Young, Trans and Looking for Love


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Arin Andrews and Katie Hill are one of America's most famous teen couples.

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Millions follow their romance online

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because their love story is one in a million.

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She is the perfect woman for me.

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Arin and Katie are the first openly transgender teen couple in America.

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# Imagine all the girls Ah-ah-ah, ah, ah-ah-ah-ah

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# And the boys... #

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Once a girl named Emerald, Arin is now a 16-year-old boy.

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Luke became Katie, now an 18-year-old woman.

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It's become so normal for me to be a woman.

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You know, to be a normal woman, in everyday life.

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I've always loved women and liked women, even as a female,

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because I've always deep down known that I was a straight male.

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Arin and Katie's online video blogs

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are inspiring other young transgender people

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to talk openly about love.

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Claire is searching for Mr Right.

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I would just like someone to spend time with, and to cuddle,

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and just do little things, like...

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the little things mean the most to me.

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Devon is the new kid in town and he wants a girlfriend.

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It's a little bit difficult in the dating scene

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because I don't really know anybody and nobody really knows me.

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Arin and Katie, Claire, Devon are part of a new generation

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telling the world what it's like to be...

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It's not easy dating when you're transgender.

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It's so embarrassing to admit,

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but I do, I get stood up all the time and it's so annoying!

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You're changing completely.

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My sex drive has gone up a lot.

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Like, a lot.

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Sharing these experiences online helps others to understand.

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And giving them hope that they're not alone.

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I have met a lot of douchebags and jerks,

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and I would really, really want to meet a gentleman.

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Arin Andrews and Katie Hill

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are pioneers in the transgender blogosphere,

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first appearing online as a couple in 2012.

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They met at a transgender support group in Oklahoma.

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I went up to her, kind of with my iPhone,

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I was like, "Hey, can I have your number?" kind of thing

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and she was like, "Yeah, sure, I'll give you my number"

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and I was like, "Oh, I bet she doesn't really...you know, like me."

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But she did like him and their unique love soon blossomed.

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We were watching, just, TV, and we were laying down

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and I was pretty much like this to him, cuddled close,

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and finally, for the first time ever, he put his arm around me.

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I said, "This is nonsense,

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"I'm going to do it if he's not going to do it."

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-And so...

-Aw, man.

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..I had to go in for the first kiss.

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I was sitting here, like, thinking,

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"I'm kissing the most beautiful girl in the world...

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"The most amazing woman I know."

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Over the years, Arin and Katie's posts online

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have had a major impact on the lives of other young trans adults,

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who felt isolated, confused, and had nowhere to turn.

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There was kind of a moment of like...

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"OK, this is what I am."

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Cos, like, when I found other trans people...

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..and, like, when they would tell their stories and how they felt,

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I was like, "Oh, my gosh, this is what I am."

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Claire is 20 now.

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Just nine months ago, she came out online as transgender.

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I have finally made the decision to fully transition.

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When I look back at old pictures and videos,

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it's like looking at a completely different person.

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Not even physical-wise,

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I feel like my inside changed too, like, the way I felt about things.

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Yeah, I was very depressed back then.

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Just a lot of things I was unhappy with.

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Social media not only gave Claire an outlet for her depression,

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it helped her find friends who supported her.

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I've had a lot of issues with dating and with men.

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I personally want to date a straight man,

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I don't want a man who wants me for the person that I was,

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I want a man who wants me for the woman that I am.

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My friend Oliviah,

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she taught me a lot, actually, about, like, things I needed to do.

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-I had to, like, basically make you into, like, a new person!

-BOTH LAUGH

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-It's been about a year now. That's crazy.

-I know...

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One of the first lessons Oliviah taught Claire

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was one of the most important - how to disguise that telltale bulge.

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I mean, basically, you just...

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..pull everything back!

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You tuck some of that...

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Yeah, I mean, your testicle... Male testicles have a, um, socket.

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You put them back in there and you pull everything, like, way back

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and then it's flat!

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And then, you put underwear on.

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And, yeah, you just put on a pair of tight underwear.

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-Yeah...

-Yeah. All right. You ready?

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-Yeah, I'm ready.

-D'you wanna go? OK.

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The girls head into town, ready for a big night out.

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# This is the part when I break free

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# Cos I can't resist it no more-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh... #

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And Claire's hoping to rev up her love life.

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Yeah, we're going to, like... go out, enjoy ourselves,

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dance with some guys, get you a guy...

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it's going to be awesome.

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They meet up with another trans friend, Zoey, and hit a local club.

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# You were better... #

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Plenty of men on the dance floor, will the girls get lucky?

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# I was under your spell

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# Like a deadly

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# Fever, yeah, babe

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# On the highway to hell, yeah... #

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They came, they saw...

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but they left by themselves.

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That was so fun.

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Many trans women run into a common problem with men.

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I feel, like, guys just tend to sexualise us.

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They don't see, like, what we have to offer past the bedroom.

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You know, if we weren't transgender,

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we would get those second and third dates no...no problem.

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I have been with a few guys, like, physically, and...

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I feel like once...

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..they got down there, I kind of just shut off.

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I've been sexual with my boyfriend, obviously, but...

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he's fine with it and he's accepted it.

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Um, he's completely straight and everything like that,

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but he's accepted it, and he's like me, he wants to please people,

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so it doesn't bother him.

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Gotcha.

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Most guys I've met, I meet them one time, literally.

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And then, after that, nothing.

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There's someone out there for you, like, it's going to happen.

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I've never had, like, an actual relationship and it's...

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kind of odd to me, like, how?

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Like, I don't know why, like, what is the issue?

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Is it me?

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Claire has just joined the conversation online.

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Others began posting videos when they were younger.

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Hi, my name is Brittney and I am 16 years old,

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and I'm transgender.

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Arin's posts date back to before his relationship with Katie,

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from the very beginning of his transgender journey.

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This is the beginning, this is the very start of my transition.

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As you can see, I finally got my hair cut. Yes!

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Haircuts are good.

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From 14 and up, Arin told his story on social media.

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I have changed as a person emotionally, physically,

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spiritually, everything.

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Everything about me has changed and I love it.

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And his vlogs had a major impact on teens coming out as trans,

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including Devon.

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Now 18, Devon followed Arin's lead by sharing his own transition.

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I was so goofy back then, though.

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So goofy, my voice is so high-pitched and I...

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I remember, like,

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talking about silly things.

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Um, so I'm using this site, it's called Laura's Playground.

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I saw my best friend's underwear today.

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Yep, pretty sexy.

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I'm a man! Like, physically, no.

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But look at this, what d'you see?

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MAN.

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I'm more man than Justin Bieber.

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But growing up trans is not just frustrating, it can be painful too.

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And in high school, Devon became a target.

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I was shoved into lockers, shoved into walls

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and this kid came up to me and he was really upset,

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and put me in a chokehold and he said he was going to...

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He said, "I'm going to fucking kill you, faggot."

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Um, and that was kind of the turning point in my life

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and in my mom's life.

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A turning point that changed Devon and his mum's life forever

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and forced them to move away from their old home in Iowa.

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I love photos, but it just... It's so emotional.

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-Yeah.

-You know.

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Yeah, I feel you.

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Here's aged three.

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That's when... when everything changed.

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I mean, I just cut your hair off,

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you wouldn't let me do anything with it, so I'm like,

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"OK, we'll just cut it off, then we don't have to fight about it."

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-Hm.

-This was really tough for me, right here.

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When you hit, like, 12 and 13

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and that's when it got really bad for me, I fought it.

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I didn't want you to...

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You know, your life to be any harder than it had to be.

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I remember the endless conversations of you saying,

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"Devon you have to start wearing girl clothes

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"and then you can be such a beautiful girl."

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-Mm-hm.

-And I remember forcing myself to say,

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"Yeah, you're right, I could be."

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-I didn't understand what was going on with you.

-Mm.

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-Sometimes I thought you were just being obstinate.

-Mm-hm.

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People are looking at you and then they're asking me questions,

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I mean, right in your face - "Is that a boy or a girl?" -

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it's like...

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You just... I just sometimes wanted it just to be easier.

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But don't you think that's kind of how I feel?

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Don't you think I feel like, "God, couldn't this just be easier?"

