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This is Albert Square. This is Walford. This is my manor.

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This is where I work every single day. And I love it.

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Danny Dyer is an actor most famous for his role as Mick Carter,

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the pub landlord of the Queen Vic in EastEnders.

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This is the Vic.

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The beautiful Vic.

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Here she is.

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My baby.

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Danny began acting while he was at school,

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and has gone on to work on countless TV and film productions.

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EastEnders comes along, they gave me this massive opportunity,

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and I knew I had to relish every second of it.

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People watching, the stereotype and all that,

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they're going to expect me to be related to criminals.

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Maybe I am related to a few criminals.

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You know, I want the opposite to that.

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Who knows where it's going to take me?

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I want to freak a few people out, you know,

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be related to aristocracy or something.

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Something completely left field to what I'm known for.

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You know, that's what I'd like. I'd like to freak a few people out.

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Danny was born in Custom House in the East End of London in 1977,

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and now lives in Essex with his family.

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Growing up, you either had to make people laugh,

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or you had to be able to hold your hands up...

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..or you'd get walked all over, to be fair.

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So I was a bit of a tearaway as a kid.

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I was heading, probably, for prison...

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..until I found my calling, which was acting.

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I'm from a broken family, if that's what you want to call it,

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in the respect that my mum and dad split up when I was quite young.

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But...

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It was just my mum that brought me up,

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which is where I get my feminine side from.

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My dad wasn't really around that much, really, as a father figure.

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So I've never really asked about what my ancestry is.

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I'd like to, maybe, discover

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there are some strong male relations to me,

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back in the day.

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Danny is off to meet his father, Tony Dyer,

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to find out about his paternal line.

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-East Londoners.

-Proper geezer.

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Danny Dyer.

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Old school. That's us, yeah.

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-Love you.

-Pleasure.

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THEY ALL SPEAK AT ONCE

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Watch. Push that one, whip it round, it's called a selfie.

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He's meeting his dad for a pint in an East End pub

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to see what he knows about his ancestors.

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Here he is, look, the old man.

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-All right, son?

-All right, Pop?

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-Have a sit down.

-What are you on?

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I'll have one of them, go on.

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Give us a couple of whatever the old man's drinking.

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Right, let's have a look at some of these smudges.

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That one, I remember well.

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Cos we had that up on our wall.

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One thing you and Mother did get right,

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-is you've got beautiful-looking kids, haven't you?

-That's it.

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-I've got some more here. Here we are.

-Let's have a look.

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Right, have a look at this.

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There's your nan and grandad and me.

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So there they are, the old man, look,

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there's me nan there. Nanny Joyce.

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Grandad John.

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With Nanny, what was her parents like?

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Well, I remember my grandad, but not my nan,

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because, obviously, she died.

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She died of kidney failure.

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How old was she, Nan, when her,

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-when her mother died?

-About nine years old.

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-Nine.

-Yeah.

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Never knew. Never knew.

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No. Granny there, and Auntie Silv.

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They brought my mother up.

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That was Sylvia, was it?

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She's beaut, and all, Sylvie, look.

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Absolutely stunning, but Mary Ann, she looks naughty.

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She looks like she could swing a right-hander, you know what I mean?

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-Yeah, yeah.

-It's a strong face.

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Fascinating...

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That's your great-great-grandmother,

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and that's your great-great-great-grandmother.

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Great-great-great-grandmother.

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On the back, look.

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1851.

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See, I love all this.

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-I love all this.

-A few years ago, son, weren't it?

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1851.

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Hard face, wasn't it?

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-Really hard.

-Albert and Anne Buttivant.

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My aunt Sylv said they ran the workhouse down in Mile End.

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Them two.

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They ran the workhouse?

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That's what I was told.

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So, anything going past

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-Albert and Ann...

-No, I don't know no further than that.

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You don't go no further than that?

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-No. No.

-This seems to be the route I'm going to be going down.

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Albert and Ann Buttivant.

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That's near here, then, isn't it?

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Mile End?

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Danny's learned that his paternal grandmother, Joyce, whose mother,

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Mary Ann Wallace, died young,

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was brought up by her grandmother, Mary Ann Buttivant.

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Danny knows nothing about the Buttivant family except that his

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father, Tony, has told him Albert and Ann,

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his great-great-great-grandparents,

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ran a workhouse in London's East end.

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For my dad to tell me about my nan losing her mum at nine...

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..you know, it's freaked my head out little bit. I didn't expect that.

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You know, I feel for her.

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I'm also intrigued about the fact

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that Ann and Albert Buttivant ran a workhouse.

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That must have been a real tough gig, that one.

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I think I want to learn a little bit more about that,

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and see where that takes me.

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Danny's going to the Tower Hamlets archive

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to meet Professor David Green

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who studied the records of the Mile End workhouse.

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So, Professor Green - good name, cool name, that.

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-Pro Green.

-Pro Green.

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Now this is a picture of Mary Ann

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who was my two times great-grandmother...

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who is the daughter of...

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..Ann Buttivant, and this is Albert Buttivant.

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So I learned that these two ran a workhouse, as far as I know.

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OK. I'm going to show you something from the workhouse records.

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-Let's have a look.

-So, 1878...

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1878, December the 2nd.

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And there is Ann Buttivant.

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So there's Ann.

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So there's Mary Ann...

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Who was born in 1877,

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so just a few months before they were admitted into the workhouse.

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So she's in there, the mother, with a very, very young baby,

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Mary Ann, entering the workhouse...

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-..as a pauper.

-As a pauper?

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-As a pauper.

-So she wasn't...

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-She didn't run the workhouse? She was just in it.

-That's right.

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David has scoured the Mile End workhouse records

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and compiled a list of all the Buttivant family admissions.

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What about Albert? All I'm seeing here, really,

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is, obviously, Mary Ann,

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Ann, Eliza, Emma, which is obviously her daughters, yeah?

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That's right.

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No Albert. No Albert knocking about

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at all. Then he comes in...

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-Oh, right, OK.

-They don't just go in once.

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They go in often.

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That's a kind of three-year period

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between 1878 and 1881 down here.

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They are just in and out the whole time, usually without Albert.

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He may be trying to find work outside.

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This would have been the poorest time of their life,

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because they had three young daughters, at least,

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because we see their names here.

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And he was the only breadwinner.

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It's either death...

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really, starve to death, your kids,

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especially if you've got a baby.

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They've got no choice.

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They committed no crime.

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Other than being poor, that's their crime. Having no money.

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So these are the bare-bones, life in the workhouse,

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but you get a really great feel, if you could see the buildings.

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The Mile End Hospital next door

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still uses the old workhouse buildings

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where Danny's great-great-grandmother

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spent most of her childhood.

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It's incredibly rare to see these buildings still standing.

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And your relative, Mary Ann Buttivant,

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when she was a baby,

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this is where she would have been.

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-That's the front.

-Oh, yeah.

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And you can see, it's actually not changed very much.

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That looks quite grand.

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You know, it's a hellhole.

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So, Mary Ann Buttivant, very little education, no connections,

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so, coming out of the workhouse,

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I don't know where your story's going to go from here

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but too often these people fell foul of the law.

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It might be a really good idea, perhaps,

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to look at the police records to see if they picked her up.

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Yeah. It's a strange feeling to think that...

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..that's the actual building Mary Ann,

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Ann and Albert actually knocked about in.

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SIREN WAILS

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Danny is going to search the criminal records

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to see if he can find any trace

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of Mary Ann Buttivant after she came out of the workhouse.

