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I'm Tyger Drew-Honey and I'm about to turn 18. I'm on the cusp of adulthood. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
But going from boy to man is harder than it looks. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Oh! | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Ooh! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
I look like Simon Cowell! | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
And if you think real life is confusing, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
-you should see the inside of my head. -Stop! -Yeah, gobble, gobble! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Oh, yes, I love you! So I want to know how everyone else is coping. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:30 | |
Surely I'm not the only one struggling to become a grown-up? | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
Have I got red lips? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
# No, you girls never know | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
# How you make a boy feel. # | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
To kick things off, I decided to stick with what I know - porn. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Not only do I enjoy a bit from time to time, but I'm also | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
part of the first generation to have 24/7 access to hardcore porn. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Porn is normal. Everyone watches it. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
But what I wanted to know was - what's it doing to us? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Big boobs, big bum, little waist, shaven. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Girls have to be shaven, otherwise I don't go there. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
So I went on a mission to discover | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
if our fondness for porn fantasy is impacting sex in the real world. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
I've just watched a woman pretty much get everything done to her. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
Why didn't I get turned on? Why didn't I get a boner? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I got up close and personal to the porn habits of other young people... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I was watching it at least six hours a day, masturbating three times, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
four times a day. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
..as well as facing up to a few of my own. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
You know, I can't help wonder, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
but maybe my own sex life has been informed by porn. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Oh - one more thing I should mention, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Britain's most famous porn star is also my dad. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
So shall we move my cock out the way now? | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
You stick your cock where you want! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
A Short History of British Porn Consumption. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Pay attention at the back! | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
From the dawn of time, our species has been obsessed with pornography. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Homo erectus even sounds like a porn star name. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
In the Victorian era, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
all it took was a flash of ankle to get men to knock one out. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
The 1970s kicked off with Britain's biggest daily newspaper | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
taking boobs from the top shelf and onto page 3. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Phwoarr! | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
Today it feels like it's harder to avoid porn than it is to find it. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
It's everywhere. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
So what is this unlimited access to porn doing to us? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
I started my journey in Soho, once the sex capital of Britain | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and where previous generations came to get their porn fix. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
That is, before the internet made leaving the house redundant. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I reckon I started watching porn at about eight or nine | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
and, you know, at that age, the only real perception you've got | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
of that sort of thing is boobs and that's just about it. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
So to discover pages and pages and pages of like hard-core | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
pornography, it kind of just opened my eyes to this really | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
sort of thrilling, exciting and naughty world. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
In the years since then, that world has exploded. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
It's claimed that as much as a third of all internet content | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
is pornographic. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:04 | |
The rest is pictures of cats and like a porn star's penis, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
that statistic is still growing. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
I'd say...I'd say I'm quite a sexual person, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
and you know, sometimes, everyone gets those urges where you | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
want to have an orgasm and whatnot and if you're not with | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
someone at that moment, then I think most people would go to porn. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
It's the best solution. It's easily accessible, it's pretty quick. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Um, you know, gets the job done. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
According to a recent YouGov survey, over half of | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
15 to 17-year-olds have accessed pornography on a smartphone or tablet. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
I mean, you know, if you've ever gone on to a porn site, then | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
you'll know that it's strictly over 18s only, but I mean, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
unlike these places, there's obviously, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
I mean, there's no way to check. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
My whole generation would never have to go into one of these shops. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
It's like nowadays, it's just like whatever you fancy, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
you just go on your phone and it's all there. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
All right, mate? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
The first time I watched porn, I think I was 13. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
I think I was about 12. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
13, 14. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
-15. -I was about 11. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Probably about 12. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
-12, yeah. -I was probably about 10, maybe. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
I know I have loads of friends that watch porn for pleasure. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
Of course I liked it. Something new. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
It was lesbian porn and at first, I didn't really know what it was, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
but I liked it. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
It was just me, my computer and my cream and I just went at it. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-It's really easy. -It's really easy to find porn now. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Just type into Google whatever you like. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
I think I was shocked at first | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
because I had never seen anything explicit before. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
We'd never seen sex. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
All my friends watch it and talk about it and that's been | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
since I was 11. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
I think everyone I've dated has watched porn. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Like, we're in a generation now where it is normal. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Porn is normal and everyone watches it. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
So it seems we're all at it. No big surprise there. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
It's free, it's fun, it's a bit of fantasy - what's not to love? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
But with the Government trying to stick internet filters all over | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
the place, I wanted to know if porn is really such a bad thing. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
So I set off to meet an expert, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
someone who knows the industry inside out. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
He's got 30 years' experience and has made over 500 films. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
-Come in. -Can I have a coffee or something? -Double espresso? -Yeah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
You know, you know. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, my dad. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-Right, can we do this again? -Yes. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Also known as legendary porn star Ben Dover, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
my dad was the UK's most successful porn producer before free | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
internet porn totally shafted him. Ironic, really. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
We'll see you real soon on Ben Dover... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
I don't know, what is this show called, anyway? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Lifetime achievement, services to the industry. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Oh, it's not the lifetime achievement. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Do you think they're trying to tell me something? 2,000. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
That's best gonzo videos so that's for the Ben Dover series. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
That's the latest one I got, which comes with an award | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
that's disappeared, which was for Only Fools And Arses, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
which was the last film we did for Bluebird before they closed down. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Yes, that is a life-sized replica of my dad's penis and no, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
it's not weird that I'm holding it like that. It's not weird at all. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
I've definitely got the DNA of the shape of your helmet. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-Do you think so? -Yeah. -Do you think we're sharing helmet shapes? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-Well, yeah. Well, you know, that would be... -You are my dad. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Yeah, you're right. It is. We have got... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-Similar, but then it would be, wouldn't it? -Yeah. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Don't believe what I just said. It's pretty weird. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-Although, see, I can do this. -Look at your balls. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-Dickhead! -Ha, dickhead! -So shall remove my cock out of the way now? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
Um, yeah. You stick your cock where you want. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
You do, don't you? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Stop it! | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
Come on, now. Ask a proper documentary question. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
