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Down a dusty back street, in a rural Indian town, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
one house is home to 100 pregnant women. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
They are carrying babies they will soon hand over | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
to couples from around the world. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And it's all the work of Dr Nayna Patel. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
God is creating life, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
but God has appointed me to do that on this earth. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
She's the pioneer of a booming commercial surrogacy industry. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
For many couples worldwide, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
she offers their last hope of starting a family. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
But to her critics, she has commercialised childbirth | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
-and exploited the poor. -Am I doing something criminal? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
There were a lot of allegations that this is just a baby-making factory. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
With unprecedented access, we enter the world of Dr Nayna Patel, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
-her international clients... -He's so cute. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
..and the women inside her house of surrogates. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:14 | |
The town of Anand, far from the tourist trail | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
in the rural Indian state of Gujarat. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
It's previously only been known for its dairy production. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
But recently, an increasing number of visitors | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
from all over the world have been arriving in the town. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
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Dr Patel's fertility clinic in the centre of Anand is where | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
over the last decade she has created | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
and personally delivered hundreds of babies via IVF surrogacy. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
Australian Sam and his Serbian wife Jana have | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
arrived in town for the delivery of their first child. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
My wife is very emotional. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
It's a bit like the old days in Australia | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
where the parents were in the waiting room. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
45-year-old Jana has been unable to have a baby since severe illness, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
but commercial surrogacy is a criminal offence | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
where they live in Australia. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I was sick, and unfortunately... | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
we couldn't achieve the normal way. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
This was really... In Australia, we don't have this chance, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
and India is the country that I would recommend everyone to go to. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
I still remember the culture shock | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
when we arrived at the airport the first time we came. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
But the people are very friendly in India. Very nice. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
So you can't complain. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
WOMAN CRIES OUT | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Sam and Jana have paid a fee of around US28,000 | 0:03:56 | 0:04:02 | |
to Dr Patel's clinic for its services. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Their surrogate, Jyoti, is from a local village. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
For carrying and delivering the baby, she's been paid 8,000. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
It's a baby boy. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
It's finally happened. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
SHE SOBS, BABY CRIES | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
We can hear it crying. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Finally. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-After how many years? -11. -It's been a long one. 11 years, yeah. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
Everything is fine, Jyoti is fine, the baby is fine. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
We'll just show you the baby. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
You can hold your baby. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
-Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're so small! -That's amazing. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:22 | |
OK, let me show you. You can come with me. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
This is going to be a learning experience, doing all this. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
-Come, come with me. -The expert's going to show us. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
OK, we have to come this way. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
When you started, and now, what's the reaction been? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
I have faced criticism. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I am facing it, and I will be facing it, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
because this, according to many, is a controversial subject. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
There were a lot of allegations that this is just a business, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
this is just baby selling, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
a baby-making factory, and all these phrases used to hurt. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
These surrogates are doing the physical work, agreed, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
and they are being compensated for that. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
They know that there is no gain without pain. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
It's a journey of around two miles from the clinic | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
to the surrogate house, situated on the outskirts of Anand. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
With so many pregnant women under one roof, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
the house has its own matron. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
The property is divided into dormitories, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
sleeping up to 10 expectant surrogate mothers in each room. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
The women in the surrogate house have all their meals made for | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
and delivered to them. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
They are on a strict regime of vitamins and rest. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Women can be a surrogate through Dr Patel up to three times, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
and it's 28-year-old's Papiya's second time inside the house. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
28-year-old Vasanti has two children of her own, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
but is currently being employed to carry a Japanese couple's baby. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
The surrogate mothers have no genetic link to the babies | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
they carry. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
They are created as embryos at Dr Patel's clinic before being | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
implanted into their wombs. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Under one roof, you have a Japanese baby, British baby, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
American baby, all of them growing up under one world, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
and when they will be delivered, they will all have as a birth certificate | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
"born in Anand". | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Dr Patel works six days a week from her clinic. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
As well as the medical work, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
it is from here she liaises with her international clients | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
and keeps a watchful eye over the surrogate mothers' movements. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
This is typically a demand book that the surrogates send to me | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
from the Surrogate House. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
-So you have to go through that and say yes or no? -Yes or no. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
If I signature, it is sanctioned. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
If I pass a comment that, "No, she should not go," | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
or "she should only give this much money," then it is. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
Every day, about five to six. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
Today, one has asked for 1,000 rupees advance | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