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I love you, baby.

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'I don't think at all'

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that being transgender is a choice cos thinking on it, why would you...

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Why would somebody want this kind of life?

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Why would somebody want to, um, put themselves through all this pain?

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Devon's hoping that a change of scenery

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will help kick-start his social life and find him a girlfriend.

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Moving to a whole entire new state and not really knowing anybody,

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that's kind of scary...

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Trying to find a new group of friends where you...

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you know, feel like home when you hang out with them.

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He's hooking up with some skater buddies

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who already know that he's trans.

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So what's it like moving here from Iowa?

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Do you like it better or...?

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I don't know, it's beautiful here. There's, like, a lot of trees.

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-In Iowa, all we have is, like, cornfields and stuff!

-LAUGHTER

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How d'you like the chick scene around here compared to Iowa?

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They're pretty hot, you know.

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You've talked about your ex-girlfriend a couple of times,

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but you never go into too much detail on it.

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Um, there's this girl named Rebecca...

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She kind of dropped the "I'm in love with you" card.

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-Ooh!

-I kind of handled it wrong.

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Cos I just, like, kind of stopped talking to her for a little bit.

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-Been there.

-Yeah.

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Leaving Iowa, I did leave a big broken heart

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with this girl named Rebecca,

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but I felt really overwhelmed and I wasn't ready for what was there.

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So, are you looking for a girl around here, or, like,

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anything serious like that?

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I think what I'm looking for is

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somebody who's fun and exciting, who can, like,

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be as energetic as I can, you know?

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Someone to go out and do things with?

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-Yeah, exactly. To chill, you know?

-Yeah.

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As Devon is the new kid in town,

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his buddies have invited a couple of girls they want him to meet.

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Kels!

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-How are you?

-Good, how are you doing?

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-Hey.

-Just skating.

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-Yeah, what are you guys doing here?

-Taking a break.

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-Have you guys met Devon before?

-Aw, no!

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-Hey, I'm Devon.

-Hi, Devon.

-I'm Syd.

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Nice to meet you.

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-I'm Kelsie.

-Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you too.

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-Where are you from?

-I'm from Iowa.

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What kind of music are you guys into?

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Alternative punk, I guess... Uh, a little bit of everything.

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-Like hardcore.

-Some hardcore and pop punk music.

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We're both really into, I guess, the local scene.

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I mean, if you're not doing anything on Saturday,

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I mean, there's a really cool show, so, you should stop by.

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Yeah, that actually sounds pretty fun, I might do that.

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I think I've definitely got a lot in common with Kelsie,

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I think we kind of connected a little bit

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and I'd like to see kind of where that goes with her.

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It's the first time Devon has felt a connection

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since splitting up with his ex.

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But it's too soon for Devon to tell Kelsie

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that he was once a girl named Addison.

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-OLIVIAH:

-When you are transgender, you are...

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Young trans Americans are not only sharing posts about their feelings,

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they're also sharing updates

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about the medical challenges of becoming trans.

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I have testosterone, which makes you go through the roof.

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And the first step to change your gender

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is to take hormones.

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Arin started taking testosterone, or T, when he was 15,

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sharing the momentous occasion on social media.

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And there's my first shot.

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Today is my first day on T.

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Um, I feel like a new man.

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Basically, I was pretty much born today.

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Ouch.

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-This is the part that hurts, yeah.

-Does it sting?

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He also shared how T was affecting him,

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updating his vlog to show each change as it happened.

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I've got like...

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..a moustache, if you can see it.

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Here's my arms... They're getting there.

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I got a lot of hair right here.

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Quite a bit of a happy trail going all the way up.

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Sideburns... I don't know if you can see the hair on that.

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My Adam's apple, I don't know if you guys can see it,

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but it's frickin' huge, like...

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T even affects the shape of female genitals.

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Downstairs... is, like, two and a half inches.

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And for you trans guys out there that know what that's like,

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it's kind of crazy.

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Nothing looks like normal biological female any more.

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As these changes made Arin more of a man,

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he turned his back on Emerald, the reluctant pageant queen.

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These are all my beauty pageant trophies

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that I won a long time ago, before I started transitioning.

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That's my past.

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Until aged 12, when he, then still a she, had had enough.

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What male wants to be in beauty pageants?

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I was a guy in a dress.

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So I just wanted to, you know, get rid of them,

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so I just took them out of my room and threw them in here,

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cos they don't mean much to me.

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Just a bunch of crap, basically.

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Whilst Arin's mum was supportive,

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she struggled to let go of the daughter she used to have.

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I always get so emotional, I, I...

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This was the Emerald I knew. I mean, this is what I've always known.

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This was, like, a huge part of her life and...

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all of her...her dance costumes, I've saved them every year.

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I haven't gotten rid of them.

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He looked so cute in this one, oh!

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It's adorable.

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I still want to say "she" because I hang on to that.

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The girl I had. It's kind of like when someone dies...

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you still want to, I guess, honour that.

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I don't know, it's just really hard.

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Um, but "she" just sounds better

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when you're talking about her dance costumes...

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So...sorry!

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Hey, Mom, can you come help me, real quick?

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Sure.

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OK.

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Devon's mum injects him with T once a week.

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Using it means that he will NEVER be able to have children.

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I had periods up until I was 16 when I started testosterone.

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And it took about...

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..maybe two to three months for them to stop.

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But one side effect took Devon by surprise.

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Being on testosterone definitely raises your sex drive.

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'I heard that!'

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-Yeah, I know!

-LAUGHTER

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-No, Mom, it doesn't make me horny!

-'Uh-huh.'

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Whilst Arin and Devon need testosterone injected

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to maintain their transition,

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Claire's body still produces the male hormone naturally.

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I am taking...four pills a day...

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Spironolactone, which is...

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Basically, it blocks the testosterone,

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so I won't get any manlier, praise Jesus.

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And then I'm on oestrogens.

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When I first started taking the oestrogen, my...

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and hormones, my emotions were kind of like at a high as a female.

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Cos I wanted to cry before, as a guy.

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I actually was frustrated that I could never cry.

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Before she started taking hormones,

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Claire used to be an all-American boy named Dylan,

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growing up in a small town in Virginia.

0:16:440:16:46

My neighbour's probably looking at me, like,

0:16:460:16:48

"When did they get a daughter?"

0:16:480:16:50

Despite Claire's small town upbringing,

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her family have tried their best to support her.

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It's just hard cos everybody has been calling you "Dylan" and "he,"

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like, their whole life and then,

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like, this past year everything's changed,

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so it's kind of different.

0:17:030:17:04

The hardest thing for me is getting used to saying "she".

0:17:040:17:07

Like, when people mess up, like... pronouns and stuff,

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it kind of just, like... really upsets me.

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It kind of, like, wants to make me cry.

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Claire's mum has been on her side from the start.

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I've-I've seen your tears, I've been there...

0:17:210:17:25

through this whole process.

0:17:250:17:27

I know what you've been going through.

0:17:270:17:29

Well, let me ask you this - what kind of guy do you see me with?

0:17:290:17:32

I think you just have to see.

0:17:320:17:33

You just have to... I mean, this is still, you know,

0:17:330:17:37

you're still learning.

0:17:370:17:39

It's just a learning process.

0:17:390:17:40

You're going to make mistakes, you just learn from your mistakes.

0:17:400:17:45

And see what's good for you.

0:17:450:17:46

Whitney, what kind of guy should I date?

0:17:460:17:49

WHITNEY BABBLES, LAUGHTER

0:17:490:17:52

When I came out as transgender,

0:17:520:17:53

my mom's side of the family accepted it.

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Then there was my dad's side that, like, completely didn't accept it.

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They think it's, like, a super-big sin.

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And, like, I'm an abomination.

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Like, that's what my dad told me I was.

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He called me once I came out as trans.

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Told me that everyone thought I was an abomination.

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It's Saturday night...

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and Devon has been waiting all week

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to see the girl he met at the skate park, Kelsie.

0:18:230:18:26

-How are you doing?

-Good, good. How are you?

0:18:260:18:28

Thanks for inviting me to the show.

0:18:280:18:30

-Yeah.

-It looks pretty cool. It's outside, that's dope.

0:18:300:18:33

I know, yeah, it's been pretty cool so far.