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-All right, Nev?

-Hello, Danny.

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-How are you, son?

-How are you, mate? You all right? Cup of tea?

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-Yeah, cup of tea. I'll be parked over here, yeah?

-No problem.

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I ain't got a clue what's going to come up.

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Hopefully nothing, and there's no crime involved.

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OK.

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Search all records.

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So I found her name.

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It's says she was a servant.

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So she did have a job.

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It says Mary Ann Buttivant...

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..bailed at police court.

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Her crime... "Having been delivered of a child

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"did by secret disposition of the dead body,

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"endeavour to conceal the birth thereof."

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So she pleaded guilty.

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Did not expect that. I thought it would be petty stealing.

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When you've held your own newborn in your arms,

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and it's such a vulnerable little weak, little thing...

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you know, it always makes me feel slightly sick...

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..the idea of a baby dying before it even gets started on this Earth.

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The idea of it being a baby,

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of all things, not babies.

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Oh!

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I feel that, you know,

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I'm starting this journey and I want to grow to love these people.

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I want to grow to love these people.

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You know, cos these are my blood.

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You know. I don't want to...

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..I don't want to find out stuff like this.

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I've come into this thinking, you know, like...

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..I'll be quite detached from it and, you know,

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it's just bits of paper I'm reading and stuff like that.

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But it actually goes a bit deeper than that.

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Danny has come to the Bishopsgate Institute

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for further help unravelling

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Mary Ann Buttivant's criminal record.

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He's here to meet historian Dr Daniel Grey.

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-Please, call me Daniel.

-Oh, good man.

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Right.

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My two times...

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..great grandmother...

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..Mary Ann, she's got a criminal record

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which we didn't know about and she pleaded guilty...

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..of endeavouring to conceal the birth of a child.

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So, I'm like... Now, she was 17

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-at this point.

-Yeah.

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So I don't know whether she was helping deliver someone else's baby,

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or whether it was her own child.

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I don't know if you can explain to me what it means.

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Well, I've found some documents

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which I'm hoping is going to...

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help you with that. So this is the copy of an indictment.

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"Mary Ann Buttivant.

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"Delivered of a certain female child...

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"..on the 24th day of February.." I can't read it.

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It's driving me mad.

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"In the county of London,

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"and within the jurisdiction of the said courts by certain secret

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"disposition of the dead body of the said child to whit,

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"by secretly placing the dead body of the said child in a pail."

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So that's a bucket. "And covering its dead body with ashes there with

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"intent to conceal the birth thereof."

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So what it's saying she's done is

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she's hidden the dead body of a baby,

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and that it's her baby, that she's the one who's given birth to it.

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I thought that might have been the case.

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So this is the death certificate.

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Daughter of Mary Ann Buttivant, unmarried,

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so what's really crucial here about cause of death is that it says,

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"Found dead, a haemorrhage from umbilical cord

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"from want of proper attention at birth."

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There is no evidence of violence.

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No-one's tried to hurt the baby in any way.

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What's happened is that shortly after giving birth,

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when the umbilical cord's been cut, no-one's tied it and that means that

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you can bleed to death very, very quickly.

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This is... I'm going to put it in my head.

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This is my family.

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You know, that she was 17.

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Maybe she didn't know she was pregnant.

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All of a sudden, this baby starts to come out,

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she then tries to deal with it herself.

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She doesn't know what to do.

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She gets it wrong.

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So... I can't imagine what that was like.

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And then, of course, she panics...

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..and puts the baby...

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..in a bucket, just...

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If there had been a midwife there,

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which most working class women can arrange to hire one,

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or at the very least, at the very least,

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a local woman who's friendly and helps people out informally because

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-she's given birth herself.

-Just someone.

-Someone.

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They would have known to tie the cord

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-and been able to do it quickly enough.

-Aged two minutes.

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Yeah.

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Concealment of birth was a common offence in the Victorian period.

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And women could be prosecuted for hiding the dead body of a baby.

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It was the jury's job to decide whether or not

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the child had been intentionally killed.

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What she could have got, and what they give women who they suspect of

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having deliberately killed their children -

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two years' imprisonment with hard labour.

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But this is basically a suspended sentence. No jail time.

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They seem to have decided this was very much a tragic accident.

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I know this might sound like a weird thing,

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but I'm slightly relieved.

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-I think relief is totally understandable.

-Yeah.

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Before she died in 1960, Mary Ann

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went on to have ten other children.

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Her youngest, Sylvie, is now in her 90s,

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and lives nearby in Poplar, in East London.

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I haven't seen her since I was, like, a baby, tiny, tiny.

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So it's been a long, long time.

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But I'm really happy that there's somebody

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that's, you know, still alive,

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that I can talk to,

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that gives me this access into this Victorian world.

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I'm also very nervous,

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cos I don't know what sort of reaction I'm going to get.

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Sylvie is cared for by her daughter, Iris, Danny's distant cousin.

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-Are you all right?

-How are you, babes, you all right?

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-You look lovely.

-You look beautiful and all.

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-Come and see Auntie Silv.

-Will do. Come on.

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Hello, my darling.

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What have you put me in?

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I know, I do apologise.

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Give us a kiss.

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-You all right?

-Yeah, I'm all right.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah, but I don't want to be a celebrity!

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SHE LAUGHS

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-No, nor do I, darling.

-It's too much like hard work.

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It is hard work, babe, believe you me.

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Believe you me. Don't worry about it.

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I didn't realise there was so much in it.

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Auntie Sylvie is your oldest living relative.

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You're still knocking about, beautiful little thing.

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And I'm 92.

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Well, I found out some stuff about your mother, Mary Ann,

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over the last couple of days.

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-My mum, yeah.

-I don't know how much you know.

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Some quite upsetting stuff.

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She was...a proper old East Ender.

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A proper old East Ender.

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I've known my mother, for people to come up and say to her,

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"Got a couple of shillings to lend us, old girl?"

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She says, "No, I've only got enough for myself,"

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but she's lent them her washing to take and pawn

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to get a couple of bob.

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She had a heart of gold, my mum.

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This is the only picture we've got of Mary Ann.

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-This is Mary Ann here.

-Right.

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For me, your mother, amazing woman.

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It's what I found out, I done a bit of research,

0:18:320:18:34

did you know that Mary Ann has got a criminal record?

0:18:340:18:37

-All right?

-Oh!

0:18:370:18:39

What it was... It was concealing a dead baby.

0:18:390:18:44

-Right?

-Oh.

0:18:440:18:46

So when she was 17, she got pregnant, she had a little girl...

0:18:460:18:51

and the little girl was two minutes old.

0:18:510:18:52

So it would have been your sister.

0:18:520:18:54

So, obviously, she was distraught, she didn't hurt the baby,

0:18:540:18:57

she didn't kill the baby, she just tried to do it on her own.

0:18:570:19:00

She obviously wasn't savvy enough to tie the cord.

0:19:000:19:03

Of course, the baby needs the cord to be tied,

0:19:030:19:06

cos they bleed out.

0:19:060:19:08

And, of course, she was so scared, she hid it in a bucket.

0:19:080:19:10

Yeah, hid it in a bucket, and someone found it and...

0:19:100:19:15

So, all that, the past, I wouldn't have known anything about,

0:19:150:19:18

because I was the youngest of the lot, of ten.

0:19:180:19:21

Of course. But you didn't know that you had another sister,

0:19:210:19:25

-that she'd...

