Food in England: The Lost World of Dorothy Hartley


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"Fire is elemental and primitive,

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"the most miserable situation clears up when somebody gets the fire going.

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"It should be lit, burn up and boil a kettle within 20 minutes."

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Well, it's taken me a bit longer than 20 minutes

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but I didn't write those words.

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They come from Food In England,

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published in 1954 by Dorothy Hartley

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and I use this book the whole time

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in my work as a historian and a curator. It's just brilliant.

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It's packed full of the most extraordinary, intriguing,

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fascinating little things you didn't know about history.

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Food In England was the product of more than 30 years of research.

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Its 600 pages are fabulously well-written.

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They describe how food and kitchen utensils and cooking techniques

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were central to the lives of every single person in Britain,

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rich and poor.

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And the book's also full of Dorothy's own lively illustrations.

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I've been a big fan of Dorothy Hartley's best-known book

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for a long time

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but I have to admit I don't know much about the woman herself.

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In this programme, I'm hoping to find out

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who this elusive and eccentric author really was,

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and what she achieved in her life.

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To do this, I'm going to meet some of her many and fervent admirers.

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Look at all the detail, it's just so remarkable.

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-Don't tell anybody this, will you?

-LUCY LAUGHS

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I forged her signature and posted it off.

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THEY BOTH LAUGH

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-Let's go!

-ALL: Yes!

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I'm going to recreate parts of the lost world

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she describes so well in Food In England.

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Oh, he's opened his little eyelid!

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Oops!

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BLEATING

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I haven't finished, come back!

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And I'm going to follow in her footsteps, from the Yorkshire Dales,

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all across the Midlands to her final home on the borders of Wales.

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I can't promise you

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that I'm going to sleep in the hedgerows like she did,

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but I AM determined to discover who she was,

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why she wrote this book and to pinpoint

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just how big a contribution it makes to the history of what we eat.

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Food In England is a treasure trove, it's a reference book

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but also a thoroughly good read.

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It ranges from Saxon cooking, to the Industrial Revolution

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with chapters on everything from seaweed to salt.

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But to me, it's not a conventional history book.

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It hasn't got proper references to source material or footnotes

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and historians like me worry about things like that.

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Does this really matter, though, when the heat's on in the kitchen?

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I'd like to know what cooks think about Dorothy Hartley.

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To find out, I've come to ask the award-winning chef

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and food writer, Rowley Leigh.

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I'm interested in Food In England because of what it tells us

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about the history of food, but what interests you in it as a chef?

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I love her concentration on what the food means.

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Not in terms of mythology but in its place in the culture and...

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When she talks about mutton, for example,

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she talks about half a dozen different types of mutton,

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when they're at their best, where they come from, what they feed on,

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what gives them a different flavour.

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And the cooking element is just how to exploit that.

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What sort of impression has Dorothy Hartley made on you

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and your cooking?

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I think she's reinforced, really, my ideas about food.

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I bang on about seasonality and context.

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I want to eat asparagus in May, for example,

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not because that's the best asparagus - although it is -

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not just because it's English and not French - although it is -

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I want to eat it then because that's when it feels right

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as part of that rhythm. It's spring, it's a shoot

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and it comes after the deprivations of Lent and everything else.

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It's that celebration.

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If you have asparagus at Christmas, you've just lost that.

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You know, that's an integral part of her thinking, I think.

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Rowley is demonstrating that very principle.

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He's cooking two dishes that Dorothy reckons are perfect in spring -

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red mullet and roast duck with fresh peas.

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-Phwoar, it's pretty hot.

-It's quite warm.

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What I like is although this is a hugely hi-tech thing, actually,

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Dorothy shows a picture of meat

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-being roasted in exactly the same way.

-Absolutely.

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-With a vertical wall of flame.

-This is what roasting means.

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When people put something in an oven, it's sort of baking with steam.

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This is proper, old-fashioned roasting,

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where it's only cooking in its own fat,

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you just get the flavour of the meat itself on an open fire.

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The duck will take another hour but the mullet's ready.

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Wrapped in paper with butter and seasoning

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and baked whole for just 30 minutes. Dead simple.

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-Do you want to give it a go?

-Yes, please.

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Wow, that's really salty and anchovy-like. Bleurgh!

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That's not what I was expecting at all.

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Mmm, that is super-delish.

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-And you did hardly anything to it at all?

-I've done nothing, yes.

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It's a respectful way to treat a beautiful fish.

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-Absolutely.

-Yes.

-Yes.

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What would you say to Dorothy Hartley

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if she were to walk into the room now?

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"Have some of the mullet, lass."

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Ha! Very good.

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"Please consider this book as an old-fashioned kitchen,

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"not impressive, but a warm, friendly place,

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"where one can come in any time and have a chat with the cook."

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This book is an amazing treasure trove of information.

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Not only history,

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but tradition and anthropology and culture in society.

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And it's also a book about Dorothy herself.

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It's quite autobiographical.

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Here is a picture of her own grandfather's egg cosy,

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with its knitted pom-pom on top.

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She said it was "just like a woolly nightcap."

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"The breakfast egg was a Victorian institution.

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"Really nice homely families kept their eggs coddled in hot water

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"under a china hen."

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"According to superstition, empty eggshells

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"should always be broken up, lest witches make boats thereof."

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The first chapter is her memory of all the different kitchens

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that she's used throughout her lifetime.

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The earliest of them are in Yorkshire.

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She was born in Skipton, so that's where I'm off to now.

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Skipton is a busy market town

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at the southern end of the Yorkshire Dales.

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The Hartley family were based just up the hill from here.

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But they didn't live in an ordinary house.

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This is the place where Dorothy was born.

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It's a pretty gloomy and austere-looking place

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for a little girl to grow up.

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It was and it is the local boy's grammar school.

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Her father was the headmaster.

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He came here in 1876,

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and his third child, Dorothy, was born in 1893,

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probably in his own private rooms, part of the main school building.

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Today, some of the boys are going to have a go at recipes

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Dorothy would have eaten here at the school in the 1890s.

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And, at lunchtime,

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'the rest of the pupils are going to try what they've made.

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To be honest, I'm not sure how well it's going to go down.

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-What are you going to be making?

-We're making stargazy pie.

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Now, what is that? People won't know what it is.

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It's basically herring pie,

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but you've got the herring heads sticking out the sides.

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The heads are sticking out.

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-Do you think this is going to go down well in the canteen?

-No.

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Go!

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'All these recipes come from Food In England.'

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-I think it'll taste better than it looks.

-I think you're right.

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'The desserts are oatmeal pudding...

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'..and that's semolina.

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'That's mutton broth made of sheep's' bones,

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'a staple here in Dorothy's day.

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'And this is the dough for Yorkshire teacakes.'

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'And finally, stargazy pie.'

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Why do you leave the heads on them?

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-If we cut them off and we cook them, we'll lose all the oil.

-OK.

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That's what it's going to look like.

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While the students are cooking,

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I'm going to find out what late Victorian life was like

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at the school for Dorothy and her family.

