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Arin Andrews and Katie Hill are one of America's most famous teen couples. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Millions follow their romance online | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
because their love story is one in a million. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
She is the perfect woman for me. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
Arin and Katie are the first openly transgender teen couple in America. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:19 | |
# Imagine all the girls Ah-ah-ah, ah, ah-ah-ah-ah | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
# And the boys... # | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
Once a girl named Emerald, Arin is now a 16-year-old boy. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Luke became Katie, now an 18-year-old woman. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
It's become so normal for me to be a woman. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
You know, to be a normal woman, in everyday life. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
I've always loved women and liked women, even as a female, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
because I've always deep down known that I was a straight male. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Arin and Katie's online video blogs | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
are inspiring other young transgender people | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
to talk openly about love. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
Claire is searching for Mr Right. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
I would just like someone to spend time with, and to cuddle, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
and just do little things, like... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
the little things mean the most to me. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Devon is the new kid in town and he wants a girlfriend. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
It's a little bit difficult in the dating scene | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
because I don't really know anybody and nobody really knows me. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
Arin and Katie, Claire, Devon are part of a new generation | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
telling the world what it's like to be... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
It's not easy dating when you're transgender. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
It's so embarrassing to admit, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
but I do, I get stood up all the time and it's so annoying! | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
You're changing completely. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
My sex drive has gone up a lot. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Like, a lot. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Sharing these experiences online helps others to understand. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
And giving them hope that they're not alone. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
I have met a lot of douchebags and jerks, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
and I would really, really want to meet a gentleman. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Arin Andrews and Katie Hill | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
are pioneers in the transgender blogosphere, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
first appearing online as a couple in 2012. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
They met at a transgender support group in Oklahoma. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
I went up to her, kind of with my iPhone, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
I was like, "Hey, can I have your number?" kind of thing | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
and she was like, "Yeah, sure, I'll give you my number" | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
and I was like, "Oh, I bet she doesn't really...you know, like me." | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
But she did like him and their unique love soon blossomed. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
We were watching, just, TV, and we were laying down | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and I was pretty much like this to him, cuddled close, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
and finally, for the first time ever, he put his arm around me. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I said, "This is nonsense, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
"I'm going to do it if he's not going to do it." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
-And so... -Aw, man. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
..I had to go in for the first kiss. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
I was sitting here, like, thinking, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
"I'm kissing the most beautiful girl in the world... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
"The most amazing woman I know." | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Over the years, Arin and Katie's posts online | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
have had a major impact on the lives of other young trans adults, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
who felt isolated, confused, and had nowhere to turn. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
There was kind of a moment of like... | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
"OK, this is what I am." | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Cos, like, when I found other trans people... | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
..and, like, when they would tell their stories and how they felt, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
I was like, "Oh, my gosh, this is what I am." | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Claire is 20 now. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Just nine months ago, she came out online as transgender. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
I have finally made the decision to fully transition. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
When I look back at old pictures and videos, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
it's like looking at a completely different person. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Not even physical-wise, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
I feel like my inside changed too, like, the way I felt about things. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
Yeah, I was very depressed back then. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Just a lot of things I was unhappy with. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Social media not only gave Claire an outlet for her depression, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
it helped her find friends who supported her. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
I've had a lot of issues with dating and with men. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
I personally want to date a straight man, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
I don't want a man who wants me for the person that I was, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
I want a man who wants me for the woman that I am. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
My friend Oliviah, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
she taught me a lot, actually, about, like, things I needed to do. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-I had to, like, basically make you into, like, a new person! -BOTH LAUGH | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-It's been about a year now. That's crazy. -I know... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
One of the first lessons Oliviah taught Claire | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
was one of the most important - how to disguise that telltale bulge. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
I mean, basically, you just... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
..pull everything back! | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
You tuck some of that... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
Yeah, I mean, your testicle... Male testicles have a, um, socket. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
You put them back in there and you pull everything, like, way back | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
and then it's flat! | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
And then, you put underwear on. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
And, yeah, you just put on a pair of tight underwear. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-Yeah... -Yeah. All right. You ready? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-Yeah, I'm ready. -D'you wanna go? OK. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
The girls head into town, ready for a big night out. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
# This is the part when I break free | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
# Cos I can't resist it no more-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh... # | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
And Claire's hoping to rev up her love life. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Yeah, we're going to, like... go out, enjoy ourselves, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
dance with some guys, get you a guy... | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
it's going to be awesome. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
They meet up with another trans friend, Zoey, and hit a local club. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
# You were better... # | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Plenty of men on the dance floor, will the girls get lucky? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
# I was under your spell | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
# Like a deadly | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
# Fever, yeah, babe | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
# On the highway to hell, yeah... # | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
They came, they saw... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
but they left by themselves. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
That was so fun. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Many trans women run into a common problem with men. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
I feel, like, guys just tend to sexualise us. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
They don't see, like, what we have to offer past the bedroom. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
You know, if we weren't transgender, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
we would get those second and third dates no...no problem. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
I have been with a few guys, like, physically, and... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:15 | |
I feel like once... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:16 | |
..they got down there, I kind of just shut off. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
I've been sexual with my boyfriend, obviously, but... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
he's fine with it and he's accepted it. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Um, he's completely straight and everything like that, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
but he's accepted it, and he's like me, he wants to please people, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
so it doesn't bother him. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
Gotcha. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
Most guys I've met, I meet them one time, literally. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
And then, after that, nothing. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
There's someone out there for you, like, it's going to happen. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
I've never had, like, an actual relationship and it's... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
kind of odd to me, like, how? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Like, I don't know why, like, what is the issue? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
Is it me? | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
Claire has just joined the conversation online. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Others began posting videos when they were younger. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Hi, my name is Brittney and I am 16 years old, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
and I'm transgender. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Arin's posts date back to before his relationship with Katie, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
from the very beginning of his transgender journey. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
This is the beginning, this is the very start of my transition. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
