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Going to wish the kids good night. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-Rach? -Yeah. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
-Where are you? -Here. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
-Oh. Hello. -Are you all right? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
'That's me aged eight. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
'And that's my dad behind the camera.' | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
-What do you want to say to me? -Goodbye, Daddy. I love you. -Yeah? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Are you going to miss me? | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
I'm going to miss you, as well. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
'I knew what Dad going away meant.' | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
-SOBS: -I don't want you to go, Daddy! | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Oh, no, Rach, Rach, Rach, Rach, Rach. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
CROWD ROAR | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Dad was a boxer. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
In fact, he was once Heavyweight Champion of the World. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
Hello, Laura, darling. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
And hello, Nicola and Rach, I love you very much. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
I'll be coming home soon, darling. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Are you ready to order, at all? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Or a bit longer? Sure, that's fine! | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
'I'm 26 now, and my name is Rachel Bruno.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
My dad used to be a boxer. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Frank Bruno. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
-No, you're joking...! -Yeah. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Half the time people don't believe me, and think I'm lying. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
I think they probably think, "Why do you work in a restaurant?" | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Some people do look down their noses at me sometimes, but... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
I don't really care. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
'In his day, my dad was a national hero...' | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Is this the champion's belt? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
I never take it off, Noel. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
You know what I mean, Harry? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
'..then, it all went wrong. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
'In the space of a few years, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
'he went from world champion to patient in a psychiatric hospital.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
-Is he all right? -Yeah, he's doing good. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
He's getting better. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
-It's a hard illness to cope with, as a family. -Yes, yes. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
It does break up a family. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
Yeah. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
'People think they know my dad, but they've no idea. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
'Dad's bipolar disorder has devastated our family. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
'Now I want to understand the illness that has taken him from me, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
'and try to find the dad I once knew.' | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
RINGING TONE | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
-'Hello.' -Hi, dad. -'Hello, Rach. You all right?' | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Just let you know, we've just left, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
so hopefully we won't be that long. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
'All right, no problem, Rach. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
'Just focus... Don't worry about the time. Just drive carefully, yeah?' | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Yeah, no, I will do. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
'All right, see you later, Rach.' | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
OK, see you soon, Dad. Bye. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
'Bye, darling. Bye. Bye.' | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
'My dad has bipolar disorder | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
'which means his moods can swing from manic highs to terrible lows. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
'He was sectioned twice last year | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'and taken into psychiatric care against his wishes. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
'He's been out a couple of months now, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
'and is back home and on medication to keep him stable.' | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
The thing is, it's hard because he doesn't live around the corner | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
so I can't keep an eye on him. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
I just hope he's still, like, taking the medication. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
He knows that he's got to get better really. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
I think he knows. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
It worries me, because I don't really | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
talk about my dad's illness with him. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
'This is the first time I've been to Dad's house in over a year.' | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
-Come on. -Thank you. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Make yourself at home. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-Thank you. -Do you want to cup of tea or something? -I'd love one, please. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Have you been going gym? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
No, no, I haven't been... Not this week. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Have you lost your, like, motivation? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
No, not lost motivation. Just can't be bothered. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Can't be bothered. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
-Do you take sugar? -Er, yes, please. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Thank you. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
So, how are you feeling? Are you feeling better? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
-Better? What do you mean "better"? -Just better in yourself? -Yeah. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
What, don't I look better? | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
-No, you do. -Oh. -I think you look really well. -OK. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
I think you look really, really well. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
You look nervous. What's the matter with you? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, I don't know, because obviously, I'm doing this programme, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-and I am grateful that you're letting me do it, cos... -Sorry? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
I'm grateful to you for letting me go ahead and film this... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Because it's private, isn't it? We don't really... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
-You don't really talk about it to the public too much... -Yeah. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
..about your illness. I have been getting quite anxious about it. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Don't worry about the public, just chill out and relax yourself, girl. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
Ask what questions you want to ask. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
As long as it doesn't upset you, that's the main thing, isn't it? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
Don't worry about upsetting me. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
I keep busy all the time, you know. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I'm cleaning up the house. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Dust up. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Mop. Hoover. Do bits and pieces. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And you think that helps you, yeah? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Well, it's good for me. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
What programme are you on with the doctors at the moment? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-What do you mean "what programme am I on"? -Like medication. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-Are you still... -Yeah, I am taking medication, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
but I'm not too sure what the medication is. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
But I am on medication, yeah. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Do they come round, or do you go to them? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
No, they come round. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Have you got a nice team of doctors? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Um, they are very intrusive. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
Very nosy. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
Sometimes I don't know why they got to give you all this powerful... | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-Yeah. -..medication for, you know what I mean? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
That's my...my... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
I'm trying to get off the medication, Rach. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
I don't want to be like a zombie for the rest of my life. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
I do worry about you. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Don't like you being this far out on your own. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
But I suppose you like it? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
There is a reason why I came this far. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
CHUCKLES | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
I'm surprised you haven't got any animals here. A dog, or something. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-Animals... -You don't want one? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
No. I don't want a dog. What do I want a dog for? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-A dog's a man's best friend. -Is it? | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
-Yeah? -Nah! | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-You look after yourself, yeah? -Thank you, Dad. -Cheers, nice one. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-Drive safely, carefully. -I will. -Yeah. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
I think he handled it well today. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
All of last year, we haven't really had a relationship, so... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
our relationship is strained. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
And it's weird going round there | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
and talking about his illness and stuff. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I found it a bit awkward at times | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
because he's still in a fragile state, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
so I don't want to tip him. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
-VIDEO: 'Comes out wicked, don't it? -Oh, wicked! | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
'Here you are, do some of me. And Rach.' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
FRANK AND FRANKLYN CHAT ON VIDEO | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
How young Dad looks! | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
He was young, though. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Did you get this camera for Christmas? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
No, he'd just got it this Christmas and charged it up. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I think this is the Christmas Day. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-Cleared out. It's clear, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
'I still live with my sister Nicola and my brother Franklyn. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
'We grew up in a big house in the country. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
'With everything kids could possibly want.' | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
This is my wife. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
And this is my baby boy in here. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
'Dad was fun to be around.' | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
FRANK CHUCKLES | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
'Always joking and making an arse of himself!' | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
That is disgusting, Daddy. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