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So this room that we're in, now it's the library,

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it used to be The Big School, it's called in 1896,

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What went on in here? Is it a big classroom?

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Yes, it's really the main teaching room.

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How many boys are we talking about?

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You're talking about 80 boys overall, of whom about...

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never more than 30 in this period would've been boarders.

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So here is Dr Hartley, the headmaster,

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Mrs Hartley, the Hartley kids

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and that's little Dorothy there.

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What sort of a man was he?

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He looks very respectable here in his mortarboard.

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Yes, you have to remember

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the headmaster of the grammar school had a real status.

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It was a minor squirearchy, so there was that sort of distance

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and respect, in a way.

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I have to say, Dorothy, in all these pictures, looks a little bit grumpy.

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-Yes.

-Would you like to share your childhood home with 80 boys?

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-I'm not sure I would.

-I don't think so, I don't think so.

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Dorothy's mother, Mrs Hartley,

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she was involved in the running of the school, wasn't she?

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She was, I think pretty well the sole runner of the school.

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There's nobody but a matron, which they can't always afford,

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-plus a sort of odd-job man...

-Oh.

-You see.

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So, Mrs Hartley, she's essentially the head of catering.

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I think she's probably the only caterer, really, most of the time.

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-Oh, golly.

-From the finances,

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I can't see how it could've been run in any other way

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without her doing almost all the work herself.

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Producing food for 80 boys.

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And this made an impression on Dorothy. She remembers it.

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She describes the school kitchen here.

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She said it was "masculine and enterprising."

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I guess they had to be enterprising to feed all of those boys.

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She talks about home-made bread,

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"Rising each week in a huge tub set before the fire."

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And, "Piles of Yorkshire teacakes came daily from the baker."

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DOROTHY: "It was here that I first realised

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"the specialities of England...

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"bilberries from the mountains in leaking purple crates.

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"From the east coast, came barrels of herrings.

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"Oxfordshire sent crates of wonderful fruit.

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"From the north, came sacks of oatmeal."

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Roll up, roll up, get some stargazy pie.

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Fish heads! Fish tails! Herrings!

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-Do you have to eat the head and the tail?

-No, you're not,

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but they're there to give it extra flavour.

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OK, can I have a bit, please?

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Which one would you like, sir?

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I don't even like fish!

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Get some stargazy pie.

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-Can I have some of that?

-Get it whilst it's warm.

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-Going to eat it all? Promise?

-Yes.

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'They'll eat anything you put out for them.'

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They like to come to school, have a bacon sandwich

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and then, at break time, they come out with big slices of pizza,

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then they come and have big bowls of pasta and home-made cake.

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And then they go home and eat again.

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Imagine Mrs Hartley, then, the headmaster's wife,

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catering for 80 growing boys. How did she do it?

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I don't know.

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She must have worked from five in the morning till ten at night.

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It's nice.

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Yeah, it's nice.

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Normal food's nicer.

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Normal food is nicer. Oh, OK.

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Verdict on the semolina?

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-Good.

-Good.

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THE BOYS CHATTER

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The Hartleys ate pretty well at the school.

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Not so, people in the poorer farming communities nearby.

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'In Food In England, Dorothy writes of families in the Dales,

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'whose diet depended on what they could produce

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'from the land around them.'

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'If you came here 100 years ago,

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'you would've seen a different sort of farming.'

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It would've been more of a mixed farming.

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There would've been sheep and cattle,

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but there would've also been crops, particularly oats

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and a variety of barley that does well at this altitude called bigg.

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You're about 800 feet above sea level here.

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Wheat is just not going to succeed.

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Most villages were surrounded with oat fields.

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Mmm. It's kind of got more boring, in a way, hasn't it?

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Well, we had to be self-sufficient and, of course, we aren't any longer.

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-Yes, no, no.

-And that's really what this sort of food was about, really.

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-Self-sufficiency.

-Yes.

-Northern grit.

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Survival.

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'Dorothy visited the Dales regularly as a child.

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'Later, she described how oats

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'were the basic ingredient of meals up here.'

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Oatcake and porridge were the two staples of this region

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and every farmhouse, every village,

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every area developed their own ways of making various oatcakes.

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They often went by their Norse name,

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they were sometimes called "haver-carke," or "have-a-cake."

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Does it not mean, "Have a cake, help yourself"?

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No. The word "hafer," or "haver," is a Norse word meaning oats,

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so haversack is a bag for putting your oats in.

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Ah, so it is.

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-I've already made some batter.

-Batter. What's in the batter?

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It's a mixture of very, very fine sifted oatmeal,

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milk, water, a little bit of salt and some yeast.

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-Easy-peasy then?

-Yeah. If you bring the bowl over

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and get as close as you can without burning yourself...

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OK? I'm going to ladle that on to the girdle like that.

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And I get the scraper and I...

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go like that with it.

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There you go. We just let that cook.

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This is really food that has absolutely vanished and disappeared.

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You dip it in your soup, for your evening meal,

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you'd wrap up cheese in it.

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It's very nice. Really good stuff. Well worth reviving, I think.

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-Don't burn yourself.

-Thank you.

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Yes, that's it. Use your fingers. That's it, perfect.

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-OK? Shall I hang that up for you?

-Er, I can do it.

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-Ooh!

-Brilliant.

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What do you think of Dorothy Hartley?

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Where does she fit into the history of food for you?

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Dorothy is part of a group of people who started to actively

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try to investigate disappearing customs.

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People like Cecil Sharp, who was collecting folk songs

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and folk dances in the early 20th century.

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There was also a contemporary of Dorothy Hartley called Florence White

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who was a founding member of the English Folk Cookery Association

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and I think all of them realised they were living at a time

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when rural customs were vanishing rapidly.

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And I think the whole point of their activities

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was to try and record these things before they entirely disappeared.

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-That's what's really valuable, her work as an oral historian.

-Yes.

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That's the richest part of the book,

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is where she actually talks to a ploughman or a shepherd.

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It's when you hear the voice of a lady

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who's describing how she scrapes the bristles off her pig

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after she's killed it with a candlestick, you know.

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It's that kind of thing that's so marvellous about it.

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-That is the best bit of the book.

-That's the world we have lost.

-Yes.

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DOROTHY: "In old-fashioned country houses,

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"no housemaid's box was complete without a couple of goose pinions.

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"Those strong, firm plumes which were so excellent for dusting ledges.

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"A stiff, trimmed goose pinion is also kept by the lady's maid

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"for taking the dust from velvet."

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SHEEP BLEAT

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Dorothy remembered the Yorkshire Dales

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from her very earliest childhood.

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But, at the start of the 20th century,

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she and her family moved down to the warmer landscape of the Midlands.

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By 1904, Edward Hartley was losing his eyesight.

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He had to give up his job

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as headmaster of the boy's school in Skipton.

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Instead, he became a rector in Rempstone in Nottinghamshire -

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quite a small parish - and the family moved south.

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They ended up living here,

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in this Elizabethan, rambling, impressive house.

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And this is only the back!

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DOROTHY: "A lovely old house, with every medieval inconvenience.