As you can see, I finally got my hair cut. Yes! | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Haircuts are good. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
From 14 and up, Arin told his story on social media. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
I have changed as a person emotionally, physically, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
spiritually, everything. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
Everything about me has changed and I love it. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
And his vlogs had a major impact on teens coming out as trans, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
including Devon. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Now 18, Devon followed Arin's lead by sharing his own transition. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
I was so goofy back then, though. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
So goofy, my voice is so high-pitched and I... | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
I remember, like, | 0:07:58 | 0:07:59 | |
talking about silly things. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
Um, so I'm using this site, it's called Laura's Playground. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I saw my best friend's underwear today. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Yep, pretty sexy. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I'm a man! Like, physically, no. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
But look at this, what d'you see? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
MAN. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
I'm more man than Justin Bieber. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
But growing up trans is not just frustrating, it can be painful too. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
And in high school, Devon became a target. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I was shoved into lockers, shoved into walls | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and this kid came up to me and he was really upset, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and put me in a chokehold and he said he was going to... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
He said, "I'm going to fucking kill you, faggot." | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Um, and that was kind of the turning point in my life | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
and in my mom's life. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
A turning point that changed Devon and his mum's life forever | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
and forced them to move away from their old home in Iowa. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
I love photos, but it just... It's so emotional. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-Yeah. -You know. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Yeah, I feel you. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
Here's aged three. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
That's when... when everything changed. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
I mean, I just cut your hair off, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
you wouldn't let me do anything with it, so I'm like, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
"OK, we'll just cut it off, then we don't have to fight about it." | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-Hm. -This was really tough for me, right here. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
When you hit, like, 12 and 13 | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
and that's when it got really bad for me, I fought it. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
I didn't want you to... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
You know, your life to be any harder than it had to be. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
I remember the endless conversations of you saying, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
"Devon you have to start wearing girl clothes | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
"and then you can be such a beautiful girl." | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
-Mm-hm. -And I remember forcing myself to say, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
"Yeah, you're right, I could be." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-I didn't understand what was going on with you. -Mm. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
-Sometimes I thought you were just being obstinate. -Mm-hm. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
People are looking at you and then they're asking me questions, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
I mean, right in your face - "Is that a boy or a girl?" - | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
it's like... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
You just... I just sometimes wanted it just to be easier. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
But don't you think that's kind of how I feel? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Don't you think I feel like, "God, couldn't this just be easier?" | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
I love you, baby. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
'I don't think at all' | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
that being transgender is a choice cos thinking on it, why would you... | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Why would somebody want this kind of life? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Why would somebody want to, um, put themselves through all this pain? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
Devon's hoping that a change of scenery | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
will help kick-start his social life and find him a girlfriend. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
Moving to a whole entire new state and not really knowing anybody, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
that's kind of scary... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Trying to find a new group of friends where you... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
you know, feel like home when you hang out with them. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
He's hooking up with some skater buddies | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
who already know that he's trans. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
So what's it like moving here from Iowa? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Do you like it better or...? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
I don't know, it's beautiful here. There's, like, a lot of trees. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-In Iowa, all we have is, like, cornfields and stuff! -LAUGHTER | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
How d'you like the chick scene around here compared to Iowa? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
They're pretty hot, you know. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
You've talked about your ex-girlfriend a couple of times, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
but you never go into too much detail on it. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Um, there's this girl named Rebecca... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
She kind of dropped the "I'm in love with you" card. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-Ooh! -I kind of handled it wrong. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Cos I just, like, kind of stopped talking to her for a little bit. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-Been there. -Yeah. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
Leaving Iowa, I did leave a big broken heart | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
with this girl named Rebecca, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
but I felt really overwhelmed and I wasn't ready for what was there. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
So, are you looking for a girl around here, or, like, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
anything serious like that? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
I think what I'm looking for is | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
somebody who's fun and exciting, who can, like, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
be as energetic as I can, you know? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Someone to go out and do things with? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
-Yeah, exactly. To chill, you know? -Yeah. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
As Devon is the new kid in town, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
his buddies have invited a couple of girls they want him to meet. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Kels! | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
-How are you? -Good, how are you doing? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Hey. -Just skating. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
-Yeah, what are you guys doing here? -Taking a break. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-Have you guys met Devon before? -Aw, no! | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-Hey, I'm Devon. -Hi, Devon. -I'm Syd. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
-I'm Kelsie. -Nice to meet you. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
Nice to meet you too. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-Where are you from? -I'm from Iowa. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
What kind of music are you guys into? | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
Alternative punk, I guess... Uh, a little bit of everything. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
-Like hardcore. -Some hardcore and pop punk music. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
We're both really into, I guess, the local scene. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
I mean, if you're not doing anything on Saturday, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
I mean, there's a really cool show, so, you should stop by. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Yeah, that actually sounds pretty fun, I might do that. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
I think I've definitely got a lot in common with Kelsie, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
I think we kind of connected a little bit | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
and I'd like to see kind of where that goes with her. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
It's the first time Devon has felt a connection | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
since splitting up with his ex. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
But it's too soon for Devon to tell Kelsie | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
that he was once a girl named Addison. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-OLIVIAH: -When you are transgender, you are... | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Young trans Americans are not only sharing posts about their feelings, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
they're also sharing updates | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
about the medical challenges of becoming trans. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
I have testosterone, which makes you go through the roof. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
And the first step to change your gender | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
is to take hormones. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Arin started taking testosterone, or T, when he was 15, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
sharing the momentous occasion on social media. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
And there's my first shot. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
Today is my first day on T. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Um, I feel like a new man. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Basically, I was pretty much born today. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Ouch. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
-This is the part that hurts, yeah. -Does it sting? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
He also shared how T was affecting him, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
updating his vlog to show each change as it happened. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
I've got like... | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
..a moustache, if you can see it. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Here's my arms... They're getting there. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I got a lot of hair right here. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Quite a bit of a happy trail going all the way up. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Sideburns... I don't know if you can see the hair on that. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
My Adam's apple, I don't know if you guys can see it, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
but it's frickin' huge, like... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
