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The last decade has seen an explosion of interest | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
in English food. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
It's become world-class. It's cheeky. It's even sexy. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
But it's also steeped in history. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
If we are to find out about who we are and what we were | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
and where our food comes from, then we really need to look at past, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
because the past, actually, is our biggest human resource. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
'I'm heading off on an adventure into the past, to try and discover | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
'what I consider to be the cradle of contemporary English cuisine.' | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
It's an extraordinary range of flavours. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
'It's an Epicurean epic...' | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
Have a little chew. '..that begins in Roman Britain.' | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Ha-ha-ha! | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
They're all right! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Hey, fantastic! | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
Yeah, believe it or not, they are! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
'I'm going to recreate 300-year-old recipes in a 21st century kitchen.' | 0:00:47 | 0:00:53 | |
I've got my drill out! | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
I think if I'd lived in the 18th century, this would be all I would have eaten. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'From the page to the palate, it's a story that brings to life | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
'the smells, the tastes and the sights of the past.' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It's very thick, very rich, and absolutely delicious. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
'It's the period where, like any good recipe, the ingredients combine | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
'to form something that's much, much greater | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
'than the sum of their parts.' | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
Perhaps we're in a bit of a rut when it comes to flavours. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Coffee and sedition, salad and first editions, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
this is the golden age of English food. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
There is no nice way to say this. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
For 150 years, British food was less of a national cuisine | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
and more of a national disaster. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
The French president Jacques Chirac said that | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
British food was the second worst in the world, behind only Finland's. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Ha-ha. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
But the trouble is, the insult hurt, because until pretty recently, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
it was true. Our food was blooming awful, and I should know. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
I grew up in the '70s, and I am largely built of frozen | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
economy burgers, oven chips and margarine. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I've always been fascinated by a forgotten hundred-year period | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
hidden deep in our history, when English food, our produce, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
our cooks and our writers, were as good as any in the world. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
It was a wildly exciting time, when food defined | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
and shaped England, and a rich national cuisine developed. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
But then, somewhere along the way, we lost it all. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Over the last ten years, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
there's been a huge culinary renaissance, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
but what is extraordinary is how much the Renaissance owes to | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
that forgotten golden age of food. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Now, you might not give the history of your food a second thought, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
but the truth is that every time you go to the supermarket, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
you're buying a little bit of the past. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
All of these ingredients have their roots in the period | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
that I'm fascinated by. It's 1650 to 1750. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
But the tastes and flavours that we think make up English food | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
actually go way, way back. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
I think that one of the quintessentially English flavours | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
that we think of now as modern and unsophisticated | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
actually has its roots thousands of years ago. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
It's this stuff. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
Brown sauce. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
This national culinary treasure, a simple, everyday condiment, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
owes its existence to invaders 2,000 years ago. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
The Romans brought together what we now know as England under | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
one rule for the very first time. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
So at the end of the last ice age, the ice retreats, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
leaving Britain as an island, but it's not until this gets | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
built that we get the first interesting phase in British food. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
This is Hadrian's Wall. So, off to the North, savages. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
Everything to the south of here, the Roman Empire, and it's the Romans | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
who really kick-started the first exciting phase in British food. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
Vindolanda, a Roman fort established around 92 AD. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
Archaeological excavations here have revealed how ancient Roman trade | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
and Empire changed our culinary habits. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
So, the Romans arrived with their power and their love of food | 0:04:38 | 0:04:44 | |
and the wealth to be able to supply that. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
That's right. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
What do they change to the relatively primitive | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
food landscape of Britain? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Oh, they bring so much, because, of course, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
they're networked into a vast empire, so the first thing you'll | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
notice are the wonderful spices and flavours, and then just variety. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
So it is a real sort of explosion in the food culture here, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-as well as just having the foods themselves? -It is. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-People begin to cook on a different level. -They do. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-Flavours change. -They do, and the real key to this, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
the thing that gives the game up, in pre-Roman Britain, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
you don't get these, or you don't get them very often, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
which are the mixing bowls, the mortaria, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
where you're mixing your spices. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
It's where you're grinding things around. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Exactly. Pretty quickly, pretty much every household that you excavate | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
or you look at in Roman Britain has one. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-Yeah. -It's a legacy of Roman Britain, this. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
So is it a simplification to say that flavours didn't really exist | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
before, it was more about nutrition, and about getting enough energy? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
Nutrition was the key, it was the absolute key. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
You'd have the odd feast day, where you'd broaden the table | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
the little bit, but daily food was a fairly mundane experience. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
But suddenly, you're networked into a much bigger thing, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
where flavour starts to play a much more important role. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
This is the first development of a recognisable food culture | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
in Britain, that has imports of food on a grand scale, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and we're beginning to use elements from around the world | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
and incorporating them into the British diet. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
It's the first, I think, great age of British food, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
when everything's available to make whatever you want, basically. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
Whatever you want from, effectively, the known world. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
'The Romans left behind the Vindolanda tablets, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'the oldest surviving handwritten documents in Britain.' | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
'Like wooden postcards from another age, they tell us | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
'what people were interested in, and what they were eating.' | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
'But if our understanding of flavour really did begin then, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
'what will I find when I put an ancient recipe to the test?' | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
I'm going to recreate a recipe | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
from one of the oldest-known Roman cookbooks. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
"De re coquinaria" - On The Subject Of Cooking. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Recipes compiled in the fourth century AD. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
The trouble with history is that it's very difficult to evoke | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
the sensations and the emotions that people would have had, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