to open a bank account. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
Another has asked that, "My son is in class five, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
"I need to go home for 10 days for his exams." | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Third one has asked for 2,000 rupees for her husband, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
he needs it for something. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
And what kind of things would you refuse? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Oh, I mean... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Going home for just some vague reason where | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
I feel that she will not be able to take care of herself, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
like there is some celebration and dancing going on, then | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I would suggest, "Please, do not go, because it will not be good for you." | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Amy has just flown into India from Texas. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
She received an e-mail 24 hours earlier | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
saying her son had been born via a surrogate. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Go down here? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
She's here to see him for the first time. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Holy moly. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
If we don't get run over first, we'll get there. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
This way? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Having unsuccessfully tried to hold a pregnancy | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
over the last 10 years, 49-year-old Amy and her husband | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
opted to try surrogacy. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
I just want to see him. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
Because of course you want to make sure the baby is OK. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
She did tell us to go this way, right? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
The surrogate mother, chosen by Dr Patel, and whom Amy has never met, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
is now somewhere in a nearby neonatal hospital ward | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
with her newborn baby. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
Did she say here? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Hi. I'm Amy. Someone gave birth to my child. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
The baby is in... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Where is that? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
Your baby was here at that time. But now he is with the nanny. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:25 | |
-OK. -Your baby is with the nanny on the second floor. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Hi. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:36 | |
Oh! Oh! Hey there. Oh! | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
He's so cute. So cute. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
(Little fingers.) | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
Oh, my God. I can't believe it. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Surrogate. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Surrogate. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Hi. Hi. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
It's beautiful. Thank you. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
I just...I can't believe I'm holding him. 10 years waiting for you. Huh? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:30 | |
Definitely worth it. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
-She's telling, you are happy? -Am I happy? Yes, more than happy. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
Ecstatic. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
-Does she speak English? -No. -No. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Tell her she's giving me a huge gift and I cannot thank her enough. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
All right, I'll let you have him back. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
I'm going to go home and sleep | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
and then I will see you tomorrow morning. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
-So you can take this, then you can come tomorrow. -He's so cute. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
He's so small, he's so cute! | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Commercial surrogacy has become a booming industry | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
across the whole of India in the last decade. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Now estimated to be worth £1 billion a year. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Paying a surrogate here is legal and costs only a fifth what it would | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
in the USA, one of the few other countries where it is permitted. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
India has one third of the world's poorest people. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Labourers and farm workers earn under £10 a week. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
It means there is no shortage of applicants | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
to become a surrogate at Dr Patel's clinic. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Even if they aren't totally sure what it entails. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
62-year-old British doctor Michael and his 33-year-old Russian wife | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Veronica are at the first stage of the surrogacy process - | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
having their embryos created by the clinic. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Unfortunately, I do not have the possibility of conceiving | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
as I'm missing one ovary and one tube due to the abnormality. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
I was born like that, as we say, so I didn't know until I was 22. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:34 | |
That persuaded me that my last chance | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
of trying to have my own child is to use a surrogate. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:47 | |
As a physician, I find it somewhat ironic | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
that some days as a family doctor in my office, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I see poor individuals who are pregnant | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
and wish to go the route of terminating that pregnancy, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
whilst other times during the day you may find individuals | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
who deeply wish to be pregnant and are unable to. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
It's the fortunes of life. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
When I came to the clinic, the outside looks very ordinary. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
But that hides the interior, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
where the science is quite professional, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
their procedures are sterile | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and no different from what I'm used to in the Western world. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Many women, they all suffer | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
because they don't have this possibility to become mothers. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
And they would do anything, like I did, because we will be mothers, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
and we will have our children who will make their children. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:48 | |
I still think that we will be blessed with twins. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Potential life begins in the laboratory via IVF. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
Michael's sperm is injected into eggs collected from Veronica. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Our mind was always in the laboratory with the little ones. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
For me, they are already live. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
They are waiting for that moment to be placed in a place where | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
they can grow and then they can be taken out and say, "Hello, Mummy!" | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
If the resulting embryos continue to grow, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
they become known as blastocysts. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Today, Michael and Veronica have come to see theirs, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
in the hope they are good enough | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
to be placed inside a surrogate and create a pregnancy. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
It's like my whole future is decided today, right now. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
You have five blastocysts. One, two, three, four, five. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
Five, I can see! | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
-Looks like Daddy. -They're very good. So we will transfer one. -Only one? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:11 | |
No, two, please. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
