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A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
This is a pity, as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palate | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Blackstone Bordeaux is rightly praised as a peppermint-flavoured Burgundy. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Whilst a good Sydney Syrup can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
GLUGS | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
Quite the reverse is true of Chateau Chunder | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
which is an Appellation Controlee | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
specially grown for those keen on regurgitation. BURPS | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
A fine wine which truly opens up the sluices at both ends. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is "Beware". | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
This is not a wine for drinking, this is a wine for laying down and avoiding. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
It's the biggest question in the history of wine. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
The colour, the smell, the flavour. "What is this?" | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
How did an unfashionable backwater | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
with no track record... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Listen, they don't make wine in Australia. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
And if they did, who'd buy it? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
..in a notoriously elitist business... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
You should have seen their noses wrinkled up! | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
..go from making Chateau Chunder... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
With a wine like this... | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
..to become the toast of the international wine world? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
..you could conquer the world. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
This is a story of courage in the face of adversity... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
They used to say, "Chateau Chunder from Down Under!" | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
..of opportunity knocking... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
We knew we had fine wine. All we needed was the chance. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
..of preaching to the not-yet converted. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
We were trying to create a wine revolution. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
We needed some heroes to work with. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
And our hero was Australia. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
Australian wine helped us go from this... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
to this. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Australian wine blazed the trail, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
changed the drinking habit of the British Isles. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
I love Aussie wine, yeah. Love it. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
This is not just the story of wine. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
It's the story of us. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
You just opened the bottle, swirled it round | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
and whoa! You were home! | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Wine. Old World. Revered. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Infused with history | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
and mystery. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
And somehow, inescapably French. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
We know how to make in France some wines which are very sophisticated. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
I would say it is the evolution of knowledge in agronomy. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
The French have been making wine since the 6th century BC. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
It is embedded in the fabric of their lives. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
For us, it's more about lifestyle | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
and something that we live every day. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
And it's not written in a book. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
You just have to... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
You can't learn it by reading it. You have to live it. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Crucial to French wine-making is the notion of "terroir". | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Terroir is the connection of soils, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
pathological and geological, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
climates and the know-how or the talent of the winemaker. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:42 | |
Hmm. Complicated concept, terroir. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
When Australians started making wine, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
terroir took a back seat to more practical concerns. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
My uncle Dan used to sit in the corner, in a rocking chair. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
I remember him being in here one evening. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
I was with him. I was seven, something like that. Six or seven. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
He was a dead shot. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
A bloke could be sitting here and this bloody rat ran along the rafter. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
And he just went "Bang!" and the rat fell in the red fermenter. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
I said, "Do you want me to get that out, Uncle Dan?" | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
He said, "No, it'll add a bit of body to the wine. The ferment will kill it." | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
For fourth generation Hunter Valley winemaker Bruce Tyrrell, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
and his father, Murray, it wasn't just rats in the rafters | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
that made wine drinking somewhat unsavoury. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Back in the '50s and early '60s, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
if you drank wine, you were queer, eccentric or both. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
I had a girlfriend at university from a country town. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Her parents weren't sure I was a suitable person for her to be going out with | 0:04:43 | 0:04:49 | |
because I was a plonkie! | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
I got kicked out of the house | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
when I took some sparkling Burgundy to a lunch and not another drink. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Get outta here, you plonkie! And don't come back! | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
And she couldn't do the washing up. Her father was not pleased! | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Like the Tyrrells, the Hill Smith family from South Australia | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
struggled through the 1930s and '40s to make a living in the wine business. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
My father, Wyndham, was a bit of a cavalier, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
raconteur, sportsman. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
He carried with him the badge of being the first man in Australia | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
to face Larwood during the bodyline series. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
He came back to a business that was in jeopardy with the banks. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
And Dad set on a course of rescaping the way we did business, the wine we made. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
But still, through all those years, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
there wasn't growth in the game. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
There were lots of fashion moments where things took off | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
and people tried to chase the rainbow, but nothing eventuated. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Throughout the first half of the 20th century, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Australian winemakers had one big problem. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
No-one drank wine. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
The real Aussie went to the pub for rounds of beer with his mates. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
When you were in the pub, you had to buy your round. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
If you left before you bought your round, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
then you were a piker. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
And if there were nine people in the drinking group, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
that meant you had to drink nine beers. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
The Aussies' love affair with the pub | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
led to years of strict licensing laws | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and a unique drinking culture. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Hey, shut it, mate. We're closed. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
'We've got six o'clock closing of hotels, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
'we've got excessive restrictions on the drinking of alcohol in public places.' | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
And that really did sort of shape our drinking history, if you like, for the next 50 years. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
And we were, really, very aware of the six o'clock swill. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
And we were also aware of the five minutes past six | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
when everyone fell out the door of the pub, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
mostly drunk and incapable. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Binge-drinking beer was standard practice, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
even applauded. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
As for wine, that was for the dregs of society. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
There were wine saloons. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
Wine saloons had a very unfashionable reputation. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
They were largely home to the alcoholic, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
the old, the elderly, the lonely. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
With an almost non-existent market at home, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Australian winemakers looked for one overseas. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Britain was the obvious choice. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
