Rachel Bruno: My Dad & Me


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Going to wish the kids good night.

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-Rach?

-Yeah.

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-Where are you?

-Here.

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-Oh. Hello.

-Are you all right?

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'That's me aged eight.

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'And that's my dad behind the camera.'

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-What do you want to say to me?

-Goodbye, Daddy. I love you.

-Yeah?

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Are you going to miss me?

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I'm going to miss you, as well.

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SHE SNIFFS

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'I knew what Dad going away meant.'

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-SOBS:

-I don't want you to go, Daddy!

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Oh, no, Rach, Rach, Rach, Rach, Rach.

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CROWD ROAR

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Dad was a boxer.

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In fact, he was once Heavyweight Champion of the World.

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Hello, Laura, darling.

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And hello, Nicola and Rach, I love you very much.

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I'll be coming home soon, darling.

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Are you ready to order, at all?

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Or a bit longer? Sure, that's fine!

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'I'm 26 now, and my name is Rachel Bruno.'

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My dad used to be a boxer.

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Frank Bruno.

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-No, you're joking...!

-Yeah.

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Half the time people don't believe me, and think I'm lying.

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I think they probably think, "Why do you work in a restaurant?"

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Some people do look down their noses at me sometimes, but...

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I don't really care.

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'In his day, my dad was a national hero...'

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Is this the champion's belt?

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I never take it off, Noel.

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You know what I mean, Harry?

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'..then, it all went wrong.

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'In the space of a few years,

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'he went from world champion to patient in a psychiatric hospital.'

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-Is he all right?

-Yeah, he's doing good.

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He's getting better.

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-It's a hard illness to cope with, as a family.

-Yes, yes.

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It does break up a family.

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Yeah.

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'People think they know my dad, but they've no idea.

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'Dad's bipolar disorder has devastated our family.

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'Now I want to understand the illness that has taken him from me,

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'and try to find the dad I once knew.'

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RINGING TONE

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-'Hello.'

-Hi, dad.

-'Hello, Rach. You all right?'

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Just let you know, we've just left,

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so hopefully we won't be that long.

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'All right, no problem, Rach.

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'Just focus... Don't worry about the time. Just drive carefully, yeah?'

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Yeah, no, I will do.

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'All right, see you later, Rach.'

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OK, see you soon, Dad. Bye.

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'Bye, darling. Bye. Bye.'

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'My dad has bipolar disorder

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'which means his moods can swing from manic highs to terrible lows.

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'He was sectioned twice last year

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'and taken into psychiatric care against his wishes.

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'He's been out a couple of months now,

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'and is back home and on medication to keep him stable.'

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The thing is, it's hard because he doesn't live around the corner

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so I can't keep an eye on him.

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I just hope he's still, like, taking the medication.

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He knows that he's got to get better really.

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I think he knows.

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It worries me, because I don't really

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talk about my dad's illness with him.

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'This is the first time I've been to Dad's house in over a year.'

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-Come on.

-Thank you.

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Make yourself at home.

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-Thank you.

-Do you want to cup of tea or something?

-I'd love one, please.

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Have you been going gym?

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No, no, I haven't been... Not this week.

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Have you lost your, like, motivation?

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No, not lost motivation. Just can't be bothered.

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Can't be bothered.

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-Do you take sugar?

-Er, yes, please.

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Thank you.

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So, how are you feeling? Are you feeling better?

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-Better? What do you mean "better"?

-Just better in yourself?

-Yeah.

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What, don't I look better?

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-No, you do.

-Oh.

-I think you look really well.

-OK.

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I think you look really, really well.

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You look nervous. What's the matter with you?

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Well, I don't know, because obviously, I'm doing this programme,

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-and I am grateful that you're letting me do it, cos...

-Sorry?

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I'm grateful to you for letting me go ahead and film this...

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Because it's private, isn't it? We don't really...

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-You don't really talk about it to the public too much...

-Yeah.

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..about your illness. I have been getting quite anxious about it.

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Don't worry about the public, just chill out and relax yourself, girl.

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Ask what questions you want to ask.

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As long as it doesn't upset you, that's the main thing, isn't it?

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Don't worry about upsetting me.

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I keep busy all the time, you know.

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I'm cleaning up the house.

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Dust up.

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Mop. Hoover. Do bits and pieces.

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And you think that helps you, yeah?

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Well, it's good for me.

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What programme are you on with the doctors at the moment?

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-What do you mean "what programme am I on"?

-Like medication.

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-Are you still...

-Yeah, I am taking medication,

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but I'm not too sure what the medication is.

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But I am on medication, yeah.

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Do they come round, or do you go to them?

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No, they come round.

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Have you got a nice team of doctors?

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Um, they are very intrusive.

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Very nosy.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes I don't know why they got to give you all this powerful...

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-Yeah.

-..medication for, you know what I mean?

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That's my...my...

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I'm trying to get off the medication, Rach.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to be like a zombie for the rest of my life.

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I do worry about you.

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Don't like you being this far out on your own.

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But I suppose you like it?

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There is a reason why I came this far.

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CHUCKLES

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I'm surprised you haven't got any animals here. A dog, or something.

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-Animals...

-You don't want one?

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No. I don't want a dog. What do I want a dog for?

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-A dog's a man's best friend.

-Is it?

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-Yeah?

-Nah!

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-You look after yourself, yeah?

-Thank you, Dad.

-Cheers, nice one.

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-Drive safely, carefully.

-I will.

-Yeah.

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I think he handled it well today.

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All of last year, we haven't really had a relationship, so...

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our relationship is strained.

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And it's weird going round there

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and talking about his illness and stuff.

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I found it a bit awkward at times

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because he's still in a fragile state,

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so I don't want to tip him.

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-VIDEO: 'Comes out wicked, don't it?

-Oh, wicked!

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'Here you are, do some of me. And Rach.'

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FRANK AND FRANKLYN CHAT ON VIDEO

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How young Dad looks!

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He was young, though.

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Did you get this camera for Christmas?

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No, he'd just got it this Christmas and charged it up.

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I think this is the Christmas Day.

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-Cleared out. It's clear, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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'I still live with my sister Nicola and my brother Franklyn.

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'We grew up in a big house in the country.

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'With everything kids could possibly want.'

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This is my wife.

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And this is my baby boy in here.

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'Dad was fun to be around.'

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FRANK CHUCKLES

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'Always joking and making an arse of himself!'

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That is disgusting, Daddy.

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He was so naughty, wasn't he?

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It's weird seeing dad like this, because I never really...

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I can never remember Dad like this.

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'Our whole family life has been changed by our dad's bipolar,

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'also known as manic depression.

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'At times my dad's been so manic,

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'he hasn't known who he is.

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'And at other times he has been so depressed

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'he can barely get out of bed.

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'I don't really think I've grasped what is my dad,

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'and what is his illness yet.

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'And I don't think Nicola or Franklyn have either.

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'But at least me and my sister

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'sort of got to know the real dad and the normal dad.'

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For a little, short time.

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Just make sure you look after the kids

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and look after Mummy, and the baby.

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'Unfortunately, Franklyn's been born into my dad's illness.

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'And he hasn't ever seen my dad normal.

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'And it's sad that the son that he so wanted,

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'the bipolar takes that all that away, I think.'

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Because he doesn't know how to be a dad.

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He can't be a dad when he's ill.

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-NEWS PRESENTER:

-Frank Bruno arrived back in Britain today

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after his crushing defeat at the hands of Mike Tyson.

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'My dad's career came to a sudden end in 1996.

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'He'd been the World Heavyweight Champion for just six months.

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'He was defeated by Mike Tyson in a fight

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'that left my dad's eye badly injured.

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'Doctors told him he risked going blind if he ever fought again.'

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I'm just here to say that I'm officially retired

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and the door is going to be open for me to spend more time

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with my family, you know. Be a father.

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'But retirement hit dad and our family hard.

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'Everything soon spiralled out of control.'

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One of this country's best-loved sportsmen,

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Frank Bruno, is in a mental hospital tonight.