-The others, we will freeze it. -Two. Please. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
-OK, we transfer this, and this we freeze. OK? -Yes, please. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
Thank you so much. They look so good. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
All five blastocysts were looking perfectly healthy, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
so they will implant two, and three they will freeze. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
It's amazing to see life developing at that early stage, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
and here in India, you know, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
we've had to come all this way to experience this, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and we're just absolutely overwhelmed. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
These two, I have my names already. Alexander and Katarina. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
-I have the names since two years now, so it's kind of... -Sentimental. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:58 | |
..sentimental, but I had those names for two years. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Always saying I will definitely one day have these little ones. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
From a scientific point of view, I mean, one is not a 100% guarantee, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
so, if you have two, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
-it just improves your chances of at least having one child. -Yeah. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Once the blastocysts have been chosen, Dr Patel places them | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
inside a surrogate, in the hope they continue to grow inside her womb. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:27 | |
We take the name of God, give a positive result with all prayers. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
We put the embryos inside the uterus. Yes. Great. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:41 | |
Here, the embryo has gone inside. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Two weeks from now, there will be a blood test, which will indicate | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
whether they have taken the embryos and got pregnant or not. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
Whatever is the outcome, positive or negative, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
the couple will be informed either by e-mail or on the phone, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
and if the pregnancy is confirmed, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
then from time to time the antenatal progress of the surrogate and baby | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
is informed to the couple. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Tomorrow, we're flying back to our home, back to our daily life, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:23 | |
to work. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
We are hopeful things will work out, but, again, nothing in life is 100%. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
-Thank you. -See you tomorrow. -Take care. Bye. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Surrogacy in India may be relatively cheap and legal, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
but returning home with your newborn can be | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
fraught with difficulties, depending on the rules in your own country. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
A baby born in India by a surrogacy can be classed by some legal systems | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
as having no nationality or parents. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
A hotel room in the centre of town has been home to baby boy Ceron | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
and his Canadian mum Barbara | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
since he was born by surrogacy two months ago. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
They are waiting for official approval to return to Toronto, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
where her husband has had to carry on working. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Mousy's one of your favourites. Look. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
Mousy's one of your favourites. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
But these few more months are nothing for Barbara. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Aged 53, she's been trying for a child for decades. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
For me, this has been a 30-year journey. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
We wanted - we got married, and we wanted four children - | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
we wanted a whole houseful because we came from big families. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
And it was like my whole identity, everything I even dreamed of, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:57 | |
was put on hold. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
It's so hard on a couple, because my husband used to say that, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
when I was on all the drugs, etc, and then if it wouldn't work, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
or if I would have a miscarriage, he would say, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
"It feels like a funeral around here every month." | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
And he was right, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:20 | |
because I was in mourning each time that it didn't work. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
And... So, obviously, as I went through a lot of medical problems, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:33 | |
eventually had to have a hysterectomy, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and then of course I had to face the fact | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
that the biological journey was over, and then it hit me, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
why am I saying that the biological journey is completely shut down? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
Because it doesn't have to be for my husband. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Barbara was unable to produce eggs or carry a child. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
So Dr Patel was able to source an Indian woman to donate her eggs | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
and a separate woman to be the surrogate mother. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
My son is half Indian, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
so he's going to be encouraged to explore that whole part of himself. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:11 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
What's going on is he wants milk, and of course she's not here. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Hang on, honey. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-KNOCKING -Oh, that may be Edan. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
This is Edan. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Edan, the surrogate mother who carried Ceron, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
is now employed by Barbara to be a nanny, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and to continue to feed him with her breast milk. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
He is hungry, he was just getting a little uncomfortable. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
Hey, little man. Oh, look who's here! One of your favourite people! | 0:25:37 | 0:25:44 | |
Look! Oh, he really wants to sit up, doesn't he? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
Edan comes two times a day to actually nurse Ceron, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
and when she is here, just because she adores him so much, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
you know, she will play with him a little bit. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Not all surrogates get attached to the babies like she has. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Some surrogates give birth and then they go their separate ways. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
But we have done that because we wanted that relationship - | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
we chose it, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
because what could be wrong with more than one woman loving my son? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:27 | |
Smile, little man. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Despite the close relationship developing, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
once the paperwork has been processed, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Barbara and baby Ceron will be flying home to Canada, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
8,000 miles from surrogate mother Edan. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
In the Surrogate House, Sundays are family days, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
where the surrogate mothers have a chance to spend time | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
with their own children and husbands. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Vasanti is waiting for her husband to arrive. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
How did your involvement with surrogacy begin? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
Well, I was doing IVF since 1999, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
but I never thought about surrogacy. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
And when this first case where a female was born without a uterus | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
