Baby Makers: The Fertility Clinic


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What do we do when we want to procreate?

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We put the candles on, the lights, get Engelbert Humperdinck

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on the record player, and we have missionary sex lying down on the

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silk sheets, and then the female puts her legs up in the air, puts a pillow

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under her bottom, because one of the questions that she wants to ask me,

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and never dares, is that, "Why is it that the sperm all dribbles out?"

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Britain is in the grip of a fertility crisis.

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Our lifestyle is affecting our chances of having babies.

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Women are leaving it later to have children,

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and men's sperm counts are falling.

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That's quite a small sample.

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Volume-wise, that's quite a regular amount.

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Reproductive treatment is one of the fastest-growing

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areas of medicine, with over 200,000 babies born in Britain to date.

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Big cough.

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WOMAN COUGHS

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More and more desperate couples are seeking high-tech and sometimes

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very expensive procedures to give them that elusive dream baby.

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When you think you can't potentially have a family,

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and then to have him, it's a little miracle!

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But what's it like to work on the front line of fertility treatment?

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You sound lovely!

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How does it feel to be a scientist,

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nurse or doctor involved in the very creation of a new life?

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Of course it makes all of us anxious,

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because it's an incredibly high-responsibility job.

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Does anyone come closer to playing God?

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This is Liverpool Women's Hospital.

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It's home to the Hewitt Fertility Centre,

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one of the largest and most modern fertility clinics in the country,

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offering both NHS and private treatment.

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I'm spending three months here to find out what it's like

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to be one of the doctors or nurses who treat the patients.

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Or the scientists who actually create life in the lab.

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The clinic is run by Prof Charles Kingsland.

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In his long career, Charles has helped conceive thousands of babies.

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Your eggs are 40 years old.

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Fertility treatment is still a source of great controversy

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in this country, but Charles feels it should be available to everyone.

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It's just a question of getting the right egg.

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To have or not to have children is a lifestyle choice.

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When you decide you want children but can't have them,

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that is when the problem arises.

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If you look at the definition of disease,

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it is an abnormality of easiness.

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And one thing you notice about men and women who want to have children,

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and who can't have children, they are diseased.

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And any disease is worthy of treatment,

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and ideally, in this country, I believe diseases should be

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treated free at the point of access within the National Health Service.

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Charles believes fertility treatment is a human right,

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and most people are allowed two free goes on the NHS.

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But those fail, they will have to pay for the next treatment.

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The first medication that you are going to start taking...

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The whole process takes around two months.

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It's geared towards creating as many eggs as possible by artificially

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stimulating a woman's ovaries with drugs,

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which she has to inject every day for five weeks.

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Each one of those is one of your follicles...

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The ovaries create lots of follicles,

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each one hopefully containing an egg.

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You are ready for planning egg collection.

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At this point, the woman is booked in to have her eggs collected.

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This morning, Prof Kingsland is about to start a daily round of egg collections.

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-Morning.

-Good morning.

-Pleased to meet you.

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His first patient is 38-year-old Deborah Dickin.

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I've been awake since five.

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-Worrying!

-Nervous.

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-You won't feel a thing.

-This is the easy bit.

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Once Deborah's eggs are collected, they will be introduced

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to her husband's sperm, and if they fertilise, they will become embryos.

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This procedure requires the patient be under general anaesthetic,

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'and takes about ten minutes.

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'On average, a woman produces around six eggs.'

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These are any indication of what this lady might get out?

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I'm hoping that she will get about three or four eggs today, so what

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we do now is we put the needle through the vaginal skin

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and then straight into the ovary,

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missing all the vital organs that might get in the way.

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So what I'm doing now is just having a quick scan around, looking at the end of my atrium,

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and making sure there is nothing at the end of the ovary

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and the follicle, and then just pop the needle straight in,

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and you can actually see the needle

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is right in the middle of the follicle.

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Put my foot on the pump,

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and the fluid is now dribbling into that test tube.

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And then you can actually see that follicle shrinking away.

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Deborah and her husband Matt have been trying for a baby for three years.

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This is their first time trying IVF.

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Having children is a biological drive.

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It's like moving, growing, breathing, eating...

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It's a drive, and if you have an inability to conceive,

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all you think about all day long is babies.

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Having babies, your inability.

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The first thing in the morning, you think about it,

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the last thing at night.

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And then, of course, you get so stressed,

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your mind starts playing tricks on you.

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Why is it that every shop on the high Street is Mothercare?

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Everybody is pushing a pram.

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Why is it that every time I nip into a supermarket,

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I always walk down the aisle with the nappies?

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Of course, that's not true, but that's what you perceive.

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And then somebody comes along and says, "Just relax."

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How can you relax? It's a very stressful situation.

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That's it. It's all over.

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-Coo-ee!

-All right? Are you OK?

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After the procedure, Deborah is taken to the recovery area,

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and given a cup of tea.

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-I don't feel any pains. Is that likely to come?

-You may do.

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-I don't feel like anyone's been down below.

-Good. Good!

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Do you find women fascinating?

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I think women are great!

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I think they are...eternally fascinating, and challenging.

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Difficult to understand, but the beauty of being a gynaecologist

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is that it is like being a mechanic in a Mercedes garage.

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Women are built to last.

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They live longer than men, they have more fortitude than men,

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they are built better.

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We're Ford Escorts.

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We race around for 60,000 miles and our big ends blow,

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our heart blows, and you drop dead in the street.

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Women are built to have babies, so their physiology is so much stronger.

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-You all right?

-Yes!

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-Deborah Dickin?

-It is.

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-You got five eggs.

-Ooh!

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-So well done.

-Lovely! Brilliant.

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-Fingers crossed!

-I was worried there wasn't any!

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-Well done.

-She was very nervous.

-Five is a good number.

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-Is it about the average, is it?

-Yeah.

-Is it?

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-Good sizes?

-We don't know the quality yet.

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We only know the number.

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So worried. Thank you.

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There you go. See? Nothing to worry about.

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Deborah Dickin and Matthew Dickin...

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Deborah Dickin's eggs and her husband Matt's sperm

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are brought together here in the embryology lab.

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Here, the embryologists can take in up to 70 eggs a day,

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and millions of sperm, in what is a finely-tuned human production line.

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-You can see them swimming.

-Yeah.

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You can see these are swimming quite fast.

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What I am going to try and do is try and catch them.

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The head of embryology, Rachel,

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is carrying out a procedure called ICSI for the Dickins.

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She must select what she thinks is the best sperm.

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This is then injected directly into the egg.

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ICSI is used in cases where men have low sperm counts,

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or sperm that doesn't move around much.

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That's it. We start the hunt for the next sperm.

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-Are sperm tricky buggers to catch?

-Yes.

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It's the hardest part of the ICSI process, really.

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What we're doing is we're selecting the sperm.

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We're not letting the best sperm enter the egg itself.

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You're swimming beautifully! Right.

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Going to see if I can get him.

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Just sort of...

