Nigel Slater's Great British Biscuit


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There aren't many opportunities in life when you can truly take a break

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but when those moments do crop up, whether you're alone or with others,

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there's one culinary companion that usually puts in an appearance.

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The biscuit.

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Simple, small and incredibly morish,

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there's something reliable about a biscuit.

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You see, they're always there.

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Unless, of course, you eat the entire packet.

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This is my story of the British biscuit.

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I'll be exploring its earliest origins.

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This is the Victory.

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Meeting biscuit aficionados.

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So this is the bit when I start to look a bit like a crazy biscuit guy.

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And putting biscuits under considerable scientific pressure.

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That is a dunking disaster.

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This is a journey charting the origins

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of a long and faded trail of biscuit crumbs.

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After all, I'm not alone in my passion for this simple baked item.

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There are 71 million packets of digestive biscuits sold every year.

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That's 52 biscuits eaten every second.

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That means 184,000 digestive biscuits will be eaten

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by the end of this programme.

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Biscuits pop up everywhere in our day to day lives.

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They're not as brash or as demanding as sweets.

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Instead, they work their magic by stealth.

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-Please tell me you've got some biscuits.

-Yep.

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They sidle up alongside you when you least expect it.

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-One of those. There you are, sir.

-Thank you very much.

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-Thank you.

-Have a good day.

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I love a biscuit. I can't imagine life without them.

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They're a treat, they're a little bit of sustenance,

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but more than that they signify a break in my day.

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It might be a working day, I might be doing something in the garden,

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I might be at my desk or I might be on a train going somewhere.

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It's just a moment to stop and take stock.

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I have my favourites - always have done ever since I was a kid.

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Sometimes they're for sharing

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and other times they're all just for yourself.

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I love the way they break and they crumble

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and the crumbs stick to your fingers.

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But I've often wondered who decided

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that this would be the perfect stop in the day?

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The first trail of broken biscuits are taking me out to sea

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or rather to the dry docks of Portsmouth.

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A major part of the modern biscuit's genetic past

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has a distinctly nautical flavour.

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I've got the Marine Dictionary here and I've found biscuit.

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"A sea biscuit is a sort of bread much dried to make it keep

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"for the use of the navy and is good for a whole year."

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And a biscuit to me is about fun, it's a joy to eat,

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but here it's had a much more significant role -

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it was absolutely crucial to the crew's life.

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In the late 18th century Admiral Nelson was just one

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of the many naval officers for whom the biscuit was a secret weapon

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in his control of the high seas.

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Nigel, good to meet you. Welcome to Victory.

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It's an awesome, awesome place to be.

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This is where Nelson commanded Victory and the fleet from at the Battle of Trafalgar.

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That is his little plaque, isn't it?

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And that is the spot where Nelson fell, yes.

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I know a little bit of the story and quite a bit of the history of it

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but I'm here for something that might seem insignificant,

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but it's not to me.

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-You've got biscuits on board, haven't you?

-We've got lots of biscuits on board, yes.

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As far back as Ancient Egypt,

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sailors have survived on very basic, hard-baked items.

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The word biscuit derives from two Latin words

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bis, meaning twice and coquere, which means to cook.

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Over the years the word has evolved from bisquite through to biscuit,

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in other words, meaning twice baked.

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The smell of this place is extraordinary.

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How many people would be down here?

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In terms of meal times, you'd be over 600 people,

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so it's very, very cramped.

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Life is hard at the time,

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so for the men on board, you have a roof over your head,

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you've got a very good diet by the standards of the day

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and it's not all rum, sodomy and the lash.

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Well, I'm happy to hear that.

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And these are our ship's biscuits.

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We carry about 700,000 when we first put to sea.

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18-21 men would each be getting a pound,

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so about five of those a day every day.

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35,000 calories a week these chaps get.

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About 14,000 of those calories come from those biscuits.

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So isn't it also referred to as hard tack?

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Absolutely. Hard tack is ship's biscuits.

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-They are hard.

-They are hard. HAMMERING

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-So you have a couple of options for eating something like this.

-Yeah.

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First thing you can do - it's the original dunker.

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You can dunk it in your drink, you can dunk it in the stew you have.

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Or you can wrap it in a piece of cloth

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and basically bash it with something heavy, probably a cannonball,

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and the bit that will be eaten last is the stamped area,

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because that's the most compressed, that's the hardest.

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-What's that about?