and they asked me for a surrogate, we could not find a single surrogate, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:03 | |
not only in Gujarat, but any part of India. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
A pair of twins who were carried in their grandmother's womb | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
as she acted as surrogate... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
..miracle babies were born in India to their own grandmother | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
because their natural mum was unable to carry them in her womb. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
There was a lot of attention given to this whole case, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
and that is how there were so many couples started approaching me. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
And that is how we got the idea | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
of starting this whole programme of surrogacy. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Why is it India that's leading the way? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
There are many factors contributing | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
in making India the surrogacy hub of the world. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
First is the medical technology that the Western world trusts now. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
Second is the cost. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
The third is the guidelines that are favourable. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
The surrogate has no right over the baby | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
or no duties towards the baby, so that makes it easier. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Whereas, in the Western world, most of the places, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
the birth mother is considered as the mother | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
and the birth certificate will have her name. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
All these put together makes India a very favourable destination | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
for doing surrogacy. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
And the poverty? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
The poverty part, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
I would say that there are so many needy females in India. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
The food, shelter, clothing, and medicine - healthcare - | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
is not free for all in India. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
People have to fend for themselves. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Like most surrogate babies born at Dr Patel's clinic, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Sam and Jana's son has spent his first days | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
under watch on a neonatal ward. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
It's so busy. Everybody wants to see the babies. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
There's about probably 10, 15 babies in there. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
They don't allow more people in the room. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
It seems to be a bit like an assembly line in here. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Ours was the last baby, now it's the second last, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
now it's the third last in that row. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
The baby will be here on Monday released from the hospital. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
We are paying today the last bills. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
So the baby on Monday, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
-the baby will be all our baby. -That's right. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
Even after Sam and Jana have collected their child, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
it will be some time | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
before they are able to return with him to Australia. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
We are waiting now for birth certificate. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
It will be done Tuesday. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
We have to ask for ten birth certificates, believe it or not. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
It's got to do the entire life. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
-Everyone seems to be... -A little bit surprised about it. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
But, fair enough too, because you wouldn't want to have to try to get | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
another copy at some point in the future. Better to ask for more. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
Shoes! | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
I went first yesterday. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
You can go first today. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
This is the most happy I've seen her for a long time. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Ah, she's saying she thinks he's going to have dimples, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
which wouldn't surprise, yeah. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
I don't know. She looks so natural, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
I think she might make the nanny redundant very quickly. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
It is said that any human being is born with two basic instincts. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
One to survive and one to reproduce. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
Here, when we do surrogacy, we have a couple who want to procreate, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
so the surrogate comes into picture who wants to survive | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
and here, by doing surrogacy, she gets the financial help | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
and her instinct to survive is fulfilled. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
By denying surrogacy, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
we are basically depriving these people of their basic instincts | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
rather than helping them go ahead | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
with their dream of living a good life | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
and their dream of having a child. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Each fortnight, Dr Patel visits the surrogate house | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
to check on the women's progress and hear of any concerns. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
The surrogate mothers are paid in a strict system of instalments. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
At six months pregnant, Vasanti has now received two payments of 600. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
The surrogate get on an average 8,000 US dollars. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
If it is twins, 10,000 US dollars. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
If she aborts within three months, she gets the 600 US dollars. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
If it's more than three months, then it's 1,200. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:47 | |
After six months, whatever happens, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
whether the baby survives or whatever, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
the surrogate gets the full payment of 8,000 US dollars. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
What happens if there's abnormalities? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Look, even if it's handicapped, the contract says that the couple | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
has to accept the baby. The surrogate has no duty towards the baby, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
so the couple will have to accept the baby, even if it is handicapped. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
But now, with the technology, most of the malformations can be picked up. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Though some can be a surprise. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
Once we had a baby with multiple malformations | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
which was detected around 18 weeks, and the baby was terminated. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
As well as being in charge of all things medical and financial | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
at the clinic, Dr Patel also likes to influence how the surrogates | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
spend their fees after they've been paid. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Mina. Mina does not have a bank account. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
So she has come today. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
I will be signing this paper | 0:37:51 | 0:37:52 | |
so that she can open an account across. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
So these are the typical pictures of the surrogates, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
how they are using their money, we've got files of them, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
whether they have done a fixed deposit | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
or whether they have bought a house of their own. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:12 | |
And why do you do that? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