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"The nearest shop was five miles away and we had no car.

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"A butcher called once a week. A grocer, once a fortnight."

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'Dorothy was 11 years old when her family arrived here.

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'And now she had a room of her own at the top of the house.'

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"It was a double turn of wooden stairs

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"and a low door into a little room

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"and a second door up wooden steps to a further attic.

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"The old thatch was rotting and full of birds' nests

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"and there, crouched and cold, I worked from dawn.

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"I loved that room.

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"It was my citadel against all the hard work of long days

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"and, in it, I wrote my first book and got my Master's art degree."

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So this is the very place that Dorothy would work,

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between dawn and the time she had to leave to go to art school

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and she used to feed the starlings out of the window here.

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And we know that for a fact,

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because, many years later, she wrote letters about it.

0:19:340:19:37

Do you think she's being a bit melodramatic here

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when she talks about how the old thatch

0:19:430:19:45

was rotting up there in the attic?

0:19:450:19:47

-No, because it was very much like that when I bought it!

-Oh, OK.

0:19:470:19:52

It wasn't thatched, but..

0:19:520:19:53

'Felicity Fletcher-Wilson bought the rectory in 1999

0:19:530:19:57

'and, during renovations, she discovered a secret stash

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'of Dorothy's letters, written to the previous owner.'

0:20:000:20:03

What's great about these letters is that they're very personal,

0:20:030:20:06

they're her reminiscences about her life.

0:20:060:20:09

I think that's what's nice about them,

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because you read in the book about the house,

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and it doesn't mention the name or anything,

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but you can put the letters to the book

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and come out with a completely different story

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and something that's very, very personal, actually.

0:20:200:20:23

I like the description of how she prepares her workroom.

0:20:230:20:27

She scrubbed the oak beams in the wall with hot vinegar.

0:20:270:20:31

It's not what you'd expect a teenager to be doing -

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-scrubbing old beams with hot vinegar.

-No, not at all.

0:20:340:20:37

Dorothy quickly became a professional artist, didn't she?

0:20:370:20:40

I think, at this time, she was already doing artwork.

0:20:400:20:44

I found some illustrations of Dorothy's

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in a book by Geoffrey Henslow.

0:20:470:20:49

And there are some 90-odd illustrations in here,

0:20:490:20:54

which goes to show what a busy girl she was.

0:20:540:20:58

They seem to just set up all the things

0:20:580:21:00

that she's going to be interested in.

0:21:000:21:02

There's a real attention to historical costume,

0:21:020:21:05

-and also there's a lot of landscapes and countryside.

-Yes, there are.

0:21:050:21:09

These are just the things that captured her imagination.

0:21:090:21:13

Now, this letter's really interesting because it's about food.

0:21:130:21:17

We've got a sort of edible history of Edwardian Rempstone village here.

0:21:170:21:21

Yes, we have.

0:21:210:21:22

I really like the fact that, in the cottages,

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she says people don't have scales and they can't write.

0:21:250:21:27

So when she says "How much of that?"

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They say, "About as much as Jim could eat at a meal"!

0:21:290:21:33

"That much!"

0:21:330:21:34

"After the bleak North,

0:21:480:21:50

"everything in the Midlands seemed warm, rich and ripe.

0:21:500:21:54

"The mutton was fat, the cakes full of eggs,

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"and, in September, we made wonderful wines and jams and rich preserves."

0:21:580:22:02

By comparison with life in Yorkshire,

0:22:160:22:18

this village must have seemed like a living larder, really.

0:22:180:22:21

There's just so much food here.

0:22:210:22:24

And so much of it.

0:22:250:22:27

Just behind there were the pigsties, where Dorothy's pigs lived,

0:22:270:22:31

and they must have eaten these pears off this tree above me.

0:22:310:22:35

'Like sensible thrifty country people,

0:22:360:22:38

'the Hartleys wasted nothing when their pig was killed.

0:22:380:22:42

'Including his head!'

0:22:420:22:45

Follow the cut down the middle and split the head into two pieces...

0:22:450:22:48

'I'm helping pig keeper Tom to make a kind of pate called brawn,'

0:22:480:22:52

'in Dorothy's kitchen and using her own recipe.'

0:22:520:22:55

-SAW SCRAPES BONE

-Oooh!

0:22:550:22:58

Did you feel that against the bone?

0:22:580:22:59

I shouldn't have thought about cutting someone's leg off!

0:22:590:23:02

-I think you're going to have to give a demo.

-Right, I'll give it a try.

0:23:050:23:08

Going a little bit off course.

0:23:080:23:10

Yeah, it's not going down the middle, is it?

0:23:100:23:12

Should be OK, though. It's all going to end up in the same place.

0:23:120:23:16

That's it.

0:23:180:23:19

Yay! Well done! Look at that.

0:23:220:23:25

-I think I think we've got it.

-Oh, look at his teeth!

0:23:250:23:28

Look at his brain!

0:23:280:23:29

This bowl here, we'll put all the nasty bits in

0:23:290:23:32

like tongue, brain, eyeballs. Things like that.

0:23:320:23:34

Got to get the eye out next.

0:23:340:23:36

Best way to do that is if you feel around,

0:23:360:23:39

you can sort of feel an eye cavity...?

0:23:390:23:41

-Round the bone.

-Oh, he's opened his little eyelid!

0:23:410:23:46

Put the knife in and follow the bone all the way around.

0:23:460:23:49

Try and cut underneath the eyeball,

0:23:490:23:50

so you take the eyelid and everything out from underneath.

0:23:500:23:53

Oh, my goodness, that is so frightening and horrible!

0:23:530:23:57

There we are. Very good.

0:23:570:24:00

Oh!

0:24:000:24:01

This is a curious mixture of disgusting and wonderful.

0:24:010:24:05

This seems like a really horrible, alien, strange experience.

0:24:050:24:11

But I suppose that, as modern people, we're the odd ones out,

0:24:110:24:14

we're the ones who aren't familiar...

0:24:140:24:16

Ooh, there's his eye! ..with this.

0:24:160:24:18

But, for centuries, people would have just been used to doing this.

0:24:180:24:22

They would've been.

0:24:220:24:23

I think we've become quite detached in recent years

0:24:230:24:26

from how our food is prepared, made and where it comes from.

0:24:260:24:30

Killing the pig in the autumn, everybody did it?

0:24:300:24:33

Yes, everyone would club together,

0:24:330:24:35

and they'd have a pig processed in a day.

0:24:350:24:37

They'd do all the brawn, all the butchery, make sausages, cure bacon.

0:24:370:24:41

Everyone would club together and get it done really quite quickly.

0:24:410:24:44

So we boiled it for a couple of hours and then let it cool down.

0:25:030:25:07

And now we're picking off all the meaty bits.

0:25:070:25:11

I'm an natural scavenger.

0:25:110:25:13

There's something brilliant

0:25:130:25:15

about finding something that others have overlooked.

0:25:150:25:18

And then we're going to pour in that leftover stock,

0:25:180:25:20

and then, as it cools, it will form a solid jelly.

