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This is the image of the new father,

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used by the advertising industry in the '90s

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to sell the modern family lifestyle.

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It reflects a major shift in men's attitude towards

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their children in the last 50 years, and a sea change in the kind of dad

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they aspire to be.

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The physical and emotional intimacy

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between father and child has never been more intense.

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Suddenly you're in there right in the middle with

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someone that you just love to bits.

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We just had a huge amount of fun together - this little, this little

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person who was just evolving before my eyes.

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And I was with her sort of all day long, every day.

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Never had expectations

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of the good father been so high, but at the same time, never had dads

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felt so vulnerable, so powerless and so excluded from family life.

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As divorce spiralled, the legal system marginalised fathers,

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making it difficult for them to stay close to their children.

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They became lost in a labyrinth of bureaucracy and court orders.

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Some took to the streets, bewildered by changes that seemed to be

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making them redundant.

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What sort of person

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is going to say, "Actually you know what, we don't need fathers"?

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What sort of person is going to say,

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"Well, we're going to put you through eight years,

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"or ten years of going through the family justice system"?

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Two parents are better than one, surely to God that's what we

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believe in as a country, surely that's what's best for children.

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But when families split up, it was still the mother rather than

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the father who was assumed to be the natural and best parent.

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Fatherhood is not really looked upon

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with the same sort of strength as motherhood.

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This weird concept that somehow mothers are closer to their children,

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it's something that I think has become a self-fulfilling prophecy,

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where we've said it so often that we not only believe it, we now enact it

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and we now have a society where it's the norm.

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In almost every home in Britain, the relationship between the modern

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father and his children was being redefined.

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50 years of sexual liberation and feminism had changed the rules.

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The hands-on modern dad was very different to the traditional

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father figure of the past. He was more intimate, yet more insecure.

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This is the story of the difficult birth of the new father.

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This is how it used to be.

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-Keep your eyes shut.

-I am darling, tight shut.

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In the '50s dream of married life, the husband had a clear role

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-as provider and protector in his new home.

-Now open them.

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-Oh, is this ours?

-Like it?

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Oh, put me down, I want to look.

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But this dream of suburban family life

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had far less appeal to the young generation of the '60s.

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Oh, darling, it's heavenly.

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I can't believe it's all true.

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Some who'd grown up in solidly middle class homes

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saw suburbia as a trap and wanted to break free from all convention

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to discover who they really were.

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One of them was public school boy Rashid.

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I always felt very clearly the ridiculousness

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of the moral code by which we lived. It was stultifying, it was rigid.

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I perceived myself at the age of 20 as a stuffed shirt.

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I didn't...

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I couldn't say or think anything that hadn't been put into me by

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school, my parents, my family, you know that I...

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I felt myself as an automaton in some way.

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The young men who would become the next generation of fathers

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were embracing the values of the '60s sexual revolution,

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with its explosion of hedonistic music and fashion.

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First to go were the taboos on sex before marriage, once regarded

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as essential in encouraging couples to marry and stay together for life.

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I ended up jumping into bed with the first woman who would have me,

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really, who was herself

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a product of that same society.

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So already you know it's a totally unsustainable relationship.

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To begin with, the sexual freedom was liberating.

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It was made possible by the invention and widespread use

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of the contraceptive pill.

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But there were still many unplanned pregnancies.

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Young rebels like Rashid soon became young husbands and fathers.

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For a while, actually, it was wonderful, maximum sexual temptation

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with maximum opportunity to

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express it.

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Very soon she got pregnant and I was very excited cos I've always

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loved kids, I've always, always been able to relate easily to kids.

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The swinging sixties is a decade that's become legendary

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for its sexual daring and extra-marital affairs.

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Of course there was nothing new

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about adultery, but the permissive atmosphere encouraged young people

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to take a more open and honest attitude to sexual adventures.

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When the secret came out, however, the feelings of anger, jealousy and

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rejection that were unleashed could destroy any relationship.

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Would you come inside now, please.

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What was once a lifetime commitment was ending in divorce

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and the trickle of divorce cases became a flood after the 1969

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Divorce Reform Act made it much easier for a couple to split up.

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And marriage according to the law of

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this country is the union of one man with one woman.

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But the new divorce laws

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also helped turn the marriage break-up into a battleground.

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One glamorous '60s marriage which ended in a bitter divorce battle

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was that of playwright Terence Frisby.

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She went to see a divorce lawyer.

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I said, "Don't go, we don't want a lawyer, let's just try and sort

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"this out between us. You've been unfaithful, I've been unfaithful.

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"What's it matter, the lives we've been living,

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"what big surprise is that?"

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And she sort of concurred with that, but, this man, I'm pretty sure now in

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retrospect he fancied her and he was determined to get her into

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bed if he could, and he made sure that no reconciliation occurred.

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Terence was one of the '60s fathers who discovered how the

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new divorce laws put men in a vulnerable position when it came

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to access to their children.

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He had to fight hard to see his young son, Dominic.

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I turned up at my mother-in-law's house and knocked on the door

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to see Dominic.

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And no-one was at home.

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And I just stood on the doorstep on this summer's afternoon,

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I thought I was going to see my son for the first time for months

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and, then afterwards an apology was made, "Oh, she wasn't well, sorry."

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Well, if she wasn't well, where was she?

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She wasn't at home,

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and so even then every little trick and nuance was used

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to try and twist the knife and I can remember well, I can remember

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the pain of it, of course I can, but I remember the rage I felt about it.

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I thought it was disgusting that the courts

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should even let it happen and my own lawyers just shrugged and said,

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"Oh, well, that's what the courts do."

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Meanwhile, the big influx of fathers

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who came to Britain as economic migrants from New Commonwealth

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countries like India and Pakistan, also felt the pain of separation

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from their children but for very different reasons.

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Laeeq Khan arrived in Bradford from Pakistan in 1967.

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His aim was to work hard

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to help create a new and better life for the family he'd left behind.

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It was a very big decision, I didn't want to do that,

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because that would mean leaving Farhat and two boys.

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But I had to take it because I was so ashamed of my earnings

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in Pakistan, not to be able to afford what they want and, in future,

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what they will expect from me.