So that we want to see that they are being educated in the right way | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and they utilise this hard-earned money in the right way. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Because they do not understand the value of the money. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
This money should be put to the right use. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
Some people might think they should be able to do what they want | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
with their money. So why are you doing that? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
Yes. They are doing what they want with the money, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
but once the money is there | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
and there will be someone who would ask for a loan | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
or they will use the money in the wrong way. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
That is what we do not want. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
Oh, pretty colours. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Barbara and her newborn son Ceron | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
have now spent three months living in their hotel. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
Ooh, we love the colours in India! | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
They've started to become familiar faces around the town. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Oh! What could you show us today in some little boys' clothes? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
We need light clothes for India. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Do you have any others that are really, really cute | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
like the elephant and the zipper one that I got last time? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
I think couples that come here have longed for children for so long, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
when we get these little ones in our arms, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
we treasure every single moment. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
We're going to be in the shade in just a second. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
We're going to go look at the pretty flowers. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
Want to smell the flowers? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
Mm-mm-mm! | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
There's some little puppies... | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
under the slide! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Num-num-num-num-num. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Other people might say, well, some people are | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
just destined not to have children. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
You know, is it a God-given right to have a child? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
That is...it's such a difficult question to really process. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
When people say, you know, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:47 | |
if you have all these medical problems | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
then you just weren't meant to have a child. Um... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
You know, people are born with problems with their eyes, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
people are born as diabetics. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
And are they not meant to have corrective eyeglasses? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
Are they not meant to have insulin? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
I mean, we all have certain things that we have to bear, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
and ours is infertility. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
So why, since it's a medical issue, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
are we not able to have medically corrective procedures | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
that enable us to then lead | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
as close to a normal life as possible? | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
So...why didn't you adopt? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
After I had my hysterectomy, then we really thought that | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
that was the way. But we had so many hoops to jump through | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
for domestic and international adoption. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Home studies to be done by social workers, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
psychiatric reports, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Interpol, you know, clearance. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
And also you are going to usually get a child much older. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:50 | |
To be honest, most of those babies are parents of alcoholics, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
drug addicted people | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
or any other number of problems. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
So we both decided that we would even remain childless | 0:41:59 | 0:42:05 | |
before we would choose to have | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
a foetal alcohol or a drug addicted child. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
You know, that was not our vision of our family | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
and of our child. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
And really we're looking to fulfil the... | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
what our dream family was going to be. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Amy has come to collect her newborn baby son Christopher | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
and return home with him to Texas. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
As commercial surrogacy is also legal in parts of the States, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
American clients like Amy | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
can return much quicker than other nationalities. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
-Are you ready? -Yes, I am. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
Have you learned everything? How to give milk, how to make milk. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
-Everything? -I have already-made milk with me! | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
-OK... -So just a nipple and... | 0:43:02 | 0:43:03 | |
-OK, OK, OK. -Yes. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
So you can take home. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
For surrogate mum Hanifa, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
it's time to say goodbye to the baby she's carried. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
Hello. It's OK? | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
Everything's OK. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
He's so peaceful when he sleeps. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:16 | |
It's almost like you just want to leave him. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Only 26 hours on the plane and you'll be home. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
Aw-w! | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
Five star French cuisine. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
Yeah, he's sleeping. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
He's got it in his mouth but he's not sucking on it. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
All right, thank you. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Calm? He's calm? Yes, good. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
OK, here we go. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:15 | |
-Thank you so much. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
Excuse me. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:32 | |
Definitely, when you carry a child for nine months, there is a bonding. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
As a mother, I would say that, yes, there is a bonding | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
with the baby that you are carrying. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:08 | |
And there's no denying... | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
it's painful. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
I would say that it's not really painful | 0:46:12 | 0:46:18 | |
for 95% of the surrogates. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
Only, I would say, 5%. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
So far, I have delivered 500 surrogates. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
I would say only two surrogates | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
had got a little bit of a psychological problem, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
for 10 to 12 days only, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
where they remembered the baby. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
Home, for Vasanti, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
is one room shared amongst seven. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
With the money from surrogacy, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
they're building themselves a larger home, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
far from the villagers that know and disapprove | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
of what Vasanti's done. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
Dr Patel's modern home sits a few miles from the clinic. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
