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What do we do when we want to procreate? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
We put the candles on, the lights, get Engelbert Humperdinck | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
on the record player, and we have missionary sex lying down on the | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
silk sheets, and then the female puts her legs up in the air, puts a pillow | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
under her bottom, because one of the questions that she wants to ask me, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
and never dares, is that, "Why is it that the sperm all dribbles out?" | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Britain is in the grip of a fertility crisis. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Our lifestyle is affecting our chances of having babies. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
Women are leaving it later to have children, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
and men's sperm counts are falling. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
That's quite a small sample. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Volume-wise, that's quite a regular amount. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Reproductive treatment is one of the fastest-growing | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
areas of medicine, with over 200,000 babies born in Britain to date. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Big cough. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
WOMAN COUGHS | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
More and more desperate couples are seeking high-tech and sometimes | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
very expensive procedures to give them that elusive dream baby. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
When you think you can't potentially have a family, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
and then to have him, it's a little miracle! | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
But what's it like to work on the front line of fertility treatment? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
You sound lovely! | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
How does it feel to be a scientist, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
nurse or doctor involved in the very creation of a new life? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Of course it makes all of us anxious, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
because it's an incredibly high-responsibility job. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
Does anyone come closer to playing God? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
This is Liverpool Women's Hospital. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It's home to the Hewitt Fertility Centre, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
one of the largest and most modern fertility clinics in the country, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
offering both NHS and private treatment. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
I'm spending three months here to find out what it's like | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
to be one of the doctors or nurses who treat the patients. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Or the scientists who actually create life in the lab. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
The clinic is run by Prof Charles Kingsland. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
In his long career, Charles has helped conceive thousands of babies. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
Your eggs are 40 years old. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
Fertility treatment is still a source of great controversy | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
in this country, but Charles feels it should be available to everyone. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
It's just a question of getting the right egg. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
To have or not to have children is a lifestyle choice. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
When you decide you want children but can't have them, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
that is when the problem arises. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
If you look at the definition of disease, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
it is an abnormality of easiness. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
And one thing you notice about men and women who want to have children, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
and who can't have children, they are diseased. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
And any disease is worthy of treatment, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
and ideally, in this country, I believe diseases should be | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
treated free at the point of access within the National Health Service. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
Charles believes fertility treatment is a human right, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
and most people are allowed two free goes on the NHS. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
But those fail, they will have to pay for the next treatment. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
The first medication that you are going to start taking... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
The whole process takes around two months. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
It's geared towards creating as many eggs as possible by artificially | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
stimulating a woman's ovaries with drugs, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
which she has to inject every day for five weeks. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Each one of those is one of your follicles... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
The ovaries create lots of follicles, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
each one hopefully containing an egg. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
You are ready for planning egg collection. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
At this point, the woman is booked in to have her eggs collected. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
This morning, Prof Kingsland is about to start a daily round of egg collections. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
-Morning. -Good morning. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
His first patient is 38-year-old Deborah Dickin. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
I've been awake since five. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-Worrying! -Nervous. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
-You won't feel a thing. -This is the easy bit. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Once Deborah's eggs are collected, they will be introduced | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
to her husband's sperm, and if they fertilise, they will become embryos. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
This procedure requires the patient be under general anaesthetic, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
'and takes about ten minutes. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
'On average, a woman produces around six eggs.' | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
These are any indication of what this lady might get out? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
I'm hoping that she will get about three or four eggs today, so what | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
we do now is we put the needle through the vaginal skin | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
and then straight into the ovary, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
missing all the vital organs that might get in the way. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
So what I'm doing now is just having a quick scan around, looking at the end of my atrium, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
and making sure there is nothing at the end of the ovary | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and the follicle, and then just pop the needle straight in, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
and you can actually see the needle | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
is right in the middle of the follicle. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Put my foot on the pump, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
and the fluid is now dribbling into that test tube. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
And then you can actually see that follicle shrinking away. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
Deborah and her husband Matt have been trying for a baby for three years. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
This is their first time trying IVF. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Having children is a biological drive. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
It's like moving, growing, breathing, eating... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
It's a drive, and if you have an inability to conceive, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
all you think about all day long is babies. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
Having babies, your inability. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
The first thing in the morning, you think about it, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
the last thing at night. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
And then, of course, you get so stressed, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
your mind starts playing tricks on you. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Why is it that every shop on the high Street is Mothercare? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Everybody is pushing a pram. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Why is it that every time I nip into a supermarket, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
I always walk down the aisle with the nappies? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Of course, that's not true, but that's what you perceive. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
And then somebody comes along and says, "Just relax." | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
How can you relax? It's a very stressful situation. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
That's it. It's all over. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-Coo-ee! -All right? Are you OK? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
After the procedure, Deborah is taken to the recovery area, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and given a cup of tea. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
-I don't feel any pains. Is that likely to come? -You may do. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
-I don't feel like anyone's been down below. -Good. Good! | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Do you find women fascinating? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I think women are great! | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