You know how the industry is changing now it's | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
just on the internet, like all over the place? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
I know, it's like now, whenever I see stuff on the internet, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
it's like this six minute... | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
all it is is just two people having sex. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
I think people are starting to want something slightly a bit more | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-interesting, if you will. -Mmmm... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Maybe, but I mean, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
don't you think it's just all completely fake, anyway? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
I mean, d'you think porn is actually representative | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-whatsoever of what sex is like? -No. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
I think a lot of people, especially young people, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
now are thinking that they've got to have sex | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
like they're in a porn movie. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
They've got to like, you know, pretend that they're porn stars! | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
I mean, the whole thing started years ago | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
when every single girl, even if she wasn't in the porn business, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
started shaving her pussy for some reason. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
So look, you know, it was like, that was like the porn star look, and | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
then even people who work in offices were starting to shave their pussy. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Hey, dad - do think you could possibly say "pussy" | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
a few more times? No, that would be impossible. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
And that's another thing I think, is for the future, bring back the bush. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I think the bush is going to come back in quite a big way. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I'm getting the hang of this. Documentaries love a good campaign. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
-'What do we want?' -Bush! | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-'When do we want it?' -However long it takes pubes to grow! | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
OK. Maybe not quite Make Poverty History but good try, Dad. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
I mean, there's two ways of looking at it. There's two ways of saying, you can say, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
you know, the innocence has been lost | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
because people never used to learn about loads of different sort of | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
techniques and everything till they were probably in their early 20s, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
um, whereas now, you've got 18-year-old girls | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
who are just doing everything. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
But I think it's putting a lot of pressure on girls and boys because | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
girls are thinking that whereas before, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
all they had to do was just lay there and have sex, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
now they are realising that there's a whole load of other stuff that | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
guys want girls to do and I guess they feel under pressure to do it. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
I hate to say it, but the old man was making a good point. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Free porn is opening our eyes to all kinds of stuff. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
With the internet's most searched word being "sex", | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
our curiosity is being indulged like never before and for an | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
increasing number of young guys, watching just isn't enough. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
They want something more personal and interactive. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-Straight through there. -Nice place. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
Webcaming is now the most popular genre of porn, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
with the most visited adult website in the world devoted to nothing | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
but girls and their webcams. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Leslie Rose has been a webcam girl for the last six months. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
-So I presume these are your work clothes? -Ha! They are. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
There are people who have got me underwear sets | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and things like that to wear specifically for their shows, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
people who buy me shoes because they want me | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-to wear shoes on their shows, people like to treat you, also. -Is that... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
Is that the reason why you're in your dressing gown right now, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
so it's like easy access if you get a call? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
I haven't just like got out of the bath looking all glamorous, like hey! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Yeah, I have like a pink underwear set on underneath, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
so literally I can just go feow! - | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
take it off, do my call, put everything back on, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
put my dressing gown back on, get comfy again, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
have a drink and like, do my revision. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
So it's the...the money that you earn from doing this, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-that, you know, supports your education, right? -Yeah. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I literally woke up and decided to go to uni one day and it was | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
because of the fact that I'd been webcaming and I saw how much money | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
I could be making and how much money I was making. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
As a woman, my sexuality is my biggest commodity, so like, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
if people want me, they can have me if they pay for me. So, yeah. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
With the price of one of Leslie's shows starting at just a tenner, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
she is seeing more and more guys my age log on for a good time. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Some of them are shy. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Some of them are just kind of discovering that there is this | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
interactive thing that, you know, they can have so readily available. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
I think some people as well use it as a bit of a... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
not a replacement for, but like on a par with porn, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
because it's something that they can physically hold in their hand | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
and you're right there and they can move around with you and like, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
it's not just on a like screen that's stationary or anything like that. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
And they can interact with you. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
Do you have much of an insight into what sort of things that they like? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
If you ask, they'll tell you what they like. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
And what...other times, it's really funny, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
cos they'll have a really big TV and it'll just be porn on it. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-Really? -And like... -What sort of porn? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
There's...honestly, there's this one guy who rings me and... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Well, who books me, and he books me for 15 minutes each time | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
and every single time it's different. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I prefer when it's young guys, because it's somebody that I could... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
I can kind of get into a bit more. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
Because you could potentially, in another life, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-be with them or something. -Yeah, exactly. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
Like, I can imagine it actually being in the same room as them or | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
being with them, or like knowing them in some way, something like that. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
You know, it's... It's nice, as bad as it sounds. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-You've got a call coming in. -I have got a call coming in. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Um, you're going to have to leave. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Out! Go, go, go! Out. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-Oh... -No! -Forget your penis! -Go! Go! | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
Shut the door behind you! | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Hello, gorgeous. How are you? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
Mm, thank you very much, darling! Do you like my tattoos? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Yeah, I bet you'd love to get your hands all over this body, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-wouldn't you, babe? -This is weird! | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
-Not as weird as you listening through the door, Tyger! -Boy! | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
Leslie's session was short and sweet and from what | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
I'd heard through the door, she'd had one very happy customer. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Er, well, I mean, that sounded like quite a lot of fun. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
-Why don't you, um, go next door and give it a go for yourself? -But, um... | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
-Yeah. I mean, if...if...if...if... if you want me to. -Off you go. -Wow! | 0:12:43 | 0:12:49 | |
Yeah, OK. Wow. OK. Cool. OK. Get in! | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
This was going to be amazing. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
A beautiful girl was about to do anything that I wanted. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
You want to know how we feel in shows, YOU'VE got to give ME a show. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
Yeah - this wasn't quite what I'd imagined. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Unfortunately, I'm only allowed to show you a few seconds of the following footage | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
because the BBC have deemed it too sexy for general viewing. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
-'Face the other way! Face me now, come on!' -Sorry, I'm new to this. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
Right, make waves at me. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
-'Make waves at me.' -You don't actually do this, do you? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
'You just need to look sultry.' | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Waves. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
'Give it some oomph!' | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Behind it. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
Are you having fun? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
What I want, I get. I'm the customer. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
'You haven't paid me!' | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
-OK, bye, then. -See you later. -Have a nice evening. -Bye. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