-It's the crow's foot or the broad arrow

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and it basically denotes that it's government property.

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That mark of sort of ownership and authenticity, I suppose,

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I mean, to this day that appears on almost every biscuit we know,

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so really this mark is actually, I suppose, the very beginning of a trademark.

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This really is the first example of mass-produced biscuits, isn't it?

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Absolutely.

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Is it really an urban myth that dunking started

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in order to get rid of the weevils in your biscuit?

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-Weevils are very, very small. You'd never see them.

-They're tiny.

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What they're seeing is something the seamen would call bargemen,

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because this is a bread barge in which the biscuits are kept

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and it's the larva of probably the cadelle beetle,

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-something which is three quarters of an inch long...

-Ugh!

-..a nice, big, black head.

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-So they flick those off and pull those out?

-Well, it depends how squeamish you are.

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You pull them out, you flick them off, you bang the biscuit on the table.

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We could be here all day. it's just not going to happen is it?

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Let's see if this works.

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-Mind the table.

-So we've got a 32-pound cannonball.

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This is the Victory!

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Oh, heavens! You haven't even made a dent in it.

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ANDREW LAUGHS

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Well, let's see if this works.

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I think we might be able to break that.

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Ah! You know, this is a bit like the first scone I ever baked.

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My dad threw it out on the lawn for the birds

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and it was there six months later.

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Yes, we're in.

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Mm, you would be seriously full after one of these.

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I think it's going to sit on the stomach like a cannonball.

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With the birth of the ship's biscuit fresh in my mind,

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I'm left wondering about the first biscuit I ever tasted.

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I think that my first biscuit wasn't far away

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from the first biscuit of all, the rusk.

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And you're supposed to dip them into milk,

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just like the ship's biscuit - it's exactly the same thing - but...

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being a little contrary from an early age, I ate my rusks dry.

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I'd break them up. I'd always...

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Oh! Always sniff them.

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There's a milkiness there, a little sweetness.

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It's sort of like breast milk in biscuit form.

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My most abiding memories of biscuits are also tied up with travel.

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OK, perhaps not as long distance as Nelson

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but certainly long distance enough

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for a very hungry schoolboy boarding the school bus.

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All the noisy boys sat at the back, because we had transistor radios.

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I used to get really cross if someone got there before me.

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But I was always the first to get on at school,

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because I lived farthest away, so I always got the corner seat.

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There wasn't much shouting, there wasn't much playing around

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but there was lots of rustling, lots of wrappers being opened,

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lots of little tuck boxes with the lids coming of.

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And when we got off the school bus, we'd be covered in crumbs,

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mostly mine.

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I'm picking up a chap who is a self-confessed biscuit expert.

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Stuart Payne, also known as Nicey, has written the only user's guide to the modern biscuit.

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-Hello.

-Hello, Nigel. How are you?

-Come and sit down.

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There's quite possibly nothing that this man doesn't know about biccies.

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-You're my biscuit anorak, aren't you?

-I am that man.

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-I guess I do like them a lot.

-It's this curious thing

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that people measure their lives in different ways.

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I mean, for some people it's the music they were listening to

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but sometimes it's what you ate.

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I can remember, for instance, vividly where I was standing

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and who I was with when I learnt of the existence of the chocolate HobNob.

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I can... I'm with you.

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I mean, my life is a trail of crumbs.

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I can measure my life by what I was eating

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and very often it's a biscuit.

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We have a connection with these things, little baked items.

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It's always, "Oh, yeah, these used to be in our picnic basket whenever we went off for a picnic,"

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and it's all those associations

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and probably more with biccies than anything else.

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As we head down memory lane,

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our first nostalgic stop is once again with what I call

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the biscuits of sustenance,

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the rather harsh, bland biscuits of the adult world.

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-Ah-ha!

-Ah!

-Ah!

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Well, what we've got here is all the kind of plain, archetypal biscuits.

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In fact, these were the sort of biscuits

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-that actually my mum would have loved.

-Yeah.

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You know when your mum said, "Do you want a biscuit?"

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and you got terribly excited and you ended up with a Rich Tea?

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Exactly. Look at that - thin arrowroot.

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-Oh! I haven't seen a thin arrowroot for years!

-Look at the writing.

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The exciting thing about a thin arrowroot is...

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-It's this font.

-It's almost like it's been laser etched on.

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Like you say, Nigel, all these biscuits, they're plain, round dunkers.

