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CROWD: Vivent les Saintes Maries! | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Vive Sainte Sara! | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
THEY SING A HYMN | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
It's said that the first Gypsy who ever came to Europe | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
landed here in France. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Her name was Sarah. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
She was a servant of the two holy Marys | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
who were escaping from Palestine after the death of Jesus, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
and it was Sarah who first came ashore | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
and stole food and clothes for them. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
That's why several thousand Gypsies, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Juanita, this English Gypsy, among them, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
come every year from all over Europe on a pilgrimage | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
to Saintes-Maries, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
where, usually, you don't see many people, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
only the white horses and the wild bulls and the cowboys. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
THEY SHOUT IN FRENCH | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
COWBOYS SHOUT IN FRENCH | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
It was Juanita who told me the story of Sarah | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
as we came out here to watch the French cowboys | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
rounding up their bulls for a contest. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
She also told me why the Camargue, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
which this strange marshy land is called, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
is such a right place for the Gypsies to come to. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
It's mainly because the black bulls and white horses | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
make you think of the Gypsies, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
who were often horse dealers in the old days. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
In fact, Juanita still is one. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
But the Camargue is also a good meeting place for them | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
because of the atmosphere, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
which seems to fit, at least, my idea of what the Gypsies are like - | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
sinister, lonely, hard to understand. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
They seem to belong to another continent - | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
perhaps Africa, as people thought | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
when they started travelling in Europe 500 years ago, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
or perhaps India. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
If you ask any question about the Gypsies, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
the answer is always "perhaps". | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
I remember that as a child | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
I was brought up to be frightened of them - | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
"The Gypsies will come and take you," | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
people said, if I was naughty - | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
and I was told that they didn't only take children, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
but they stole things, they told lies, they were witches, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
they were cannibals - and they were filthy, too. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
So whenever I saw them in fairs in Sweden | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
looking so dark and terrifying | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I used to run as fast as I possibly could. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
But I was always sorry I did, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
because, whatever my mother said about them, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
they were romantic, as well, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
and I still don't know if it's true what people said about them. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
The other day, Juanita and I went to one of the bull games | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
they have down here. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
A player has to take a ribbon from between the bull's horns. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
The Gypsies don't take part in this contest, but they do watch it. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
And to start things off in Saintes-Maries today, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
the French have another game. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
FANFARE | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
THEY PLAY A MARCH | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
BELLS CHIME | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
The camp stretches all along the seafront, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
and Juanita and I were lucky to find a place for our caravan. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
We didn't have a proper Gypsy one, but then, nor did the others. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
5,000 Gypsies, but only one painted caravan and one horse in the place. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:27 | |
No money in horses now, so they deal in old cars, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
which they often live in while waiting for a buyer. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Our next-door neighbours were fairground people, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
travelling France with a few stalls. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
These old women had several sons, and lots of grandchildren. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
How did they manage? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
"Ah," they said, "we love children - | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
"and anyway, they grow up into men | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
"who look after us and keep away the bad luck." | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
They hadn't much space, they were all on top of each other. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
They always had the problem of deciding where to go next, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and never knowing where they would find money to feed all the family - | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
but they think that nothing very serious can happen to them | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
as long as the family sticks closely together. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Even with all their work, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
their struggle to survive comfortably | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
in a world that isn't too friendly towards Gypsies, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
they feel they're lucky, and they say so. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I asked this old woman | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
why she liked such an uncertain sort of life. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
"Liberty," she said. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
She didn't know where she was going, or where she had come from. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Oh, yes, her father had sold horses in Spain, Italy, North Africa, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
but before that there was no past. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
She knew nothing of India or Egypt - | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
but if pride and independence were anything to go by, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
you could see that she belonged to the same race | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
as those Lords Of Little Egypt, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
as the Gypsies called themselves when they first came to Europe. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Those Gypsies had pretended they were noble pilgrims from the east, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
and they were welcomed everywhere. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
Now the story is different. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
They have to work for a living. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
The families stared into each other's camps, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
but they didn't mix much at first, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
until the eve of the procession | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
when they began to turn towards the church | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
where the statue of Sarah stands in the crypt. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
BELLS CHIME | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
Some Gypsies put their trust very deeply in God, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and more primitive and hot-blooded ones like the Spanish | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
have just a superstitious feeling | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
that Sarah can do something for them - | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
bring them a son, for instance - | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
and they also come to light a candle | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
and pin some object, like a photograph, to her gown. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Others don't bother at all. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
They're here to do business, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
and stay clear of the small altars that are set up, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
in little nooks between the caravans. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Still more and more Gypsies - | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
even at the last moment, they're flocking into Saintes-Maries. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
Meanwhile, Juanita and I went to visit some people we'd met - | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
a family which lived around France, but were actually Russian Gypsies. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
The father had once been to Liverpool, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
and remembered two words of English - | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
"Good morning." | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
The streets were getting crowded, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
and people eating outside were chattering even faster than usual. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Gypsies always have plenty to say to each other - | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and we had plenty to ask our Russian friends, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
though we still didn't know how far we'd get, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
as Juanita only knows English Romani. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
ALL CHATTER IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
We had seen before that the different families | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
didn't always get on well together. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Now we were finding that they didn't always understand | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
each other's dialect of Romani - | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
and I couldn't help thinking | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
that if they didn't really understand or trust one another, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
how could those of us who weren't Gypsies ever hope to? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
Those Russians, they were very keen on talking, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and it wouldn't have gone half as well if it hadn't been for Juanita. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
If they are not among their own people, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