but when it comes to food history, it's a bit different. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
If you want to experience what a Roman soldier experienced, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
nip down the shops... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
..and get yourself some of these. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Because oysters are, in many ways, the classic ancient food, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
and there are huge mounds of oysters found at lots of Roman sites. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
And right here at Vindolanda, there is one of the written records | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
that one of the fragments they've got | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
refers to a gift of 50 oysters that somebody received. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
To really get a sense of the flavours that the Romans used | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
to add to the natural foods, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
because these were just growing in the estuaries, I guess, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
this is a sauce that features a lot of the flavours | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
that they used to have. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
A pinch of pepper, and then they would add a little bit of celery seed | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
that's been crushed up, which is similar to lovage, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
which was very popular as well. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
A couple of egg yolks. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
And then acetum was very important. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
It was a vinegar that used to be added to water, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and was watered down for marching soldiers. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
And then they used to have a substance that was called liquamen. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
It was basically made from fermented rotted fish. Very, very pungent. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
We get the same sort of sensation from either nam pla, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
which is Thai fish sauce, or from Worcester sauce. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
Little bit of olive oil. Italian olive oil, obviously. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
And then honey. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
It's an extraordinary range of flavours, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
from sweet to deeply sour to that fishiness, as well. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
So there we go. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
A Roman supper. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Might have a little try. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
I think I should be first, seeing as I made it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
And now for this oyster with Apicius's oyster sauce. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Mm-hmm! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
That's extraordinary. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
It's like having an oyster with brown sauce. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Let's see what everyone else thinks. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
So, it's an oyster, fresh oyster, uncooked, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
with a sauce straight from a Roman cookery book. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Try it, and tell me what you think. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
What do you think? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
Different! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
Have a little chew. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
They're all right! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
Yeah, fantastic. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Believe it or not, they are. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
As well as aqueducts and roads, the Romans brought with them | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
the first great age of flavour. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
I'd say that when they left in the fifth century, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
England was plunged into a culinary dark age. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Of course, people don't just stop eating when the Romans leave, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
but our food culture does go into decline. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Then, from the mediaeval period onwards, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
we rediscover old ingredients, and we discover new ones, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
but it's often through invasion. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
William the Conqueror invades, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
bringing tastes from the continent, and we invade the East | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
during the Crusades, bringing back tastes and flavours from there. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
But this isn't a national cuisine. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
It's a European cuisine, and was mainly eaten by the nobility. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
It doesn't really filter down to the lower classes. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Henry VIII's dissolution of the monasteries | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and the split from Rome is a seismic shift in society and class, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
but it takes time for that to affect the way we eat. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Now, yes, 1,300 years after the Romans leave is full of interesting | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
food, but it's after that that things get really exciting. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
When Henry VIII dissolved the monasteries, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
he sold off the ecclesiastical lands to raise funds for the Crown. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
Suddenly, the emerging merchant class had a chance to rise up | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
the social ladder, and the English country house entered a new era. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Before this, our food habits were closely intertwined with | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
religion, but now the table was set for a whole new | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
relationship between the English and their food. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Can you paint a picture of the state that Britain's been | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
left in by the Tudors by around 1650? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
I think the most fundamental change | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
was that more people had more wealth. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Suddenly, we found, through trade, through the East India Companies, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
whether it was the English or the Dutch, it was generating wealth. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
And that wealth filtered its way right down to the lower levels. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
The big country houses were powerhouses. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
They were generating wealth throughout a big | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
proportion of society. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
So is there a fundamental social shift? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Absolutely. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
And there's wealth that filters down, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
and a lot of that comes from trade, because of relative peace, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
you get the prosperity, and that's reflected and defined, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
I guess, by food, because a lot of that trade is in food. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
And also the objects needed it to consume the food. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
Because the dining table was the most important part | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
of a country house establishment, and also in the farmhouse, as well. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
So the fashion starts right at the top with the upper levels | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
playing around with new ideas, something new has come in, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
it's a novelty, and it slowly starts to filter down, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
so it does have a tangible effect on society as a whole? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Very much so. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Food had become aspirational, a way to display new wealth. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
It was generating trade, and with it, a city. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
London, 1649. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
We've just cut the head off our King, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
and so begins the most radical period of English history. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
There are seven years of bloody Civil War, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
where families are wrecked apart, brother fights brother, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
and society is thrown into chaos. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
When the dust settles, it is clear | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
that nothing will ever be the same again. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
We've killed our King, we have a new political landscape, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
and there's a chance to remake society | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
in entirely unthought-of ways. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
New ideas are not only introduced, but they're spread. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
Over the next 50 years or so, we fight a series of successful wars, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and we begin building our empire. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
The spread of trade and commerce is unstoppable. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
In 1660, we restore our King to throne in the shape of Charles II, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
but the changes brought by the revolution are here to stay. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
In 1660, London is the third largest city in the world, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
but over the next hundred years, it becomes the largest. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
In many ways, the world comes to London, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
and with it, the world's produce. Whether it's power, prostitution | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
or dinner you're after, London is where it's at. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
This is the beginning of a national identity, and with it, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
a national cuisine. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
Now that might seem like a tenuous link, but the reality is that | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