She's had to ensure her house is well protected, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
having received death threats due to her work. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
She lives here with her own family. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
Husband Hitesh helps run the surrogacy business. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
We were introduced in medical college. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
There was a dance programme. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
And she had more experience in dance than us, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
we were all beginners. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:38 | |
So we were supposed to give a stage show | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
and a few of the people, friends, they introduced her to us | 0:50:41 | 0:50:47 | |
and she was managing this show. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
So that's how I came to meet her. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
MUSIC STARTS | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
SHE LAUGHS I danced for my daughter's wedding... | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
three years back! | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
My plan is to hand over the practice and the clinic | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
to my son who is...and his fiancee, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
both of them are planning to do gynaecology | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
and they are waiting for their postgraduate admissions. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
A lot of people would be expecting a lot of things out of me | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
and there'll definitely be some pressure. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Let's see if I can withstand that and come through. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
My son, initially, when he was young, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
and there is an article in the newspaper, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
the first thing he will ask, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
"Is it a positive article or a negative article?" | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
One of the very famous magazines in India, The Week - | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
in 2009, had "25 Most Controversial Indians" | 0:52:00 | 0:52:06 | |
and I was one of them. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
I mean, the title was | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
You May Love Them, You Can Hate Them But You Cannot Ignore Them. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
And that is when...when they read all this, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
they would want to know why you are the controversial person | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
and why there is something wrong about it. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
No, no. You have to take it with a pinch of salt. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
You always are going to get some negativity. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
Why is it controversial, in your opinion? | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
In my opinion, people may think | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
that a couple cannot go that far to have a baby - | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
asking somebody to keep the baby in her womb for nine months | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
rather than that they should accept childlessness. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
But I initially really debated. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
And I had sleepless nights, also. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
I would get up in the middle of the night. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
It was tough to get going. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
First of all, initially when I started, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
there was no awareness about what is surrogacy, what is IVF, also. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
There was so much of criticism from the medical fraternity. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
People used to shy away from me that, "Oh, she's doing surrogacy." | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
Doctors saying that this procedure of surrogacy | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
is unethical or immoral or it's exploitation. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
And it bothers you. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
To a certain extent, it hurts you, also. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
And there are so many hypocrites all around | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
who would themselves be doing it | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
but openly criticising this procedure. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
That hurts you even more. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
'I still want to work for another ten years. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
'And the success stories of each couple and each surrogate | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
'keeps me going.' | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
Having had blastocysts placed inside her two weeks earlier, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
28-year-old Papiya is about to have a pregnancy test. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
If it's positive, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
it will be the second time she's been a surrogate mother. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
INDISTINCT SPEECH | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
For hopeful parents, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
the blood test can be the difference between starting a family or not. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
For surrogates like Papiya, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
it can mean her going home today with a small fee of 75 | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
or in nine months' time with 8,000. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
At Dr Patel's clinic, the surrogates receive regular check-ups, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
the results of which are e-mailed to her clients. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
Dr Patel has now received news on Michael and Veronica's attempt | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
at starting a family through surrogacy. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
This is that lovely couple who has gone through a lot, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
tried everything possible. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
A very jolly couple. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
Their attitude was very positive. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
Veronica, when she had come over here, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
she said that she had always dreamt | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
that she would be having twins one day. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
For overseas clients, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
the news of whether they're to become a family | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
is sent via e-mail. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
The Beta HCG count was high so we were expecting twins. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:10 | |
And when we are doing her scan and seeing the twins, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:15 | |
We feel it's so really wonderful that her dream is being fulfilled. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:22 | |
How does it feel to be the person responsible for that? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
I would say it's not one person, but it's a team which is responsible. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
But it gives a feeling of great joy | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
and I would say, most importantly, job satisfaction. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
It's Vasanti's last day in the surrogate house | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
before she's moved to the clinic. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
Her children, who believed she was being treated for trapped wind, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
have joined her. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
The clinic is full of other expectant surrogate mothers | 0:59:24 | 0:59:28 | |
but a free bed is finally found for Vasanti. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:32 | |
INDISTINCT SPEECH | 0:59:32 | 0:59:36 | |
Have you ever regretted a case? | 0:59:46 | 0:59:48 | |
Once in a while, yes, when I feel that... | 0:59:52 | 0:59:54 | |
Mostly, I am being more... | 0:59:54 | 0:59:57 | |
..considering about the surrogate. | 0:59:58 | 1:00:01 | |
Once in a while, I have come across a case where the couple would say | 1:00:01 | 1:00:04 | |
"We don't even want to look at her." | 1:00:04 | 1:00:06 | |
Then you feel hurt, that "Why did I do for them?" | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
Had I known that they would do like this, I would have never done it. | 1:00:10 | 1:00:13 | |
Because money does not matter that much to the surrogate | 1:00:13 | 1:00:16 | |
as the love and the feeling that she gets. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:18 | |
It's just two sentences, that's all. | 1:00:18 | 1:00:20 | |