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Laeeq was a proud breadwinner whose mission, like many other

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post-war immigrants, was to provide for his wife and children.

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By saving hard, he hoped one day to be able to afford to bring them over

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to Britain so they could all live together again.

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Though this meant he had to live

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apart from his wife, Farhat, and his children for years,

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there was no question about his loyalty and devotion.

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There was no way that I could send them a lot of money which

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I didn't have, so the only

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thing which I thought I should do is to keep writing to Farhat,

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and, so that she at least have link with me every day,

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or almost every day.

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So I wrote...

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Before I used to go to sleep, I always had a letter

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beside me,

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in the envelope.

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Stamped, so that when I get up in the morning, on my way

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I'd post that letter to Farhat.

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But a very different dream was capturing the imagination

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of the sex, drugs and rock'n'roll generation in Britain.

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This was the hippy ideal

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of escaping the rat race and living a more simple life on the land.

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Amongst the men inspired by this dream was Rashid.

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He split up with his first wife

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and, in 1970, moved to Wales with his new family.

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I've always felt myself as a country person and so we just

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decided, Nicky and I, to go and leave London, buy a little farm.

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Suddenly we were in this totally new life, we had to learn everything

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and it was wonderful being

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close to nature, growing our own food, shepherding our own sheep,

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taking care of them, lambing time, and in amongst that,

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having our own second son. Joseph was born upstairs

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in the bedroom with this

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wonderful view that overlooked the mountains of Wales,

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the Brecon Beacons, the Black Mountains,

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all the way up to Shropshire.

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Beautiful, beautiful place we lived in, we were in paradise.

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Paradise for Terence Frisby

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was simply being able to see his son, Dominic.

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His legal battle with his ex-wife to get access to him continued.

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This made the time they were able to spend together

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all the more precious.

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One of the best things that happened when he was a kid was swimming.

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I took him swimming twice a week.

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That was when I got to see him, twice a week when he was five or something.

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And then I taught him to swim at a very young age and he really,

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he embraced the water as only kids can.

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But these joyful moments were always cut short by painful handovers

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that, for Terence, still evoke images of the Cold War.

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Coming and picking him up was ghastly and taking him back was worse.

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And I used to call it the Berlin Wall handover.

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You remember in those days, in the Cold War, the spies and things

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that were handed over at Checkpoint Charlie or somewhere in Berlin?

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Anyway, I always called it the Berlin Wall handover and I used to turn up.

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Sometimes Dominic would be running up and down outside the house,

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when he was a bit older, with his swimming togs under his arm,

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waiting and so on. And coming round the corner...

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And you see it gets me even now, seeing him there was quite a sight.

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The fathers who'd left their families

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in New Commonwealth countries to make a new home for them in Britain,

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knew the agony of being apart from their loved ones all too well.

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In 1974,

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after seven years of separation, Laeeq Khan's wife and three children

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set out from their home town in Pakistan to join him in Bradford.

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Their extraordinary journey and reunion were filmed by Panorama.

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Waiting for them to arrive at Heathrow Airport was Laeeq.

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The prohibitive cost of long distance air travel had meant that

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he had not been able to afford to visit his wife and children.

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Now they were about to be reunited forever.

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I went to Heathrow airport.

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And she...

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Here she comes with the children

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and they're very, very nice children,

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very, very nice.

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They came running...

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..and...

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cling to me.

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And...

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they were very excited.

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And I was very excited when I saw Farhat and the children.

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I had to hold my emotions.

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I wanted to kiss her, but I couldn't.

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But she, she knew that I loved her

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and the boys came round to me and I hugged them.

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Laeeq's Muslim cultural background forbade any public display of

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the deep emotions he felt.

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He couldn't wait to take his family back to Bradford to

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the new home he'd bought for them.

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Then I brought them home.

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I was very proud...

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to bring them in my house.

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They waited seven years

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..and I was very proud to be Dad then.

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Laeeq trained to be a television engineer so he could earn good money

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and provide for the needs of his family in a way that had

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been impossible in Pakistan.

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He embodied the best values of the traditional father.

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The boys were waiting eagerly for me to come home,

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and when I opened the door they were behind the door.

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THEY SHOUT EXCITEDLY

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You know, and they, they all round me,

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and they loved me, you know, as if there is nothing...

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..nobody is more important in their life...

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..then their dad.

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However, some British families were giving up on traditional notions

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of dad altogether.

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In an extraordinary piece of reverse migration,

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they rejected the materialistic world of the west

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and travelled east looking for spiritual and sexual enlightenment.

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In 1977, Rashid and his family gave up their small farm to start afresh

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in an ashram in Poona.

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They joined the Orange People becoming disciples of the Indian

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mystic Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh who christened them all with new names.

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This is where Rashid, formerly called Patrick, got his new name.

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For me, a lot

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of that time in Poona

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was to do with letting go of a lot of our conditionings to do with mine.

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So we didn't have any possessions, we didn't want any possessions,

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we didn't need it. OK, I've got a record player.

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Bhagwan's followers tried

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to free their minds from all ideas of western convention.

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Open and loving relationships

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were regarded as the key to enlightenment.

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But they soon found it wasn't that easy.

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In a sense I was sort of letting go of my wife, my son,

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and, by that reverse logic I was in a way expecting that...

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..I could be with my girlfriend, with a girlfriend,

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with my son there, and it wasn't

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a big issue for him that she wasn't my mummy.

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In fact, it didn't work like that.

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But I didn't really recognise clearly

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how deep the old thing is, you know.

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that this is my wife and my son and my mother.

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How deep these are or even,

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that they are hardwired into us and that we'll always have that.

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The emotional importance of family ties proved stronger

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than Rashid had imagined.

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Although he remained a loyal disciple of Bhagwan,

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his wife soon left him and returned to England with the children.

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At some level, I always felt that the relationship

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with Nicky was ongoing, that we were still together although

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we had to go different ways to do it.

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And, yeah, I lived celibately for...

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..really until I got a dear John letter from her

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saying, actually, she's now with Johnny and...

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..it's all, it's all over between us.

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And for me that was painful, it was very painful.

