Care Home Kids: Looking for Love


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Most people know me as the guy from X Factor

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who was put in this boy band called The Risk and who eventually quit.

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But I have a past. I have a story.

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And I'm more than just the guy from X Factor.

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I was put into care at the age of two

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and I stayed in care until I was an adult.

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'I was never adopted.

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'I spent my childhood moving from children's homes to foster families.

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'There are thousands of kids just like me.'

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I've had 35 addresses, but they're broken down into foster placements,

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children's homes, supported lodging placements, B&Bs...

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Do you know what any of the other guys are doing now?

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Unfortunately, two died.

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'I want to meet kids who are growing up now, just like I did,

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'with no permanent home.'

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Most people end up in jail, or they end up pregnant.

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Would you rather pay the pain of regret,

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where you spend a whole lifetime just hating your life

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and hating the fact that you didn't do anything with your life?

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It's dangerous.

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'And for the first time, I'm going to revisit my own time in care and confront my painful past.'

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I guess this place evokes a lot of ghosts and memories for me.

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Hey, how's it going, Mum?

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I think in my head, I know that I was in a bad situation.

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Mmm.

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I was put into care at the age of two.

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And I stayed in care until I was an adult.

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'I was never put up for adoption, in case my mum came back for me.

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'But she never did.'

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I lived in a foster home, then I moved to a children's home.

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Then to another foster home, then to another foster home.

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Four moves, four upheavals, four totally different worlds.

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'But despite this disruption, I did well at school and went on to study at Cambridge.'

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'Success stories for care kids are rare. I'm one of the lucky ones.

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'But even MY childhood was full of pain and disruption.'

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'One of my earliest memories is of being taken from my first foster mum, Cissy.

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'I was only four.'

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'I've always thought it was because of my own bad behaviour, but I've never known for sure.

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'So I'm going back to find out the real reason I was moved.'

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BELL RINGS

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-Ashley!

-Cissy! How's it going?

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I loved Cissy, my first foster mum,

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but I was a bit of a handful for her, I think.

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More than she'd probably like to admit.

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'I remember one day being dragged home and grabbing onto her car

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'and I pull off the windshield, cos Cissy's trying to drag me, and the police get involved.

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'I was very inconvenient to an old lady.'

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Do you remember the day I left? You were cooking macaroni and cheese.

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Mmm-hmm.

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I remember it, and then I was watching CBeebies, you know,

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the children's programmes.

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And, erm...

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Yeah, it was such a normal day.

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-And then they came in the car, through the back garden.

-Yeah.

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And you was like, "Ashley, you have to go now. Time to go now."

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-But you didn't want to leave this house.

-No, I didn't want to leave.

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And you asked me, "Where am I going, Cissy?"

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And I said, "I'm getting old now, Ashley, so they have to put you with somebody younger."

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-And you believed me.

-Yeah.

-That's the only reason why you'd go, otherwise, you wouldn't go.

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-Yeah.

-Social Service decide that he's too close to me.

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-They say you're too close to me.

-It's a bit of a stupid reason.

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-No, it's not stupid.

-Don't you think so?

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No. You see, you was young. Your mother wasn't there, just me.

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-Yeah.

-You feel that I'm the mother figure, the grandmother figure.

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So they basically thought,

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"He's becoming too close to this family, so..."

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No, no, no, no. No, that's not what they mean.

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-They mean that you should meet other people.

-Yeah.

-Outside, as well.

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Instead of just keep seeing me all the time.

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-So you mix with other boys, you talk with your friends, you know, other people.

-Yes.

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-So you was a much better person.

-Do you think so?

-Yes.

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-Mmm.

-You're still the same nice person, but you know more people.

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You know, you don't feel that you...

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-I don't know.

-You don't feel like you've got to just cling to one person.

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When I think about the average four-year-old,

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like, they want to be with who they perceive as their mum or their dad, you know.

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They stick close to their parents. They're often quite attached.

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-Surely that's natural and not something to be discouraged?

-It is natural, it is natural.

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But when the person's not your parents, I think you should mix with other people.

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That when you move out...

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I think, you know, things could have been done better.

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I felt at home.

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'Having grown very attached to Cissy,

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'Social Services took me out of the foster home where I'd settled, and moved me to a children's home.'

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Can you every get over that?

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I remember that day so vividly.

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'Over a quarter of kids in care will spend time in a children's home.

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'I was moved to Roseberry Street children's home for five years.'

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'It housed up to seven kids with backgrounds of abuse, poverty and neglect.'

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'It's now a derelict site.'

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The house was here and this garden was from here backwards,

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all around there. This was the garden, the house, the garage.

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I guess, erm, you know, this place kind of evokes a lot of ghosts and memories for me.

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'Aged eight, I was already in my second foster placement.

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'It's a familiar story.

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'Most foster kids spend their childhoods moving around.'

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'At 16, the system can start to treat you as an adult. But this doesn't mean the moving stops.'

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'Sarah's been in care since she was 14.

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'At 17, it was decided she was old enough to strike out alone.

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'Since then, she's been in three different hostels.'

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Did you ever find the freedom you had was a bit scary and daunting,

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-when you moved into your hostel?

-Yes and no.

-Yes and no?

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-At first, I loved it.

-Yeah.

-And then after, I thought, "Wow."

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Like, it's a bit weird, you know, my foster mum said, "Ring me," make sure I was all right.

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And when I didn't have that no more, it was like, "Wow, like, no-one actually cares!"

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Wow.

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Do you know what I mean?

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From all the people that I'm meeting and even from my own experience,

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you know, many care leavers, when they get to 18,

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it's like Social Services just turf them out, you know.

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They push them into the big wide world to fend by themselves.

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You're always on the edge. You're always expecting for something to happen.

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It was expected for a relationship to break down - boyfriend, girlfriend, family, friends.

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You're always expecting something. Hostel...

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You're always expecting something and you're always living on the edge.

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What you're telling me just reminds me of the devastating fact that so many people in care end up homeless.

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And can you understand why that happens?

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Yeah. I do. Because you don't have the emotional support.

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If you're being moved around all the time and you haven't got no-one to turn to,

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-then you're going to basically give up.

-Wow.

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Or, like... I don't know, most people, they end up either in jail,

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or they end up pregnant or... involved in some sort of something

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and they don't even know how they got there in the first place.

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'Often children don't know why they're being moved,

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'or where they're going.

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'And with no-one to talk to, foster care can be a lonely place to be.'

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'I'm visiting a support group called Voice,

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'which gives people who have been in care a chance to talk about what they've been through.'

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I've been in care since I was six months old. I've had 35 addresses.

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Erm...

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but they're broken down into foster placements, children's homes -

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I was in two children's homes - supported lodgings placements, B&Bs.

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Some of them places were really good, but then some of them were pretty bad.

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One lot of foster carers, they used to send me and my brother away for Christmas,

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because they said that was family time.

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So we didn't get really involved in any of their family activities.

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Never really felt like part of the family.

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When I was moving to houses, I remember moving, like, three times from when I was like 11 till 13.

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And I was thinking, "Who are these people?"