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As I kid, I... There we go.

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I have not seen one of those for years - a Rich Tea finger.

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I didn't even know they made them.

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Morning Coffee.

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This is the village hall biscuit.

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This is the biscuit that when we go to a jumble or something like that

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and they bring out a plate of biscuits,

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it would be the Morning Coffee.

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It does look boring but I love what's going on

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-with all the detail and the coffee pot.

-And the coffee pot.

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-Now, you see, that...

-Ah! There we go.

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-What are you going to call that?

-Yes, well...

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Because I know what I call it, I call it a "niece".

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Really? Well, I would call it a "nice".

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-Why?

-I think our family were just trying to be posher than they were

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and we'd heard of Nice.

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Well, exactly, so Nice - place in France.

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-You go down there with one of these, they won't know what you've got.

-No.

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The Rich Tea is one that's particularly prone to self-destruction,

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something that happens when they bake them

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if they don't cool them down right,

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they have a tension in the biscuit that's baked into them

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and they can spontaneously crack.

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There's something that we've only discovered recently

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using the same technique

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that they used for studying the materials in fighter plane wings,

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that you can shine laser beams off and can tell that.

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But when it comes down to it, you have to watch out - they could go at any minute.

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It's difficult not to judge people on their biscuit selection

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but I always do.

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I was always asking myself, why are they eating them?

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Is it because they have to?

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Is there some special reason, you know,

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a medical reason or what have you,

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they can't have anything too exciting or stimulating?

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They can't have anything too stimulating.

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There's a lot of bells and whistles going on in the biscuit world

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and you wonder sometimes whether there is any future

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for things like all these lovely little plain digestives

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and yet they're still there.

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-Ah, yes!

-Now we're onto the serious stuff.

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The boss of all the round and brown biscuits is the digestive.

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You always need to give your biscuit, especially a digestive,

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a tap on the side of your biscuit tin to check for structural integrity.

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It's quite a frugal smell. There's nothing extravagant about it.

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It's not creamy, it's not too sweet.

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This smells like my guinea pig's cage.

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Yep, that's a common thing with biscuits,

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-that kind of pet shop...

-Yeah. Ambience.

-I've often said that.

-Hamsters.

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Wine tasters will talk of gun flint

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and pet shop is a sort of phrase that you would use in biscuit tasting

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to be evocative of that kind of strange, damp, wheaty smell.

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When I used to go and buy straw, this is what this smells like.

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I've met people who smell of digestive biscuits, you know what I mean?

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Yes, I do know what you mean.

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When I was a kid and the biscuit tin came out,

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I dreaded getting to the bottom of it,

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knowing what would be left were the plain biscuits,

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the ones that your auntie ate,

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the ones that had no cream, no chocolate, no fondant icing, no fun.

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Sometimes they had sugar on top,

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sometimes they had little bobbles like a bath mat,

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but they were so boring.

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They were what I call prison biscuits.

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And then I think there comes a point, a sort of coming of age,

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when you sort of understand the plain biscuit.

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It has its own charm, it's just something that comes with age,

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the idea that you can eat something as a treat that isn't ostentatious.

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It probably means I'm getting on a bit.

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There's no frills to any of these biscuits,

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which is why my auntie always gave them frills.

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She would always bring them out on a plate with a doyley.

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I suppose she felt she had to dress them up.

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So we know the earliest biscuit eaters were burly seamen

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eating biscuits that were all about sustenance rather than indulgence.

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But how did things develop from the backbreaking work

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of men making hundreds of thousands of ship's biscuits

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into the sweeter biscuits that we all know and love today?

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I'm in Cumbria to meet biscuit historian Ivan Day.

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So in what way does things like the ship's biscuits,

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how are they a sort of precursor to the modern biscuit?

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Small biscuit bakers in towns all over Britain existed

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but the other side of it, not just bakers but confectioners,

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they also made biscuit

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and these were the upmarket luxury ones

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that were aimed really at the aristocracy, the nobility and the gentry.

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The biscuits that we've been looking at are very austere.

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They're more about sustenance, really.

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But these look very different. These look so elegant.

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Well, yes, elegant's the right word

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because these are biscuits from the 18th century,

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which is the period of Josiah Wedgwood and Chippendale.

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Sugar was very much the expensive preserve of the rich.

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Sweet confectionery and elaborate, fancified biscuits emerged

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out of the recipe books and the kitchens of the rich and famous.