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But yet living in that commune, which is incredibly emotionally supportive,

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I was sort of OK.

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I went through my stuff.

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Rashid's personal quest would result in a painful

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separation from his children that would last for many years.

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However for Terence Frisby, the separation from his son Dominic was

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so devastating, in 1974 he helped set up the group Families Need

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Fathers, which campaigned for equal parenting rights in divorce cases.

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He and Dominic, seen here playing in the back garden, were featured

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in this BBC Open Door programme.

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Families Need Fathers is concerned with equal parenting.

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Every year an increasing number of marriages collapse.

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The chances of you being in a divorce as either parent

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or child is now nearly 2 to 1 on.

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It's a sobering thought, isn't it?

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Suddenly we had an epidemic of men deprived of their children

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because of divorce and I don't think that has ever happened before.

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Divorce before the '60s was very much a middle

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and upper middle class affair, wasn't it?

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And chaps were much more buttoned up then, and the boys might have

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gone to public schools anyway.

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But suddenly, there was a whole generation of men

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who were being deprived of their children, and for the first time

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we heard this murmur coming up from underneath somewhere, that,

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it's not fair, which it wasn't.

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Sorry to say something so banal, but there you are.

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And, I think Families Need Fathers gave a voice to that, very much so,

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and I heard so many stories in their walk-in talk-ins of ghastlinesses.

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It was very good that people could come and hear it was happening

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to other people because, as always in these things,

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it's like Alcoholics Anonymous and all of that, isn't it?

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it's jolly good to find that you're

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not alone in the world in this thing and you're, you're not some madman.

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In the 1970s and '80s, the influence of feminism put further pressure on

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the traditional family based on marriage for life

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in which the mother stayed at home and the father went out to work.

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It was hugely influential in persuading the younger generation

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that housework was demeaning

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and there should be a more equal relationship between men and women.

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Women now wanted a career as well as a family, just like their husbands.

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The ideals of feminism were embraced by many men too, who

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believed that becoming more involved in bringing up their children would

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also enrich their lives.

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Nevertheless, the new responsibilities that

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they knew they would have to take on made some young men more uncertain

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about becoming a father.

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Charlie Rice became a dad in 1975, when he was 24.

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Julia kept on saying, she wanted to become a mum, she wanted to,

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and I just all the time thought, oh, no, I'm too young

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for this, I'm still a kid myself.

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Anyway, she came home one day, said I've been to the doctor,

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the doctor said I'm pregnant. My first thought was where can I run to?

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It was, I really thought, no way can I do this, I am not old

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enough to look after myself properly, let alone look after another child.

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Can I have one more push for the rest of the baby.

0:21:520:21:55

The new fathers of the seventies were encouraged to be present

0:21:550:21:59

at the birth of their baby as a way of bonding them together

0:21:590:22:02

from the very beginning. For Charlie it was a life changing moment.

0:22:020:22:07

The making of me really,

0:22:070:22:10

was to see the birth of my daughter, it really was. It changed me

0:22:100:22:13

and I know people talk about bonding and all this kind of stuff.

0:22:130:22:17

I suddenly grew up, I did.

0:22:170:22:19

To see this vulnerable little being coming out, her little head and then

0:22:190:22:25

slowly and slowly and then her body just slithered out.

0:22:250:22:28

It changed me completely.

0:22:300:22:32

There was this being who was just so needy of me, she did, she needed me,

0:22:320:22:38

and I knew that I was there to give and provide and nurture

0:22:380:22:43

for this baby.

0:22:430:22:45

Charlie took to being a new father with great passion.

0:22:450:22:48

It was more difficult than he ever imagined, but worth it.

0:22:480:22:52

I was busy, sterilising bottles, washing nappies, feeding, because

0:22:520:22:58

Bronnie went onto the bottle when she was three months old

0:22:580:23:02

because her mum went off to a women's conference up in Manchester for

0:23:020:23:06

International Women's Day and so I had her for the weekend, completely,

0:23:060:23:13

you know, dependent upon me.

0:23:130:23:16

With more women resisting the role of full-time housewives,

0:23:160:23:19

'70s and '80s fathers became more involved in housework

0:23:190:23:23

and childcare than ever before.

0:23:230:23:25

Dads from all social classes began

0:23:250:23:28

to play a more important role in looking after their children.

0:23:280:23:31

The life partner that women were

0:23:360:23:38

looking for was no longer necessarily the man with

0:23:380:23:40

good career prospects that their father would want them to marry.

0:23:400:23:44

The old stereotypes were breaking down.

0:23:440:23:47

Linda Shanson chose Balou, a blind Indian sitar player

0:23:470:23:52

and street musician she met in 1982.

0:23:520:23:55

When I was in Paris I fell madly in love

0:23:550:24:00

with Balou,

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and I'd only known him a month and I was completely besotted with him,

0:24:020:24:07

and I thought that my father would be equally besotted with him

0:24:070:24:11

and the idea that we were going to get married.

0:24:110:24:13

And so, I brought Balou to London

0:24:130:24:17

to meet him and the list of attributes that my father

0:24:170:24:21

would have wanted for his daughter, I sort of crossed them all out. So, A,

0:24:210:24:28

my would-be husband wasn't Jewish.

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B, my would-be husband wasn't white, C, my would-be husband wasn't rich

0:24:320:24:40

and D, my would-be husband was completely blind.

0:24:400:24:44

And to me this was something to celebrate, but my poor father

0:24:440:24:50

was in a state of shock really.

0:24:500:24:51

By the eighties, some of the stereotypical ideas of masculinity

0:24:530:24:57

were fast becoming the stuff of parody.

0:24:570:25:00

But some of the old ideas

0:25:000:25:02

of what it meant to be a real man remained deeply embedded.

0:25:020:25:06

One of them was virility and to be able to father your own children.

0:25:060:25:11

So to discover you were infertile could still undermine any man.

0:25:110:25:16

Walter and Olivia Merricks desperately wanted a baby.

0:25:160:25:20

After all tests on Olivia and then tests on me,

0:25:200:25:25

it was discovered that I'm infertile.