I think they are...eternally fascinating, and challenging. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
Difficult to understand, but the beauty of being a gynaecologist | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
is that it is like being a mechanic in a Mercedes garage. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
Women are built to last. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
They live longer than men, they have more fortitude than men, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
they are built better. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
We're Ford Escorts. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
We race around for 60,000 miles and our big ends blow, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
our heart blows, and you drop dead in the street. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Women are built to have babies, so their physiology is so much stronger. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
-You all right? -Yes! | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
-Deborah Dickin? -It is. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-You got five eggs. -Ooh! | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-So well done. -Lovely! Brilliant. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
-Fingers crossed! -I was worried there wasn't any! | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
-Well done. -She was very nervous. -Five is a good number. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Is it about the average, is it? -Yeah. -Is it? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-Good sizes? -We don't know the quality yet. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
We only know the number. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
So worried. Thank you. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
There you go. See? Nothing to worry about. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Deborah Dickin and Matthew Dickin... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Deborah Dickin's eggs and her husband Matt's sperm | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
are brought together here in the embryology lab. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Here, the embryologists can take in up to 70 eggs a day, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
and millions of sperm, in what is a finely-tuned human production line. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
-You can see them swimming. -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
You can see these are swimming quite fast. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
What I am going to try and do is try and catch them. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
The head of embryology, Rachel, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
is carrying out a procedure called ICSI for the Dickins. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
She must select what she thinks is the best sperm. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
This is then injected directly into the egg. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
ICSI is used in cases where men have low sperm counts, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
or sperm that doesn't move around much. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
That's it. We start the hunt for the next sperm. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-Are sperm tricky buggers to catch? -Yes. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
It's the hardest part of the ICSI process, really. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
What we're doing is we're selecting the sperm. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
We're not letting the best sperm enter the egg itself. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
You're swimming beautifully! Right. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Going to see if I can get him. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
Just sort of... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Running my needle over the tail. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
-Oh! His head's come off! -Oh! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I knew that would happen! | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
He's stuck to the bottom. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
'Rachel injects sperm into five Deborah's eggs. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
'On an average week, Rachel carries out around 50 of these procedures.' | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
Will you think about this particular procedure later tonight... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Oh, God, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
No matter how many ICSIs you do, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
you still think about it when you get home, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
and you just you think, "Oh, my God, I hope it's all right." | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
You know, you hope they get good fertilisation. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
'Rachel is in charge of a team of 14 women.' | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
So do you think working here made you a bit more anxious | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
to make sure you could have children? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Yes. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Yeah, I do. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
It makes you more aware how old you are. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
There's a few of us who have talked about should we have our hormone levels checked? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
We're all worried, I think. We're all worried. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-You're all worried? -Yeah. And I'm only 24! | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
All right! Don't show off! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-I've been told I look 35. -I'm 29, that's worse! | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
'Amy is the youngest embryologist at the Hewitt Fertility Centre, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
'aged just 24.' | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-Do you go on at your boyfriend about it? -No. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-About having kids? -No. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-So he doesn't know that you're anxious about it? -Erm... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Well... I suppose I've said it. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
But I'm not... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
I'm not, you know, badgering him to have children! | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
You don't sit there on an evening saying, "Oh, the clock's ticking!" | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
No. No, I don't! | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Cos I also think what will be will be, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and I'm not sure I'd have fertility treatment if I needed it. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
-Why? -I don't know if I could go through it myself, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
and obviously, I've never done it, but when you see it every day, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
and you see what the women go through, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
and it's very difficult for them, I think. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-And I don't think I've got that strength. -Really? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I don't know. I still think I'm still too young to decide, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
but then at the same time... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
I'm getting older! I'm only getting older! | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
There is another part of the treatment process | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
at the Hewitt Centre, which has no time for science and technology. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
It's a procedure that is as old as time itself. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
This is back to the nerve centre of the unit. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
Across the way, that's where all the ladies go for their eggs collected, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
and at the same time, the gentlemen will come in here | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
to our masturbatorium and produce their sample. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
This used to be called the room 21. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Ten fingers, ten toes, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
I'll leave you to think where the extra digit comes from! | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
We have a comfortable chair, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
we have earphones for music or videos, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
and we have a touch screen here | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
which displays a choice of appropriate stimulatory material, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
as opposed to a few tatty old magazines | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
that are strewn around on a coffee table. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
'Each of these newly refurbished "masturbatoriums", | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
'as Charles likes to call them, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
'comes equipped with its own selection of pornographic films. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
'Today, a couple who are on their second cycle of treatment | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
'are in to have their eggs collected. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
'Lisa Henney's husband Gareth has just been into the masturbatorium.' | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
It's a funny thing, isn't it, because most wives would not | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
be that happy about their partners watching porn. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-Yeah. -And yet, how do you feel about it in this situation? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-It doesn't bother me at all. -It doesn't bother you? -No. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
Could you not have told me that four years ago? | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
No! It doesn't bother me. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
-Hi! -I'm looking for a Lisa Henney. -That's me. -Is that you? -Yes. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
'Charles's team do up to 12 egg collections every day.' | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-Pleased to meet you. -Bye! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