He was so naughty, wasn't he? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
It's weird seeing dad like this, because I never really... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
I can never remember Dad like this. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
'Our whole family life has been changed by our dad's bipolar, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
'also known as manic depression. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
'At times my dad's been so manic, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
'he hasn't known who he is. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
'And at other times he has been so depressed | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
'he can barely get out of bed. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
'I don't really think I've grasped what is my dad, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
'and what is his illness yet. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
'And I don't think Nicola or Franklyn have either. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
'But at least me and my sister | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
'sort of got to know the real dad and the normal dad.' | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
For a little, short time. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
Just make sure you look after the kids | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
and look after Mummy, and the baby. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
'Unfortunately, Franklyn's been born into my dad's illness. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
'And he hasn't ever seen my dad normal. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
'And it's sad that the son that he so wanted, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
'the bipolar takes that all that away, I think.' | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Because he doesn't know how to be a dad. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
He can't be a dad when he's ill. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-NEWS PRESENTER: -Frank Bruno arrived back in Britain today | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
after his crushing defeat at the hands of Mike Tyson. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
'My dad's career came to a sudden end in 1996. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
'He'd been the World Heavyweight Champion for just six months. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
'He was defeated by Mike Tyson in a fight | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
'that left my dad's eye badly injured. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
'Doctors told him he risked going blind if he ever fought again.' | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
I'm just here to say that I'm officially retired | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
and the door is going to be open for me to spend more time | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
with my family, you know. Be a father. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
'But retirement hit dad and our family hard. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
'Everything soon spiralled out of control.' | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
One of this country's best-loved sportsmen, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Frank Bruno, is in a mental hospital tonight. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
It's believed the boxer, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
who was escorted from his home in Essex last night | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
by police and paramedics, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
has been sectioned under the Mental Health Act. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
'In September 2003, after months of erratic behaviour, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
'my dad was committed to a psychiatric hospital | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
'for the first time. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
'I was just 16.' | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
It just sent our family up in turmoil, really, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
because a celebrity hadn't ever been sectioned, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
so the hype it caused with the press... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
We were hounded all the time, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
they were literally camped outside our house. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -'41-year-old Frank Bruno now faces his most difficult bout. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
'The former World Champion has been committed | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
'while his state of mind is assessed.' | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
It took nine hours to get actually in the ambulance. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
I think he did get a bit aggressive, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
and the police officers tripped him up to inject him. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
It was sad, because he was like a child. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
He was begging us not to do it. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-NEWS REPORTER: -'Behind the darkened windows, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
'Frank Bruno's family arrive at the hospital. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
'Bruno is finally getting the help so many had urged him to seek.' | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
'Ten years on, I'm revisiting the hospital where my dad was locked up. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
'To try and understand more about what happened.' | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
-I don't know if you remember this door... -Yep, I do. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
This was probably the door you would've... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
This is what, um, the door. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
..come to the actual ward. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
My dad on the other side - where all the patients and him would wait. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
And we'd have to exit. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
But I do think we went through... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
We used to go through that door. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Obviously, there was quite a lot of press here at the time, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
so we had to avoid them. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
This is Picasso Ward, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-as was. -OK, yeah. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
This is a day area. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
I remember that. And I remember we had a chat in here. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
And that used to be the smoking room, I think. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
Before the smoking ban. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
That was where my dad tried to set my sister up with a patient. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-Oh, right. -CHUCKLES | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-Sounds like you have got very clear memories. -I have now, yeah! | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
What were the questions in your mind that you were thinking about? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Actually, at the time, I had no clue about what bipolar was. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
I had no clue really what was happening to my dad. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I just... I just thought he'd had a breakdown, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
or lost it, or something. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
And also from seeing him so sedated, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
I didn't think he'd actually come back from that. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
This is the area to which someone will be brought, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
when they're brought by the police | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
under what's called Section 136 of the Mental Health Act. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Why would someone with bipolar need to be sectioned? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
There's a huge variety of severities of this condition. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
They might be over-active, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
have all sorts of grandiose, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
or unfeasible plans and schemes... | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
And because there's a loss of judgment, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
the person will typically not necessarily realise | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
that they're unwell and needing treatment. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Sometimes the only way then to persuade, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
or to get the person to have treatment, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
is to take away their freedom and detain them - section them. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
What behaviour led up to your dad being sectioned? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
He had a massive boxing ring that he fought in, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
he put that in his garden and slept in it. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
He was walking around our local high street with no shoes on. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
When we'd go and visit him he had loads of incense and he'd be... | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
whoofing 'em around everywhere. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
He'd hear voices, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
he thought he was other people at times. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
He was acting really strange. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
At that time, I didn't really understand | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
why they were taking my dad away. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
I didn't know that when I'd see him next he'd be a zombie, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
crouched over a seat | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
who couldn't really speak | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
or even lift his head to give us a kiss goodbye. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
That was really heartbreaking. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
'I know how hard it was for me at the time, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
'but I want to find out what it was like for my sister Nicola. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
'Because she was the one | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
'who had to sign the papers to have Dad sectioned.' | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
-How old was you? -Er...20. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And you had to sign Dad in, didn't you? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
I did, cos obviously I was his next of kin | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
because he and Mum were divorced. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
And, obviously, it's horrible, because you don't want to see | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
your dad having to go into hospital, but that was the last resort. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
We all said at the time, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
we agreed that we wouldn't tell him who signed the papers. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I don't know who told him, but somebody told him | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
that I signed him in | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
and he was just very hostile towards me. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
He was looking at me like he just wanted to kill me. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
It affected your relationship with him for a long time, didn't it? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
He didn't start talking to me properly or have any, like, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
interest in me probably until I was about 28. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
He always made it feel that, "Oh, I can't have a laugh with Nicola, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
"because she may get me sectioned." | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Do you feel guilty in any way? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
It made you feel guilty as soon as you did it, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
but I just had to be strong and say I did it for the right reasons. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Where would he be now if he wasn't sectioned? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Totally, I don't think he... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-Would he be alive? -Yeah... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