0:25:250:25:29

Of course, being told that something that you expected to be able to do,

0:25:290:25:34

as a man, and that you

0:25:340:25:37

now just can't do,

0:25:370:25:40

is, there's a heavy sense of something that you're gonna

0:25:400:25:48

have to grieve about.

0:25:480:25:50

It's like a bereavement, something really that's part of you has died

0:25:510:25:59

and, I guess I felt like that.

0:25:590:26:03

However, the grief turned to joy when his son was born.

0:26:030:26:08

He was the first of two children

0:26:080:26:10

Walter and his wife had using donor insemination.

0:26:100:26:14

Though Walter wasn't the birth father, the love he felt for his

0:26:140:26:18

children couldn't have been greater.

0:26:180:26:20

The first thing that happens, you know,

0:26:210:26:24

people come round, look at the baby,

0:26:240:26:26

"Doesn't he look like you?"

0:26:270:26:29

And that's what people say when they look at babies.

0:26:310:26:35

Actually people we'd told still went on about this sort of thing.

0:26:390:26:45

They knew perfectly well it could not

0:26:450:26:47

look like me, and I sort of had to joke about it.

0:26:470:26:49

I loved being a dad, I loved it,

0:26:510:26:54

you don't have time to mope or think about any of these other things.

0:26:540:26:57

You're taken over by the, by just

0:26:570:27:01

the natural human love for a baby.

0:27:010:27:06

And I was good with babies, I still am good with babies.

0:27:080:27:12

Yet in '80s Britain there were still men who embraced

0:27:130:27:16

the centuries old values of fatherhood,

0:27:160:27:18

none more so than the coal miner.

0:27:180:27:21

He was the male breadwinner who for generations had risked his life

0:27:210:27:24

to feed and clothe his family.

0:27:240:27:26

It was a heroic role still taken seriously by the miners here

0:27:260:27:30

in Mardy Deep Pit in South Wales.

0:27:300:27:32

But even here the men also aspired to be a new kind of hands-on father.

0:27:320:27:39

Brynn Davies was dedicated to looking after his four children,

0:27:390:27:42

two of his own and two from his wife's first marriage.

0:27:420:27:46

And I've seen the two of the boys here getting born and labour,

0:27:460:27:51

she had a bit of a bad time on one of them and, when you hear her

0:27:510:27:56

and you see her like that it's emotional,

0:27:560:27:59

to see the baby come out then.

0:27:590:28:01

And, what they all say is it,

0:28:010:28:03

all babies are beautiful. God, I didn't think that at all!

0:28:030:28:08

God, they was ugly,

0:28:080:28:10

with all the muck and stuff like

0:28:100:28:12

that around them, but yeah they was, to put the baby in your arms then is,

0:28:120:28:17

God, it's life.

0:28:170:28:19

You think you can fly, I think.

0:28:190:28:21

is you feel so light on your feet and so, God, so proud.

0:28:210:28:25

When they was a couple of months older, it was a bit difficult to

0:28:250:28:28

get into first as they're so small you're afraid you're gonna drop them.

0:28:280:28:32

But yeah, I fed them

0:28:320:28:36

and took them to bed, got up in the mornings to them when they cried,

0:28:360:28:39

done my little bit with that.

0:28:390:28:41

Getting up then, you're getting up six o'clock, 5.30 for work,

0:28:470:28:50

God, you're head is in the shed.

0:28:500:28:53

But yeah, that's something that you've gotta do for them.

0:28:530:28:56

But the traditional working class family was changing fast,

0:28:590:29:04

a change closely tied to the decline of the manufacturing industries that

0:29:040:29:07

had supported the male breadwinner.

0:29:070:29:10

In place of the old nuclear family came the rise

0:29:110:29:15

of the single parent family.

0:29:150:29:17

There were over a million of them, some headed by lone fathers.

0:29:170:29:21

This new reality was often ignored or frowned upon.

0:29:210:29:24

When Charlie Rice's wife, Julia, died, he became a single parent

0:29:270:29:31

bringing up his daughter, Bronnie, and his adopted daughter, Ellie.

0:29:310:29:36

Bronnie had an accident. She had to have some surgery on her ankle.

0:29:360:29:41

This was immediately after Julia had died.

0:29:410:29:44

There was I with the consultant in a little hospital room,

0:29:440:29:49

so there was him, my daughter and me.

0:29:490:29:52

And he was doing some plastic surgery on her ankle.

0:29:520:29:55

She had short hair, but she had earrings in either side,

0:29:550:29:59

she was wearing a track suit cos that was much

0:29:590:30:01

more practical given the fact that she had a big bandage on her ankle.

0:30:010:30:05

He said to her, you can go home and tell

0:30:050:30:07

your mum what a brave boy you are.

0:30:070:30:11

How could he, how could he?

0:30:110:30:13

How could that person do that, act so ignorantly to that poor child,

0:30:130:30:21

who'd just been brave?

0:30:210:30:22

He didn't know whether she was a boy or a girl, and I did not exist.

0:30:220:30:29

How could he do it and her mother had just died?

0:30:290:30:33

I said to him very calmly, just what I said to you.

0:30:330:30:37

Her mum died three weeks ago.

0:30:370:30:39

I said in future you only deal with the adult and the

0:30:390:30:43

child that you have in front of you.

0:30:430:30:46

The new families displayed a refreshing openness and honesty.

0:30:460:30:50

There were to be no family secrets, however painful,

0:30:500:30:53

for Walter Merricks.

0:30:530:30:54

Gradually, when they were really quite young, we told them,

0:30:560:30:59

how they were conceived.

0:30:590:31:01

It's really only when they get to about seven or eight that

0:31:010:31:05

they begin to, they can begin to put

0:31:050:31:10

this information in some kind of context and begin to say,

0:31:100:31:14

ah, so does that mean that...? Oh, I see yes, yeah, yeah.

0:31:140:31:19

But by that time the knowledge has been part of their life

0:31:210:31:26

and part of what they, what they know

0:31:260:31:29

and, if you ask my kids now,

0:31:290:31:32

when they were first told, they just can't remember.

0:31:320:31:37

It has just been always part of their life, there was never a moment when

0:31:370:31:41

we sat down with them as it were and there was some kind of bolt from the

0:31:410:31:46

blue to say, we've got something, some awful news to tell you.