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Running my needle over the tail.

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-Oh! His head's come off!

-Oh!

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SHE LAUGHS

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I knew that would happen!

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He's stuck to the bottom.

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'Rachel injects sperm into five Deborah's eggs.

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'On an average week, Rachel carries out around 50 of these procedures.'

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Will you think about this particular procedure later tonight...

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Oh, God, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

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No matter how many ICSIs you do,

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you still think about it when you get home,

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and you just you think, "Oh, my God, I hope it's all right."

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You know, you hope they get good fertilisation.

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'Rachel is in charge of a team of 14 women.'

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So do you think working here made you a bit more anxious

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to make sure you could have children?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I do.

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It makes you more aware how old you are.

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There's a few of us who have talked about should we have our hormone levels checked?

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We're all worried, I think. We're all worried.

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-You're all worried?

-Yeah. And I'm only 24!

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All right! Don't show off!

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-I've been told I look 35.

-I'm 29, that's worse!

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'Amy is the youngest embryologist at the Hewitt Fertility Centre,

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'aged just 24.'

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-Do you go on at your boyfriend about it?

-No.

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-About having kids?

-No.

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-So he doesn't know that you're anxious about it?

-Erm...

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Well... I suppose I've said it.

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But I'm not...

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I'm not, you know, badgering him to have children!

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You don't sit there on an evening saying, "Oh, the clock's ticking!"

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No. No, I don't!

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Cos I also think what will be will be,

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and I'm not sure I'd have fertility treatment if I needed it.

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-Why?

-I don't know if I could go through it myself,

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and obviously, I've never done it, but when you see it every day,

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and you see what the women go through,

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and it's very difficult for them, I think.

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-And I don't think I've got that strength.

-Really?

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I don't know. I still think I'm still too young to decide,

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but then at the same time...

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I'm getting older! I'm only getting older!

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There is another part of the treatment process

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at the Hewitt Centre, which has no time for science and technology.

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It's a procedure that is as old as time itself.

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This is back to the nerve centre of the unit.

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Across the way, that's where all the ladies go for their eggs collected,

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and at the same time, the gentlemen will come in here

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to our masturbatorium and produce their sample.

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This used to be called the room 21.

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Ten fingers, ten toes,

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I'll leave you to think where the extra digit comes from!

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We have a comfortable chair,

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we have earphones for music or videos,

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and we have a touch screen here

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which displays a choice of appropriate stimulatory material,

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as opposed to a few tatty old magazines

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that are strewn around on a coffee table.

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'Each of these newly refurbished "masturbatoriums",

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'as Charles likes to call them,

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'comes equipped with its own selection of pornographic films.

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'Today, a couple who are on their second cycle of treatment

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'are in to have their eggs collected.

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'Lisa Henney's husband Gareth has just been into the masturbatorium.'

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It's a funny thing, isn't it, because most wives would not

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be that happy about their partners watching porn.

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-Yeah.

-And yet, how do you feel about it in this situation?

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-It doesn't bother me at all.

-It doesn't bother you?

-No.

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Could you not have told me that four years ago?

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No! It doesn't bother me.

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-Hi!

-I'm looking for a Lisa Henney.

-That's me.

-Is that you?

-Yes.

-Pleased to meet you.

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'Charles's team do up to 12 egg collections every day.'

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-Pleased to meet you.

-Bye!

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'Like many couples, there is no apparent reason why Lisa

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'and Gareth Henney have not been able to get pregnant.'

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You sound lovely.

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Are you asleep yet?

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Ooh, right.

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You must have done this procedure many times?

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The first 10,000 were a bit difficult.

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After that, it gets a bit routine!

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Usually takes about five minutes.

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This lady's got a fair number of follicles.

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Her ovaries have responded quite well.

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That's it.

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LISA SIGHS

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-How are you feeling?

-Thank you so much.

-It's quite all right.

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You're so lovely. You are lovely with people.

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I must say that to you. You really are.

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How many eggs?

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Haven't finished counting them! Just counting them now!

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-Go now! Find out!

-THEY LAUGH

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-Right, I'll go now then! Immediately!

-I couldn't feel anything.

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We've got six so far.

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-It's good.

-Oh, thank you.

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-Is it time for a cup of tea?

-Oh, I could have stayed for a bit longer!

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Lisa Henney, 29, three, seven...

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Lisa and Gareth's fertilisation is being carried out by Rachel,

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using the most common method of treatment,

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in vitro fertilisation - IVF.

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So I just pick up my sperm,

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and I just drop it onto the well...

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..containing the eggs.

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The Petri dish imitates the environment of the womb,

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and the process of natural selection is allowed to unfold.

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I can see motile sperm in there, I can just see them swimming now.

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And they need to get towards that egg now.

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So I'll leave it up to them. It's out of our hands.

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There you go. See if that can find the egg itself.

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There's an egg.

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You can see the eggs here.

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There's a lot of cells around it, so you can't really get a good focus on the cell. The egg itself.

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These are all its cumulus cells,

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and you can just see the sperm starting to swim towards it now.

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-Oh, yes.

-You can just see them swimming around.

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-You can just about see them, can't you?

-Yeah.

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-There's a lot to get through, isn't it?

-Yeah, loads. And they're tiny.

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Look at the tiny sperm compared to the size of the egg.

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Both the Henneys' and the Dickins' eggs will hopefully

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develop into embryos over the next few days.

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During that time, they will be checked regularly,

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along with the several hundred other embryos stored in the lab.

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-BOTH:

-Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8...

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Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8.

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Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8.

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'Embryologists are trained on the job for three years,

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'and need a degree in a life science like biology.

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'But working with such microscopic human cells,

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'they need to be incredibly well-organised too.'

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Do you feel that there's a certain sort of mindset that suits an embryologist?

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-I'm a bit of an obsessive-compulsive paranoid person, I would say!

-Really?

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It makes you good at your job.

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Do you think that you acquire that sort of mentality

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once you come here and work for while?

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Do you think you come here with it?

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I think you make a good embryologist

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if you have a little bit of it inside of you anyway.

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I think it breeds it a little more inside of you. It makes you worse.

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I don't think that I have got those tendencies by working here,

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I think this place suits my natural tendencies,

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and I am, I'm a bit of a control freak, clean freak,

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all of those things in my whole life, never mind in here.

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I can't think of any other business anywhere where the consequences could be so great.

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-For that detail.

-Exactly. You are expected...

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it is one of the only jobs where you are expected to be absolutely

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100% perfect, and there is no room for human error whatsoever.

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Which... Is that an impossible situation? Maybe it is. Exactly.

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Cos we are all human, after all.

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But you have to be perfect, or as close to perfection, as we are!

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Really? So it's gone so far so good?

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After my first week at the centre,

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I'd got a sense of just how normal fertility treatment has become.

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But I was intrigued to learn that despite all of the very

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expensive high-tech science, Charles's advice to many couples

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is simply to try getting back to basics.