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It's believed the boxer,

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who was escorted from his home in Essex last night

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by police and paramedics,

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has been sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

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'In September 2003, after months of erratic behaviour,

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'my dad was committed to a psychiatric hospital

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'for the first time.

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'I was just 16.'

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It just sent our family up in turmoil, really,

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because a celebrity hadn't ever been sectioned,

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so the hype it caused with the press...

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We were hounded all the time,

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they were literally camped outside our house.

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-NEWS REPORT:

-'41-year-old Frank Bruno now faces his most difficult bout.

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'The former World Champion has been committed

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'while his state of mind is assessed.'

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It took nine hours to get actually in the ambulance.

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I think he did get a bit aggressive,

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and the police officers tripped him up to inject him.

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It was sad, because he was like a child.

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He was begging us not to do it.

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-NEWS REPORTER:

-'Behind the darkened windows,

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'Frank Bruno's family arrive at the hospital.

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'Bruno is finally getting the help so many had urged him to seek.'

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'Ten years on, I'm revisiting the hospital where my dad was locked up.

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'To try and understand more about what happened.'

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-I don't know if you remember this door...

-Yep, I do.

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This was probably the door you would've...

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This is what, um, the door.

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..come to the actual ward.

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My dad on the other side - where all the patients and him would wait.

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And we'd have to exit.

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But I do think we went through...

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We used to go through that door.

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Obviously, there was quite a lot of press here at the time,

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so we had to avoid them.

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This is Picasso Ward,

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-as was.

-OK, yeah.

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This is a day area.

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I remember that. And I remember we had a chat in here.

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And that used to be the smoking room, I think.

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Before the smoking ban.

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That was where my dad tried to set my sister up with a patient.

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-Oh, right.

-CHUCKLES

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-Sounds like you have got very clear memories.

-I have now, yeah!

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What were the questions in your mind that you were thinking about?

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Actually, at the time, I had no clue about what bipolar was.

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I had no clue really what was happening to my dad.

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I just... I just thought he'd had a breakdown,

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or lost it, or something.

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And also from seeing him so sedated,

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I didn't think he'd actually come back from that.

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This is the area to which someone will be brought,

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when they're brought by the police

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under what's called Section 136 of the Mental Health Act.

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Why would someone with bipolar need to be sectioned?

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There's a huge variety of severities of this condition.

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They might be over-active,

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have all sorts of grandiose,

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or unfeasible plans and schemes...

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And because there's a loss of judgment,

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the person will typically not necessarily realise

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that they're unwell and needing treatment.

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Sometimes the only way then to persuade,

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or to get the person to have treatment,

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is to take away their freedom and detain them - section them.

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What behaviour led up to your dad being sectioned?

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He had a massive boxing ring that he fought in,

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he put that in his garden and slept in it.

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He was walking around our local high street with no shoes on.

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When we'd go and visit him he had loads of incense and he'd be...

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whoofing 'em around everywhere.

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He'd hear voices,

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he thought he was other people at times.

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He was acting really strange.

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At that time, I didn't really understand

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why they were taking my dad away.

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I didn't know that when I'd see him next he'd be a zombie,

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crouched over a seat

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who couldn't really speak

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or even lift his head to give us a kiss goodbye.

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That was really heartbreaking.

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'I know how hard it was for me at the time,

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'but I want to find out what it was like for my sister Nicola.

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'Because she was the one

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'who had to sign the papers to have Dad sectioned.'

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-How old was you?

-Er...20.

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And you had to sign Dad in, didn't you?

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I did, cos obviously I was his next of kin

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because he and Mum were divorced.

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And, obviously, it's horrible, because you don't want to see

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your dad having to go into hospital, but that was the last resort.

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We all said at the time,

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we agreed that we wouldn't tell him who signed the papers.

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I don't know who told him, but somebody told him

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that I signed him in

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and he was just very hostile towards me.

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He was looking at me like he just wanted to kill me.

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It affected your relationship with him for a long time, didn't it?

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He didn't start talking to me properly or have any, like,

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interest in me probably until I was about 28.

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He always made it feel that, "Oh, I can't have a laugh with Nicola,

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"because she may get me sectioned."

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Do you feel guilty in any way?

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It made you feel guilty as soon as you did it,

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but I just had to be strong and say I did it for the right reasons.

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Where would he be now if he wasn't sectioned?

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Totally, I don't think he...

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-Would he be alive?

-Yeah...

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-That's what I think.

-Would he have anything left to his name?

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Would he be wrapped around a tree because of the way he drives?

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Would someone else have hurt him

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because of the way he was antagonising people?

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What would have happened?

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Yeah.

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Because he's invincible.

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When he's manic, he's invincible.

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He's dominated my whole life, for...

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18...

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12 years.

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12 years he has dominated it, from me worrying about him.

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But I have to be honest, he's not worried about me.

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He's not worried about how my life is going.

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He doesn't care, but...

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at the end of the day, I love my dad

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and I'm never stopped loving him,

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but if I ever got ill, would he do the same for me?

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But I don't do it for him to do it for me.

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But, you know what, you've...

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I'm proud of you for taking on that responsibility all these years.

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I couldn't be as strong as you.

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'Although Dad has told me I can ask him anything, I'm still

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'nervous of his moods and I don't want to push him or make him angry.

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'So I'm going to meet someone who might be easier to talk to.'

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Come on then. Let's get a sweat on.

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May the best man win.

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Dave Sheen has bipolar.

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That's a really good one, Dan.

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Life's all about focus.

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'He's the same age as my dad, is divorced and has three kids,

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'just like our family.'

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-Hello! I'm Rachel.

-It's a left handshake. I broke my right hand.

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-I won't grab it, then.

-You're really pretty, aren't you?

-Oh, thank you.

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-So how old are you then?

-14.

-You're 14.

-Yeah.

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You're about the same age... When my dad was first sectioned,

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you're about the same age as I was.

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Can you describe your dad as a person?

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He's very loving.

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Very generous.

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-But a bit short-tempered at the same time.

-Yeah.

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So, how is your dad to you today?

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Do you think he's level today?

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-Yeah. He is in a good mood.

-He seems to be happy.

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He seems happy to me.

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You only see me when I'm happy.

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-I never show 'em really when I'm down.

-Oh, do you not?

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Love you. See you soon, all right?

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-See you later.

-See you soon.

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-Seems funny, letting them walk away.

-Do you get sad?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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-Don't like it?

-No, I don't. No.

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-You know what makes me happy?

-What?

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MUSIC PLAYS

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-Music? Oh!

-It's proper music. Like reggae music.

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Never fails to make me happy. A bit of this.

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MUSIC: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"

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# I will dream about the days to come

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# When I won't have to leave you alone... #

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Dave was a successful businessman and multimillionaire

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until his diagnosis six years ago.

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# ..So kiss me and smile for me... #

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So we're in a Hyundai at the moment.

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Have you always driven this sort of car?

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No, I've only had it two months.

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I didn't have a car. I didn't have no money.

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When you did have money, what cars did you have?

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I've had every Mercedes ever built.

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I used to pick the kids up from a different car every time at school.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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-I only used it ever wear designer clothes.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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Do you think your bipolar helped to become successful?

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-100%.

-What's that? 100%?

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100%, yeah. Cos it gives you the drive.

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That's what it does, it drives you. It drives you insane in the end,

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but it drives you to get what you want.

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If you want something, you'll get it.

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So, where are we going, Dave?

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We're going to go back to the barn conversions that I built.

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Is this where you lived with your wife? Your ex-wife and kids?

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That's right, yeah.

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That was the first one I done.

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There's the farmhouse.

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They're sold to two footballers, these are.

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-MAN:

-But you used to own all this?

-Yeah, I owned the lot. Yeah.

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I mean, realistically, I had enough to retire on.

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I think, "Well, how did I lose that?"

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How did you lose...

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How mad is it to try and work an earning to get it and then...

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And what was the reason why you lost that?

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I just had a breakdown.

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# ..I'm leaving on a jet plane

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# Don't know when I'll be back again... #

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Home sweet home.

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So, which one is your one?

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The posh one with the black blinds, matching blinds.

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'Home now is a one-bedroom council flat.'