-No-one, none of us knew.

0:19:250:19:28

-So she didn't say nothing about that.

-Not one of us knew.

0:19:280:19:31

No, she never, ever mentioned anything like that, did she?

0:19:310:19:34

-Well, I suppose, why would you?

-No-one ever knew about that.

0:19:340:19:37

That's what I'm saying. How do you? How do you approach it?

0:19:370:19:39

To even come through that

0:19:390:19:41

and still be a decent human being

0:19:410:19:43

-says a lot about the woman.

-Yeah.

0:19:430:19:44

It's funny she lost the baby at 17,

0:19:440:19:47

because in later life, she delivered all the babies.

0:19:470:19:51

She delivered me.

0:19:510:19:53

She delivered my sister.

0:19:530:19:55

She delivered all the babies in the flats,

0:19:550:19:57

and they used to call her Aunt Polly and say,

0:19:570:19:59

"Go and get Aunt Polly, quick, there's another baby coming."

0:19:590:20:03

So, yeah, she turned out to be like a midwife, really.

0:20:030:20:06

If a baby come quick like that,

0:20:060:20:08

-she would never touch a cord.

-No.

0:20:080:20:12

She'd wait till the nurse got there.

0:20:120:20:14

She would never do that herself, obviously, because...

0:20:140:20:18

That explains it, doesn't it?

0:20:180:20:19

She was thinking back to what happened to her, I suppose.

0:20:190:20:21

Of course. Absolutely.

0:20:210:20:23

So that really does make sense now.

0:20:230:20:25

Obviously, we focused on the Buttivant side of it.

0:20:270:20:30

Is there anything else you can tell me about Albert and Ann?

0:20:320:20:35

I was about nine when my grandparents died, I think.

0:20:350:20:39

And he always had that gentlemanly...

0:20:390:20:42

..bit about him. Right smart.

0:20:430:20:46

With his old fob watch.

0:20:460:20:49

He originated from French.

0:20:490:20:52

By all accounts, he came from a very rich family...

0:20:520:20:55

A very rich French family?

0:20:550:20:57

Rich French family.

0:20:570:20:58

His name was Buttivent.

0:20:580:21:01

Yeah. That's posh, isn't it, that?

0:21:010:21:03

-Buddivent.

-So there is some money involved in our family,

0:21:030:21:07

although we never saw none of it!

0:21:070:21:09

Going right back, because, I mean, we've never had any dough,

0:21:090:21:12

do you know what I mean? None of us.

0:21:120:21:14

So it's lovely seeing Sylv.

0:21:210:21:23

Very interested in Albert.

0:21:230:21:25

I've ordered his birth certificate cos I want to learn more about him.

0:21:250:21:28

I want to see... I want to see...

0:21:320:21:35

maybe, how much he was worth,

0:21:350:21:37

if it says any of that, how French he was.

0:21:370:21:40

Am I French? How French am I?

0:21:400:21:43

I know I look French and all that.

0:21:440:21:46

So...

0:21:490:21:50

Born the 4th of November, 1851.

0:21:530:21:58

And he was born...

0:22:010:22:03

Church Lane, Whitechapel.

0:22:030:22:05

That's strange. He was born in Whitechapel, so he's a Londoner.

0:22:070:22:12

Name of mother is Hannah Sarah.

0:22:120:22:14

Name of father - Charles.

0:22:150:22:19

OK. His occupation of his dad, Charles, is a commercial clerk.

0:22:190:22:25

That sounds like he could be still worth money.

0:22:250:22:28

There's nothing about being French here, though, other than the name.

0:22:280:22:33

It sounds cockney French in my eyes, Buttivant.

0:22:330:22:36

However you pronounce it. Bootivant.

0:22:360:22:39

I'd say bu-a-vant. There's no T's in it.

0:22:390:22:42

So I need to find out more, really.

0:22:450:22:47

Interesting.

0:22:500:22:51

I feel like I've come to a bit of a dead end.

0:23:090:23:12

I don't really know what to do.

0:23:120:23:14

I don't really know what...

0:23:140:23:17

sort of route to go down.

0:23:170:23:19

I'm confused by it all and I don't know what to do.

0:23:190:23:21

I just hope that this journey gets a little bit more jolly,

0:23:260:23:30

to be honest.

0:23:300:23:33

Danny's come to meet expert genealogist Laura Berry

0:23:330:23:36

who's agreed to work on his family tree

0:23:360:23:39

to see if she can help him solve the French mystery.

0:23:390:23:42

So, Laura, my four times

0:23:420:23:43

great-grandfather, Charles Buttivant...

0:23:430:23:47

I was led to believe was French.

0:23:470:23:50

Well, I have done a bit of research,

0:23:500:23:52

-as you can see from this family tree here.

-OK.

0:23:520:23:56

And you're at the bottom,

0:23:560:23:57

and then we've got your four times great-grandfather,

0:23:570:24:00

Charles Buttivant is here.

0:24:000:24:02

-Here he is.

-I've managed to go back a little bit further,

0:24:020:24:05

but I'm afraid I haven't been able to find any French ancestry

0:24:050:24:08

in these immediate generations here.

0:24:080:24:10

Although, I have managed to find something quite interesting

0:24:110:24:15

going back through Charles' mother,

0:24:150:24:18

Ann Gosnold, who came from a really prominent Suffolk family.

0:24:180:24:22

And if you work up the tree to Robert Gosnold,

0:24:220:24:28

who is your ten times great-grandfather.

0:24:280:24:29

Ten times great...

0:24:290:24:31

I love this. This is...

0:24:310:24:32

Ten times great-grandfather, Robert Gosnold.

0:24:320:24:36

-Wow!

-And he was born in 1611 and died in 1658.

0:24:360:24:42

And, actually, on his baptism record, dating from 1611,

0:24:420:24:47

it was written in Latin, it is quite difficult to read, but there is...

0:24:470:24:50

-I can't read Latin!

-It's all right. I've not got it.

-Oh, good.

0:24:500:24:53

But he...

0:24:530:24:55

It does say that his father, Robert Gosnold, was an armiger.

0:24:550:24:59

I don't know if that phrase means anything to you.

0:24:590:25:01

I wish I was intelligent enough to say yes, but no, it doesn't.

0:25:020:25:06

I don't know what it means. What does it mean?

0:25:060:25:08

It's interesting because it suggests

0:25:080:25:10

that he was part of the landed gentry,

0:25:100:25:12

and that he had a coat of arms.

0:25:120:25:14

We've got a picture of it here.

0:25:140:25:15

Wow! Finally, some money in my family.

0:25:160:25:20

I've been led to believe there was money in my family.

0:25:210:25:24

And it's been the complete opposite so far.

0:25:240:25:27

Shame it was in the 17th century.

0:25:270:25:31

So Robert's my man!

0:25:310:25:33

OK.

0:25:330:25:34

I'm hoping he's cake-o bake-o.

0:25:350:25:37

And that, in cockney, sort of means really rich.

0:25:370:25:39

-Oh.

-Yeah, like, caked.

0:25:390:25:42

That would be quite exciting.

0:25:420:25:44

I need to find out more about this geezer, don't I?

0:25:460:25:49

I'm hoping he's a proper geezer, like, proper.

0:25:490:25:52

What's interesting about your ten times great-grandfather's dates,

0:25:520:25:56

you know, he was alive in the 1640s and 1650s.

0:25:560:26:00

He would have been an adult during the English Civil War.