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OK. Say seven million years ago, this couple, the only two

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people on the planet, and it's their job to populate the planet.

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-Like Adam and Eve?

-Yeah. Like Adam and Eve.

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And they have got to compete with all of the other animals,

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with bloody hairy sabre-tooth tigers and mammoths and dinosaurs.

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Do they have... And they've got to survive, right?

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Do they have sexual intercourse quickly or slowly?

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DOCUMENTARIAN CHUCKLES

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Go on!

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I'd say they do it...quickly.

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-Why?

-To get away from a predator.

-Exactly!

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-Lying down or standing up?

-Standing up.

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Should the male be relaxed or anxious?

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-I think he should be anxious.

-Should be anxious?

-Yes.

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Of course you'll be anxious.

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So what I say to patients, imitate the jungle. Just go for it.

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Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. And they say, what will we do?

0:20:050:20:08

Well, next time you are around at your mother-in-law's,

0:20:080:20:10

sit there at Sunday lunch, when you're ovulating,

0:20:100:20:13

and say to your husband, "I'm ovulating.

0:20:130:20:18

"We've got to have to have sexual intercourse in this house before we go home,

0:20:180:20:22

"and by the way, I'm not wearing any knickers!"

0:20:220:20:25

And I guarantee you, he will have the best sperm count ever!

0:20:250:20:29

Difficulties with fertility don't just lie with the woman.

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The man is part of the equation.

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And in particular, the quality of his sperm

0:20:360:20:39

can be the root of the problem.

0:20:390:20:41

Lock the door behind you.

0:20:410:20:43

And the Hewitt Fertility Centre has a whole department dedicated

0:20:430:20:47

to the analysis of sperm.

0:20:470:20:48

Oh, it's so sticky! Urrgh, it's on my glove!

0:20:480:20:53

The andrology department gets all its samples from the masturbatoriums.

0:20:530:20:57

Each one is connected to the laboratory by a special hatch.

0:20:570:21:01

-ALARM BEEPS

-So when the sample is placed in the hatch, the alarm goes,

0:21:010:21:05

so we know it's there, and it's ready to take.

0:21:050:21:08

And we just have a look, just check the details,

0:21:080:21:12

and we'll sign for the sample, to say it's been received.

0:21:120:21:16

Amanda is one of the andrologists.

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The best sperm moves around fast, with a sense of purpose.

0:21:190:21:23

These healthy sperm are described as motile.

0:21:230:21:26

This sample is in a raw state. It is quite unprepared.

0:21:260:21:31

So before we use this for any sort of treatment,

0:21:310:21:36

a lot of the non-motile sperm will be washed out of the sample

0:21:360:21:42

in the preparation process.

0:21:420:21:44

This sample is actually concentrated down, so the sample that we use

0:21:440:21:48

has a lot more of these motile, freely-swimming sperm.

0:21:480:21:52

Hello?

0:21:530:21:55

When Charles needs to speak to a man about the quality of his sperm,

0:21:550:21:59

he tries to get onto the man's level.

0:21:590:22:01

I'll say, "Do you follow football?", and they will say, "Yes."

0:22:010:22:05

I'll say, "Your sperm is Fulham. Your sperm is Wigan."

0:22:050:22:09

And they'll say, "What does that mean?"

0:22:090:22:11

And I will say, "You'll probably stay up this year,

0:22:110:22:14

"but it will be a tough fight!"

0:22:140:22:16

Rarely are they Manchester United or Manchester city.

0:22:160:22:19

Most of us are Stoke or West Brom,

0:22:190:22:23

although West Brom are doing particularly well this year,

0:22:230:22:26

and some unfortunately might be Southampton.

0:22:260:22:29

In the andrology lab, there is also hope for infertile men,

0:22:290:22:33

in the form of sperm donors, like 21-year-old Nathan.

0:22:330:22:37

Donors like Nathan can also help same-sex couples

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or single women who want a baby.

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But the Hewitt Centre has a shortage of donors.

0:22:440:22:48

I have a stepfather who now acts as my father.

0:22:480:22:50

And I love him more for that,

0:22:510:22:54

because I know he's chosen to be my father,

0:22:540:22:57

and so I think I have a unique perspective.

0:22:570:23:00

It helps me do this.

0:23:000:23:02

It helps me think that there's going to be someone else out there

0:23:020:23:05

that has chosen to be a dad.

0:23:050:23:07

That's quite a small sample?

0:23:070:23:08

No, actually 2ml is about the regular volume.

0:23:080:23:12

That's bang on the dot.

0:23:120:23:13

That's a question we get asked quite often.

0:23:150:23:18

Can you do it on that? Is there enough in there? Yes.

0:23:180:23:22

How often do you... into a pot and measure it?!

0:23:220:23:27

So people assume that there is a lot more of it than there is.

0:23:270:23:30

-Is not as if they could do anything about it if they wanted, anyway?

-No. Probably not.

0:23:300:23:35

'Nathan's sample is ready for analysis.'

0:23:350:23:39

It's a lovely sample. There's some good morphology in the sperm.

0:23:390:23:43

They're swimming really well.

0:23:430:23:44

The concentration's quite nice as well. That's some nice sperm.

0:23:440:23:49

There's no denying it. If you are a man and you've had a test done on your sperm,

0:23:490:23:52

there'd be an extra spring in your step, wouldn't there,

0:23:520:23:55

if you found out that you had very good sperm?

0:23:550:23:57

Definitely. Men try to hide...

0:23:570:23:59

they always want to be the stalwart in the relationship,

0:23:590:24:04

and to lend the...

0:24:040:24:08

you know, the arm of comfort to their female mate.

0:24:080:24:11

I've seen men absolutely break down in tears,

0:24:110:24:15

and the woman be the stronger of the two.

0:24:150:24:19

That's rare. It's usually the other way round.

0:24:190:24:21

But even though men are stalwarts, stoical, stiff upper lip,

0:24:210:24:27

when I tell them that they've got good sperm,

0:24:270:24:31

there is definitely a sort of an aura comes about them,

0:24:310:24:36

one of, sort of...well-being.

0:24:360:24:39

-So those are risks that you do need to be aware of.

-Yeah.

0:24:500:24:54

And obviously as you're going through your treatment,

0:24:540:24:56

-we will talk you through all this again.

-OK.

0:24:560:24:59

When a couple begin the process of fertility treatment,

0:25:000:25:04

the first thing they need to do is have a meeting with Sister Diane Ford,

0:25:040:25:08

where she interrogates them about their lifestyle.

0:25:080:25:12

In this case, it's Kerri and Mike Fraser.

0:25:120:25:16

-Do you smoke at all?

-No.

0:25:160:25:18

-What about alcohol?

-Occasionally.

0:25:180:25:21

Would you say each day you have a drink? Or just a couple?

0:25:210:25:24

-No, because I stopped. I've cut down. I've been good.

-OK.

0:25:240:25:28

-Drink alcohol?

-Yeah.

-How much would you say?