T even affects the shape of female genitals. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Downstairs... is, like, two and a half inches. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
And for you trans guys out there that know what that's like, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
it's kind of crazy. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
Nothing looks like normal biological female any more. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
As these changes made Arin more of a man, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
he turned his back on Emerald, the reluctant pageant queen. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
These are all my beauty pageant trophies | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
that I won a long time ago, before I started transitioning. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
That's my past. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
Until aged 12, when he, then still a she, had had enough. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
What male wants to be in beauty pageants? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
I was a guy in a dress. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
So I just wanted to, you know, get rid of them, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
so I just took them out of my room and threw them in here, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
cos they don't mean much to me. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
Just a bunch of crap, basically. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Whilst Arin's mum was supportive, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
she struggled to let go of the daughter she used to have. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
I always get so emotional, I, I... | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
This was the Emerald I knew. I mean, this is what I've always known. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
This was, like, a huge part of her life and... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
all of her...her dance costumes, I've saved them every year. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
I haven't gotten rid of them. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:01 | |
He looked so cute in this one, oh! | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
It's adorable. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
I still want to say "she" because I hang on to that. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
The girl I had. It's kind of like when someone dies... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
you still want to, I guess, honour that. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
I don't know, it's just really hard. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Um, but "she" just sounds better | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
when you're talking about her dance costumes... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
So...sorry! | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Hey, Mom, can you come help me, real quick? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Sure. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
OK. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Devon's mum injects him with T once a week. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Using it means that he will NEVER be able to have children. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I had periods up until I was 16 when I started testosterone. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:41 | |
And it took about... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
..maybe two to three months for them to stop. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
But one side effect took Devon by surprise. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Being on testosterone definitely raises your sex drive. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
'I heard that!' | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
-Yeah, I know! -LAUGHTER | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
-No, Mom, it doesn't make me horny! -'Uh-huh.' | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Whilst Arin and Devon need testosterone injected | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
to maintain their transition, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Claire's body still produces the male hormone naturally. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
I am taking...four pills a day... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
Spironolactone, which is... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Basically, it blocks the testosterone, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
so I won't get any manlier, praise Jesus. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
And then I'm on oestrogens. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
When I first started taking the oestrogen, my... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
and hormones, my emotions were kind of like at a high as a female. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:33 | |
Cos I wanted to cry before, as a guy. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I actually was frustrated that I could never cry. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Before she started taking hormones, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Claire used to be an all-American boy named Dylan, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
growing up in a small town in Virginia. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
My neighbour's probably looking at me, like, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
"When did they get a daughter?" | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Despite Claire's small town upbringing, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
her family have tried their best to support her. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
It's just hard cos everybody has been calling you "Dylan" and "he," | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
like, their whole life and then, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
like, this past year everything's changed, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
so it's kind of different. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
The hardest thing for me is getting used to saying "she". | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Like, when people mess up, like... pronouns and stuff, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
it kind of just, like... really upsets me. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
It kind of, like, wants to make me cry. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Claire's mum has been on her side from the start. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I've-I've seen your tears, I've been there... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
through this whole process. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
I know what you've been going through. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Well, let me ask you this - what kind of guy do you see me with? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
I think you just have to see. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
You just have to... I mean, this is still, you know, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
you're still learning. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
It's just a learning process. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
You're going to make mistakes, you just learn from your mistakes. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
And see what's good for you. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:46 | |
Whitney, what kind of guy should I date? | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
WHITNEY BABBLES, LAUGHTER | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
When I came out as transgender, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
my mom's side of the family accepted it. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Then there was my dad's side that, like, completely didn't accept it. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
They think it's, like, a super-big sin. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
And, like, I'm an abomination. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Like, that's what my dad told me I was. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
He called me once I came out as trans. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Told me that everyone thought I was an abomination. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
It's Saturday night... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
and Devon has been waiting all week | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
to see the girl he met at the skate park, Kelsie. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
-How are you doing? -Good, good. How are you? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Thanks for inviting me to the show. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
-Yeah. -It looks pretty cool. It's outside, that's dope. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
I know, yeah, it's been pretty cool so far. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-Awesome, did I miss much? -Kind of. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
-You ready to watch? -Yes. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
Cool. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
LOUD MUSIC PLAYS Devon wants to wait to tell Kelsie he's trans. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
She seems into him, but he has been rejected in the past. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Recently, this girl and me went on a date and everything was fine. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Um, and then I felt the need to kind of tell her that I was transgender. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
I remember her...her saying, "Nah, dude, I like guys." | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
And I was like..."OK." | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
That kind of hit hard, I was like, "But I am a guy." | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
And she's like, "Yeah, but you're not." | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
ROCK MUSIC PLAYS | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-BAND MEMBER: -'Yeah!' -CHEERING | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
'I love you guys!' | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
The last band actually was really, really good, honestly. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
I definitely could have, like, danced and grooved to them, you know what I'm saying? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Yeah, no, they're really good, I like them. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
Since you kind of showed me, like, what you're into, I write a lot, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
um, so I was wondering if you kind of want to go to this poetry slam with me? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
-Yeah, that'd be super cool. -Cool, awesome. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-That'd be super cool, I've never been to one. -Sweet. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
But telling Kelsie he's trans is not the only thing on Devon's mind. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
His ex-girlfriend, Rebecca, has been in contact | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
to say that she still has feelings for him. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Devon's moved on, though. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
He doesn't want a long-distance relationship | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
and feels he must go back to Iowa to tell her in person. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Rebecca understands, you know, like that I'm here | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
and the distance is hard. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
I definitely think it'd be good to... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
To see her and talk to her | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
and kind of talk in person cos over phone and text message | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
you can't kind of get that reaction | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
of the other person's face instantly, you know? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
After nine months on hormones, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Claire is about to take a major step on her trans journey. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
It's a big day today because it's the first time I... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
..have ever been to the beach as Claire and it's like... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I don't know how to feel about it. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Like, I'm really excited, but at the same time I think... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
not nervous, but I don't know what to expect. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