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Right then.

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Look! Clean, look.

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Oh, yeah. That is clean.

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-That is good.

-Coffee.

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You've got all the essentials, haven't you?

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-Everything in here's been given me.

-Has it?

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Washing machine, cooker, fridge.

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It's nice, though.

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-Now, come on, Rachel.

-No, it is...

-Be honest!

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-It ain't nice!

-No, no, no.

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'Like my dad, Dave's been prescribed drugs for his mood swings.'

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I'm not a snob.

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'But he's decided to stop taking them,

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'just like my dad has done in the past.'

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-Why aren't you on medication?

-I've tried it their way, remember.

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I tried tablets for three or four years.

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When I was on the tablets, it didn't make me go out and go to the shops.

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-Right?

-Right.

-It didn't make me shave.

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It didn't make me wash.

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I'd be in bed for about a month, two months at a time.

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I was just like a zombie.

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And don't get me wrong, when I feel really bad,

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I do start back on my tablets.

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So, if I went that bad where I thought I was going to do

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-one of them, I would go back on me tablets.

-Yeah.

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-But, you know...

-What do you mean, do one of them?

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Hang myself or something, I don't know.

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-You know, you don't know, do you?

-No.

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-I mean, you get suicidal thoughts all the time.

-Yeah.

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-And your dad must get it as well.

-I've never... He's never...

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-He probably would never tell you.

-Yeah.

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-I wouldn't tell my children...

-Yeah.

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..because that would be really hard.

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When I do get them, that's what I think about.

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I think, "What would they say?"

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How do you feel that your relationship

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with your kids has been affected by bipolar?

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Because I feel like I haven't got

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the money to do anything with them, I don't do it.

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It affects me, because I think, you know, "I'm fat," or I was fat.

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It affects me cos I feel low.

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Even though they're my own kids - and I don't want to say this -

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sometimes I don't want to see them.

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It's not because I don't want to see them, it's cos I don't feel...

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I can't think of anything to say to them.

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It must affect them to see

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what they used to have to what they have today.

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Cos I used to be, "Everybody loves Dave."

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"Everybody loves their dad."

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You know? He'd be the funniest one in the pub.

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He'd have plenty of mates around him.

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It was an exciting life. There's always people at the house.

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And, all of a sudden, I'm not the centre of attraction.

0:20:510:20:54

-It was lovely meeting you.

-Can we have a Spanish kiss?

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'I've heard Dave's side of things, but now

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'I want to find out how his kids feel about having a bipolar dad.'

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-Hello, are you all right?

-Hello.

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He's seemed quite manic at the moment and, obviously,

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my dad can be like that at times.

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Do you find that hard to be around him when he's like that?

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-Mm.

-Cos he's quite all over the place, isn't he?

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-Yeah, like a bit loud and a bit jumpy.

-Yeah.

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But does that upset you?

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I'm just used to it, I am.

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-He's just always like that.

-Does that make you sad?

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A little bit, yeah.

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I wouldn't want dad to be here

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when I have my friends round, or anything.

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Cos in a way I'm kind of embarrassed to be next to him.

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Do you find some of the stuff he says,

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when he's manic, a bit embarrassing?

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Yeah. It's like I wish he wasn't like how he is.

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I wish he was just like... I don't know, just like a normal dad

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and was like how I see other people's families when I'm out.

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That's how I kind of see my dad sometimes.

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-It's not normal, this illness they've got, is it?

-Yeah.

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I think for teenagers you've got to get over the embarrassment.

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It's understandable, you're going through that

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certain age where you're trying to fit in

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and be cool with your friends and it's not something you want

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to shout about and be like, "Oh, yeah, hey, this is what's going on."

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When I was a teenager, it took me a long time, I think

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up until the age of my 20s, to be able to actually be open

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and talk about my dad's illness to people.

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He's quite comical, Dave was. He likes a laugh about his illness.

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He said that sometimes he feels suicidal,

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when he could hang himself and that was quite hard to listen to.

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Cos my dad's never said that to me before.

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But my dad living on his own,

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I wouldn't want him to ever feel that low

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like Dave has and think about suicide.

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That's not nice.

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Hello?

0:22:560:22:58

Hello?

0:22:580:23:00

Hi, Dad, you all right?

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Yeah, we went and met a family, a family in Birmingham

0:23:030:23:07

and the dad with, like, bipolar. It was quite interesting.

0:23:070:23:11

Yes, so I'm just on the train now. How are you?

0:23:110:23:14

Yeah, I'll give you a call when I get home, anyway. OK, Dad.

0:23:160:23:19

Speak to you soon.

0:23:190:23:21

Bye. Bye-bye.

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He seems well.

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He does, actually. He seems quite chirpy.

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'Dad was officially diagnosed with bipolar ten years ago,

0:23:320:23:35

'but it's hard to know when it really began.

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'Looking back, I can see there were moments in my childhood when

0:23:440:23:48

'he would go over the top.

0:23:480:23:49

'He hired a helicopter for my brother Franklyn's christening...

0:23:520:23:55

'..and Heart FM DJs for my birthday.

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'Now, I don't know if that was Dad being manic

0:24:020:24:05

'or whether it was just him enjoying his fame and fortune.'

0:24:050:24:08

-You know what I mean, Harry?

-I'm not Harry.

0:24:080:24:11

'I have to be honest.

0:24:110:24:13

'I don't think I've ever had a clue what's

0:24:130:24:15

'going on inside my dad's head.

0:24:150:24:17

'So I am hoping psychiatrist Dr Mark Salter

0:24:170:24:21

'can help me understand.'

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Manic depression, it's an illness like any other illness,

0:24:240:24:26

but if you want to go a bit further and deeper into that,

0:24:260:24:28

you ask yourself, "What does your brain do all day long?"

0:24:280:24:31

-Think.

-Tell me about it. It doesn't just think, does it?

-No.

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Think's a good one.

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You might say that's the icing on the cake.

0:24:360:24:39

-Like, the cherry on top, sort of thing.

-Yeah.

0:24:390:24:41

It feels. OK?

0:24:410:24:45

It remembers.

0:24:450:24:46

We tend to know that emotion and memory

0:24:480:24:51

are stored in what we call the bottom bits of the brain.

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Down here is the drive.

0:24:540:24:57

"I'm going win, I'm going to be successful."

0:24:570:25:00

Down here is the moodiness bits.

0:25:000:25:02

Down here is the horny bits.

0:25:020:25:04

"I feel like getting laid."

0:25:040:25:05

Down here is the bit that craves.

0:25:050:25:07

"I feel like a line of charlie.

0:25:070:25:09

"I feel like a beer. I feel like a spliff."

0:25:090:25:11

Down here is the memory.

0:25:110:25:13

"I remember last time I had charlie, I felt fantastic. I'll do it again."

0:25:130:25:17

And that, of course, thinks, "Ah!" sends a signal up to

0:25:170:25:20

the thinking bit, "Ring the dealer, score."

0:25:200:25:23

Or, alternatively,

0:25:230:25:24

"Last time I exercised to Olympic levels of fitness,

0:25:240:25:28

"I felt fantastic."

0:25:280:25:29

That sends a signal, "Do it again. Go to the gym."

0:25:290:25:33

So, can you see how your mood changes your thinking

0:25:330:25:37

and your thinking changes your mood?

0:25:370:25:39

The chemical side of treating manic depression seems to be

0:25:390:25:42

about stabilising or preventing major mood swings, or, if you like,

0:25:420:25:47

emotional storms, from welling up from these parts of the brain.

0:25:470:25:50

That emotion you see at the bottom of the brain, pushes ideas

0:25:500:25:53

out of you when you're manic. It gives you so much energy.

0:25:530:25:56

It's almost as though, when you're high,

0:25:560:25:59

there's a kind of disinhibition of

0:25:590:26:01

all your raw desires and instincts, you know?

0:26:010:26:03

People don't need to sleep. They've got fantastic energy.

0:26:030:26:06

And that makes them choose to think confident things.

0:26:060:26:09

They're in someone's face, talking really quickly,

0:26:090:26:11

all over the place... Rhymes and puns.