0:25:280:25:30

About ten pints a week, something like that.

0:25:320:25:35

-No, you don't! Ten pints a week?!

-At the weekend...

0:25:350:25:39

-So you'd say about ten?

-About ten.

0:25:410:25:44

I would advise that you do reduce that, because alcohol

0:25:440:25:47

can affect both the quality of eggs and the quality of sperm.

0:25:470:25:49

-Yes.

-OK.

0:25:490:25:51

'These two are in their early 30s.

0:25:510:25:54

'They've been trying for a baby for three years.

0:25:540:25:56

'This is their first cycle of IVF treatment.'

0:25:560:25:59

-Because what we want is for you to go home with one healthy single baby.

-Yes.

0:25:590:26:05

But we cannot guarantee fertilisation,

0:26:050:26:08

and we cannot guarantee pregnancy.

0:26:080:26:12

-Are you clear?

-Yes. I'm so excited.

0:26:120:26:15

I'm happy with everything you said. Ready to get going now.

0:26:150:26:21

Well, good luck. Take care,

0:26:210:26:22

don't forget, any queries, just give us a ring.

0:26:220:26:25

-Brilliant.

-All right?

-Thanks very much.

-No problem.

0:26:250:26:28

-Bye!

-Bye!

0:26:330:26:34

-All right, then, see you later.

-OK, see you. Bye.

0:26:340:26:37

'I arrange to meet up with Kerri and Mike in a few weeks' time,

0:26:370:26:40

'when they return for the next stage of their treatment.

0:26:400:26:43

'So far in my time in the Hewitt Centre, I had noticed that patients

0:26:470:26:51

'might have different reasons why they can't get pregnant,

0:26:510:26:54

'but they all share a deep-seated biological desire to have a baby.

0:26:540:26:59

'But one person stands out in demonstrating just how deep this desire runs.'

0:26:590:27:05

My name is Hannah. I'm one of the embryologists.

0:27:050:27:07

And I've just come to speak to you before your egg collection.

0:27:070:27:10

'Anne-Marie Brotherstone.

0:27:100:27:11

'She is 31, but has had two heart attacks in her short life.'

0:27:110:27:15

Just before you go home, we'll see how many eggs have been collected.

0:27:150:27:18

'Because of this untreatable heart condition,

0:27:180:27:20

'a pregnancy could put her life at risk.

0:27:200:27:23

'But even so, she wants a child so much,

0:27:230:27:25

'she is prepared to go against the advice of doctors.'

0:27:250:27:28

Have you got any questions you'd like to ask us?

0:27:280:27:31

My mind's gone blank! No, I don't think so.

0:27:310:27:34

Anne-Marie does have significant medical issues.

0:27:340:27:38

She has this cardiomyopathy, which people thought was serious enough

0:27:380:27:42

for her to be sterilised a number of years ago, and of course, obstetrics

0:27:420:27:48

changes and new technological advances, but nevertheless,

0:27:480:27:52

her pregnancy, if she were to get pregnant, would still be risky.

0:27:520:27:56

Do you feel very nervous?

0:27:560:27:58

Yeah.

0:27:580:27:59

Very nervous.

0:27:590:28:01

You've been waiting a long time, haven't you, for this?

0:28:010:28:05

Yeah.

0:28:050:28:07

Are you nervous about your health, or the eggs?

0:28:090:28:13

The eggs. Not my health!

0:28:130:28:16

-Really?

-She's always been like that.

0:28:160:28:19

Have the doctors expressed to you the risks associated with it?

0:28:200:28:24

Yeah, yeah.

0:28:240:28:26

Just the risk to Anne-Marie, it's the risk...

0:28:260:28:30

there's a chance the baby might have the same heart condition as well.

0:28:300:28:34

We were told that. But, I mean, we still think it's worth it, don't we?

0:28:340:28:39

Yeah. I think the way we look at it is we don't want to get 40, 45,

0:28:390:28:45

and have any regrets and look back

0:28:450:28:47

and think we never done everything we possibly could, isn't it?

0:28:470:28:52

If it doesn't work out, at least we can say we did try everything.

0:28:520:28:59

And hopefully not have any regrets.

0:29:010:29:03

Today, her eggs are being collected.

0:29:070:29:10

But due to the risks, the procedure is being carried out

0:29:100:29:13

in a full operating theatre, and we aren't allowed to film.

0:29:130:29:17

The drained fluid from Anne-Marie's follicles is rushed

0:29:210:29:24

back into the embryology lab, where the search begins to find her eggs.

0:29:240:29:28

There are 21 test tubes of follicular fluid.

0:29:300:29:33

Hannah is already halfway through them.

0:29:330:29:36

Still no eggs so far.

0:29:430:29:45

Egg number one.

0:29:560:29:58

-We've got our first egg?

-Yeah. Really happy!

0:29:590:30:02

Because there was... I didn't expect there to be eggs in every single one,

0:30:020:30:06

but obviously, you do get a bit scared as you go through them,

0:30:060:30:09

and you haven't seen a single one.

0:30:090:30:11

But that egg looks really nice, so hopefully we will get a few more now.

0:30:110:30:15

She continues to search through the remaining test tubes.

0:30:160:30:20

The more eggs produced,

0:30:200:30:22

the better the chance of creating a viable embryo.

0:30:220:30:25

Last tube.

0:30:270:30:29

No.

0:30:360:30:38

One it is.

0:30:380:30:40

Although she found one egg,

0:30:400:30:42

Hannah is concerned it may not be mature enough to fertilise.

0:30:420:30:46

If the egg doesn't fertilise, then that's the end of the line, but...

0:30:460:30:51

We have one, and it does look nice.

0:30:530:30:55

The procedure itself went well.

0:30:550:30:57

The lining of the womb... I know that they scanned you previously...

0:30:570:31:01

Anne-Marie Brotherstone's procedure was carried out by Dr Lucy Coyne.

0:31:010:31:07

When we gave you the injections to help to stimulate the ovaries,

0:31:070:31:11

in the hope of producing eggs,

0:31:110:31:13

Your response wasn't as good as we might have hoped for,

0:31:130:31:17

so I think the fact that we've got an egg today is good news, really.

0:31:170:31:23

The difficulty is obviously, if we create a nice embryo,

0:31:230:31:26

we will have to freeze it,

0:31:260:31:28

because of the fact the lining of the womb hasn't thickened up as we hoped it might have done.

0:31:280:31:32

-Right.

-If you think of anything before we go, just let us know.

0:31:320:31:35

-Yeah, OK.

-Thanks very much.

0:31:350:31:38

That was quite a difficult moment for Dr Coyne,

0:31:380:31:41

because she's actually pregnant.

0:31:410:31:43

Before I was pregnant, I did actually wear normal clothes for clinics and things like that.

0:31:430:31:47

I started wearing scrubs quite early on,

0:31:470:31:49

to try and hide the fact I was pregnant for as long as I could,

0:31:490:31:52

-cos I found that a little bit awkward.