-That's what I think. -Would he have anything left to his name? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Would he be wrapped around a tree because of the way he drives? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Would someone else have hurt him | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
because of the way he was antagonising people? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
What would have happened? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
Because he's invincible. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
When he's manic, he's invincible. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
He's dominated my whole life, for... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
18... | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
12 years. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
12 years he has dominated it, from me worrying about him. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
But I have to be honest, he's not worried about me. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
He's not worried about how my life is going. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
He doesn't care, but... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
at the end of the day, I love my dad | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
and I'm never stopped loving him, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
but if I ever got ill, would he do the same for me? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
But I don't do it for him to do it for me. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
But, you know what, you've... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
I'm proud of you for taking on that responsibility all these years. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I couldn't be as strong as you. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
'Although Dad has told me I can ask him anything, I'm still | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
'nervous of his moods and I don't want to push him or make him angry. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
'So I'm going to meet someone who might be easier to talk to.' | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Come on then. Let's get a sweat on. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
May the best man win. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Dave Sheen has bipolar. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
That's a really good one, Dan. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Life's all about focus. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
'He's the same age as my dad, is divorced and has three kids, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
'just like our family.' | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
-Hello! I'm Rachel. -It's a left handshake. I broke my right hand. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
-I won't grab it, then. -You're really pretty, aren't you? -Oh, thank you. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-So how old are you then? -14. -You're 14. -Yeah. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
You're about the same age... When my dad was first sectioned, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
you're about the same age as I was. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Can you describe your dad as a person? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
He's very loving. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
Very generous. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-But a bit short-tempered at the same time. -Yeah. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
So, how is your dad to you today? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Do you think he's level today? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
-Yeah. He is in a good mood. -He seems to be happy. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
He seems happy to me. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
You only see me when I'm happy. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
-I never show 'em really when I'm down. -Oh, do you not? | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Love you. See you soon, all right? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
-See you later. -See you soon. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
-Seems funny, letting them walk away. -Do you get sad? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
-Don't like it? -No, I don't. No. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
-You know what makes me happy? -What? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
-Music? Oh! -It's proper music. Like reggae music. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
Never fails to make me happy. A bit of this. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
MUSIC: "Leaving on a Jet Plane" | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
# I will dream about the days to come | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
# When I won't have to leave you alone... # | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Dave was a successful businessman and multimillionaire | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
until his diagnosis six years ago. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
# ..So kiss me and smile for me... # | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
So we're in a Hyundai at the moment. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Have you always driven this sort of car? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
No, I've only had it two months. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
I didn't have a car. I didn't have no money. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
When you did have money, what cars did you have? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
I've had every Mercedes ever built. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
I used to pick the kids up from a different car every time at school. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
-I only used it ever wear designer clothes. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Do you think your bipolar helped to become successful? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-100%. -What's that? 100%? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
100%, yeah. Cos it gives you the drive. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
That's what it does, it drives you. It drives you insane in the end, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
but it drives you to get what you want. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
If you want something, you'll get it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
So, where are we going, Dave? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
We're going to go back to the barn conversions that I built. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Is this where you lived with your wife? Your ex-wife and kids? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
That's right, yeah. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
That was the first one I done. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
There's the farmhouse. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
They're sold to two footballers, these are. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-MAN: -But you used to own all this? -Yeah, I owned the lot. Yeah. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
I mean, realistically, I had enough to retire on. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
I think, "Well, how did I lose that?" | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
How did you lose... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
How mad is it to try and work an earning to get it and then... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
And what was the reason why you lost that? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
I just had a breakdown. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
# ..I'm leaving on a jet plane | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
# Don't know when I'll be back again... # | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Home sweet home. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
So, which one is your one? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
The posh one with the black blinds, matching blinds. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
'Home now is a one-bedroom council flat.' | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Right then. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Look! Clean, look. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Oh, yeah. That is clean. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
-That is good. -Coffee. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
You've got all the essentials, haven't you? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-Everything in here's been given me. -Has it? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Washing machine, cooker, fridge. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
It's nice, though. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
-Now, come on, Rachel. -No, it is... -Be honest! | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-It ain't nice! -No, no, no. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
'Like my dad, Dave's been prescribed drugs for his mood swings.' | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
I'm not a snob. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
'But he's decided to stop taking them, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
'just like my dad has done in the past.' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-Why aren't you on medication? -I've tried it their way, remember. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
I tried tablets for three or four years. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
When I was on the tablets, it didn't make me go out and go to the shops. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-Right? -Right. -It didn't make me shave. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
It didn't make me wash. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
I'd be in bed for about a month, two months at a time. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
I was just like a zombie. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
And don't get me wrong, when I feel really bad, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I do start back on my tablets. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
So, if I went that bad where I thought I was going to do | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-one of them, I would go back on me tablets. -Yeah. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-But, you know... -What do you mean, do one of them? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Hang myself or something, I don't know. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-You know, you don't know, do you? -No. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-I mean, you get suicidal thoughts all the time. -Yeah. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-And your dad must get it as well. -I've never... He's never... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-He probably would never tell you. -Yeah. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-I wouldn't tell my children... -Yeah. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
..because that would be really hard. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
When I do get them, that's what I think about. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I think, "What would they say?" | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
How do you feel that your relationship | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
with your kids has been affected by bipolar? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Because I feel like I haven't got | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
the money to do anything with them, I don't do it. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
It affects me, because I think, you know, "I'm fat," or I was fat. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
It affects me cos I feel low. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Even though they're my own kids - and I don't want to say this - | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
sometimes I don't want to see them. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
It's not because I don't want to see them, it's cos I don't feel... | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I can't think of anything to say to them. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
It must affect them to see | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
what they used to have to what they have today. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Cos I used to be, "Everybody loves Dave." | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
"Everybody loves their dad." | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
You know? He'd be the funniest one in the pub. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
He'd have plenty of mates around him. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
It was an exciting life. There's always people at the house. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
And, all of a sudden, I'm not the centre of attraction. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-It was lovely meeting you. -Can we have a Spanish kiss? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
'I've heard Dave's side of things, but now | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