But here, wine was only for the well-off, the well-bred | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
or the continentals. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
If you said wine, wine was one of those words that you had to have audible quotation marks round, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
like, "Wine." | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
"Ooh, wine's not for the likes of us!" | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Like you'd say round "Barbados". | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
People used to say that. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
"Wine's not for the likes of us." | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
It wasn't part of normal life at all. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
It was something very, very exotic. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
People thought because they were the wrong class, they literally couldn't drink wine. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
While wine drinking was rare in both Australia and Britain, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
the difference was Australia had the climate to grow grapes. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
They'd been making wine since the 1830s. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
But most of it was high alcohol fortified wine, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
like port and sherry. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
'The perfumed sherries are wonderful wines.' | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Especially for old ladies who can't sleep! | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
The high alcohol meant it travelled better than table wine | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
and much of it was exported to Britain. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
For "medicinal" purposes. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
-ADVERT: -'A fine brandy after dinner | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
'is a delight for the epicure. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
'While the same brandy is thoroughly known for its medicinal value everywhere.' | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Ah, that's Penfold's! | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
I'm going to hand round a bottle of medicated wine. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
This is when you could actually advertise that wine was good for you. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
This is probably from the '20s or the '30s. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
It's Penfold's. It's Australian. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
It says, "This preparation to be used as medicine only. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
"A glassful three times a day." | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
It is port enriched with beef extract and pure malt. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
It says, "It is of considerable assistance | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
"to those called upon to undergo feats of endurance, vocal, mental or physical. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
"Use regularly as directed and you MUST smile." | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
In the 1950s, less than half a per cent of the world's wine production | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
came from Australia. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
But that was about to change | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
as boatloads of new immigrants began to arrive down under. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
They brought with them new food and customs | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
and a taste for table wine. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
They're not necessarily approaching wine | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
with a view to understanding vintages and vineyards and all those sort of things. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
They just want a drink. But they're now eating foreign food. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
They're eating pizza, they're eating spaghetti. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
And so all that foreign influence | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
is associated with this other stuff, wine. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
While immigrants were spreading the wine-drinking habit, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Australian society was growing more affluent. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
More people owned cars | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
and they were beginning to travel. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
We find people from all walks of life coming here for our wine. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
And we find that younger people, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
and there are increasing numbers of younger people coming each week. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
For winemakers like Murray Tyrrell, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
this meant for the first time they had more customers than they could handle. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
'Of all the things my old man did, probably the most important one' | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
is he's probably the father of wine tourism in Australia. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
How much do you know about the wines you're buying, or are you depending on the winemaker? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
No, we're depending on the taste! | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
We reckon that Murray Tyrrell's got the game sewn up! | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
We're selling our total production here at our cellar doors | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
and we just can't meet demand. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
To meet the growing demand, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
Australian winemakers looked to the latest advances | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
in the science of winemaking. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
They brought pressure tanks, they brought cool fermenting systems, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
they brought cultured yeasts, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
they brought knowledge about how to use sulphur dioxide to predict the wine and the juice. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Perhaps the most significant change for the whole industry was refrigeration. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
So that in our hot summers, we could control the temperature of our ferments. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
And so the quality of Australian wines in the '60s | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
just sky-rocketed. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
On the back of its domestic success, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Australia set its sights on the major wine markets of Europe. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
But in 1965, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
international exports were still insignificant - | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
only eight million litres of wine a year, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
about one-fiftieth of France's total. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Most people in Europe never saw an Australian wine. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
They'd never tasted it. It was like anyone in Australia hearing about English wine. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
It just wasn't there. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
My father, who loved wine and drank good wine, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
his sister emigrated to Australia one year, just after the war. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
She would send us a case of Australian claret every year for Christmas. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
It was labelled Australian claret. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
My father wouldn't even drink it. He would say, "Just use it for cooking." | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
He didn't taste it. He just said, "It can't be any good." | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Australian wine needed a champion. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
An indefatigable soul to persuade the Europeans | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
that Australian wine was not a joke, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
but a sleeping giant to mock at your peril. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, would you please be seated where you will. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Len Evans was a man of many talents. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Golf professional. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Sculptor. And as head of the Australian wine bureau, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
a passionate advocate for Australian wine. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I think this country has a chance of becoming a wine nation of note. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
He genuinely believed that Australian wine had a world-beating future. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
He used to say that from way back. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
And I must say, I didn't believe him then. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
To help him spread the word in London, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Len Evans inherited the Australian Wine Bureau's only overseas office. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
But its location presented something of a challenge! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
There used to be something called The Australian Wine Bureau | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
in the most unlikely place in Soho, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
surrounded by sex shops, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
that had a nice dusty collection of all the wines that were then characteristic of Australia. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:30 | |
And that was the sole destination for ex-pats or visitors | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
or curious drinkers to go to to buy Australian wine. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
And to just be dealing with this almost hysterical bemusement | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
on people's faces was an endless toil! | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
Whether Len Evans liked it or not, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
the British still saw Australian wine as a joke. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Malcolm insisted we brought some wine. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
-How very kind of you. -It's a new Australian label. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-Australian? -Here's the white. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