0:25:200:25:23

-Then we'll be able to make it into slices.

-Yes.

0:25:230:25:26

Then eat it - with mustard, very important. Must be with mustard.

0:25:260:25:29

That's what Dorothy says.

0:25:290:25:31

So I'm pouring in the stock. How long do we have to leave it?

0:25:310:25:35

I'd want to leave it in a cool place overnight for it to set firmly,

0:25:350:25:38

and then it'll be something nice to have for lunch tomorrow.

0:25:380:25:41

-It has set into a proper glistening jelly, hasn't it?

-It has, yes.

0:25:450:25:49

For you...

0:25:490:25:51

Now, I'm really torn. I'm actually quite hungry. It smells nice.

0:25:510:25:56

Mmm... That's all good!

0:25:560:25:58

But what's flashing into my mind

0:25:580:26:00

-is cutting out the pig's eye with the knife.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:26:000:26:03

I think the best thing is to give it a try and see what it ends up like.

0:26:030:26:06

That's not bad. The mustard certainly helps.

0:26:080:26:11

Mmm, I quite like that.

0:26:160:26:18

-I've overdone the English mustard!

-THEY BOTH LAUGH

0:26:230:26:26

-You're wolfing it down here.

-It's quite nice. I'm quite enjoying it.

0:26:260:26:29

I'm sorry, I don't like it.

0:26:320:26:35

That's all right.

0:26:350:26:36

I'm sorry to say, I think it's really disgusting!

0:26:360:26:39

I've done my best to try and like it.

0:26:390:26:42

Why doesn't anybody eat brawn these days(?)

0:26:420:26:45

-There are reasons - it tastes awful.

-LUCY LAUGHS

0:26:450:26:47

Dorothy left the rectory in the early 1920s, and moved to London.

0:27:030:27:08

The capital gave her room to develop her talents as an artist and writer.

0:27:090:27:14

She gave art lessons at Regent Street Polytechnic,

0:27:140:27:19

but spent her spare time in the British Museum.

0:27:190:27:21

She was exploring the whole world of medieval England.

0:27:230:27:27

I've come to meet the food writer and journalist Adrian Bailey,

0:27:300:27:34

who met Dorothy in the late 1960s.

0:27:340:27:36

I'm hoping he can shed some light

0:27:360:27:39

on her fascination with medieval history.

0:27:390:27:42

Dorothy's father was a Chaucerian

0:27:420:27:45

and that was very likely where Dorothy's interest

0:27:450:27:49

in the medieval world and the 14th century came from.

0:27:490:27:53

What was she really like?

0:27:530:27:55

She was very hospitable, quite funny,

0:27:550:27:58

very elegant, in fact.

0:27:580:28:00

She used to write to me and she would sign it,

0:28:000:28:03

"Yours truly, D Hartley (Miss)"

0:28:030:28:07

Just to establish the fact

0:28:080:28:11

that here was a spinster you don't mess around with.

0:28:110:28:14

SHE LAUGHS

0:28:140:28:16

She was extraordinary.

0:28:160:28:18

But some of these papers ARE old love letters.

0:28:190:28:22

They contain clues about one quite serious relationship

0:28:220:28:25

with a man called Mickey.

0:28:250:28:27

He, though, was a heavy-drinking, elusive loner,

0:28:270:28:30

who worked as a ranger in Africa.

0:28:300:28:32

Marriage was never on the cards and he died young.

0:28:320:28:36

He says, "I will never settle now

0:28:360:28:39

"and the next time I go home back to England,

0:28:390:28:41

"I shall wander all over the British Isles with a toothbrush."

0:28:410:28:44

..which is what she would do.

0:28:440:28:46

Which is what she would do, so they're two of a type, really.

0:28:460:28:49

Absolutely, yes.

0:28:490:28:50

I think that, deep down in her heart,

0:28:500:28:53

she didn't really want to be married.

0:28:530:28:56

She didn't have time for a domestic life.

0:28:560:29:00

She fought off proposals.

0:29:000:29:02

There was one Mr Barham.

0:29:020:29:04

-He proposed to her by letter...

-Mm-hmm?

0:29:040:29:07

..and she replied with a long discourse on Viking burial customs

0:29:070:29:15

and said, "That'll see him off."

0:29:150:29:17

-She put him off with the Viking burial customs?

-Yes.

0:29:170:29:21

-That's one way of doing it.

-That was typical of her.

0:29:210:29:23

I rang her one day and she picked up the phone and,

0:29:230:29:27

without asking who it was, said,

0:29:270:29:29

"Can't talk to you now, I'm in the 14th century,"

0:29:290:29:31

and put the phone down. It could have been anybody.

0:29:310:29:35

But that was her, she was like that.

0:29:350:29:37

Somebody that had a great love for what she did

0:29:370:29:42

and she wanted to convey that to her readers

0:29:420:29:45

and greatly succeeded, because here we have Food In England.

0:29:450:29:50

What's your opinion of the importance of this book?

0:29:500:29:53

It is the product of a lifetime's experience.

0:29:530:29:58

It is a history book. It isn't a cookery book.

0:29:580:30:01

And she goes back in history to the Victorian period

0:30:010:30:05

and then back through to the...

0:30:050:30:07

ending up in the Tudor world, which she loved.

0:30:070:30:11

Dorothy's engagement with history bore fruit in 1925,

0:30:160:30:20

when she published her first book -

0:30:200:30:22

Life And Work Of The Peoples Of England.

0:30:220:30:25

While researching it, she came across a writer

0:30:340:30:37

who was to have a profound influence on her life...

0:30:370:30:39

..a Tudor farmer and poet called Thomas Tusser.

0:30:400:30:44

Thomas Tusser keeps cropping up in Food In England.

0:30:570:31:01

Dorothy was clearly very interested in him.

0:31:010:31:04

He spent his life in 16th-century Suffolk

0:31:040:31:06

and she tracked him down there.

0:31:060:31:08

This photo shows her standing up to her ankles in a bog

0:31:090:31:13

and it says on the back,

0:31:130:31:15

"Me on Tusser's marsh."

0:31:150:31:18

Well, I think I need to visit Tusser's marsh

0:31:180:31:20

and Tusser's landscape

0:31:200:31:22

to see what they might tell us about Dorothy herself.

0:31:220:31:25

This is the spot, in what's known today as Constable Country,

0:31:380:31:42

where Thomas Tusser's house once stood.

0:31:420:31:44

He was born in Rivenhall in Essex in about 1524.

0:31:440:31:49

A Hundred Good Points Of Husbandry

0:31:510:31:53

is his rhyming book about agriculture.

0:31:530:31:56

HE GEES THE HORSES

0:32:290:32:31

Good lads. Right...

0:32:310:32:33

'Tusser was one of the first writers

0:32:330:32:35

'to record the experience of ordinary tenant farmers.'

0:32:350:32:39

Are you going to go each side of the sticks?

0:32:390:32:41

Yeah, those should straddle. Get up!