'I want to find out how his kids feel about having a bipolar dad.' | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
-Hello, are you all right? -Hello. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
He's seemed quite manic at the moment and, obviously, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
my dad can be like that at times. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Do you find that hard to be around him when he's like that? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-Mm. -Cos he's quite all over the place, isn't he? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-Yeah, like a bit loud and a bit jumpy. -Yeah. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
But does that upset you? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
I'm just used to it, I am. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
-He's just always like that. -Does that make you sad? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
A little bit, yeah. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
I wouldn't want dad to be here | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
when I have my friends round, or anything. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Cos in a way I'm kind of embarrassed to be next to him. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Do you find some of the stuff he says, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
when he's manic, a bit embarrassing? | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Yeah. It's like I wish he wasn't like how he is. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
I wish he was just like... I don't know, just like a normal dad | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
and was like how I see other people's families when I'm out. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
That's how I kind of see my dad sometimes. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-It's not normal, this illness they've got, is it? -Yeah. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I think for teenagers you've got to get over the embarrassment. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
It's understandable, you're going through that | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
certain age where you're trying to fit in | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
and be cool with your friends and it's not something you want | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
to shout about and be like, "Oh, yeah, hey, this is what's going on." | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
When I was a teenager, it took me a long time, I think | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
up until the age of my 20s, to be able to actually be open | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
and talk about my dad's illness to people. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
He's quite comical, Dave was. He likes a laugh about his illness. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
He said that sometimes he feels suicidal, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
when he could hang himself and that was quite hard to listen to. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
Cos my dad's never said that to me before. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
But my dad living on his own, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
I wouldn't want him to ever feel that low | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
like Dave has and think about suicide. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
That's not nice. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
Hello? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Hello? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Hi, Dad, you all right? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
Yeah, we went and met a family, a family in Birmingham | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
and the dad with, like, bipolar. It was quite interesting. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Yes, so I'm just on the train now. How are you? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Yeah, I'll give you a call when I get home, anyway. OK, Dad. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Speak to you soon. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Bye. Bye-bye. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
He seems well. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
He does, actually. He seems quite chirpy. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
'Dad was officially diagnosed with bipolar ten years ago, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
'but it's hard to know when it really began. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
'Looking back, I can see there were moments in my childhood when | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
'he would go over the top. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:49 | |
'He hired a helicopter for my brother Franklyn's christening... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
'..and Heart FM DJs for my birthday. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
'Now, I don't know if that was Dad being manic | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
'or whether it was just him enjoying his fame and fortune.' | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
-You know what I mean, Harry? -I'm not Harry. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
'I have to be honest. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
'I don't think I've ever had a clue what's | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
'going on inside my dad's head. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
'So I am hoping psychiatrist Dr Mark Salter | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
'can help me understand.' | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Manic depression, it's an illness like any other illness, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
but if you want to go a bit further and deeper into that, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
you ask yourself, "What does your brain do all day long?" | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-Think. -Tell me about it. It doesn't just think, does it? -No. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Think's a good one. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
You might say that's the icing on the cake. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-Like, the cherry on top, sort of thing. -Yeah. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
It feels. OK? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
It remembers. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
We tend to know that emotion and memory | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
are stored in what we call the bottom bits of the brain. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Down here is the drive. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
"I'm going win, I'm going to be successful." | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Down here is the moodiness bits. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
Down here is the horny bits. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
"I feel like getting laid." | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
Down here is the bit that craves. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
"I feel like a line of charlie. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
"I feel like a beer. I feel like a spliff." | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Down here is the memory. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
"I remember last time I had charlie, I felt fantastic. I'll do it again." | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
And that, of course, thinks, "Ah!" sends a signal up to | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
the thinking bit, "Ring the dealer, score." | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Or, alternatively, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
"Last time I exercised to Olympic levels of fitness, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
"I felt fantastic." | 0:25:28 | 0:25:29 | |
That sends a signal, "Do it again. Go to the gym." | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
So, can you see how your mood changes your thinking | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and your thinking changes your mood? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
The chemical side of treating manic depression seems to be | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
about stabilising or preventing major mood swings, or, if you like, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
emotional storms, from welling up from these parts of the brain. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
That emotion you see at the bottom of the brain, pushes ideas | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
out of you when you're manic. It gives you so much energy. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
It's almost as though, when you're high, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
there's a kind of disinhibition of | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
all your raw desires and instincts, you know? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
People don't need to sleep. They've got fantastic energy. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
And that makes them choose to think confident things. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
They're in someone's face, talking really quickly, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
all over the place... Rhymes and puns. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
It's like a piece of happy music that won't stop, for God's sake. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-There's this look when he's manic. It's quite scary. -What is a stare? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
A stare is looking in the eye too much. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Yeah, it's like that. It's like the big eyes. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
It's scary. It's intimidating. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
-Does what I'm saying make sense? -It does, yeah. -OK. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Having a brain means having a mind, means having a personality. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Everything that's happened to your dad has made him uniquely him | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
and, boy, has he lived a life. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
I wonder whether it's obviously retiring, as well, hasn't helped. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
I suppose being so regimented | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
throughout his whole life and his career... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Those experiences of focus, discipline, drive, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
excellence and not to mention all the glory and the worship he got. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
When it falls apart through retina injury and retirement and stuff... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
And then the marriage and everything. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
..everything else that fell apart, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
that is a huge shock for some people. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
And so I can really understand | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
your dad having a really, really hard time. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
Life kicked him in the teeth, literally, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
because everything he knew that meant something to him | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-was kind of taken away from him, in a way. -Yeah. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
It's impossible to say whether celebrity was caused by | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
his mania, or the other way round. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-That the mania was part and parcel of his celebrity. -Yeah. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
What it is fair to say is that, by being a celebrity, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
he was definitely at increased risk. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Rewinding right back to before your dad became unwell, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
-was there moodiness in him then? -Yeah. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
He'd lock himself away in his bedroom. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
When I looked at old videos, he's either really manic, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
like all doing extravagant things really manic, or really down. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
ON FILM: 'Do some of me and Rach. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-'Is it filming at the moment? -It's fresh, yeah! Fresh!' | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
God, when you're finally seeing someone that famous | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
in this sort of context... | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I think that's why I can't watch home videos. I get sad. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-I feel sad now watching it. -I bet you do. You must do. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Because, I suppose, when he lived at home with us, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