"Wombat White." | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-And the red. -"Kanga Rouge". | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Malcolm bought them especially for you! | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
You know how he loves a really good wine. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Yes. Which is why he's given this rubbish to us! | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
We've always had a sort of love/hate relationship with Australians, as you know. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Particularly with sport. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
So there was a certain amount of bashing Australians as being uncouth | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
and their wines were uncouth and so on. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
"Couth" or not, there actually was a wine called Kanga Rouge! | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
When I arrived, they had the last bottlings of this vast volume of wine called Kanga Rouge. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:40 | |
I remember they had individual bottle labels. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Each of the bottles were numbered. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
I range up the previous winemaker | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
and said, "I've been given the opportunity of buying bottle number one of Kanga Rouge. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
"What do you think it's worth? 50? 100?" | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
And he said, "David, don't be so silly. We bottled 1,000 bottle number ones!" | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
That was the first I know of great marketing stories about the Australian wine industry! | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
While the marketing tricks and jokey names | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
created an image of a bottle best avoided, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
the wine itself was a pleasant surprise. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
I've got a bottle here of Kanga Rouge. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
That was the wine that people now laugh at. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
They've never tried it, the people who laughed at it. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I've tried it. I've drunk lots of this stuff. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
See what that says? Coonawarra. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Shiraz. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
1978. Not plonk. Not rubbish. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Top area of South Australia. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Top grape. Top year. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
And down there, alcohol, 10.9. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
And it tasted as rich and as juicy and as gorgeous as could be. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
If people laugh about this, they don't know what they're talking about. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Facing the prejudice head on, Len Evans served Australian wine | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
to the Circle of Wine Writers in London. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
I want you all to taste the sensation of this beautiful Australian wine. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
Kevin's having more! | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
They responded with predictable disdain. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
He then served the same wines blind at lunch. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
This time to great acclaim. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Number two was... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
That's what you call a great Australian wine! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
The chastened wine writers immediately made him a member of their circle | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
and Len Evans' blind tasting games are still popular around the world today. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
OK. You have a wine in front of you. First question. Is this Australian or not? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
The so-called "options game" | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
is played with almost religious conviction | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
at the annual Len Evans' tutorial, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
where young Australians learn the trade the Len Evans way. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Who says it is Australian? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
You are the only one who's correct. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Cheers! | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
While Len Evans was having some success with London's wine writers, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
throughout the 1970s, exports of Australian wine were actually declining. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
By contrast, France's doubled. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Len Evans needed help. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
And it came in the unexpected shape of a woman from Manchester. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
There was a job advertised. "Australian Trade Commission seeks a business development manager." | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
It was advertised for a man, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
which you couldn't do today, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
but the Trade Commissioner at the time, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
the Australian who was based there, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
said, "I think we'll give you a go." | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
So I started work with the Australian government in Manchester. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
An English person. Knew very little about, never been to Australia. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
I was given a range of products | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
that I had to look after to help the exporters. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
I worked with steaming coal, coking coal, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
cardboard mousetraps, Oak boots. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
And they asked me if I'd look after wine as well. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
I had no background in wine, no knowledge about wine. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
I didn't know anybody who drank wine at all. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
When Hazel started out, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
it's almost as though the industry was in such dire straights | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
that they had nothing to lose. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
They used to say, "Chateau Chunder from Down Under." | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
So we were climbing a pretty big mountain. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
It was like, "Let's let this crazy woman go out there and sell our wine for us." | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
She actually did that in the way of pouring it, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
and getting the winemakers to pour it, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
to tens of thousands of people. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
In the first year we did it, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
we probably did about 20,000 consumers at different events. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
What was interesting was that in those days | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
the French, Spanish and Italians didn't pour wine for the public. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
They didn't trust the public. The Australians did. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
I remember I was at the London Wine Trade Fair | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
and I was doing a tasting of something, Beaujolais, or something like that. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
And some bloody bloke knocked my elbow and I turned | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
and saw a really scruffy, unwashed kind of creature | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
in his khaki, and said, "Jack, can I have a word?" | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
I said, "I'm sorry. I'm busy. I'm doing a wine-tasting." | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
"Come on, give us a break, mate." | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
And he said, "What flavours do you like in your red wine?" | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
And I just thought, "I don't know." I remember saying to him, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
"Oh, um, blackcurrant, something like that." | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
And he said, "What about white wine?" | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
I said, "I don't know. Peaches. Tropical fruit. That kind of stuff. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
"Now, please, I'm really busy." | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
He said, "Hang on, mate. How much do you want to pay?" | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
I went, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
"I don't... £3.99. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
"And now, please, leave me alone." | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
A year later, I was at the London Wine Trade Fair again. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
And there was a knock on my arm again! | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
And I turned round and thought, "Looks and smells vaguely familiar!" | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
And the bloke says, "Here, no, come on." | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
And he gave me a glass of red wine. He said, "Try this." | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
And I tasted it and went, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
"Bloody hell, that tastes like blackcurrants!" | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
And he said, "Yeah, that's what you said you liked." | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
I said, "Jesus, how much is this?" He said, "£3.99. That's what you said you wanted to pay." | 0:21:08 | 0:21:14 | |
And he said, "I've got a white wine here." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
I said, "Don't tell me - it'll taste of peaches." | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
He said, "That's what you said you liked." | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
I said, "£3.99?" He said, "That's what you said you wanted to pay." | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
It was a revelation. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
The Australians made wine that we wanted. And they asked us what we liked. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
That had never happened in the world of wine before. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
While Australians were now making their wine according to British taste, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