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Like, I wouldn't come downstairs to eat. For like two weeks, I would not eat.

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-I'm not surprised.

-I would stay up in my room. Like, I wouldn't even go to school.

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I was like, "No."

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Cos I would have to come downstairs and basically introduce myself to people I don't know.

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How many of you have felt that, you know, in order to live in a home

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and be successful and to stay there for a long time, it's dependent on how you behave?

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I've had, like, three placements that I've been so that if I wasn't, like, well behaved,

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or if I did this, or if I had an argument or something, I would have to move straightaway.

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But, like, when I first went there, the rules were "behave".

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My life wasn't really stable until I was 14 and moved in with, you know, who I consider Mum and Dad now.

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Like, you know, a decent set of foster carers, that they did put the effort in

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and did stick with me through all of my, like, bad behaviour.

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But until then, people just weren't resilient enough.

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They were like, "This kid's a little git. We'll just move him on."

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Know what I mean? "There's thousands of other kids in care, we'll just get another one."

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With all the kids I've met, they have one thing in common

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there's no stability.

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Scott has lived in 35 addresses, which is crazy.

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He's my age and he's moved so much, you know, during his time in care.

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It's such a crazy existence when you're moving about so much

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and I think stability,

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it needs to be implemented better for young people

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because without stability,

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you're pretty much destroyed from a young age.

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It's clear to me that kids in care are still being moved around

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all the time and I want to know why.

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I'm meeting an expert

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from the Fostering Network to find out where things are going wrong.

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On this journey, I'm realising that so many kids

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get moved about so much. I got moved four times.

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Because there's a shortage of foster carers,

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when a child or young person comes into care,

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it may mean that there's a family 60 miles away,

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which may mean they have to move schools,

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they may have to be split up from their brothers and sisters

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and have to live a long way from their family.

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Or what can happen is that a child will move from home to home

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until a suitable family is found.

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How can these moves affect young people?

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Well, if a young person is moved from family to family,

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they can feel abandoned.

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It affects their ability to form relationships.

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They may fall... End up in the kind of same relationship,

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the same pattern that they've been going through.

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So a lot of children that have been through the care system,

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their own children end up in care.

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Do you think there's a crisis in the fostering system?

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Yeah, I certainly do.

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The foster care system is bursting at the seams.

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We have huge numbers of children coming into foster care.

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Children are coming into foster care earlier.

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Local authorities are being more risk averse.

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This year alone, we need an additional 9,000 foster families

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to look after those children and to replace the ones that are leaving.

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If you speak to social workers,

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a lot will tell you that a lot of children come into care

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on a Friday night, six, seven o'clock in the evening.

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And so I've heard stories,

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and as far as I understand, it happens quite frequently,

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social workers just going through their list of foster carers,

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phoning them up and saying,

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"Have you got a bed for the night to look after this young person?"

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There is a lot of stigma attached to being in foster care

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and actually, although you hear a lot of celebrities

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talking about being adopted, you hear very few celebrities,

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well-known people, talking about growing up in the care system.

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There are problems,

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there are difficulties, but it's not something to be ashamed of.

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My last foster placement was one of my happiest.

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Freesia and Irvin made me feel welcome

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and part of their family.

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I'm grateful they took me in,

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but I've never asked them what it's like

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to be a foster parent.

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Those are bits and pieces.

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What was I like when I first came?

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He was quiet and, um...

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Yeah, he was polite.

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He wanted to make a really good impression, and you did, actually.

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It took him about a week to settle in and then...

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THEY LAUGH

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For the first week, he was neat, he was tidy.

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He'd washed up his cups and plates.

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I remember cos the foster carer before,

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I mean, I nearly got kicked out at one point

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cos I didn't wash my cups up.

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I mean, sometimes your... your position as a foster child

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is that, you know, fragile that if you do something wrong,

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you're kicked out because the foster carer can't handle it.

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So I certainly... But I felt comfortable here so quickly.

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I realised that I didn't have to...

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-You didn't have to perform.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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Yeah. Then I missed performing so I'll dish up today.

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THEY LAUGH

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-You go on. You take yours.

-You already had one of these ones?

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Foster caring, from our point of view,

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I believe it should be a job, yeah? And it should be viewed as a job

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because the emphasis is all about the children,

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which rightly so, but it also needs

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to have some emphasis about the carers

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and I think that if they have more emphasis on the carers,

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also, you'll get, you encourage more people.

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-There is a shortage of carers. Why is there a shortage of carers?

-Yeah.

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Why doesn't people want to open their homes

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and allow a child to come in?

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Why do you think that is?

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I just think that, um...

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I just think it should be deemed as a job.

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See, I've always thought

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that foster parenting shouldn't be a job,

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but I see what you're saying.

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If the foster parent is doing a good job,

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I won't see you as doing a job, and I think often,

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foster carers can have a quite blase, indifferent attitude towards it

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and so they don't handle the responsibility as well as they could.

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They don't take the training as seriously.

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So that's good food for thought.

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Mm. It's something to think about

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because if you look at it from our point of view, um...

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we still have to live, we still have to have a roof over your head,

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we've still got bills to pay.

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And I don't really like to bring it down to money

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cos it's more than money.

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It's a vocation and if you're called to be a foster carer

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you do it wholeheartedly, yeah? Because you want to do it.

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It's not something you can just go into it

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because you think it's a good idea cos you won't last the course.

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I've asked loads of people, "Would you do fostering?"

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They've said, "No." And these are nice people,

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but they've said, "No, I couldn't." I said, "Why's that?"

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They said, "I couldn't just open my home to a stranger."

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Well, you know. So it is a calling. It's definitely...

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It's not for everybody.

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It's not something you go, "Oh, I'm just going to do it."

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Not only that, actually, before...

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OK, it's a calling, but apart from just a calling,

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when you actually go for the training, it's very, very difficult.

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It is very, very intrusive. On our course,

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-we probably had... 20 people.

-Mm.

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-And how many got through? Five?

-Really?

-Yeah.

-Wow.

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I've never, ever thought of fostering in terms of being a job,

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but it does make some sense

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because these guys, they're trained for the role.

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They can't treat me, you know, fully like their biological children

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cos there are, you know, rules and guidelines

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which they have to abide by.

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And so they are consciously trying to uphold a certain role

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and so I can understand that, for them, it's a job.

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But when they are doing it as a job, if they're doing a good job,

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I'm not aware that it's a job. I see them as family.

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My time with Freesia and Irvin took me through

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a crucial stage at school. While I was with them, I did well

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in important exams and ended up going to uni.

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But when you're a child struggling with upheavals,

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I know that school can be the last place you want to be.

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-Hello. How're you doing?

-Hi. I'm Kay.

-My name's Ashley.

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-Hold the door. Hello. Good to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

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15-year-old Shannon has been in a children's home for nine months.

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In spite of the home's best efforts,

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she is refusing to go to school and I wanted to see if I could help.

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How long haven't you gone to school for?

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About...six months.

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I was in a children's home.

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Most of the guys I lived with didn't go to school,

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but I was always pushed to go to school...

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and I went to uni.

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I've got a really good degree and, you know, it gives me options now.