he had a bit more stability and normality, I suppose. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
Yes, and you feel like he hasn't got that now. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
The hardest thing, I think, that people find really hard to | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
handle is that, actually, it's not their dad any more. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
It's an illness that's taken over their dad. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Yeah, but that's the sad thing. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
When am I going to get my dad back? That's what... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
..is the journey, I suppose, that we've got to all go on. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-I don't really feel like I've had my dad for a lot of years. -Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Possibly since you were a very little girl. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Maybe you don't know who your dad is yet, that's the thing. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
You haven't met him properly. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
-I know who Frank Bruno is. -So does everyone. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
But it's different for you. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
-Do you think he thinks he's failed you lot? -I think, in a way. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
I think I just try and pretend | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
everything's going to be fine all the time. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
-But I just... -Well, hang on. It might be. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
I'm not saying fine all the time, because your dad's got | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
a really nasty illness, but there's no reason | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
why you can't have good times. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
The very fact your dad is still in touch with you, he's going out... | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
It's good. And letting me do this. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
You say in this business, "Nothing predicts the future like the past." | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
If the person has had illness and come out of it, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
they will come out of it again. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
It might sound silly, but each one of your dad's relapses | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
is a chance to learn how to do it better next time. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
You see, manic depression is not like dementia. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
It's not an irreversible, downward spiralling condition. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Like, you can't hold back the waves, you know? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Manic depression, you can bounce back. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
You've got to hold onto that. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
-See what I'm saying? -Yeah. I do. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
'I'm determined to build bridges between me and my dad. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
'I've decided to run the London Marathon for him | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
'and raise awareness about bipolar. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
'I've always loved running, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
'but 26.2 miles pushes your body to a different level' | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
and my dad's done, I think, four or five marathons before, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
'so he knows how hard I've been training | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
'and the bottles of wine I've sacrificed.' | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
FRANK: Go on, Rach! | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Go on, Rachel! Come on! | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
Go on, Rach! Wicked! | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
'I remember my sports days when I was younger, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
'he was there cheering me on. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
'I saw him and I just sprinted, I was gone.' | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Very good. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
Well done, Rach. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
'He is an athlete and you do want to impress him. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
'I want to make him proud. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
'I think, if he's there, I probably would run faster.' | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
-Well done, Rach. -I knew you'd come first. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
FRANK LAUGHS | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
It will upset me a lot if he doesn't come. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
I haven't told him that, but, to be honest, he should know that. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
'When my dad was recovering after being sectioned the first time, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
'we'd sometimes go to the spa to spend time together.' | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
-You all right? -You all right? -Looking well. -Yeah. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
'I've asked Dad if he'd like to do this again. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
'I'm hoping it will make us both more relaxed | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
'and Dad might be able to open up to me.' | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
It's so nice to eat healthy. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Mm. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
You sure you're all right? | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
I'm going to keep asking you this, cos I'm just... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
But you're fine with me filming today? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
Rach, if I weren't fine, I would tell you. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
I swear to God, I would tell you. You know what I mean? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
I'm not short in coming forward. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Ask whatever you want to ask me. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Just want to know what it feels like to be... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
What goes on when you're manic and stuff? | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
I don't know what goes on when you're manic, you know what I mean? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
The chemicals in your body make you react differently. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
Do you know that? Do you sleep? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Sometimes I don't sleep. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
How do you control that? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
How do you... Can you bring yourself down? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
Can you bring yourself down? Sleeping? Yeah. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
I haven't been manic for ages, Rach. I don't get high... | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
You must remember, like, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:17 | |
when you have been, what it feels like. Or do you not? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
It's hard to know. To explain it, you know what I mean? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Sometimes when you get high, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
sometimes you're rushing and you... | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
..you start tripping over yourself, you know what I mean? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Your brain, speedy more than you should be speedy. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
But you may lose control. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
OK. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
Your highs, like normal human beings, sometimes you've had a good day | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
and something happens to you, you're high, ain't you? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
I'm hyper, yeah. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Should you be sectioned if you're high? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Obviously, bipolar's a different kind of high. It's over... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Off the Richter scale. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
I can get hyper. But I know, when I get a headache, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
I know when to calm myself down. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
-Do you accept that you're ill now? -Sorry? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Do you accept that you've got bipolar for the rest of your life? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Yeah, I do accept I've got bipolar for the rest of my life, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
but I can't accept that every minute, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
if I do something crazy, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
that someone could send someone around my house to get me sectioned. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I don't accept that at all. I don't accept that one little bit. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
The only thing I am struggling to... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
I don't think doctors and police would put you in hospital | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
if they didn't feel like you needed to be there, would they? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
-Yeah. -Remember in New York, you bought tracksuits. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
-God knows how many tracksuits. -True. -That... -That was manic. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
You can't just buy one. You can't just buy one. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
I think you came home with ten suitcases of them. Ridiculous. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
You gave me a suitcase. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
I then filled that up. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
I don't think it was ten suitcases. It was about four. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
You know the fairy lights you got in your car? Were they on a good day? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-What? -The fairy lights you have in your car. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
-The disco? The Christmas lights? -The disco lights. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
-Was that you? -I got them cos I see someone had them in their car | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
and it was good. Is that a bipolar thing? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
-Is that against the law, to have something like that? -No. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
I'm just asking you... | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
If you've got dice hanging up in your car, what, you got to be | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
sectioned because you've got dice hanging up in your car? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
-I just bought them because it's a nice little thing. -OK. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
'I feel really good, actually. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
'I feel my dad's being really open | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
'and I felt like I didn't have that connection with my dad, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
'because I couldn't even ask him what tablets he's on,' | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
or how he's feeling, because I was scared that he'd just be like, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
"Right, you're disowned. You're not my daughter any more." | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
But now, I've actually got past this hurdle, I'm... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
I think I'm feeling more positive about our relationship now. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
-Are you scared? -Yeah, yeah. Very scared. Very scared. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
-Hit it with a dumping punch. -What's a dumping punch? -Your right hand. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-What, the... -Your right hand. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
Yeah, that's it. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
-You feel the power? -You do, actually. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-That is the money maker, isn't it? -You want a rest? -Yeah. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-You hear from your old boyfriend? -No. Nothing. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
He was a whirlwind and he got my hopes up for no reason. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Even Nicola said, everyone was shocked | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