the names sounded distinctly European. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Burgundy, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
Claret, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
Moselle. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And Hermitage. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
As Australia wine exports to Europe rose dramatically, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
the Europeans retaliated by banning the Australian use of European names. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
Australian winemakers turned adversity into advantage | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
by using the name of the grape variety instead. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
So Australia had to introduce the concept of varietal labelling. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
And that became very appealing to consumers | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
because they now suddenly realised what they were tasting. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
A French wine, you always had to know a bit of geography and a bit of history | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
and also have a bit of luck to get a decent wine. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Australian wine just said person's name, the grape variety. So simple! | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Like buying apples in a supermarket. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
That was the door opener that Australia walked through. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
JAUNTY TUNE | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Now, Aussie winemakers called their wine Shiraz instead of Hermitage, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
Cabernet instead of Claret, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and instead of White Burgundy, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
it was Chardonnay. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Australia's love affair with Chardonnay had started back in 1970 in the Hunter Valley. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
Murray Tyrrell discovered there were some Chardonnay vines next to his vineyard. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
Dad always talked about those | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
when they used to come past coming home from school as kids in the buggy. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
They'd always pull in and eat those grapes cos they were the ripest and the best flavour. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
And in those days, it was called white Pineau, P-I-N-E-A-U. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
The problem was, the so-called white Pineau belonged to Penfold's. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
We asked Penfold's three times could we have cuttings. They said no. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Using some Aussie initiative, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Murray and Bruce set off on a midnight mission | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
that would change the course of Australian wine. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
And after the third occasion, we snuck in one night and nicked 'em! | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
They weren't there at night when we did it. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
And after we'd had 'em, it was a bit late! | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
And that's our Chardonnay as you know it today. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
In Australia it got its start. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
With Chardonnay the new weapon of choice, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Australia launched its invasion of the British wine market. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Alongside Tyrrells, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
the invasion was spearheaded by Rosemount Estate, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
also from the Hunter Valley. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
It was a style of wine that the UK market hadn't seen. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
It was rich, it was round, it tasted of fruit. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
It was soft. It had a lot of things that were exciting. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
It had flavour. I think that's what was probably the key to it. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
I remember turning up at a big tasting in London that I think was at Lord's. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
And the Great British wine trade was there, most of it men, wearing suits with the right kind of accents. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
People used to drinking Burgundy all the time. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
And they had Rosemount Chardonnay for the first time. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
And it was like seeing people watching creatures from another planet! | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
The colour, the smell, the flavour, "What is this?" | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
It's a bit like seeing a naked woman for the first time! | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Lovers of Australian Chardonnay | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
came up with a new catch-phrase for their wine. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
"Sunshine in a bottle." | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Suddenly, all those sort of Monty Python jokes about Australian wine | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
began to fall away. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
The exciting new flavours of "sunshine in a bottle" | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
appealed to a society enjoying a social and sexual revolution. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
I think it's true that Australian wine has contributed to the feminisation of wine. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
I think it's because it arrived in Britain at a very particular historical moment. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
The career woman was born in the '80s | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
with her padded shoulders and her Filofax. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Younger women with degrees, alone in big cities, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
were going out, they needed something to do with friends. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Spit and sawdust pubs and pints of beer were not really what it was about. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
I would say that wine-drinking was always a big girlie in Britain, anyway. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
And by making wines less challenging and more fruit cocktaily, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
it probably did make it easier for girlies to drink it. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:43 | |
-# -Char-donnay | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
-# -It's the upmarket drink of today -# | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Ever the master of sexual politics, Australia's cultural attache | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
added his own perspective on the career girl's favourite tipple. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
-# -It used to be double Tequilas | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
-# -That could prize off the pants of those Sheilas | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
-# -But now they won't have it away, no way | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
-# -For less than a large Chardonnay! -# | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Despite the popularity of Chardonnay with the ladies, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
the movers and shakers in the British wine business | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
were still mostly men. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Hazel Murphy had an idea. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Bring a group of them out to Australia | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
to see where "sunshine in a bottle" actually came from. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
We arranged a trip for the aficionados of wine in the UK, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
the most highly respected, who were, at the time, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
not a very large group of masters of wine. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
He's not trying to make a white Burgundy. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
He's trying to make a damn good Australian Chardonnay. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
The Pinot '73. That's got a hell of a lot of colour. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
One of the masters of wine on the trip | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
was Bristol wine merchant John Avery. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
You have to realise that on that trip in '85, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
it represented about 70 to 80% of the entire buying power of the British wine trade. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
In one hit! | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
In those days, we were nearly all men | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
and Rosemount arranged for a bottle of their Chardonnay to be posted | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
to all the wives, with a note saying. "Your husband will be drinking this wine in Australia. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
-"Here's a bottle for you to taste." -How wonderful! | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
That was a brilliant marketing stroke, cos everyone came back | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
and all the wives said, "This is a wonderful firm. You must deal with them." | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
'It was fun. They came here. They kicked up their heels.' | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
They took away the sense of fun that we all have in what we do. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
There was always a serious tasting, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
lots of questions, lots of answers, very open. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
And then we'd go and have a glass of Cooper's Ale, you know? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
You don't do that in France, I suspect. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
They just took this whole thing back and said, "This is a new thing that we've discovered, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
"that we didn't know existed. And it's exciting, it's new and it's fresh. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
"And the people are nice!" | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
By the mid-1980s, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Britain was enjoying many influences | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
from the nice Antipodeans. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Australia was absolutely flavour of the month. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