0:31:460:31:50

The rise of the gay liberation movement from the seventies onwards

0:31:530:31:56

continued to question conventional ideas about men and women,

0:31:560:32:00

just as the feminist movement had done before it.

0:32:000:32:03

The idea of a gay man being a father still aroused much suspicion

0:32:030:32:07

and hostility, made even greater by the new homophobia that arose from

0:32:070:32:11

the AIDS crisis in the eighties.

0:32:110:32:14

One of those who became aware of the true nature of his sexuality at this

0:32:140:32:18

time was single parent Charlie Rice.

0:32:180:32:21

He came out, but was careful to only reveal his gay identity

0:32:210:32:26

to his close friends and family.

0:32:260:32:29

One of the fears I've had about being a gay dad was that people would take

0:32:290:32:33

my children from me, because I was gay, purely for that reason.

0:32:330:32:39

And so I always made it a big thing that I was not going to

0:32:390:32:43

be out there that much.

0:32:430:32:45

They knew that I was gay

0:32:450:32:48

and their friends would know I was gay if they wanted them to know.

0:32:480:32:51

They used it as a cache when

0:32:510:32:53

they were at secondary school. They did, they loved it.

0:32:530:32:56

But I was never overly demonstrative sexually in front of them, because

0:32:560:33:02

it wasn't quite right it didn't seem.

0:33:020:33:04

But one night I was with this other chap and I was having a snog

0:33:040:33:08

on the front doorstep and Ellie came home with her boyfriend and I

0:33:080:33:13

just fell through the door laughing in the end because it's not something

0:33:130:33:17

I wanted to happen at all, at all.

0:33:170:33:19

Under the Thatcher government of the '80s,

0:33:200:33:23

the industrial landscape of Britain

0:33:230:33:25

was transformed out of all recognition.

0:33:250:33:27

Traditional industries like coal,

0:33:270:33:29

steel and shipbuilding were decimated

0:33:290:33:32

and whole working class communities vanished in just a few years.

0:33:320:33:36

The proud working class father now faced mass unemployment.

0:33:360:33:42

The most symbolic defeat of all was that of the miners.

0:33:420:33:45

In 1985, the men of Mardy Pit in the Rhondda returned to work after

0:33:450:33:50

holding out for 12 months on strike.

0:33:500:33:53

One of them was Brynn Davies.

0:33:530:33:56

I think going back a lot of people said they was proud to walk

0:33:560:33:59

back to work.

0:33:590:34:01

I didn't think I was proud to walk back to work because

0:34:010:34:04

we was defeated without a doubt.

0:34:040:34:06

A lot of people said, no we wasn't defeated. We was.

0:34:060:34:10

We'd lost the strike and we knew,

0:34:100:34:12

it wouldn't be so long the pits would go, the unions would be smashed,

0:34:120:34:17

and which it was.

0:34:170:34:19

Five years after the end of the miner's strike it was announced

0:34:190:34:23

that Mardy Deep Pit was to close.

0:34:230:34:26

For Brynn, filmed here in 1990, the future looked very uncertain.

0:34:260:34:31

-Is it beginning to sink in now?

-Yeah, especially you can't get a job,

0:34:310:34:35

I don't think I've got the stick in the house all day or walk the streets

0:34:350:34:38

or something like that. I think I'll have to get work somewhere.

0:34:380:34:42

Can you imagine your wife being the breadwinner?

0:34:420:34:45

No, I don't think I'd like that, no.

0:34:450:34:47

For Brynn and miners at Mardy, there were jobs to be had but

0:34:510:34:56

they were low paid and short term,

0:34:560:34:58

not the kind of thing to support a family on.

0:34:580:35:00

I always remember coming up the last day in the pit,

0:35:020:35:04

a lot of the boys were just talking,

0:35:040:35:06

what are we gonna do and what d'you think we're gonna do?

0:35:060:35:09

I got to,

0:35:150:35:17

into the baths then, getting ready to strip off

0:35:170:35:21

and, I think I just can remember just putting my head

0:35:220:35:25

in my hands and thinking,

0:35:250:35:27

what's now, what's next?

0:35:290:35:31

You're thinking, you've got nothing,

0:35:310:35:35

and I think it just drains you,

0:35:350:35:38

to think that you're not gonna get up tomorrow and work and,

0:35:380:35:43

what you're gonna do is...

0:35:430:35:46

Like, I'm the man who's supposed to be bringing the money in

0:35:460:35:49

and that's what I should be doing.

0:35:490:35:51

In the Welsh valleys and in mining communities all over Britain,

0:36:030:36:08

a centuries old way of life that revolved around the male breadwinner

0:36:080:36:11

was facing extinction.

0:36:110:36:13

It was the end of an era.

0:36:130:36:15

Brynn and his wife became joint managers of a local bar.

0:36:200:36:23

The work meant he was still helping to provide for his children

0:36:230:36:27

but in a different way.

0:36:270:36:29

The first couple of weeks broke my heart.

0:36:290:36:33

It's something I've never done before

0:36:330:36:36

and thinking have I done the right thing, have I done the wrong thing?

0:36:360:36:41

And it took me I think really about three months really to get into it.

0:36:410:36:45

I was used to drinking the beer, not serving it, and, to see some of my

0:36:450:36:49

friends on that side and I'd be pulling pints for those and...

0:36:490:36:53

..it was a different ball game, yeah.

0:36:540:36:57

But despite all the social changes, traditional family ties could still

0:36:580:37:03

exert huge emotional power.

0:37:030:37:05

Linda Shanson overcame her father's objections to marry Balou,

0:37:050:37:09

and like many mixed marriages, it turned out very well.

0:37:090:37:13

They have two grown up children and both Linda and Balou became

0:37:130:37:17

successful musicians in their own right.

0:37:170:37:20

As she grew older, Linda wanted to re-build

0:37:210:37:24

the relationship with her father and one of her most precious memories

0:37:240:37:28

is singing to him on his death bed.

0:37:280:37:31

I chose a song that my mother used to sing and I sang it because

0:37:310:37:36

if I sing it in a certain style I sound like my mother.