0:32:410:32:43

'Suffolk farmer Roger Clark works land very near to Tusser's farm

0:32:430:32:47

'and does it in a way that Tusser would have recognised

0:32:470:32:50

'five centuries ago.'

0:32:500:32:52

Tell me a bit about Suffolk Punches, then,

0:32:520:32:55

these enormous horses. Are they especially for ploughing?

0:32:550:32:58

Yeah, because if you look at the legs

0:32:580:33:01

and you compare them with the Shire Horse,

0:33:010:33:03

which has a mass of feather, you'll see how clean they've kept

0:33:030:33:06

and that's why we call them clean-legged.

0:33:060:33:08

So the Shires get all muddy when they go up and down,

0:33:080:33:10

and that's no good?

0:33:100:33:12

The Suffolk Horse was bred as the...

0:33:120:33:15

Well, the perfect agricultural horse.

0:33:150:33:18

-He is a human tractor.

-Yeah.

0:33:180:33:19

Not a human tractor, an EQUINE tractor.

0:33:190:33:22

Absolutely, yeah.

0:33:220:33:23

I have the oldest recorded pedigree, bar the thoroughbred.

0:33:230:33:28

-Going back to...

-1750.

-Wow!

0:33:280:33:31

I've always tried to keep Suffolk Horses,

0:33:310:33:33

because they are an endangered species.

0:33:330:33:36

In fact, there's more giant pandas about than there are Suffolk Horses.

0:33:360:33:39

-No, really?

-Yeah.

0:33:390:33:40

But not only, I think,

0:33:400:33:42

it's important to maintain the horse as a breed,

0:33:420:33:45

but to maintain the skills that went with it.

0:33:450:33:47

I can see that this is an art.

0:33:470:33:49

Yes, yes, and it would be tragic if all these things -

0:33:490:33:52

like ploughing, like harness making and all things like that -

0:33:520:33:55

were finished.

0:33:550:33:57

Thomas Tusser was ploughing with oxen.

0:33:570:34:00

How do you think that would have worked?

0:34:000:34:02

Well, you'd...

0:34:020:34:04

As I can see it, you had the oxen,

0:34:040:34:06

but you also had a boy with a sharp stick to poke them along.

0:34:060:34:09

To poke them along?

0:34:090:34:11

With these, you don't need that.

0:34:110:34:13

THEY LAUGH

0:34:130:34:14

Tusser tells us, "Look well to thy horses in the stable, thou must.

0:34:160:34:19

"Let not your hay be foisty or your chaff full of dust,

0:34:190:34:24

"nor stone in their provender or feathers or clots,

0:34:240:34:29

"nor feed with green peason for the breeding of bots."

0:34:290:34:33

So, don't let the hay be foisty...

0:34:330:34:35

..which was mouldy.

0:34:350:34:36

-He doesn't eat foisty hay.

-No, he certainly doesn't.

0:34:360:34:39

-No stones in the food.

-No. No dust in the...

-No dust.

0:34:390:34:43

-What are bots?

-Bots is the larvae of a gadfly...

-Ah!

0:34:430:34:46

..and they attach themselves to the stomach

0:34:460:34:49

and then they come out through the skin.

0:34:490:34:51

I mean, today, we worm horses in November,

0:34:510:34:53

because that gets rid of the bot larvae.

0:34:530:34:55

-Now, I'm worried about Jester getting cold.

-That's it.

0:34:550:34:59

-Do we need to warm up, do a bit more?

-Yeah, well done.

-Right, OK.

0:34:590:35:02

HE GEES THE HORSES

0:35:020:35:05

Having visited Thomas Tusser's home and learnt a bit more about him,

0:35:230:35:26

I can see why Dorothy was so attracted to him.

0:35:260:35:29

He was like the Tudor version of her.

0:35:290:35:31

In 1931, Dorothy published her edition of Thomas Tusser's poem,

0:35:310:35:37

it's called Thomas Tusser And His Farming In East Anglia.

0:35:370:35:41

Both of them were interested in crops and the land

0:35:410:35:44

and seasons and how things were done

0:35:440:35:46

and both of them had the ability to express it

0:35:460:35:48

in really simple language.

0:35:480:35:51

Dorothy clearly shared Tusser's interest in everyday things,

0:35:540:35:59

and she did probe really deeply into his life and work.

0:35:590:36:03

I'm beginning to realise her research into Tusser's world

0:36:050:36:09

shows that despite my earlier misgivings,

0:36:090:36:11

she really was becoming a serious historian.

0:36:110:36:14

In the 1930s, she travelled the country,

0:36:190:36:22

documenting and illustrating rural ways of life

0:36:220:36:25

in three books and a regular column for the Daily Sketch newspaper.

0:36:250:36:30

I've come to visit someone who's spent many years

0:36:330:36:36

researching this period of Dorothy's life -

0:36:360:36:39

the potter and artist Mary Wondrausch.

0:36:390:36:42

And she's making me lunch.

0:36:440:36:46

We're not cooking it, because it's already been smoked,

0:36:460:36:52

and that is in a sense cooking it.

0:36:520:36:56

-How do I get it out, like this?

-No, you don't.

0:36:560:37:00

No, there's a trick.

0:37:000:37:02

The trick is this.

0:37:020:37:05

Oh, look at that! It lifts up.

0:37:050:37:08

'Mary's warmed up some Arbroath smokies,

0:37:080:37:11

'smoked haddock from northeast Scotland,

0:37:110:37:13

'which Dorothy describes in one of her Daily Sketch articles.'

0:37:130:37:17

So there's our lovely smokie,

0:37:170:37:19

and I'll tell you what it's supposed to be like.

0:37:190:37:22

It's supposed to be "a gold bronzed fish,

0:37:220:37:25

"smoke-dried, redolent with the savour of the peat."

0:37:250:37:29

-And mind the bones.

-Mind the bones.

0:37:290:37:32

Mmm. That's very good.

0:37:320:37:34

-You certainly need the butter with it.

-Mmm.

0:37:350:37:39

-It's delicious.

-What do you think?

0:37:390:37:40

Mmm, very nice. It's delicious, but I don't think

0:37:400:37:43

we should be eating it in your lovely, warm kitchen.

0:37:430:37:46

We should be in a smoke-filled cottage in the middle

0:37:460:37:48

of a peat bog in Scotland.

0:37:480:37:49

I can see you're a romantic, Lucy! Yes.

0:37:490:37:54

Because you're an artist, what do you see in her as a fellow artist?

0:37:550:37:59

Well, really, I see her

0:37:590:38:01

more as an illustrator than as an artist,

0:38:010:38:06

and her drawings are so wonderfully accurate,

0:38:060:38:12

so what really fascinates me

0:38:120:38:15

is the way she makes it absolutely clear

0:38:150:38:19

what everyone or everything is doing,

0:38:190:38:25

how it's made, the detail.

0:38:250:38:27

And despite from being so accurate,

0:38:270:38:31

they're not boring at all.

0:38:310:38:33

They're all lively,

0:38:330:38:35

and her observation is acute.

0:38:350:38:39

Look at all the detail,

0:38:390:38:42

the tool you're using, and the plaiting, and...