-Hi! -GIRLS: -Hey! | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
Claire and her friends | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
want to see if they can meet some hot guys at the beach. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I'm excited! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
I mean, there's probably a lot of cute guys out today. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-I feel like just scope out the area. -Yeah, looking is always fun. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
It's the first time Claire has worn a bikini in public. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
# If you gave me a chance I would take it | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
# It's a shot in the dark but I'll make it... # | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
And the guys seem to be paying attention. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
# ..You can't shake me... # | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
Good, how are you? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-Zoey. -Zoey? I'm Casey. -I'm Mike, nice to meet you. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-I'm Claire. -GUYS: -Nice to meet you. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
What kind of guys are you ladies into? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Do you like the blond surfer kind of guy? Skater dude? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
Like, is it personality that gets you or is it like...? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Definitely personality? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Yeah, if a guy is, like, really funny and makes me laugh | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
and I can, like, be comfortable around him, it's a plus. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
So not to be like forward or anything but, like... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
do you think we're cute? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-Most definitely. -Really? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Gorgeous. I think you ladies are gorgeous. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-MIKE: We should hook up sometime, hang out, you know? -Really? -Yeah. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-Heck, yeah. -We'll always be here. -You need to, like, get our numbers. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Sure thing. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
So, do I just put you in here as "Beautiful"? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-Of course, yeah. -OK. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Bye. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
But when the guys found out the girls were trans, things changed. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
That's it, silence. Like nothing from them again. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
In a lot of ways, I don't like telling a guy | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
because once I tell him, it's, like, all respect goes out the window. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
Straight guys just can't get over you having the male parts. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:18 | |
Once I had or get the surgery, I think it will change a lot for me | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
because right now, you know, if I meet a straight guy | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and he doesn't know, like, you know, we can't get physical. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
If I don't tell him, like, and then if he finds out, like... | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Just things get so complicated that you don't even begin to... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:38 | |
I can't even, yeah, begin to explain. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Claire is considering getting surgery | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
so that guys will accept her fully as a woman. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Hi, Claire, how are you? -Hi... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
What I'd like to do is just get a sense of what you feel | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
would be the amount that you would want. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Claire wants three procedures - first, a boob job. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
See now that, that's getting up into a full C cup | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
and I think that might be a little bit more difficult to fit. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
You may not have enough skin to fit an implant that's too large. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
Then she wants her Adam's apple shaved. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
What we would do is basically just shave off a little piece | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
on either side here... | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
But the third surgery is risky and highly invasive | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and the hardest for Claire to decide on. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
We can make, for example, a vagina for you. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Uh, we use the skin from the inside of your thighs... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-Oh. -..and we create, like, a tunnel. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Uh, sometimes we can just use them up in your groin area, here, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
so you don't quite see it all the way down on your, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
-on your thighs area. -Scars? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
Scars are higher up. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-Plus, you'd have to have your penis resected. -Mm. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
And, um, what we try to do sometimes is save some of the... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
the sensation, the nerve sensations. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
-Yeah, yeah... -But, um, you know, again, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
that would never quite be as sensitive as... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-Before. -..before. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-I don't want the feeling to go away... -Yeah, yeah. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
..and never have feeling down there again. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Right. If you ever wanted to have, you know, somebody penetrate... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
-Uh-huh. -..then you would have to have something inside, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
kind of keeping that skin from contracting, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
until it had a chance to fully heal. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
It's a big step, there's no doubt about that. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
-It's a big step. -And I have to be prepared fully for it. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
-Yes, yes. -Mentally and, like, physically. -Absolutely. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
As Claire considers this drastic next step, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
she turns to Arin and Katie's vlogs for help. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Ah! I'm only three days away with the surgery and I'm so excited! | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
This is a big, big, big... big deal! | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
For all of y'all who are transgender or in the community, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
you know that having surgery is a very life-changing event. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
Three years ago, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
Arin and Katie shared the mental and physical highs and lows | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
of their own surgical transition, with millions online. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Katie was the first to have surgery. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
I'm on my way to the waiting room to get my surgery. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
It's in two hours and 14 minutes and counting. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
I'm sitting here kind of... a little worried | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
because the surgery's about four hours long... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Katie's bottom surgery | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
meant that her penis was fashioned into a vagina and clitoris | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
and her testicles were cut off. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
It hurts... It hurts so badly and... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
I miss you... | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Despite the immense pain, Katie felt freer. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Inside I'm crying, I'm just so happy. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
SHE SNIFFLES | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
It's very key for your personality. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
You have to, you know, be a strong person | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and if you're not, then you... transitioning is not for you. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
Claire feels stronger knowing that Katie has done | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
what SHE someday hopes to do. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
If Katie Hill can get gender reassignment surgery, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
then so can I and so can you. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
In the vlogosphere, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
Devon still has his ex, Rebecca, on his mind. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
I guess to start out, I had dated this girl, um, for a while, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
but she...really made me kind of comfortable in my own skin | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
cos she really appreciated, like, my body and, like, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
didn't see anything wrong with it, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
which was kind of like a first that I'd ever experienced. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Rebecca's been in contact with Devon to say that she loves him. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
For Devon, the relationship is over, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
so he's driving to his old town in Iowa for a heart-to-heart. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
I think if she asks about Kelsie, I'll... | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
I'll definitely, I won't lie to her or anything. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
But I don't think that's something | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
that I would just choose to talk about | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
because I know that if I did, that would hurt her. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Rebecca is part of a group of close friends Devon left behind in Iowa, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
so visiting gives him the perfect chance to catch up with the gang. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Aah! | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
But he needs to clarify his feelings with Rebecca. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Obviously, I liked you. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Just cos you used to do some things | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
that, like, frickin' movie people do. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
What are these movie things that I did? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Like...on my way back from youth group. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
That was the first time you pulled a move on me. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-LAUGHING: -In the back of my grandma's car! | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
What was the move? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
You leaned in to kiss me, and then we started kissing... | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
One thing led to another... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Kind of explored each other's bodies a bit! | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
It's just...really easy to... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
fall in love with you, so... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
I don't want that, it's not what I want. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
You're a cool person... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