0:26:110:26:13

It's like a piece of happy music that won't stop, for God's sake.

0:26:130:26:16

-There's this look when he's manic. It's quite scary.

-What is a stare?

0:26:160:26:19

A stare is looking in the eye too much.

0:26:190:26:21

Yeah, it's like that. It's like the big eyes.

0:26:210:26:24

It's scary. It's intimidating.

0:26:240:26:26

-Does what I'm saying make sense?

-It does, yeah.

-OK.

0:26:260:26:29

Having a brain means having a mind, means having a personality.

0:26:290:26:32

Everything that's happened to your dad has made him uniquely him

0:26:320:26:36

and, boy, has he lived a life.

0:26:360:26:38

I wonder whether it's obviously retiring, as well, hasn't helped.

0:26:380:26:42

I suppose being so regimented

0:26:420:26:43

throughout his whole life and his career...

0:26:430:26:45

Those experiences of focus, discipline, drive,

0:26:450:26:48

excellence and not to mention all the glory and the worship he got.

0:26:480:26:52

When it falls apart through retina injury and retirement and stuff...

0:26:520:26:55

And then the marriage and everything.

0:26:550:26:57

..everything else that fell apart,

0:26:570:26:59

that is a huge shock for some people.

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And so I can really understand

0:27:000:27:02

your dad having a really, really hard time.

0:27:020:27:04

Life kicked him in the teeth, literally,

0:27:040:27:06

because everything he knew that meant something to him

0:27:060:27:08

-was kind of taken away from him, in a way.

-Yeah.

0:27:080:27:11

It's impossible to say whether celebrity was caused by

0:27:110:27:14

his mania, or the other way round.

0:27:140:27:16

-That the mania was part and parcel of his celebrity.

-Yeah.

0:27:160:27:21

What it is fair to say is that, by being a celebrity,

0:27:210:27:24

he was definitely at increased risk.

0:27:240:27:26

Rewinding right back to before your dad became unwell,

0:27:260:27:30

-was there moodiness in him then?

-Yeah.

0:27:300:27:32

He'd lock himself away in his bedroom.

0:27:320:27:34

When I looked at old videos, he's either really manic,

0:27:340:27:37

like all doing extravagant things really manic, or really down.

0:27:370:27:41

ON FILM: 'Do some of me and Rach.

0:27:410:27:44

-'Is it filming at the moment?

-It's fresh, yeah! Fresh!'

0:27:440:27:47

God, when you're finally seeing someone that famous

0:27:470:27:50

in this sort of context...

0:27:500:27:52

I think that's why I can't watch home videos. I get sad.

0:27:530:27:56

-I feel sad now watching it.

-I bet you do. You must do.

0:27:560:27:59

Because, I suppose, when he lived at home with us,

0:27:590:28:02

he had a bit more stability and normality, I suppose.

0:28:020:28:05

Yes, and you feel like he hasn't got that now.

0:28:050:28:08

The hardest thing, I think, that people find really hard to

0:28:080:28:12

handle is that, actually, it's not their dad any more.

0:28:120:28:14

It's an illness that's taken over their dad.

0:28:140:28:16

Yeah, but that's the sad thing.

0:28:160:28:17

When am I going to get my dad back? That's what...

0:28:170:28:20

..is the journey, I suppose, that we've got to all go on.

0:28:210:28:24

-I don't really feel like I've had my dad for a lot of years.

-Yeah.

0:28:240:28:28

Possibly since you were a very little girl.

0:28:280:28:30

Maybe you don't know who your dad is yet, that's the thing.

0:28:300:28:33

You haven't met him properly.

0:28:330:28:35

-I know who Frank Bruno is.

-So does everyone.

0:28:350:28:39

But it's different for you.

0:28:390:28:41

-Do you think he thinks he's failed you lot?

-I think, in a way.

0:28:410:28:45

I think I just try and pretend

0:28:450:28:47

everything's going to be fine all the time.

0:28:470:28:50

-But I just...

-Well, hang on. It might be.

0:28:500:28:53

I'm not saying fine all the time, because your dad's got

0:28:530:28:56

a really nasty illness, but there's no reason

0:28:560:28:58

why you can't have good times.

0:28:580:29:00

The very fact your dad is still in touch with you, he's going out...

0:29:000:29:03

It's good. And letting me do this.

0:29:030:29:04

You say in this business, "Nothing predicts the future like the past."

0:29:040:29:08

If the person has had illness and come out of it,

0:29:080:29:11

they will come out of it again.

0:29:110:29:13

It might sound silly, but each one of your dad's relapses

0:29:130:29:16

is a chance to learn how to do it better next time.

0:29:160:29:19

You see, manic depression is not like dementia.

0:29:190:29:23

It's not an irreversible, downward spiralling condition.

0:29:230:29:25

Like, you can't hold back the waves, you know?

0:29:250:29:28

Manic depression, you can bounce back.

0:29:280:29:31

You've got to hold onto that.

0:29:310:29:32

-See what I'm saying?

-Yeah. I do.

0:29:340:29:37

'I'm determined to build bridges between me and my dad.

0:29:510:29:54

'I've decided to run the London Marathon for him

0:29:560:29:59

'and raise awareness about bipolar.

0:29:590:30:01

'I've always loved running,

0:30:040:30:06

'but 26.2 miles pushes your body to a different level'

0:30:060:30:10

and my dad's done, I think, four or five marathons before,

0:30:100:30:13

'so he knows how hard I've been training

0:30:130:30:15

'and the bottles of wine I've sacrificed.'

0:30:150:30:18

FRANK: Go on, Rach!

0:30:180:30:20

Go on, Rachel! Come on!

0:30:200:30:22

Go on, Rach! Wicked!

0:30:220:30:23

'I remember my sports days when I was younger,

0:30:230:30:25

'he was there cheering me on.

0:30:250:30:27

'I saw him and I just sprinted, I was gone.'

0:30:270:30:30

Very good.

0:30:300:30:31

Well done, Rach.

0:30:310:30:33

'He is an athlete and you do want to impress him.

0:30:340:30:37

'I want to make him proud.

0:30:370:30:38

'I think, if he's there, I probably would run faster.'

0:30:380:30:40

-Well done, Rach.

-I knew you'd come first.

0:30:400:30:42

FRANK LAUGHS

0:30:420:30:45

It will upset me a lot if he doesn't come.

0:30:450:30:48

I haven't told him that, but, to be honest, he should know that.

0:30:480:30:51

'When my dad was recovering after being sectioned the first time,

0:30:550:30:58

'we'd sometimes go to the spa to spend time together.'

0:30:580:31:02

-You all right?

-You all right?

-Looking well.

-Yeah.

0:31:030:31:06

'I've asked Dad if he'd like to do this again.

0:31:060:31:09

'I'm hoping it will make us both more relaxed

0:31:090:31:12

'and Dad might be able to open up to me.'

0:31:120:31:15

It's so nice to eat healthy.

0:31:200:31:22

Mm.

0:31:220:31:24

You sure you're all right?

0:31:240:31:25

I'm going to keep asking you this, cos I'm just...

0:31:250:31:28

But you're fine with me filming today?

0:31:280:31:29

Rach, if I weren't fine, I would tell you.

0:31:290:31:32

I swear to God, I would tell you. You know what I mean?

0:31:320:31:35

I'm not short in coming forward.

0:31:350:31:37

Ask whatever you want to ask me.

0:31:370:31:40

Just want to know what it feels like to be...

0:31:400:31:43

What goes on when you're manic and stuff?

0:31:430:31:46

I don't know what goes on when you're manic, you know what I mean?

0:31:470:31:50

The chemicals in your body make you react differently.

0:31:500:31:55

Do you know that? Do you sleep?

0:31:550:31:58

Sometimes I don't sleep.

0:31:580:32:00

How do you control that?

0:32:010:32:04

How do you... Can you bring yourself down?

0:32:040:32:08

Can you bring yourself down? Sleeping? Yeah.

0:32:080:32:11

I haven't been manic for ages, Rach. I don't get high...

0:32:110:32:16

You must remember, like,

0:32:160:32:17

when you have been, what it feels like. Or do you not?