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Dining was a kind of table theatre

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and this is just one of the performers, really,

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in what is an incredibly structured ending to the meal.

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It's the finale of the meal.

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I can see in a way

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that some of these were the precursors of modern commercial biscuits.

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-I mean, I'm seeing a Jammie Dodger here, possibly a Garibaldi...

-Yeah.

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These are like little fig rolls without the figs

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and this lumpiness, the way we like a very textured, oaty biscuit nowadays.

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This is almost like an early family assorted biscuit tin.

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Yeah, that's what I say - a Georgian assortment.

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A Georgian assortment.

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What were the working classes eating?

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Certainly not fancy biscuits like this.

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The working classes might be having things like tops and bottoms and rusks,

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-which they could buy from ordinary bakers.

-Tops and bottoms?

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It just has flour in it, no sugar.

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Parliaments was another thing, which was a gingerbread.

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But these are things you would find in, you know,

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the Duke of Wellington's dining room.

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Once sugar reached a broader public it was only a matter of time

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before a handful of artisan bakers and biscuit makers found ways

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to combine the industrial scale of the ship's biscuit

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with the fancier, sweeter tastes of the Georgian toffs.

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Using the tools of the period and some excess pastry,

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Ivan is keen to showcase the joys of Georgian and Regency biscuit printing techniques,

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a world of great craftsmanship.

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The artisan biscuit maker in the past was really serviced

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by an extraordinary skill base of people

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woodcarvers and metalworkers,

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who provided them with these tools.

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-This is the...

-The William one?

-Yeah, Sailor Bill, as he was called.

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Finish them off. The ones you'd do is the round one, actually.

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The Royal Volunteer biscuit.

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Is that a biscuit of beauty?

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Ah, look at that. Beautiful!

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Like prehistoric fossils,

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it really doesn't require a huge amount of imagination

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to see in these elaborate prints

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the future designs and patterns of everyday biscuits,

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such as malted milks and custard creams.

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But the biscuits of our wealthy ancestors weren't just about physical appearance.

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The entire process was an altogether sensory one, too.

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Imagine a little walnut biscuit baked from this mould,

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a little, crisp shell put against another one

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and then you break them and inside you've got a little biscuit walnut.

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I can't imagine anything more endearing, more charming,

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that you could put on a plate with a cup of tea.

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ARCHIVE: Now we come to that great hive of industry

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on the banks of Father Thames at Reading,

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the huge factory of Huntley and Palmers.

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From as early as 1830,

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a number of artisan biscuit makers riding the crest of the industrial revolution

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took the inevitable next step

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towards the mass manufacture of sweet biscuits

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for a much broader public.

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It was a chance encounter between George Palmer,

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who ran an artisan biscuit shop in Reading,

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and Thomas Huntley, who had developed the machinery to modernise biscuit production,

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that gave birth to the company.

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Very soon, our shapeless mess of dough emerges from rollers

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in the form of a rich carpet.

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Once again through rollers

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and it slides forward towards the machine that will shape its future.

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Within a very short amount of time,

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Huntley and Palmers' biscuits were being bought and sold

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as far away as India and China.

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By the late 19th century,

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they'd become the biggest biscuit manufacturer in the world.

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It's the inside man's job to pack the biscuits neatly in the tank.

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Those on the outside can't see what's going on inside,

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hence the job usually goes to a thin boy who doesn't like biscuits.

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Since industrial biscuit making began,

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whether the manufacturers were making Garibaldis, bourbons

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or digestives, firms have always guarded their recipes.

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At Reading University, I'm meeting an archivist

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to view a very rare artefact.

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This in fact is one of the recipe books.

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Oh! What?

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So we can actually see what was going into the biscuits.

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Oh, my goodness! Oh, my goodness!

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-Can I touch it?

-Yeah, of course.

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New milk and butter milk, sugar number one,

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butter and flour, lunch flour.

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Now the Marie, now this is the Marie biscuit.

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The Marie biscuit is flour, butter, sugar, condensed milk.

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They're almost slightly experimental,

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the fact that they're not cast in stone,

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they're sort of changing them.

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The thin arrowroot. So this is the recipe of the thin arrowroot,

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the biscuit that my mum loved almost beyond all others -

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delicate biscuits.

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So a little bit of time, just me and the original recipe book -

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well, under the beady eye of Alfred Palmer.