0:37:360:37:41

And I sang this song and I hadn't sung it for years and

0:37:410:37:46

I sang it to him and suddenly his face lit up and he lifted himself off

0:37:460:37:52

the bed as though with a look of recognition in his face, as though,

0:37:520:37:56

my mother was there.

0:37:560:38:00

# Down Yehuda Street in Tel Aviv

0:38:000:38:06

# In a wonderful morning in May

0:38:060:38:11

# It is heaven on Earth you'll agree

0:38:110:38:16

# Only a Yiddishe maidlach to see

0:38:160:38:22

# Da, da, dada, da, da dada

0:38:220:38:27

# Da da dada, da da dada... #

0:38:270:38:30

I think of him with me all the time actually, and whenever I perform,

0:38:300:38:35

because he always had very strong opinions, you know.

0:38:350:38:38

You must have a clear beginning and a clear middle and a clear end to your

0:38:380:38:42

performance, and he always had his ideas of how to do things.

0:38:420:38:48

And now when I sing, in public, on the stage, I think that he's

0:38:480:38:55

there and I have to give it my all for him or he'll be criticising me.

0:38:550:39:01

The relationships formed between the new generation of fathers

0:39:030:39:06

and their children as they grew older were much more open and equal.

0:39:060:39:10

Some fathers and daughters

0:39:100:39:11

were becoming like best friends, sharing their social life together.

0:39:110:39:15

In the 1990s, gay father Charlie Rice enjoyed

0:39:150:39:18

introducing his grown-up daughters to a new world he was discovering.

0:39:180:39:24

After they'd sort of both left home I suppose I had my second adolescence,

0:39:240:39:29

really. I did go a bit wild and I used to go to Ibiza a lot.

0:39:290:39:33

And anyway I'd book this holiday to Ibiza and Bronnie'd just come

0:39:330:39:37

back from the States having gone over there to see if she was going to live

0:39:370:39:40

there. and things didn't quite work out so she was feeling a bit blue.

0:39:400:39:43

So I took her with me to Ibiza, bit the wrong thing to do actually,

0:39:430:39:47

cos she cornered into my bit of world again and, she just loved it.

0:39:470:39:51

I took her clubbing and so on. It was a changing point for her.

0:39:510:39:56

I led her into what was safe to say a youthful culture because I was living

0:39:560:40:01

my life again, because it is a huge responsibility having children,

0:40:010:40:05

whether you're single or whether two parent family or whatever.

0:40:050:40:09

And I think I didn't really have a proper adolescence when I was in

0:40:090:40:12

my teens. And then maybe being a dad but slightly younger I had

0:40:120:40:16

my adolescence when I was older and I had a great time and they joined in

0:40:160:40:20

and we still, and we always have partied together, we always have.

0:40:200:40:23

By the 1990s, the new father had become an everyday phenomenon.

0:40:260:40:30

No longer the macho man of the past, he was more home based, he spent

0:40:300:40:34

quality time with his children, and he began to appear as an

0:40:340:40:38

affectionate comic character in adverts like this one.

0:40:380:40:42

Dan Gardiner was emblematic of this ideal of the new father.

0:40:460:40:51

He was happy to put his career

0:40:510:40:52

as a structural engineer on hold to become the full-time carer of

0:40:520:40:55

his young children whilst his wife pursued her career as a barrister.

0:40:550:41:00

For Dan it was important to forge a deep and lasting

0:41:040:41:06

bond with his children.

0:41:060:41:08

I decided this is a good opportunity for me to spend time with the kids

0:41:100:41:15

while Carrie established herself professionally in

0:41:150:41:19

a set of chambers in Bristol. And it seemed like really good timing

0:41:190:41:23

for both of those, I could shoulder

0:41:230:41:25

the lion's share of looking after the household and looking after the

0:41:250:41:30

kids and looking after an ill child while she established herself.

0:41:300:41:34

Dan's son suffered from a rare form of immune deficiency.

0:41:340:41:39

At least once he came quite close to death,

0:41:410:41:45

you know, he sort of flat lined.

0:41:450:41:47

We were told by the, by the...

0:41:470:41:49

doctors that he'd had sort of temporary organ failure.

0:41:490:41:54

I'm not quite sure how that works but, he'd been very, very ill.

0:41:540:41:59

And I think it made him very insecure.

0:41:590:42:02

He would struggle to get to sleep, he really would struggle to get to

0:42:020:42:06

sleep and he would wake up in the middle of the night a lot sort of

0:42:060:42:10

with, congested and coughing and whatever and I would go and,

0:42:100:42:13

go and lie in his bed with him. And the way he would

0:42:130:42:16

get to sleep would be,

0:42:160:42:18

me lying on my back and him lying on my chest, we'd be chest to chest.

0:42:180:42:24

And that would reassure him and he would go off to sleep.

0:42:240:42:28

But if I tried to move even an inch,

0:42:280:42:31

or just slightly, slowly try to offload him so that I could go

0:42:310:42:34

and get my own sleep he would wake up and he would panic and he would,

0:42:340:42:38

he would get very upset and I think he ruined my sleep, basically.

0:42:380:42:43

My sleep pattern's never, never recovered after that.

0:42:430:42:46

Hands up.

0:42:460:42:48

The new father of the '90s was proving that

0:42:480:42:51

he could be very successful as the principal carer of young children

0:42:510:42:56

but traditional attitudes that mothers were always best meant

0:42:560:42:59

there was an institutional bias against fathers taking on this role.

0:42:590:43:02

In 1995,

0:43:020:43:04

Paul Lawrence became the proud father of his first child, Kareem.

0:43:040:43:08

He was a devoted dad but after he and his

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partner split up Paul found himself powerless to get the kind of contact

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time with his son that he wanted.

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What was peculiar for me was that the entire system

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didn't seem to support the concept and perhaps even myself that a man

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could just parent his child.

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So I did what I thought was the right thing, just you know

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did everything to make sure that she could, you know, look after my son.

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Eventually after a few battles, we had to go to court for access.