You had the whole Neighbours thing. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Neighbours was, for many years following, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
an enormous influence on how people perceived Australia. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
You had Fosters starting TV ads with Paul Hogan. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
He'd done Crocodile Dundee | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
which was a huge hit. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
This is just like the dances at home. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
These things had just begun to make people see Australia in a different light. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
Strewth! There's a lad down there with no strides on! | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
The Fosters ads were very English humour. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
People realised the Aussie humour was very like the English humour. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
The shared language, culture and humour | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
paved the way for the wine to be sold on the back of the lifestyle down under. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
And who better to bottle the essence of Australiana | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
than a couple of Yorkshiremen? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
We were sat talking about how we were going to basically | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
give the British public Oz in a glass. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
We were able to come up with some ideas | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
which would really do a fantastic job | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
in communicating to a Brit with no knowledge | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
that there was something better out there. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Statements like "Putting the cat out" | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
actually set out exactly what the promise in the bottle was. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:58 | |
Aghhh! | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
And these posters put the theme of the cat and a quiet game of Bridge | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
versus jumping off the bridge with a bungee. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
This whole Australian aspirational lifestyle. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
And it really did capture the public's attention. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
'Australians are very particular about how they pick their wines. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
'And when they find a bottle they particularly like, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
'they'll go to considerable lengths to get it.' | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Yee-hah! | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
Consumers were engaged. They'd seen something they'd never seen before. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
It really excited people who normally weren't into wine. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
They were intimidated by it. They didn't understand it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
But here were these brands that actually spoke to them in a language they understood. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
'And you're sitting in middle England | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
'in a miserable Midlands town | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
'with fog all round you and a rotten job and the rain pouring down.' | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
And you get a glass of that. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
And you think of this somewhere, way south in the southern seas, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:55 | |
there's somewhere called Australia | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
making this kind of nectar! | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Britain's increasing interest in food and drink | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
was reflected by the imaginatively named BBC show, Food & Drink | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
and its flamboyant hosts Oz Clark and Jilly Goolden. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Anyway, now, at last, on to something to drink! | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
These Australian wines... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
'I realised there was absolutely no point in using' | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
traditional wine speak, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
which was all about breeding and structure and balance and finesse. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
Things that meant absolutely nothing | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
to the bloke at home, or his missus. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Then have a taste. See if they can carry through this medley of delicious succulent flavours. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
So I decided to use my point of reference | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
of what thing smelt and tasted like | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
to describe a wine as a thumbnail sketch. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
You've got the nectarines. You've got the lychees. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
All these lovely things. But you've got a zip of acidity as well. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
'I was the very first person in the world to do that.' | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Now every back label, every restaurant wine list, picks it up. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Oz is the man to ask about this. He's just come from down under. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
And I drank rather a lot! | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
Jilly and her equally enthusiastic side-kick were on a mission. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
..a refreshing wine. Jilly, we had to plough through a lot of stuff which was fairly washed out... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:21 | |
'Jilly and I decided we were going to try and democratise the world of wine.' | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
It sounds a bit silly, but we thought we could make a difference. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
We thought using wine we could make a difference, we could cut through class barriers. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
Get ready to put your schnozzle right into the glass and snort! | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Australia wine gave us the chance to say, "See this? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
"That bloke, his name's Tyrrell. Mr Tyrrell made this. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
"See that name, Chardonnay? Can you pronounce that? Chardonnay." | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
That is exactly what I want from an Australian white wine. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
'Tens of millions of people were watching this week by week.' | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
I said, "One other thing. On the bottom there, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
"Produce of Australia. Produce of Australia." | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
The Aussies don't let you down. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
With Oz and Jilly fuelling the British thirst for their wines, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
Aussie winemakers flocked to the European trade fairs. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
Excellent Aussie wine! | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
I like that. But it's half the price of the other one! | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Something's wrong somewhere! | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Probably the biggest congregation of us was in London | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
when there was the first wine trade fair in Olympia. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
And there was a big Aussie contingent. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
And I remember just this - it was like a crusade. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
Everyone who came in the door wanted to talk to the Australians. Cos it was fun! | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
I remember running around, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
and you got to the Australian stands | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
and not only was there people three, four, deep, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
pushing people out of the way to get a taste of these new Australian wines, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
but you had these guys behind these stands pouring these wines | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
and doing things like putting red wine in ice buckets cos it was so hot! | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Breaking all the rules. | 0:34:58 | 0:34:59 | |
I do remember looking at the regions of France and looking at their foot traffic. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
And these poor souls were standing behind their trestle tables | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
with their glasses and a few bottles of wine and absolutely no-one to talk to! | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
It was a revelation. It was actually quite exciting. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
I don't think the French have forgiven us yet. I don't think they ever will! | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Australia's democratic revolution was dismissed in France | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
as merely a triumph of marketing. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Marketing is good for the car. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Mercedes need the marketing. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
But not the wine! | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Marketing was the great black-out that Australia had mastered | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
and the French didn't place any importance in marketing. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
They thought the product would speak for itself. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
They thought we were hoodwinking the world with our clever marketing. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
The wine is for the food. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
When you have a nice chicken, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
at lunch, at dinner, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
with the nice potatoes, you don't need the marketing. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
It's a different mentality, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
different idea of the wine, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
and different idea about la culture du vin. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