0:32:170:32:22

It's hard to know. To explain it, you know what I mean?

0:32:220:32:26

Sometimes when you get high,

0:32:260:32:28

sometimes you're rushing and you...

0:32:280:32:31

..you start tripping over yourself, you know what I mean?

0:32:320:32:35

Your brain, speedy more than you should be speedy.

0:32:350:32:39

But you may lose control.

0:32:390:32:41

OK.

0:32:430:32:44

Your highs, like normal human beings, sometimes you've had a good day

0:32:440:32:50

and something happens to you, you're high, ain't you?

0:32:500:32:53

I'm hyper, yeah.

0:32:530:32:55

Should you be sectioned if you're high?

0:32:550:32:57

Obviously, bipolar's a different kind of high. It's over...

0:32:570:33:00

Off the Richter scale.

0:33:000:33:02

I can get hyper. But I know, when I get a headache,

0:33:020:33:04

I know when to calm myself down.

0:33:040:33:07

Yeah.

0:33:070:33:08

-Do you accept that you're ill now?

-Sorry?

0:33:100:33:12

Do you accept that you've got bipolar for the rest of your life?

0:33:120:33:15

Yeah, I do accept I've got bipolar for the rest of my life,

0:33:150:33:17

but I can't accept that every minute,

0:33:170:33:20

if I do something crazy,

0:33:200:33:22

that someone could send someone around my house to get me sectioned.

0:33:220:33:25

I don't accept that at all. I don't accept that one little bit.

0:33:250:33:28

The only thing I am struggling to...

0:33:280:33:31

I don't think doctors and police would put you in hospital

0:33:310:33:34

if they didn't feel like you needed to be there, would they?

0:33:340:33:36

-Yeah.

-Remember in New York, you bought tracksuits.

0:33:360:33:40

-God knows how many tracksuits.

-True.

-That...

-That was manic.

0:33:400:33:44

You can't just buy one. You can't just buy one.

0:33:440:33:46

I think you came home with ten suitcases of them. Ridiculous.

0:33:460:33:49

You gave me a suitcase.

0:33:490:33:51

HE LAUGHS

0:33:510:33:52

I then filled that up.

0:33:520:33:53

I don't think it was ten suitcases. It was about four.

0:33:530:33:56

You know the fairy lights you got in your car? Were they on a good day?

0:33:560:33:59

-What?

-The fairy lights you have in your car.

0:33:590:34:02

-The disco? The Christmas lights?

-The disco lights.

0:34:020:34:05

-Was that you?

-I got them cos I see someone had them in their car

0:34:050:34:08

and it was good. Is that a bipolar thing?

0:34:080:34:10

-Is that against the law, to have something like that?

-No.

0:34:100:34:13

I'm just asking you...

0:34:130:34:14

If you've got dice hanging up in your car, what, you got to be

0:34:140:34:17

sectioned because you've got dice hanging up in your car?

0:34:170:34:20

-I just bought them because it's a nice little thing.

-OK.

0:34:200:34:23

'I feel really good, actually.

0:34:280:34:31

'I feel my dad's being really open

0:34:310:34:34

'and I felt like I didn't have that connection with my dad,

0:34:340:34:37

'because I couldn't even ask him what tablets he's on,'

0:34:370:34:40

or how he's feeling, because I was scared that he'd just be like,

0:34:400:34:44

"Right, you're disowned. You're not my daughter any more."

0:34:440:34:48

But now, I've actually got past this hurdle, I'm...

0:34:480:34:52

I think I'm feeling more positive about our relationship now.

0:34:520:34:57

-Are you scared?

-Yeah, yeah. Very scared. Very scared.

0:34:570:35:01

-Hit it with a dumping punch.

-What's a dumping punch?

-Your right hand.

0:35:030:35:06

-What, the...

-Your right hand.

0:35:060:35:07

Yeah, that's it.

0:35:070:35:09

-You feel the power?

-You do, actually.

0:35:090:35:12

-That is the money maker, isn't it?

-You want a rest?

-Yeah.

0:35:150:35:18

-You hear from your old boyfriend?

-No. Nothing.

0:35:210:35:25

He was a whirlwind and he got my hopes up for no reason.

0:35:250:35:28

Even Nicola said, everyone was shocked

0:35:280:35:30

when he just turned round out of nowhere and said,

0:35:300:35:32

-"Oh, I don't really think I'm in love with you." That's random.

-Yeah.

0:35:320:35:38

-Relationships, Rach.

-I know.

0:35:380:35:40

-I just think, "What?" I'm not cut out for them any more.

-Yeah?

0:35:400:35:45

-I don't think I'm cut out for them any more.

-What, relationships?

-Yeah.

0:35:450:35:48

HE LAUGHS

0:35:480:35:51

'I think they've lowered the dosage of his medication.

0:35:530:35:57

'He seems more aware of what's going on. He's not so tired and drowsy.'

0:35:570:36:01

Take it easy.

0:36:010:36:03

'I think this is good.'

0:36:030:36:04

This is good Dad

0:36:040:36:06

right now.

0:36:060:36:08

'Dad seems to be getting on top of his illness,

0:36:080:36:11

'but I know it's staying on top that's the hard bit.

0:36:110:36:14

'I want to meet someone who's learned to really manage

0:36:170:36:20

'their bipolar and live a relatively normal life.'

0:36:200:36:23

-Hello!

-Hello, my love! How are you?

-Good, thank you.

0:36:250:36:28

Come on through.

0:36:280:36:29

-Welcome to the place where dreams become reality.

-Oh!

0:36:290:36:33

'Paul Scates has the same severe bipolar as my dad and yet is

0:36:330:36:37

'able to run his own business planning parties and weddings.'

0:36:370:36:40

I go above and beyond my call of duty.

0:36:400:36:42

I have been known in the past to live with a couple for a week

0:36:420:36:45

to get to know their personality so that

0:36:450:36:46

I can then inject that into their wedding.

0:36:460:36:48

'Paul was officially diagnosed three years ago, but he believes

0:36:480:36:53

'his bipolar was triggered by traumatic events in his teens.'

0:36:530:36:58

I unfortunately, through a so-called friend of the family, was

0:36:580:37:00

abused for many years and I believe that's what kicked it off for me.

0:37:000:37:05

-So, it's been quite a journey...

-Yeah...

0:37:050:37:08

..but I actually... Although it was horrible at times,

0:37:080:37:10

I wouldn't change it for the world, to a certain degree,

0:37:100:37:13

because it's made me who I am.

0:37:130:37:14

Do you think having bipolar helped you with your career?

0:37:140:37:18

People buy me first and then they buy what I can do afterwards.

0:37:180:37:21

So, I think, because of my natural gregarious nature, which is

0:37:210:37:24

my personality, but I think maybe the bipolar might assist

0:37:240:37:28

it along its way, it's helped me no end.

0:37:280:37:31

Because people can feel my passion, they can see it. It's a drug.

0:37:310:37:35

It's a natural drug, admittedly. But you want to keep going.

0:37:350:37:38

You want to get higher. You want to be even more excitable.

0:37:380:37:41

And then you look around and you think,

0:37:410:37:43

"Oh, God. They're boring." You know?

0:37:430:37:45

Cos you're just so passionate and you've got so much energy

0:37:450:37:47

and everything is achievable.

0:37:470:37:49

I mean, I think it's absolutely paramount, like you are with

0:37:490:37:52

your father and stuff, to have support networks around you.

0:37:520:37:55

I think, without my family and friends,

0:37:550:37:57

I don't know where I would have ended up.

0:37:570:37:59

'Paul has invited me for lunch so I can meet his family

0:38:070:38:10

'and his boyfriend Rob.'

0:38:100:38:12

When did you first tell him that you were bipolar?

0:38:140:38:17

I'll let Rob explain. It was by default.

0:38:170:38:19

He didn't, because we'd actually come back from a weekend away

0:38:190:38:22

and I was unpacking our weekend bag and I found some tablets.

0:38:220:38:26

And, obviously, you know,

0:38:260:38:28

pill sleeves make that distinctive rattling sound, that crinkling sound.