0:18:330:18:35

-Awesome, did I miss much?

-Kind of.

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-You ready to watch?

-Yes.

0:18:370:18:39

Cool.

0:18:390:18:40

LOUD MUSIC PLAYS Devon wants to wait to tell Kelsie he's trans.

0:18:400:18:44

She seems into him, but he has been rejected in the past.

0:18:450:18:49

Recently, this girl and me went on a date and everything was fine.

0:18:490:18:53

Um, and then I felt the need to kind of tell her that I was transgender.

0:18:530:18:57

I remember her...her saying, "Nah, dude, I like guys."

0:18:570:19:01

And I was like..."OK."

0:19:010:19:04

That kind of hit hard, I was like, "But I am a guy."

0:19:040:19:06

And she's like, "Yeah, but you're not."

0:19:060:19:08

ROCK MUSIC PLAYS

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-BAND MEMBER:

-'Yeah!'

-CHEERING

0:19:120:19:14

'I love you guys!'

0:19:140:19:16

The last band actually was really, really good, honestly.

0:19:160:19:18

I definitely could have, like, danced and grooved to them, you know what I'm saying?

0:19:180:19:22

Yeah, no, they're really good, I like them.

0:19:220:19:23

Since you kind of showed me, like, what you're into, I write a lot,

0:19:230:19:26

um, so I was wondering if you kind of want to go to this poetry slam with me?

0:19:260:19:29

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

0:19:290:19:30

-Yeah, that'd be super cool.

-Cool, awesome.

0:19:300:19:32

-That'd be super cool, I've never been to one.

-Sweet.

0:19:320:19:34

But telling Kelsie he's trans is not the only thing on Devon's mind.

0:19:360:19:40

His ex-girlfriend, Rebecca, has been in contact

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to say that she still has feelings for him.

0:19:430:19:46

Devon's moved on, though.

0:19:460:19:47

He doesn't want a long-distance relationship

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and feels he must go back to Iowa to tell her in person.

0:19:500:19:54

Rebecca understands, you know, like that I'm here

0:19:540:19:56

and the distance is hard.

0:19:560:19:57

I definitely think it'd be good to...

0:19:570:19:59

To see her and talk to her

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and kind of talk in person cos over phone and text message

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you can't kind of get that reaction

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of the other person's face instantly, you know?

0:20:050:20:07

After nine months on hormones,

0:20:080:20:10

Claire is about to take a major step on her trans journey.

0:20:100:20:14

It's a big day today because it's the first time I...

0:20:140:20:16

..have ever been to the beach as Claire and it's like...

0:20:180:20:21

I don't know how to feel about it.

0:20:210:20:23

Like, I'm really excited, but at the same time I think...

0:20:230:20:27

not nervous, but I don't know what to expect.

0:20:270:20:33

-Hi!

-GIRLS:

-Hey!

0:20:370:20:38

Claire and her friends

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want to see if they can meet some hot guys at the beach.

0:20:400:20:42

I'm excited!

0:20:420:20:44

I mean, there's probably a lot of cute guys out today.

0:20:440:20:47

-I feel like just scope out the area.

-Yeah, looking is always fun.

0:20:470:20:50

It's the first time Claire has worn a bikini in public.

0:20:510:20:54

# If you gave me a chance I would take it

0:20:540:20:59

# It's a shot in the dark but I'll make it... #

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And the guys seem to be paying attention.

0:21:020:21:05

# ..You can't shake me... #

0:21:050:21:06

Good, how are you?

0:21:060:21:08

-Zoey.

-Zoey? I'm Casey.

-I'm Mike, nice to meet you.

0:21:080:21:10

-I'm Claire.

-GUYS:

-Nice to meet you.

0:21:100:21:11

What kind of guys are you ladies into?

0:21:110:21:13

Do you like the blond surfer kind of guy? Skater dude?

0:21:130:21:16

Like, is it personality that gets you or is it like...?

0:21:160:21:19

-Yeah, definitely.

-Definitely personality?

0:21:190:21:21

Yeah, if a guy is, like, really funny and makes me laugh

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and I can, like, be comfortable around him, it's a plus.

0:21:250:21:28

So not to be like forward or anything but, like...

0:21:280:21:31

do you think we're cute?

0:21:310:21:33

-Most definitely.

-Really?

0:21:330:21:35

Gorgeous. I think you ladies are gorgeous.

0:21:350:21:38

-MIKE: We should hook up sometime, hang out, you know?

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:21:380:21:41

-Heck, yeah.

-We'll always be here.

-You need to, like, get our numbers.

0:21:410:21:44

Sure thing.

0:21:440:21:45

So, do I just put you in here as "Beautiful"?

0:21:460:21:48

LAUGHTER

0:21:480:21:51

-Of course, yeah.

-OK.

0:21:510:21:54

Bye.

0:21:540:21:55

But when the guys found out the girls were trans, things changed.

0:21:550:21:58

That's it, silence. Like nothing from them again.

0:21:580:22:02

In a lot of ways, I don't like telling a guy

0:22:020:22:06

because once I tell him, it's, like, all respect goes out the window.

0:22:060:22:12

Straight guys just can't get over you having the male parts.

0:22:120:22:18

Once I had or get the surgery, I think it will change a lot for me

0:22:180:22:22

because right now, you know, if I meet a straight guy

0:22:220:22:25

and he doesn't know, like, you know, we can't get physical.

0:22:250:22:29

If I don't tell him, like, and then if he finds out, like...

0:22:290:22:32

Just things get so complicated that you don't even begin to...

0:22:320:22:38

I can't even, yeah, begin to explain.

0:22:380:22:40

Claire is considering getting surgery

0:22:400:22:42

so that guys will accept her fully as a woman.

0:22:420:22:45

-Hi, Claire, how are you?

-Hi...

0:22:470:22:49

What I'd like to do is just get a sense of what you feel

0:22:490:22:52

would be the amount that you would want.

0:22:520:22:55

Claire wants three procedures - first, a boob job.

0:22:550:22:58

See now that, that's getting up into a full C cup

0:22:590:23:03

and I think that might be a little bit more difficult to fit.

0:23:030:23:06

You may not have enough skin to fit an implant that's too large.

0:23:060:23:10

Then she wants her Adam's apple shaved.

0:23:100:23:12

What we would do is basically just shave off a little piece

0:23:120:23:15

on either side here...

0:23:150:23:16

But the third surgery is risky and highly invasive

0:23:160:23:19

and the hardest for Claire to decide on.

0:23:190:23:22

We can make, for example, a vagina for you.

0:23:220:23:24

Uh, we use the skin from the inside of your thighs...

0:23:240:23:27

-Oh.

-..and we create, like, a tunnel.

0:23:270:23:30

Uh, sometimes we can just use them up in your groin area, here,

0:23:300:23:32

so you don't quite see it all the way down on your,

0:23:320:23:35

-on your thighs area.

-Scars?

0:23:350:23:36

Scars are higher up.

0:23:360:23:38

-Plus, you'd have to have your penis resected.

-Mm.

0:23:380:23:40

And, um, what we try to do sometimes is save some of the...

0:23:400:23:44

the sensation, the nerve sensations.

0:23:440:23:46

-Yeah, yeah...

-But, um, you know, again,

0:23:460:23:49

that would never quite be as sensitive as...

0:23:490:23:52

-Before.

-..before.

0:23:520:23:54

-I don't want the feeling to go away...

-Yeah, yeah.

0:23:540:23:57

..and never have feeling down there again.

0:23:570:23:59

Right. If you ever wanted to have, you know, somebody penetrate...

0:23:590:24:02

-Uh-huh.

-..then you would have to have something inside,

0:24:020:24:05

kind of keeping that skin from contracting,

0:24:050:24:08

until it had a chance to fully heal.

0:24:080:24:10

It's a big step, there's no doubt about that.

0:24:100:24:12

-It's a big step.

-And I have to be prepared fully for it.

0:24:120:24:15

-Yes, yes.

-Mentally and, like, physically.

-Absolutely.

0:24:150:24:17

As Claire considers this drastic next step,

0:24:170:24:20

she turns to Arin and Katie's vlogs for help.

0:24:200:24:23

Ah! I'm only three days away with the surgery and I'm so excited!