0:38:420:38:46

It's just so remarkable.

0:38:460:38:49

What do you think is the most important

0:38:490:38:52

thing of all about Dorothy Hartley?

0:38:520:38:55

Well, it's the breadth of her interests.

0:38:550:38:59

She was really a very adventurous woman,

0:38:590:39:02

and very hard-working,

0:39:020:39:05

and one of my theories is

0:39:050:39:08

this was because she wasn't married,

0:39:080:39:11

didn't have children, or some fractious husband,

0:39:110:39:16

and that whole focus went on

0:39:160:39:19

whatever she was researching at the time.

0:39:190:39:24

"By the time coal cooking came into fairly general usage,

0:39:300:39:33

"the fireplace had moved

0:39:330:39:35

"from the middle of the room to the side wall.

0:39:350:39:37

"Chimneys had been built climbing up the older houses

0:39:390:39:42

"like hollow caterpillars clinging to a leaf."

0:39:420:39:45

Tell me a bit about your amazing cottage.

0:39:490:39:51

How long have you been living here?

0:39:510:39:53

Well, I bought the house in 1955.

0:39:530:39:57

My husband...I was going to say "buggered off",

0:39:580:40:02

-but you can't say "bugger", I believe.

-I think you can!

0:40:020:40:06

-He went off.

-I think if you want to.

-Yes.

0:40:060:40:09

And so I was left with two children,

0:40:090:40:13

and my third child was born here,

0:40:130:40:16

but I'd never lived in the country

0:40:160:40:18

so I had to learn about how to do it,

0:40:180:40:22

and it was reading Hartley

0:40:220:40:26

that I began to get some idea about cooking on the fire and so on.

0:40:260:40:31

So the chapter in here about fuels and fireplaces,

0:40:310:40:34

for you that was like an instruction manual to your cottage?

0:40:340:40:37

Absolutely. It really was, yes.

0:40:370:40:41

I was fascinated to see all her wonderful illustrations

0:40:410:40:45

of the different ways of cooking on the fire.

0:40:450:40:50

Dorothy devoted no less than 30 pages

0:41:030:41:06

to fuels and fireplaces in Food In England.

0:41:060:41:09

She researched the book as she roamed the countryside,

0:41:090:41:13

sometimes by car, sometimes by bike.

0:41:130:41:15

Sleeping rough under the stars, she relished the hardships.

0:41:170:41:21

"I was freezing on the Pilgrim's Way.

0:41:230:41:25

"My fingers were claw-curled with cold inside my gauntlets.

0:41:250:41:29

"Almost, I could hear the ghosts of Chaucer's riders,

0:41:320:41:35

"their horse bells tinkling down the path like melting ice."

0:41:350:41:39

Throughout her travels, Dorothy made connections

0:41:510:41:54

between the past and the present.

0:41:540:41:56

When she saw canal workers, or bargees,

0:41:570:42:00

cooking a one-pot meal on their barges,

0:42:000:42:02

she recognised how closely it was related to the medieval cauldron,

0:42:020:42:06

and sure enough, there it is,

0:42:060:42:08

in the chapter on fuels and fireplaces.

0:42:080:42:11

The food writer Rose Prince is going to cook the bargemen's dinner,

0:42:130:42:17

just as Dorothy described.

0:42:170:42:19

It's ancient, this dish is.

0:42:200:42:21

I love the cross-section in her drawing

0:42:210:42:23

where you see all of the vegetables with the meat on top

0:42:230:42:27

all layered up, and look above and you see the cauldron

0:42:270:42:30

and there are pieces of meat and fat wrapped in cloth.

0:42:300:42:33

So much of what she saw had to be taken from history books.

0:42:330:42:36

This was the real thing.

0:42:360:42:37

Right, turnips first?

0:42:370:42:39

Turnips at the base for sweetness.

0:42:390:42:42

Fresh belly of pork.

0:42:420:42:44

A little bit of smoked salt pork to add flavour.

0:42:440:42:49

On top of that, carrots and parsnips. Now, she says water.

0:42:490:42:52

Just gain a little bit of extra flavour

0:42:520:42:54

if you have some nice gelatinous broth like this.

0:42:540:42:58

On top of that, a huff paste, which was a suet crust, essentially,

0:42:580:43:02

acting as an insulating layer.

0:43:020:43:04

-On top of that, some sliced potatoes. More huff paste.

-OK.

0:43:040:43:08

-On top of that, some apples.

-Apples!

-If you're going to have a pudding.

0:43:080:43:11

-Yeah.

-That will fuel the bargee.

0:43:110:43:13

It's such a simple but powerful idea, isn't it?

0:43:150:43:18

Once you've made that preparation, it cooks itself.

0:43:180:43:22

Great!

0:43:230:43:24

-Into the water, do you think?

-There we go.

0:43:240:43:27

The brilliant idea here is that the one pot

0:43:340:43:37

will cook the main meal and the pudding

0:43:370:43:39

and anything else you want slowly in the boiling water.

0:43:390:43:42

It'll be ready to eat after about two hours,

0:43:420:43:46

or you can just leave it to bubble away all day

0:43:460:43:48

until the boatman, Tim here, gets hungry.

0:43:480:43:51

-Oh, they're cooked! It's worked!

-They have cooked.

0:43:550:43:58

-That is true cooked food.

-And look, the pastry's cooked.

0:43:580:44:01

-Oh, it looks cooked. It looks like a suet pudding.

-Yeah.

0:44:010:44:04

The apples have kept their shape nicely, haven't they?

0:44:040:44:07

Needs a bit of custard on there, I think.

0:44:070:44:11

There it is. Bit of turnip.

0:44:110:44:12

-Now then.

-Great!

0:44:140:44:16

Thank you very much. Smashing.

0:44:160:44:18

You got a fork there?

0:44:180:44:20

That warms the cockles of the heart, doesn't it?

0:44:230:44:26

Well, I think it's great.

0:44:260:44:27

Just the sort of thing you need at the end of a day.

0:44:270:44:29

What are your final thoughts, then, on Dorothy, Rose?

0:44:290:44:33

What does she mean to you?

0:44:330:44:34

I think she's the most interesting writer

0:44:340:44:38

to have covered British food

0:44:380:44:40

for a simple point that she is the person

0:44:400:44:42

who found out what everyone is eating.

0:44:420:44:45

-So often we know what kings ate.

-Yeah.

0:44:450:44:47

And we know what ladies in Tudor households

0:44:470:44:50

prepared for their big kitchens, but we don't know what people ate,

0:44:500:44:53

and through her very forensic investigation

0:44:530:44:56

into all the equipment and the animal breeds and the landscape,

0:44:560:45:01

she found out, and that marks her out above everyone else.

0:45:010:45:05

I agree with Rose.

0:45:100:45:11

It's Dorothy's interest in ordinary people that's really extraordinary.

0:45:110:45:16

And I'm beginning to appreciate

0:45:190:45:21

that she was a chronicler of her own times.

0:45:210:45:23

Food In England isn't just a history book.