'Personal humiliation aside, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
'my evening was definitely an eye-opener. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
'I've never tried online sex myself, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
'and after stepping inside Leslie's world, I'm in no rush to. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
'I'd started to see just how the internet is changing not | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
'just our viewing habits but the industry itself. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
'To find out what the porn stars themselves | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
'make of our constant access to the free stuff, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
'I set off for the glitziest night in the UK porn industry calendar. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
'Using my wit, schoolboy charm and, in hindsight, really silly hat, I'd | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
'blagged my way onto the red carpet at porn's | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
'equivalent of the BAFTAs - the SHAFTAs. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
'See what they did there?' | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
What do you think about how easily porn can be | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
-accessed on the internet? -You know what? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
It actually kind of sucks that it can be accessed | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
-so easily cos it's kind of ruining the porn industry. -Your livings? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
It is. You can watch it. Anybody thinks they're a porn star now. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
You can make a video on your own instead of a porn star. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Yeah, cos the money and time that goes into it, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-they're all big shoots, aren't they? -Yes, very big. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Well, fantastic. Thank you for talking to me. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
-Have a lovely evening. -All right. You too. -Nice to meet you. Bye-bye. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Nice to meet you. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
'I soon realised I'd set myself a hard task - | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
'asking serious questions in the face of serious distractions.' | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Wow. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
'I decided I needed the interview equivalent of a cold shower.' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
-So you're, like, a fan of the SHAFTAs? -Yeah, I like girls. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
-You know, I like dirty girls. -So you like porn, then? -Yeah. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
-What would, like, your dream porn scene be? -Two girls. -Two girls? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I think women, two women, is more feminine, it's beautiful, you know? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-When you see, like, doing and receiving. -Yeah. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I think, when a man and a woman does it, it's kind of... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
I mean, I'll do it nicely, but those guys, you know? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
Some of them are animals. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
Most guys, walking down the street, don't have a 10-inch knob. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
We try our best, you know? We can't all go on. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Not all guys are on Viagra, anyway, I mean... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
I can go maybe for, like, 10 minutes. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
I can't go for an hour, you know? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
'Maybe not, but I know a man who can.' | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
-So Dad, what are you doing here tonight? -Um... | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-I'm presenting Best MILF. -Best MILF? Is that the name of the award? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
I'm guessing, yeah. Yeah. Something like that. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Hottie's MILF or something MILF, anyway. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
It's something to do with MILFs. I don't know. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
I don't know why I can't get Best New Starlet. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Cos you're about 60, Dad! | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Yeah, all right! | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
-My name's Tyger. What's your name? -Brooklyn. -Brooklyn? -Brooklyn Blue. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Blue? Why are you here tonight, then? -Because I do naughty things. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-Ooh! What do you do, then? -I shoot porn. -You shoot porn? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-Do you enjoy shooting porn? -I love shooting porn. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
What's your opinion on young people watching porn? Do you think they watch too much? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I think it's great that young people watch porn. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Personally, I watch porn myself. I always have done, since I was young. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
And I think it's amazing. I think, like... | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I think it teaches people cos when people watch porn, it kind | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
of teaches them what their parents and the schools don't teach them. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Yeah. Re-enacting the things from the movies. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Babe, the stuff I've learnt since doing porn, I tell you! | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
'Was it true that porn stars were teaching us | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
'everything we know about sex?' | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I think, like, watching porn does become a part of, like, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
sex education, for the younger generation more so. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
My personal experience, I definitely learnt a lot from porn. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
It's like a manual. Watching porn is like a manual, I suppose. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
That's the whole point of it, really, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
to then take that video and then, you know, do it on a bird. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
That's the aim. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
I think guys are thinking they're learning, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
that they're learning about sex, watching porn. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
'Well, we all had to start somewhere. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
'My sex ed at school hadn't exactly filled me with confidence. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
'Nowadays, I live here, with my mum and Surrey's randiest dog, Reggie. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
'Even though Mum and Dad separated a few years ago, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
'I still feel I was very lucky growing up.' | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
You really want five bits of bacon, Tyger? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Your eyes are bigger than your belly cos that is a lot of bacon. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'Sex and porn was an open topic in my house and not just | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
'because of my dad. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
'My mum was part of the industry, too, first as an adult model | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
'and then later, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
'as editor of one of the world's biggest pornographic magazines.' | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Tyger, how do you want this tripledecker? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
-Like that and then the butter this side? -I've done it, Mum. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-I've done it. -Right, OK. Go on, then. -Just leave it! | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-Just leave it to me now. This is my bit. -Do it, then. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
You're not making it easy for me! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
I thought that because Tyger's grown up around porn, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
it's very difficult to know how it's affected him | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
because, you know, the odd porn star would come to our house | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
and this one, Pascal, this Belgian guy who we knew very well | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
and was always round our house, Tyger just knew him as a normal person | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and he used to sort of say about what Dad does for a living. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
And, you know, we used to say, "He's making kissy-kiss films with | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
"Pascal," you know, from about the age of seven type of thing. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Or, "Mummy and Daddy film people having special hugs." | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Yeah, special hugs. Yeah. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
You know, you don't really think about what might be going on. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
All you really just know, you're just a little boy | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
and these are lovely people, they work with Mum and Dad. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Oh, that's cool, like Pascal and... What was her name? Champagne? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
I don't know. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
You mean that girl who got ready in our house once, Pascal's girlfriend? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-No, Champagne. Her name was Champagne. -Oh, Charmaine? -Charmaine. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-Charmaine. You called her Champagne! -Cos I was only about five or six. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Charmaine Sinclair. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
Funnily enough, she owns the dry cleaner's in Morton now! | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
'Good on you, Champagne. You've really...cleaned up your act. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
'I'm fairly convinced that my parents' honesty over the years | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
'has helped get rid of any shame I may have felt about watching porn. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
'If it had have been my dirty little secret, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
'I sometimes wonder if I'd have developed a bit of a habit. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
'After all, you know what they say - tell a teenage boy not to do | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
'something and they'll masturbate furiously for 100 days. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
'That is the saying, isn't it?' | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I'd say I'd watch porn probably at least once a day, at least. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
There was this stage where I was three times a day, really. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Three or four times, yeah. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
3-4 times a week, I'd say. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
At least once a week, I guess, or something like that. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
That's news to me. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
I was addicted to it when I first got into it. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Like, I'd come home from school, put porn on. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
From there, more porn. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
That's it. It just escalated! | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
'It's estimated that more than a quarter of boys aged 14-17 in | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