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Yeah.

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But there are people who I lived with who didn't go to school

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and they have no options and their, you know,

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their alternative is 50 quid a week Jobseekers Allowance

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and a flat and...it's just,

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it's a horrible existence.

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Like, when people don't go school,

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or they don't care about their education,

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I mean, that's a dangerous place to be in...

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especially as a foster child,

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or someone who lives in a children's home.

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It's dangerous.

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If you don't go school, it's only going to affect you.

0:18:340:18:38

Or would you rather pay the pain of regret

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where you spend the whole lifetime just hating your life

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and hating the fact that you didn't do anything with your life?

0:18:440:18:47

-Doing something about it.

-Exactly.

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I think my past has a lot to play for what I do at the moment.

0:18:490:18:54

I always go back to what had happened

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instead of saying, "That has happened."

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But I don't do that.

0:19:010:19:04

As foster children... we have this thing

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that nobody cares about us, right?

0:19:070:19:09

We often think that and I know that I did at times,

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but...you can care about yourself, even if no-one else does.

0:19:120:19:17

Please don't waste your time.

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Sorry to sound like really...

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Please, man.

0:19:220:19:24

I think what you've just said there has got more power

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than what we've been saying to her for the last six months.

0:19:260:19:30

I think you might've just got through to her.

0:19:300:19:32

No-one's really spoken to me like... that sort of way before.

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So...

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Children in care are ten times more likely to get excluded from school.

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And my early reports show I was heading in that direction.

0:19:520:19:56

"Recently Ashley was one of a group of boys who were involved

0:19:590:20:02

"in what can only be described as an act of vandalism.

0:20:020:20:05

"The estimate for their damage is £135."

0:20:050:20:09

I remember very clearly that I got kicked out of my primary school.

0:20:090:20:13

I got expelled for, basically, accidentally kicking my head teacher in the nose.

0:20:130:20:19

The head teacher's holding me and I release my foot

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and I kick him in the nose and give him a nosebleed.

0:20:220:20:25

So, um, I was just, I was just...

0:20:250:20:29

When I was young, extremely angry, rebellious, looking for attention

0:20:290:20:34

and I'm just glad that that didn't, you know,

0:20:340:20:37

carry on into my teen, my late teenage years.

0:20:370:20:40

You know, this behaviour is the making of a criminal.

0:20:400:20:43

This behaviour is the making of someone who doesn't get a good education.

0:20:430:20:48

This behaviour is the making of someone who...you know,

0:20:480:20:52

could end up in prison, to be frank.

0:20:520:20:54

Plenty of the kids I've grown up with eventually turn to crime, drugs

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and ended up in prison.

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Over a quarter of people currently in prison

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were in care as a child.

0:21:080:21:10

'I'm meeting 22-year-old Jerome, who grew up with his brother in care...'

0:21:120:21:16

This is where the magic happens.

0:21:160:21:18

'..but his brother is now in prison.'

0:21:180:21:20

Well, this is my brother's album,

0:21:210:21:24

but we've both got pictures together, kind of thing.

0:21:240:21:26

But I just... This is like a little storyboard. So when I was four,

0:21:260:21:30

-and that's my mum there.

-Is that your mum?

0:21:300:21:32

-That's my brother and my sister.

-That is so similar to my mum.

0:21:320:21:36

-Is it?

-Yeah.

0:21:360:21:37

Jerome's mum had various difficulties and struggled

0:21:370:21:41

to look after the kids, so they were taken into care.

0:21:410:21:45

He's taken me to see the childhood home

0:21:480:21:50

where he lived with his mum and brother.

0:21:500:21:52

I don't really like to be around here because it's not the best memories.

0:21:520:21:56

Can you actually point the building that you lived in?

0:21:560:21:58

It's this one here. If we go through here...

0:21:580:22:02

This doesn't look too much different

0:22:020:22:04

from when I was a little kid, you know.

0:22:040:22:07

Obviously, I had mad memories here, you know.

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So it's like, I don't know.

0:22:100:22:12

A lot of it's to do with pain, kind of thing.

0:22:120:22:15

So you don't really want to remember it, but you kind of use it.

0:22:150:22:18

Now I just use it.

0:22:180:22:20

Round the corner, my friend used to live.

0:22:200:22:23

He was in care as well, but he killed himself.

0:22:230:22:25

So this, I ain't really got too much good memories around,

0:22:250:22:28

but for him, it's like emotionally, you could've given him everything,

0:22:280:22:32

but if you didn't deal with what was deep inside him,

0:22:320:22:35

you lost him already. So... I think he just couldn't hack it really.

0:22:350:22:40

What do you remember of leaving this house?

0:22:410:22:44

I remember being at nursery

0:22:440:22:46

and then me and my brother, they're telling us,

0:22:460:22:48

"Your mum's ill. You can't go back home."

0:22:480:22:50

And we was just like, "Huh?!"

0:22:500:22:52

-Next you know, in care watching Tom and Jerry on the sofa.

-That's mental.

0:22:520:22:56

And it's weird cos like, when you're four,

0:22:560:22:58

you think you wouldn't remember it, but you remember that day.

0:22:580:23:01

Like, I remember it clearly.

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After eight years in one foster home,

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Jerome and his brother were eventually split up.

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Whilst Jerome stayed in a stable home,

0:23:130:23:15

his brother was shunted around the system.

0:23:150:23:19

He went missing at 14,

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was placed in a secure unit

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and is now in jail.

0:23:230:23:25

The more you move them, the more you scar them because it's like,

0:23:250:23:28

you're just letting me know I'm a kid in care

0:23:280:23:31

and more people don't care about me.

0:23:310:23:34

It was easier to let him run riot and do what he's doing

0:23:340:23:36

than to actually say, "We're going to help this kid

0:23:360:23:39

"and help him get out of the situation he's in now, or whatever he's going through."

0:23:390:23:44

Rather than... Cos it's more work. It takes more, it costs more money.

0:23:440:23:48

so it's like to me, the care system is about, you know, caring.

0:23:480:23:52

But when you ask the kids,

0:23:520:23:55

"OK, what do you want?"

0:23:550:23:56

They simple things like,

0:23:560:23:58

"I want my foster carer to give me a hug,"

0:23:580:24:00

or, "I want my carer to call me when I've had an exam,"

0:24:000:24:02

or, "My social worker to call me when I've finished playing football,"

0:24:020:24:07

or, "I've done this show. Come to my show."

0:24:070:24:09

They're the simple things and none of that costs money.

0:24:090:24:12

It's all about just being there for someone,

0:24:120:24:14

and this is where we're losing track, I guess.

0:24:140:24:16

Have you ever blamed yourself?

0:24:180:24:21

If I could take back time, I'd say I would've moved on

0:24:210:24:24

with him so that we're together.

0:24:240:24:26

Then no matter what, then we go through it together.

0:24:260:24:29

I was looking at his pictures.

0:24:320:24:33

I was looking at the cherished childhood memories,

0:24:330:24:36

how happy they seemed. That's great,

0:24:360:24:38

but that's just been...

0:24:380:24:40

That gets torn up when you separate that, when you kill that.