-Did you?

0:31:520:31:55

-With the patients?

-Yeah.

0:31:550:31:57

I'd rather not be pregnant in this environment,

0:31:570:32:00

unless I get to the stage I'm at now,

0:32:000:32:03

where the last patient has seen me has just said,

0:32:030:32:06

"Pass on your good vibes," cos she could tell I was pregnant.

0:32:060:32:09

'One egg was enough for Anne-Marie Brotherstone.'

0:32:130:32:16

Really good news, cos the embryo's fertilised!

0:32:170:32:20

So it carried on maturing, then?

0:32:200:32:23

Yeah, it carried on maturing last night,

0:32:230:32:25

so it was injected a couple of hours late and it has fertilised.

0:32:250:32:29

'Embryologist Hannah successfully got Anne-Marie's egg to fertilise.

0:32:290:32:34

'But as an embryo, it needs to be frozen for a few weeks

0:32:350:32:38

'until the lining of her womb is ready.'

0:32:380:32:41

-Hello?

-'Hi, is that Michael Brotherstone?'

-Yeah, it is, yeah.

0:32:410:32:45

-'Well, I've got brilliant news for you guys.'

-Thank God.

0:32:450:32:48

'The egg you have collected was mature, and it has fertilised.'

0:32:480:32:52

-Oh, brilliant. Absolutely fantastic.

-'OK?'

-Thank you!

0:32:520:32:56

-Lisa Henney?

-Yes, thanks.

0:33:030:33:06

It's nearly a week since Lisa Henney had her eggs collected,

0:33:080:33:11

and five of them have fertilised into embryos.

0:33:110:33:14

Today, one of those embryos will be transferred to her womb.

0:33:140:33:19

This is a key moment in their fertility journey,

0:33:190:33:22

but it's also a critical moment for the staff,

0:33:220:33:25

after weeks of careful treatment.

0:33:250:33:27

It is a culmination of the embryologists' work,

0:33:270:33:30

it's a culmination of the doctors and nurses' work,

0:33:300:33:32

and it's also that crunch time for the patient.

0:33:320:33:35

Patients' awareness throughout infertility is high,

0:33:350:33:39

but at the embryo transfer moment, it's really, really quite electric.

0:33:390:33:44

OK, so we'll leave you to get changed.

0:33:440:33:46

'Hilary will be carrying out the transfer.'

0:33:460:33:49

I'll come back. All right?

0:33:490:33:51

-Do you like doing the embryo transfers?

-Yeah, very much.

0:33:510:33:54

-Is that a good job?

-Yes, it is a very good job. I really like it.

0:33:540:33:59

Yeah.

0:33:590:34:01

It's always a bit...

0:34:010:34:03

..it always fills your stomach with trepidation,

0:34:050:34:08

because it is something that's really important,

0:34:080:34:10

so it is scary to some degree,

0:34:100:34:12

but I think it's always good to be like that,

0:34:120:34:15

-because it is good to respect what you're doing, and not be blase.

-No.

0:34:150:34:19

-It's a key moment in their lives.

-It is.

0:34:210:34:24

Never to be taken lightly.

0:34:240:34:26

But first, in the lab,

0:34:340:34:37

Amy must decide which is the best of the five embryos.

0:34:370:34:40

So, that one is looking all right.

0:34:440:34:48

The cells are differentiating, that's probably what's going to become the inner cell mass,

0:34:480:34:52

which is what becomes the baby.

0:34:520:34:55

This one, you can see the difference between this one and the last one.

0:34:550:34:59

Dark cells there, where it's maybe deteriorating a bit.

0:34:590:35:02

OK. Cluster of cells in the middle.

0:35:040:35:07

Big undifferentiated one there, couple there, and it's quite dark,

0:35:070:35:12

so four out of her five embryos

0:35:120:35:16

haven't managed to continue through the culture.

0:35:160:35:20

They've started deteriorating.

0:35:200:35:23

But that first one is looking good.

0:35:230:35:25

That will definitely be the one that I transfer.

0:35:250:35:27

On this occasion, it's a clear-cut decision,

0:35:270:35:30

but it still carries massive responsibility.

0:35:300:35:33

In the patient's eyes, they're all their babies.

0:35:330:35:36

All the embryos are their babies.

0:35:360:35:38

And they have to stand to one side and watch

0:35:380:35:41

while we do all the choosing,

0:35:410:35:44

and while we have them all in the lab away from their bodies.

0:35:440:35:48

So the responsibility is immense, with all of it,

0:35:480:35:51

not just with the choosing of the embryos.

0:35:510:35:54

Especially, with the choosing of the embryos,

0:35:540:35:56

it's a high responsibility, but it is all very intense.

0:35:560:36:01

Still can't believe we're here.

0:36:010:36:04

That's scary.

0:36:040:36:06

Do you think of it as a little person?

0:36:060:36:09

Um...yeah.

0:36:090:36:11

If it all works out, do you think we could keep the dish it was made in?!

0:36:110:36:15

As a little souvenir? Imagine that, though.

0:36:170:36:20

-There's your dish you were made in!

-Aye, it would be good, that.

0:36:200:36:24

-Would you like to do that? Keep the Petri dish?

-Yeah!

0:36:240:36:27

Yeah, you would, wouldn't you? you'd wear it round your neck on a chain.

0:36:270:36:31

-Put some nuts in it!

-When people come round!

0:36:310:36:35

"My sperm was in that dish!"

0:36:360:36:39

So, I've decided that I'm going to transfer that one in 05.

0:36:410:36:44

I'm going to double-check everything,

0:36:490:36:51

so I'm checking that there's definitely one in there for transfer.

0:36:510:36:54

Then it needs to go back in the incubator until it's transferred.

0:36:540:36:58

-Hi!

-Hi, I'm Amy. We've met before.

0:37:000:37:03

-Yes, we have.

-In the last cycle.

0:37:030:37:05

So out of your five embryos, one of them is actually really nice,

0:37:050:37:10

it looks like it's doing everything spot-on.

0:37:100:37:13

-OK. Happy?

-Yeah.

-It's weird, isn't it?

0:37:130:37:17

-SHE SOBS

-Sorry!

0:37:190:37:21

You don't need to get upset, kid. Eh? It's fine.

0:37:210:37:25

-It's a good thing. Isn't it?

-They're happy tears?

0:37:250:37:30

-Yeah, thank you.

-Good. You're very welcome.

0:37:300:37:33

You changed your mind?!

0:37:330:37:34

THEY LAUGH

0:37:340:37:37

-You OK?

-Yeah.

0:37:380:37:39

I'm going to give the nurses a call.

0:37:390:37:41

-I'll be back in a couple of minutes.

-OK, thank you.

0:37:410:37:44

You can look into it loads.

0:37:470:37:48

It's amazing how you try and put all of your emotions away,

0:37:480:37:51

and deal with it, and think you're really strong, and...