'the UK view porn once a week, with 5% admitting to using it everyday. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
'The rest were too busy watching porn to answer the survey. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
'Now, that might not sound like much, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
'but that's thousands of guys who are potentially addicted to porn. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
'I travelled to Essex to meet 19-year-old Zach who | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
'curbed his appetite for hard-core porn by going cold turkey.' | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Um... I think... Is he that lad there? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
'Ironically, cold turkey is a popular subgenre in the porn world.' | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
# Oh, cold turkey, baby Yeah, cold turkey, oh, yeah | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
# I know you love that cold turkey, baby, oh, yeah, oh, yeah | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
# Yeah, give me that cold turkey Yeah, gobble, gobble! # | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
'Nah! I just made that up.' | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
-You all right, mate? Are you Zach? -Yeah. You all right, man? How you doing? -Yeah, how's it going, man? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-Is it all right to park here? -Yeah, that'll be fine. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-How's it going, buddy? I'm Tyger. Nice to meet you. -You too. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
I got to a point where I think I watched porn every day for a week, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and I just felt, like, dirty. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
So, I mean, do you think you were addicted to porn? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
I think everyone, in one form or another, is addicted to porn. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
If you watch it three or four times a week to once a week, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
you've still got that sort of schedule of once a week, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
three or four times a week, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
but that was, like, the main reason I thought, enough's enough. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
How'd you think the porn you've watched has had | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
an effect on your relationship with girls and women? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Even times with me, you may have been with a girl and think, I'd | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
actually rather be at home in front of a laptop and finish myself off. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
Sounds really horrible, but I think most boys have had that | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
sort of experience where you think, I'd rather just be watching porn. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
'Zach seemed like a down-to-earth guy | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
'and I could relate to a lot of what he was saying. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
'That evening, we met his mates at the pub and, I didn't know it yet, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
'but he was about to make quite the revelation.' | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-Aaron, Frankie. Tyger. -Who's Aaron, who's Frankie? -I'm Frankie. -Aaron, Frankie. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I'm Tyger. Nice to meet you. I like that shirt. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-What do you guys think of porn? -Personally, I think porn is... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
On the internet, it's a bit too much, you know what I mean? | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
What do you mean too much? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
Everywhere you go, like, for instance, if you was on... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
So if I was watching a film on my laptop, then, as it was downloading, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
there would be a pop-up of "download now, free membership for life". | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Having said that, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
that just shows you've been looking at some dodgy stuff on your laptop! | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-Ain't my fault! It catches your eye. -How often do you guys watch it? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
Er... It depends. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Sometimes, every day but, I mean, like, online, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-it's always there, so when you're bored, you just... -Yeah. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Sometimes, boredom just hits you, yeah. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
'OK, everyone. Here it is. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
'Bombshell moment.' | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
I'd say I've watched my fair share of porn to know, as a career, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
that's something I'd want to do. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
'What?! Zach wanted to be a porn star?' | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
If you can do it five times in a day, then surely, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
you should make it in the industry? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
'I was surprised, to say the least, so I did what any normal | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
'person would do in that situation | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
'and distracted us all with a selfie.' | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Half a face will do. Half a face? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
'If I'm honest, I don't think he looks like a porn star. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
'I don't think he'd have the gusto, do you know what I mean?' | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
I don't think he'd have the pizzazz in him to sort of, you know, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
go for hours. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
I don't think... I don't know. I'd have to find out. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
I'd have to basically see his broomstick first | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
and make a bit of a judgment on that. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
You know, that might tip the odds in his favour. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
'Meeting Zach gave me a taste of how much porn can mess with your mind. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
'Even though I've watched my fair share of hard-core stuff, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
'I've never thought about following in my father's footsteps. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
'But I had started to wonder what effect my generation's mass | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
'porn consumption was having.' | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
People expect you to do more things. Boys definitely have higher | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
expectations of how girls should act, sexually. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
I reckon watching porn makes someone want to do more things. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Anal is a big expectation now. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-I think threesomes, as well. -Yes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
And watersports, like, they expect to, like, piss in your mouth | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
and stuff. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
And what's it called? Creampies. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
In your face. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
And if you kind of say, oh, I'm not really up for that, then people | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
might think that you're a prude or that you're kind of a bit frigid. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
I think also, like, the expectation of what your body looks like. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Big boobs, big bum, a little waist, shaven. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Guys really do expect you to be shaved now because of porn. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Yeah, they have to be shaven. Of course. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Girls have to be shaven, otherwise I don't go there. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
It gives people warped ideas of what sex should be like. It's fucking now. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
-It's not sex. It's fucking. -It's not making love. It's fucking. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
'A report last year found that access and exposure to porn is | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
'linked to young people engaging in more risky sexual behaviour. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
'If they were using porn, they were more likely to have had anal sex | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
'or have unprotected anal and oral sex. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
'I was on my way to meet a woman who had found | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
'herself on the receiving end of generation porn.' | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
-I think we're sitting here. -Thank you very much. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
There you go, my fair lady. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Thank you, kind sir. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
'Cindy Gallop's affection for dating younger men inspired her to | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
'create MakeLoveNotPorn. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
'A global online campaign to get real sex back into the bedroom.' | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
So, Cindy, what is it you like about younger men? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Lot's of stamina. Very short recovery periods. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Generally speaking, I just like to have a lot of sex. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
The older I get the hornier I get so I like to fuck all night, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
fuck all day. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
I like to have as much sex as possible and younger men deliver. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
In a way that, unfortunately, men my own age don't. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Could you tell me about any specific experiences that you've had | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
with younger guys who have probably watched far too much porn? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
It's really important to emphasise that the issue isn't porn. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
The issue is the absence of talking about sex in the real world. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
So I dated one guy who was 23. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
And he began watching porn at the age of 10 or 11. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
And he lost his virginity at the age of 18. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
So for seven, eight years he was masturbating massively, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
watching huge amounts of porn. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
As a result he has never come inside a woman. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Never come in a woman's mouth, never come through a hand job. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
The only way he can come during sex is by jerking himself off. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Wow, really? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
And I realised I was encountering an issue that would never have crossed | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
my mind if I had not encountered it intimately and personally. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Which is what happens when two things converge | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
and I want to emphasise the convergence of these two factors. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
'That's me nodding like I know what convergence means.' | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
When today's total freedom of access to hardcore porn online | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