0:24:400:24:43

I'm glad that I didn't have to go through separation.

0:24:430:24:47

I really hope that obviously when he comes out he's just...

0:24:470:24:50

more on this kind of, "I want to do better for myself."

0:24:500:24:54

He's very smart. Very smart guy.

0:24:540:24:57

I think sometimes, the way he handles certain situations,

0:24:570:25:01

he needs to be smarter.

0:25:010:25:02

-Take care, man.

-All good, man.

-Pleasure.

0:25:020:25:04

-All the best.

-Yeah, man, keep it up, mate.

0:25:040:25:06

'It's clear to me that being moved around the care system

0:25:180:25:22

'can cause lasting damage.'

0:25:220:25:25

The truth is, many foster kids are not OK.

0:25:250:25:29

Many foster kids my age and older

0:25:290:25:32

are still battling with the demons of when they were five years old.

0:25:320:25:35

If you're a foster kid who has had to kind of accept that,

0:25:380:25:42

for whatever reason, your parents don't want to look after you,

0:25:420:25:47

that's rejection. Looking back at my life,

0:25:470:25:50

there were certainly times where I acted from that feeling.

0:25:500:25:53

I can see the subconscious patterns in my thinking,

0:25:530:25:56

when I was younger, when I look back.

0:25:560:25:59

And I clearly operated out of rejection

0:25:590:26:02

and wanting attention and wanting approval and wanting love.

0:26:020:26:05

'I've just found out that, after just a few weeks,

0:26:160:26:20

'Sarah has to change hostels again.

0:26:200:26:22

'Tonight, she's moving her things across town to a new place in Soho.'

0:26:220:26:27

-Don't you have bags for all of this?

-No, listen...

-You've a blue bag.

0:26:280:26:32

They made me move in bin bags.

0:26:320:26:34

SHE SIGHS My days!

0:26:400:26:43

-Is there any more stuff upstairs?

-Yes.

0:26:510:26:54

-Are you used to things ending badly like this?

-Yeah.

0:26:590:27:03

Well, my life, I'll be honest with you, this is as good as my life gets.

0:27:030:27:07

-Placement and displacement...

-I beg to differ there, beg to differ.

0:27:070:27:11

-But I hope...

-Come on.

-..fingers crossed, this is the last one.

0:27:110:27:14

-You're like...

-Fingers crossed.

0:27:140:27:16

As much as you can be moved, you're at college,

0:27:160:27:18

doing your advertising, you can go to uni, get a student loan,

0:27:180:27:21

you can get a good career in graphics, build some good...

0:27:210:27:24

It's not, I mean...

0:27:240:27:26

-It's not the end of the world, yeah.

-It's very limiting to say this is the best it'll get for you.

0:27:260:27:30

No, when I say it's the best it'll get for me, I mean I'm sick and tired of moving.

0:27:300:27:34

-Yeah, of course.

-Like, I'm sick and tired of moving.

0:27:340:27:36

I would hate to be moving out in this area.

0:27:550:27:58

Obviously, it's tough

0:27:580:28:00

and there's a lot of things that I probably can't relate to,

0:28:000:28:03

-so I'm not going to pretend to know the struggle the way you do.

-Yeah.

0:28:030:28:07

But don't let the emotion and the difficulties cloud your judgement.

0:28:070:28:11

You've got to be strategic. Step one, you've gotta fix up your home.

0:28:110:28:17

You've gotta make sure you're on top of your college work. You'll be OK.

0:28:170:28:21

-Let's get some food.

-All right. HE LAUGHS

0:28:210:28:25

'It was nice having the support, like someone that doesn't know me

0:28:250:28:29

'to, like, carry my bags for me. It was nice of him.'

0:28:290:28:32

It makes you feel like I'm not alone and he come out the other end,

0:28:320:28:36

and he's been through the care experience,

0:28:360:28:38

so I'm hoping to come out the other end.

0:28:380:28:41

SHE LAUGHS One day!

0:28:410:28:43

She just had to move into this home today.

0:28:430:28:45

She's 18, she's a young girl, you know, in the middle of London.

0:28:450:28:49

Um, I hope she's safe and makes the right choices.

0:28:490:28:52

Someone who helped me make the right choices when I was younger

0:28:590:29:02

was my key worker, a man called Lyndon,

0:29:020:29:05

who refused to give up on me.

0:29:050:29:08

'Over the years, I have lost all contact with Lyndon,

0:29:090:29:13

'but I've managed to track him down.'

0:29:130:29:15

DOORBELL RINGS

0:29:160:29:18

-Lyndon!

-Hey!

-How's it going, man? Nice to see you.

-You too!

-Good.

0:29:190:29:24

'Lyndon has worked in care for 22 years and is now a social worker.'

0:29:240:29:29

-I'm fine, thank you, I'm fine.

-It's so good to see you.

-Yeah! Come in, man, come in.

-Sure.

0:29:290:29:33

-Come in.

-It's my first time being in your house.

-Yes, I know, I know.

0:29:330:29:38

From your experience, do you find that

0:29:380:29:41

the kids who have been to school are more likely to have a better future?

0:29:410:29:45

-Yes.

-Really?

-Yes, yes.

0:29:450:29:47

Because those who have gone to school

0:29:470:29:49

are going to school because they want to,

0:29:490:29:51

-and they value education. They have a goal, you know?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:29:510:29:55

So yes, they will succeed.

0:29:550:29:58

Do you know what any of the other guys are doing now?

0:29:580:30:01

Unfortunately, two died, um...

0:30:010:30:05

-And one...

-How did they die?

-One was stabbed in North London...

-Mm-hm.

0:30:050:30:09

..and, um, the other one,

0:30:090:30:11

he died because they were going to deport him.

0:30:110:30:14

-They were going to deport him, so he died?

-Mm-hm.

0:30:150:30:18

Well, he took his own life, which was really sad.

0:30:180:30:21

You know, very sad.

0:30:230:30:25

And then, there was the, er...another youngster

0:30:250:30:29

who's doing, um, life in prison now.

0:30:290:30:32

Um, shooting somebody, you know.

0:30:320:30:35

And, um, like yourself, he was... he was very bright as well.

0:30:350:30:40

I liked that boy quite a lot, you know,

0:30:400:30:44

and I couldn't see him being, um...being a gangster.

0:30:440:30:48

Um, I guess the key thing I need to tell you is that, you know,

0:30:490:30:55

your role in my life was so invaluable and I'm totally grateful for...

0:30:550:31:00

Like you probably don't realise how much you've helped me.

0:31:000:31:02

You've been amazing, Lyndon, amazing.

0:31:020:31:05

And just to get out of bed, go to school, that's why I'm here now,

0:31:050:31:11

that's why I managed to, you know, go to uni,

0:31:110:31:14

because you gave me that foundation of school and education and, um...

0:31:140:31:20

-Yeah, you were fantastic.

-Cheers.

0:31:200:31:22

You have, um, triumphed in the face of adversity, I must say that.

0:31:220:31:27

You have indeed. And it's amazing.

0:31:270:31:31

I feel honoured, actually, I feel honoured. Come on, give us a hug.