'Like many couples, there is no apparent reason why Lisa | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
'and Gareth Henney have not been able to get pregnant.' | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
You sound lovely. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Are you asleep yet? | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Ooh, right. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
You must have done this procedure many times? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
The first 10,000 were a bit difficult. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
After that, it gets a bit routine! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Usually takes about five minutes. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
This lady's got a fair number of follicles. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Her ovaries have responded quite well. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
That's it. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
LISA SIGHS | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-How are you feeling? -Thank you so much. -It's quite all right. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
You're so lovely. You are lovely with people. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
I must say that to you. You really are. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
How many eggs? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Haven't finished counting them! Just counting them now! | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
-Go now! Find out! -THEY LAUGH | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-Right, I'll go now then! Immediately! -I couldn't feel anything. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
We've got six so far. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
-It's good. -Oh, thank you. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-Is it time for a cup of tea? -Oh, I could have stayed for a bit longer! | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Lisa Henney, 29, three, seven... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Lisa and Gareth's fertilisation is being carried out by Rachel, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
using the most common method of treatment, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
in vitro fertilisation - IVF. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
So I just pick up my sperm, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
and I just drop it onto the well... | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
..containing the eggs. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
The Petri dish imitates the environment of the womb, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
and the process of natural selection is allowed to unfold. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
I can see motile sperm in there, I can just see them swimming now. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
And they need to get towards that egg now. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
So I'll leave it up to them. It's out of our hands. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
There you go. See if that can find the egg itself. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
There's an egg. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
You can see the eggs here. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
There's a lot of cells around it, so you can't really get a good focus on the cell. The egg itself. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
These are all its cumulus cells, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
and you can just see the sperm starting to swim towards it now. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
-Oh, yes. -You can just see them swimming around. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
-You can just about see them, can't you? -Yeah. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
-There's a lot to get through, isn't it? -Yeah, loads. And they're tiny. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Look at the tiny sperm compared to the size of the egg. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Both the Henneys' and the Dickins' eggs will hopefully | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
develop into embryos over the next few days. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
During that time, they will be checked regularly, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
along with the several hundred other embryos stored in the lab. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
-BOTH: -Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8... | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Gemma Jonesfield, 11, 4, 8. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
'Embryologists are trained on the job for three years, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
'and need a degree in a life science like biology. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
'But working with such microscopic human cells, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
'they need to be incredibly well-organised too.' | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Do you feel that there's a certain sort of mindset that suits an embryologist? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
-I'm a bit of an obsessive-compulsive paranoid person, I would say! -Really? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
It makes you good at your job. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
Do you think that you acquire that sort of mentality | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
once you come here and work for while? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Do you think you come here with it? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
I think you make a good embryologist | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
if you have a little bit of it inside of you anyway. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
I think it breeds it a little more inside of you. It makes you worse. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
I don't think that I have got those tendencies by working here, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
I think this place suits my natural tendencies, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
and I am, I'm a bit of a control freak, clean freak, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
all of those things in my whole life, never mind in here. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
I can't think of any other business anywhere where the consequences could be so great. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
-For that detail. -Exactly. You are expected... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
it is one of the only jobs where you are expected to be absolutely | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
100% perfect, and there is no room for human error whatsoever. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
Which... Is that an impossible situation? Maybe it is. Exactly. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
Cos we are all human, after all. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
But you have to be perfect, or as close to perfection, as we are! | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
Really? So it's gone so far so good? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
After my first week at the centre, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
I'd got a sense of just how normal fertility treatment has become. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
But I was intrigued to learn that despite all of the very | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
expensive high-tech science, Charles's advice to many couples | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
is simply to try getting back to basics. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
OK. Say seven million years ago, this couple, the only two | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
people on the planet, and it's their job to populate the planet. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
-Like Adam and Eve? -Yeah. Like Adam and Eve. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
And they have got to compete with all of the other animals, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
with bloody hairy sabre-tooth tigers and mammoths and dinosaurs. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
Do they have... And they've got to survive, right? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Do they have sexual intercourse quickly or slowly? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
DOCUMENTARIAN CHUCKLES | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Go on! | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
I'd say they do it...quickly. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-Why? -To get away from a predator. -Exactly! | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-Lying down or standing up? -Standing up. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Should the male be relaxed or anxious? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
-I think he should be anxious. -Should be anxious? -Yes. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Of course you'll be anxious. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
So what I say to patients, imitate the jungle. Just go for it. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. And they say, what will we do? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Well, next time you are around at your mother-in-law's, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
sit there at Sunday lunch, when you're ovulating, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and say to your husband, "I'm ovulating. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
"We've got to have to have sexual intercourse in this house before we go home, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
"and by the way, I'm not wearing any knickers!" | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
And I guarantee you, he will have the best sperm count ever! | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
Difficulties with fertility don't just lie with the woman. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
The man is part of the equation. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
And in particular, the quality of his sperm | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
can be the root of the problem. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Lock the door behind you. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
And the Hewitt Fertility Centre has a whole department dedicated | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
to the analysis of sperm. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
Oh, it's so sticky! Urrgh, it's on my glove! | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
The andrology department gets all its samples from the masturbatoriums. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
Each one is connected to the laboratory by a special hatch. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-ALARM BEEPS -So when the sample is placed in the hatch, the alarm goes, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