0:26:000:26:03

And the landed gentry did tend to

0:26:030:26:04

play quite prominent roles in the English Civil War.

0:26:040:26:07

So I think he would be

0:26:070:26:08

a really interesting person to investigate a bit further.

0:26:080:26:11

Robert Gosnold.

0:26:110:26:12

Sounds posh.

0:26:140:26:15

I'm very excited. Robert Gosnold...

0:26:240:26:27

possibly could have fought in the English Civil War.

0:26:270:26:30

And...

0:26:320:26:33

and it's exciting, because...

0:26:330:26:35

..you know, I want a real man.

0:26:360:26:38

I want a bit of... I want a leader of men in my life.

0:26:380:26:41

And I need some good news.

0:26:410:26:43

Because I've had some pretty heavy stuff up until this point.

0:26:430:26:47

Danny has travelled to Oxford to meet Professor Mark Stoyle,

0:26:590:27:03

a Civil War historian.

0:27:030:27:05

I know this is a very old pub, the oldest pub in Oxford, but why,

0:27:050:27:08

why are we here?

0:27:080:27:10

Well, Oxford, at this time, is absolutely rammed with people,

0:27:100:27:14

so there are the normal townsfolk,

0:27:140:27:16

-and there are also thousands of soldiers.

-Yeah.

0:27:160:27:18

So we can be quite certain

0:27:180:27:19

this pub would have had soldiers billeted in it.

0:27:190:27:22

I know a certain amount about Robert Gosnold.

0:27:220:27:24

And he was in the English Civil War.

0:27:240:27:26

-He was?

-He himself might even have popped into this pub.

0:27:260:27:29

He would certainly have walked...

0:27:290:27:30

Of course he would have popped into this pub!

0:27:300:27:32

Of course he was in here.

0:27:320:27:34

Yeah!

0:27:340:27:35

-I love that.

-So this is the kind of ambience...

0:27:350:27:37

That gives me a little shiver up the spine.

0:27:370:27:40

It does. To think that, you know,

0:27:400:27:42

he could have been knocking about in here.

0:27:420:27:44

Danny's ancestor,

0:27:460:27:48

Colonel Robert Gosnold, fought in the bloody English Civil War,

0:27:480:27:52

which began in 1642 and saw nearly 200,000 people lose their lives.

0:27:520:27:59

Supporters of King Charles I, the Royalists,

0:27:590:28:02

were pitted against the parliamentarians.

0:28:020:28:05

After a number of defeats, the King's army were on the run,

0:28:050:28:08

and finally retreated to Oxford in 1646.

0:28:080:28:11

By this stage, only the most loyal troops

0:28:120:28:15

were still standing by Charles I.

0:28:150:28:17

And Robert Gosnold was among them.

0:28:170:28:20

And the fact that he's decided to put himself into Oxford,

0:28:200:28:24

and defend the King's capital, even when things are going so badly for

0:28:240:28:27

Charles, shows that he is, sort of, an uber Royalist,

0:28:270:28:30

an uber Cavalier, if you like.

0:28:300:28:32

-Well, I'm not really a royalist.

-Yeah.

0:28:320:28:35

None of my family are, really.

0:28:350:28:36

I don't know why I'm not a royalist.

0:28:360:28:38

But now I want to be a royalist, for some reason.

0:28:380:28:40

I feel like I should be.

0:28:400:28:41

This is an image of Oxford as it was at the time.

0:28:410:28:45

It shows you the incredible earthworks

0:28:450:28:46

that the Royalists had built around it,

0:28:460:28:49

and this fortress was about to be attacked

0:28:490:28:53

by the strongest army in the British Isles.

0:28:530:28:55

-Outnumbered completely.

-Completely.

0:28:550:28:57

These are the parliamentarian troops.

0:28:570:28:59

Look at them all there. Just waiting to pounce.

0:28:590:29:02

And Robert is in there somewhere.

0:29:020:29:04

-He's probably in here!

-Yeah.

0:29:040:29:06

Oh, I love it.

0:29:060:29:07

I love it. I love it.

0:29:070:29:09

As the parliamentarians advanced ever closer,

0:29:090:29:13

the King disguised himself

0:29:130:29:15

and escaped Oxford in April 1646.

0:29:150:29:18

He was eventually arrested and executed.

0:29:180:29:22

Charles left behind his loyal troops,

0:29:220:29:25

who were forced to negotiate the final surrender.

0:29:250:29:29

Even at this point, when all is clearly lost, Robert himself,

0:29:290:29:32

and his close comrades, are not keen to surrender.

0:29:320:29:35

Even though there's virtually no hope left to them,

0:29:350:29:38

they still want to hold out.

0:29:380:29:40

-He was game as you like.

-Yeah.

0:29:400:29:42

He's taking royalism about as far as it can be taken.

0:29:420:29:46

The loyalty that these men are showing is incredible, really.

0:29:460:29:49

We've definitely got that in our family, you know?

0:29:490:29:51

It's about heart and spirit.

0:29:510:29:53

-This seems to be a recurring theme for me.

-Yeah.

0:29:530:29:56

You know, battling against the odds, and still coming out the other side.

0:29:560:30:00

-He's a force, mate.

-Mm.

-He's a powerful, powerful man.

0:30:000:30:03

And I'm hopelessly in love with him.

0:30:050:30:07

MARK LAUGHS

0:30:070:30:08

So, Robert Gosnold is my hero at this point.

0:30:250:30:29

What a man. Erm...

0:30:290:30:31

King Charles I obviously had his head chopped off,

0:30:310:30:34

but what happened to Robert?

0:30:340:30:36

You know, what was his fate?

0:30:360:30:38

That's what I'm intrigued about.

0:30:380:30:40

Danny has come to Robert Gosnold's village, Otley in Suffolk,

0:30:400:30:45

to meet local historian Stephen Potts.

0:30:450:30:48

Stephen.

0:30:500:30:52

-Danny.

-How are you?

0:30:520:30:53

-I'm very well. Pleased to meet you.

-Pleasure, pleasure.

0:30:530:30:57

-Welcome to Otley.

-Thank you.

0:30:570:30:58

So, Stephen, Robert Gosnold.

0:30:580:31:01

What a man.

0:31:010:31:02

Absolutely fascinated by this character.

0:31:020:31:05

Erm, I've learned a bit about him.

0:31:050:31:07

Is there any more you can tell me about him?

0:31:070:31:10

Well, a good place to start is to come here and to Otley Hall

0:31:100:31:15

and see exactly where he lived.

0:31:150:31:18

Oh, wow.

0:31:180:31:20

So this is Robert Gosnold's house.

0:31:210:31:24

I'm not ready for this, I'm really not ready for this.

0:31:240:31:27

Oh, wow.

0:31:270:31:29

This is the most beautiful house I've ever seen, I think.

0:31:290:31:32

It's one of the finest

0:31:320:31:34

Grade I listed houses in the whole of the county.

0:31:340:31:38

-Yeah...

-This is up there. Is, er...

0:31:380:31:40

Is that his, one of his peacocks, or...?

0:31:400:31:43

STEPHEN LAUGHS

0:31:430:31:45

Um, do they bite, peacocks, by the way?

0:31:450:31:47

I don't think so.

0:31:470:31:49

PEACOCK SQUAWKS IN BACKGROUND

0:31:490:31:50

I know that Robert was an uber royalist,

0:31:500:31:53

I know he was on the losing side in the war.

0:31:530:31:55

We all know King Charles I's fate...