0:24:240:24:27

This is a big, big, big... big deal!

0:24:270:24:31

For all of y'all who are transgender or in the community,

0:24:320:24:35

you know that having surgery is a very life-changing event.

0:24:350:24:40

Three years ago,

0:24:400:24:41

Arin and Katie shared the mental and physical highs and lows

0:24:410:24:44

of their own surgical transition, with millions online.

0:24:440:24:48

Katie was the first to have surgery.

0:24:480:24:51

I'm on my way to the waiting room to get my surgery.

0:24:510:24:55

It's in two hours and 14 minutes and counting.

0:24:550:24:58

I'm sitting here kind of... a little worried

0:24:580:25:00

because the surgery's about four hours long...

0:25:000:25:03

Katie's bottom surgery

0:25:030:25:04

meant that her penis was fashioned into a vagina and clitoris

0:25:040:25:07

and her testicles were cut off.

0:25:070:25:09

It hurts... It hurts so badly and...

0:25:100:25:14

I miss you...

0:25:140:25:16

Despite the immense pain, Katie felt freer.

0:25:180:25:21

Inside I'm crying, I'm just so happy.

0:25:210:25:24

SHE SNIFFLES

0:25:240:25:26

It's very key for your personality.

0:25:260:25:30

You have to, you know, be a strong person

0:25:300:25:32

and if you're not, then you... transitioning is not for you.

0:25:320:25:37

Claire feels stronger knowing that Katie has done

0:25:370:25:40

what SHE someday hopes to do.

0:25:400:25:42

If Katie Hill can get gender reassignment surgery,

0:25:420:25:45

then so can I and so can you.

0:25:450:25:47

In the vlogosphere,

0:25:490:25:50

Devon still has his ex, Rebecca, on his mind.

0:25:500:25:54

I guess to start out, I had dated this girl, um, for a while,

0:25:540:25:59

but she...really made me kind of comfortable in my own skin

0:25:590:26:05

cos she really appreciated, like, my body and, like,

0:26:050:26:08

didn't see anything wrong with it,

0:26:080:26:10

which was kind of like a first that I'd ever experienced.

0:26:100:26:13

Rebecca's been in contact with Devon to say that she loves him.

0:26:130:26:16

For Devon, the relationship is over,

0:26:160:26:18

so he's driving to his old town in Iowa for a heart-to-heart.

0:26:180:26:22

I think if she asks about Kelsie, I'll...

0:26:230:26:26

I'll definitely, I won't lie to her or anything.

0:26:260:26:29

But I don't think that's something

0:26:290:26:30

that I would just choose to talk about

0:26:300:26:32

because I know that if I did, that would hurt her.

0:26:320:26:35

Rebecca is part of a group of close friends Devon left behind in Iowa,

0:26:350:26:38

so visiting gives him the perfect chance to catch up with the gang.

0:26:380:26:42

LAUGHTER

0:26:440:26:46

SHE LAUGHS

0:26:470:26:49

Aah!

0:26:490:26:51

But he needs to clarify his feelings with Rebecca.

0:26:580:27:01

Obviously, I liked you.

0:27:010:27:03

Just cos you used to do some things

0:27:030:27:06

that, like, frickin' movie people do.

0:27:060:27:10

What are these movie things that I did?

0:27:100:27:12

Like...on my way back from youth group.

0:27:120:27:16

That was the first time you pulled a move on me.

0:27:170:27:19

-LAUGHING:

-In the back of my grandma's car!

0:27:190:27:22

What was the move?

0:27:220:27:24

You leaned in to kiss me, and then we started kissing...

0:27:240:27:29

One thing led to another...

0:27:290:27:31

Kind of explored each other's bodies a bit!

0:27:310:27:34

SHE LAUGHS

0:27:340:27:35

It's just...really easy to...

0:27:350:27:39

fall in love with you, so...

0:27:390:27:41

I don't want that, it's not what I want.

0:27:420:27:45

You're a cool person...

0:27:450:27:47

Like, I don't know. I don't like you in that way.

0:27:480:27:52

Having this conversation today and it not going as well as planned,

0:27:530:27:56

I think it makes it a little bit clearer that Iowa

0:27:560:28:00

and Rebecca is in the past

0:28:000:28:02

and the future in Minnesota holds Kelsie and...seeing where that goes.

0:28:020:28:08

BELL JINGLES

0:28:120:28:14

After being rejected at the beach, Claire has called in BFF Oliviah

0:28:140:28:18

to spruce up her online dating profile.

0:28:180:28:21

So, what dating apps are you using?

0:28:210:28:24

Well, I've been using OkCupid...

0:28:240:28:28

What should I say, I'm trans?

0:28:280:28:30

Is that something you're comfortable with saying?

0:28:300:28:32

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:28:320:28:33

-Transgender...

-Just kind of add it in there...

0:28:330:28:36

Do you consider yourself straight or bisexual?

0:28:360:28:38

-I'm straight.

-Straight. OK.

0:28:380:28:40

So your self-summary says,

0:28:400:28:42

"If you want to know more about me, message me," really?

0:28:420:28:44

-Well, yeah!

-Who are you? Who is Claire?

0:28:440:28:48

Claire is a kind person.

0:28:490:28:52

Kind and genuine.

0:28:520:28:54

Claire has found an online profile of someone she fancies.

0:28:540:28:58

His name is Jason.

0:28:580:29:00

-Oh, yeah? Is this him?

-Yeah.

0:29:000:29:02

Ooh!

0:29:030:29:04

In his profile, Jason has listed he's open to dating anyone,

0:29:040:29:07

no matter what sexuality or gender.

0:29:070:29:09

-He's just, like, perfect.

-He's perfect?

0:29:110:29:13

-Yeah.

-Well, have you ever, like, tried talking to him?

0:29:130:29:17

Not really. Um, I'm just kind of scared, you know what I mean?

0:29:170:29:20

-Like, of like...

-Why are you scared? What pushes you back?

0:29:200:29:23

Rejection.

0:29:230:29:24

Why don't you message him?

0:29:240:29:26

Just say, "I'd like the chance to get to know you," and then just...

0:29:260:29:29

-Send it.

-Send it, yeah.

0:29:290:29:30

-Did it.

-All done! Yay!

0:29:320:29:34

Being single and confused about your gender can be traumatic.

0:29:340:29:38

When you're transgender, it is very easy to feel unlovable and like,

0:29:380:29:44

you will not be able to find someone who will be accepting of you...

0:29:440:29:49

Before he found love with Katie, Arin's vlogs tell a different story,

0:29:490:29:53

one that was almost too hard to share.

0:29:530:29:55

A year ago, I actually tried to commit suicide.

0:29:570:30:00

You know, you get to that point when you're just like, "I give up".

0:30:010:30:05

Arin felt so much shame about being trans

0:30:050:30:08

that he couldn't even show his face whilst sharing his feelings.

0:30:080:30:11

And he's not alone.

0:30:190:30:20

Nearly half of all transgender teens

0:30:200:30:22

attempt suicide.

0:30:220:30:24

Using his experiences, Arin wanted to share a message of hope.

0:30:240:30:27

You know, it's just like one of those moments in life

0:30:270:30:29

that is insane and...

0:30:290:30:32

and then I look back and I'm like, "Well, look at me.

0:30:320:30:34

"I'm on testosterone, my hair is short,

0:30:340:30:36

"I have the most amazing and beautiful girlfriend

0:30:360:30:38

"that I could ever ask for and my life's just incredible."

0:30:380:30:41

Never give up, guys. I promise you it gets better.

0:30:410:30:44

Devon almost ended it all too.

0:30:440:30:47

Until he found Arin's YouTube videos.

0:30:470:30:49

When I was younger I saw a few of Arin's videos.

0:30:520:30:54

Watching his videos definitely made me feel like

0:30:540:30:56

I wasn't all alone, that I wasn't all by myself.

0:30:560:30:59

It was... "This is OK, me being transgender,

0:30:590:31:01

"and there's other folks out there

0:31:010:31:02

"who feel exactly the same way that I feel."

0:31:020:31:04

'I'm determined to be, you know, that man I always saw myself as.'

0:31:040:31:08

Arin's ambition to get surgery inspired Devon in particular.