0:45:230:45:26

It also paints a picture of the England

0:45:260:45:28

she criss-crossed between the wars.

0:45:280:45:30

In her newspaper articles and photographs, her fascination

0:45:330:45:37

with the way people lived and worked on the land is plain to see.

0:45:370:45:42

She devotes no less than 29 pages of Food In England

0:45:420:45:45

to the very mundane subject of sheep.

0:45:450:45:48

"An old shepherd and myself spent one summer mapping the moorland.

0:45:510:45:55

"It was a curious piece of work,

0:45:550:45:58

"and very enlightening as to the mentality of mutton."

0:45:580:46:01

Dorothy writes really romantically and evocatively about farming life,

0:46:040:46:09

but she also includes lots of utilitarian information too,

0:46:090:46:13

like absolutely everything you can do

0:46:130:46:15

with absolutely every single part of a cow or a sheep.

0:46:150:46:20

She brings to life the annual spectacle of the sheep-shearing.

0:46:200:46:24

This is Manor Farm, a hill farm right up above Wharfedale,

0:46:240:46:27

and it's a good day to be here, cos it's shearing day.

0:46:270:46:32

Chris Akrigg's family came here as tenant farmers

0:46:410:46:44

in the Yorkshire Dales just after the Second World War.

0:46:440:46:47

These days, Chris runs the business with his three sons.

0:46:480:46:51

'My turn now.'

0:47:030:47:05

First we're just going to practise cuddling a sheep...

0:47:060:47:10

Just grip it well. That's it.

0:47:110:47:13

-I've got him. Got him.

-Excellent.

0:47:130:47:14

I love sheep. I love you!

0:47:140:47:17

No, don't pull the wool. Always pull the thing back, that's right.

0:47:180:47:23

-I'm so worried about hurting him.

-No, you're not hurting.

0:47:240:47:27

That's it...

0:47:330:47:35

There you go, you're done!

0:47:350:47:38

Ooh, dear. That's not brilliant, is it?

0:47:380:47:41

-It's not too bad, actually...

-I haven't finished! Come back.

0:47:410:47:44

We don't need a dog when we have Lucy.

0:47:470:47:50

-It's pretty good.

-No, it's dreadful compared with the others!

0:47:500:47:55

-Distinctive anyway, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:47:550:47:58

So what was it like in Dorothy Hartley's childhood, then,

0:47:580:48:01

in the late Victorian times? What was the sheep shearing like?

0:48:010:48:05

Traditionally, people would help each other do it.

0:48:050:48:08

And, of course, it was much quieter.

0:48:080:48:10

I remember an old chap telling me once that he was the very first one

0:48:100:48:13

to take a machine round to one of these parties.

0:48:130:48:17

You'd do it with your neighbours

0:48:170:48:18

and perhaps invite some other people to come,

0:48:180:48:21

and they'd have a clipping session. He went with his machine.

0:48:210:48:23

The others couldn't hear each other talking,

0:48:230:48:25

so they never asked him again.

0:48:250:48:27

-That's modernity for you!

-Exactly.

0:48:270:48:29

Farming in the Dales has changed beyond all recognition

0:48:320:48:35

since Dorothy Hartley's day.

0:48:350:48:38

Over the years, Chris has had to take on more and more land

0:48:380:48:41

to make a decent living.

0:48:410:48:43

He now farms around 2,000 acres.

0:48:430:48:46

It's not just us that's done this,

0:48:480:48:50

lots of farms in the Dale have all expanded

0:48:500:48:53

and taken over another farm, and it's a shame,

0:48:530:48:56

because it's depopulated the Dale.

0:48:560:48:58

On the social side especially.

0:48:580:48:59

There aren't as many jobs, though, for human beings.

0:48:590:49:02

No. My grandfather milked ten cows, kept poultry,

0:49:020:49:05

a few turkeys at Christmas, 20 pigs and a few sheep.

0:49:050:49:08

And employed a man and a boy. And made a good living.

0:49:080:49:11

But that would be a sort of part-time job today.

0:49:110:49:14

That's the difference, you just need so much to make a living nowadays.

0:49:140:49:18

"At sheep shearings, baskets of beef sandwiches were carried around.

0:49:210:49:25

"Each with a mustard pot tied to the handle.

0:49:250:49:29

"No-one eats mutton at a sheep shearing."

0:49:290:49:32

-Right, I'm having mustard.

-I'm going to have onions, I think.

0:49:340:49:39

Go on, then.

0:49:390:49:40

Any excuse to eat beef!

0:49:400:49:41

'Dorothy's writing is so compelling -

0:49:410:49:44

'partly because she's capturing a world

0:49:440:49:46

'just on the cusp of destruction.

0:49:460:49:48

'She described the lifestyle of Chris Akrigg's grandfather

0:49:490:49:52

'and others like him even as it began to fall apart,

0:49:520:49:56

'with mass production and mechanisation.

0:49:560:49:58

'Two generations and a World War later,

0:50:010:50:04

'it was a way of life that would be lost for ever.'

0:50:040:50:07

"Bracken used to be cut for bedding for farm animals,

0:50:120:50:16

"for covering in root crops, and for weaving into shelters and hurdles.

0:50:160:50:20

"Quantities were used by the slate and heavy earthenware industries

0:50:200:50:24

"to pack their ware for road transport.

0:50:240:50:27

"Now, it is not cut,

0:50:270:50:29

"and has become a desperate weed instead of a useful growth."

0:50:290:50:32

Most of the research for Food In England

0:50:390:50:41

was done during her wandering years.

0:50:410:50:44

But after 1945, Dorothy settled down here in North Wales

0:50:440:50:48

and this is where my journey ends.

0:50:480:50:50

She lived in the village of Fron

0:50:540:50:56

in a house she'd inherited from her mother

0:50:560:50:58

overlooking the Llangollen Canal.

0:50:580:51:00

'It was here that 30 years of painstaking observation

0:51:040:51:08

'came together in her magnum opus,

0:51:080:51:11

'the book that's her greatest achievement.'

0:51:110:51:14

'Food In England was published in 1954. Reviewers loved it.

0:51:170:51:23

'Harold Nicolson, writing in The Times, said,

0:51:230:51:25

'"Miss Dorothy Hartley's Food In England will become a classic".

0:51:250:51:31

'He was right. Food In England has never been out of print.'

0:51:310:51:35

'By the time it was published, she was well into her 60s.'

0:51:440:51:47

'I've come to her house to meet four people who remember Dorothy

0:51:490:51:53

'from these last years of her life, including Malcolm Wiles,

0:51:530:51:57

'whose father, Teddy, helped her to move in.'

0:51:570:52:00

"Wiles, Wiles, Wiles," she used to call my dad, didn't she?

0:52:000:52:04

"I want you to go to so-and-so." Not "can you", "I want you to go."

0:52:040:52:09

'Malcolm's wife, Rosemary, still has the letter that Dorothy sent

0:52:100:52:14

'with instructions about moving.'

0:52:140:52:16

'This was just like Dorothy.