0:38:280:38:32

And he was only in the bathroom. So he heard.

0:38:320:38:34

-I was like, "Why did I let him go in the bag?"

-Oh!

0:38:340:38:37

"I could have unpacked myself."

0:38:370:38:39

-Because we'd only been together, what?

-A month.

-A month.

0:38:390:38:41

When you found out Paul had bipolar,

0:38:410:38:44

did you have any doubts when you found out?

0:38:440:38:47

Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I did.

0:38:470:38:49

There was a time when we first got together that

0:38:490:38:51

I did consider getting out of the relationship,

0:38:510:38:53

cos I thought, "I understand the condition.

0:38:530:38:55

"Am I strong enough to cope with it?"

0:38:550:38:57

In our formative stages of our relationship, Paul did

0:38:570:39:00

have a couple of highs, and when you try and bring someone down,

0:39:000:39:05

when you try and force someone down from a high, it's...

0:39:050:39:09

it's very difficult. It is very difficult.

0:39:090:39:11

And he has, in the past, said some pretty hurtful,

0:39:110:39:15

quite damning things to me,

0:39:150:39:17

but I know that's not him saying it.

0:39:170:39:20

I know. My dad's done it a lot of times.

0:39:200:39:23

I take it personally. You have to remember it's not them.

0:39:230:39:25

I did to begin with. That's one reason why I considered getting out,

0:39:250:39:28

cos I thought, "My God, this person's horrible."

0:39:280:39:31

The way he described it to me was like realising you've got

0:39:310:39:33

a winning lottery ticket and someone taking it off of you.

0:39:330:39:36

-You will do anything to keep hold of that winning sensation.

-Yeah.

0:39:360:39:40

In actual fact, if Paul didn't have bipolar,

0:39:400:39:43

I think he'd be pretty dull.

0:39:430:39:44

Are you done yet or not?

0:39:440:39:46

He doesn't want to be left out of it, does he?

0:39:460:39:49

-It's all about me, me, me!

-It is!

0:39:490:39:51

THEY LAUGH

0:39:510:39:53

Paul and Rob have moved in with Paul's mum and dad.

0:39:530:39:56

It's an arrangement that works for all of them.

0:39:560:39:59

Well, not only is Paul bipolar, my husband is bipolar.

0:39:590:40:03

Their illness affects them both.

0:40:030:40:05

How do you find living with a son and husband having bipolar?

0:40:050:40:09

If I'm honest, really hard.

0:40:110:40:12

I cope better, actually - and I know it sounds awful - with the lows.

0:40:120:40:16

-I know my dad's safe when he's low.

-Yeah.

0:40:160:40:19

In a way, cos he'll be at home.

0:40:190:40:20

Doesn't move out of the chair,

0:40:200:40:22

I have to tell him to drink, eat, sleep.

0:40:220:40:25

The only downside for the lows is if they're suicidal.

0:40:250:40:28

Cos then you feel that you can't leave them.

0:40:280:40:30

The highs, you're just not aware, half the time,

0:40:300:40:35

till the police turn up at your door or, you know...

0:40:350:40:38

So actually, you've had that, the police?

0:40:380:40:40

Norman's gone off and disappeared and we've not known where he is.

0:40:400:40:44

And he hadn't known where he is.

0:40:440:40:46

What his name was, or anything.

0:40:460:40:48

I get really angry sometimes with Norman.

0:40:480:40:49

He looks like my husband, he sounds like it,

0:40:490:40:51

but I've got an alien stood there and I can't...

0:40:510:40:54

I don't know if you get it with your dad, but I can't reach him.

0:40:540:40:58

We all need the clinical side of things,

0:40:590:41:01

but, actually, it's your family and friends,

0:41:010:41:04

if you're fortunate enough to have them, that are the make or break.

0:41:040:41:08

They don't have an ulterior motive.

0:41:080:41:10

All they care about is my wellness.

0:41:100:41:12

The key thing that I think that's helped is belonging to

0:41:120:41:16

a support group, to talk to other people

0:41:160:41:19

who are living the experience.

0:41:190:41:21

We've all gone to the groups together.

0:41:210:41:22

It's amazing just how open some people can be.

0:41:220:41:25

The more you know, the more you can deal with it.

0:41:250:41:29

'What Paul Scates and his family said makes sense.

0:41:320:41:35

'It's got me thinking about my sister Nicola.'

0:41:350:41:39

Hello, Daddy. Good luck for the fight

0:41:400:41:42

and I love you and I hope to see you soon.

0:41:420:41:44

'Of all us kids, Nicola has borne the brunt of Dad's illness.

0:41:440:41:48

'Since the age of 12, she's tried to hold the family together.

0:41:490:41:54

'First through my parents' divorce, then as my dad's next of kin.

0:41:550:41:59

'She was the one who signed the papers to have him sectioned.

0:41:590:42:03

'I found a local self-help group for bipolar sufferers

0:42:040:42:07

'and their families, and I've decided to take my sister along.'

0:42:070:42:11

Hello.

0:42:110:42:12

-I'm Rachel.

-Hi, Rachel.

-Hello.

0:42:120:42:15

So, does anyone want to start at all?

0:42:150:42:17

I do feel like I don't have as much of a social life as I should

0:42:220:42:26

at my age because I feel like I...

0:42:260:42:28

It's my responsibility to be there looking after Mum.

0:42:280:42:32

I feel like I am not being a teenager. I feel like I'm a parent.

0:42:320:42:36

Can I broach the subject of being sectioned?

0:42:380:42:42

Losing my mum was the worst.

0:42:430:42:45

It took me so long to build back that relationship with her

0:42:450:42:50

and I did feel blamed.

0:42:500:42:52

My mum would turn round and say, "Oh, look what you've done to me."

0:42:520:42:56

And I hadn't done anything.

0:42:560:42:57

All I tried to do was help but...

0:42:570:43:00

I think that you are a fantastic daughter.

0:43:000:43:03

Absolute fantastic daughter.

0:43:030:43:06

I just think what you said is really nice to hear,

0:43:130:43:16

because I am sure everyone here can relate,

0:43:160:43:20

but when someone turns around and says that to you after

0:43:200:43:25

everything you've done, it makes a difference because,

0:43:250:43:29

I'm sure you two can relate,

0:43:290:43:30

you don't feel like you're ever doing enough.

0:43:300:43:32

-NICOLA:

-No, you never feel you do enough to help.

0:43:320:43:35

You won't ever get, "I'm proud," or, "Thank you very much."

0:43:350:43:38

I have never had a thank you.

0:43:380:43:39

I had two breakdowns last year and it does still affect me

0:43:410:43:44

to this day every so often

0:43:440:43:46

but this time I've now had to just block it out.

0:43:460:43:48

I said from last year that she now has to look after herself

0:43:480:43:51

because I don't want to lose my sister, like I did last year,

0:43:510:43:54

and that is what makes the anger come out of me because she just...

0:43:540:43:58

Like, you could have potentially lost your new relationship and

0:43:580:44:01

that's because of the stress of my dad and his illness has put on her.

0:44:010:44:05

I said, "You have got to get to a point, you are 30 years old now.

0:44:050:44:08

"You are to be having kids yourself soon

0:44:080:44:10

"and you can't go through this again."

0:44:100:44:12

How does a person with bipolar want to be treated?

0:44:140:44:18

I think I want to be treated as poor with bipolar,

0:44:180:44:24

rather than suffering from a disease.

0:44:240:44:28

I don't want to let my disease take over my life.

0:44:280:44:32

I felt, initially, I was living in a goldfish bowl under observation.

0:44:320:44:38

If Dad tells a joke and he is laughing too much,

0:44:380:44:42

that maybe he is going high.

0:44:420:44:45

If someone asks you a question, what would be the one thing

0:44:450:44:49

-that you don't want them to ask you about your bipolar?

-Ask me?

-Yeah.

0:44:490:44:54

-I don't have any restrictions.

-Right.

0:44:540:44:57

For instance, my one would be, "Are you still taking your medication?"

0:44:570:45:01

I don't like that at all.