0:37:510:37:55

You build up a rapport with some patients, and you don't with others,

0:37:580:38:02

so certainly if you've seen them all the way through,

0:38:020:38:05

so you've seen them at egg collection and you've seen them at transfer,

0:38:050:38:09

and you've spoken to them on the phone, and you've tracked

0:38:090:38:12

the progress of the embryos, then yeah, I think you do get attached.

0:38:120:38:15

And especially when it's a good...

0:38:150:38:18

probably the extremes of the scale, when it's extremely good

0:38:180:38:21

and when it's extremely bad, you feel strong emotions for them.

0:38:210:38:25

Point your knees.

0:38:270:38:28

I know it goes against the grain, but point your knees out.

0:38:280:38:31

So now I need to get you into position, please.

0:38:310:38:33

-So I'm not just staring underneath.

-It's all right.

0:38:330:38:37

Thanks for that!

0:38:380:38:41

Can you go back a little bit, please? About an inch.

0:38:420:38:46

That's grand. I think a little bit more.

0:38:460:38:49

OK? And now come into the middle a little bit.

0:38:490:38:52

A bit like the Golden Shot. Did you ever watch the Golden Shot years ago?

0:38:520:38:55

-I think you'd probably be too young!

-The Golden what?

0:38:550:38:59

The Golden shot, and it would be up a bit, down a bit. Bernie the Bolt!

0:38:590:39:03

-I remember that. What was the bit?

-Yeah, you would!

0:39:040:39:07

What did you get if you hit it?

0:39:090:39:11

You'd get a prize, or you would go on to the next round.

0:39:110:39:17

A lot of cash came out, didn't it?

0:39:170:39:19

Oh, yes, I remember now, yeah! I remember that!

0:39:190:39:23

That's right. I was, gosh... I just remember Bernie the Bolt.

0:39:230:39:28

-Would you like to see your embryo?

-Yeah.

0:39:290:39:33

OK, so if you just want to look up at the screen for me,

0:39:330:39:36

I can show you both the embryos.

0:39:360:39:38

OK. So there's your embryos there.

0:39:380:39:40

Doing everything they should for today. Well done.

0:39:400:39:43

-GARETH: Where's it going?

-Camera shy!

0:39:430:39:46

HANNAH: So that mass of cells at the top, that's the inner cell mass.

0:39:480:39:52

-GARETH: Ah!

-Gosh!

0:39:520:39:55

You'll feel a little bit of pressure as I open up

0:40:030:40:05

and look at the neck of the womb. OK?

0:40:050:40:07

-You all right now?

-Yeah, I'm fine.

0:40:180:40:20

-Is it hurting you?

-I'm OK.

0:40:200:40:22

-I'm putting your embryo back now. Good luck to you both.

-Thank you.

0:40:360:40:40

HANNAH: Thank you.

0:40:450:40:46

I'm just going to check now

0:40:460:40:48

and make sure the embryo has left the catheter, OK?

0:40:480:40:50

-Yeah, that's lovely and clear. The embryo's in.

-Fantastic.

0:40:530:40:56

-All the best, guys.

-Thank you very much. Thank you.

0:40:560:40:59

-Have you performed lots of those, Hilary?

-Yes. Yes.

0:41:040:41:07

GARETH: First one today!

0:41:070:41:09

It's a funny one though, because sometimes when I'm doing embryo transfers,

0:41:090:41:13

I think, I'd just love to sing at this present time.

0:41:130:41:16

I don't know. I usually...

0:41:160:41:18

it usually does comes in a feeling.

0:41:190:41:21

I'd love to sing.

0:41:210:41:23

And I really think that most people would find that very inappropriate

0:41:230:41:27

if you just burst out singing!

0:41:270:41:29

They'd go... what on earth!

0:41:290:41:31

While you're down there between the women's legs?

0:41:310:41:35

Yes.

0:41:350:41:37

Yeah. Because it's a lovely thing, isn't it,

0:41:370:41:41

putting someone's embryos in you. It's a lovely thing.

0:41:410:41:44

If you'd like to look at the monitor,

0:41:440:41:46

-I'll just show you your embryo now.

-It's dying to get to me!

0:41:460:41:49

Now it's the turn of Deborah Dickin,

0:41:510:41:54

whose husband Matt had a low sperm count.

0:41:540:41:56

-Who are you?

-Deborah Dickin.

0:41:580:42:00

Very good. You haven't been placed...

0:42:000:42:02

Becky's just going to check that the embryos have gone.

0:42:150:42:18

-That's fine, it's in.

-That's it. It's all over.

0:42:180:42:21

-Good luck, guys.

-Thank you very much.

0:42:230:42:26

-OK, then, all the very best.

-Thank you.

-Cheers.

0:42:280:42:31

-I wish you the best of luck with it.

-Thank you very much, Richard.

0:42:330:42:37

-Time will tell, now!

-Yes, time will tell.

0:42:370:42:41

'On average, couples who go through fertility treatment

0:42:410:42:45

'have a 30 to 40% chance of success.'

0:42:450:42:48

I've seen it in patients' eyes when they come and see you,

0:42:480:42:51

not overstating it, to see you as someone who performs miracles.

0:42:510:42:55

No, well...

0:42:550:42:57

Technically, in vitro fertilisation

0:42:580:43:05

is a routine procedure.

0:43:050:43:07

It's how we manage the patients which is the difficult thing.

0:43:070:43:11

The laboratory bit often is the easy bit.

0:43:110:43:14

It's how we manage the patient's expectations.

0:43:140:43:18

Our contract to the patient is to say,

0:43:180:43:20

"Well, we can't guarantee you babies, but we'll do our very best,"

0:43:200:43:25

so that we try and avoid the scenario

0:43:250:43:28

that I think is the one we should all be striving to avoid,

0:43:280:43:36

and that is the patient who hasn't got any children,

0:43:360:43:39

but is left in the situation where she says, or he says,

0:43:390:43:42

"If only. If only I'd had the funding to have this treatment.

0:43:420:43:47

"If only we should have done that."

0:43:470:43:49

And that is what we've got to try and avoid.

0:43:490:43:51

And that's what we try and do here.

0:43:510:43:55

Ten days have passed, and it's time for the Henneys

0:44:040:44:07

and the Dickins to take their home pregnancy tests.

0:44:070:44:11

For Gareth and Lisa, it's not good news.

0:44:110:44:15

I don't know what to think, what to do next,

0:44:150:44:17

so I don't think I want to do IVF again.

0:44:170:44:19

But you said that, didn't you? But...it's early, isn't it?

0:44:200:44:24

-We're going to relax, aren't we, and take things...

-Yeah. 38 this month.

0:44:240:44:30

-Are you?

-Yeah!

0:44:300:44:32

You know I am.

0:44:340:44:36

-So we'll make other plans now, and get over it.

-We've got a good life.

0:44:360:44:43

No. We've got lots of pets, as you can see!

0:44:430:44:46

But no, we'll be OK.