so we know it's there, and it's ready to take. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
And we just have a look, just check the details, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
and we'll sign for the sample, to say it's been received. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Amanda is one of the andrologists. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
The best sperm moves around fast, with a sense of purpose. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
These healthy sperm are described as motile. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
This sample is in a raw state. It is quite unprepared. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
So before we use this for any sort of treatment, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
a lot of the non-motile sperm will be washed out of the sample | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
in the preparation process. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
This sample is actually concentrated down, so the sample that we use | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
has a lot more of these motile, freely-swimming sperm. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Hello? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
When Charles needs to speak to a man about the quality of his sperm, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
he tries to get onto the man's level. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
I'll say, "Do you follow football?", and they will say, "Yes." | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
I'll say, "Your sperm is Fulham. Your sperm is Wigan." | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
And they'll say, "What does that mean?" | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
And I will say, "You'll probably stay up this year, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
"but it will be a tough fight!" | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Rarely are they Manchester United or Manchester city. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Most of us are Stoke or West Brom, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
although West Brom are doing particularly well this year, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
and some unfortunately might be Southampton. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
In the andrology lab, there is also hope for infertile men, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
in the form of sperm donors, like 21-year-old Nathan. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Donors like Nathan can also help same-sex couples | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
or single women who want a baby. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
But the Hewitt Centre has a shortage of donors. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
I have a stepfather who now acts as my father. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
And I love him more for that, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
because I know he's chosen to be my father, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
and so I think I have a unique perspective. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
It helps me do this. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
It helps me think that there's going to be someone else out there | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
that has chosen to be a dad. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
That's quite a small sample? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
No, actually 2ml is about the regular volume. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
That's bang on the dot. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
That's a question we get asked quite often. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Can you do it on that? Is there enough in there? Yes. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
How often do you... into a pot and measure it?! | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
So people assume that there is a lot more of it than there is. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-Is not as if they could do anything about it if they wanted, anyway? -No. Probably not. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
'Nathan's sample is ready for analysis.' | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It's a lovely sample. There's some good morphology in the sperm. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
They're swimming really well. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
The concentration's quite nice as well. That's some nice sperm. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
There's no denying it. If you are a man and you've had a test done on your sperm, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
there'd be an extra spring in your step, wouldn't there, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
if you found out that you had very good sperm? | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Definitely. Men try to hide... | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
they always want to be the stalwart in the relationship, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
and to lend the... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
you know, the arm of comfort to their female mate. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
I've seen men absolutely break down in tears, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
and the woman be the stronger of the two. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
That's rare. It's usually the other way round. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
But even though men are stalwarts, stoical, stiff upper lip, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
when I tell them that they've got good sperm, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
there is definitely a sort of an aura comes about them, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
one of, sort of...well-being. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-So those are risks that you do need to be aware of. -Yeah. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
And obviously as you're going through your treatment, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
-we will talk you through all this again. -OK. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
When a couple begin the process of fertility treatment, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
the first thing they need to do is have a meeting with Sister Diane Ford, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
where she interrogates them about their lifestyle. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
In this case, it's Kerri and Mike Fraser. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
-Do you smoke at all? -No. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-What about alcohol? -Occasionally. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Would you say each day you have a drink? Or just a couple? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
-No, because I stopped. I've cut down. I've been good. -OK. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
-Drink alcohol? -Yeah. -How much would you say? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
About ten pints a week, something like that. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
-No, you don't! Ten pints a week?! -At the weekend... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
-So you'd say about ten? -About ten. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
I would advise that you do reduce that, because alcohol | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
can affect both the quality of eggs and the quality of sperm. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
-Yes. -OK. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
'These two are in their early 30s. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
'They've been trying for a baby for three years. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
'This is their first cycle of IVF treatment.' | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
-Because what we want is for you to go home with one healthy single baby. -Yes. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
But we cannot guarantee fertilisation, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
and we cannot guarantee pregnancy. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
-Are you clear? -Yes. I'm so excited. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I'm happy with everything you said. Ready to get going now. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
Well, good luck. Take care, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
don't forget, any queries, just give us a ring. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
-Brilliant. -All right? -Thanks very much. -No problem. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
-Bye! -Bye! | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
-All right, then, see you later. -OK, see you. Bye. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
'I arrange to meet up with Kerri and Mike in a few weeks' time, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
'when they return for the next stage of their treatment. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
'So far in my time in the Hewitt Centre, I had noticed that patients | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
'might have different reasons why they can't get pregnant, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
'but they all share a deep-seated biological desire to have a baby. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
'But one person stands out in demonstrating just how deep this desire runs.' | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
My name is Hannah. I'm one of the embryologists. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
And I've just come to speak to you before your egg collection. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
'Anne-Marie Brotherstone. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:11 | |
'She is 31, but has had two heart attacks in her short life.' | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Just before you go home, we'll see how many eggs have been collected. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
'Because of this untreatable heart condition, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
'a pregnancy could put her life at risk. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
'But even so, she wants a child so much, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
'she is prepared to go against the advice of doctors.' | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Have you got any questions you'd like to ask us? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
My mind's gone blank! No, I don't think so. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Anne-Marie does have significant medical issues. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
She has this cardiomyopathy, which people thought was serious enough | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
for her to be sterilised a number of years ago, and of course, obstetrics | 0:27:42 | 0:27:48 | |