0:31:550:31:58

I don't know what happened to Robert. Was he imprisoned?

0:31:590:32:02

I mean...

0:32:020:32:04

No, they didn't imprison the royalists,

0:32:040:32:08

but they did exploit them.

0:32:080:32:10

So they would've taken money from their estates during the Civil War,

0:32:100:32:15

and they set up a system whereby they could fine them,

0:32:150:32:21

-because what they needed more than anything else was money.

-Yeah.

0:32:210:32:24

There's lots of documentation

0:32:240:32:27

that still exists that shows what happened to him.

0:32:270:32:31

What date is it?

0:32:310:32:32

This is dated... 1st of September 1646,

0:32:320:32:36

so this is just a few months after the war has ended.

0:32:360:32:40

"To the honourable committee at Goldsmiths Hall

0:32:400:32:43

"for compositions with delinquents."

0:32:430:32:47

-Do you know what that means?

-No.

0:32:470:32:49

-So anybody who was a royalist and supported Charles...

-Mm-hm?

0:32:490:32:52

..was a delinquent.

0:32:520:32:54

-Right, OK.

-We've got the transcript there.

0:32:540:32:57

Ah, this is more a bit of me, OK.

0:32:570:32:59

"He prayes a direction to the Committee in the Country

0:32:590:33:04

"to pay the arrears...

0:33:040:33:07

"of theis rents

0:33:070:33:09

"and annuityes for the Tyme they have received the rents

0:33:090:33:14

"and profits of his Lands.

0:33:140:33:16

"That he is indebted £1,200..."

0:33:160:33:21

Wow.

0:33:210:33:22

"That his howses are decayed and spoiled

0:33:220:33:26

"to the value of £500

0:33:260:33:29

"and his Woods cutt downe and wasted to the value of a £1,000.

0:33:290:33:36

"Fyne is £600."

0:33:360:33:38

What are we talking in today's money?

0:33:380:33:41

Difficult to put it in terms of today's money,

0:33:410:33:44

but we're certainly talking about the equivalent

0:33:440:33:47

of several hundred thousand pounds.

0:33:470:33:49

So they've hit him for severe readies,

0:33:500:33:53

as you'd say in the East London.

0:33:530:33:54

-Severe readies.

-Severe readies, yeah.

0:33:540:33:57

-I like the fact you've just said that.

-This would have hurt him

0:33:570:34:00

-tremendously.

-And they knew he'd come from wealth, so they've hit him hard, haven't they?

0:34:000:34:04

Yes, they want the money.

0:34:040:34:06

But he ends up mortgaging, remortgaging and so on.

0:34:060:34:10

And finally, after his death...

0:34:100:34:12

-Mm.

-..his heirs have no choice but to sell the land on.

0:34:120:34:18

So they basically just lost... everything, really.

0:34:190:34:23

Because they were royalists.

0:34:230:34:26

-Yeah.

-Just snatched away from them.

0:34:260:34:29

-Yeah.

-All this.

0:34:290:34:30

This beauty.

0:34:320:34:33

So, at this point,

0:34:330:34:36

the Gosnolds are no longer landed gentry.

0:34:360:34:40

They have no land.

0:34:400:34:41

They go down the social scale.

0:34:410:34:43

And no hope of ever getting back to where they were before.

0:34:430:34:48

Yeah.

0:34:480:34:49

I knew it was all too good to be true.

0:34:490:34:52

There's never really been any money in my family at all.

0:34:520:34:56

You know.

0:34:560:34:57

Don't despair.

0:34:570:34:58

-Robert's mother...

-Mm-hm.

-So, your Colonel Robert's mother,

0:34:580:35:03

was a Tollemache.

0:35:030:35:05

-A what?

-A Tollemache, Ann Tollemache.

0:35:050:35:08

And the Tollemache family are still a landowning family.

0:35:080:35:11

In fact, in the very next village to here to this day.

0:35:110:35:16

Shall we go to the next village?

0:35:160:35:17

And, er...

0:35:170:35:19

-cause some chaos?

-STEVE LAUGHS

0:35:190:35:22

Danny has discovered that the Gosnolds

0:35:260:35:29

are related to the Tollemache family via his 11 times

0:35:290:35:32

great-grandmother Anne Tollemache,

0:35:320:35:35

the mother of Colonel Robert Gosnold.

0:35:350:35:38

Danny's going to meet his distant relative,

0:35:380:35:40

the current Lord Tollemache.

0:35:400:35:42

So, I'm at Helmingham Hall...

0:35:420:35:45

owned by the Tollemaches.

0:35:450:35:48

I've no idea...

0:35:490:35:51

about the Tollemaches.

0:35:510:35:53

I'm getting a rough idea as I drive down.

0:35:550:35:57

The size of this gaffe's ridiculous.

0:36:010:36:03

What?

0:36:060:36:07

Wow.

0:36:070:36:09

There's a geezer waiting for me. I'm assuming he's my relative.

0:36:160:36:20

-Hello, Danny?

-Hello, young man.

0:36:210:36:22

-Very nice to meet you.

-Absolute pleasure, yeah.

0:36:220:36:25

-Pleasure, er..

-Welcome to Helmingham.

0:36:250:36:27

What a gaffe you've got here!

0:36:270:36:29

Well, I've put the drawbridge down for you.

0:36:300:36:32

-Can I drive over it?

-You certainly can.

-Hero.

0:36:320:36:35

-The geezer's got a drawbridge.

-BLEEP

-hell!

0:36:360:36:39

He has and all.

0:36:390:36:41

Oh, I don't think I'm going to get over this, babe, to be honest.

0:36:410:36:43

I can't believe this, honestly. I cannot believe it.

0:36:430:36:46

How can these people be my relatives?

0:36:460:36:49

And why don't I know about this?

0:36:490:36:50

Right.

0:36:530:36:55

Let's, er...

0:36:550:36:57

Let's go and have a bit of bunny with the lord.

0:36:570:37:00

Oh...

0:37:000:37:01

So, um, you're a lord.

0:37:030:37:06

Er, can I call you Tim?

0:37:060:37:08

-You can call me Tim.

-As we're related.

0:37:080:37:11

Very much so.

0:37:110:37:12

So, we're related through, er, the Gosnolds.

0:37:120:37:16

We are.

0:37:160:37:18

And I believe,

0:37:180:37:19

you being a Tollemache,

0:37:190:37:23

my 11 times great-grandmother was Anne Tollemache.

0:37:230:37:26

-Is that right?

-That's absolutely right, yes.

-OK.

0:37:260:37:29

It was Anne who was the daughter of Sir Lionel Tollemache

0:37:290:37:33

and his wife, Catherine. And Anne was born and bred here.

0:37:330:37:37

I mean, this has took my breath away. This is...

0:37:370:37:39

This is another level of house.

0:37:390:37:41

Is it a house? I mean, it's got a moat.

0:37:410:37:43

-I'm stunned.

-Yeah, no... It was built, we came here 500 years ago

0:37:430:37:48

and built Helmingham, as it stands today,

0:37:480:37:51

with its moat and its drawbridge.

0:37:510:37:53

I'll tell you what, the Helmingham church is just over there.

0:37:530:37:55

-OK.

-And we've got some monuments to the many, many Tollemaches there.

0:37:550:38:00

Including Anne's father, Lionel Tollemache.

0:38:000:38:03

Let's do it, Tim, let's do it.

0:38:030:38:06

Well, there are a lot of monuments in this church,

0:38:060:38:09

but the one I want you to see is up here.