And nothing epitomised the difference in "la culture du vin" | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
more than the great Australian invention, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
the wine cask, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:20 | |
also known as the bag in a box. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Or down under as "the goon bag". | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Most people hide this stuff! | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
'Orlando Coolabah.' | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
This was a bag in a box with a little tap on it. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It revolutionised drinking habits in Australia. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
It basically meant you could take four litres of wine, or whatever it was, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
and you could drink it over a period of days or even weeks, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
without it going stale. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
Because as the bag collapsed, there was no head space in there, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
no oxygen getting in there to oxidise the wine. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
A lot of that wine wasn't what we would call the greatest wine in the world. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
But it converted a lot of people to wine drinking. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
It made wine an everyday item in Australian households. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Its value and convenience meant by the mid-'80s | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
wine casks accounted for half of the entire Australian market. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
My parents drank a two-litre Yolanda cask as opposed to the four-litre because they were classier! | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
And goon bags continued to be an essential part of life | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
for many Australians. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
I remember one party using an empty inflated goon bag as a pillow. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
-Goon of fortune is where you... -Goon of fortune! | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
It's where you... Oh, it's so classy! | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
You tie the goon bag to the washing line and spin the line round. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-And, uh... -The wheel of fortune. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
This is a true lifestyle. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
There is a lifestyle for people who are very original, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
very clever, enjoy the poesie. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
And there is a lifestyle for people who have no taste. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
As more and more people developed a taste for wine, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Australia's position in the world as a wine exporter | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
soared from 18th in the early '80s | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
to sixth, ten years later. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
New wineries sprouted up all over the country | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
as wine exports to the UK increased 20-fold during the '90s | 0:38:35 | 0:38:41 | |
to 140 million litres. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
But the ever-increasing production of wine | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
caused one major headache for Australian winemakers. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Corks! | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
They were on the phone to Spain and Portugal, where all corks come from, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
saying, "We need more, more, more, more corks." | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
And the guys producing the corks simply could not process them. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
They couldn't get them through the cleansing process | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
which takes a very long time. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
And they were shipping off actually sub-standard corks. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
And instead of getting on the first plane to Spain or Portugal and giving them a punch | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
and saying, "Give us better corks", they didn't. They say, "OK, you shafted us. We'll shaft you." | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
So Australia developed a better alternative to cork. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
In fact, the Aussies had been testing an alternative for years. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
It was called the Stelvin, or screw cap. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
We've now been developing screw caps for over four decades. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
I could pour for you today the 1971 Autumn Riesling | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
initially bottled under screw cap. 40 years of age. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
A lovely hermetic seal, perfect! | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
The French looked on with horror | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
as another sacred cow was slaughtered. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
With a screw top, what do you remember? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Nothing. You open. Dup, dup, dup. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Where is the dream? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Where is the legend? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Screw caps is probably the last Waterloo for the French. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Because from the beginning, we know we've got to lost. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
The only thing you dream, you dream with a screw top, screw top more. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
You dream. People buy more. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
People remember, "I have a nice screw top. It's wonderful. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
"I make one, two, three. Oh, it was fabulous." | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
-It is for the wine. -Do you think it is good, that? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Because we don't have an image of sharing of the moment of opening | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
and the moment of the "Pop!" | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
This is a part of the magic as well. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Some French wineries embraced the innovative Australians | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
and even invited flying winemakers to France | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
to reveal some of the secrets of their success. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
There were about 16 of us who went over | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
over those five to ten years in the early 1990s. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
So what do we do? Nothing clever. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Nothing alchemist, nothing ridiculous space age. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
It was about sanitation, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
good, clean winemaking. We clean tanks. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Once I was inside the tank and I had the feeling I was being watched. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
I stuck my head out and there were ten Frenchmen | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
wandering what the noise was inside the tank. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
They'd never seen that before. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
All the tanks were clean on the outside but dirty on the inside. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
The English wine trade loved it. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
They were advertising it as a French wine made by an Australian winemaker. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
What a great turnaround for the Australian wine industry | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
that ten years earlier was making Chateau Chunder! | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
ANGRY VOICES | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
But not everyone in France was so welcoming of outside influences. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
A militant group called CRAV, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
the Committee for Viticultural Action, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
attacked the foreign imports that threatened their local industry. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
The CRAV is quite a nasty little group of people | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
who have taken activism to its ultimate | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
of setting fire to wineries and emptying tanks and breaking windows. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
I think it's quite a brave supermarket in the south of France | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
in Beziers, or that region, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
would put a bottle of Jacob's Creek on their shelves. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
As viticultural extremists smashed up commercial wine imports, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
a British writer appeared on a leading French TV show | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
armed with a bottle of Australia's finest. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
'I was the only non-French guest.' | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
All the rest were very high up French men of wine. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
We each had to bring a bottle of wine to serve to our fellow guests. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
I'd just come back from Australia so I had a bottle of Grange. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
'You should have seen their noses wrinkled up' | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
even before they'd got the nose to the glass. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
I mean, oh, it was dismissed as a sort of "pharmacist's wine"! | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
'They were so patronising and really contemptuous,' | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
both towards me and towards the whole of Australian wine. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
But Australia had the last laugh | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
when, in 1999, the hugely influential US magazine Wine Spectator | 0:43:55 | 0:44:01 | |
put Penfold's Grange on its front cover. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
'The '55 Grange was on the front page' | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
as one of the 12 wines of the 20th century. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
You know, that sort of acknowledgement, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