0:44:460:44:49

I think my mum and dad have avoided me this week,

0:44:490:44:51

because I think they're stressed and upset, aren't they?

0:44:510:44:54

-Do you feel disappointed for them?

-Yeah, I do.

0:44:540:44:58

Because all they do is say what great parents we'll make, don't they?

0:44:580:45:03

We've got so many lovely kids in the family, haven't we?

0:45:030:45:06

Our nephews are just... They're all so lovely.

0:45:060:45:09

Our time will come. I promise you.

0:45:090:45:12

All the kids are great.

0:45:120:45:15

They all love us to bits, don't they?

0:45:150:45:17

We've got good people around us. Everywhere we go, it's good people.

0:45:170:45:21

Yeah. We're so lucky. We've got lots of lovely people in our lives.

0:45:210:45:26

We have. Mm-hmm.

0:45:260:45:28

So we said we'd get a pram for the cat!

0:45:300:45:32

At Deborah and Matt's home, it's also sad news.

0:45:350:45:39

It's hard for me, because I feel like I might never be a mum.

0:45:450:45:49

I just want to have our own flesh and blood.

0:45:520:45:55

-Hard to deal with.

-Hmm. It is.

0:46:000:46:03

When you have the embryo transfer, you see the egg, the embryo,

0:46:030:46:09

you fertilise that.

0:46:090:46:10

It's still me and Matthew, it's still been fertilised,

0:46:100:46:14

and you think, well...

0:46:140:46:17

-You're creating a life, here.

-Yeah, you're creating a life,

0:46:170:46:19

and then you feel like it has been pulled from under you.

0:46:190:46:23

-Nature's way, I suppose.

-Cruel way.

-Yeah.

0:46:230:46:26

-A very cruel way, sometimes.

-But...

0:46:260:46:30

I just want to have our own flesh and blood.

0:46:300:46:33

Something that we've produced,

0:46:330:46:36

and we can bring up our way.

0:46:360:46:39

-And we will.

-We will. We will.

0:46:420:46:44

We've still got to be positive, because we've still got another go.

0:46:440:46:48

-And it's just a waiting game again now.

-Yeah.

0:46:490:46:54

It's very difficult not to take it personally, but of course, sometimes

0:46:590:47:04

you have to try and distance yourself from those sort of emotions,

0:47:040:47:08

because it can be quite detrimental

0:47:080:47:13

to your own health and well-being.

0:47:130:47:17

Isn't it?

0:47:190:47:20

I came in halfway through that!

0:47:200:47:22

-Stress.

-Oh, yes. Yes.

0:47:220:47:25

Upset. Disappointed.

0:47:250:47:28

Probably the same sort of feelings that they were feeling,

0:47:280:47:31

but not to the same extent. Because it's their treatment.

0:47:310:47:33

But we do that with all the patients.

0:47:330:47:35

You feel elation when someone gets pregnant,

0:47:350:47:38

and you feel disappointment when they don't.

0:47:380:47:40

Because our job is to get them pregnant,

0:47:400:47:42

and if we haven't done that for them,

0:47:420:47:44

then in our eyes, we've...failed, really.

0:47:440:47:46

But also, talking about being happy or being sad, then these have

0:47:460:47:51

got to be fleeting emotions for us, because we see so many people.

0:47:510:47:55

If you got too attached...

0:47:550:47:57

and too emotionally involved with all of them, you would be...

0:47:570:48:01

-an emotional wreck coming to work! You'd be crying all the time!

-Yeah.

0:48:010:48:05

And that hardness comes with time.

0:48:050:48:07

Because when I started here, I found everything really difficult,

0:48:070:48:11

and everything was like, why isn't it working? And...

0:48:110:48:13

But now, like Hannah says, you just have to feel the emotions,

0:48:130:48:18

but you do have to remember what you're doing, and why you're here,

0:48:180:48:21

and the other patients matter as well.

0:48:210:48:23

Anne-Marie Brotherstone?

0:48:260:48:27

'All the patients I had met at the Hewitt Fertility Centre are desperate to have a baby,

0:48:310:48:36

'but none more so than Anne-Marie Brotherstone,

0:48:360:48:39

'who has a rare heart condition.'

0:48:390:48:41

-All right?

-Hmm.

0:48:410:48:44

-Nearly there.

-Yeah.

0:48:440:48:46

'She had just one egg.

0:48:460:48:48

'It fertilised, but the embryo had to be frozen

0:48:480:48:51

'because her womb wasn't ready.

0:48:510:48:53

'Now, two months later, she is back to have the embryo transferred.

0:48:530:48:56

'The procedure is going to be performed by Jill.'

0:48:580:49:02

You've not got children, have you?

0:49:020:49:04

-No. Got a cat!

-You've got a cat?

-Yes.

0:49:040:49:07

How do you find working in this environment with people

0:49:070:49:10

who are all on the search for children?

0:49:100:49:12

It's a difficult one to answer really.

0:49:150:49:17

I've never wanted children.

0:49:170:49:19

There was never that deep yearning to have them.

0:49:190:49:22

Yeah, but you might have thought, "I'm different to most women."

0:49:220:49:26

No! I'm not!

0:49:260:49:28

Well, are you not different to most women?

0:49:290:49:32

-I might be different and special!

-Yeah, I'm sorry!

0:49:320:49:36

-It's all right. It's fine.

-I did not mean to sound like...

0:49:360:49:39

I know, and to be fair, I haven't actually faced a lot of

0:49:390:49:43

the kind of questions you'd expect, like, "Couldn't you have children?"

0:49:430:49:47

There are quite a few of us who are not in that situation, now, are we?

0:49:470:49:50

How many have you got?

0:49:500:49:51

Three, and I've got a little granddaughter as well.

0:49:510:49:54

So that's lovely.

0:49:540:49:56

And hopefully I'll have some more grandchildren!

0:49:560:49:59

No, I...

0:49:590:50:02

always wanted children.

0:50:020:50:04

I still have my career, and I love my job,

0:50:060:50:08

and I always think I'm very lucky, because I've, you know,

0:50:080:50:11

through the years of my nursing, I've seen some really sad scenarios.

0:50:110:50:18

You all right, Michael? you can sit down if you want.

0:50:220:50:25

Hannah is the embryologist who has been at every stage

0:50:250:50:28

of the Brotherstones' journey.

0:50:280:50:30

-And here's your embryo. Can you see that on the screen?

-Yeah, perfect.

0:50:300:50:34

That's magnified a few hundred times.

0:50:340:50:37

The Brotherstones don't have any frozen embryos to fall back on.

0:50:370:50:41

All their hopes are contained in this one catheter that Hannah carries.

0:50:410:50:46

Thank you. Thanks.

0:50:490:50:51

It's sad. It's sad when they've only got one, and to them,

0:50:580:51:02

that's their potential child.

0:51:020:51:03

That's sad.

0:51:050:51:06

OK, Anne-Marie, the catheter's in place.