In a town centre hotel, | 1:00:25 | 1:00:26 | |
Barbara's surrogate, Edan, has been visiting baby Ceron | 1:00:26 | 1:00:31 | |
twice a day for the last few months. | 1:00:31 | 1:00:33 | |
It's the second time she's been a surrogate mother | 1:00:33 | 1:00:36 | |
but never before has she spent so long with the child. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:39 | |
With Barbara hoping to return home in the next few weeks, | 1:01:55 | 1:01:58 | |
Edan's time with baby Ceron is running out. | 1:01:58 | 1:02:02 | |
It's just now, when she starts to process losing him | 1:02:03 | 1:02:06 | |
that it's difficult. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:08 | |
And I think in these coming weeks, | 1:02:08 | 1:02:10 | |
because we're probably only here about another month, um, | 1:02:10 | 1:02:14 | |
it'll become a little more difficult for Edan. For us both, really. | 1:02:14 | 1:02:19 | |
And we've already talked a little bit about easing out of the nursing | 1:02:21 | 1:02:27 | |
and easing out of the time with her | 1:02:27 | 1:02:29 | |
so that it isn't just suddenly gone, | 1:02:29 | 1:02:34 | |
in fairness to both her but also obviously the baby. | 1:02:34 | 1:02:37 | |
At a nearby spa resort, Australian Sam and his wife Jana | 1:02:48 | 1:02:53 | |
now have the paperwork to return home with their son, | 1:02:53 | 1:02:56 | |
a process that took 37 days from his birth. | 1:02:56 | 1:03:00 | |
You live your whole life to have children. | 1:03:02 | 1:03:05 | |
You live your whole life to have children, | 1:03:05 | 1:03:08 | |
otherwise it's not complete. | 1:03:08 | 1:03:09 | |
Good times are going to be ahead and that's for sure. | 1:03:09 | 1:03:12 | |
Look forward to the baby growing up, | 1:03:12 | 1:03:14 | |
seeing the little changes every day. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:17 | |
You want to get back home, you want to start your life. | 1:03:17 | 1:03:20 | |
You pretty much aren't really starting your life in... | 1:03:20 | 1:03:24 | |
in blissful surroundings, as nice as it is, in this resort. | 1:03:24 | 1:03:28 | |
OK, with the squirrels and the nice mango trees, | 1:03:28 | 1:03:31 | |
the swimming pool behind you... | 1:03:31 | 1:03:33 | |
Just looking forward to going back | 1:03:33 | 1:03:36 | |
and just having all the creature comforts back home, | 1:03:36 | 1:03:40 | |
like the flatscreen TV. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:43 | |
And it'd be nice to have a thick-cut steak | 1:03:43 | 1:03:47 | |
which we have back home. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
So, I mean, that's the goal | 1:03:49 | 1:03:51 | |
of anybody who has a baby born in surrogacy here, | 1:03:51 | 1:03:53 | |
is to get home. | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
We wouldn't come to India, probably, for any other reason. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:58 | |
Can you see why it's controversial? | 1:04:02 | 1:04:04 | |
I would feel that what controversial a couple may feel... or society may feel is, | 1:04:06 | 1:04:11 | |
that the surrogate is being used, | 1:04:11 | 1:04:13 | |
but I feel that each and every person in this society | 1:04:13 | 1:04:17 | |
is using one or the other person to go bigger. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:20 | |
Whether it's a corporate house, whether it's glamour world, | 1:04:20 | 1:04:23 | |
whether it's politics. | 1:04:23 | 1:04:26 | |
Nobody is spared. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:28 | |
It's a cruel world. | 1:04:28 | 1:04:29 | |
And here, there is nothing like that. | 1:04:29 | 1:04:32 | |
Yes, the surrogate is giving her uterus, | 1:04:32 | 1:04:35 | |
or being used by a couple to have a baby. | 1:04:35 | 1:04:39 | |
But that you do when you employ a maid. | 1:04:39 | 1:04:41 | |
That you do when you employ a labourer to do your task for building a house, etc. | 1:04:41 | 1:04:46 | |
In the surrogate house, Papiya is waiting for the result of her blood test | 1:04:50 | 1:04:54 | |
to see if she has successfully become pregnant. | 1:04:54 | 1:04:58 | |
If she hasn't, she will have to leave the house today | 1:04:58 | 1:05:02 | |
with only a 75 fee. | 1:05:02 | 1:05:03 | |
OK, thank you, madam. | 1:05:20 | 1:05:21 | |
After four months stuck in India, | 1:05:46 | 1:05:48 | |
Barbara and baby Ceron's paperwork has been processed. | 1:05:48 | 1:05:53 | |
Her husband Michel has joined them before they return to Canada. | 1:05:53 | 1:05:57 | |
I think the first sight I got of him was the back of his head, | 1:05:57 | 1:06:02 | |
so that wasn't the biggest thrill, | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
it was when he turned around and I saw his eyes | 1:06:05 | 1:06:08 | |
that things began to light up! | 1:06:08 | 1:06:10 | |
Every time I saw his face on the computer screen, | 1:06:10 | 1:06:13 | |
I just wanted to be here, of course. | 1:06:13 | 1:06:16 | |
And be with them. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:17 | |
We just want to get him home | 1:06:19 | 1:06:21 | |
and continue along our happy family journey | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
and hopefully be adding another brother or sister for Ceron | 1:06:24 | 1:06:29 | |
if we're blessed again. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
Having used only two of their blastocysts trying for baby Ceron, | 1:06:33 | 1:06:38 | |
Barbara and Michel have three more frozen in storage at the clinic. | 1:06:38 | 1:06:43 | |
Before they leave for Canada, Barbara and Michel are meeting | 1:06:47 | 1:06:51 | |
a prospective surrogate for their potential new baby, | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
introduced to them by Dr Patel's husband, Hitesh. | 1:06:54 | 1:06:58 | |
-OK, Barbara. We are meeting your new surrogate. -Yes. | 1:06:59 | 1:07:04 | |
-Her name is Duksha. -Luksha. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:06 | |
-Duksha. D, D. -Nice. | 1:07:06 | 1:07:09 | |
-Duksha. -Luksha. | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
-D for donkey. -Blud. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:13 | |
D for donkey. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:15 | |
-Where's the D? -In the beginning! | 1:07:15 | 1:07:17 | |
-Oh, Duksha! OK. -Yeah. | 1:07:17 | 1:07:20 | |
And that's the husband, Sanjay. | 1:07:21 | 1:07:24 | |
Hi. That's a common name, yeah. | 1:07:24 | 1:07:27 | |
-And they have two children, as you can see. -Ha-ha! | 1:07:27 | 1:07:30 | |
-Two boys. -Yes. -One is seven and one is four. | 1:07:30 | 1:07:34 | |
Ah, OK. | 1:07:34 | 1:07:35 | |
-No, it's their first time. -Uh-huh. | 1:07:38 | 1:07:40 | |
-She has not been a surrogate before. -OK. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:43 | |
And how old is she, may we ask? | 1:07:43 | 1:07:45 | |
-Yeah, I was just coming to that, she's 26 years old. -Wow! | 1:07:45 | 1:07:48 | |
-Did you say 20? -Six. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:52 | |
26? Wow, and these kids. | 1:07:52 | 1:07:54 | |
She got married at a young age, very young. | 1:07:55 | 1:07:57 | |
-But she's young and strong enough. -Yes. -I can't see her standing up, | 1:07:57 | 1:08:02 | |
but I think she's a good enough size | 1:08:02 | 1:08:05 | |
that if it was twins, she would be... | 1:08:05 | 1:08:08 | |
There's no problem. She had no problem. | 1:08:08 | 1:08:11 | |
She delivered the kids at full nine months. | 1:08:17 | 1:08:20 | |
Do you know what their weights were? His family is big babies. | 1:08:20 | 1:08:24 | |
So, er, he was seven and a quarter, one month early. So... | 1:08:24 | 1:08:30 | |
So he would be bigger than these. | 1:08:30 | 1:08:33 | |
We have medically and psychologically assessed her | 1:08:33 | 1:08:37 | |
-and she's completely... -The thing for us, we... | 1:08:37 | 1:08:41 | |
We did say you're Christian, right? | 1:08:41 | 1:08:43 | |
They are Christian. | 1:08:43 | 1:08:45 | |
Edan behind you is my surrogate for this little guy, | 1:08:45 | 1:08:48 | |
and she's Christian as well and we just felt better with that. | 1:08:48 | 1:08:53 | |
Oh, you have to talk too, apparently. | 1:08:57 | 1:08:59 | |
Do you have anything in that head? | 1:08:59 | 1:09:01 | |
-He wants you to know he would like a sister this time. -Yes, let's see. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:05 | |
Right, so you are happy and satisfied with her, Barbara? | 1:09:18 | 1:09:21 | |
Absolutely, yeah, no problems at all. Yeah, she's good and solid enough to handle. | 1:09:21 | 1:09:26 | |
-That's good. -You know, some surrogates are so tiny, so petite. | 1:09:26 | 1:09:30 | |
And with our structures, we need to make sure... | 1:09:30 | 1:09:33 | |
It's important that the first meeting vibes are positive. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:36 | |
-Very good, yeah, they're very positive. -It's the important thing. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:40 | |
Nice to meet you. | 1:09:40 | 1:09:42 | |
Hey, little guy, Good to meet you. | 1:09:42 | 1:09:46 | |
We'll see you again. Take care. We pray for you, eh? | 1:09:46 | 1:09:50 | |
We pray for you in the year, and for your wife. OK? | 1:09:50 | 1:09:54 | |
No, I think they're lovely. | 1:09:55 | 1:09:57 | |
I can see that. | 1:09:57 | 1:09:59 | |
-Shall we go? -Yes, I think so. -You can follow, you can come with us. -Come, little man. | 1:09:59 | 1:10:05 | |
She wants to spend every moment possible with him | 1:10:09 | 1:10:12 | |
-these last two days. -I can understand. | 1:10:12 | 1:10:14 | |
OK, little man. Happy, happy, little boy. | 1:10:17 | 1:10:20 | |
OK, let's have it. Yeah. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:21 | |
One more, the end of a 31-year journey. | 1:10:26 | 1:10:31 | |
I definitely consider myself as a feminist. | 1:12:09 | 1:12:14 | |
Right from my childhood days, I was brought up in such a way | 1:12:14 | 1:12:17 | |
that just because you are a female, you cannot do this | 1:12:17 | 1:12:21 | |
or you can do this, is not existing because my mother herself - | 1:12:21 | 1:12:25 | |
I'm talking about 40 years back - | 1:12:25 | 1:12:27 | |
was a very strong feminist. | 1:12:27 | 1:12:29 | |