meets our society's reluctance to talk openly and honestly about sex. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:40 | |
So there are things like porn world. All men love come in women's faces. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
And all women love having their faces come on. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Real world, some people like this, some people don't. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
And it's a good idea to have the conversation | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and find out and make sure everyone's happy with what's going on. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
Porn world, women have no hair down there. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Real world, some women like shaving and some don't. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Some men like women au naturel. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Do you think the women that do shave shave as a result of having | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
watched porn and thinking, "that's what guys like." | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-That's what I have to do? -Yes, absolutely. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
And I know that by the way. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Porn does not teach women how to ask for and experience their own | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
pleasure and it doesn't teach young men how to give it. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
And so focusing on making sure a woman has a great time is not | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
what porn teaches men. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
'I never really thought about it before. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
'But Cindy had a point. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
'Because of porn men can't see a need for condoms. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
'Because of porn men think women love it when you come in their face. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
'Because of porn all men expect anal.' | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Whoa, hold up now. I get the point. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I think the viewers could probably imagine that for themselves. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
'Meeting Cindy made me | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
'think about how the fantasy of porn is impacting the realities of sex. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
'I started to wonder if our constant connection with hardcore porn | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
'was helping us to disconnect from real world relationships?' | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
-You're Rundeep? -Yeah. You all right? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
'Rundeep was a 21-year-old shift worker who got in contact after | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
'he realised his world of fantasy | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
and reality had become truly blurred.' | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
I know it's not reality but when you watch it you're like, "Yeah, I can do | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
"that. I want some of that." | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
And that's the kind of people I'd love to meet. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
It's a bit strange, I know but normal girls don't stand out for me. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
In the past I've bought escorts | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
and once you've done it it's a different story because | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
they don't compare to different girls because they do things differently. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
When you've hired escorts what's the favourite things they do for you? | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-What do you like? -I like the role-plays they do. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
The stripping tease, the domination. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
They've got whips, you're tied up and you can't do nothing. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
You're trying to get out but you can't. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
It's like a fantasy. Little role-play. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
I've had a secretary before and I was pretending | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
I was a manager in an office. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Different to what most people do | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
because when you meet a normal girl they really wouldn't want to do that. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
So what is it that normal girls won't do that people in porn do do? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
They won't swallow, they won't attend parties, gang bang parties. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
There's more but I can't remember off the top of my head. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
-They won't do buckaroo. -'Buckaroo, I used to love playing that. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
'Stick the hat on the little donkey.' | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
Basically when you have one girl and there's eight, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
nine people to one girl. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
And she has to suck on all cocks at the same time. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
"Oh, different Buckaroo. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
"Nope, never played that." | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
Have you ever done anything like that? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
I thought about it but I didn't want to go on my own because I was a bit shy. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
I just want to stop watching porn | 0:29:41 | 0:29:42 | |
because it's not what I want to be doing. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
It's effected me going ahead in life. I want to change my life around. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
-Would you say porn has taken over your life? -That's correct. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
-And you need to make it un-take over your life. -That's correct. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
'Rundeep's descent into the world of sex for hire may seem extreme | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
'but I discovered he wasn't alone.' | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Nowadays it seems that any one you see you can have potentially because | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
there are actually websites where you can hire porn stars as escorts. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:14 | |
To basically help you live out your wildest dreams. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
There are so many of these porn stars you can hire to have | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
sex with and do whatever you want. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
£250, £300, very open-minded. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Minimum six hours, £1,300. Blimey! | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
This is a whole new thing to me. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
I knew porn existed and I kind of knew escorts existed | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
but I didn't know the two worlds collided. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
'Looking at this stuff made me realise the deeper I delved | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
'the line between fantasy and reality seemed to be getting thinner. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
'Whilst Rundeep was determined to redress the balance, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
'I wasn't really sure Zach knew what he was getting into. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
'Even though he said he'd given up watching it, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
'he still saw a career in porn as part of his future.' | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
I don't think Zach's alone. I think there's loads of kids | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
and young people who don't really know what they want to do | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
and so they clutch at straws and see what's out there | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
because porn's so out there that's what Zach wants to do but... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
I'm really hoping he'll see sense and consider another path. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
-How's it going, buddy? -Bit chilly. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
-Nice to see you. -Likewise. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
'Another thing about young people is how much | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
'we enjoy sitting on the wrong parts of benches. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
'Look at us trying to be cool there.' | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
What is your take on me wanting to do it. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Porn's been a big part of your life. What's your opinion. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
A bit weird or normal or surreal? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
I don't think it is the best career path to go down. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Purely from things I've learned from my dad | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
and the trouble we have come across as a family. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
I think being a porn star makes it very hard to have relationships. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Do you think you'll be able to find someone who will mother | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
your child if you're a porn star and having sex with other women? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
Do you want to be at home having a nice family dinner or | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
be in Hackney having sex with Brooklyn Blue at 9:30 at night for 100 quid? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
It's probably best a short term thing. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
You can't do it for ever, as you know. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
If I was to have kids one day I wouldn't want them to find about it. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
I don't know why. I don't know how your mum and dad felt about it. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
They were really open with you. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
For me, I'd want to keep it them not knowing really. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Your kids will find out. People will know it's you. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Even if you do move on to another profession. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
People will maybe see videos of you on the internet. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
It will be out there for ever for everyone to see. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
The more you say it the more I can slowly feel the mind going. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
Like you said, it is money, family for ever so it could be... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
You've experienced it. Nobody knows more about this than you so... | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
It does make you think. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
'If I was going to convince Zach a career in porn was a bad idea, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
'I'd have to think of something radical.' | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
-Make a wish. -Sorry. Enough of porn. More about me. It was my birthday. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:11 | |
I was now, officially an adult. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
If I wanted to I could get into a nightclub. I could... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
What else can you do at the age of majority? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
I could book an escort if I wanted to. I could go to a strip club. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I could have a lap dance. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Now, I'd never fancied the idea of hiring escorts | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
but a strip club, yeah, I could do that. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
After all, it's all in the name of research, right? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