when he just turned round out of nowhere and said, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
-"Oh, I don't really think I'm in love with you." That's random. -Yeah. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
-Relationships, Rach. -I know. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-I just think, "What?" I'm not cut out for them any more. -Yeah? | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
-I don't think I'm cut out for them any more. -What, relationships? -Yeah. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
'I think they've lowered the dosage of his medication. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
'He seems more aware of what's going on. He's not so tired and drowsy.' | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
Take it easy. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
'I think this is good.' | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
This is good Dad | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
right now. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
'Dad seems to be getting on top of his illness, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
'but I know it's staying on top that's the hard bit. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
'I want to meet someone who's learned to really manage | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
'their bipolar and live a relatively normal life.' | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
-Hello! -Hello, my love! How are you? -Good, thank you. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Come on through. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
-Welcome to the place where dreams become reality. -Oh! | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
'Paul Scates has the same severe bipolar as my dad and yet is | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
'able to run his own business planning parties and weddings.' | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
I go above and beyond my call of duty. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
I have been known in the past to live with a couple for a week | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
to get to know their personality so that | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
I can then inject that into their wedding. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
'Paul was officially diagnosed three years ago, but he believes | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
'his bipolar was triggered by traumatic events in his teens.' | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
I unfortunately, through a so-called friend of the family, was | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
abused for many years and I believe that's what kicked it off for me. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
-So, it's been quite a journey... -Yeah... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
..but I actually... Although it was horrible at times, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
I wouldn't change it for the world, to a certain degree, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
because it's made me who I am. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
Do you think having bipolar helped you with your career? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
People buy me first and then they buy what I can do afterwards. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
So, I think, because of my natural gregarious nature, which is | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
my personality, but I think maybe the bipolar might assist | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
it along its way, it's helped me no end. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Because people can feel my passion, they can see it. It's a drug. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
It's a natural drug, admittedly. But you want to keep going. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
You want to get higher. You want to be even more excitable. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
And then you look around and you think, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
"Oh, God. They're boring." You know? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Cos you're just so passionate and you've got so much energy | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
and everything is achievable. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
I mean, I think it's absolutely paramount, like you are with | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
your father and stuff, to have support networks around you. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
I think, without my family and friends, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
I don't know where I would have ended up. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
'Paul has invited me for lunch so I can meet his family | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
'and his boyfriend Rob.' | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
When did you first tell him that you were bipolar? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I'll let Rob explain. It was by default. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
He didn't, because we'd actually come back from a weekend away | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
and I was unpacking our weekend bag and I found some tablets. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
And, obviously, you know, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
pill sleeves make that distinctive rattling sound, that crinkling sound. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
And he was only in the bathroom. So he heard. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
-I was like, "Why did I let him go in the bag?" -Oh! | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
"I could have unpacked myself." | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
-Because we'd only been together, what? -A month. -A month. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
When you found out Paul had bipolar, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
did you have any doubts when you found out? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I did. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
There was a time when we first got together that | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
I did consider getting out of the relationship, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
cos I thought, "I understand the condition. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
"Am I strong enough to cope with it?" | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
In our formative stages of our relationship, Paul did | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
have a couple of highs, and when you try and bring someone down, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
when you try and force someone down from a high, it's... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
it's very difficult. It is very difficult. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
And he has, in the past, said some pretty hurtful, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
quite damning things to me, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
but I know that's not him saying it. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
I know. My dad's done it a lot of times. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I take it personally. You have to remember it's not them. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
I did to begin with. That's one reason why I considered getting out, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
cos I thought, "My God, this person's horrible." | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
The way he described it to me was like realising you've got | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
a winning lottery ticket and someone taking it off of you. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
-You will do anything to keep hold of that winning sensation. -Yeah. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
In actual fact, if Paul didn't have bipolar, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
I think he'd be pretty dull. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
Are you done yet or not? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
He doesn't want to be left out of it, does he? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
-It's all about me, me, me! -It is! | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Paul and Rob have moved in with Paul's mum and dad. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
It's an arrangement that works for all of them. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Well, not only is Paul bipolar, my husband is bipolar. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
Their illness affects them both. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
How do you find living with a son and husband having bipolar? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
If I'm honest, really hard. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
I cope better, actually - and I know it sounds awful - with the lows. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
-I know my dad's safe when he's low. -Yeah. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
In a way, cos he'll be at home. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
Doesn't move out of the chair, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
I have to tell him to drink, eat, sleep. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
The only downside for the lows is if they're suicidal. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Cos then you feel that you can't leave them. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
The highs, you're just not aware, half the time, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
till the police turn up at your door or, you know... | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
So actually, you've had that, the police? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Norman's gone off and disappeared and we've not known where he is. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
And he hadn't known where he is. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
What his name was, or anything. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
I get really angry sometimes with Norman. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:49 | |
He looks like my husband, he sounds like it, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
but I've got an alien stood there and I can't... | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
I don't know if you get it with your dad, but I can't reach him. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
We all need the clinical side of things, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
but, actually, it's your family and friends, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
if you're fortunate enough to have them, that are the make or break. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
They don't have an ulterior motive. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
All they care about is my wellness. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
The key thing that I think that's helped is belonging to | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
a support group, to talk to other people | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
who are living the experience. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
We've all gone to the groups together. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:22 | |
It's amazing just how open some people can be. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
The more you know, the more you can deal with it. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
'What Paul Scates and his family said makes sense. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
'It's got me thinking about my sister Nicola.' | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
Hello, Daddy. Good luck for the fight | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
and I love you and I hope to see you soon. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
'Of all us kids, Nicola has borne the brunt of Dad's illness. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
'Since the age of 12, she's tried to hold the family together. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
'First through my parents' divorce, then as my dad's next of kin. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
'She was the one who signed the papers to have him sectioned. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
'I found a local self-help group for bipolar sufferers | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
'and their families, and I've decided to take my sister along.' | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Hello. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
-I'm Rachel. -Hi, Rachel. -Hello. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
So, does anyone want to start at all? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
I do feel like I don't have as much of a social life as I should | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
at my age because I feel like I... | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
It's my responsibility to be there looking after Mum. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
I feel like I am not being a teenager. I feel like I'm a parent. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Can I broach the subject of being sectioned? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Losing my mum was the worst. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