changes and new technological advances, but nevertheless, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
her pregnancy, if she were to get pregnant, would still be risky. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
Do you feel very nervous? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
Very nervous. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
You've been waiting a long time, haven't you, for this? | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Are you nervous about your health, or the eggs? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
The eggs. Not my health! | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
-Really? -She's always been like that. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Have the doctors expressed to you the risks associated with it? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Just the risk to Anne-Marie, it's the risk... | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
there's a chance the baby might have the same heart condition as well. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
We were told that. But, I mean, we still think it's worth it, don't we? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
Yeah. I think the way we look at it is we don't want to get 40, 45, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:45 | |
and have any regrets and look back | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
and think we never done everything we possibly could, isn't it? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
If it doesn't work out, at least we can say we did try everything. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:59 | |
And hopefully not have any regrets. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Today, her eggs are being collected. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
But due to the risks, the procedure is being carried out | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
in a full operating theatre, and we aren't allowed to film. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
The drained fluid from Anne-Marie's follicles is rushed | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
back into the embryology lab, where the search begins to find her eggs. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
There are 21 test tubes of follicular fluid. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Hannah is already halfway through them. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Still no eggs so far. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Egg number one. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
-We've got our first egg? -Yeah. Really happy! | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Because there was... I didn't expect there to be eggs in every single one, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
but obviously, you do get a bit scared as you go through them, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
and you haven't seen a single one. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
But that egg looks really nice, so hopefully we will get a few more now. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
She continues to search through the remaining test tubes. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
The more eggs produced, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
the better the chance of creating a viable embryo. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Last tube. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
No. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
One it is. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
Although she found one egg, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Hannah is concerned it may not be mature enough to fertilise. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
If the egg doesn't fertilise, then that's the end of the line, but... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
We have one, and it does look nice. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
The procedure itself went well. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
The lining of the womb... I know that they scanned you previously... | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
Anne-Marie Brotherstone's procedure was carried out by Dr Lucy Coyne. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:07 | |
When we gave you the injections to help to stimulate the ovaries, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
in the hope of producing eggs, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Your response wasn't as good as we might have hoped for, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
so I think the fact that we've got an egg today is good news, really. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
The difficulty is obviously, if we create a nice embryo, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
we will have to freeze it, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
because of the fact the lining of the womb hasn't thickened up as we hoped it might have done. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-Right. -If you think of anything before we go, just let us know. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
-Yeah, OK. -Thanks very much. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
That was quite a difficult moment for Dr Coyne, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
because she's actually pregnant. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Before I was pregnant, I did actually wear normal clothes for clinics and things like that. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I started wearing scrubs quite early on, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
to try and hide the fact I was pregnant for as long as I could, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
-cos I found that a little bit awkward. -Did you? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-With the patients? -Yeah. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
I'd rather not be pregnant in this environment, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
unless I get to the stage I'm at now, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
where the last patient has seen me has just said, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
"Pass on your good vibes," cos she could tell I was pregnant. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
'One egg was enough for Anne-Marie Brotherstone.' | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Really good news, cos the embryo's fertilised! | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
So it carried on maturing, then? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Yeah, it carried on maturing last night, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
so it was injected a couple of hours late and it has fertilised. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
'Embryologist Hannah successfully got Anne-Marie's egg to fertilise. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
'But as an embryo, it needs to be frozen for a few weeks | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
'until the lining of her womb is ready.' | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
-Hello? -'Hi, is that Michael Brotherstone?' -Yeah, it is, yeah. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
-'Well, I've got brilliant news for you guys.' -Thank God. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
'The egg you have collected was mature, and it has fertilised.' | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
-Oh, brilliant. Absolutely fantastic. -'OK?' -Thank you! | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
-Lisa Henney? -Yes, thanks. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
It's nearly a week since Lisa Henney had her eggs collected, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
and five of them have fertilised into embryos. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Today, one of those embryos will be transferred to her womb. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
This is a key moment in their fertility journey, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
but it's also a critical moment for the staff, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
after weeks of careful treatment. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
It is a culmination of the embryologists' work, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
it's a culmination of the doctors and nurses' work, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
and it's also that crunch time for the patient. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Patients' awareness throughout infertility is high, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
but at the embryo transfer moment, it's really, really quite electric. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
OK, so we'll leave you to get changed. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
'Hilary will be carrying out the transfer.' | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
I'll come back. All right? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
-Do you like doing the embryo transfers? -Yeah, very much. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
-Is that a good job? -Yes, it is a very good job. I really like it. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
It's always a bit... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
..it always fills your stomach with trepidation, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
because it is something that's really important, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
so it is scary to some degree, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
but I think it's always good to be like that, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-because it is good to respect what you're doing, and not be blase. -No. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
-It's a key moment in their lives. -It is. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Never to be taken lightly. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
But first, in the lab, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Amy must decide which is the best of the five embryos. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
So, that one is looking all right. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
The cells are differentiating, that's probably what's going to become the inner cell mass, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
which is what becomes the baby. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
This one, you can see the difference between this one and the last one. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
Dark cells there, where it's maybe deteriorating a bit. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
OK. Cluster of cells in the middle. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Big undifferentiated one there, couple there, and it's quite dark, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
so four out of her five embryos | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
haven't managed to continue through the culture. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
They've started deteriorating. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
But that first one is looking good. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