I've never been into a strip club before. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
I'm used to going on my phone. This isn't really my scene. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
So I'm pretty nervous to be honest. I don't really know what to expect. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
-Hello. -You, all right? -I'm George. Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
-I'm Tyger. -Take a seat. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-How's your day been? -Yeah, good. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
'God, look how awkward I am. Come on, Tyger, be cool. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
'I know what you're thinking, every 18-year-old boy's dream, right? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
'But the truth is, as this gorgeous woman was dancing around a | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
'pole for me, all I could think was, "I reckon I could do that." | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
'How hard could it be? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
'Look at me. Sexy climbing, sexy climbing. Sexy falling. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
'This really hurts.' | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
There we go. There's your dance. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
-Did you enjoy it? -Yeah, it was good. Cool. -Thank you very much. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
'Shake hands, very cool.' | 0:34:45 | 0:34:46 | |
'If they're looking for a new James Bond, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
'consider that my audition tape.' | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I spent 20 quid for a three minute dance. Um... So, yeah. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
I feel slightly robbed. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
I think it's a bit of a generation thing, to be honest. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
I think before we had smartphones and such easily accessible | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
porn on the internet, this is where everyone came. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
But nowadays, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:10 | |
when you turn 18 or 21 you might go to one of these places to see | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
what it's like but at the end of the day you're going to resort to | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
free porn on your phone just like that. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
'I'd seen first-hand how disappointing a fantasy can | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
'seem in the flesh so when I was invited to the filming of a porn | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
'shoot by my old friend Brooklyn Blue I knew just who to take with me.' | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
I wondered if you'd like to come along and be on set | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
and see everything that's happening and stuff. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
That sounds good. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
-I'd love to. -There's a chance it won't be quite what you think it's | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
going to be like. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
And I think there's a chance you'll see the realities of it. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
It might turn your head in the other direction. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
It's a mixture of excitement and fear of maybe not seeing | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
it in the same light as I used to, if that makes sense. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Yeah, of course. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
I'm excited for the fact that not a lot of people get to experience this. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
Best case is doing this, thinking this is right up my street. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
That would be the best case. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
As a mate I want to help him and make him see the light | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
and you could do something else a lot better. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
What do you think they're going to be wearing? | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
'I'm no expert, Zach, but I'd imagine not a lot. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
'We headed to East London where Brooklyn was shooting | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
'a vampire themed porn film. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
'Twilight has a lot to answer for. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
'My cunning plan was to give Zach a bit of shock therapy. Tyger style.' | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
Help me, help me. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
I really want to do a shot if I'm lying on the bed and he's on top | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
of me and you get a good shot of him kissing and kissing down my neck. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
-And then going to bite. -So he hasn't bitten you yet. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
You end up on the bed and then he bites you. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Monty's a better director than me. I'm useless. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
I'm good at doing the porn stuff but the directing... | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
It's difficult. Very difficult. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
-I reckon there's been a few porn films shot in here. -Definitely. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:20 | |
'Being professional is vital in these situations. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
'Maybe not.' | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
I can hear them through there. Should we go and meet them? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
-Are we allowed? -How you feeling? -I'm feeling all right. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Compared to what I was in the car. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
After you, mate. I insist, after you. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
'Look at us being all polite. At a porn shoot.' | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
TYGER KNOCKS | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
-Hello, guys. -This is my friend Zach. -Nice to meet you, Brooklyn. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Very well, thank you. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
-Zach wants to be a porn star. -Do you? | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
-How long you wanted to do porn for? -Probably a year and a half. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Why do you want to do porn? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
I think it's the right career for me, to be honest with you. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
I love porn. I'm not going to lie. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
-I watched some of your videos, very nice by the way. -Did you now? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
-Did you enjoy them? -I had a very nice time, actually. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Basically, how much of it is performance | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
and how much of it is pleasure? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
It is performing. You're an actor, you're acting. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
But at the same time I genuinely love what I do. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Do you think it's a fair representation of what sex is | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
actually like? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. But I like sex like that. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
Would you say it's harder for boys to get into as opposed to the opposite sex? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
'Also known as girls.' | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Definitely. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
As long as you've got spit and you can take a cock, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
it's easy for girls. Really easy. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
Whereas guys, you have to be able to get up, come on time, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
fuck hard, have good size. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
It's a lot more difficult. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Help. Just pull it up. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
'I should probably explain the guy man handling Brooklyn is | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
'the male lead in this film, Monty.' | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
Lay down there. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
You step out of the shot. And then we can set the lights up. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
You want to be on that side. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
We want Brooklyn closest to us. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
She's here, I'm eating her pussy, I got to be this side. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
That's what I mean. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
How did you get your first audition? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
I started shooting the girls myself | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
and then they were saying you should do it. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
When I contacted some other producers that said give it a shot. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
I think porn's a bit of fun. It's a bit of fun, innit? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Can't take porn too seriously, I don't think. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
The story went that Brooklyn had been turned into a lusty | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
vampire by Monty. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
No, maybe she turned Monty into a lusty vampire. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Basically, one of them's dead and they're going to do some sex. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
I'm a bit more comfortable now seeing everyone, spoke to everyone. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
I feel a bit more like I definitely could do this now. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
OK, sorry. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
Then I come in down here. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Camera's rolling and action. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
I wonder if Zach's going to be able to keep himself from getting | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
a hard on? | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Maybe he will if he looks away every now and then. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
But I don't think I'd be able to be in there watching Brooklyn | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
having sex and not have a boner, I have to say. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Do you want a minute? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Cut for a minute. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
But not long into the shoot every man's greatest fear was realised. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Monty couldn't get it up. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-Do you want us to wait outside? -Just for a minute, please. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
'To be fair he is a vampire. There's not much blood down there.' | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
That's what I was afraid of. The whole pressure side. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
There's people in there so I can sort of understand where he's coming from. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
'I think we can all see where he's coming from, Zach.' | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
It's normal seeing that. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
Action. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
SHE GROANS | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
Can we get some water quick? | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
Was it sexy then? | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
I don't want to seem ungrateful to them | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
but I weren't turned on, weren't feeling horny. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