Like, I don't know. I don't like you in that way. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Having this conversation today and it not going as well as planned, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
I think it makes it a little bit clearer that Iowa | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
and Rebecca is in the past | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
and the future in Minnesota holds Kelsie and...seeing where that goes. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
BELL JINGLES | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
After being rejected at the beach, Claire has called in BFF Oliviah | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
to spruce up her online dating profile. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
So, what dating apps are you using? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Well, I've been using OkCupid... | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
What should I say, I'm trans? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Is that something you're comfortable with saying? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
-Yeah. -OK. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
-Transgender... -Just kind of add it in there... | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Do you consider yourself straight or bisexual? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
-I'm straight. -Straight. OK. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
So your self-summary says, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
"If you want to know more about me, message me," really? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
-Well, yeah! -Who are you? Who is Claire? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
Claire is a kind person. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Kind and genuine. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Claire has found an online profile of someone she fancies. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
His name is Jason. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
-Oh, yeah? Is this him? -Yeah. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Ooh! | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
In his profile, Jason has listed he's open to dating anyone, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
no matter what sexuality or gender. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
-He's just, like, perfect. -He's perfect? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
-Yeah. -Well, have you ever, like, tried talking to him? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
Not really. Um, I'm just kind of scared, you know what I mean? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
-Like, of like... -Why are you scared? What pushes you back? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Rejection. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Why don't you message him? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Just say, "I'd like the chance to get to know you," and then just... | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
-Send it. -Send it, yeah. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
-Did it. -All done! Yay! | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Being single and confused about your gender can be traumatic. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
When you're transgender, it is very easy to feel unlovable and like, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:44 | |
you will not be able to find someone who will be accepting of you... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
Before he found love with Katie, Arin's vlogs tell a different story, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
one that was almost too hard to share. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
A year ago, I actually tried to commit suicide. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
You know, you get to that point when you're just like, "I give up". | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
Arin felt so much shame about being trans | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
that he couldn't even show his face whilst sharing his feelings. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
And he's not alone. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
Nearly half of all transgender teens | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
attempt suicide. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
Using his experiences, Arin wanted to share a message of hope. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
You know, it's just like one of those moments in life | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
that is insane and... | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
and then I look back and I'm like, "Well, look at me. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
"I'm on testosterone, my hair is short, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
"I have the most amazing and beautiful girlfriend | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
"that I could ever ask for and my life's just incredible." | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Never give up, guys. I promise you it gets better. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Devon almost ended it all too. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Until he found Arin's YouTube videos. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
When I was younger I saw a few of Arin's videos. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
Watching his videos definitely made me feel like | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
I wasn't all alone, that I wasn't all by myself. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
It was... "This is OK, me being transgender, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
"and there's other folks out there | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
"who feel exactly the same way that I feel." | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
'I'm determined to be, you know, that man I always saw myself as.' | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
Arin's ambition to get surgery inspired Devon in particular. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
'These changes that I've been telling you guys | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
'are one of the most important things and factors | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
'in my life right now, especially my chest...' | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
With his vlog, Arin wanted to inspire and reassure | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
other trans teens going through the same thing. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
I'm super, super excited, you know. Top surgery's tomorrow! | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Like, I thought I'd never be able to say that. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
Next time you see me, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
I will never have these wonderful thingies any more. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
Nope, they're going to be gone. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
Yeah, I'll see you when I'm boobless. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
After Katie's surgery, it's now Arin's turn to go under the knife. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Uh, blade... | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Surgeons performed a double mastectomy | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
to remove his breast tissue. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
He needed time to recover, but as soon as he did, he was back online. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
I'm starting to feel it now. I got my drain tubes and stuff. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
It's pretty much all I can see, but I'm so happy to be flat-chested. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
And he couldn't wait to send a video to Katie too. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Hey, baby. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
I just wanted to send you a video and tell you that I love you. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
I love you. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:15 | |
Back in Oklahoma, Katie was eager to see the new Arin. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
More than anything, I just missed him when he was gone. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
I understand Arin probably better than anybody else. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
I think that bond that we have, it is...it's unbreakable. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
He felt like he was ready, just like how I was ready for my surgery. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
CAR ALARM SETTING BLEEPS | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
-Hey! -Hey, baby! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
-BOTH: -Hey! | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
-How're you feeling? -I'm a little sore, but...it's all good. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
-Oh, wow! -I've still got some scar tissue round my nipple | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
and here, but... it's starting to go away | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
and this side is my better side. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
You look good. He did a really good job. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
It's kind of empowering, you know? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
Seeing him without a shirt on | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
and seeing that he really doesn't have any scars | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
is really cool and kind of gives me hope. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Arin has inspired Devon to take the plunge | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and to book an appointment to talk about surgery. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
I think after having top surgery | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
I'll definitely feel a lot more comfortable around girls | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
and, um, kind of getting into the intimate part of being with girls. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
I've only been comfortable sharing my body completely, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
like, fully naked, with one girl, um, ever before in my life. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Claire's new online profile has got a response. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
She calls up best friend, Oliviah, to dish. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
Hey! | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
'Hey, how's it going?' | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
Good... Oh, my gosh, guess who just messaged me? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
'Who?' | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
Jason. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
'Really?' | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
Well, he said that he wants to go on a date. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
'Good!' | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
Hopefully I get a kiss! | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
-Hi, Claire! -Hi! | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
-You ready for your appointment? -Yes. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
-We'll be with you in a minute. -OK, thank you. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
But before any kissing, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Claire wants to make sure her skin is stubble-free. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Like, less than a year ago, I had a full-on beard. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Like, full-on. Like, thick. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Had to shave, like... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
twice a day. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
I would never wish... | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
for a woman to go through this. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
AIR GUSHES FROM INSTRUMENT, MACHINE BLEEPS | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-How're you doing? -Good, I'm fine. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Great. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:32 | |
Claire undergoes laser treatments, monthly, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
to kill the hair follicles in her face. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
OK, we're going to do a little bit on your upper lip... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
That's, like, the worst. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
-That's the worst part, I know. -Yeah... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
Beautiful. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
All right, Claire... We made it! | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