0:31:310:31:34

-I feel honoured.

-Thank you.

0:31:340:31:35

-To think of me so...so much.

-Definitely.

-I'm glad I played a pivotal part in your life.

0:31:350:31:40

-Keep on doing the good work, you know.

-I will, I will, thank you.

0:31:400:31:44

-Thanks.

-OK, mate, yes, yes. So good seeing you.

0:31:440:31:47

'Fostering is normally a temporary arrangement,

0:31:520:31:55

'a short-term solution that can stop or change at any time.

0:31:550:32:00

'I'm visiting a foster family attempting to make their situation more stable and permanent.

0:32:010:32:07

'13-year-old Vicky has lived with Pat and Jason for the last four years,

0:32:090:32:14

'and they're hoping it can last much longer.

0:32:140:32:16

'Vicky was taken into care due to neglect,

0:32:190:32:22

'the most common reason for kids to be taken from their parents.'

0:32:220:32:26

What was it like getting new parents?

0:32:260:32:28

-You feel really lucky after a while, because...

-Yeah.

0:32:280:32:31

..if I was still at home, there could've been some problems that couldn't have been solved.

0:32:310:32:36

-Yeah.

-And now, all of my worries get solved really quickly.

0:32:360:32:39

-That's amazing.

-And there's nothing I worry about.

0:32:390:32:41

-Aw, that's so good.

-Yeah.

-That's so good.

0:32:410:32:44

I'm so happy for you, Vicky, seriously.

0:32:440:32:46

-I only worry about first days of school and like...

-Normal things.

0:32:460:32:50

Yeah, normal things. I don't think...

0:32:500:32:52

-I'm the same as every other child.

-Yeah.

0:32:520:32:55

-I'm just, obviously, not with my real mum and dad.

-Yeah.

-That's fine with me.

0:32:550:32:59

Could you imagine life without them?

0:32:590:33:01

Not now, no.

0:33:010:33:03

But they've brought me up really like...

0:33:030:33:06

When I first came, I just didn't want to communicate with them

0:33:060:33:10

and I just didn't want to be there, because I was too scared,

0:33:100:33:13

if I was to do something wrong, I'm gone, but they said that, um,

0:33:130:33:16

I'm obviously doing the right thing

0:33:160:33:17

-and I'm being brave sort of thing.

-That's so cool.

-It's good, yeah.

0:33:170:33:21

'Vicky's lucky to have been placed with such devoted foster parents.'

0:33:220:33:27

People say about doing it just for the money, but you couldn't,

0:33:270:33:29

because, um, you couldn't have someone 24/7 for four years

0:33:290:33:34

and not get on with them and not want them to live with you

0:33:340:33:36

for all the money in the world, cos it would drive you up...

0:33:360:33:39

So you do actually open your heart up and, you know,

0:33:390:33:43

-you doors are open all the time and...

-Yeah.

0:33:430:33:45

..you just really get into it, like they are your own child, really.

0:33:450:33:49

'When I look at Pat and I look at Jason,'

0:33:490:33:52

this is what I've wanted, you know.

0:33:520:33:56

I've just wanted a family.

0:33:560:33:58

I just wanted, you know, a home to call my own.

0:33:580:34:02

'As foster kids can be moved any time, Pat and Jason have applied

0:34:030:34:07

'to become Vicky's permanent foster parents.

0:34:070:34:09

'An arrangement that means she could stay with them well into adulthood.

0:34:090:34:13

'It's a decision that can only be made by her local authority

0:34:150:34:19

'and, in two weeks time, they'll meet to decide Vicky's future.'

0:34:190:34:23

I would really love to live here until I'm an adult,

0:34:230:34:26

because it would make, like, me happy,

0:34:260:34:29

because now I've got used to them, they're like there for me.

0:34:290:34:34

I don't need anyone else any more.

0:34:340:34:36

'Vicky has a real chance of long-term happiness.

0:34:470:34:50

'But having a say in who you live with is rare in care.

0:34:510:34:54

'Not all my foster placements were happy ones.

0:34:560:34:59

'At one point, I was placed with a family

0:34:590:35:01

'where I didn't always feel wanted.

0:35:010:35:03

'And I know that, when a child feels rejected,

0:35:030:35:06

'that's when the problems start.'

0:35:060:35:08

Being back in this neighbourhood reminds me of a time

0:35:080:35:12

where I wasn't, you know, fully myself, fully happy.

0:35:120:35:16

I guess walking under a shadow of rejection, walking under this,

0:35:160:35:21

you know, shadow of alienation and not feeling accepted.

0:35:210:35:25

I certainly experienced that a lot here

0:35:250:35:28

and I know many foster children can relate to that.

0:35:280:35:31

I remember I had three friends from the area

0:35:310:35:34

who I actually began to do shoplifting with one summer and, um,

0:35:340:35:40

I can certainly see how bad foster homes lead to bad behaviour

0:35:400:35:43

and it can also lead you into the justice system.

0:35:430:35:46

'Aged 13, I found the one thing that probably kept me from crime

0:35:540:35:58

'and offered me some stability.'

0:35:580:36:01

I went to go shopping on a Friday evening

0:36:010:36:05

and I saw a guy getting a piggyback with his dad

0:36:050:36:10

and, um, that just, like, it really hurt me,

0:36:100:36:13

like, seeing that and knowing that I didn't have that.

0:36:130:36:16

'I went home and I prayed, you know, to Jesus that he would be my dad

0:36:180:36:23

'and, because I saw so many examples of failed foster lives,

0:36:230:36:27

'I prayed that he would raise me in a way whereby I wouldn't be

0:36:270:36:31

'that foster kid who went to prison and didn't have a good education.

0:36:310:36:36

'And I think that's why I'm where I am, because...

0:36:360:36:39

'God has been my father, you know.'

0:36:390:36:42

Obviously, some people think, "This guy's nuts!"

0:36:420:36:45

But I'm totally rational, but I just believe that people need hope.

0:36:450:36:49

I believe that people need belief

0:36:490:36:50

and it's more than statistics and bureaucratic help,

0:36:500:36:54

it's more than money that's going to improve the lives of foster kids.

0:36:540:36:58

It's people that believe in them

0:36:580:37:00

and really feel that they have a purpose and a potential.

0:37:000:37:02

'Many foster kids live under this shadow that they're a mistake

0:37:040:37:08

'and, when they feel like they're the mistake,

0:37:080:37:11

'they feel like they don't have purpose.

0:37:110:37:13

'They feel like they can't function like normal people.'

0:37:130:37:16

You know, I don't believe that.

0:37:160:37:18

I don't live with those shadows no more, so I thank God for that.

0:37:180:37:23

It's now two weeks since Sarah had to move hostels

0:37:340:37:38

and I've been worried that yet another upheaval

0:37:380:37:41

may have hit her confidence in herself and her education.

0:37:410:37:44

-Hey, how's it going?

-Hi.

-So this is your new room?

-Yeah.

0:37:440:37:49

This is the hostel. This is nice.

0:37:490:37:52

This is nice. So you've got all your posters up?

0:37:520:37:54

How's it going in the new hostel?