retrospectively, decades later, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
does as much for a wine as, say, a review of the current vintage. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
Penfold's had been making Grange, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
a high-end blended Shiraz, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
since 1951, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:26 | |
long before the Chardonnay boom. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
I have been able to taste back every two or three years back to '52 Grange. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:35 | |
And that has reaffirmed, time and time again, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
the extraordinary capacity that Grange has | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
to age over a minimum of 20 years. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
'I think Grange is a rock'n'roll wine.' | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
It's actually a wine that takes you and takes you on a journey | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
that other wines don't do. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
By the mid-'90s, Britain's enthusiasm for Australian wine | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
was matched by the Americans. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
And leading the chorus was the world's most influential wine writer, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
the so-called "emperor" of wine, Robert Parker Jnr. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
The people who are making good wines | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
do get recognised immediately, where 30 years ago, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
the school of thought was they had to make good wine for 20 years before we give them any credit. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
I think Robert Parker, to some extent, launched Australian wine into the US market | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
and made the Barossa famous. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
Those big Barossa reds got 100 out of 100 | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
and suddenly went from 10 to 200 a bottle. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
What Hazel was doing, people were doing in the UK, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
was saying that Australian wines were great and cheap and cheerful, that sort of thing. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
Whereas Robert Parker said these wines aren't just good value for money, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
this country makes some of the greatest wines in the world. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
Parker's Wine Advocate magazine was seen as an independent voice | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
and a swathe of cash-rich young Americans had money to invest in fine wines. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:13 | |
On Parker's word, the Silicon Valley set from the dot.com boom bought up big. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:20 | |
Some Aussie wine producers became millionaires overnight. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
Robert is so powerful so that once you get 100 points from Parker | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
you're put into a different league. For example, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
Parker re-reviewed one of my wines several years ago | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
and upgraded it from 99 points to 100. You wouldn't think that would make any difference, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
but the few cases of that wine that we had left basically sold out within seconds. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
Robert Parker's enthusiasm for their wine | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
encouraged Australians to target the cheaper end of the lucrative US market too. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
John Casella, son of Italian immigrants, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
found the Americans keen to try his new easy-drinking brand Yellow Tail. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
They saw Australia as the next big thing | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
and hence we were given shelf space, we were given opportunities. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
Yellow Tail arrived at just the right time. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
We didn't have to age it for years in barrels. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
We didn't have to wait for a perfect vintage. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
It was something that we could do continuously | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
and grow at an ever-increasing pace. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
In the first year, their target was 25,000 cases. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
They sold over a million! | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Now the family winery looks like this. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
Yellow Tail boasts storage capacity for 230 million litres of wine. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:44 | |
It produces 58,000 bottles an hour | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
on the fastest bottling line in the world. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
Of all bottled products now leaving Australia, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
20% bear the Yellow Tail logo. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
We've brought a lot of people to Australian wine that would have normally not bought Australian wine. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:09 | |
So the effect has been positive rather than negative. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
In 2001, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
the year Yellow Tail launched in America, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Australian wine imports to Britain were up to 171 million litres, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:23 | |
just over half that of France. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Only two years later, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
it was 243 million litres | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
and overtook a declining France | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
to become the number one wine importing country to the UK. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
'An enormous amount of success, so much so | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
'there's a whole generation of English drinkers | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
'who have been brought up probably drinking nothing else other than Australian wine.' | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
Australian wine revolutionised the way that people in the UK and Ireland drank wine. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
They blazed a trail and changed the drinking habits of the British Isles. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Take that, Monty Python! We won! | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
I love Aussie wine, yeah. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
It's lovely. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
Shanny-shanny-shanny! Oi! Oi! Oi! | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
While the Aussie winemakers celebrated their success, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
the smell of money attracted outside admirers. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
Large corporations salivated over the rapidly increasing sales figures | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
and targeted wineries with offers of big cash buy-outs. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
During the '90s, there was this massive global intrigue | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
about wine, in wine, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
wanting to invest in wine, wanting to acquire wineries. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
And we had a lot of people making phone calls. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
And I would always say, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
"Look, don't bother. Just don't bother. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
"I'll see you coming up the drive and I'll just shoot you." | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
For some family-owned wineries, history meant more than the bottom line. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
You keep looking back and saying, "What are the runs on the scoreboard? | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
"What have we achieved? Is it measurable in dollars?" | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
Possibly not. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
But by the start of the new millennium, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
it was increasingly difficult to keep the fat cats out. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
Soon, 80% of the country's wine production | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
was controlled by only four companies. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
The breweries came in. Spirit producers came into the wine game. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
They didn't understand the cycle. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
They thought it was on a perpetual trend line | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
that went from west to east like that. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
Even Rosemount, with its all-conquering Chardonnay, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
couldn't hold out against the tide of corporate takeovers | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
as beer company Southcorp, now owned by Foster's, bought them out. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
Rosemount is a very different business today from when it was a family company. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
I think it reinforces the concept that wine companies are probably best run by families. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:51 | |
For breweries, beer is made to a weatherproof recipe. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
So the new owners had little patience for the mysteries of time and climate. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
The wine industry is a long-term thinking area | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
where you really need to be planning a long way ahead, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
as far as planting vineyards, exploring regions, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
trialling grape varieties. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
So that is completely at odds with the short-term thinking of corporations | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
who are always thinking about returns for shareholders. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
The big companies just do not get it. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
They think they can rationalise, streamline, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
make marketing and sales, distribution, those things, bound together, more effective. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:32 | |