food, politics and Englishness are inextricably linked. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Nowhere was this interplay more apparent than in the emerging | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
coffee house scene. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
1652 sees the first coffee house open in London, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and within decades, there are over 500 in the capital, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
and many more in every town across the land. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
'Food and drink can change the world, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
'brewing political change in a cup.' | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Why did coffee become important? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
At the start of 1650, were people drinking much tea, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
coffee and chocolate? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
From about 1650, you start to get what is almost an explosion | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
in all three beverages, and that's really driven by coffee houses. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And, famously, Pepys talks about coffee houses. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Yes. He goes from coffee house to coffee house to go and celeb spot. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
And he's a political mover and shaker, isn't he? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Yes, very much so. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
And so why does coffee become associated with politics? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
What's the connection? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
I think because they're called coffee houses, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
apart from anything else. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
They serve tea, they serve coffee, they serve beer, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
but they're known as coffee houses, and coffee is one of those things | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
which almost revolutionises the whole political landscape. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
For once, we're able to do our business dealings not over beer | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
or brandy or wine, we do it over coffee. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
And that turns the coffee house into a sort of arena, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
or forum for thought, politics. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
For everything. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
They're known as the penny universities, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
because you pay an entrance fee, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
or perhaps you just pay for your cup of coffee, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
depending on the house, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
you go in, you have access to the newspapers, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
you have access to the foremost thinkers of the day, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
and each coffee house gains its own character, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
so there'll be a coffee house where literary gents hang out, there'll be | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
a coffee house where the political movers and shakers hang out. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
There's a coffee house for the early financial industry, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and it's out of the coffee houses that a lot of financial institutions | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
such as Lloyd's Shipping List grow. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
They are so interesting and so potentially seditious | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
that Charles II tries to close them in the 1670s. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
So they're a genuine force? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
They are a real force. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Charles sees this as a real threat to the court, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
because he is trying to concentrate power back into the court, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
having just been restored, and it fails. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
The bill goes into Parliament, but it's never enacted, because | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
the power of the coffee houses is such, and these are male-dominated. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
It's extraordinary, because it's a drink. It's a powder. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
But it changes the world, and it changes England a lot, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
because of the way our political landscape works in the 17th century. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
They really do become an alternative forum to the court, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
and that's very, very important going forward, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
because that's part of 18th-century development, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
that we are not completely focused on the monarchy, that we | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
have this alternative forum, and that's where an awful lot | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
of national development comes out, the national cuisine starts | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
coming out, and that feeds back into the greatness of the 18th century. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
So this is the tea, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
but this isn't tea as in the sort of common tea that we drink now. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
It's back to green tea. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Yes, green tea was very, very popular. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
In fact, green tea, when you look at 17th-century depictions of tea, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
it's always green tea. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
Black tea triumphs in about 1720, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
and black tea tends to be drunk with milk. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
Green tea, without, or possibly with. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
But it's very much a delicate drink, very quickly associated with women, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
partly because it has this proliferation of stuff with it, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
which means that women can show their gentility, their taste, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
their ability to hold and use delicate porcelain objects. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
So it's about the kit involved as much as the drink? | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Yes. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
-Feminism through tea? -Mmm. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
That's brilliant. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-I drink my tea, I salute feminism throughout history. -Excellent. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Chocolate. Sinful pleasure! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-Is this how they would have drunk it, with a bit of milk? -Yes. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Basically hot chocolate. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
Er, yeah. It was initially drunk with water. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
In South America, it was drunk with water, sometimes thickened with | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
maize and usually sweetened with honey, if it was sweetened at all. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
But over here, we very quickly started drinking it with milk, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
and Madame de Sevigne, over in France, records drinking it | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
with little milk bottles, specially designed for it, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
by the 1670s, and at the time, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
we are using effectively cocoa mass, so 100% cocoa. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Hearty, sort of, spicy affair, isn't it? | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
It's very thick, very rich and absolutely delicious. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
There's a wonderful pamphlet by Dr Duncan called The Wholesome Advice | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Against The Abuse Of Hot Liquors. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
And hot liquors meaning tea and coffee, rather than spirits. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Tea, coffee and chocolate, but mainly coffee. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
With tea, it's a slightly different argument. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
There, it will feminise us, so you have rants against the fact that we | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
are turning from a war-like nation into a nation of effeminate sippers. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
And with chocolate, again, just as you say that nothing is new, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
with chocolate, these days we associate it with sex and luxury, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
and advertisers tell us that | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
if you drink chocolate or eat chocolate, that it's an aphrodisiac. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Well, then, there were an awful lot of pamphlets in circulation that | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
suggested that if you ate chocolate, you would become randy | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
and a nymphomaniac. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
And did they think that was a good thing or a bad thing? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
I think most of them thought it was quite a good thing. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
There's a very, very long poem all about the wonderful effects | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
of chocolate, and there's a line in it that says... | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
The glint in your eye when you say this is quite scary. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
In The Due Praise Of Divine Chocolate was published in 1652. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
The written word holding a mirror up to the interests of society | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
in the 17th century, just as it does today. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
Over the last ten years or so, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
there's been an explosion in British food writing. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Our fastest-selling non-fiction book of all time was recently | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
published, and it was a cookbook, although bizarrely, not one of mine. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
But for me, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
the first truly exciting age of food writing was during the restoration. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
The Brotherton Library holds one of the nation's most important | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