It's looking great. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
-Good? -Yep, we're good. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
-Hey, Claire, it looks really good. -Thank you. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
I'm so excited... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
I can't believe it's only been less than a year since we started. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
It's very important for my skin to be smooth, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
just cos, like, I'm going on a date and I don't want any stubble! | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
-Abso... -That would be...not good. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
-Yeah. -Just in case, like, he kisses me or something... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
-There's women that would die for your skin, so... -Thank you. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, just keep doing what you're doing. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I think we're well on our way to being done with this part | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
of your journey. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
Hair was just a big thing... Like, I hated it. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
Having to, like, shave! | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Imagine being a woman, growing a beard. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
That's how it felt. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Inspired by Arin, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
Devon follows up with a doctor, who specialises in transgender medicine. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
What's it feel like, I mean... to have the breasts? | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
It'd be lovely to get them off so I can do some stuff, like swimming, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
and hang out with the guys and have no questions asked about it. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
You want to have your plan in place by October to have surgery when? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
-As soon as we can. -OK! -BOTH LAUGH | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
-A soon as the money's there and we have a date, you know? -OK. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Top surgery costs at least £6,000. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
But Devon wants to go one step further than Arin | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
and have bottom surgery, building a penis from a graft of his skin. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
This can cost almost ten times as much. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
So for YOU, what you would want would be a functional penis. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, that you can pee through... | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
-Yeah. -..that would get an erection when you get excited... | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
-Yeah. -..and be able to, uh, perform sexually. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-Yeah. -And that's kind of what you want. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
Cool. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
Until he can have the surgery he wants, Devon has to improvise. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
"Packing" is the transgender term for... | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
you know, I would basically say just putting anything in your pants | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
to kind of give you that shape and that oomph of having a penis. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
DEVON MUTTERS TO HIMSELF | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
It makes me feel more myself, more of what I want in my body. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
If medicine was advanced, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
I would definitely hop on board of the train of getting, um, a penis. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
I don't want to die a female. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
The best advice I could give somebody, um, is that... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
be confident in who you are and if somebody doesn't agree with that... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
..then, you know, you don't deserve that. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Thanks to the internet, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
many in the transgender community have new-found confidence. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
Do you see this shirt? | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
It says, "Transgender Woman". | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
This movement is real, yo... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Arin vlogs about the physical effects of surgery and how he feels. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
These are my nipples, they're, um... | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
I got some scar tissue right here, but it's nothing horribly bad. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
And this is my other nipple. This is my better side. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I mean, I can't even tell you how happy I am with my results | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
and just finally being able to go to the lake now and be shirtless. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
He and Katie were ready to spend their summer at the lake... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
confident that their post-surgery bodies had finally got them | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
to where they'd always wanted to be. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I don't think anyone, unless they know our story, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
actually would come to the conclusion | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-that we're trans-man, trans-woman dating. -Yeah. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
They would just see us as a boy and a girl dating. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
The news media picked up on their story. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
It was a whole new level of exposure. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
-REPORTER: -'Now a month after surgery, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
'Arin is ready to reveal his new manly chest. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
'Off comes his shirt. Katie couldn't be more impressed.' | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Fantastic. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:40 | |
I can stick my chest out | 0:38:42 | 0:38:43 | |
and just be happy with who I am and confident about it. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
I feel amazing. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:47 | |
As their fame grew, so did their following. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
The golden couple were having the time of their lives. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Alone together... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
..with nine million people watching them online. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
For Claire, it's the moment she's been prepping for... | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
a date with her online crush, Jason. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Jason has read Claire's online dating profile | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
and already knows she's transgender. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
I'm feeling really, really excited. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
We've been talking online for a little while and... | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
yeah, like, he just seems like a really, really good guy. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
-Hi! I'm here to meet Jason. -Right! | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Right this way, please. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
-Hi! -Hey, how are you? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Good to see you. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you too. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
You're so handsome. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
-LAUGHING: -Well, thanks, you look very nice yourself. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
D'you find it OK? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:43 | |
It was a little hard to find, to be honest, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
cos it's, like, literally in an alley. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
That's why it's called The Alley Light. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
-JASON LAUGHS -Whatever. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
-Here are your cocktail menus... -Thank you, thank you. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
-I'll be back in just two minutes. -Oh, is this the goat cheese? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
-This is the green beans with the frozen foie gras. -Oh! | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
-Thank you! -You're welcome. -Thank you so much. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
I just really need to know, like... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
What kinda... What type do you like? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
If you look at pictures of the people that I've dated, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
it would be really hard to find, like, a pattern or a type. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
I really like kind eyes and a genuine smile, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
but aside from that, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
I don't look at anything physical when it comes to anybody. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Your type is really just, like, a genuine person? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
Yeah. Like I said, open to anybody. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
Have you ever, and answer this question honestly... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
-Uh-huh. -Have you ever, and would you ever... | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
..be with a trans person? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
No, and sure. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-No, and sure... -Yeah. -..what does that mean? | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
-No - I haven't ever been with a trans person. -Oh, OK. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
I have never been, like, out dating, you know, a trans person. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
And, sure, why not? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
-When it comes to physical contact... -Yep. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
..when do you get intimate and stuff like that, like, how soon? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
Uh, when the time is right. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
I don't think there's a timetable for it, I really don't. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-You don't really rush it? -No, definitely not. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-It's not, like, the first thing on your mind? -No. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Typically, I do hold off for quite a while | 0:41:11 | 0:41:12 | |
before I have any sort of physical contact with somebody. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
-That is, like, baffling to me. -Why is that baffling to you? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
Because there's so many guys that... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
-..that's all that's on their mind. -Mm-hm. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-Like, literally. -Mm-hm. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
Jason has ticked all the boxes. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
But will Claire get the kiss her cheeks are ready for? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
-It's been a nice night. -Well, I'm heading out. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
-I'm an old man, need to go to bed. Mm! -Text me, call me. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-Will see you later, OK? -Bye. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Bye. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
I really, really think Jason is... | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
..boyfriend material? | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
But that's too early to say! | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
But I really, really like him a lot. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Devon is preparing for his date... | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
but Kelsie still doesn't know that he's trans. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