the Gypsies can be very reserved. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Last year in the far north of Sweden, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
I met some Gypsies and I mentioned Saintes-Maries to them. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
They had no chance of going there - | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
it was too far away, and they have no money - | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
but, for a moment, they got so excited about it | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
that they had no resistance to me any more, and they became friends. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
And every year, in Europe, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
the Gypsies come to this far corner of France | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
if they possibly can. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Why, for instance, does Juanita want to come? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Because it's the one place where the Gypsies really seem to belong, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
and it's good to be able to go and meet them there - | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and, personally, I feel more at home in the Camargue | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
than in many parts of England. Mm. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
But there aren't any other English Gypsies here? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
No, that's because most of them either don't know about it, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
or if they did, they couldn't get a passport, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
because they've got no birth records. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
You've got to have a record before you can get a passport. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
And many of them couldn't afford the journey, anyway. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
But I wish they could come, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
because there's already a great feeling of gaiety here, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
even if things don't really start until tomorrow. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
COCK CROWS | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
And all through the morning, the day of the procession, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I was finding out what they were like - or trying to. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Perhaps it was the holiday feeling, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
perhaps the Gypsies were all getting used to each other by now, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
but this morning, the families seemed to be on much better terms. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
And it was the children who made friends first. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
They learn to look after themselves very early in life. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
I asked if school was compulsory for them. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
"Oh, yes," they said. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
And did they enjoy school? | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
They'd never been, they replied. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
And their parents were exchanging news about old acquaintances, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
travelling in other countries | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
who hadn't been able to get to Saintes-Maries this year. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
It was worth sending a message to them, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
even if it might not be delivered for several months. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
SHE CRIES | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
DOGS BARK | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
They all seemed to be very easy-going, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
but, in fact, you never quite know - they're unpredictable, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
one minute lying quietly round the campfire, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
the next, full of life, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
suddenly treating you with great friendliness, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
then leaving you out in the cold. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
And even among themselves, when they are excited, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
you don't know whether they're going to have a fight | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
or throw their arms around each other | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
or just laugh. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
But what is certain, they keep very clean and they work very hard, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
even on a holiday like this. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
The camp was still full of them, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
though some had by now drifted off to the procession, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
which was to take the image of Sarah from the church, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
down to the sea where she originally landed. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
MAN WHISTLES | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
CHATTERING IN ROMANI | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
CROWD: Vivent les Saintes Maries! | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Vive Sainte Sara! | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
ALL SING | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Still, not all of them had joined in - | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
they were still working, as usual, in the camp, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
getting themselves ready for the evening | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
and not paying too much attention to the noise of the procession. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
ALL SING | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
BAND PLAYS A MARCH | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
ALL SING | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Like many of them, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
this fortune-teller didn't bother with the procession. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
"Oh, it's just a walk to the sea and back," she said, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
"but just wait and see. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
"Later, when the fair opens and the dancing begins, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
"that's different. That's for everyone." | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
ALL CHATTER IN FRENCH | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
WOMAN SINGS | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
THEY PLAY FLAMENCO MUSIC | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
FRENCH SONG PLAYS | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
HE CALLS IN FRENCH | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
SHE SINGS ALONG IN FRENCH | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
THEY PLAY FLAMENCO MUSIC | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
HE PLAYS FLAMENCO | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
THEY PLAY FLAMENCO MUSIC | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
SHE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
MAN SINGS | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
LAUGHTER AND CHATTER | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
Then suddenly, the next day, they were packing, all at once. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Many of them had said they would definitely be staying a few days, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
but somehow the word had gone round, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
and now they were all on the move. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Last night, in the cafes, on the streets, to the music, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
all of the families who had been a bit suspicious of each other | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
had become friends, just for a day. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Now, they were going their separate ways. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
One of them had said to me, "It may be lonely sometimes, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
"not to belong to a place, but we have a family and we are free." | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
Freedom. It always came back to that. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Put in the prisons during the war, they lost that freedom completely... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
but they gained a friend, this priest. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
The Gypsies helped him when he was a chaplain in a concentration camp. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
HE SPEAKS IN FRENCH | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
In 1948, he was officially asked to help the Gypsies | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
by becoming their priest. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
He believes that the church can do much | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
to give them better conditions in France - | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
camps to live in, as in Holland, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
concrete foundations for their caravans, jobs. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
There were no Dutch Gypsies here. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
Perhaps they're already too set in their ways. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
He likes the Gypsies because they are straightforward | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
and really honest - | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
even if they do pick things up which people leave lying about. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
With a mobile chapel in a caravan, he follows them wherever they go, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
Some to village fairs in the mountains, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
others to begging in the cities, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
some trekking from town to town | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
selling copperware or mending furniture. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Others to try their luck in new countries - | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Belgium perhaps, or Italy. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Somewhere new. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
FLAMENCO PLAYS | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
MAN: Ole! | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
I talked quite a lot to that Gypsy woman | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
who in the camp was called | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
"the fortune-teller with the golden teeth". | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I found out that she'd been travelling in Europe, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
in Scandinavia, 30 years ago, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
and she still spoke very good Swedish - | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
and she told me one thing that I will always remember. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
It made me see that the Gypsies just don't think that our way of life | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
is good enough for them. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
She also told me that she was living in Marseilles with her family | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
and, obviously being so well off | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
with her solid gold rings and bracelets on her arms, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
I asked her if they had a house there. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
She gave me a sort of puzzled look and then she started laughing. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
SHE REPEATS THE PHRASE | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
By which she meant that you begin dying | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
when you live in one house or stay in one place for too long. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
Perhaps you do. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
CICADAS CHIRRUP | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 |