0:31:080:31:11

'These changes that I've been telling you guys

0:31:110:31:14

'are one of the most important things and factors

0:31:140:31:16

'in my life right now, especially my chest...'

0:31:160:31:18

With his vlog, Arin wanted to inspire and reassure

0:31:180:31:20

other trans teens going through the same thing.

0:31:200:31:22

I'm super, super excited, you know. Top surgery's tomorrow!

0:31:220:31:26

Like, I thought I'd never be able to say that.

0:31:260:31:28

Next time you see me,

0:31:280:31:29

I will never have these wonderful thingies any more.

0:31:290:31:34

Nope, they're going to be gone.

0:31:340:31:35

Yeah, I'll see you when I'm boobless.

0:31:350:31:37

After Katie's surgery, it's now Arin's turn to go under the knife.

0:31:390:31:43

Uh, blade...

0:31:430:31:45

Surgeons performed a double mastectomy

0:31:450:31:47

to remove his breast tissue.

0:31:470:31:50

He needed time to recover, but as soon as he did, he was back online.

0:31:520:31:57

I'm starting to feel it now. I got my drain tubes and stuff.

0:31:570:32:02

It's pretty much all I can see, but I'm so happy to be flat-chested.

0:32:020:32:06

And he couldn't wait to send a video to Katie too.

0:32:060:32:09

Hey, baby.

0:32:090:32:11

I just wanted to send you a video and tell you that I love you.

0:32:110:32:14

I love you.

0:32:140:32:15

Back in Oklahoma, Katie was eager to see the new Arin.

0:32:170:32:20

More than anything, I just missed him when he was gone.

0:32:200:32:22

I understand Arin probably better than anybody else.

0:32:220:32:26

I think that bond that we have, it is...it's unbreakable.

0:32:260:32:31

He felt like he was ready, just like how I was ready for my surgery.

0:32:310:32:36

CAR ALARM SETTING BLEEPS

0:32:360:32:38

-Hey!

-Hey, baby!

0:32:380:32:40

-BOTH:

-Hey!

0:32:400:32:41

-How're you feeling?

-I'm a little sore, but...it's all good.

0:32:410:32:45

-Oh, wow!

-I've still got some scar tissue round my nipple

0:32:470:32:51

and here, but... it's starting to go away

0:32:510:32:54

and this side is my better side.

0:32:540:32:56

You look good. He did a really good job.

0:32:560:32:58

It's kind of empowering, you know?

0:33:000:33:01

Seeing him without a shirt on

0:33:010:33:03

and seeing that he really doesn't have any scars

0:33:030:33:05

is really cool and kind of gives me hope.

0:33:050:33:07

Arin has inspired Devon to take the plunge

0:33:070:33:10

and to book an appointment to talk about surgery.

0:33:100:33:12

I think after having top surgery

0:33:120:33:14

I'll definitely feel a lot more comfortable around girls

0:33:140:33:17

and, um, kind of getting into the intimate part of being with girls.

0:33:170:33:22

I've only been comfortable sharing my body completely,

0:33:220:33:27

like, fully naked, with one girl, um, ever before in my life.

0:33:270:33:31

Claire's new online profile has got a response.

0:33:360:33:39

She calls up best friend, Oliviah, to dish.

0:33:420:33:45

Hey!

0:33:450:33:46

'Hey, how's it going?'

0:33:460:33:48

Good... Oh, my gosh, guess who just messaged me?

0:33:480:33:50

'Who?'

0:33:500:33:52

Jason.

0:33:520:33:53

'Really?'

0:33:530:33:54

Well, he said that he wants to go on a date.

0:33:540:33:57

'Good!'

0:33:570:33:58

Hopefully I get a kiss!

0:33:580:33:59

-Hi, Claire!

-Hi!

0:34:010:34:03

-You ready for your appointment?

-Yes.

0:34:030:34:04

-We'll be with you in a minute.

-OK, thank you.

0:34:040:34:06

But before any kissing,

0:34:060:34:08

Claire wants to make sure her skin is stubble-free.

0:34:080:34:11

Like, less than a year ago, I had a full-on beard.

0:34:110:34:14

Like, full-on. Like, thick.

0:34:140:34:18

Had to shave, like...

0:34:180:34:20

twice a day.

0:34:200:34:22

I would never wish...

0:34:220:34:24

for a woman to go through this.

0:34:240:34:26

AIR GUSHES FROM INSTRUMENT, MACHINE BLEEPS

0:34:260:34:29

-How're you doing?

-Good, I'm fine.

0:34:290:34:31

Great.

0:34:310:34:32

Claire undergoes laser treatments, monthly,

0:34:320:34:34

to kill the hair follicles in her face.

0:34:340:34:37

OK, we're going to do a little bit on your upper lip...

0:34:370:34:40

That's, like, the worst.

0:34:400:34:42

-That's the worst part, I know.

-Yeah...

0:34:420:34:44

Beautiful.

0:34:490:34:51

All right, Claire... We made it!

0:34:510:34:54

It's looking great.

0:34:540:34:56

-Good?

-Yep, we're good.

0:34:560:34:58

-Hey, Claire, it looks really good.

-Thank you.

0:34:590:35:02

I'm so excited...

0:35:020:35:03

I can't believe it's only been less than a year since we started.

0:35:030:35:06

It's very important for my skin to be smooth,

0:35:060:35:09

just cos, like, I'm going on a date and I don't want any stubble!

0:35:090:35:15

-Abso...

-That would be...not good.

0:35:150:35:17

-Yeah.

-Just in case, like, he kisses me or something...

0:35:170:35:19

-There's women that would die for your skin, so...

-Thank you.

0:35:190:35:23

Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, just keep doing what you're doing.

0:35:230:35:26

I think we're well on our way to being done with this part

0:35:260:35:28

of your journey.

0:35:280:35:29

Hair was just a big thing... Like, I hated it.

0:35:300:35:35

Having to, like, shave!

0:35:350:35:37

Imagine being a woman, growing a beard.

0:35:370:35:41

That's how it felt.

0:35:410:35:42

Inspired by Arin,

0:35:430:35:45

Devon follows up with a doctor, who specialises in transgender medicine.

0:35:450:35:48

What's it feel like, I mean... to have the breasts?

0:35:480:35:53

It'd be lovely to get them off so I can do some stuff, like swimming,

0:35:530:35:57

and hang out with the guys and have no questions asked about it.

0:35:570:36:01

You want to have your plan in place by October to have surgery when?

0:36:010:36:06

-As soon as we can.

-OK!

-BOTH LAUGH

0:36:060:36:09

-A soon as the money's there and we have a date, you know?

-OK.

0:36:090:36:12

Top surgery costs at least £6,000.

0:36:120:36:16

But Devon wants to go one step further than Arin

0:36:160:36:18

and have bottom surgery, building a penis from a graft of his skin.

0:36:180:36:22

This can cost almost ten times as much.

0:36:220:36:25

So for YOU, what you would want would be a functional penis.

0:36:250:36:29

-Yeah.

-I mean, that you can pee through...

0:36:290:36:32

-Yeah.

-..that would get an erection when you get excited...

0:36:320:36:35

-Yeah.

-..and be able to, uh, perform sexually.

0:36:350:36:38

-Yeah.

-And that's kind of what you want.

0:36:380:36:40

Mm-hm.

0:36:400:36:41

Cool.

0:36:410:36:42

Until he can have the surgery he wants, Devon has to improvise.

0:36:420:36:47

"Packing" is the transgender term for...

0:36:490:36:52

you know, I would basically say just putting anything in your pants

0:36:520:36:56

to kind of give you that shape and that oomph of having a penis.

0:36:560:36:59

DEVON MUTTERS TO HIMSELF

0:36:590:37:01

It makes me feel more myself, more of what I want in my body.

0:37:030:37:06

If medicine was advanced,

0:37:060:37:08

I would definitely hop on board of the train of getting, um, a penis.

0:37:080:37:12

I don't want to die a female.

0:37:120:37:13

The best advice I could give somebody, um, is that...

0:37:150:37:19

be confident in who you are and if somebody doesn't agree with that...

0:37:190:37:23

..then, you know, you don't deserve that.

0:37:250:37:27

Thanks to the internet,

0:37:270:37:28

many in the transgender community have new-found confidence.