0:37:540:37:58

-Um, overall, everything's all right.

-Yeah.

-Like...

0:37:580:38:02

But I'm still going to complain about the size of it.

0:38:020:38:04

-What's wrong with the size?

-It's really small.

0:38:040:38:07

-Is it really small?

-Yeah. I feel like I'm in a box.

-Do you?

0:38:070:38:10

-So does it feel like home?

-No.

0:38:100:38:13

-I just come here to sleep, really.

-Yeah.

0:38:130:38:15

Like I'm always out and about doing stuff.

0:38:150:38:18

You know, a few weeks ago, you was in college

0:38:180:38:21

and, you know, you was doing really well.

0:38:210:38:23

Now you've moved into the hostel, are you still studying?

0:38:230:38:26

-Yeah, I still go to college.

-Yeah.

-Like my attendance has even improved.

0:38:260:38:30

-It's improved?

-Yeah.

-Wow.

0:38:300:38:32

I know that moving into, um, a hostel can be quite traumatic

0:38:320:38:37

and it can disrupt everything. How has it affected your life?

0:38:370:38:41

It hasn't really affected me this time,

0:38:410:38:45

-cos like, I was more prepared.

-Hmm.

0:38:450:38:47

Like I'm not saying I thought, "Oh, yeah, everything's cool."

0:38:470:38:50

No, it was hard, like, settling in, but I had help from my friend.

0:38:500:38:54

One thing that I'll say to people, like you can't change your past,

0:38:540:38:57

but you can change your future. And, you know, at the end of the day,

0:38:570:39:01

what happened has happened and you just try and move on from it.

0:39:010:39:04

I don't want to be in the system no more.

0:39:040:39:06

I don't want to be in, like, the care system.

0:39:060:39:08

I don't want to be in no benefit system.

0:39:080:39:10

I don't want to be in, like, no system.

0:39:100:39:13

-I just want to, like, do me.

-And how will you do you?

0:39:130:39:17

Obviously, if I have a good education, then I can obviously get a good job.

0:39:170:39:21

-Yeah.

-And, obviously, with a good job comes money.

0:39:210:39:24

-Yeah.

-So I won't be in the system any longer.

0:39:240:39:27

Sarah, I just want to wish you the best of luck

0:39:280:39:30

and thank you so much for allowing me to come into your life

0:39:300:39:34

and to intrude, you know.

0:39:340:39:36

It's such a pleasure and I've learned so much from you

0:39:360:39:39

and, you know, I'm sure you're going to be OK.

0:39:390:39:41

For the first time since I met Sarah,

0:39:460:39:48

she sounds positive about her future,

0:39:480:39:51

like she's finally in control of her life.

0:39:510:39:53

Something I realised from a young age is that

0:39:540:39:58

you're responsible for your future and for your happiness.

0:39:580:40:01

And whilst you have a lack in relationships and, you know,

0:40:010:40:04

the perfect sort of environment,

0:40:040:40:06

you can pull your socks up, you can move forward, you can say, you know,

0:40:060:40:10

"I'm going to make tomorrow better."

0:40:100:40:12

'Two weeks after first meeting Vicky,

0:40:220:40:26

'I'm here to see her again on a day that's crucial to her future.

0:40:260:40:30

'Today she'll find out whether she's going to be allowed to spend

0:40:320:40:36

'the rest of her childhood with her foster parents Pat and Jason.'

0:40:360:40:40

Hi, this is Vicky and Pat and Jason, everybody, and Ashley.

0:40:530:40:56

Come on in, Vicky. If you want to sit there by the bottle, OK?

0:40:560:41:00

We'll put Pat on one side, Jason on the other.

0:41:000:41:03

Ashley, if you wouldn't mind sitting there.

0:41:030:41:06

OK? Thank you. And welcome to panel.

0:41:060:41:09

The reason we're here, I think you know.

0:41:130:41:16

We are being asked to make a recommendation to the council about

0:41:160:41:21

whether you can stay, for the rest of your growing-up, with Pat and Jason.

0:41:210:41:26

Do you want to stay?

0:41:260:41:28

-Yes.

-Yes? Absolutely.

-Yes.

-Till you're 18?

-Yes.

0:41:280:41:33

-23? 27?

-Don't think we're getting rid of her till she's about 40!

0:41:330:41:38

LAUGHTER

0:41:380:41:39

At this point, do you feel like part of the family? You do.

0:41:390:41:42

-So you want to be with them till you've grown up?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

0:41:420:41:46

We're going to ask Pat and Jason some questions now, OK?

0:41:460:41:48

So are you going to go and wait outside?

0:41:480:41:50

Christine will come with you and Ashley as well, all right?

0:41:500:41:53

-OK.

-See you in a little while.

-See you in a little while.

0:41:530:41:57

-You're only in the room next door.

-Yes. Thank you.

0:41:570:41:59

Why does this matter?

0:42:040:42:05

Because then I'll feel more like their child, sort of thing.

0:42:070:42:10

Cos I don't like the name foster child, sort of thing.

0:42:100:42:13

-It annoys me.

-Hmm.

-When people find out, it's like "foster child".

-Yeah.

0:42:130:42:18

I don't like that.

0:42:180:42:19

I'd rather be called their child, sort of thing.

0:42:210:42:23

-I know I'm not theirs but...sort of.

-Well, I guess you will be.

0:42:230:42:27

When I came down to visit you,

0:42:270:42:30

um...it was really clear that you were a part of the family.

0:42:300:42:33

So I guess this...this will clearly just confirm, hopefully,

0:42:330:42:40

what's already true.

0:42:400:42:42

It'll be an injustice

0:42:420:42:43

if Vicky wasn't able to live with this family, you know?

0:42:430:42:47

I really hope they make the right decision.

0:42:470:42:49

I really hope they make the right decision.

0:42:490:42:51

-I've got butterflies now.

-You've got butterflies?

-Yeah.

0:42:510:42:56

-How about you guys?

-Um...a little bit. A little bit nervous.

-Really?

0:42:560:43:01

-Hiya!

-Hiya.

-Hi.

0:43:040:43:05

Sorry you had to wait a little while

0:43:070:43:09

but panel had a bit of chatting to do

0:43:090:43:11

because we just wanted to be sure

0:43:110:43:14

that we were thinking everything through properly.

0:43:140:43:17

And we were wanting to make sure that this recommendation

0:43:170:43:21

is a recommendation that will last until you are grown up.

0:43:210:43:24

So you can't move around any more - that you're stuck with them.

0:43:240:43:29

-Um-hm? And...what do you want us to have said?

-Yes.

0:43:290:43:33

Well, you'll be glad to know that actually the panel have recommended.

0:43:330:43:37

-Woo!

-Yay!

0:43:370:43:38

ASHLEY APPLAUDS

0:43:380:43:39

So you can stay. You can give her a hug, you know!

0:43:390:43:42

Yeah!

0:43:440:43:45

-Well done.

-Good girl.

-That's it!

0:43:470:43:50

You can stay with Pat and Jason

0:43:500:43:52

and you can stay with them until it's time to move on as an adult.

0:43:520:43:57

OK? Well done.