It took me so long to build back that relationship with her | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
and I did feel blamed. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
My mum would turn round and say, "Oh, look what you've done to me." | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
And I hadn't done anything. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
All I tried to do was help but... | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
I think that you are a fantastic daughter. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Absolute fantastic daughter. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
I just think what you said is really nice to hear, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
because I am sure everyone here can relate, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
but when someone turns around and says that to you after | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
everything you've done, it makes a difference because, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
I'm sure you two can relate, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
you don't feel like you're ever doing enough. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
-NICOLA: -No, you never feel you do enough to help. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
You won't ever get, "I'm proud," or, "Thank you very much." | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
I have never had a thank you. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:39 | |
I had two breakdowns last year and it does still affect me | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
to this day every so often | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
but this time I've now had to just block it out. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
I said from last year that she now has to look after herself | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
because I don't want to lose my sister, like I did last year, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
and that is what makes the anger come out of me because she just... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
Like, you could have potentially lost your new relationship and | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
that's because of the stress of my dad and his illness has put on her. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
I said, "You have got to get to a point, you are 30 years old now. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
"You are to be having kids yourself soon | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
"and you can't go through this again." | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
How does a person with bipolar want to be treated? | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
I think I want to be treated as poor with bipolar, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:24 | |
rather than suffering from a disease. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
I don't want to let my disease take over my life. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
I felt, initially, I was living in a goldfish bowl under observation. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
If Dad tells a joke and he is laughing too much, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
that maybe he is going high. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
If someone asks you a question, what would be the one thing | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
-that you don't want them to ask you about your bipolar? -Ask me? -Yeah. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
-I don't have any restrictions. -Right. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
For instance, my one would be, "Are you still taking your medication?" | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
I don't like that at all. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
For me, it's a kind of trust thing, so they don't trust me. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
We'll end it there. I just want to thank you all for coming. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
Brilliant discussion. And a safe journey home. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
ALL: Thank you very much. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
-INTERVIEWER: It's a big step tonight? -I feel like it is. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
I feel like I got a new Thursday night plan in my diary. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
I'd like to come back. I thought it'd be everybody saying, | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
"Yeah, my family member's got bipolar and we have | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
"the greatest relationship. We get on great," | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
but it's nice to know that everybody hasn't got that fairy-tale ending. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
-They've got exactly the same unbalanced... -Unstable. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
..reality as what we've got. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
-See you later, girls. -See you soon. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
'It seems like, for the first time in years, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
'we are taking a step forward.' | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
-ANNOUNCER: -OK, ladies and gentlemen, now for your very special guest, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
a young man who is known as | 0:45:55 | 0:45:56 | |
Britain's best loved sportsman ever - Mr Frank Bruno. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
'And Dad is making progress too. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
'He is well enough to get back to work making public appearances.' | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
There is a stigma with a breakdown and a mental illness, Frank, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
and you suffered that, especially in your early days. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Yeah, I've got bi-polo, you know what I mean? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
I don't know what it is but it's a very, very... | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
Excuse me. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
That one touched you, yeah? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
I think there is a lady in the room today what's got bi-polo. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
I ain't going to mention no names to embarrass her or whatever. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
Years ago, people used to look at mental health and whatever | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
and cross the road and, "Look at that nutter," | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
but people are tending to ease off a little bit | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
because it could be their mother, their sister, their brother. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
It could happen to a teacher, it could happen to a nurse, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
it could happen to anybody. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Hi, Dad. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
That's all right, I'm not rushing you, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
I'm just ringing to see where you are. Just to check. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
'I'm beginning to realise it's important | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
'to just spend time with Dad. No more questions about bipolar. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
'So I have arranged to meet him to do some shopping | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
'and help him out with a few things.' | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
-I was getting passport... -Rach? -Yeah? -Press... | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
-Look... You have got to look there then, yeah? -All right. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
He is getting a new photo for his driving licence. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
He's got to sort his driving licence out. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
-Rach? -Yeah? -What have you got to do now? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
"Your photo may not..." Oh, that's why. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
You're not allowed to smile. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
-Not allowed to smile? -No, not for a passport. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
-No? -No. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
-You'll definitely feel the spring when you step. -Oh, will, I? | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
'I'm hoping Dad will help me choose some trainers for the marathon.' | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
Do you reckon they're a bit...? | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
-Really bright, aren't they? -Rachel, it's comfort. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
You've got to go for comfort rather than what colour they are. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
'When my dad is manic, he can't stop shopping. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
'But today, like most dads, he's bored.' | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
Do you reckon you'll come and watch me do the marathon? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
-I'm not too sure, you know? -Why? -I'm not too sure. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
-I might do if I'm not busy. -I am running it for you, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
so you better freaking make yourself free, you know? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Why are you not coming to the marathon, Dad? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
-Why might not you come? -I didn't say... | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
I'm not too sure, Rachel. I might be busy. I'm not too sure. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
Dad was a bit quiet, I think. Quieter than usual today. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
I think he wanted to get away quick. But I'm used to that. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
He is always kind of like that. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
Which is a bit of a shame so I didn't want to press too much. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
It was nice of him to come and get them trainers with me, really. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
I just hope he comes and watches the marathon now cos | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
he still seems a bit unsure about that. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
When you get older, you will be watching this | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
and what will you be thinking when you get old? | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Will you be saying, "Oh, my God?" | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
Oh, that's me when I was younger! | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
'Making this film is raking up a lot of emotions for me. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
'And it is forcing me to think about my own life. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
'If I'm honest, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
'one of my deepest fears is that I'm going to get bipolar too.' | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
Some days I do get really low and I'm like, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
"I can't be bothered to get out of bed or go to the gym." | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
Even from recently looking at old family videos, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
I've always been this hyperactive, in-your-face kind of person. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
If I'm quite stressed or I've got a lot of things going on at one time, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
I do wake up in the night. I even ran into my bedroom door. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
My mum heard the bang. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
Then I went into my sister's room and I could not slow my heart down. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
I couldn't get it under control. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
'I know there are stats that say you are 10 times more likely to | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
'get bipolar if you have got a parent who has got it | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
'and that really preys on my mind.' | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
I think there was someone in Dominica, on his dad's side, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
who had a history of mental illness. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
Some people in his family, I think, have got something. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
I don't know what form of bipolar or what they've got. I don't know. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
I know now, from speaking to people | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
and obviously doing this documentary, that it can be | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
triggered by something so that is quite worrying. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
In the future I don't want to have to go through something | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