0:45:020:45:04

For me, it's a kind of trust thing, so they don't trust me.

0:45:050:45:09

We'll end it there. I just want to thank you all for coming.

0:45:110:45:14

Brilliant discussion. And a safe journey home.

0:45:140:45:17

ALL: Thank you very much.

0:45:170:45:20

-INTERVIEWER: It's a big step tonight?

-I feel like it is.

0:45:210:45:24

I feel like I got a new Thursday night plan in my diary.

0:45:240:45:27

I'd like to come back. I thought it'd be everybody saying,

0:45:270:45:30

"Yeah, my family member's got bipolar and we have

0:45:300:45:32

"the greatest relationship. We get on great,"

0:45:320:45:34

but it's nice to know that everybody hasn't got that fairy-tale ending.

0:45:340:45:38

-They've got exactly the same unbalanced...

-Unstable.

0:45:380:45:41

..reality as what we've got.

0:45:410:45:43

-See you later, girls.

-See you soon.

0:45:440:45:47

'It seems like, for the first time in years,

0:45:470:45:49

'we are taking a step forward.'

0:45:490:45:52

-ANNOUNCER:

-OK, ladies and gentlemen, now for your very special guest,

0:45:520:45:55

a young man who is known as

0:45:550:45:56

Britain's best loved sportsman ever - Mr Frank Bruno.

0:45:560:46:01

'And Dad is making progress too.

0:46:030:46:05

'He is well enough to get back to work making public appearances.'

0:46:060:46:10

There is a stigma with a breakdown and a mental illness, Frank,

0:46:100:46:13

and you suffered that, especially in your early days.

0:46:130:46:16

Yeah, I've got bi-polo, you know what I mean?

0:46:160:46:18

I don't know what it is but it's a very, very...

0:46:180:46:21

Excuse me.

0:46:210:46:22

HE LAUGHS

0:46:220:46:25

That one touched you, yeah?

0:46:250:46:27

I think there is a lady in the room today what's got bi-polo.

0:46:290:46:32

I ain't going to mention no names to embarrass her or whatever.

0:46:320:46:35

Years ago, people used to look at mental health and whatever

0:46:350:46:38

and cross the road and, "Look at that nutter,"

0:46:380:46:40

but people are tending to ease off a little bit

0:46:400:46:43

because it could be their mother, their sister, their brother.

0:46:430:46:46

It could happen to a teacher, it could happen to a nurse,

0:46:460:46:48

it could happen to anybody.

0:46:480:46:50

Hi, Dad.

0:47:070:47:09

That's all right, I'm not rushing you,

0:47:090:47:11

I'm just ringing to see where you are. Just to check.

0:47:110:47:13

'I'm beginning to realise it's important

0:47:130:47:15

'to just spend time with Dad. No more questions about bipolar.

0:47:150:47:19

'So I have arranged to meet him to do some shopping

0:47:210:47:23

'and help him out with a few things.'

0:47:230:47:25

-I was getting passport...

-Rach?

-Yeah?

-Press...

0:47:300:47:35

-Look... You have got to look there then, yeah?

-All right.

0:47:350:47:39

He is getting a new photo for his driving licence.

0:47:390:47:41

He's got to sort his driving licence out.

0:47:410:47:44

-Rach?

-Yeah?

-What have you got to do now?

0:47:460:47:50

"Your photo may not..." Oh, that's why.

0:47:500:47:53

You're not allowed to smile.

0:47:530:47:55

-Not allowed to smile?

-No, not for a passport.

0:47:550:47:57

-No?

-No.

0:47:570:47:59

-You'll definitely feel the spring when you step.

-Oh, will, I?

0:47:590:48:02

'I'm hoping Dad will help me choose some trainers for the marathon.'

0:48:020:48:06

Do you reckon they're a bit...?

0:48:060:48:08

-Really bright, aren't they?

-Rachel, it's comfort.

0:48:080:48:10

You've got to go for comfort rather than what colour they are.

0:48:100:48:14

'When my dad is manic, he can't stop shopping.

0:48:140:48:17

'But today, like most dads, he's bored.'

0:48:170:48:20

Do you reckon you'll come and watch me do the marathon?

0:48:200:48:22

-I'm not too sure, you know?

-Why?

-I'm not too sure.

0:48:220:48:25

-I might do if I'm not busy.

-I am running it for you,

0:48:250:48:27

so you better freaking make yourself free, you know?

0:48:270:48:30

Why are you not coming to the marathon, Dad?

0:48:330:48:35

-Why might not you come?

-I didn't say...

0:48:350:48:37

I'm not too sure, Rachel. I might be busy. I'm not too sure.

0:48:370:48:40

Dad was a bit quiet, I think. Quieter than usual today.

0:48:420:48:45

I think he wanted to get away quick. But I'm used to that.

0:48:450:48:49

He is always kind of like that.

0:48:490:48:51

Which is a bit of a shame so I didn't want to press too much.

0:48:510:48:53

It was nice of him to come and get them trainers with me, really.

0:48:530:48:56

I just hope he comes and watches the marathon now cos

0:48:560:48:59

he still seems a bit unsure about that.

0:48:590:49:02

When you get older, you will be watching this

0:49:020:49:04

and what will you be thinking when you get old?

0:49:040:49:07

Will you be saying, "Oh, my God?"

0:49:070:49:11

Oh, that's me when I was younger!

0:49:110:49:13

'Making this film is raking up a lot of emotions for me.

0:49:150:49:19

'And it is forcing me to think about my own life.

0:49:190:49:21

'If I'm honest,

0:49:220:49:24

'one of my deepest fears is that I'm going to get bipolar too.'

0:49:240:49:28

Some days I do get really low and I'm like,

0:49:280:49:30

"I can't be bothered to get out of bed or go to the gym."

0:49:300:49:33

Even from recently looking at old family videos,

0:49:330:49:36

I've always been this hyperactive, in-your-face kind of person.

0:49:360:49:40

If I'm quite stressed or I've got a lot of things going on at one time,

0:49:400:49:44

I do wake up in the night. I even ran into my bedroom door.

0:49:440:49:47

My mum heard the bang.

0:49:470:49:49

Then I went into my sister's room and I could not slow my heart down.

0:49:490:49:53

I couldn't get it under control.

0:49:530:49:55

'I know there are stats that say you are 10 times more likely to

0:49:550:49:58

'get bipolar if you have got a parent who has got it

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'and that really preys on my mind.'

0:50:020:50:04

I think there was someone in Dominica, on his dad's side,

0:50:050:50:08

who had a history of mental illness.

0:50:080:50:12

Some people in his family, I think, have got something.

0:50:120:50:15

I don't know what form of bipolar or what they've got. I don't know.

0:50:150:50:19

I know now, from speaking to people

0:50:190:50:20

and obviously doing this documentary, that it can be

0:50:200:50:23

triggered by something so that is quite worrying.

0:50:230:50:25

In the future I don't want to have to go through something

0:50:250:50:28

really hard in life and then suddenly I've got bipolar.

0:50:280:50:31

'I'm on my way back to visit psychiatrist Mark Salter.

0:50:370:50:41

'I need him to be completely straight with me about the risks.'

0:50:410:50:44

-Good to see you.

-Good to see you too.

0:50:440:50:46

Your risk of being vulnerable to bipolar disorder is significantly up.

0:50:460:50:50

-There's no doubt about that.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

0:50:500:50:52

That is to say that, you know,

0:50:520:50:53

you have inherited a genetic vulnerability to it.

0:50:530:50:57

But remember, genetics is not the same as destiny.

0:50:570:50:59

Just cos you've got the gene doesn't mean to say you've got the condition.

0:50:590:51:02

You'll hear an awful lot of things talked, especially on the internet

0:51:020:51:05

where you get some quite sensationalist things -

0:51:050:51:07

people that say it is ten times greater risk.

0:51:070:51:09

That's not a ten times greater chance of getting the illness

0:51:090:51:12

because, remember, genetics is only one small part of the story.

0:51:120:51:16

It's the life you live, it's the things you do,

0:51:160:51:19

it's kind of the, if you like, stuff that happens to you.