It was just like a normal thing. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Why didn't I get turned on? Why didn't I get a boner? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Now I'm thinking I've seen the struggle Monty has had to ask us | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
to leave to get it up. What happens to me now? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
I watched a woman have everything get done to her | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
and I didn't even get a wiggle. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
I don't think that's right in my opinion. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
'A bit like the strip club, watching porn being made had left Zach cold. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
'I hoped it would convince him to rethink his future plans. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
'But it wasn't just Zach who was having a rethink. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
'I was starting to question my own ideas too.' | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
When I started making this film I was sure | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
I had my own porn use in check. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
I thought I fancied a bash, click a few buttons. Watch some porn. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Never thought much of it. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Having met people like Zach and Rundeep, even Cindy, I can't | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
help think my own sex life has been informed by porn. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
I lost my virginity when I was 13 and I had been watching | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
porn for a fair few years before that. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
So it's bound to have some effect on the way I view sex. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Because I like oral sex and I kind of expect it | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
and I've come on girls' faces and it's not that out of the norm. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:13 | |
Maybe that's what looking at porn has done to me. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Maybe its put those ideas in my head. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Without me realising it. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
'The guys I met so far had all taken their porn habits to an extreme. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
'But what happens when watching porn goes way too far? | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
'I went to meet someone whose experience of this took | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
'a very sinister turn. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
'She didn't want to appear on camera but wanted others to hear her story.' | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
I met a boy at college and he was very interested in porn | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
and I always knew he was. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
We'd watch it together and I was never that fussed. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
At the time because everyone watched porn. It wasn't a big deal. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
But then the things he were watching were getting... | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
..more and more different to what I was used to. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
It went from simulation rape things to things that | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
I was a bit suspicious as to whether they were rape or not. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
And he liked to act out what he saw on the camera. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
Do you think he was acting? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:23 | |
I think that we both learned sex through porn. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:32 | |
It started with quite rough vaginal sex | 0:44:32 | 0:44:37 | |
and then it moved on to gagging and then it moved on to... | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
..anal sex without permission and | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
then onto very brutal, painful anal sex. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
I didn't feel it was my role to say anything. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
Cos that's what the women in front of me were doing. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
-Do you think he was kind of brainwashed? -It was constant. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
All the time. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
Four or five, maybe six times a day. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
Going to the bathrooms in between lessons to watch, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
texting each other links, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
watching it in lessons, watching it out of lessons, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
watching it on the bus, watching when we get home, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
watching it over dinner. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
It's constant. It was just what you did. It's what everyone was doing. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
And how do you think that accessibility is affecting | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
this generation and people younger than ourselves? | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
I think... | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
I think we're entering | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
into something that we've never experienced before. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
I think this generation is growing up... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
..with more knowledge | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
and more horrifying knowledge than anyone ever has before. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
He thought that's what normal sex was, so he was doing it. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
I thought that's what normal sex was, so I was doing it. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
It wasn't until many years later I realised that it was | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
a horrible experience that women should not be going through. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I don't feel like I'm his victim. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
I feel like I'm porn's victim. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
I think this has kind of been a real turning point | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
in the journey for me, actually, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:12 | |
because it does make me think that | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
although porn has been such a big part of my life, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
there has been a massive part of it | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
that has completely been hidden from me, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
maybe because I just was never told about it | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
or my parents never did anything like that, but... | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
..there's like this whole other dark world of porn... | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
..and it's really scary. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
I really have been scared by it, actually, today. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
I still wanted to know if porn felt a responsibility towards | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
its increasingly young audience and there was only one person to ask. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
What used to be... | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
I met my dad at a former porn studio, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
where he'd made many of his own films. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
Oh, wow, it's even worse... | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
It's even worse than it was. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
Right, so... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Oh, no, I can't believe it. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
-This is where you used to shoot your porn films? -Some of it, yeah. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
My God, up until last week, in fact, this was a fully functional, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:14 | |
completely done out lap dancing, er, pole dancing bar. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
-This is really weird. -It's like the Mary Celeste of the porn world. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
'Don't worry, I Googled it. Turns out it's an old boat.' | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
So, Dad, would you say that this studio | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
is like the metaphor for porn today? | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
Erm, yeah. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:33 | |
Good. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
I like that, yes. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
Absolutely. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
I mean, in a way, do you think in any way | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
it could be a good thing, because... | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
Ha! No, because I'm out of work! | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
Fair enough, but I met someone recently who... | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
She was with her boyfriend who was addicted to porn | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
and over time he got into more and more dark and violent types of porn | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
and, ultimately, he became addicted to rape porn. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
-You can't... -You can't say it's OK that someone can, you know, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
be in a relationship, they hadn't really had much sexual experience | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
-before they started watching porn and porn taught them sex. -Yeah. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
And because of that, they thought sex was rape. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Maybe if porn wasn't so fake, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
maybe if porn wasn't shot in a bedroom | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
that looks just like a porn bedroom | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
or wasn't in a dungeon or in a lap dancing club, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
do you think maybe if porn was actually what sex is like, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
-then maybe these problems wouldn't happen? -Well, yeah. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
At the end of the day, it is doing terrible things to young people, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
-whether it's their fault or not. -That's just where we are. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
That's just the way we are in the world. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
I don't think it's a particularly good thing either. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
Right or wrong, there is no question that porn is here to stay, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
but what would happen if we did stop? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
What would a porn-free life even look like? | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
I discovered an online community | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
filled with men from all over the world | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
who had decided that their porn habit had taken over. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
In an effort to reclaim their lives from the clutches of hardcore porn, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
they'd joined NoFap. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:03 | |
So, apparently, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
"fap" is the sound that your penis makes when you have a wank, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
so NoFap.com, "partake in the ultimate challenge". | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
Jesus, there is literally so many comments on here | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
from so many people who are claiming this thing is like a godsend. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