0:43:570:43:58

It was much easier today because we knew what you wanted. Yeah?

0:43:580:44:02

It's much, much easier. Yes?

0:44:020:44:05

-Vicky, how are you feeling?

-Really happy.

0:44:070:44:11

I'm so excited for your future.

0:44:110:44:14

I'm genuinely proud and I believe in you guys

0:44:140:44:16

and I look forward to the future. You guys are going to be great.

0:44:160:44:19

Huddle! Well done, guys.

0:44:190:44:22

Right. Well, Ashley, it's been lovely meeting you.

0:44:220:44:24

-It's been such a pleasure.

-We're off now to celebrate.

0:44:240:44:27

-Oh, guys, I'm so happy. So happy.

-See you again soon.

-Yes, congrats.

0:44:270:44:31

'Nothing is more satisfying than seeing what just happened there.'

0:44:350:44:38

It makes me excited about the future of fostering and it can work.

0:44:400:44:44

It can be successful, you know?

0:44:440:44:46

It can make a positive difference.

0:44:460:44:49

'The system has worked for Vicky

0:44:570:45:00

'and this will hopefully be the end of her journey through care.

0:45:000:45:03

'But not everyone escapes the care system so easily.

0:45:030:45:07

'And often history repeats itself.'

0:45:070:45:09

Many kids who grow up in care, who have children,

0:45:100:45:14

see their kids end up in care.

0:45:140:45:16

And it makes me think, why is that so?

0:45:160:45:20

It's clear that the system is not effective

0:45:200:45:24

in creating a new standard of living

0:45:240:45:26

and...making people more mobile

0:45:260:45:29

and allowing them to kind of move away from their past.

0:45:290:45:32

It seems they go full circle

0:45:320:45:33

and the kids they have end up in the same predicament as them.

0:45:330:45:37

'17-year-old Leanne was in care when her own baby was born.

0:45:410:45:45

'She needs all the support she can get

0:45:450:45:48

'to make sure that vicious cycle doesn't continue.

0:45:480:45:52

'So she and daughter Ruby have been put in a mother-and-baby unit

0:45:520:45:56

'to try and keep them together and give them the best start in life.'

0:45:560:46:00

She's smiling at me.

0:46:020:46:03

-Hello!

-Hi!

0:46:060:46:10

Do you want to feed her?

0:46:100:46:12

'Leanne's own mother regularly visits

0:46:120:46:14

'and after three years living apart, they're now rebuilding

0:46:140:46:17

'the relationship that broke down when Leanne became a teenager.'

0:46:170:46:21

Hello, my beautiful! Hey?

0:46:210:46:23

-Hey?!

-What was the climax when you want into care?

0:46:230:46:27

-Was it a fight or...?

-No, it was me.

0:46:270:46:31

I just lost...lost it in a meeting with social services

0:46:310:46:35

-and I just said, "Take over. I can't have her home any more."

-Yes.

0:46:350:46:39

I didn't know where she was

0:46:390:46:41

and this was weekend after weekend after weekend.

0:46:410:46:44

You know, she was bunking off school, um...you know.

0:46:460:46:51

I just went to the end of my tether and I said,

0:46:510:46:53

"No, please take over now. I'm not having her home. End of."

0:46:530:46:57

That's a pretty brave decision.

0:46:570:46:59

It was the hardest decision I've ever made in my life.

0:46:590:47:02

Now, in hindsight, it was the best thing I did for her.

0:47:020:47:06

It's actually helped me. Made me a better person, you know.

0:47:060:47:09

I think being away from my mum done me good cos we get along better

0:47:090:47:12

when we're not living under the same roof.

0:47:120:47:14

And that's when I started feeling, you know, foster care is not bad

0:47:140:47:18

and, to be honest, I looked at them like my mum and dad.

0:47:180:47:21

They had another kid living there, like, their own kid.

0:47:210:47:24

And the way I saw them with their daughter,

0:47:240:47:27

because she had a baby and all,

0:47:270:47:29

I just thought, you know, "Why can't me and my mum be like that?

0:47:290:47:33

"Why has stuff got to ruin it for us?"

0:47:330:47:35

We were good friends. It died. But we're getting it back.

0:47:350:47:39

Just believe and trust.

0:47:420:47:44

Hmm?

0:47:460:47:47

I want her to have a lot better.

0:47:470:47:49

I've sort of erased that part of my life now.

0:47:490:47:52

I'm looking at the future and that's her there, you know?

0:47:520:47:54

-She's my little angel and I wouldn't change her for the world.

-Yes.

0:47:540:47:58

I'm not going to wish she wasn't here

0:47:580:48:00

but I wish I'd waited and got a job behind me

0:48:000:48:02

and had my own place and not been a benefit mum.

0:48:020:48:06

-I've got a perfect little daughter.

-She's beautiful.

0:48:060:48:09

You know, she's been the making of me

0:48:090:48:11

and I'm never, ever going to let her witness

0:48:110:48:13

anything that I've been through.

0:48:130:48:14

-Yeah...

-Yeah, I'm not. I know.

0:48:140:48:18

She wants to have her say now.

0:48:180:48:20

'Leanne and her mum clearly love this child.'

0:48:200:48:23

I think she's got two mothers.

0:48:250:48:27

Um...and that just gives me confidence

0:48:270:48:30

to know that Ruby's going to be OK.

0:48:300:48:33

Sorry, boobs.

0:48:350:48:37

Your daughter's changed your life.

0:48:390:48:42

And literally who you are.

0:48:420:48:45

There's a lot to be proud of.

0:48:460:48:49

'Seeing Leanne with her mum has made me wonder about my own mum.

0:48:490:48:52

'She didn't receive the support she needed.

0:48:530:48:56

'If she had, maybe things would have been different.

0:48:560:49:00

'I've discovered that, like Leanne, she had me when she was just 17

0:49:020:49:08

'and had previously spent her childhood in care.'

0:49:080:49:11

Do you know what? I never blamed my mum.

0:49:120:49:14

And I say that genuinely, and I always had an understanding

0:49:140:49:18

that she didn't have it easy.

0:49:180:49:20

Cissy, my foster mum, my first foster mum,

0:49:200:49:23

always explained to me that you need to love your mum.

0:49:230:49:27

You need to honour your mum.

0:49:270:49:29

You know, as a foster child, you have to be able to forgive,

0:49:290:49:32

and I kind of had that mentality

0:49:320:49:34

that there's no point, like, hating her.

0:49:340:49:37

Over the years, we've been trying to rebuild our relationship.

0:49:460:49:49

It's Mother's Day, and also my biological mum's birthday.

0:49:510:49:55

I'm travelling to Manchester where she's finally settled

0:49:550:49:58

and started a new family.

0:49:580:50:00

Ruby, how's it going? Are you all right?

0:50:010:50:05

What has he got?

0:50:050:50:07

Ashley, I'm going skating!

0:50:070:50:09

-How's it going, Mum?

-Are you all right?

0:50:090:50:12

How's it going, Mike?

0:50:120:50:14

-Happy birthday.

-Thank you.

-How are you, Rosie?