0:51:190:51:22

Rachel, have you had repeated blows to the head since the age of 15,

0:51:220:51:25

-day in, day out?

-No, I haven't.

-No.

0:51:250:51:27

Have you found yourself catapulted into fame,

0:51:270:51:31

or having a cocaine dealer

0:51:310:51:32

just a phone call away any time you wanted it?

0:51:320:51:35

You've probably had more love in your life

0:51:350:51:37

-and stability in your life than your dad did.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:51:370:51:40

Obviously his dad died when he was young, he went to boarding school.

0:51:400:51:44

I have definitely been around a more loving family,

0:51:440:51:47

-my family, growing up.

-Now, those things are protective.

0:51:470:51:51

So much of what we have been talking about is about not, you know,

0:51:510:51:54

being this fragile person who could crack at any moment

0:51:540:51:57

but by making, doing and living a life that makes you strong.

0:51:570:52:01

It's not like you have got "high risk" tattooed

0:52:010:52:03

across your forehead because of what's in your DNA.

0:52:030:52:06

And there is nothing wrong with having intense moods.

0:52:060:52:09

Yeah, it's normal. It's...

0:52:090:52:11

You're young, clever, beautiful,

0:52:110:52:12

you've got the whole world ahead of you and you are,

0:52:120:52:15

because of those things, going to have a bit of a roller coaster.

0:52:150:52:17

-Yeah, up and down. Yeah.

-You know, let's face it,

0:52:170:52:20

-anyone whose life isn't a bit of a roller coaster isn't living.

-Yeah.

0:52:200:52:23

-That's the way I see it.

-A bit boring, really.

-Absolutely.

0:52:230:52:27

-Good luck to you.

-See you later. Thank you very much.

0:52:270:52:29

-Take care, Rachel.

-Thank you.

-Have fun.

-Yes, I will.

0:52:290:52:32

'I've learned a lot about bipolar these last few months

0:52:350:52:38

'and I feel it is time to share some of my experiences with Dad.'

0:52:380:52:42

I didn't realise how important it was for me to do this because

0:52:440:52:47

when I first started it, I felt really angry but I didn't know why.

0:52:470:52:50

-Angry?

-Just cos you were ill and I couldn't help you

0:52:500:52:53

and you'd just come out of hospital.

0:52:530:52:55

I thought, "I've lost my dad again. Is he going to come back around?"

0:52:550:52:59

And I kept saying, "I want an apology. I want a sorry,"

0:52:590:53:02

cos sometimes some of the stuff you could say when you've been

0:53:020:53:06

manic but you can't remember it can be quite hurtful.

0:53:060:53:10

-Yeah.

-But I feel, like, stupid to focus on that apology and get

0:53:100:53:14

-so upset about it.

-What, an apology from me?

0:53:140:53:17

No, yeah, cos sometimes you can be a bit aggressive or just shout

0:53:170:53:21

-but it wasn't you.

-Hmm.

0:53:210:53:22

I find it easier to deal with the fact that you've got this for

0:53:220:53:26

the rest of your life and I'm always going to be here to support you

0:53:260:53:28

and I have just got to trust you and I didn't realise...

0:53:280:53:32

One guy said he hates his kids asking him, "How are you feeling?

0:53:320:53:35

"Have you taken your medication today?"

0:53:350:53:37

-Yeah.

-I shouldn't have to ask you that, should I, really? It's not...

0:53:370:53:40

What's wrong with asking me that?

0:53:400:53:42

-I just think I should trust you and just be like, "Well, OK."

-Yeah.

0:53:420:53:45

-It's something you've got to do, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:53:450:53:47

At the end of the day, the law states I've got to take the medication.

0:53:470:53:52

It's me taking the medication for my own good, you know what I mean?

0:53:520:53:56

That's... That is...

0:53:560:53:57

I actually didn't think I'd ever hear you probably say that.

0:53:570:54:00

-What's that?

-You've got to take the medication for your own good.

0:54:000:54:02

-Yeah, I've got to take it for my own good, know what I mean?

-That's good.

0:54:020:54:06

I've just got to get on with life, you know?

0:54:060:54:08

There is much more worser things people's got than bi-polo.

0:54:080:54:12

I know. I love the way you call it bi-polo as well.

0:54:120:54:14

HE CHUCKLES

0:54:140:54:15

Would there be anything you'd want us kids to do differently?

0:54:170:54:20

No, not really. At all. You know what I mean?

0:54:200:54:23

I wish you could ring a little bit more but you've got your lives

0:54:230:54:27

and whatever that it's no biggie. Biggie Small.

0:54:270:54:30

-I'd try and ring but I'm not really a ringer, really.

-No.

0:54:310:54:35

No, I should have rang you

0:54:360:54:37

more last year but I never could cope with you being ill.

0:54:370:54:40

When I see you like that,

0:54:400:54:42

it makes me back off cos I'm like, "I'm scared."

0:54:420:54:45

-And now, it's like it's not so scary cos I know about it.

-Yeah.

0:54:450:54:48

I know what you're going...

0:54:480:54:49

Well, I don't know physically what you're going through,

0:54:490:54:52

-I just know what you need. Just got to be there.

-Yeah.

0:54:520:54:54

I'd love for you to end up with a lady here,

0:54:540:54:56

-move in, someone to take care of you.

-Say it again.

0:54:560:54:59

I'd love for you to have a woman.

0:54:590:55:01

I don't think I could move in with a lady, to be quite honest.

0:55:010:55:04

Do you know what I mean?

0:55:040:55:05

Imagine being an old man, like, when you're getting older,

0:55:050:55:07

you need to have some company.

0:55:070:55:09

-She'll bake you cakes in the kitchen.

-Cakes?

0:55:090:55:12

-HE LAUGHS

-She can make you Sunday roasts.

0:55:120:55:14

I can look after myself, you know what I mean?

0:55:140:55:17

I don't want to be a burden.

0:55:170:55:19

You're not a burden at all.

0:55:190:55:21

-See you later.

-Take it easy.

-I'll text you when I get home safe.

0:55:220:55:25

All right. Look after yourself.

0:55:250:55:27

See you later. Take it easy.

0:55:280:55:29

It says, "26.2 is your bitch. Go, Raci B!"

0:55:420:55:45

-How are you feeling, Mum? Are you nervous?

-I am, yes.

0:55:460:55:48

-Rather you than me.

-Really?

0:55:480:55:51

I've been training for this for ages now so I just want to get there

0:55:510:55:54

and hopefully make everyone proud and finish it.

0:55:540:55:56

-INTERVIEWER:

-Is your dad definitely coming?

0:55:560:55:58

Yeah, he's going to be at the finish line. He just rang me

0:55:580:56:01

and wished me luck, so he'll be there.

0:56:010:56:03

So it's good to have everyone here that loves me.

0:56:030:56:06

-Good luck.

-Group hug.

0:56:060:56:07

You'll be amazing.

0:56:070:56:09

CHEERING

0:56:090:56:11

Well done. Well done. Well done.

0:56:250:56:29

Hello there. Well done, man.

0:56:290:56:30

Well done.

0:56:300:56:32

Barefoot? No, you're joking! I can smell the cheese!

0:56:320:56:35

HE LAUGHS

0:56:350:56:37

My daughter's running the race for Mind

0:56:370:56:39

-so I'm just coming to support as her dad.

-Fantastic.

0:56:390:56:42

-Do you know how she's getting on today?

-I'm not too sure.

0:56:420:56:45

Any time now, she'll be coming in. She's done very well, you know?

0:56:450:56:48

I'm very proud of her.

0:56:480:56:50

Are you all right? Wicked. Well done. Hello, Rach. You all right?

0:56:530:56:55

-Oh, my God.

-Was it hard?

-Yeah.

0:56:550:56:58

HE LAUGHS

0:56:580:57:01

-Are you all right? What's the matter?

-It's really hard.

0:57:010:57:04

You're right, it's the hardest thing ever.

0:57:040:57:07

-Thanks for coming, Dad.

-Yeah, no problem. No problem, man.

0:57:070:57:10

No problem, no problem, no problem at all, darling.

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