collections of historic cookbooks. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
They're a culinary conduit into the past. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
There's some really exciting books right here in front of us. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
Can you tell me about the development of the cookery book? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
The first cookery book is published is by Bartolomeo Scappi, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
or Platina, as he's sometimes called. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
The fact that this has been translated into Italian | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
out of Latin shows, actually, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
more and more people are wanting to appreciate and to try these recipes. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
The same process occurs in England during the 16th and 17th centuries. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
More and more becoming available in your own language, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
and that's a very important step. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Is that a function of the Enlightenment, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
or is it just cookery, people needed to be told how to cook things? | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
It's part of the Renaissance. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Renaissance people always see it as something that's going back | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
to the ancient Greeks, Greek and Latin language, but actually, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
it's also a new emphasis on, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
"Well, my language is actually just as good." | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
It's a revelation. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
It is, and, "I can make it into a learned language." | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
We have an example here of Hannah Woolley's The Queen-like Closet, | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
or Rich Cabinet, and this is by a woman, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
one of the very first cookery books we have published by a woman. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Hannah Woolley has almost a little industry. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
She's an early Beeton, in a way. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
She compiles all of these recipes, and it's actually not | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
aimed at Kings and Queens, it's actually about giving you | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
a little insight into what you can do to make your household better. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Yes. And food has always reflected what somebody has to say | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
about themselves, and food is a marker of cultural identity, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
and I think people are more aware of that in the 17th century, perhaps, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and are more likely to write about it and publish it, maybe. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
And they like all the things that we would expect. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
We don't need forks in our cookery books, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
but we would like measurements. These tend not to have that. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
Some of these authors here will expect you to actually go out | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
and milk your own cow, or they will expect you to have gone to | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
the butcher, or indeed, even to have done the butchery yourself. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
As you get more urban society, more people living in the city, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
they do actually forget that knowledge of how to milk a cow, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
and they may or may not have their own oven, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
-and that process of educating through cookery books starts. -Yeah. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
We're still with that, and we now do... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
Delia Smith had to explain how to boil an egg. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
'I'm intrigued by the ingredients | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
'and flavours these books might have brought into an English household, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
'so I'm going to try cooking a recipe from one of them at home. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
'How will golden age cookery writing | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
'translate to a 21st century kitchen?' | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
I'm going to cook an amazing recipe, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
which really represents the absolute peak of Restoration era food. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
It's quite challenging, it's called "A calf's head surprise". | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
And here is a calf's head, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and this ought to be an absolutely era-defining dish, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
but I've got a hunch that it's also going to be, oddly, quite modern. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
"You must bone it". | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
So this means I need to take away the skin from the head itself. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
As you follow the bone against the skin, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
you can then begin to peel it back a little bit. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
'It's hard to know how common this exact dish was, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
'though calf's heads were hugely popular, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'but only the rich had ovens, and as I'm rapidly realising, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
'it's neither an easy nor a quick dish to cook.' | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
And there is the empty calf's head. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
This dish is a real spectacle dish, really. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
You need quite a lot of skill, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
a lot more skill than I've got, to be able to do it really well, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
and so it would be something done in one of the big houses where you | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
had the staff that can really pull it off, and let's flip it over. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
I'm chopping through the base of the tongue now. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
These look pretty gruesome, but tongue was a very, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
very popular piece of meat. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I mean, this whole thing is not the sort of throwaway bit | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
of an animal that it is today. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
These were the expensive bits. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
The reason why this is going to be an era-defining dish is that, first | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
of all, this is beef, and British beef was absolutely fantastic. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
We were renowned for it. We ate a phenomenal amount of it. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
It crops up so often. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
But also, this is something that takes a lot of skill. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Oh! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
Went straight through. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
I've done a lot of strange and wonderful dishes in the past, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
but it's quite a brutal affair handling | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
and dealing with something quite as graphic as this. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
But I guess, in the Restoration, they were simply less squeamish. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
This was food, and this was a refined food. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
It takes quite a lot to get into that mindset, I have to say. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
So, really strong umami flavours, those fifth taste flavours, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:22 | |
which, again, are so common these days. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Now I'm going to try and sew the whole thing up. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
This is going to be the tricky bit. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
This is unbelievably difficult to do! | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
The skin is so tough | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
that I just simply can't get my needle through it. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
But it's fine. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I've got my drill out! | 0:26:50 | 0:26:51 | |
Using a bit of new technology. Even that is quite tricky. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
And it just shows the extraordinary level of skill that they must | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
have had to be able to pull something like this off. Oh! | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Just like I've pulled it off! | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I do think it's amazing that you can just pick up a cookery book | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
from hundreds of years ago and experience some real, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
visceral experiences that a Restoration cook | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
and a Restoration eater would have had. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Going to get a bit more structure to him that way, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
and I'm a bit worried he might just sink, but that's not bad going, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
for somebody who doesn't really know what he's up to. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
That is the head, stuffed and ready to go. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
'If you're thinking of trying this at home, set aside the entire day.' | 0:27:49 | 0:27:55 | |
Oh! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
Move it along a little bit... to there. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
Doesn't fit. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Rethink. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
And... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
There we go. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
It's sort of like a massive chicken nugget. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
Better have a little try of this and see what the flavours are, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
what the experience is. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
Wow! | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
Look at that. Oh, my gosh! | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Never seen anything like it in my life. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Roast. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