0:50:140:50:17

-I'm going skating!

-Yeah.

0:50:170:50:20

-Let's go in.

-Come on, let's go in and get a brew.

-It's freezing.

0:50:200:50:23

'I finally feel ready to ask some difficult questions.'

0:50:230:50:27

-Why did you go into care? If you want to talk about it?

-Yeah.

0:50:300:50:34

We were quite neglected. Probably from about the age of four

0:50:340:50:39

I'd been on an "at risk" register with social services,

0:50:390:50:42

so I don't really understand

0:50:420:50:44

why we hadn't been taken into care before then.

0:50:440:50:47

We just used to wander the streets, not really fed properly.

0:50:470:50:51

How we did eventually get taken into care,

0:50:510:50:54

my mum was mixing with these two girls

0:50:540:50:56

that were known as local prostitutes

0:50:560:50:59

and one night they were all in our flat, the two girls and my mum.

0:50:590:51:04

My mum every night used to get ready to go to the pub.

0:51:040:51:06

She was putting on her make-up and they were all drinking vodka,

0:51:060:51:09

so they thought it would be funny to see if I drunk the vodka...

0:51:090:51:14

-How old were you?

-I was about seven.

0:51:140:51:17

I didn't want to drink the vodka, so what they started doing was...

0:51:170:51:20

My mum was just laughing at it,

0:51:200:51:22

because I think she must have been drunk, but they were slapping my hand

0:51:220:51:26

and going, "You've got to drink it."

0:51:260:51:28

My mum just went out and left me with these girls

0:51:280:51:32

and the girls then began to get worried

0:51:320:51:35

cos obviously I was in quite a bad state

0:51:350:51:38

and rather than take some action,

0:51:380:51:40

they just left me on the pavement outside these flats.

0:51:400:51:43

The neglect my mum suffered from her parents,

0:51:430:51:46

years of being shunted around the care system

0:51:460:51:49

and then in a violent relationship meant that when I was a baby,

0:51:490:51:54

she was totally unprepared and unable to look after me.

0:51:540:51:57

The saddest truth is that when you grow up in care,

0:51:570:52:01

you're twice as likely to have your own children taken into care.

0:52:010:52:05

There's the guilt, isn't there?

0:52:050:52:07

I was this rubbish failed mum. I didn't protect you,

0:52:070:52:10

so not only did I have the past to beat myself up about,

0:52:100:52:13

it's just another thing

0:52:130:52:16

and I suppose I felt I wasn't good enough to be your mum.

0:52:160:52:18

There's those sorts of feelings attached to it.

0:52:180:52:21

The day you were born, to be honest,

0:52:210:52:23

I knew I was in a really rubbish situation and I prayed to God

0:52:230:52:28

that you wouldn't get taken into care because I think...

0:52:280:52:31

SHE STARTS TO SOB I think, in my head,

0:52:310:52:34

I knew that I was in a bad situation...

0:52:340:52:37

That...

0:52:370:52:39

-Sorry.

-It's cool. It's cool.

0:52:400:52:43

But I always remember that.

0:52:450:52:47

I mean, when I look back now I just think, like, that wasn't even me.

0:52:480:52:53

It's mad to think that I went through all that,

0:52:530:52:57

so it's nice that people can understand

0:52:570:53:00

and understand why I was a messed-up person,

0:53:000:53:03

but I'm also proud of myself today,

0:53:030:53:07

to work and come through that, and...

0:53:070:53:09

-I'm proud, too.

-Thank you, baby.

-Really proud.

0:53:090:53:12

You've really earned your stripes, do you know what I'm saying?

0:53:120:53:15

To be where you are today. And that is commendable, man.

0:53:150:53:18

-You deserve a...

-I'm going to cry again.

0:53:180:53:21

No, but seriously, like, you're not just a...

0:53:210:53:25

You're not just...

0:53:250:53:27

-I think you're extraordinary.

-Oh, Ash.

0:53:270:53:31

Don't.

0:53:310:53:32

-I always do it.

-But you are.

0:53:360:53:38

You are. It's the truth.

0:53:380:53:41

'It's been tough, obviously.

0:53:420:53:45

'You're reminded of the journey.'

0:53:450:53:47

I'm obviously reminded of my journey,

0:53:470:53:50

but also my mum's journey

0:53:500:53:52

and just seeing how much of a remarkable woman my mum is

0:53:520:53:56

because most people who go through half of what my mum goes through

0:53:560:54:00

end up mentally ill in some recovery institution,

0:54:000:54:05

dead, in prison, and my mum's gone through so much

0:54:050:54:08

and she's here and she's doing really well.

0:54:080:54:13

You know, my mum not having a good parent

0:54:130:54:16

meant that it took her so much longer to learn the essential skills

0:54:160:54:21

for good living and for good parenthood.

0:54:210:54:23

Oh, my days. Oh!

0:54:300:54:34

-They are cute, aren't they?

-Oh, my days!

0:54:340:54:37

That's my favourite photo.

0:54:370:54:38

I always wonder what you were thinking.

0:54:380:54:42

-You were so cute, really.

-Wow, look at this charmer.

0:54:420:54:46

'Thankfully, my mum has broken the cycle of care

0:54:460:54:49

'with my two little sisters.

0:54:490:54:51

'I'm confident I have learnt from her hardships

0:54:510:54:54

'and those of many other people in care

0:54:540:54:58

'and when I have children, I'll be the best dad I can be.'

0:54:580:55:02

# If you walk my way

0:55:170:55:20

# I ain't sitting down Cos I know it's my time

0:55:200:55:23

# I know it's my time

0:55:230:55:27

# Oh, oh-oh

0:55:270:55:29

# If you're living your life

0:55:290:55:31

# Doing all you can to stand up It's time

0:55:310:55:34

# You know it's your time... #

0:55:340:55:37

It's obvious that when you go into care,

0:55:370:55:39

you've already had a bad start.

0:55:390:55:40

The biggest problem for me was moving about so much.

0:55:480:55:52

I wish that I had what Vicky had.

0:55:520:55:54

I wish that I could have been in a home

0:55:540:55:56

that I could have called my family from, you know, two to 18.

0:55:560:56:00

# ..If you walk my way

0:56:000:56:03

# I ain't sitting down Cos I know it's my time

0:56:030:56:06

# I know it's my time

0:56:060:56:08

# Oh, oh-oh... #

0:56:080:56:11

'There is a real lack of carers and foster families

0:56:110:56:14

'and we need more to come forward.'

0:56:140:56:16

# ..You know it's your time... #

0:56:160:56:19

Knowing that whether you're seven or 17, the people that you live with,

0:56:190:56:23

they're always going to be there for you.

0:56:230:56:26

That's what's important.

0:56:260:56:27

In the care system, the main thing should be love.

0:56:290:56:33

# ..If you love life If you like life

0:56:360:56:39

# Turn your head up to the sky You'll be all right

0:56:390:56:41

# If you walk my way

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# I ain't sitting down Cos I know it's my time

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# I know it's my time

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# Oh, oh-oh

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# If you're living your life

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# Doing all you can to stand up It's time

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# You know it's you time. #

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