That will definitely be the one that I transfer. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
On this occasion, it's a clear-cut decision, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
but it still carries massive responsibility. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
In the patient's eyes, they're all their babies. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
All the embryos are their babies. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
And they have to stand to one side and watch | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
while we do all the choosing, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
and while we have them all in the lab away from their bodies. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
So the responsibility is immense, with all of it, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
not just with the choosing of the embryos. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Especially, with the choosing of the embryos, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
it's a high responsibility, but it is all very intense. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
Still can't believe we're here. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
That's scary. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Do you think of it as a little person? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Um...yeah. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
If it all works out, do you think we could keep the dish it was made in?! | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
As a little souvenir? Imagine that, though. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
-There's your dish you were made in! -Aye, it would be good, that. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
-Would you like to do that? Keep the Petri dish? -Yeah! | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Yeah, you would, wouldn't you? you'd wear it round your neck on a chain. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
-Put some nuts in it! -When people come round! | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
"My sperm was in that dish!" | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
So, I've decided that I'm going to transfer that one in 05. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
I'm going to double-check everything, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
so I'm checking that there's definitely one in there for transfer. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
Then it needs to go back in the incubator until it's transferred. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-Hi! -Hi, I'm Amy. We've met before. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
-Yes, we have. -In the last cycle. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
So out of your five embryos, one of them is actually really nice, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
it looks like it's doing everything spot-on. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
-OK. Happy? -Yeah. -It's weird, isn't it? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
-SHE SOBS -Sorry! | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
You don't need to get upset, kid. Eh? It's fine. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
-It's a good thing. Isn't it? -They're happy tears? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
-Yeah, thank you. -Good. You're very welcome. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
You changed your mind?! | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
-You OK? -Yeah. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
I'm going to give the nurses a call. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
-I'll be back in a couple of minutes. -OK, thank you. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
You can look into it loads. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:48 | |
It's amazing how you try and put all of your emotions away, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
and deal with it, and think you're really strong, and... | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
You build up a rapport with some patients, and you don't with others, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
so certainly if you've seen them all the way through, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
so you've seen them at egg collection and you've seen them at transfer, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
and you've spoken to them on the phone, and you've tracked | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
the progress of the embryos, then yeah, I think you do get attached. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
And especially when it's a good... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
probably the extremes of the scale, when it's extremely good | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
and when it's extremely bad, you feel strong emotions for them. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
Point your knees. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
I know it goes against the grain, but point your knees out. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
So now I need to get you into position, please. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
-So I'm not just staring underneath. -It's all right. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
Thanks for that! | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
Can you go back a little bit, please? About an inch. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
That's grand. I think a little bit more. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
OK? And now come into the middle a little bit. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
A bit like the Golden Shot. Did you ever watch the Golden Shot years ago? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
-I think you'd probably be too young! -The Golden what? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
The Golden shot, and it would be up a bit, down a bit. Bernie the Bolt! | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
-I remember that. What was the bit? -Yeah, you would! | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
What did you get if you hit it? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
You'd get a prize, or you would go on to the next round. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
A lot of cash came out, didn't it? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
Oh, yes, I remember now, yeah! I remember that! | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
That's right. I was, gosh... I just remember Bernie the Bolt. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
-Would you like to see your embryo? -Yeah. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
OK, so if you just want to look up at the screen for me, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
I can show you both the embryos. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
OK. So there's your embryos there. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Doing everything they should for today. Well done. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
-GARETH: Where's it going? -Camera shy! | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
HANNAH: So that mass of cells at the top, that's the inner cell mass. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
-GARETH: Ah! -Gosh! | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
You'll feel a little bit of pressure as I open up | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
and look at the neck of the womb. OK? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
-You all right now? -Yeah, I'm fine. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
-Is it hurting you? -I'm OK. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
-I'm putting your embryo back now. Good luck to you both. -Thank you. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
HANNAH: Thank you. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
I'm just going to check now | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
and make sure the embryo has left the catheter, OK? | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
-Yeah, that's lovely and clear. The embryo's in. -Fantastic. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
-All the best, guys. -Thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
-Have you performed lots of those, Hilary? -Yes. Yes. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
GARETH: First one today! | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
It's a funny one though, because sometimes when I'm doing embryo transfers, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
I think, I'd just love to sing at this present time. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
I don't know. I usually... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
it usually does comes in a feeling. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
I'd love to sing. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
And I really think that most people would find that very inappropriate | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
if you just burst out singing! | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
They'd go... what on earth! | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
While you're down there between the women's legs? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Yes. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Yeah. Because it's a lovely thing, isn't it, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
putting someone's embryos in you. It's a lovely thing. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
If you'd like to look at the monitor, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
-I'll just show you your embryo now. -It's dying to get to me! | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Now it's the turn of Deborah Dickin, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
whose husband Matt had a low sperm count. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Who are you? -Deborah Dickin. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Very good. You haven't been placed... | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Becky's just going to check that the embryos have gone. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-That's fine, it's in. -That's it. It's all over. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
-Good luck, guys. -Thank you very much. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-OK, then, all the very best. -Thank you. -Cheers. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-I wish you the best of luck with it. -Thank you very much, Richard. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
-Time will tell, now! -Yes, time will tell. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
'On average, couples who go through fertility treatment | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
'have a 30 to 40% chance of success.' | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
I've seen it in patients' eyes when they come and see you, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
not overstating it, to see you as someone who performs miracles. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