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When I went to court, I looked at the

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judge and I realised that I couldn't win, cos I actually applied for full

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custody of my son, I realised I couldn't win because for her,

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first of all, it was a stretch for her to imagine that a man

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would want custody of his child.

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That was the first stretch and, without being racist in the least,

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I suspect a 6 foot 3 black man with a beard just didn't fill her picture

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of what a father looked like

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and our society is more comfortable thinking of children with women.

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After a protracted legal battle, Paul was granted an access order

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that allowed him to see his son every other weekend.

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But the order was sometimes broken by Paul's ex-partner

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and he soon discovered there was little he could do about it.

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You feel angry.

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I felt angry because I was thinking to myself,

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well, hold on a second, I've fulfilled my requirements.

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You know, we had gone to court, the court said that I should have my son.

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All you have to do is bring him to the door at 7 o'clock on a Friday,

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and you choose not to do that.

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You choose not to do that because you know there's nothing I can do.

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Monday morning I will write to a solicitor, ring a solicitor, but

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in reality there's nothing I can do.

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Dan Gardiner's life was also turned upside down

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after his wife had an affair.

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The divorce that followed was part of a new trend

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in which women initiated more marriage break-ups than men.

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Even though Dan was the children's main carer, suddenly his position

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in the family seemed under threat.

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In spite of having done the kind of egalitarian sort of equal

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roles within the partnership and, and family thing, when everything

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was in such turmoil emotionally with me I, I kind of reverted to type.

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I kind of not reverted to type, I reverted to the traditional role,

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the man's traditional role, that somehow the mother

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has a right to the family home in a way that the man doesn't.

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Although he moved out of the family home,

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the risk of losing his children soon focused Dan's mind.

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It was non-negotiable for me that,

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that we should have equal sharing in the lives of our kids.

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Carrie's initial assumption was that she would of course get the kids,

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which I resisted right from the outset.

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I was, I was possibly a bit cruel, actually.

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When she suggested that, my instant reaction was,

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well actually I've been looking after the kids, I think any court

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would let me have the kids.

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And I think that spooked her.

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So that brought her round

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very quickly to the idea of having 50/50 care arrangement.

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A new generation of fathers

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whose marriages split up were now demanding shared parenting rights.

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This was rarely achieved because the courts preferred

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the children to live with one of the parents, usually the mother.

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The change from hands-on father with a day-to-day caring role,

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to weekend dad, was hugely painful.

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Matt O'Connor was a loving dad with two young sons.

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When his marriage broke up he saw how the legal system turned partners

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against each other, aggravating every grievance and denying him

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his role as a loving father.

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I went from seeing my children every day,

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to seeing them in a contact centre, for what a judge described

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as a cooling off period.

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Which was profoundly distressing, not just for me, I think for the kids,

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because you're at home one minute and you're sitting in front of

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the TV and you're, you're watching bloody Jar Jar Binks and Star Wars.

0:47:450:47:49

And the next minute you're in this cold,

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inhospitable landscape of Formica chairs that are broken and toys that

0:47:530:47:58

are broken, being watched by sort of three people sitting at a table.

0:47:580:48:03

And a welfare officer came up to me when I was with the kids, who

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I hadn't seen for a period of time, and he started asking me questions in

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front of the children. I was like, I've not seen my children.

0:48:110:48:14

Yeah.

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So you struggle,

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to get by.

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Matt abandoned the court system and came to a friendly arrangement

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with his ex-wife so he could have regular access to his children.

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Then in 2001, Matt formed Fathers 4 Justice

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to bring the plight of fathers like himself into the public eye.

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They soon made the headlines

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with dramatic protests in which divorced dads

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dressed up as comic book superheroes and scaled famous public buildings.

0:48:570:49:02

Guys, put your super suits on, right,

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down a fancy dress shop, get a ladder, go, and that was it.

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It's when people say why do you do these things, why do you subsequently

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go off and start a campaign? I went off and started a campaign because

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the law wasn't being enforced, the court orders weren't being enforced,

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the law is farcical and grotesque and abusive to all the participants who

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go into the system, including the mums, but most of all children.

0:49:300:49:35

Divorced fathers clung to the smallest rituals that

0:49:350:49:38

bonded them with their children.

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For Paul Lawrence it was the weekend visit to the barber's shop,

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where his son's haircut took on added emotional significance.

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As my son grew up,

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you know, one of the things certainly every dad likes to have

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is the little Saturday, certainly if you're a black guy,

0:49:560:49:59

go down the barber shop, everybody's talking stories,

0:49:590:50:02

not really telling the truth, but it's a father son thing.

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And one Saturday he said, no, don't want my hair cut.

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I had an inkling as to why because I knew that she had gotten together,

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that's my ex-wife, gotten together with a gentleman

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who wore his hair in plaits.

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And, so I had an inkling that that's why, but I didn't want

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to play that game, I didn't want to play the blame game,

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so I said, OK, I can't stop you.

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So he had his hair in plaits for a number of years.

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That was a major defeat, it was a major defeat to see my son

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reflecting somebody else.

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You know, let's take ego out of this, let's take me not liking

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the guy out of this, let's just stick with the basics which is,

0:50:430:50:47

there was my son, my child,

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reflecting the look of somebody else, someone who had just come

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into his life, but obviously was having such an enormous impact

0:50:520:50:56

and that hurt, that hurt because that's not what I wanted,

0:50:560:51:00

you know, what every dad wants is for his son to look like him.

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But Paul didn't give up.

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He joined the 100 Black Men of London.

0:51:050:51:08

Their special mission was to help young Afro-Caribbean boys.

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Through this work, he eventually won back

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the respect from his son that he wanted.

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I got involved with a group called the 100 Black Men at the time,

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whose main mandate was looking after young black kids in the community

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specifically with an eye towards

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the boys and that I think was a great experience for me, because aside from

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just the normal stuff that you get when you say, you know, the man who

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you get when you become a dad, they provided me with more insight

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into stuff like mentoring, into working with young people.

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And I've got to admit I took a lot of that

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on board with working with my son.

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Then came the day when Kareem had his plaits cut off.

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It was great for me because now I saw my son reflecting,

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yes, selfishly, values which I felt were very, very important.