So, tonight, he needs his mum's advice on a poem with a purpose. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
-Kelsie, that cute girl that I saw at the skate park... -Mm-hm. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
I saw her at the show and we kind of made a little connection | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
and I invited her to this poetry slam, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
which is the reason why I'm kind of writing this to... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
kind of tell her that I'm trans. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
-What d'you think about that? -I just don't think this is a good idea. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-It's kind of like dropping a bomb on someone. -Yeah. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
I'm kind of putting myself in her shoes | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
and even if I was very supportive and an ally, I'd be like, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
-"Whoa, dude, did you really?!" -Yeah. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
She could take it wrong and not know what to do, you know? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
She'll, like, bail, or, like, you know, just chill there. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
I mean, she could take it really well. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
I think if at all possible, Devon, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
-if you can have a little time with her before this... -Mm-hm... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
..and just let her know then. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
D'you know what I'm saying? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Yeah, I know what you're saying. I feel you. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
The next day, Devon thinks about WHEN he should tell Kelsie the truth. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
There's a lot of anxiety of telling people that I'm transgender | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
and especially new people, telling them, it's... | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
Cos, I mean, you can have, like, a really nice person | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
who completely loves you for who you are, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
but then they can completely turn their back around you | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
when you bring this up. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Cos it is such a complex thing to think about. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
That evening, Devon has finally made up his mind | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
to tell Kelsie that he's transgender. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
But he's decided to tell her in private. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
The following afternoon, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
Devon waits to see if Kelsie is going to turn up to meet him. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
I'm not too open about, you know, being trans with new faces, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
new people. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:55 | |
A lot of nerves kind of running through my body right now. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
But Kelsie does come and Devon has a chance to talk things through. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
-Hey! -Hey! | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
-How are you? -Good. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
-Could we take a seat and talk for a sec? -Yeah. Of course. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
-Yeah, are you nervous? -Yeah, extremely nervous. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
So, I felt like before anything kind of got a little serious between us | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
that I should tell you that. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-Does that surprise you in any way? -I mean, honestly, yeah. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Like I-I guess I wouldn't have known if you didn't tell me. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
Um... But like I said, like - there's nothing wrong, so I mean... | 0:44:26 | 0:44:32 | |
Yeah, but I... I honestly wouldn't have guessed, but... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
The reason kind of why I told you that | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
and why I'm kind of nervous about this whole thing | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
is cos of the poem... | 0:44:38 | 0:44:39 | |
-The poem that I wrote is trans-related and it kind of... -Oh. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
It ties in with all of that and I just, you know, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
wanted to tell you beforehand, before I, like, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
sideswiped you with a... | 0:44:46 | 0:44:47 | |
-Yeah, yeah, no, that... Thank you for telling me before. -..The poem. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
-You ready to go in? -Yeah, I am. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
Cool. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
-WOMAN: -'Welcome to the ReVerb Open Mic, how's everybody doing tonight?' | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
-ALL: -'Good!' | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
'It's good to see you.' | 0:44:59 | 0:45:00 | |
-Please make some noise for Devon. -AUDIENCE: -Whoo! | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
Hey, guys, my name's Devon. Um, I'm transgender. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
I'm kind of new to Minnesota - | 0:45:11 | 0:45:12 | |
I just moved from Iowa about four months ago. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
This is my first time actually sharing my piece with somebody. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
Oh, man. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
Please don't ask me why I'm way too into girls. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Please don't ask me why I hold back. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
Please don't ask me why I always make my voice deeper | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
when I meet somebody new. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
Please don't ask me why I'm constantly adjusting my clothes. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
But ask me why I wear my heart on my sleeve. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
Please don't ask me | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
why I always have to use the stall in the bathroom. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
Ask me why I'm so accepting. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
Please don't ask me why I have two names. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Ask me why I'm so strong-willed. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
-AUDIENCE MEMBER: -Whoo! | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
I think your... Your piece was so good. I really liked it. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Thank you. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
There's definitely some changes I could definitely do, and also, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
to be honest with you, having you there made me a little bit nervous. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
Why were you nervous cos I was there? | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
Cos I didn't know how you would react to... | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
To, you know, little Dev going up there with a big voice and like, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
you know, uh, being passionate and really loud about things. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
-But also, like, you're cute so... -DEVON LAUGHS | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
You know, that's going to make anybody really nervous, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
having a cute girl out in the crowd. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
Do you think, maybe possibly, we could, like, go on a formal date? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
-Yeah! I would really like that. -Awesome. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
I feel like I could tell Kelsie a little bit sooner | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
than I typically would tell somebody who's... | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
because knowing her only for a short amount of time, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
she's really found interest in me | 0:46:37 | 0:46:38 | |
and a connection has definitely been made. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
But I do feel kind of iffy about... | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
about how she feels and, um, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
I feel like she definitely still has a lot of questions. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
Claire has the first second date of her life. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
But on her way out the door... a top-up. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
It's good to take oestrogen right before a date cos... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
..I think it does give me a confidence boost, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
it makes me feel more feminine. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
It's time for Claire to find out if Jason | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
is truly boyfriend material. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
My mission is to...get Jason. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
That's my mission. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
And she's pulling out all the stops. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
The last date we had, he smelt really good. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
So I wanna, like, outdo him a little bit. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
-How are you? -Good, how are you? | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
-Good to see you. -How are you? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:41 | |
Good! Come on in! | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
-I LOVE to eat. -This is so good! | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
All right, you can pop open the oven | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
cos I'm covered in chicken juice. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
OVEN BLEEPS | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
What about you, do you think people are attracted to? | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
Or what attracts people to you? | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
-There's more to me than just... -Mm-hm. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
..the outward appearance, you know? | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
And I've, like, endured a lot in my life. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
Just, like, figuring out who I am. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
I think if there was one thing | 0:48:09 | 0:48:10 | |
that I would want people to know about me, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
it's...my journey. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Well, for a long time I just... | 0:48:15 | 0:48:16 | |
-..put myself down... -Right. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
..and now I'm accepting myself and who I am | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
and it's OK to be transgender. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Claire takes a moment to powder her nose and settle her nerves. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
One - I don't want to put pressure on anything. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
But two - I do want to see where I kind of stand with this. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
He's a glass of... | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
..a very expensive wine, or whatever you want to call it, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
but I've been drinking... | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
..Dr Pepper. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
-Jason? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
I don't know how to ask you this question! | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
Um, you just ask me right out. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
-How do you feel about me? -How do I feel about you? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
Um, I think that we have learned a lot from each other | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
because I'm still kind of finding myself. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
What are you finding out? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