And that is what keeps me going | 1:12:29 | 1:12:31 | |
and that is what I explain to my surrogates, | 1:12:31 | 1:12:34 | |
that...just don't take any domestic violence, | 1:12:34 | 1:12:38 | |
or any nonsense from your family. | 1:12:38 | 1:12:40 | |
You are doing a very good job, and at the end of the day, | 1:12:40 | 1:12:43 | |
when you come out, you should be the leader of your family. | 1:12:43 | 1:12:46 | |
In what she feels is part of her feminist mission for the surrogates, | 1:12:50 | 1:12:54 | |
Dr Patel has introduced various lessons for them inside the house. | 1:12:54 | 1:12:59 | |
We want them to utilise their time in the best way. | 1:13:05 | 1:13:08 | |
Learn all this, and once they leave the surrogate house, | 1:13:08 | 1:13:11 | |
they can get some earning out of this as long as they get this embroidery work. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:15 | |
They can still be at home, do this work and earn some money. | 1:13:15 | 1:13:19 | |
So we are training them. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:20 | |
Same thing with this... training them as a beautician. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:24 | |
Because there is a good scope, they can work from home. | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
Later on, we are planning to start a co-operative within a year, | 1:13:27 | 1:13:31 | |
wherein we will find clients for them for beauty treatment, etc, | 1:13:31 | 1:13:35 | |
so that they can get work through us and they get earning through us. | 1:13:35 | 1:13:39 | |
That is the thing I want in them, to groom them overall. | 1:13:41 | 1:13:44 | |
Not just give a baby, finish, take your money and go away. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:48 | |
But change their outlook towards life. | 1:13:48 | 1:13:50 | |
Make her a more confident female. | 1:14:26 | 1:14:30 | |
And make her...self sufficient. | 1:14:30 | 1:14:35 | |
That is what I want to see in a surrogate. | 1:14:35 | 1:14:38 | |
Having been in labour for a prolonged period, | 1:14:51 | 1:14:54 | |
Dr Patel has opted to give Vasanti a Caesarean in order to deliver | 1:14:54 | 1:14:59 | |
the Japanese baby she's been carrying. | 1:14:59 | 1:15:01 | |
Like most newborns at the clinic, | 1:16:03 | 1:16:05 | |
the Japanese boy is immediately taken straight to the neonatal hospital, | 1:16:05 | 1:16:10 | |
where it can be collected once the parents are in India. | 1:16:10 | 1:16:13 | |
As Dr Patel approaches the tenth anniversary | 1:16:43 | 1:16:47 | |
of her surrogacy work, she has new plans. | 1:16:47 | 1:16:49 | |
Despite the criticism, death threats and media attention, | 1:16:51 | 1:16:55 | |
she wants her project to be bigger than ever before. | 1:16:55 | 1:16:58 | |
It's a vision that I'm seeing. | 1:17:00 | 1:17:02 | |
An institute for surrogacy | 1:17:02 | 1:17:05 | |
where total care of the gestational mother, | 1:17:05 | 1:17:09 | |
genetic couple and the newborn baby is under one roof. | 1:17:09 | 1:17:13 | |
The idea is to have a unique clinic | 1:17:16 | 1:17:19 | |
which could be the first of its kind in the world. | 1:17:19 | 1:17:22 | |
This is the main building, which is about 85,000 square feet. | 1:17:27 | 1:17:31 | |
And the building behind that is about 15,000 square feet. | 1:17:31 | 1:17:36 | |
And that is the utility area. | 1:17:36 | 1:17:37 | |
These are the engineers. | 1:17:39 | 1:17:41 | |
That's Mr Yogesh, Mr Prathik. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:43 | |
All of them are engineers. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:45 | |
This is quite ambitious. How much does a project like this cost? | 1:17:48 | 1:17:52 | |
Six million? Six million dollars. | 1:17:52 | 1:17:55 | |
Look, the whole idea is to create a nest, | 1:17:55 | 1:17:58 | |
where we'll have the surrogates staying | 1:17:58 | 1:18:01 | |
in the lower ground floor, | 1:18:01 | 1:18:03 | |
with various activities which they can pursue. | 1:18:03 | 1:18:06 | |
Upper ground will be the outpatient department, | 1:18:06 | 1:18:09 | |
where all the consultancy and the diagnostic department... | 1:18:09 | 1:18:12 | |
And the gift shop | 1:18:12 | 1:18:13 | |
and the gallery of the skills of the surrogates, | 1:18:13 | 1:18:16 | |
whatever we display, will be there. | 1:18:16 | 1:18:19 | |
And the second floor will be a neonatal care unit. | 1:18:19 | 1:18:23 | |
Then there will be serviced apartments | 1:18:23 | 1:18:25 | |
for the couples who come to collect the babies. | 1:18:25 | 1:18:27 | |
So the idea is, the couple is there, the baby is there | 1:18:27 | 1:18:30 | |
and the surrogate is also there, everyone under one roof. | 1:18:30 | 1:18:33 | |
And I am also visualising one step further. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:41 | |
I want most of my ex-surrogates to be employed | 1:18:41 | 1:18:44 | |
and have a work opportunity over there, | 1:18:44 | 1:18:46 | |
because some day I am thinking of a hospital | 1:18:46 | 1:18:48 | |
of the surrogates, run by the surrogates, | 1:18:48 | 1:18:52 | |
And I feel that surrogacy is one woman helping another woman. | 1:18:52 | 1:18:58 | |
And only a woman will understand the feeling of both these females | 1:18:58 | 1:19:03 | |
who are unable to live a life of their dream. | 1:19:03 | 1:19:06 | |
-BARBARA: -Uh, uh, uh, uh. | 1:19:17 | 1:19:18 | |
We'll need a warm protector when we get... | 1:19:21 | 1:19:23 | |
It's the final day in India for Barbara, husband Michel | 1:19:30 | 1:19:34 | |
and baby Ceron. | 1:19:34 | 1:19:36 | |
Ah, very good. | 1:19:42 | 1:19:44 | |
This is his actual diaper bag | 1:19:44 | 1:19:46 | |
but I'm not taking it out en route, Michel. | 1:19:46 | 1:19:49 | |
We're a little bit pressed for time. | 1:19:51 | 1:19:53 | |
We've been giving all kinds of things away. | 1:19:56 | 1:19:59 | |
Our surrogate has gone home with about five bags of things. | 1:19:59 | 1:20:03 | |
She's got a new iron and a new kettle and... | 1:20:03 | 1:20:06 | |
Anything that we're... | 1:20:06 | 1:20:07 | |
you know, that's just too large for us to take back that she can use. | 1:20:07 | 1:20:11 | |
He is officially...you know, has his own Canada passport here, | 1:20:24 | 1:20:29 | |
right, as you can see. | 1:20:29 | 1:20:31 | |
His exit visa reads like a deportation order. | 1:20:31 | 1:20:34 | |
Yes, here it is. | 1:20:34 | 1:20:36 | |
"If he does not leave by April 2nd, | 1:20:36 | 1:20:39 | |
"it's punishable with imprisonment for a period of five years | 1:20:39 | 1:20:43 | |
"and a fine." | 1:20:43 | 1:20:45 | |
so I think they really want our son out of India now. | 1:20:45 | 1:20:49 | |
-Four months is enough! -THEY LAUGH | 1:20:49 | 1:20:51 | |
SHE COOS | 1:20:57 | 1:21:00 | |
Cow, cow, cow, knocking on your nose. | 1:21:00 | 1:21:03 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Mummy being silly? | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
It's also time for Edan to say goodbye | 1:21:10 | 1:21:13 | |
to the baby she held for nine months | 1:21:13 | 1:21:16 | |
and nursed for four more. | 1:21:16 | 1:21:17 | |
Thank you for being so patient, little man. | 1:21:21 | 1:21:25 | |
Mummy's good, good boy. | 1:21:25 | 1:21:27 | |
I'll take the stroller down, honey. | 1:21:28 | 1:21:31 | |
Now I just need to run around and do some tips to all the staff. | 1:21:31 | 1:21:35 | |
Where's the cook? | 1:21:35 | 1:21:38 | |
Cook is in...room. Staffroom. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:41 | |
Cook's in the staffroom? | 1:21:41 | 1:21:43 | |
So, if you can give him one of those for us. | 1:21:43 | 1:21:46 | |
I gave him 700, so he already has some. | 1:21:48 | 1:21:51 | |
Can you break up a couple of 500s for me? | 1:21:53 | 1:21:57 | |
Give me some change. | 1:21:57 | 1:21:59 | |
And...you did a lot more for me than a lot of the others, | 1:22:00 | 1:22:04 | |
so you get two. OK? | 1:22:04 | 1:22:07 | |
Anybody has five 100s? No? | 1:22:07 | 1:22:09 | |
No? | 1:22:09 | 1:22:11 | |
OK... Well, I'll have to leave it at seven... | 1:22:11 | 1:22:14 | |
April 7, so 14, 21. | 1:22:15 | 1:22:17 | |
Is that right? | 1:22:18 | 1:22:20 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 1:22:23 | 1:22:24 | |
Oh, my goodness! Is there any room in there for us? | 1:22:24 | 1:22:28 | |
Those are the two Skypes, Michel and me. | 1:22:32 | 1:22:36 | |
Two e-mails. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:37 | |
Our full address. | 1:22:37 | 1:22:39 | |
All right. | 1:22:45 | 1:22:47 | |
All right. Here, let's put this... | 1:22:47 | 1:22:50 | |
Are you OK? You want to say your final goodbyes, or are you OK? | 1:22:50 | 1:22:53 | |
BABY CRIES | 1:22:53 | 1:22:54 | |
Give her a hug. Give Edan a hug. | 1:22:59 | 1:23:02 | |
Bye-bye. | 1:23:07 | 1:23:09 | |
Thank you so much. | 1:23:21 | 1:23:22 | |
It's going to be OK. We'll see you again. | 1:23:25 | 1:23:27 | |
OK? Love you. | 1:23:27 | 1:23:30 | |
BABY CRIES Ssh, ssh! | 1:23:30 | 1:23:33 | |
He's going to be upset. Let's just... | 1:23:33 | 1:23:37 | |
It's going to be hard for him. | 1:23:37 | 1:23:38 | |
OK? | 1:23:38 | 1:23:40 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 1:24:06 | 1:24:07 | |
Three days after Vasanti had a Caesarean, | 1:24:08 | 1:24:11 | |
she's still in the clinic recovering, | 1:24:11 | 1:24:13 | |
and, as yet, not seen the baby. | 1:24:13 | 1:24:15 | |
Do you think it's a shame that they have to do surrogacy? | 1:26:34 | 1:26:38 | |
-For the couple or for the surrogate? -The surrogate, financially. | 1:26:40 | 1:26:43 | |
No, I don't think it's a shame. | 1:26:43 | 1:26:46 | |
It's a very special woman who can become a surrogate. | 1:26:46 | 1:26:49 | |
It's not for all. | 1:26:49 | 1:26:51 | |
And it's not easy to become a surrogate. | 1:26:51 | 1:26:54 | |
And I repeat, it takes a very, very special woman to become a surrogate. | 1:26:56 | 1:27:01 | |
So she should never be ashamed of it. | 1:27:01 | 1:27:03 | |
But instead, she should come out in the open and say proudly, | 1:27:03 | 1:27:06 | |
"Yes, I have been a surrogate, | 1:27:06 | 1:27:08 | |
"and I have changed the life of this couple." | 1:27:08 | 1:27:10 | |
OK. Done. | 1:27:14 | 1:27:15 | |
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