It's like a tour of beef cookery. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
What makes this so amazing is the inventiveness and the skill, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
the playfulness of it. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It just shows a level of skill, but a set of flavours which is | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
so modern. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
All of those deep, deep umami flavours that are in the meat, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
that's everything that modern chefs are always talking about. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
The use of nose to tail eating is an enormously important | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
force in restaurant culture in Britain now, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
and there's the whole idea of using the head. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
I haven't seen any calves' heads on menus yet, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
but pigs' heads and entrails and spleen, they're all over the place | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
at the very top level of restaurant eating. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
I've had some strange dishes in the past. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
I've had rotten walrus, I've had radioactive soup, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I've tried some of the strangest foods on the planet, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
but nothing is quite as stunning, as an overall experience, as this. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
It's no longer gruesome, it's theatre on a plate. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
The average person may not have been rustling up such a challenging | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
dish every week, but my golden age is the period where the | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
quintessentially English meal of roast beef is born, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
thanks to advances in animal husbandry, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
techniques and technology. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
I'm off to meet Ivan Day, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
one of the world's leading experts on historic food. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
'At Ivan's house, we can cook food not only according to | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
'the original recipes, but with the authentic equipment, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
'any mod cons are strictly 18th century.' | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
This is a fillet of beef, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
and we're going to roast it according to a recipe from 1660, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
which is the year of Charles' restoration to the throne. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
This is the best of British food you could ever possibly experience. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Beef and Britain. This is a special relationship, isn't it? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
It certainly is. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
I mean, if anything, we're a nation of cattle drovers, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
but we're renowned for our beef. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
And across the world, we are the "rosbif". | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Exactly, and already in the 17th century, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
farmers were beginning to think about how | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
they could improve their strains, and by the 18th century, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
we are producing the best beef in Europe, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
so we actually accelerated forward with cattle improvement. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
And this is why it's such a tragedy that we had BSE in this country, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
because it seemed to wipe out all that heritage that we'd built up, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
where British beef was just phenomenally good, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
and in a flash, the world sees British beef has something negative. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
Yeah, it was a pariah. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
So the fact that the British were interested in animal husbandry, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
is that a function of the Enlightenment, the idea that | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
a little bit of science can come into pastoral matters? | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Absolutely. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
I mean, the Enlightenment really starts in the Renaissance, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
particularly in botany, where the herbalists are trying to identify, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
first of all, the plants identified by the ancient medical writers | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
like Dioscorides and Pliny. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
And then... | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
Bonkers. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
Totally bonkers, yeah. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
So there were people experimenting in the 16th century, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
and gradually that really hotted up in the 17th and 18th, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
so really, the scientific revolution at the end of the 17th century, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
we tend to think of people like Newton and Robert Boyle, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
but there were other people who were exploring the plant world | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and looking for new foods, or how to improve food crops, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
so, you know, it was a very important movement, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
and we had the Royal Society founded during the reign of Charles II, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
which gave impetus to this. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
So you can actually eat the Enlightenment. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
I like that idea! | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
This is the experience of the Restoration kitchen. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
It's just unbelievably hot in here. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Right. If you grab hold of pulley on the end of that. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:16 | |
What we're going to do is we're going to see | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
if we can get that right down the middle, it's a very tender joint, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
it'll go through that little hole, and it'll come out. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Gosh, that really is tender. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
If you go round that side. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
This goes over here? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Put it on the second hook down, OK? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
And then we'll grab that chain and turn it into a figure of eight. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
That's it, and the hook is on the bottom of the pulley. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
OK. Now, if you just grab this handle, and put it onto here, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:46 | |
and wind it towards the wall, you can turn it much more quickly | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
if you like. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
RATCHETS CLINK | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
Symphony going on here! | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Well, it's the sound of an 18th-century kitchen. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
And just watch it so that it doesn't go up too high. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
Great, that's it. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
Right, take the handle off and just hang it on the front | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
of the thing, give that a little bit of a spin, that way, that's it. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Off she goes. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
This is quite high-tech, really. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
I didn't expect to see something of this sophistication in a kitchen. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
Well, that's surprising in a way, because the very best clocks | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
that were ever made in Britain were made during this period. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
So it was a very advanced technological culture going on? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Oh, yeah. Clock making, the horologists of that period, I mean, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
think about Greenwich and making chronometers and things. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
I mean, that was much more skilful than making these things. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
This was the very lowest common denominator in terms of clockwork. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
But to find it in the kitchen is wonderful. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
It was very common. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
By the end of the 17th century, a friend of mine | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
who did a survey in Bristol found that about 40% of the homes | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
in Bristol had these things, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
so they weren't in just very wealthy houses. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
They were often in inns and taverns and merchants' houses. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Yeah. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
If you look through old cookery books, you often find | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
frontispieces, and if you look up here, you can actually see the jack. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
See the woman playing with the chain? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
Yeah. In front of a ferocious fire! | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
I'm surprised that Tom the cameraman isn't actually burning himself, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
because this is so hot, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
and the women would be working in this kind of heat? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Yeah, and look what they're wearing. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
These incredibly long gowns and aprons would catch fire. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
And there were the most horrific accidents. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Oh, my word. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
So there weren't any fire extinguishers. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Is it just romantic nationalistic nonsense to talk | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
about a British cuisine, an English food, or a golden age, or do you | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