0:37:280:37:32

Do you see this shirt?

0:37:320:37:33

It says, "Transgender Woman".

0:37:360:37:39

This movement is real, yo...

0:37:400:37:42

Arin vlogs about the physical effects of surgery and how he feels.

0:37:420:37:46

These are my nipples, they're, um...

0:37:460:37:48

I got some scar tissue right here, but it's nothing horribly bad.

0:37:480:37:53

And this is my other nipple. This is my better side.

0:37:530:37:56

I mean, I can't even tell you how happy I am with my results

0:37:560:37:58

and just finally being able to go to the lake now and be shirtless.

0:37:580:38:03

He and Katie were ready to spend their summer at the lake...

0:38:060:38:08

confident that their post-surgery bodies had finally got them

0:38:080:38:12

to where they'd always wanted to be.

0:38:120:38:14

I don't think anyone, unless they know our story,

0:38:140:38:16

actually would come to the conclusion

0:38:160:38:18

-that we're trans-man, trans-woman dating.

-Yeah.

0:38:180:38:20

They would just see us as a boy and a girl dating.

0:38:200:38:23

The news media picked up on their story.

0:38:240:38:27

It was a whole new level of exposure.

0:38:280:38:31

-REPORTER:

-'Now a month after surgery,

0:38:310:38:33

'Arin is ready to reveal his new manly chest.

0:38:330:38:35

'Off comes his shirt. Katie couldn't be more impressed.'

0:38:350:38:39

Fantastic.

0:38:390:38:40

I can stick my chest out

0:38:420:38:43

and just be happy with who I am and confident about it.

0:38:430:38:46

I feel amazing.

0:38:460:38:47

As their fame grew, so did their following.

0:38:470:38:51

The golden couple were having the time of their lives.

0:38:510:38:54

Alone together...

0:38:540:38:56

..with nine million people watching them online.

0:38:570:39:00

For Claire, it's the moment she's been prepping for...

0:39:030:39:06

a date with her online crush, Jason.

0:39:060:39:09

Jason has read Claire's online dating profile

0:39:090:39:12

and already knows she's transgender.

0:39:120:39:15

I'm feeling really, really excited.

0:39:150:39:18

We've been talking online for a little while and...

0:39:180:39:21

yeah, like, he just seems like a really, really good guy.

0:39:210:39:24

-Hi! I'm here to meet Jason.

-Right!

0:39:250:39:28

Right this way, please.

0:39:280:39:30

-Hi!

-Hey, how are you?

0:39:310:39:34

Good to see you.

0:39:340:39:36

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you too.

0:39:360:39:38

You're so handsome.

0:39:380:39:39

-LAUGHING:

-Well, thanks, you look very nice yourself.

0:39:390:39:42

D'you find it OK?

0:39:420:39:43

It was a little hard to find, to be honest,

0:39:430:39:45

cos it's, like, literally in an alley.

0:39:450:39:47

That's why it's called The Alley Light.

0:39:470:39:49

-JASON LAUGHS

-Whatever.

0:39:490:39:50

-Here are your cocktail menus...

-Thank you, thank you.

0:39:500:39:53

-I'll be back in just two minutes.

-Oh, is this the goat cheese?

0:39:530:39:56

-This is the green beans with the frozen foie gras.

-Oh!

0:39:560:39:58

-Thank you!

-You're welcome.

-Thank you so much.

0:39:580:40:00

I just really need to know, like...

0:40:020:40:04

What kinda... What type do you like?

0:40:040:40:08

If you look at pictures of the people that I've dated,

0:40:080:40:11

it would be really hard to find, like, a pattern or a type.

0:40:110:40:15

I really like kind eyes and a genuine smile,

0:40:150:40:18

but aside from that,

0:40:180:40:19

I don't look at anything physical when it comes to anybody.

0:40:190:40:22

Your type is really just, like, a genuine person?

0:40:220:40:26

Yeah. Like I said, open to anybody.

0:40:260:40:30

Have you ever, and answer this question honestly...

0:40:300:40:34

-Uh-huh.

-Have you ever, and would you ever...

0:40:340:40:36

..be with a trans person?

0:40:380:40:39

No, and sure.

0:40:390:40:42

-No, and sure...

-Yeah.

-..what does that mean?

0:40:420:40:44

-No - I haven't ever been with a trans person.

-Oh, OK.

0:40:440:40:46

I have never been, like, out dating, you know, a trans person.

0:40:460:40:50

And, sure, why not?

0:40:500:40:52

-When it comes to physical contact...

-Yep.

0:40:520:40:55

..when do you get intimate and stuff like that, like, how soon?

0:40:560:41:01

Uh, when the time is right.

0:41:010:41:03

I don't think there's a timetable for it, I really don't.

0:41:030:41:06

-You don't really rush it?

-No, definitely not.

0:41:060:41:08

-It's not, like, the first thing on your mind?

-No.

0:41:080:41:11

Typically, I do hold off for quite a while

0:41:110:41:12

before I have any sort of physical contact with somebody.

0:41:120:41:15

-That is, like, baffling to me.

-Why is that baffling to you?

0:41:150:41:19

Because there's so many guys that...

0:41:210:41:24

-..that's all that's on their mind.

-Mm-hm.

0:41:260:41:29

-Like, literally.

-Mm-hm.

0:41:290:41:30

Jason has ticked all the boxes.

0:41:320:41:34

But will Claire get the kiss her cheeks are ready for?

0:41:340:41:38

-It's been a nice night.

-Well, I'm heading out.

0:41:380:41:41

-I'm an old man, need to go to bed. Mm!

-Text me, call me.

0:41:410:41:44

-Will see you later, OK?

-Bye.

0:41:440:41:46

Bye.

0:41:460:41:47

I really, really think Jason is...

0:41:490:41:52

..boyfriend material?

0:41:530:41:56

But that's too early to say!

0:41:560:41:57

But I really, really like him a lot.

0:41:580:42:00

Devon is preparing for his date...

0:42:020:42:05

but Kelsie still doesn't know that he's trans.

0:42:050:42:09

So, tonight, he needs his mum's advice on a poem with a purpose.

0:42:090:42:13

-Kelsie, that cute girl that I saw at the skate park...

-Mm-hm.

0:42:140:42:18

I saw her at the show and we kind of made a little connection

0:42:180:42:20

and I invited her to this poetry slam,

0:42:200:42:22

which is the reason why I'm kind of writing this to...

0:42:220:42:24

kind of tell her that I'm trans.

0:42:240:42:26

-What d'you think about that?

-I just don't think this is a good idea.

0:42:260:42:29

-It's kind of like dropping a bomb on someone.

-Yeah.

0:42:290:42:31

I'm kind of putting myself in her shoes

0:42:310:42:34

and even if I was very supportive and an ally, I'd be like,

0:42:340:42:37

-"Whoa, dude, did you really?!"

-Yeah.

0:42:370:42:40

She could take it wrong and not know what to do, you know?

0:42:400:42:43

She'll, like, bail, or, like, you know, just chill there.

0:42:430:42:46

I mean, she could take it really well.

0:42:460:42:48

I think if at all possible, Devon,

0:42:480:42:49

-if you can have a little time with her before this...

-Mm-hm...

0:42:490:42:52

..and just let her know then.

0:42:520:42:53

D'you know what I'm saying?

0:42:530:42:55

Yeah, I know what you're saying. I feel you.

0:42:550:42:57

The next day, Devon thinks about WHEN he should tell Kelsie the truth.

0:42:570:43:02

There's a lot of anxiety of telling people that I'm transgender

0:43:030:43:06

and especially new people, telling them, it's...

0:43:060:43:10

Cos, I mean, you can have, like, a really nice person

0:43:100:43:13

who completely loves you for who you are,

0:43:130:43:15

but then they can completely turn their back around you

0:43:150:43:17

when you bring this up.

0:43:170:43:19

Cos it is such a complex thing to think about.

0:43:190:43:22

That evening, Devon has finally made up his mind

0:43:220:43:25

to tell Kelsie that he's transgender.

0:43:250:43:28

But he's decided to tell her in private.

0:43:340:43:36

The following afternoon,

0:43:450:43:47

Devon waits to see if Kelsie is going to turn up to meet him.