'And it got me thinking, I wonder what their meetings are like.' | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
Hello, everyone, and welcome to today's meeting. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Is there anyone new in today? | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
Go on, brother, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:28 | |
tell us your name. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
Erm, right, well, hi, everyone. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
I'm Tyger and I... | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
I'm a wanker. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
Rundeep's admission that he's tried | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
and failed in the past to give up porn made me wonder | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
if this community could be the way forward for him. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
So I took Rundeep to meet a prominent voice | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
from the NoFap community, Tobias. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
-How's it going? -It's Tyger, right? -Yeah, nice to meet you. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
And it's Rundeep? Pleased to meet you, I'm Tobias. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
-Come on in. -Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
What a nice little place. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
So how long is it that you've been "no-fapping" for now? | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
I haven't watched porn or masturbated for almost 550 days. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
I think that's tomorrow, actually. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
What benefits actually directly come from not watching porn? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
Well, that's a very in-depth topic and once again, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
it differs from person to person. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:22 | |
But if you're basically spending your whole... | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
Well, I wouldn't say your whole life watching porn, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
but if you watch far too much of it | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
instead of interacting with actual females, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
you tend to get a wrong idea of things like | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
what kind of things women like, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
you get a wrong idea of what women should look like, for example. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
For example, with porn stars, they're always wearing full make up, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
they might be surgically enhanced | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
and if you basically masturbate to that on a consistent basis, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:53 | |
that becomes your sexual taste, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
so when you're walking around and you're seeing girls who are just cute | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
and they've got natural bodies instead of enhanced ones, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
you might find them a little less attractive, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
because you're not getting off on that kind of image. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
You're getting off on a fake image instead. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
That's really interesting, actually. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
That's partially one of the reasons I brought Rundeep here, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
-because Rundeep watches quite a lot of pornography, don't you? -Yes. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:20 | |
And what you basically just said | 0:51:20 | 0:51:21 | |
I think kind of hits the nail on the head. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
I was probably watching it six times a day, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
masturbating three times, four times a day, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
about three to four hours a day and then it just went on and on. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
Then I was booking escorts, spending my money on them, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
and then it came to "What am I doing? | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
"What am I doing?", Yeah, "Has to be a porn star", | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
-a porn star experience escort like -BLEEP. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
Top-class escorts. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
What you see in movies, what you can't get outside, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
and my taste is as you described - | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
I want a porn star, not a normal person. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
Would you say you think Rundeep has been brainwashed? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Brainwashed? | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
That's a rather heavy term, really, but in a certain extent, yeah. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
I know if I see pictures of porn stars and how they usually look | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
when they're performing, I don't find that attractive any more. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
I'd rather have a girl-next-door type. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
And do you have any special techniques or pieces of advice | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
that you should give to Rundeep to try and help him | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
stay away from sexual thoughts? | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
Take up other activities. You said you do it out of boredom. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
I had that as well, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
so when you take it out of your life, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
what have you got to do? You've got to introduce lots of new things. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
Now, a lot of people think that if they take it out of their life, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
their life is going to be immediately much better, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
but you have to replace it with other things. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
That's definitely an essential thing. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
So as soon as these thoughts pop into my head, I'll just go... | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
That's my power stance. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
'The power stance felt a bit weird. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
'I wondered what else Tobias did to fill his porn-free time.' | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
I noticed on your YouTube video you said you started mountaineering | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
and playing the keyboard and stuff. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Yeah, it's a case of all of these things are stuff | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
that I couldn't consider myself doing before. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
So you could say you went from playing one organ | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
-to playing another organ. -I'll not do that joke. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
Sorry. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:20 | |
OK. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
'And that was our cue to leave.' Thanks again, Tobias. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
'Taxi!' | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
What did you think about what he has to say? | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
-Yeah... -'But if Tobias could do 500 days, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
'I wondered how long I could last.' | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
I was almost at the end of my porn journey, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
but there was one person I needed to see again. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
I've come to meet Rundeep and he told me to meet him at a boxing gym. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
I think it's quite a good sign that he's out boxing and stuff. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
It means he's not at home wanking. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
-Hey, buddy. -You all right? | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
-I'm excited. -You all right? | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
-How's it going? -Not too bad, yourself? | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
I'd heard from Rundeep that he'd found himself a new hobby | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
and I was keen to know if it had replaced his old one. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
But before I could find out, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
he challenged me to get in the ring too. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
Me? | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
A boxing ring? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
Can only mean one thing. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
Gratuitous Rocky montage. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
MUSIC: "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
Come on. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
Back, good. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
OK. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
Hands up after. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
-# It's the eye of the tiger... # -Good, there you go. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
# It's the thrill of the fight | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
# Rising up to the challenge of... # | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
OK, so I'm no Stallone, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
but could this really be a replacement for porn? | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
Rundeep, what was it that made you decide to give up porn? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
I think I just wanted to control my life. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Just wanted to change things, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
so now it's time to take control of it. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Has it been difficult, giving up porn? | 0:55:04 | 0:55:05 | |
To be fair, the first seven days, no. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
The eighth or ninth day, yeah. I thought I need to change. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
If I want to do it, I have to be determined. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
I get all my anger out here, I have fun and I enjoy what I do. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
It might just be a start, but knowing I'd played even a small part | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
in helping Rundeep made me feel like a champion. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
The truth is, I don't think anyone really knows | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
what the long-term effects will be of my generation's porn appetite. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
Perhaps we're all too quick to put porn into one category - | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
good or bad. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:39 | |
The truth is it's a lot more complicated than that. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
But one thing I have learned on this journey | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
is that we all need to talk about sex a lot more. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
It needs conversations like what we like, what we don't like, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
what we want from sex. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
They need to replace the porn manual that is shaping | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
so many young people's sex lives today. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
I'm not saying that I'm never going to watch porn again, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
but it definitely has made me think twice about how much I turn to it. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
MUSIC: "No You Girls" by Franz Ferdinand | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 |