No, well... | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Technically, in vitro fertilisation | 0:42:58 | 0:43:05 | |
is a routine procedure. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
It's how we manage the patients which is the difficult thing. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
The laboratory bit often is the easy bit. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
It's how we manage the patient's expectations. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Our contract to the patient is to say, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
"Well, we can't guarantee you babies, but we'll do our very best," | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
so that we try and avoid the scenario | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
that I think is the one we should all be striving to avoid, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:36 | |
and that is the patient who hasn't got any children, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
but is left in the situation where she says, or he says, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
"If only. If only I'd had the funding to have this treatment. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:47 | |
"If only we should have done that." | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
And that is what we've got to try and avoid. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
And that's what we try and do here. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
Ten days have passed, and it's time for the Henneys | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
and the Dickins to take their home pregnancy tests. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
For Gareth and Lisa, it's not good news. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
I don't know what to think, what to do next, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
so I don't think I want to do IVF again. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
But you said that, didn't you? But...it's early, isn't it? | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
-We're going to relax, aren't we, and take things... -Yeah. 38 this month. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:30 | |
-Are you? -Yeah! | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
You know I am. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
-So we'll make other plans now, and get over it. -We've got a good life. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:43 | |
No. We've got lots of pets, as you can see! | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
But no, we'll be OK. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
I think my mum and dad have avoided me this week, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
because I think they're stressed and upset, aren't they? | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
-Do you feel disappointed for them? -Yeah, I do. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
Because all they do is say what great parents we'll make, don't they? | 0:44:58 | 0:45:03 | |
We've got so many lovely kids in the family, haven't we? | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Our nephews are just... They're all so lovely. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Our time will come. I promise you. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
All the kids are great. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
They all love us to bits, don't they? | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
We've got good people around us. Everywhere we go, it's good people. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
Yeah. We're so lucky. We've got lots of lovely people in our lives. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:26 | |
We have. Mm-hmm. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
So we said we'd get a pram for the cat! | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
At Deborah and Matt's home, it's also sad news. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
It's hard for me, because I feel like I might never be a mum. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
I just want to have our own flesh and blood. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
-Hard to deal with. -Hmm. It is. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
When you have the embryo transfer, you see the egg, the embryo, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:09 | |
you fertilise that. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:10 | |
It's still me and Matthew, it's still been fertilised, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
and you think, well... | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
-You're creating a life, here. -Yeah, you're creating a life, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
and then you feel like it has been pulled from under you. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
-Nature's way, I suppose. -Cruel way. -Yeah. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
-A very cruel way, sometimes. -But... | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
I just want to have our own flesh and blood. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
Something that we've produced, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
and we can bring up our way. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
-And we will. -We will. We will. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
We've still got to be positive, because we've still got another go. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
-And it's just a waiting game again now. -Yeah. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
It's very difficult not to take it personally, but of course, sometimes | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
you have to try and distance yourself from those sort of emotions, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
because it can be quite detrimental | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
to your own health and well-being. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
Isn't it? | 0:47:19 | 0:47:20 | |
I came in halfway through that! | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
-Stress. -Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
Upset. Disappointed. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
Probably the same sort of feelings that they were feeling, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
but not to the same extent. Because it's their treatment. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
But we do that with all the patients. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
You feel elation when someone gets pregnant, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
and you feel disappointment when they don't. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
Because our job is to get them pregnant, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
and if we haven't done that for them, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
then in our eyes, we've...failed, really. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
But also, talking about being happy or being sad, then these have | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
got to be fleeting emotions for us, because we see so many people. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
If you got too attached... | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
and too emotionally involved with all of them, you would be... | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
-an emotional wreck coming to work! You'd be crying all the time! -Yeah. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
And that hardness comes with time. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Because when I started here, I found everything really difficult, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
and everything was like, why isn't it working? And... | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
But now, like Hannah says, you just have to feel the emotions, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
but you do have to remember what you're doing, and why you're here, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
and the other patients matter as well. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
Anne-Marie Brotherstone? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:27 | |
'All the patients I had met at the Hewitt Fertility Centre are desperate to have a baby, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
'but none more so than Anne-Marie Brotherstone, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
'who has a rare heart condition.' | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
-All right? -Hmm. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
-Nearly there. -Yeah. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
'She had just one egg. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
'It fertilised, but the embryo had to be frozen | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
'because her womb wasn't ready. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
'Now, two months later, she is back to have the embryo transferred. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
'The procedure is going to be performed by Jill.' | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
You've not got children, have you? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
-No. Got a cat! -You've got a cat? -Yes. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
How do you find working in this environment with people | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
who are all on the search for children? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
It's a difficult one to answer really. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
I've never wanted children. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
There was never that deep yearning to have them. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Yeah, but you might have thought, "I'm different to most women." | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
No! I'm not! | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
Well, are you not different to most women? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
-I might be different and special! -Yeah, I'm sorry! | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
-It's all right. It's fine. -I did not mean to sound like... | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
I know, and to be fair, I haven't actually faced a lot of | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
the kind of questions you'd expect, like, "Couldn't you have children?" | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
There are quite a few of us who are not in that situation, now, are we? | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
How many have you got? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
Three, and I've got a little granddaughter as well. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
So that's lovely. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
And hopefully I'll have some more grandchildren! | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
No, I... | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