really hard in life and then suddenly I've got bipolar. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
'I'm on my way back to visit psychiatrist Mark Salter. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
'I need him to be completely straight with me about the risks.' | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
-Good to see you. -Good to see you too. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
Your risk of being vulnerable to bipolar disorder is significantly up. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
-There's no doubt about that. -Oh, really? -Yeah. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
That is to say that, you know, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:53 | |
you have inherited a genetic vulnerability to it. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
But remember, genetics is not the same as destiny. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
Just cos you've got the gene doesn't mean to say you've got the condition. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
You'll hear an awful lot of things talked, especially on the internet | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
where you get some quite sensationalist things - | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
people that say it is ten times greater risk. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
That's not a ten times greater chance of getting the illness | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
because, remember, genetics is only one small part of the story. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
It's the life you live, it's the things you do, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
it's kind of the, if you like, stuff that happens to you. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
Rachel, have you had repeated blows to the head since the age of 15, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
-day in, day out? -No, I haven't. -No. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
Have you found yourself catapulted into fame, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
or having a cocaine dealer | 0:51:31 | 0:51:32 | |
just a phone call away any time you wanted it? | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
You've probably had more love in your life | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
-and stability in your life than your dad did. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Obviously his dad died when he was young, he went to boarding school. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
I have definitely been around a more loving family, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
-my family, growing up. -Now, those things are protective. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
So much of what we have been talking about is about not, you know, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
being this fragile person who could crack at any moment | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
but by making, doing and living a life that makes you strong. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
It's not like you have got "high risk" tattooed | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
across your forehead because of what's in your DNA. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
And there is nothing wrong with having intense moods. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
Yeah, it's normal. It's... | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
You're young, clever, beautiful, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:12 | |
you've got the whole world ahead of you and you are, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
because of those things, going to have a bit of a roller coaster. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
-Yeah, up and down. Yeah. -You know, let's face it, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
-anyone whose life isn't a bit of a roller coaster isn't living. -Yeah. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
-That's the way I see it. -A bit boring, really. -Absolutely. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
-Good luck to you. -See you later. Thank you very much. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
-Take care, Rachel. -Thank you. -Have fun. -Yes, I will. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
'I've learned a lot about bipolar these last few months | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
'and I feel it is time to share some of my experiences with Dad.' | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
I didn't realise how important it was for me to do this because | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
when I first started it, I felt really angry but I didn't know why. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
-Angry? -Just cos you were ill and I couldn't help you | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
and you'd just come out of hospital. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
I thought, "I've lost my dad again. Is he going to come back around?" | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
And I kept saying, "I want an apology. I want a sorry," | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
cos sometimes some of the stuff you could say when you've been | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
manic but you can't remember it can be quite hurtful. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
-Yeah. -But I feel, like, stupid to focus on that apology and get | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
-so upset about it. -What, an apology from me? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
No, yeah, cos sometimes you can be a bit aggressive or just shout | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
-but it wasn't you. -Hmm. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:22 | |
I find it easier to deal with the fact that you've got this for | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
the rest of your life and I'm always going to be here to support you | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
and I have just got to trust you and I didn't realise... | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
One guy said he hates his kids asking him, "How are you feeling? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
"Have you taken your medication today?" | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
-Yeah. -I shouldn't have to ask you that, should I, really? It's not... | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
What's wrong with asking me that? | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
-I just think I should trust you and just be like, "Well, OK." -Yeah. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
-It's something you've got to do, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
At the end of the day, the law states I've got to take the medication. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
It's me taking the medication for my own good, you know what I mean? | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
That's... That is... | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
I actually didn't think I'd ever hear you probably say that. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
-What's that? -You've got to take the medication for your own good. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
-Yeah, I've got to take it for my own good, know what I mean? -That's good. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
I've just got to get on with life, you know? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
There is much more worser things people's got than bi-polo. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
I know. I love the way you call it bi-polo as well. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:54:14 | 0:54:15 | |
Would there be anything you'd want us kids to do differently? | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
No, not really. At all. You know what I mean? | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
I wish you could ring a little bit more but you've got your lives | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
and whatever that it's no biggie. Biggie Small. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
-I'd try and ring but I'm not really a ringer, really. -No. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
No, I should have rang you | 0:54:36 | 0:54:37 | |
more last year but I never could cope with you being ill. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
When I see you like that, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
it makes me back off cos I'm like, "I'm scared." | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
-And now, it's like it's not so scary cos I know about it. -Yeah. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
I know what you're going... | 0:54:48 | 0:54:49 | |
Well, I don't know physically what you're going through, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
-I just know what you need. Just got to be there. -Yeah. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
I'd love for you to end up with a lady here, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
-move in, someone to take care of you. -Say it again. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
I'd love for you to have a woman. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
I don't think I could move in with a lady, to be quite honest. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:55:04 | 0:55:05 | |
Imagine being an old man, like, when you're getting older, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
you need to have some company. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
-She'll bake you cakes in the kitchen. -Cakes? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
-HE LAUGHS -She can make you Sunday roasts. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
I can look after myself, you know what I mean? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
I don't want to be a burden. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
You're not a burden at all. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
-See you later. -Take it easy. -I'll text you when I get home safe. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
All right. Look after yourself. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
See you later. Take it easy. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
It says, "26.2 is your bitch. Go, Raci B!" | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
-How are you feeling, Mum? Are you nervous? -I am, yes. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
-Rather you than me. -Really? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
I've been training for this for ages now so I just want to get there | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
and hopefully make everyone proud and finish it. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Is your dad definitely coming? | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
Yeah, he's going to be at the finish line. He just rang me | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
and wished me luck, so he'll be there. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
So it's good to have everyone here that loves me. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
-Good luck. -Group hug. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
You'll be amazing. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
CHEERING | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
Well done. Well done. Well done. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
Hello there. Well done, man. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:30 | |
Well done. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Barefoot? No, you're joking! I can smell the cheese! | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
My daughter's running the race for Mind | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
-so I'm just coming to support as her dad. -Fantastic. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
-Do you know how she's getting on today? -I'm not too sure. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
Any time now, she'll be coming in. She's done very well, you know? | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
I'm very proud of her. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
Are you all right? Wicked. Well done. Hello, Rach. You all right? | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
-Oh, my God. -Was it hard? -Yeah. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
-Are you all right? What's the matter? -It's really hard. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
You're right, it's the hardest thing ever. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
-Thanks for coming, Dad. -Yeah, no problem. No problem, man. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
No problem, no problem, no problem at all, darling. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
MUSIC: "Nightdrive With You" by Anoraak | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
# You beat my heart You blow my eyes | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
# I guess it's love what I'm feeling | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
# You beat my heart You blow my eyes | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
# I guess it's love what I'm feeling | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
# You beat my heart You blow my eyes | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
# I guess it's love what I'm feeling Feeling | 0:57:35 | 0:57:40 | |
# Feeling, feeling, feeling... # | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
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