0:43:470:43:50

I'm not too open about, you know, being trans with new faces,

0:43:500:43:54

new people.

0:43:540:43:55

A lot of nerves kind of running through my body right now.

0:43:550:43:58

But Kelsie does come and Devon has a chance to talk things through.

0:43:580:44:01

-Hey!

-Hey!

0:44:010:44:03

-How are you?

-Good.

0:44:030:44:04

-Could we take a seat and talk for a sec?

-Yeah. Of course.

0:44:040:44:07

-Yeah, are you nervous?

-Yeah, extremely nervous.

0:44:070:44:10

So, I felt like before anything kind of got a little serious between us

0:44:110:44:15

that I should tell you that.

0:44:150:44:18

-Does that surprise you in any way?

-I mean, honestly, yeah.

0:44:180:44:21

Like I-I guess I wouldn't have known if you didn't tell me.

0:44:210:44:26

Um... But like I said, like - there's nothing wrong, so I mean...

0:44:260:44:32

Yeah, but I... I honestly wouldn't have guessed, but...

0:44:320:44:34

The reason kind of why I told you that

0:44:340:44:36

and why I'm kind of nervous about this whole thing

0:44:360:44:38

is cos of the poem...

0:44:380:44:39

-The poem that I wrote is trans-related and it kind of...

-Oh.

0:44:390:44:42

It ties in with all of that and I just, you know,

0:44:420:44:44

wanted to tell you beforehand, before I, like,

0:44:440:44:46

sideswiped you with a...

0:44:460:44:47

-Yeah, yeah, no, that... Thank you for telling me before.

-..The poem.

0:44:470:44:51

-You ready to go in?

-Yeah, I am.

0:44:510:44:52

Cool.

0:44:520:44:54

-WOMAN:

-'Welcome to the ReVerb Open Mic, how's everybody doing tonight?'

0:44:540:44:57

-ALL:

-'Good!'

0:44:570:44:59

'It's good to see you.'

0:44:590:45:00

-Please make some noise for Devon.

-AUDIENCE:

-Whoo!

0:45:010:45:05

Hey, guys, my name's Devon. Um, I'm transgender.

0:45:080:45:11

I'm kind of new to Minnesota -

0:45:110:45:12

I just moved from Iowa about four months ago.

0:45:120:45:14

This is my first time actually sharing my piece with somebody.

0:45:140:45:17

Oh, man.

0:45:170:45:19

Please don't ask me why I'm way too into girls.

0:45:200:45:23

Please don't ask me why I hold back.

0:45:230:45:25

Please don't ask me why I always make my voice deeper

0:45:250:45:27

when I meet somebody new.

0:45:270:45:29

Please don't ask me why I'm constantly adjusting my clothes.

0:45:290:45:31

But ask me why I wear my heart on my sleeve.

0:45:310:45:33

Please don't ask me

0:45:330:45:35

why I always have to use the stall in the bathroom.

0:45:350:45:37

Ask me why I'm so accepting.

0:45:370:45:39

Please don't ask me why I have two names.

0:45:390:45:41

Ask me why I'm so strong-willed.

0:45:410:45:43

-AUDIENCE MEMBER:

-Whoo!

0:45:430:45:46

I think your... Your piece was so good. I really liked it.

0:45:490:45:51

-HE LAUGHS

-Thank you.

0:45:510:45:53

There's definitely some changes I could definitely do, and also,

0:45:530:45:56

to be honest with you, having you there made me a little bit nervous.

0:45:560:45:59

Why were you nervous cos I was there?

0:45:590:46:02

Cos I didn't know how you would react to...

0:46:020:46:05

To, you know, little Dev going up there with a big voice and like,

0:46:050:46:08

you know, uh, being passionate and really loud about things.

0:46:080:46:13

-But also, like, you're cute so...

-DEVON LAUGHS

0:46:130:46:16

You know, that's going to make anybody really nervous,

0:46:160:46:18

having a cute girl out in the crowd.

0:46:180:46:20

Do you think, maybe possibly, we could, like, go on a formal date?

0:46:200:46:24

-Yeah! I would really like that.

-Awesome.

0:46:240:46:26

Yeah.

0:46:260:46:28

I feel like I could tell Kelsie a little bit sooner

0:46:300:46:32

than I typically would tell somebody who's...

0:46:320:46:34

because knowing her only for a short amount of time,

0:46:340:46:37

she's really found interest in me

0:46:370:46:38

and a connection has definitely been made.

0:46:380:46:41

But I do feel kind of iffy about...

0:46:410:46:44

about how she feels and, um,

0:46:440:46:46

I feel like she definitely still has a lot of questions.

0:46:460:46:49

Claire has the first second date of her life.

0:46:510:46:54

But on her way out the door... a top-up.

0:46:560:46:59

It's good to take oestrogen right before a date cos...

0:47:030:47:06

..I think it does give me a confidence boost,

0:47:070:47:09

it makes me feel more feminine.

0:47:090:47:11

It's time for Claire to find out if Jason

0:47:150:47:17

is truly boyfriend material.

0:47:170:47:20

My mission is to...get Jason.

0:47:200:47:23

That's my mission.

0:47:230:47:25

And she's pulling out all the stops.

0:47:250:47:28

The last date we had, he smelt really good.

0:47:290:47:33

So I wanna, like, outdo him a little bit.

0:47:330:47:35

-How are you?

-Good, how are you?

0:47:380:47:40

-Good to see you.

-How are you?

0:47:400:47:41

Good! Come on in!

0:47:410:47:43

-I LOVE to eat.

-This is so good!

0:47:430:47:46

BOTH LAUGH

0:47:460:47:48

All right, you can pop open the oven

0:47:480:47:50

cos I'm covered in chicken juice.

0:47:500:47:52

OVEN BLEEPS

0:47:520:47:53

What about you, do you think people are attracted to?

0:47:530:47:56

Or what attracts people to you?

0:47:560:47:58

-There's more to me than just...

-Mm-hm.

0:47:580:48:00

..the outward appearance, you know?

0:48:000:48:02

And I've, like, endured a lot in my life.

0:48:020:48:05

Just, like, figuring out who I am.

0:48:050:48:09

I think if there was one thing

0:48:090:48:10

that I would want people to know about me,

0:48:100:48:12

it's...my journey.

0:48:120:48:15

Well, for a long time I just...

0:48:150:48:16

-..put myself down...

-Right.

0:48:170:48:19

..and now I'm accepting myself and who I am

0:48:190:48:22

and it's OK to be transgender.

0:48:220:48:24

Claire takes a moment to powder her nose and settle her nerves.

0:48:250:48:29

One - I don't want to put pressure on anything.

0:48:290:48:31

But two - I do want to see where I kind of stand with this.

0:48:310:48:36

He's a glass of...

0:48:360:48:38

..a very expensive wine, or whatever you want to call it,

0:48:400:48:44

but I've been drinking...

0:48:440:48:46

..Dr Pepper.

0:48:480:48:50

-Jason?

-SHE LAUGHS

0:48:510:48:53

I don't know how to ask you this question!

0:48:530:48:56

Um, you just ask me right out.

0:48:560:48:58

-How do you feel about me?

-How do I feel about you?

0:48:580:49:01

Um, I think that we have learned a lot from each other

0:49:010:49:05

because I'm still kind of finding myself.

0:49:050:49:07

What are you finding out?

0:49:070:49:09

I find out something new about myself every day!

0:49:090:49:11

Would you, like, ever consider yourself, like, being with me,

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on an emotional level

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and, like, romance level?

0:49:180:49:21

I don't think that the best way for me to support you right now

0:49:210:49:26

is as a romantic endeavour, or as a romantic partner,

0:49:260:49:29

I think the best way for me to support you right now is just,

0:49:290:49:33

is simply to support you.

0:49:330:49:35

Um, and I don't know that I feel comfortable

0:49:350:49:37

adding the aspect of romanticism.

0:49:370:49:40

I was just hoping like it could lead somewhere maybe.

0:49:400:49:45

I do appreciate that you told me in a nice way.

0:49:450:49:49

Not sort of being like, "Well, I don't like you!"

0:49:490:49:53

-Yeah.

-Yeah. Thank you for that.