think there is a genuine national identity seen in things like this? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
In this country, in the last 20 years, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
there has been a considerable watershed in food culture. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
We've got fantastic food in our restaurants, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
we have more ingredients available. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Our restaurants are winning best restaurant in the world. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
And so they should, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
but when we look back at the '70s and the '60s and the '50s | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
and the '40s, we see a graph that goes down like that, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
and we assume it goes like that all the way down to | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
the Neanderthals, but actually, it's not quite as simple as that, because | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
it goes down like that, and then it might just go up a bit, and then it | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
might dip again, and then it might go up even higher than we are now. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
So the current renaissance, it's actually a reawakening, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
in some ways, of traditions | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
and developments that were laid down hundreds of years ago? | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
I think we have a golden age philosophy | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
underlying our current interests in food. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Let me give you some examples, like, for instance, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
the buzzwords are regional, are local, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
are organic, are seasonal. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
Now, all those words indicate that we're trying to get back to | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
something we used to have, because at one time, all food was organic. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
There was no choice. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
There was no choice, so built into our current interest in food | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
is a kind of golden age syndrome, if you like. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
But I think it's very important to understand that, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
because I think it's propelling our interest in food, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
and food history is only just awakening. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
I mean, there's only a few lunatics like me 20 or 30 years ago | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
who had any interest in it at all, and now it's the new sex, basically. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
There are food historians popping out of every orifice, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
you know, trying to make a point, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
and if we are to find out about who we are and what we were | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and where our food comes from, then I think we really need to look at | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
the past, because the past, actually, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
is our biggest human resource. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
We've got the experience, not just of everyone alive now, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
but everyone who's ever lived, in a way, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
and that comes through the food, because they're the people who | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
actually invented the vast majority of what we call traditional dishes. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
And some of the inventiveness of past centuries | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
is on an extraordinary level that puts today's molecular gastronomists | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
not to shame, but it certainly doesn't make what | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
they are doing as extraordinary and new as people would make out. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
There is absolutely nothing new. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I mean, there was a recent craze for what I call cuckoo spit, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
you know, on your plate in a Michelin-starred restaurant. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Cappuccinos and foams. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
Foams and things. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
You know, we've had foams, we've had syllabubs | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
and lots of other frothy, light things | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
which were very important at one time, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
so that's a kind of sensual experience other generations have | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
enjoyed, and we've forgotten that they actually like that, you know. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
And actually, some of their foams are much better than the ones | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
that are made now, to tell you the truth, and there was | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
specialist equipment to serve them, too, believe it or not. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
So there isn't anything new under the sun. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Look at that. It's a work of art. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
OK, and then if you help yourself to a little bit of cucumber ragu. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
They look extraordinary, don't they? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Yeah. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:10 | |
What we're eating here is the golden age of English food. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
That is absolutely extraordinary. It's so soft inside. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
The herbs are very gentle. It's not a huge, overpowering... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
It's not a sauce that's been developed by boiling | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
lots of meats like you get in French cookery. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Exactly. What it is, though, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
you're learning about the sensibility of these people. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
They had very good taste. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
This age of reason saw enormous advances in thought | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
and technology which changed the way we ate. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
The expansion of market gardening was a key development, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
allowing a huge variety of produce to be cultivated on a huge scale. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
So what are the big changes that happened in food production | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
between 1650 and 1750? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Well, it is a century that precedes what is classically | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
known as the agricultural revolution. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
There was a general increase in commercial gardening | 0:40:11 | 0:40:17 | |
and private gardening for vegetables and fruit. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
So market gardens. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
Market gardens, yeah. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:22 | |
Land cultivated with the spade and hoe, and the rake, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
rather than with the plough. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
The techniques of producing vegetables | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
got more and more sophisticated in the gardens. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
And all these developments actually changed the substance | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
that's on the plates of Britain. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
They did, because it meant you could produce things out of season, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
or you could produce exotic things. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
An extreme example of producing crops which should never have | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
been produced in the UK is the growing of the first pineapple. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
And that's a huge technical achievement, isn't it? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
It is, and as with all technical achievements, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
once the first one had been produced, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
everybody wanted to produce pineapples. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
In the late 17th century, the pineapple enjoyed something | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
like celebrity status in the English fruit and vegetable landscape. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
By the early 18th century, pineapples were still expensive, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
but they were becoming more common, and they were available | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
in the emerging fruit and vegetable markets, like Covent Garden. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
People like John Evelyn, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
who was very interested in eating vegetables and eating salads. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
In fact, this is his book on salads, Acertaria. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
Acertaria. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
Which tells you everything you wanted to know about making a salad. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
It's a beautiful book, isn't it? | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
And this is sort of a first, isn't it? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
This is the first really big book which says, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
"Come on, eat salads, and here's how to do it!" | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
It's way ahead of its time. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
Evelyn goes through every conceivable type of salad, | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
radish, purslane. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
Purslane's a really interesting one, actually, isn't it? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
There's a whole range of nutrients in it | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
that it has in a huge concentration. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
Yeah, although, according to Evelyn, purslane is accused | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
"For being hurtful to the teeth, if too much eaten." | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
And there's a sort of extraordinary spreadsheet in it, isn't there? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
Yeah. This is a typical Evelyn invention. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