And, in fact, they march rapidly in the opposite direction. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
There is a point at which growth has to slow down. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
Nobody can go on exponentially growing. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Australia got caught up in its own hype, if you like, and started believing its own bullshit. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
And a lot of us at the time started saying, "Is it really going to keep going like this? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
"Are you sure that common sense wouldn't dictate that it'll start slowing off? | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
"No? OK. Right. We'll just keep going, shall we? Fine." | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
And keep going they did. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
The industry set a target of 4.5 billion turnover for 2025, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:12 | |
a target that was hit 20 years early. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
That of itself should have sounded a note of warning. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
It's an agricultural industry after all, at its base. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
A combination of corporate control | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
and government tax breaks | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
meant that more and more vines were being planted each year. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
And quality was beginning to suffer. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
The world was flooded with sub-standard Australia wine. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
When Australia started dumping cheap glut stuff on our market, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
I just thought, "I can't believe this!" | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
You've worked so hard to say Australian wine always over delivers | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
and now you're breeding a new generation of people who are saying, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
"We've moved on from Australian wine cos Australian wine under delivers." | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
Whoever was left drinking Australian wine, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
was the wrong kind of ambassador. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Bridget Jones was partial to a bottle of Chardonnay... | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
-Or six. -..by herself. -In the Cafe Rouge, yes. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
-By herself. -With her friends. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
And after that, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
-it's... -Especially after the film. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
-It became a bit of a loser's choice. -It was a bit naff. -It was a bit sad. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:32 | |
It wasn't the greatest of looks. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:33 | |
It was the final nail in the coffin for Chardonnay. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
Footballers' Wives was on at the same time. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
And one of them was actually called Chardonnay. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
"Chardonnay! Chardonnay!" That's what did it. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
Whether Footballers' Wives or Bridget Jones were to blame, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Australian wine was facing a crisis. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
What happened in this whole recent story | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
is that people, to a degree, got a little lackadaisical | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
and a little bit corporatised as people. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
That wasn't the Australia that people were buying into. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
All of us had had enough of Australia's industrial junk. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
And so we set out to get the things that were great about Australia's wine | 0:54:14 | 0:54:20 | |
back in front of the world. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
There's more great wine being made in this country today than ever in its history. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
There's more interesting wine, more diversity of wine style. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
Australian winemakers are now focused on reflecting the variety | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
that comes from a land with more wine regions than anywhere else. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
We're looking more at regionality and individual vineyard site. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
Those wines which are about that sense of place | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
rather than looking at how are we going to get the biggest crop | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
or how are we going to make the most wine. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
So it's everything. You incorporate everything. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
It's the land, it's the vines, it's the people. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
It's the whole farm. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
I suppose, in a way, it equates with the French word "terroir". | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
The land, the vines, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
terroir. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
The Aussies are starting to sound almost French! | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
And in the Rhone valley in southern France, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
there's a French winemaker with a fondness for all things Australian. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
You can't imagine how much I've learned in Australia. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
Australia was in the 21st century when France was still in the 19th century. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
As well as boasting one of the largest collections of Aboriginal art in the northern hemisphere, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:47 | |
Chapoutier has invested heavily in Australian vineyards. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
I have seen some of the most beautiful soils in the world there. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
I really think that today, a lot of French winemakers | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
are observing what's happened in Australia | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
and trying to take inspiration in this direction. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
French and Australian winemakers are now philosophically closer than ever before. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:18 | |
And the new generation is helping close the gap yet further. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
'The old generation in France, my parents' generation, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
'were more, "If it's a good wine it will sell by itself", blah, blah, blah. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:33 | |
But also the thing that maybe my generation | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
are starting to think about, "Yes, we need marketing" | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
and of course when we see some kangaroo on the bottle, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
we have to say, "OK, we have to do something like this." | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
And some French wines are doing exactly that. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
The marketing is really well done | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
because you really understand what is the variety, what is the grape. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:07 | |
And there is also a touch of humour | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
because some French wines are really boring! | 0:57:11 | 0:57:16 | |
Ribet! Ribet! Ribet! | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
The first one we've got is quite unusual. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
It's a sparkling wine from Australia. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
It's actually from Tasmania | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
and it contains Chardonnay, Pinot Noir and Pinot Meunier, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
the classic champagne grapes. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
Australian wine has gone from Chateau Chunder | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
to "sunshine in a bottle" to the mystery of terroir | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
in a single generation. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
The Australian wine is a little bit more expressive, a bit more intense. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
It is from a sunnier place. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
From Old World to New World, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
from banquet hall to beach party, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
whatever your taste - or lack of it - | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
the Aussies have taken us from laying down and avoiding their wine | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
to standing up and celebrating it. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
Whenever I encounter Australian winemakers, | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
they're still on a quest, all desperately trying to make each vintage better than the last. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:13 | |
It's like the French would say their best wine was made 100 years ago. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
You ask us, our best wine hasn't been made yet. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
# Dimiat, Oremus, Johannisberg, Teinturier, | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
# Montonico and Zinfandel And Carignan and Malaga | 0:58:24 | 0:58:26 | |
# And Rolle Bombrio Bianco And Gloria Mortagua | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
# Centurion, Camaralet, Franconian, Picutener | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
# And Carmenere, Tersallier, Marzemino, Livatica | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
# And Bouvier and Monastrell and Travenger and Trollinger | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
# There's Muscadet, Viognier and Muscat Blanc a Petits Grains | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
# And also Maritetico with Estadio Cubillo | 0:58:42 | 0:58:44 | |
# And ruby Claret and Roussillon and Sauvignon | 0:58:44 | 0:58:46 | |
# And Riesling, Mischa, Malbec, Marzemino and Semillon | 0:58:46 | 0:58:49 | |
# These are amongst the ones | 0:58:49 | 0:58:51 | |
# Of which the news has come to Jancis | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
# There may be many others But I don't fancy their chances! # | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
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