0:49:550:49:57

Have a good night. Do be safe getting home, OK?

0:49:580:50:00

-I'll try.

-All right. We'll chat soon.

0:50:000:50:03

-OK, bye.

-Bye.

0:50:030:50:04

SHE SNIFFLES

0:50:130:50:15

Oh, gosh.

0:50:150:50:16

I don't know, I don't know what's wrong with me.

0:50:200:50:23

Going to be 21 and haven't even had, like...

0:50:230:50:26

..a relationship for, like, even a month!

0:50:280:50:31

I'm just getting to the point where I don't even want to try...any more.

0:50:310:50:35

Even if a guy comes up to me and says, "Oh, I want to be with you,"

0:50:350:50:38

I'm going to be, like, "You're kidding."

0:50:380:50:40

"Like, this is not going to work out. Cos you're lying."

0:50:420:50:46

-REPORTER:

-'It's the most unusual love story we've ever seen.

0:50:510:50:54

'America's first transgender teen couple

0:50:540:50:57

'openly dating and madly in love...'

0:50:570:51:00

One year after talking to the world's press about their surgery,

0:51:000:51:03

Arin and Katie are ready to share

0:51:030:51:05

the next chapter in their relationship.

0:51:050:51:08

They were a transgender couple

0:51:080:51:09

who knew exactly what the other had gone through,

0:51:090:51:12

but now they've broken up.

0:51:120:51:14

Katie has decided to break up with Arin.

0:51:140:51:18

I just wasn't happy with the relationship and, um,

0:51:180:51:20

I could see it was taking a toll on him, taking a toll on us,

0:51:200:51:24

and our friendships and my grades and his grades, and...

0:51:240:51:28

I just thought it was best if we split apart.

0:51:280:51:32

I broke his heart, I know, but, um, I did it for...our sake.

0:51:330:51:37

I've never been in a relationship besides her since I've been a man.

0:51:400:51:44

-REPORTER:

-'Transgendered or not,

0:51:440:51:45

'Arin was like any teenage boy who got dumped.'

0:51:450:51:49

I definitely reacted in the "guy way,"

0:51:490:51:51

or, you know, the typical man way.

0:51:510:51:52

I was upset and I punched things.

0:51:520:51:55

The community Arin and Katie built online was devastated too.

0:51:550:51:59

And I feel like in our own community,

0:51:590:52:01

we were looking up to Katie and Arin.

0:52:010:52:03

You know, a normal couple

0:52:030:52:05

who understood what they were going through

0:52:050:52:08

and who've stayed with each other for so long...

0:52:080:52:11

And it just sucks that they broke up,

0:52:110:52:13

you know, I'm really sad about it.

0:52:130:52:14

But Claire rallies the troops.

0:52:140:52:17

I think it's very important

0:52:170:52:19

that we all be here for Katie in her break-up

0:52:190:52:21

cos I know I would want someone to be there for me.

0:52:210:52:24

Katie felt one aspect in particular was missing from her relationship...

0:52:240:52:29

An aspect that was hard to talk about.

0:52:290:52:32

We didn't have an intimate life, really.

0:52:320:52:34

You know, it was just... And that was OK with me.

0:52:340:52:36

We talked about it, you know, we tried stuff.

0:52:370:52:42

But all in all, it wouldn't work out,

0:52:420:52:44

so eventually we were just like, "All right, who cares?

0:52:440:52:46

"That's not important, let's just have a good time,

0:52:460:52:48

"enjoy each other's company."

0:52:480:52:50

If you're dating me for sex, then I think you're in the wrong place.

0:52:510:52:54

-ARIN LAUGHS

-Definitely, you know,

0:52:540:52:56

you better go down the road cos you're not going to find that here.

0:52:560:52:59

I'm mean, that's... It's an important part of a relationship, but it's not all that.

0:52:590:53:02

You know, I... I thought it was kind of funny.

0:53:020:53:04

I was, like, "Oh, great!

0:53:040:53:06

"As soon as I get a vagina, I get a boyfriend without a penis.

0:53:060:53:09

-"Like, what?"

-MIMICS COMIC TONE:

-Womp, womp, womp.

0:53:090:53:12

Few people can relate to Arin's situation like Devon.

0:53:120:53:14

Following Arin and Katie's ending, and Katie having transitioned fully

0:53:160:53:21

and Arin still kind of being held back,

0:53:210:53:23

I think, me being the jealous type that I am,

0:53:230:53:26

it'd be very hard for me to have somebody else

0:53:260:53:29

who's a lot farther in transitioning than I am.

0:53:290:53:32

Despite the news about Arin and Katie's break up,

0:53:320:53:35

Devon still believes he can find romance.

0:53:350:53:38

I'm kind of like a hopeless romantic.

0:53:380:53:40

I get my hopes up high for a lot of things that I shouldn't,

0:53:400:53:42

and I like to keep them high, kind of hoping,

0:53:420:53:45

always hoping for the best.

0:53:450:53:46

He's ready to lay his heart on the line with Kelsie.

0:53:510:53:54

Hello!

0:53:540:53:55

-DEVON LAUGHS

-Hello!

0:53:550:53:57

-Those are for you.

-Oh, my gosh. Thank you!

0:53:590:54:01

Yeah!

0:54:010:54:03

You can pick the spot cos YOU'RE taking ME on the date!

0:54:030:54:06

I see, we'll just sit on top of the hill.

0:54:060:54:08

So, I was kind of nervous whether or not you would come today.

0:54:090:54:13

Um, because having said that I'm transgender,

0:54:130:54:16

it could change the way you look at me.

0:54:160:54:18

Not at all! Not at all. Nope. I don't know why it would. You know?

0:54:180:54:23

I mean, I see you as a guy and that's what you are.

0:54:230:54:27

So, Kelsie...

0:54:280:54:30

For some reason... you kind of stopped me in my tracks.

0:54:310:54:35

-(Stop!)

-DEVON LAUGHS

0:54:350:54:38

And I... I definitely think

0:54:380:54:40

there's more than just like a... like a friend connection.

0:54:400:54:43

Where, where kind of...

0:54:430:54:45

Where kind of would you want this to go?

0:54:450:54:47

I'm not exactly sure.

0:54:470:54:49

I mean, I'd like to see, like, where it goes.

0:54:490:54:51

-I mean, we just met, kind of thing.

-Mm-hm.

0:54:510:54:52

I think you're a really interesting person.

0:54:520:54:54

I'd like to get to know you a lot better.

0:54:540:54:57

I think the ultimate goal at the end of my life,

0:55:050:55:09

I would definitely want to find somebody that I'm in love with.

0:55:090:55:13

BOTH LAUGH

0:55:130:55:14

I think it would be lovely to eventually marry a woman

0:55:140:55:16

and carry on with our lives as normal people and being in love.

0:55:160:55:21

As Devon looks to the future,

0:55:210:55:23

Arin is trying not to dwell on the past.

0:55:230:55:25

The best way to cope, for me,

0:55:250:55:27

is just hanging out with my friends, having a good time,

0:55:270:55:29

working out, you know?

0:55:290:55:30

Keeping on the positive side of things.

0:55:300:55:33

He recognises how far he's come.

0:55:330:55:35

It's a very beautiful thing when you can see yourself transform

0:55:350:55:38

into something that you've always seen yourself in the mirror.

0:55:380:55:41

And despite his heartbreak, he and Katie are still close.

0:55:410:55:44

I feel like we're always just going to be friends

0:55:440:55:47

and I think we're a lot stronger because of it.

0:55:470:55:49

Transitioning with Katie has given me and her a very unique bond.

0:55:490:55:54

Katie is now 21 and Arin 19.

0:55:540:55:57

He's started uni and is determined to move on

0:55:580:56:00

and live his life to the full.

0:56:000:56:02

Arin and Katie's romance

0:56:090:56:10

continues to impact the growing transgender community...

0:56:100:56:13

..who will always see them as the golden couple.

0:56:150:56:17

It's just, like, what are the odds that two people that are transgender

0:56:170:56:22

and struggling with the same things

0:56:220:56:24

kind of find each other and fall in love?

0:56:240:56:27

I think it's very... that's reassuring.

0:56:270:56:29

I wish I could, you know, find something like that.

0:56:290:56:32

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