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And now, knowing that you know

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something like I'm back the main man, you know, and that's what it's about,

0:52:030:52:07

I make no apologies for wanting to be the main man in my son's life.

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CHILD WHINES

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No, not till after your dinner, I've told you "no".

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With the divorce rate at an all-time high,

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family break ups were hugely disruptive to children's lives.

0:52:200:52:24

This was further complicated

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when the parents went on to form new relationships and marriages.

0:52:250:52:29

The 1990s heralded a new era of step-parenting.

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By then, one in eight of all children

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were growing up in a step-family.

0:52:400:52:43

There was no more difficult situation for a step-dad

0:52:430:52:47

than to be regarded by the children as Mum's toy boy.

0:52:470:52:51

When Edison Johnson got married, he was seven years younger

0:52:510:52:55

than his wife, Beverley, and he faced the difficult prospect

0:52:550:52:58

of becoming step-dad to her three children.

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There were times when I decided not to come home,

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and to take a second journey round the block.

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Or I just sat in the car when I got home, sometimes before,

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took a, kind of, deep breath and come in the house, you know?

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I found it pretty delicate and so I did spare a thought

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for what might be going through their minds, all the time.

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And I always thought that way, "I wonder if they're OK with that,

0:53:280:53:31

"is that OK?" and I might ask my wife sometimes.

0:53:310:53:34

But I didn't find her very useful on that level.

0:53:340:53:36

I thought, "Right, I'm going to just make a decision."

0:53:360:53:40

And nine times out of 10, if I just settled myself down,

0:53:400:53:45

it wasn't as bad as what I thought it would be.

0:53:450:53:48

Or, all the things I was thinking it might be, it wasn't.

0:53:480:53:52

Edison gradually won the affection and respect

0:53:530:53:56

of his wife's three children,

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but when he and Beverly decided they wanted their own child,

0:53:580:54:01

he wasn't sure how he would cope with becoming a father himself.

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I looked at the baby and it didn't look as bad as I thought,

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cos I think babies don't actually look nice when they're first born.

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But, as anything, I think they're... I think it's...

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Your baby looks nice to you when it's born.

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So it was beautiful, he's beautiful,

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he's absolutely gorgeous,

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absolutely gorgeous.

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I held him in my arms, and he was pretty chilled and relaxed, really,

0:54:340:54:38

he wasn't fussed, or anything like that.

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And then, it was busy, you know, changing diapers,

0:54:410:54:46

what's the big deal?

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Feeding babies, what's the big deal?

0:54:480:54:51

I literally took... I was looking after that baby...

0:54:510:54:54

When she fell asleep I took the baby off the breast,

0:54:540:54:56

looked after the baby for myself and then put the baby to bed,

0:54:560:55:00

made sure the baby was washed, cleaned

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and done all of that stuff easily.

0:55:020:55:05

So by the time he's got his own character,

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and he's literally staring at me as I walk across that room,

0:55:080:55:12

that's when I think to myself, "Nah, is he looking at me?"

0:55:120:55:16

Are you with me? That's when it starts to look good, you know?

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Matt O'Connor re-married,

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had a new son and became step-dad to his second wife's daughter.

0:55:230:55:26

It was a very modern and happy family.

0:55:260:55:29

But his commitment to Fathers4Justice

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remained as strong as ever.

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What sort of person is going to say,

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"Actually, you know what? We don't need fathers."

0:55:380:55:42

What sort of person is going to say,

0:55:420:55:44

"Well, we know we're going to put you through eight years or 10 years

0:55:440:55:48

"of going through the family justice system,

0:55:480:55:51

"bankrupt the family - emotionally and economically,

0:55:510:55:54

"with no resolution."

0:55:540:55:56

It's a fundamentally abusive system.

0:55:560:55:58

What we're saying is, "Right, you can't necessarily go back

0:55:580:56:01

"to the traditional nuclear family, but the most important thing is -

0:56:010:56:05

"the maths is simple, two parents are better than one."

0:56:050:56:09

And that's what I believe in.

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After separation or, yeah, hopefully, if you're together,

0:56:110:56:14

that's even better. But if it has to be after separation,

0:56:140:56:19

retain the love and care of both parents

0:56:190:56:22

and never ever hate your ex more than you love your children.

0:56:220:56:26

Fathers have come a long way in the last hundred years.

0:56:280:56:31

Most modern dads want to enjoy

0:56:310:56:33

an intimate relationship with their children from the beginning.

0:56:330:56:36

And breaking the bond with their children

0:56:360:56:39

is something they are less inclined to accept than before.

0:56:390:56:42

Fathers in history have often been stereotyped as remote,

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distant and uncaring figures.

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But across a hundred years of change,

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encompassing a social and sexual revolution,

0:56:510:56:54

they've enjoyed much closer and more important relationships

0:56:540:56:57

with their children than has previously been thought.

0:56:570:57:00

Those who did, have enriched their own lives. On the way,

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changing attitudes and making new lives possible for their children.

0:57:070:57:11

Laeeq and Farhat Khan are now proud grandparents

0:57:130:57:17

and are happy with the new life they made in Britain.

0:57:170:57:21

Our birthdays come, we look forward to them, and any excuse to celebrate,

0:57:210:57:27

any excuse to kiss. I mean, I still kiss them.

0:57:270:57:30

I still kiss them in front of their wives.

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I don't... It doesn't deter me.

0:57:350:57:38

It's my son and those are my grandchildren.

0:57:380:57:42

So that's my life,

0:57:440:57:47

that's my happiness.

0:57:470:57:49

Rashid re-established close contact with his children

0:57:490:57:53

when he returned to Britain, and now has a large extended family.

0:57:530:57:58

They've given me unconditional love.

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They've given me unconditional love.

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It's beautiful.

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Dan Gardiner and his ex-wife are now on friendly terms,

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and together, they've created new and lasting relationships

0:58:220:58:25

with their children.

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I've always wanted to be really good friends with my kids, you know?

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I'm not sure I had that with my dad, but I had it a bit with my dad,

0:58:300:58:34

but when it came to me having my kids it was...

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They were so funny and they were such nice people

0:58:370:58:40

that I just wanted to be their friends as well as being their dad.

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