0:51:090:51:12

Has that caused you any pains at all?

0:51:120:51:14

No? Good.

0:51:160:51:17

Thank you. OK.

0:51:220:51:25

Now, Hannah's going to take the catheter and flush it,

0:51:250:51:27

just to make sure the embryo has left, OK?

0:51:270:51:30

HANNAH: That's fine. The embryo's in.

0:51:300:51:31

OK. Can you pop your legs down now?

0:51:310:51:33

HANNAH: Well done. Very best of luck. MICHAEL: Thank you.

0:51:330:51:37

-Hello! Here we are again! How are you?

-My mind's blank at the minute.

0:51:400:51:44

-I'm just in shock, I think!

-What, about the fact that it survived?

0:51:440:51:48

-I've got this far!

-We've got to keep our fingers crossed now.

0:51:490:51:52

See what happens. OK. Well, you've got my mobile if you need me.

0:51:520:51:57

-OK. All the very best. MICHAEL:

-Thanks very much for your help.

0:51:570:52:00

See you soon. Bye. Cheers.

0:52:000:52:02

How much hope do you have for them?

0:52:060:52:09

Well, I'm Scorpio.

0:52:090:52:10

My cup is always half empty, so I'm a natural-born pessimist.

0:52:100:52:15

Not a great deal. Not a great deal.

0:52:150:52:18

She's got a lot of problems to face,

0:52:180:52:23

with her cardiomyopathy as well.

0:52:230:52:26

So I'd like to think...

0:52:270:52:30

we've certainly given her a chance, but how things will turn out,

0:52:300:52:34

we'll find out in the fullness of time.

0:52:340:52:37

None of us would be here doing this if we didn't think it was going to work some of the time.

0:52:370:52:41

And every cycle you start, it's with hope, isn't it?

0:52:410:52:44

At least they can say, "I've done everything we can,"

0:52:440:52:48

and what we have to say is, we've done everything we can,

0:52:480:52:52

and certainly for the Brotherstones, on this particular cycle, we have.

0:52:520:52:57

So it's out of our hands now.

0:52:570:52:59

'In ten days' time,

0:53:000:53:02

'the Brotherstones will carry out a home pregnancy test.'

0:53:020:53:06

We'll say goodbye to you then.

0:53:060:53:08

-We'll be in touch?

-Yeah.

-All right.

0:53:080:53:11

I'll give you a text when we're coming back in.

0:53:130:53:15

-If we do come back in.

-Yeah.

-All right then. Best of luck.

0:53:150:53:19

-Thanks very much for that. Speak to you soon.

-Speak to you soon.

-Bye.

0:53:190:53:23

'There is one other couple I had met at my time at the Hewitt Centre

0:53:280:53:32

'who were desperate to have a baby.'

0:53:320:53:34

Big cough. SHE COUGHS

0:53:340:53:37

-Lovely. Are you guys ready?

-Yeah.

0:53:370:53:39

I'd first met Kerri and Mike Fraser a few weeks ago when they were

0:53:390:53:43

being quizzed by a nurse over their alcohol consumption.

0:53:430:53:46

Today, they too are back to have their embryo transferred.

0:53:480:53:52

The embryo's here. We're ready to put it in.

0:53:520:53:55

Here we go.

0:53:550:53:57

-Have you read your white booklet of all your dos and don'ts?

-Yes.

0:53:570:54:00

Is there anything in that that doesn't make sense?

0:54:000:54:02

I really like chorizo sausage. Am I still OK to eat it?

0:54:020:54:05

-You really like what?!

-Chorizo sausage! Am I OK to eat it?

0:54:050:54:09

Cos it says about like Parma ham and all that.

0:54:090:54:11

You know, I have never been asked that before! I don't know!

0:54:110:54:14

I would imagine it's fine.

0:54:140:54:16

Because I have it, like, twice a week!

0:54:160:54:18

-All right, it's in. Good luck, guys.

-Thank you.

-Don't move your legs yet.

0:54:240:54:30

I had to ask about the chorizo sausage,

0:54:300:54:31

cos it's been playing on my mind!

0:54:310:54:33

-It's been bugging you, that, hasn't it?

-They said don't have it.

0:54:330:54:36

-But I cook it, though, don't I?

-I'm not risking it.

-I'll have it then!

0:54:360:54:40

My time was coming to an end at the Hewitt Fertility Centre.

0:54:400:54:44

Good luck, love. With everything.

0:54:440:54:47

Shortly before I leave,

0:54:470:54:48

Dr Lucy Coyne has a buffet before she goes on maternity leave.

0:54:480:54:53

I remember... Yeah, I remember...

0:54:530:54:57

I remember the interview.

0:54:570:54:59

The first question was, who would you like to dinner?

0:54:590:55:03

Who would you invite to dinner?

0:55:030:55:05

Anybody you could invite ever, living or dead.

0:55:050:55:08

The previous guy said, I think I'd invite Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart,

0:55:080:55:13

because he was a genius of the 19th century or whatever.

0:55:130:55:17

So we asked the same to Dr Coyne, and I said,

0:55:170:55:20

"Who would you invite you to your dinner party, anybody, living or dead."

0:55:200:55:25

She said, "I'd like Simon Cowell!"

0:55:250:55:28

-And she got the job?

-That's my girl!

0:55:280:55:31

LAUGHING AND CHEERING

0:55:310:55:35

A few days later, I join Anne-Marie and Michael Brotherstone at home

0:55:400:55:44

for their pregnancy test.

0:55:440:55:46

All right?

0:55:480:55:49

-You've got tissue all over your face.

-I can't look at it.

0:55:590:56:03

You're very good at offering Anne-Marie support, aren't you?

0:56:030:56:06

You have to be. It's...

0:56:060:56:08

There's not much we've been through really.

0:56:080:56:11

The waiting, the appointments,

0:56:110:56:14

we've both been quite upset times, haven't we?

0:56:140:56:18

Just hard to take at the minute.

0:56:180:56:21

-But we'll be all right, won't we?

-Yeah.

0:56:210:56:23

I had spent three months looking at the extraordinary work

0:56:370:56:41

that goes on here, and I had seen it through the eyes of the staff.

0:56:410:56:45

I had learned that by intervening, these scientists and doctors

0:56:450:56:49

can profoundly change the course of people's lives.

0:56:490:56:52

But at the same time,

0:56:520:56:54

I had seen that nature ultimately will have its way.

0:56:540:56:58

While at the Hewitt Centre,

0:56:580:56:59

I had met couples who did not have positive outcomes.

0:56:590:57:03

But I think Charles Kingsland and his team

0:57:030:57:06

did give these unlucky patients something.

0:57:060:57:09

He gave them hope.

0:57:090:57:12

And in the case of Kerri and Mike Fraser...

0:57:120:57:17

Even more.

0:57:170:57:18

Yes! Yes!

0:57:180:57:20

Oh, God!

0:57:240:57:26

Oh, brilliant!

0:57:270:57:29

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