0:38:090:38:11

-OK.

-Um...

0:38:110:38:13

And it is actually the very, very top one,

0:38:130:38:16

made by Lionel Tollemache, the one at the top.

0:38:160:38:20

So that would be my 12 times great grandfather?

0:38:200:38:26

That's right.

0:38:260:38:27

-Wow!

-So, Lionel Tollemache

0:38:310:38:34

-and then his father...

-Mm-hm.

0:38:340:38:37

..grandfather, and great-grandfather.

0:38:370:38:40

And each one of them has got a little rhyme, or couplet,

0:38:400:38:44

describing what they did in life. I don't know whether you can read it.

0:38:440:38:47

-You probably can't...

-Not from here, no, I don't think so,

0:38:470:38:50

-I think I'll struggle with that.

-So I've got it written down there.

0:38:500:38:53

"Here with his father sleeps Sir Lionel, knight baronet,

0:38:550:39:00

"all honours worthy well, happy in Soul, in Body, Goods and Name.

0:39:000:39:07

"Happy in wedlock with a noble dame.

0:39:070:39:11

"Lord Cromwell's daughter..."

0:39:110:39:15

Lord Cromwell's daughter?

0:39:150:39:17

-Hold on a minute, hold on a minute. So...

-So...

0:39:170:39:20

Lionel's Tollemache's wife, Catherine Cromwell,

0:39:200:39:25

was the great granddaughter of Thomas Cromwell,

0:39:250:39:30

and he was Henry VIII's great statesman,

0:39:300:39:33

-and supporter and courtier.

-Wow.

0:39:330:39:35

Wow.

0:39:370:39:39

But I've got a picture of Catherine here...

0:39:390:39:42

One of the portraits which hangs in Helmingham Hall.

0:39:420:39:45

And that is, that is her.

0:39:450:39:47

Our mutual ancestor.

0:39:490:39:51

Ah...

0:39:510:39:52

I'm just going to, er, I'm going to put the lips on her, Tim.

0:39:540:39:57

-I'm going to put the lips...

-TIM LAUGHS

0:39:570:39:59

She's my family. She's my family.

0:39:590:40:04

There she is. See the resemblance?

0:40:040:40:06

Got it?

0:40:060:40:08

Eh? Yeah?

0:40:080:40:10

DANNY LAUGHS

0:40:100:40:12

I love it! I love it!

0:40:120:40:15

MUSIC DROWNS SPEECH

0:40:190:40:22

'So, Danny Dyer

0:40:220:40:24

'is a direct descendant of Thomas Cromwell.'

0:40:240:40:28

I can't believe it.

0:40:280:40:30

I... I don't know what to say.

0:40:300:40:33

I'll say it again, I am a direct descendant of Thomas Cromwell.

0:40:340:40:40

Danny's learned that via his 12 times great grandmother,

0:40:540:40:58

Catherine Cromwell,

0:40:580:40:59

he's descended from Thomas Cromwell,

0:40:590:41:01

King Henry VIII's right-hand man.

0:41:010:41:04

So he's heading back to London

0:41:050:41:07

to find out more about his famous ancestor.

0:41:070:41:09

Just about to pull into the gaffe now.

0:41:090:41:12

Hampton Court Palace, of course. It's Hampton Court Palace.

0:41:120:41:15

My 15 times great-grandfather...

0:41:170:41:20

Yeah.

0:41:210:41:23

He's come to meet Thomas Cromwell's biographer, Tracy Borman.

0:41:280:41:32

Welcome to Hampton Court.

0:41:320:41:34

-Pleasure.

-Well, congratulations.

0:41:340:41:36

-Yeah.

-You're related to the most controversial man

0:41:360:41:38

in British history.

0:41:380:41:40

Oh, the most controversial?

0:41:400:41:41

I think so, yeah.

0:41:410:41:43

In recent times we've grown to love Thomas Cromwell,

0:41:430:41:46

but he was always the villain of history.

0:41:460:41:48

-Was he?

-The man you love to hate.

0:41:480:41:50

-So, he was a bit like Marmite, was he?

-Exactly.

0:41:500:41:53

So this is the sort of place where Cromwell would've been,

0:41:530:41:56

literally, burning the midnight oil as he was working for the King.

0:41:560:42:00

This is the Great Hall,

0:42:000:42:03

the centrepiece of Henry VIII's Palace.

0:42:030:42:05

Built to impress, as you can see.

0:42:050:42:08

-DANNY EXHALES DEEPLY

-Yeah.

0:42:100:42:12

You'd have a right rave in here, couldn't you, babe, eh?

0:42:120:42:15

-TRACY LAUGHS

-And that's exactly what they did.

0:42:150:42:17

And Cromwell would've been at quite a few of them.

0:42:170:42:20

-Would you like to see a picture?

-I'd love to see a smudge of him.

0:42:200:42:23

Well, this was painted by the most famous portrait painter of the age,

0:42:230:42:28

um, Holbein.

0:42:280:42:29

And I think, actually, there is more than a passing resemblance.

0:42:290:42:32

I have to say, yeah.

0:42:320:42:34

I do. I think around the nose.

0:42:340:42:36

If you were to look a little bit...

0:42:360:42:38

The puffy eyes, yeah, I get that bit. Yeah, yeah.

0:42:380:42:41

What do you think of him?

0:42:410:42:42

You can tell he liked his grub, as well.

0:42:420:42:44

-TRACY LAUGHS

-We've got the jowls.

-Yeah.

0:42:440:42:46

-The Cromwell jowls.

-The Cromwell jowls, I'm going to call it now.

0:42:460:42:49

Yeah. That man, I've got his blood running through my veins.

0:42:490:42:55

It excites me a lot,

0:42:550:42:56

although I don't know that much about him, so...

0:42:560:42:59

Well, this portrait's got a loss to answer for,

0:42:590:43:02

because it's, I think, largely due to this

0:43:020:43:05

that people see him as a villain.

0:43:050:43:07

-Cos he does look...

-He is looking pretty sinister there, isn't he?

0:43:070:43:10

Looking at somebody like he's about to maybe have them executed.

0:43:100:43:14

You wouldn't mess with him, would you?

0:43:140:43:17

Certainly not, no. Certainly not.

0:43:170:43:19

He wasn't of noble birth.

0:43:190:43:21

He had, er, very humble origins.

0:43:210:43:24

He was born in about 1485 in Putney.

0:43:240:43:27

Now, obviously today, Putney is a nice part of London.

0:43:270:43:30

It wasn't in the late 15th century when Cromwell was born.

0:43:300:43:34

Not the sort of place you'd want to find yourself after dark.

0:43:340:43:38

It was full of cut-throats and criminals,

0:43:380:43:41

and one of the worst of all was Cromwell's father, Walter.

0:43:410:43:45

He was a blacksmith and he was a brewer.

0:43:450:43:48

He had his own pub

0:43:480:43:49

and he was always in trouble with the law.

0:43:490:43:52

So he's managed this unbelievable rise from where he came from...

0:43:520:43:57

Yeah.

0:43:570:43:59

-..to be sitting with Henry, from the slums...

-Yeah.

-..to there.

0:43:590:44:04

I mean, mine's a much more small comparison,

0:44:040:44:08

but I'm from the slums, if you like...

0:44:080:44:12

99% of the people at Henry's court

0:44:120:44:14

were from wealthy backgrounds.

0:44:140:44:16

He was extraordinary.