I find out something new about myself every day! | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
Would you, like, ever consider yourself, like, being with me, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
on an emotional level | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
and, like, romance level? | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
I don't think that the best way for me to support you right now | 0:49:21 | 0:49:26 | |
is as a romantic endeavour, or as a romantic partner, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
I think the best way for me to support you right now is just, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
is simply to support you. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
Um, and I don't know that I feel comfortable | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
adding the aspect of romanticism. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
I was just hoping like it could lead somewhere maybe. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
I do appreciate that you told me in a nice way. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
Not sort of being like, "Well, I don't like you!" | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. Thank you for that. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Have a good night. Do be safe getting home, OK? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
-I'll try. -All right. We'll chat soon. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
-OK, bye. -Bye. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
SHE SNIFFLES | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
Oh, gosh. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:16 | |
I don't know, I don't know what's wrong with me. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
Going to be 21 and haven't even had, like... | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
..a relationship for, like, even a month! | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
I'm just getting to the point where I don't even want to try...any more. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
Even if a guy comes up to me and says, "Oh, I want to be with you," | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
I'm going to be, like, "You're kidding." | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
"Like, this is not going to work out. Cos you're lying." | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
-REPORTER: -'It's the most unusual love story we've ever seen. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
'America's first transgender teen couple | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
'openly dating and madly in love...' | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
One year after talking to the world's press about their surgery, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Arin and Katie are ready to share | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
the next chapter in their relationship. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
They were a transgender couple | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
who knew exactly what the other had gone through, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
but now they've broken up. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
Katie has decided to break up with Arin. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
I just wasn't happy with the relationship and, um, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
I could see it was taking a toll on him, taking a toll on us, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
and our friendships and my grades and his grades, and... | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
I just thought it was best if we split apart. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
I broke his heart, I know, but, um, I did it for...our sake. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
I've never been in a relationship besides her since I've been a man. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
-REPORTER: -'Transgendered or not, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
'Arin was like any teenage boy who got dumped.' | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
I definitely reacted in the "guy way," | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
or, you know, the typical man way. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:52 | |
I was upset and I punched things. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
The community Arin and Katie built online was devastated too. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
And I feel like in our own community, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
we were looking up to Katie and Arin. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
You know, a normal couple | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
who understood what they were going through | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
and who've stayed with each other for so long... | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
And it just sucks that they broke up, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
you know, I'm really sad about it. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
But Claire rallies the troops. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
I think it's very important | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
that we all be here for Katie in her break-up | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
cos I know I would want someone to be there for me. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
Katie felt one aspect in particular was missing from her relationship... | 0:52:24 | 0:52:29 | |
An aspect that was hard to talk about. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
We didn't have an intimate life, really. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
You know, it was just... And that was OK with me. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
We talked about it, you know, we tried stuff. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
But all in all, it wouldn't work out, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
so eventually we were just like, "All right, who cares? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
"That's not important, let's just have a good time, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
"enjoy each other's company." | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
If you're dating me for sex, then I think you're in the wrong place. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
-ARIN LAUGHS -Definitely, you know, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
you better go down the road cos you're not going to find that here. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
I'm mean, that's... It's an important part of a relationship, but it's not all that. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
You know, I... I thought it was kind of funny. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
I was, like, "Oh, great! | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
"As soon as I get a vagina, I get a boyfriend without a penis. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
-"Like, what?" -MIMICS COMIC TONE: -Womp, womp, womp. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
Few people can relate to Arin's situation like Devon. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Following Arin and Katie's ending, and Katie having transitioned fully | 0:53:16 | 0:53:21 | |
and Arin still kind of being held back, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
I think, me being the jealous type that I am, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
it'd be very hard for me to have somebody else | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
who's a lot farther in transitioning than I am. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
Despite the news about Arin and Katie's break up, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
Devon still believes he can find romance. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
I'm kind of like a hopeless romantic. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
I get my hopes up high for a lot of things that I shouldn't, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
and I like to keep them high, kind of hoping, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
always hoping for the best. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:46 | |
He's ready to lay his heart on the line with Kelsie. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
Hello! | 0:53:54 | 0:53:55 | |
-DEVON LAUGHS -Hello! | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
-Those are for you. -Oh, my gosh. Thank you! | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
Yeah! | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
You can pick the spot cos YOU'RE taking ME on the date! | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
I see, we'll just sit on top of the hill. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
So, I was kind of nervous whether or not you would come today. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
Um, because having said that I'm transgender, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
it could change the way you look at me. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
Not at all! Not at all. Nope. I don't know why it would. You know? | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
I mean, I see you as a guy and that's what you are. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
So, Kelsie... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
For some reason... you kind of stopped me in my tracks. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
-(Stop!) -DEVON LAUGHS | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
And I... I definitely think | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
there's more than just like a... like a friend connection. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Where, where kind of... | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
Where kind of would you want this to go? | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
I'm not exactly sure. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
I mean, I'd like to see, like, where it goes. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
-I mean, we just met, kind of thing. -Mm-hm. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:52 | |
I think you're a really interesting person. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
I'd like to get to know you a lot better. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
I think the ultimate goal at the end of my life, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
I would definitely want to find somebody that I'm in love with. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:55:13 | 0:55:14 | |
I think it would be lovely to eventually marry a woman | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
and carry on with our lives as normal people and being in love. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:21 | |
As Devon looks to the future, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
Arin is trying not to dwell on the past. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
The best way to cope, for me, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
is just hanging out with my friends, having a good time, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
working out, you know? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:30 | |
Keeping on the positive side of things. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
He recognises how far he's come. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
It's a very beautiful thing when you can see yourself transform | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
into something that you've always seen yourself in the mirror. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
And despite his heartbreak, he and Katie are still close. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
I feel like we're always just going to be friends | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
and I think we're a lot stronger because of it. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Transitioning with Katie has given me and her a very unique bond. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
Katie is now 21 and Arin 19. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
He's started uni and is determined to move on | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
and live his life to the full. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
Arin and Katie's romance | 0:56:09 | 0:56:10 | |
continues to impact the growing transgender community... | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
..who will always see them as the golden couple. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
It's just, like, what are the odds that two people that are transgender | 0:56:17 | 0:56:22 | |
and struggling with the same things | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
kind of find each other and fall in love? | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
I think it's very... that's reassuring. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
I wish I could, you know, find something like that. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 |