He first lists all the major vegetable crops, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
and then what's in season. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Then he gives you combinations of these in season crops. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Finally, what sort of salad dressing you should use | 0:42:36 | 0:42:42 | |
with them, so you could put that on your kitchen table | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
and instantly whip up a salad according to the best directions. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
'I'm fascinated by the idea of salad, 1699 style.' | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
'So I'm off to my local greengrocers to pick up some ingredients | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
'to try out Evelyn's ideas.' | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
What's extraordinary is the connection that my local | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
greengrocers right now makes with the past. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
These salads start with a celery castle in the middle. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:31 | |
Now, celery is really interesting, because... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
Oh, it's a bit mucky. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
It really sort of started as a flavouring, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
and it was only in the 1600s, really, that celery became | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
something that you could actually have as an ingredient on its own. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
So this should, with all of these flavourings and ingredients, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
be pretty spectacular in sensual terms, in the taste and flavour. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
'Evelyn calls for a panache of celery as a centrepiece. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
'He is unusual in just using vegetables. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
'Other authors suggest mounds of meat or pastry architecture. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
'Well, in the spirit of inventiveness | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
'which permeates the period, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
'for my salad, I'm going to construct a celery castle.' | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
I haven't a clue how I'm going to do this. It's so complicated! | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
What I need is John Evelyn here, now, in my kitchen. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
Which, actually, I've sort of got, because you can download a lot of | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
these beautiful old cookbooks on the Internet, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
so I've got a copy of John Evelyn's Acertaria here. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
All these recipes are wonderfully, and in a modern way, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
they are relatively vague. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
They sort of say, "If you've got this, you can use it. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
"If you've got that, you can use it." | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
Trouble is, they sort of assume some level of expertise. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
A level of expertise that I don't have. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
Hmmm. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
Less of a castle, more of a folly. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
Quite a lot of effort for small returns. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
You wouldn't do that for a kid's birthday party. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
Bit weird, but there's my centrepiece. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
Now it's a question of doing concentric rings of different | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
vegetables and salads, and this is all stuff that I've picked | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
up from my local grocers, which is pretty cool, I have to say, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
but there's some extraordinary things. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
This is purslane, and purslane crops up | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
so often in recipes of the period, and I was wondering why, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
and they may well not have known this at the time, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
but purslane has more Omega-3 fatty acids in than almost | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
any other leafy vegetable, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
so it was incredibly good for you in some ways, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
and it tastes, it's like a very, very succulent, lettucey, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
slightly garlicky herb, and it's almost slimy on the tongue, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:04 | |
but in a really lovely way. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
Evelyn also talks about things that you shouldn't put in your salads, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
and he specifically says that varieties of spinach | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
may lead to the runs. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:25 | |
So we'll keep those aside. We'll use some chard instead. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
Dried peas were the food of the poor, they were a staple food, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
but around this period you get a mania for garden peas, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
and people lose fortunes by spending so much money on peas, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
because they love them so much. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
I think that looks pretty spectacular. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
I'm going to do one final thing, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
just to make it even more ridiculously ornate. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
Have some little palm trees going all the way around the outside. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
I think Evelyn would have approved. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
The amazing thing about John Evelyn is he wasn't just a salad writer, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:16 | |
he was a famous diarist, he was a contemporary of Pepys, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
and obviously Pepys wrote a huge amount about food, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
and there's the famous story about him | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
burying his palms under his garden around the Great Fire of London, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
but also he talked about things like the first time | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
he drank orange juice, and these contemporary accounts | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
of somebody being fascinated by something they're drinking | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
that we find so ordinary, I find absolutely wonderful. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
'I've tried these recipes in the comfort of my own kitchen, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
'but how do they transfer to the modern palate? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
'I've borrowed a restaurant in York for the afternoon | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
'for my most audacious experiment yet.' | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
It's all very well discussing events that happened 300 years ago, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
the comings and goings of monarchy and Empire, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
but if you're really going to evoke a golden age of food, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
I think you've got to taste it. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
'Food historian Dr Annie Gray and I | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
'have put together a golden age menu.' | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
'We've assembled a team of helpers to prepare a selection of recipes | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
'from 17th and 18th century cookbooks.' | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
'From porcupine of beef to Parmesan ice cream, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
'these recipes sound surprisingly modern.' | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
'Although some of the ingredients | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
'have fallen out of mainstream cookery.' | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
-You've got to look at this. This is just the most extraordinary stuff. -It's gorgeous. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
It's so funny. It's as thick as Clingfilm, but it's got this beauty to it. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
It's very strong. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:49 | |
These days it's a throwaway bit of old beef, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
but this would have been quite expensive, a kind of rarefied cut. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
It's something that is used an awful lot. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
Neater than that! | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
-We are in a hurry! -Sloppy! | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
Snip that off! OK, we'd better get moving, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
because everybody's going to arrive any minute now. Where do we put these? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
'We've chosen each recipe to reflect a specific aspect | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
'of this golden age, such as the introduction of new vegetables, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
'the rise of the English identification with roast beef, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
'or the lost flavour combinations.' | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
So, everyone's here. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
It's a mixture of food-heads and historians and people who I hope | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
will be able to put some words to the experience they're having. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
And they're quite hungry, so I'd better get started. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
I am intrigued to find out what's going to happen, what they're | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
going to experience, because this is such a modern setting. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
This is 21st century York we're in, | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
and we're going to bring out dishes from 300-odd years ago. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
I've no idea whether they'll get a sense of the fact that it's | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
steeped in history or not. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
Better get started. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:11 | |
'If we were being sticklers for historical accuracy, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
'we'd serve these dishes all at the same time.' | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:34 | |
That is extraordinary. It's a very sort of clean, pure flavour. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:41 | |
What's amazing about this soup is that | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