0:44:160:44:17

You know, he was an absolute phenomenon.

0:44:170:44:19

-It's ridiculous is what it is.

-It is.

0:44:190:44:23

I never thought I'd meet anybody who's related to Thomas Cromwell.

0:44:230:44:25

-That's extraordinary.

-HE LAUGHS

0:44:250:44:28

Historians have speculated,

0:44:280:44:30

what was it about this blacksmith's son

0:44:300:44:33

that appealed to Henry?

0:44:330:44:35

And certainly Henry recognised Cromwell's great talent.

0:44:350:44:39

He was, by this time...

0:44:390:44:40

He was a self-taught lawyer by this time.

0:44:400:44:43

He was an exceptionally sharp man.

0:44:430:44:46

I've always thought there was more to it than that.

0:44:460:44:50

I think what appealed to Henry about Cromwell, he was cheeky.

0:44:500:44:55

He would make the king laugh, and Henry loved that...

0:44:550:44:59

Would you say it was a difficult thing,

0:44:590:45:00

-to make the king laugh?

-I think, yeah.

0:45:000:45:02

And then if you overstepped the mark with the king, you're brown bread.

0:45:020:45:05

He was cheeky. He was known to be funny.

0:45:050:45:08

He would make even his enemies laugh.

0:45:080:45:11

But it's not all plain sailing between Henry and Cromwell.

0:45:110:45:15

They're two quite big personalities,

0:45:150:45:17

-so you can imagine the clash.

-Right.

0:45:170:45:19

And we've got a letter here, written by a courtier.

0:45:190:45:24

"So the king benave of him twice a week,

0:45:240:45:27

"and sometimes knock him well about the pate."

0:45:270:45:31

That's the head, yeah.

0:45:310:45:32

"And yet when he have been well pummelled about the head

0:45:320:45:37

"and shaken up as it were a dog,

0:45:370:45:41

"he will come out into the great chamber

0:45:410:45:44

"shaking of the bush with as merry a countenance

0:45:440:45:49

"as though he might rule all the roost."

0:45:490:45:52

-Oh, I see. So, he takes a clumping.

-Yeah.

-And he just goes like that...

0:45:520:45:56

-Exactly.

-Picks himself up, walks out as if he owns the manor.

0:45:560:46:00

-Yeah.

-That's absolutely it.

0:46:000:46:02

-It's like, "So what? I took a beating."

-Yeah.

0:46:020:46:04

-He's proving to everyone, he is the alpha male.

-Absolutely.

0:46:040:46:07

And it's funny you should say that about power, you know.

0:46:070:46:11

By the middle of the 1530s,

0:46:110:46:14

Cromwell is the most powerful man in England.

0:46:140:46:17

There's only the king who is above him.

0:46:170:46:20

He's Henry VIII's chief minister. He's running the show.

0:46:200:46:24

-This is ridiculous.

-He is in charge of everything.

0:46:240:46:29

And then the sort of highest that he rises is in 1540,

0:46:290:46:33

and I think you'll like this.

0:46:330:46:35

He is made Earl of Essex.

0:46:350:46:38

And this is his heraldry as the Earl of Essex.

0:46:380:46:44

Oh!

0:46:440:46:46

-Which is...which is where I live.

-Mm-hm.

0:46:460:46:52

So, in a way, I'm sort of the Earl of Essex?

0:46:520:46:57

Yeah. By descent.

0:46:570:46:59

I think it's going to change me as a human being.

0:46:590:47:01

-Not in a bad way.

-Yeah.

-But in a way of thinking.

0:47:010:47:04

Yeah, yeah. Definitely.

0:47:040:47:07

-In a positive way.

-Yeah, I can imagine.

0:47:070:47:10

It's certainly going to give me more confidence.

0:47:100:47:12

So, Cromwell, at this point of his career,

0:47:120:47:15

seems utterly invincible,

0:47:150:47:17

but I'm afraid things are about to go very horribly wrong.

0:47:170:47:22

Of course they are. Of course they are.

0:47:220:47:25

I suppose he's getting very cocky.

0:47:250:47:27

He's starting to push it too far, maybe, all of these noblemen,

0:47:270:47:30

and well-educated people,

0:47:300:47:33

and he's starting to rub their nose in it, isn't he?

0:47:330:47:35

Absolutely. And I'm afraid he's about to pay.

0:47:350:47:39

Tracy has led Danny to the Tower of London.

0:47:460:47:49

-So, you're taking me into a dungeon, are you?

-I'm afraid so.

0:47:490:47:52

Which is where, in June 1540,

0:47:520:47:55

Danny's 15-times great-grandfather, Thomas Cromwell,

0:47:550:47:59

was brought on charges of treason and heresy.

0:47:590:48:02

It was really a coup by his enemies at court,

0:48:020:48:05

particularly the Duke of Norfolk.

0:48:050:48:07

-He'd always hated this baseborn boy from Putney.

-Yeah.

0:48:070:48:11

And he managed to convince Henry VIII

0:48:110:48:14

that Cromwell was plotting treason,

0:48:140:48:16

plotting to supplant the king himself

0:48:160:48:19

to marry the King's daughter, Mary, and the charges were ridiculous.

0:48:190:48:24

You know, Cromwell couldn't get into Henry's head, no?

0:48:240:48:26

Cos he was quite clever at getting into his head,

0:48:260:48:28

and all of a sudden he couldn't any more.

0:48:280:48:31

His only chance of survival was to persuade Henry

0:48:310:48:35

to change his mind.

0:48:350:48:37

He wrote three letters to Henry

0:48:370:48:39

and we have a copy of the last letter here.

0:48:390:48:43

"Beseech, your most humble Your Grace,

0:48:430:48:45

"to pardon this, my rude writing,

0:48:450:48:49

"and to consider that I am a most woeful prisoner,

0:48:490:48:53

"ready to take the death when it shall please God

0:48:530:48:56

"and Your Majesty.

0:48:560:48:59

"Most gracious prynce,

0:48:590:49:01

"I cry for mercy, mercy, mercy."

0:49:010:49:07

So...

0:49:070:49:08

..my 15-times great-grandfather really is desperate now.

0:49:110:49:18

On the morning of the 28th of July 1540

0:49:180:49:22

Thomas Cromwell was taken from his cell.

0:49:220:49:25

Private executions within the walls of the tower

0:49:250:49:28

were reserved for those of blue blood.

0:49:280:49:31

Tower Hill, with its huge mobs, was for the commoners like Cromwell.

0:49:310:49:37

It takes three blows of the axe to sever Cromwell's head,

0:49:370:49:43

and that head is then set on a spike and put on London Bridge

0:49:430:49:49

alongside all the heads of all the traitors,

0:49:490:49:52

there for everyone to see.

0:49:520:49:54

It's a weird feeling to think that one of my ancestors,

0:49:540:49:58

-you know, would have suffered this.

-Mm.

0:49:580:50:01

-So, he's born a commoner...

-Yeah.

-..and he died a commoner.

0:50:010:50:05

-Absolutely.

-And he had that mad period in between.

-Mm.

0:50:050:50:10

He did. But a few years previous to his execution,

0:50:100:50:14

he'd done something so clever that it was feathering the nest

0:50:140:50:18

of the Cromwells for a long time to come,

0:50:180:50:22

and that is to arrange an extraordinarily prestigious marriage

0:50:220:50:28

for his son, Gregory...

0:50:280:50:29

Now, this may be a portrait of the young Gregory.