always wanted children. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
I still have my career, and I love my job, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
and I always think I'm very lucky, because I've, you know, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
through the years of my nursing, I've seen some really sad scenarios. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:18 | |
You all right, Michael? you can sit down if you want. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
Hannah is the embryologist who has been at every stage | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
of the Brotherstones' journey. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
-And here's your embryo. Can you see that on the screen? -Yeah, perfect. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
That's magnified a few hundred times. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
The Brotherstones don't have any frozen embryos to fall back on. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
All their hopes are contained in this one catheter that Hannah carries. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:46 | |
Thank you. Thanks. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
It's sad. It's sad when they've only got one, and to them, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
that's their potential child. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:03 | |
That's sad. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
OK, Anne-Marie, the catheter's in place. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Has that caused you any pains at all? | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
No? Good. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:17 | |
Thank you. OK. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Now, Hannah's going to take the catheter and flush it, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
just to make sure the embryo has left, OK? | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
HANNAH: That's fine. The embryo's in. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
OK. Can you pop your legs down now? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
HANNAH: Well done. Very best of luck. MICHAEL: Thank you. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
-Hello! Here we are again! How are you? -My mind's blank at the minute. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
-I'm just in shock, I think! -What, about the fact that it survived? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
-I've got this far! -We've got to keep our fingers crossed now. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
See what happens. OK. Well, you've got my mobile if you need me. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
-OK. All the very best. MICHAEL: -Thanks very much for your help. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
See you soon. Bye. Cheers. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
How much hope do you have for them? | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
Well, I'm Scorpio. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
My cup is always half empty, so I'm a natural-born pessimist. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
Not a great deal. Not a great deal. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
She's got a lot of problems to face, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
with her cardiomyopathy as well. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
So I'd like to think... | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
we've certainly given her a chance, but how things will turn out, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
we'll find out in the fullness of time. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
None of us would be here doing this if we didn't think it was going to work some of the time. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
And every cycle you start, it's with hope, isn't it? | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
At least they can say, "I've done everything we can," | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
and what we have to say is, we've done everything we can, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
and certainly for the Brotherstones, on this particular cycle, we have. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
So it's out of our hands now. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
'In ten days' time, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
'the Brotherstones will carry out a home pregnancy test.' | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
We'll say goodbye to you then. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
-We'll be in touch? -Yeah. -All right. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
I'll give you a text when we're coming back in. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
-If we do come back in. -Yeah. -All right then. Best of luck. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
-Thanks very much for that. Speak to you soon. -Speak to you soon. -Bye. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
'There is one other couple I had met at my time at the Hewitt Centre | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
'who were desperate to have a baby.' | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
Big cough. SHE COUGHS | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
-Lovely. Are you guys ready? -Yeah. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
I'd first met Kerri and Mike Fraser a few weeks ago when they were | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
being quizzed by a nurse over their alcohol consumption. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Today, they too are back to have their embryo transferred. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
The embryo's here. We're ready to put it in. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
Here we go. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
-Have you read your white booklet of all your dos and don'ts? -Yes. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
Is there anything in that that doesn't make sense? | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
I really like chorizo sausage. Am I still OK to eat it? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
-You really like what?! -Chorizo sausage! Am I OK to eat it? | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
Cos it says about like Parma ham and all that. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
You know, I have never been asked that before! I don't know! | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
I would imagine it's fine. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
Because I have it, like, twice a week! | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
-All right, it's in. Good luck, guys. -Thank you. -Don't move your legs yet. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:30 | |
I had to ask about the chorizo sausage, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:31 | |
cos it's been playing on my mind! | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
-It's been bugging you, that, hasn't it? -They said don't have it. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
-But I cook it, though, don't I? -I'm not risking it. -I'll have it then! | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
My time was coming to an end at the Hewitt Fertility Centre. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
Good luck, love. With everything. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
Shortly before I leave, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
Dr Lucy Coyne has a buffet before she goes on maternity leave. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
I remember... Yeah, I remember... | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
I remember the interview. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
The first question was, who would you like to dinner? | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
Who would you invite to dinner? | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
Anybody you could invite ever, living or dead. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
The previous guy said, I think I'd invite Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
because he was a genius of the 19th century or whatever. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
So we asked the same to Dr Coyne, and I said, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
"Who would you invite you to your dinner party, anybody, living or dead." | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
She said, "I'd like Simon Cowell!" | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
-And she got the job? -That's my girl! | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
LAUGHING AND CHEERING | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
A few days later, I join Anne-Marie and Michael Brotherstone at home | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
for their pregnancy test. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
All right? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:49 | |
-You've got tissue all over your face. -I can't look at it. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
You're very good at offering Anne-Marie support, aren't you? | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
You have to be. It's... | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
There's not much we've been through really. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
The waiting, the appointments, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
we've both been quite upset times, haven't we? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
Just hard to take at the minute. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
-But we'll be all right, won't we? -Yeah. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
I had spent three months looking at the extraordinary work | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
that goes on here, and I had seen it through the eyes of the staff. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
I had learned that by intervening, these scientists and doctors | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
can profoundly change the course of people's lives. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
But at the same time, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
I had seen that nature ultimately will have its way. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
While at the Hewitt Centre, | 0:56:58 | 0:56:59 | |
I had met couples who did not have positive outcomes. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
But I think Charles Kingsland and his team | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
did give these unlucky patients something. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
He gave them hope. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
And in the case of Kerri and Mike Fraser... | 0:57:12 | 0:57:17 | |
Even more. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:18 | |
Yes! Yes! | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Oh, God! | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
Oh, brilliant! | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
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