we don't really cook cucumbers any more. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
We don't really cook lettuces, and if you get cucumber soup, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
it's usually gazpacho. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
It's basically raw. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:51 | |
So this is an old technique that is pretty much forgotten. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
As you'd expect, it's a really delicate, delicate flavour, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
but absolutely fantastic. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Ever so slightly aniseedy, I guess, which I wasn't really expecting. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
I don't know what it looks like! | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Quite a good discussion going. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Mmm. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:23 | |
Er, it's, hmmm. OK. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
OK. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
It's like a fried breadcrumb. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
So, what you've got here is lumber pie, and it's a fat-based affair, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:40 | |
but it's a combination of sweetness and meat. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
And inside there's grapes, there's little, basically faggots, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
again, wrapped in fat. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
Covered in a pastry where you can see inside, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
you can see what's going on. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
There's a little sneak preview before you get started. So, enjoy. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
This does actually work quite well. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
Sausage and grape, you wouldn't normally think, "Mmm!" | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
I'm enjoying this. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
I think it's extraordinary that it is sweet | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
and meat in one mouthful, but quite a lot of spice, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
quite delicate, but highly spiced at the same time. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
By modern tastes, it's a very unusual set of sensations. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
There is a whiff of Cornish pasty, definitely. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
Yes. Sausage and gooseberry? | 0:52:26 | 0:52:27 | |
Sausage and gooseberry. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
Very fragrant. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
It goes right up your nose and opens up your nasal passages. Really good. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
I think that if I'd lived in the 18th century, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
this would be all I would have eaten. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
That one was considerably nicer than that one, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
because this one is sweet and tastes like a dessert. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
-This one just tastes like feet. -Yeah. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
So, what was your experience of Restoration era food? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:08 | |
It's more like a chaos of flavours, rather than a blend of flavours. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
There's nothing in there that nobody has ever eaten before. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
There's nothing in there that was incredibly unusual. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
It was just things that we don't have in that combination. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
The fact that is surprising is potentially slightly worrying, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
that it shouldn't be. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
We should be trying different things together and having a palate that | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
can anticipate and deal with different combinations. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Perhaps our palates are trained in some particular way, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
so then we look at this and say, "It doesn't work." | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
But perhaps we're just in a bit of a rut when it comes to flavours. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
I think we've lost a lot. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
I think our expectations are lower, and I think we don't delight | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
in complex flavours, or even a succession of flavours on the palate, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
as they obviously did then. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
'Over a glass of wine, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:55 | |
'there's time to reflect on our Restoration restaurant experiment.' | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
Well, what an amazing range of reactions to the food! | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
It's extraordinary. When you say to people, "OK, this isn't my supper. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
"We are creating something from the past," | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
the gloves are off, and some people absolutely loved it | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
and were fascinated by it and inspired by it, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
and some people just went, "Urgh, it smells of socks!" | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Which is fair enough, if it smells of socks. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
There's nothing wrong with that, but, yeah, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
interesting that they could feel able to... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-Yeah. -We did set out to provoke reactions. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
Every single dish was chosen to represent a facet of this era, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
and, you know, we didn't tell people what the facets were, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
but we were seeking to get something from people, and it's much better | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
that we created, in some cases, quite a polarised set of opinions. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
I mean, I think the Parmesan ice cream was really, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
really interesting, because it was a proper Marmite dish. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
There were people virtually vomiting across the table, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
and yet I know, later on, one of the people that was at the dinner, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:59 | |
one of the ladies was desperate to put it on the menu at her own cafe. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
Do you know, that's exactly what I like from meals. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
I don't want people to sit there going, "Mmm." | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
Eating it away. I'd quite like people to say, "Do you know what? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
"I loved that. I really hated that." | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
Well, the interaction with the food is very much part of this period, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
the idea of playfulness that was apparent in some of the dishes, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
like the lumber pie. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
That's something where food is something that's exciting, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
it needs to be talked about. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
This isn't the Victorian era, where you cannot comment on your meals, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
so I think, in many ways, what we created was quite a good thing. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
I do find it remarkable that this era is neglected, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
pretty much, in popular history. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
We know about the Tudors, we know about the Romans, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
we know about mediaeval feasts, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
but this era people don't really talk about. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
I think this period is one that has been neglected. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
People have heard of Victoria, they've heard of Henry VIII, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
they've heard of Queen Elizabeth. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
They tend not to have heard of William III or Queen Anne, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
and it's a real shame, because under these monarchs, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
in this period of history, everything happens. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
All the foundations that we know and love like the Stock Exchange, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
the Bank of England and the National Lottery come into being, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
and that also applies to our cuisine. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
I don't know what I really expected from it, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
but it was brilliant to recreate these dishes that I'd only really | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
seen in books, and to get people to give their honest reactions. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
I was really impressed. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
-Yeah. -Well done. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:25 | |
-Here's to it! -Pulled it off! | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
'I think the seeds of contemporary English cuisine | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
'were unquestionably sewn in this golden age.' | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Now, it is true that between then and now English food did | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
lose its way, but I wonder if that's part of the current renaissance. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
We had to have these wilderness years, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
when we begged, borrowed and stole from other food cultures, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
because we'd simply lost our own, and now, when we're | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
rediscovering these wonderful dishes, we're not tied to the past, | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
we don't get criticised for being moribund, which French cuisine sometimes is. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
But the most important thing for me is this - | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
if generations of kids grow up in a country that's reconnected | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
to its food history, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
that truly loves and understands everything that's good and | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
decent to eat, then the future for English food is incredibly exciting. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
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