0:50:290:50:33

..to the sister of Jane Seymour.

0:50:330:50:36

This was the wife whom Henry was said to have loved

0:50:360:50:39

more than all the others cos she gave him a son.

0:50:390:50:42

So, you can imagine what an alliance for the Cromwells.

0:50:420:50:45

They're now marrying into the royal family.

0:50:450:50:49

It was a brilliant move on Cromwell's part.

0:50:490:50:52

So, Danny, you're descended from the first-born son of Gregory,

0:50:520:50:58

whom they named in honour of the king.

0:50:580:51:02

-He was Henry.

-No!

0:51:020:51:04

That's a bittersweet fact, I think.

0:51:060:51:09

That is bittersweet, isn't it?

0:51:090:51:11

Danny has discovered that

0:51:110:51:14

his 14-times great-grandfather

0:51:140:51:16

Gregory Cromwell

0:51:160:51:17

was married to Elizabeth,

0:51:170:51:19

the sister of Queen Jane Seymour -

0:51:190:51:22

Henry VIII's third

0:51:220:51:24

and favourite wife.

0:51:240:51:26

To find out who I was related to was a lot for me to take in,

0:51:270:51:33

and I've woke up today and I really want to find out about the Seymours.

0:51:330:51:38

So, that's my aim today. I think that's the path I've chose.

0:51:380:51:43

Danny has come to Westminster Abbey to meet Peter O'Donoghue,

0:51:460:51:50

a herald from the College of Arms

0:51:500:51:52

and an expert in the pedigree of the oldest families in the land.

0:51:520:51:57

-Hi, Danny.

-How are you, Peter? All right?

-Nice to meet you.

0:51:570:52:00

-A pleasure.

-Right, well, come and sit down

0:52:000:52:02

and we'll have a talk.

0:52:020:52:04

Now, you've been learning about Cromwell, I gather,

0:52:040:52:07

-your ancestor Thomas Cromwell?

-Yeah.

0:52:070:52:09

My 15-times great-grandfather.

0:52:090:52:11

So, building on that, what we've got here

0:52:110:52:13

is a scroll which will show you...

0:52:130:52:17

..a bit about the history of your family.

0:52:180:52:21

So, here is Gregory Cromwell and his wife, Elizabeth Seymour.

0:52:210:52:24

OK, so, Elizabeth Seymour,

0:52:240:52:30

John Seymour,

0:52:300:52:33

Wentworths.

0:52:330:52:34

Sir Henry Hotspur Percy.

0:52:380:52:42

Philippa Plantagenet.

0:52:420:52:47

-Explain to me.

-So, I don't know if that name, Plantagenet...

0:52:470:52:51

-Plantagenet, obviously not...

-..rings a bell.

0:52:510:52:53

-..because I've just said it wrong, so I've no idea.

-Right.

0:52:530:52:56

Well, if you follow the line back up to the top,

0:52:560:52:59

-you'll see where that name takes us.

-Lionel Plantagenet.

0:52:590:53:02

Edward III.

0:53:020:53:04

Edward III, that great medieval king.

0:53:040:53:09

So, Edward III, yes,

0:53:090:53:11

he's your 22-times great-grandfather.

0:53:110:53:15

So, you are directly descended from King Edward III of England.

0:53:180:53:23

I can't be.

0:53:250:53:27

I can't be.

0:53:280:53:29

A direct descendant from Edward III?

0:53:310:53:35

So, Danny Dyer's right at the bottom of that scroll

0:53:390:53:42

-and Edward III is at the top.

-HE LAUGHS

0:53:420:53:44

It's just stupid, isn't it?!

0:53:440:53:46

It's great. It's fantastic.

0:53:460:53:48

-It's quite amazing.

-It is pretty amazing, isn't it? It really is.

0:53:520:53:55

I just need to just digest it and get it in my nut,

0:53:590:54:02

and then I can move on with my life and...

0:54:020:54:06

I think I'm going to treat myself to a ruff.

0:54:060:54:08

-What, the...?

-Yeah.

-Yeah. It would be a good look for you.

0:54:080:54:12

Just get a massive ruff, just bowl about with it,

0:54:120:54:14

and if anyone questions it,

0:54:140:54:15

then I'll explain to them why I'm wearing a ruff.

0:54:150:54:18

That's true, yeah.

0:54:180:54:19

And then they'll have to walk away, won't they, embarrassed?

0:54:190:54:22

Actually, we can go and find out more about Edward III, if you like,

0:54:220:54:25

-further up in the abbey.

-Yeah, can I just take a moment?

0:54:250:54:28

-Sure.

-Just have a moment to myself to just...

0:54:280:54:31

A kid from Canning Town, Custom House,

0:54:330:54:36

and this is my bloodline.

0:54:360:54:39

OK, I've had my moment now. Let's go.

0:54:410:54:43

Let's go and have a pipe at Edward III,

0:54:460:54:49

my 22-times great-grandfather.

0:54:490:54:51

We're going over here.

0:54:510:54:53

-Where is he?

-Right, so, this is your ancestor, Edward III.

0:54:530:54:57

You can see his name, Edwardus, there.

0:54:570:55:00

-Edwardus.

-Yeah.

-It's laughable.

-It doesn't feel real, you mean?

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Of course it doesn't feel real.

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It's ridiculous to think somebody of my stature, somebody, you know,

0:55:060:55:11

from absolutely nothing,

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and actually my blood is his blood.

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I can't compute it in my brain.

0:55:180:55:22

-This man's related to me.

-Yeah.

0:55:220:55:25

This wonderful, powerful man.

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Not only are you descended from Edward III,

0:55:270:55:30

you're descended from all of his royal ancestors

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right back to William the Conqueror.

0:55:340:55:36

You're also descended from Henry III,

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who built this abbey.

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So, I'm on my way home now

0:55:560:56:00

to show my family this.

0:56:000:56:04

This beauty.

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And to basically tell them that we're royalty.

0:56:060:56:12

I'm so excited. I can't wait.

0:56:120:56:15

Oh, my home, finally.

0:56:200:56:22

Oh!

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HE PRETENDS TO SPEAK ITALIAN

0:56:250:56:28

-Hello, baby.

-What have you got?

0:56:280:56:31

Come here. Come here, you.

0:56:310:56:35

-Give us a kiss.

-Hello, babe.

0:56:350:56:37

-I'm so excited.

-What's that?

-Right.

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So, just roll that down.

0:56:430:56:45

Roll it down, right?

0:56:450:56:48

Now, look at the bottom.

0:56:480:56:50

-All right?

-Oh, my...

-That's Daddy at the bottom.

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And we go up, and we go up through all this mob, right?

0:56:520:56:56

There's the Cromwells.

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And, look, that's my 22-times great-grandfather - Edward III.

0:56:580:57:04

-So, basically...

-The king?

-The king.

-King.

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The king. And what are you? A prince?

0:57:070:57:09

-Yeah.

-We're blue blood, all right?

0:57:090:57:12

No way!

0:57:120:57:13

-So, cop that. Go on.

-Oh, my God! I knew I was a princess!

0:57:130:57:17

All right, it's been lovely. It's been a wonderful journey...

0:57:170:57:20

Woohoo! I'm a princess!

0:57:200:57:22

..but can you get off my drive now, please? Paupers!

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Go on, get out of here. Go on, else I'll call my security.

0:57:260:57:30

-Say... Go on, say, "Get out of it!" Go on.

-Get out of it.

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That's it, good boy. Ta-ta.

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