0:52:170:52:19

'Instead of listing her furniture, she draws it.'

0:52:190:52:22

First of all in her mind was her work desk.

0:52:240:52:28

This was where her writing was done and she had put that first.

0:52:280:52:31

-This is the most important item of all.

-That's what I thought, yes.

0:52:310:52:34

The desk where she does the writing?

0:52:340:52:36

-Yes, that's right. And herself last.

-Yep.

-With the cat.

0:52:360:52:39

The sewing machine, cycle, cat - there he is.

0:52:390:52:42

-Yes, Mark.

-Mark the cat.

0:52:420:52:45

And here's Dorothy herself.

0:52:450:52:46

She's carrying a packet of sandwiches,

0:52:460:52:50

a trifle cutter.

0:52:500:52:51

-And it also says she's carrying a small garden spade.

-Yes.

0:52:510:52:55

Would you describe her as easy to get to know?

0:52:550:52:58

-Well,

-I

-found her easy to get to know.

0:52:580:53:00

She didn't phone, she arrived by the door, didn't she?

0:53:000:53:03

The Welsh are...

0:53:030:53:05

Well, "Come day, go day."

0:53:050:53:07

That's the slang word, isn't it?

0:53:070:53:09

Anything will do, tomorrow will do, there's no rush,

0:53:090:53:12

but that wasn't Miss Hartley. It's now, isn't it?

0:53:120:53:14

-That was Miss Hartley. Now.

-Was she generous?

0:53:140:53:18

Money-wise, no, because she hadn't got any.

0:53:180:53:21

-But as I say, she'd do anything for you.

-Yeah.

0:53:210:53:24

-She'd never see anybody in trouble, would she, now?

-No.

-No.

0:53:240:53:27

Never see anybody in trouble.

0:53:270:53:29

And she didn't want the world to know

0:53:290:53:31

that she'd done this, that or the other for them.

0:53:310:53:34

-She asked me to type a letter for her.

-Yes.

0:53:340:53:38

Rickety old machine and she dictated it to me, you see.

0:53:380:53:43

She kept changing her mind. "No, no, no, cross that out."

0:53:430:53:46

So I'd cross it out. X it out, no Tipp-Ex in those days.

0:53:460:53:50

And ended up with a whole paragraph X-ed out.

0:53:500:53:54

I said, "I'll type it nicely for you." "No, no, no."

0:53:540:53:58

She signed it, "Just post it on your way home." So I thought...

0:53:580:54:03

So I'm afraid I stole a piece of paper from her study

0:54:030:54:06

on the way home and I typed it on my machine.

0:54:060:54:10

-Oh, you typed it properly?

-LUCY LAUGHS

0:54:100:54:12

And... Don't tell anybody this, will you?

0:54:120:54:15

I forged her signature and posted it off!

0:54:150:54:18

THEY LAUGH

0:54:180:54:21

What's the most personal item of Dorothy's that you own?

0:54:210:54:24

I think probably the most interesting one that came out

0:54:240:54:27

of all the boxes and files and papers

0:54:270:54:29

was her handbag, which I have.

0:54:290:54:31

Her handbag, look at this! The handbag of Dorothy Hartley.

0:54:310:54:35

It's more or less just as the contents were in there.

0:54:350:54:38

That seems to me exactly the sort of thing I would imagine her carrying -

0:54:380:54:41

something big that you could knock people on the head with

0:54:410:54:43

if you wanted to.

0:54:430:54:44

-Can I open it?

-Please do, yes.

0:54:440:54:46

-That such an intimate thing to do, to look into a lady's handbag.

-Yeah.

0:54:460:54:50

It feels wrong to look into somebody's handbag.

0:54:500:54:53

Oh, she wouldn't mind.

0:54:530:54:55

I guess she'd have done the same thing, wouldn't she?

0:54:550:54:57

If she found our handbags lying around, she'd be right in there.

0:54:570:55:00

If there was something hand-crafted in there, she would.

0:55:000:55:03

Now, here we've got a little knife.

0:55:030:55:06

Little horn penknife.

0:55:080:55:09

Oh, look, this is so characteristic.

0:55:130:55:15

It's her ticket to the reading room of the British Museum.

0:55:150:55:18

"Miss D Hartley, not transferable."

0:55:180:55:21

That's just the sort of thing I would have hoped to find.

0:55:210:55:24

Oh, and we've got another one.

0:55:240:55:26

The Departments Of Manuscripts at the British Library.

0:55:260:55:29

Here's something else incredibly characteristic.

0:55:290:55:32

She's carrying around an atlas.

0:55:320:55:34

It's an atlas of the British Isles,

0:55:340:55:36

-so she always knows where she is and where she's going next.

-Yes.

0:55:360:55:40

That really is the woman in a bag, isn't it?

0:55:400:55:43

-All those things together there.

-Yes.

0:55:430:55:45

I'll tell you now, Lucy, I walked in here today and it affected me.

0:55:450:55:52

I've not been in here since the day of the funeral

0:55:520:55:54

-and when I come through that door...

-And she's not here...

0:55:540:55:58

-..there was a lump in my throat.

-Mm.

0:55:580:56:01

We weren't close, not anything like that,

0:56:010:56:03

no more than doing things for her. But I still... But I still felt...

0:56:030:56:10

You know, as I say, there was a lump in my throat.

0:56:100:56:12

Having followed Dorothy's journey to its very end,

0:56:170:56:21

I'm surprised and impressed

0:56:210:56:23

to find a respectable schoolmaster's daughter

0:56:230:56:26

following such an unconventional course through life.

0:56:260:56:29

I've come to realise she's more than a great writer.

0:56:290:56:33

I think she's an admirable human being.

0:56:330:56:36

Dorothy died in 1985 and it was Malcolm

0:56:400:56:42

who brought her body up from the house here to the churchyard.

0:56:420:56:48

I was really moved by how much Malcolm

0:56:480:56:50

and her other friends still seem to miss Dorothy.

0:56:500:56:53

They regret the fact that she didn't leave any children

0:56:530:56:56

but, instead, she did leave us this amazing book.

0:56:560:57:00

And as I followed her up and down the country -

0:57:000:57:03

from Yorkshire to Leicestershire, to Suffolk, to Wales -

0:57:030:57:07

I've really come to appreciate

0:57:070:57:09

just how magnificently eccentric she really was.

0:57:090:57:13

She devoted her whole life to this mad quest, to capture a lost world.

0:57:130:57:19

And thank goodness she did.

0:57:190:57:21

The world needs these crazy, passionate people like Dorothy.

0:57:210:57:25

There's just one more piece to put into the picture -

0:57:320:57:35

a home movie showing Dorothy doing what she loved to do,

0:57:350:57:40

working in the garden and digging up potatoes for dinner.

0:57:400:57:44

"If everything I possess vanished suddenly, I'd be sorry,

0:57:590:58:03

"but I value things unpossessed -

0:58:030:58:08

"the wind, and trees and sky and kind thoughts - much more.

0:58:080:58:13

"What a poetic old party, eh?"

0:58:220:58:24

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