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But this is the little book. This is where they're all written down

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in beautiful copperplate

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and to think that this is where it all began

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the arrowroot, the Marie, the Garibaldi with its little currants,

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and biscuits I've never heard of,

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biscuits I can sort of only dream about.

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I wish I could taste some of these biscuits.

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Biscuits that are just lost, gone forever.

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And it's not just the biscuits that have been lost.

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All of the major manufacturers quite quickly established

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that most ubiquitous of containers, the biscuit tin, as a household necessity.

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All is not right in the world of the biscuit tin.

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It's not tin any more.

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You don't get that wonderful little tinny drumming sound with your fingernails.

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There aren't the remains of Sellotape round the edge -

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slowly you peel them off as the tin gets older.

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I was always secretly trying to get the top off

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without anybody hearing in the next room

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and then the joy of the second layer,

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of going down and finding that there's more treasure to be had underneath.

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If you were really clever you could pinch one.

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You wouldn't want it in the garage with nuts and bolts and screwdrivers in.

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You wouldn't even keep the dog's lead in it

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and those keys that you don't know what they're for but you don't want to throw away.

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That's what biscuit tins are for after the biscuits.

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Originally designed for transporting biscuits safely to distant customers

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and for shopkeepers to refill with loose biscuits,

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over time the biscuit tin was transformed

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from an object of utility into something much more creative.

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Very few of the Huntley and Palmer biscuits themselves remain

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because they were delicious, they've all been eaten.

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But the tins themselves do remain and they were a permanent gift.

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It really was used as a marketing technique

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and they would often create tins that would appeal to young children.

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Imagine getting that in your Christmas stocking and putting that on the table.

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That's a tin from Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee

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and she was known to take Osborne biscuits.

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Of course, she would enjoy an Osborne

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and I can't imagine her tucking into a Jammie Dodger or a custard cream.

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Here at the Reading Museum, there's one tin from the 1980s

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that took the notion of creativity to an entirely different level.

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What's going on there behind that little wall by the tree on the right hand side?

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Well, this tin had to be taken out of circulation

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when Associated Biscuits, who owned the company, realised

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that a couple of things had been introduced into the design that were quite shocking.

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On the table you can see a jam jar,

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It hasn't got the word jam written on it.

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-The designer's written the word "shit" on there.

-Oh, bless!

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And over in the corner there, there's two dogs procreating.

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Oh, how fantastic. Shit and shagging dogs, I love it.

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And in the far distance, we have two young lovers doing the same thing.

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I mean, Auntie handing them to the shocked vicar.

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"Do have some biscuits with your tea."

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I mean you would, wouldn't you, if you could?

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I mean, you would.

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Did you ever see such nimble fingers? She needs them too, to cope with a rush like this.

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The general expansion of the biscuit industry in Britain

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was inextricably entwined with the growth of rail travel.

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Other companies, such as Peek Freans in South London and Carr's of Carlisle,

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all became market leaders

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due to their close proximity to the railway lines,

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a fast and efficient way of getting salesmen around the country.

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So the representative would carry that around with him,

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lots of little tins of biscuits, all hinged.

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It's a doctor's case for biscuits.

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Imagine carrying that!

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You are this guy who's walking around

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and it's not cleaning things, it's biscuits.

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People would welcome you, wouldn't they?

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Brendan has a few final treats to show me,

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hidden deep within Reading Museum's vaults.

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Those are the tins. That's how my biscuit life started.

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Percy Salt the grocer in Wolverhampton used to have those

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and at the bottom there used to be broken ones.

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The factory workers would get a pound of broken biscuits on a Friday.

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The cry would go out, "Where's my broken?"

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Biscuits became such a part of British culinary life

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that the factory had its own celebrity visitors.

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-Oh, there!

-There he is, there.

-There he is.

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"Oscar Wilde, poet."

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But it's interesting, because someone has come along

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and introduced these three question marks in rather blunt handwriting.

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I wonder when that was done.

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And even letters of complaint reached the factory

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from as far afield as the South Pole.

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-Scott of the Antarctic.

-Captain Scott.

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"We find on opening on the tins of Antarctic emergency biscuits

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"that the biscuits are considerably cracked and broken

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"but I think also that some change has taken place which makes them more brittle.

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"The breaking of the biscuit is not really a serious drawback

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"but the point might have your attention

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"in case it's possible to avoid it."

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I think he was lucky to get his biscuits, frankly.

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And during the Great War they functioned as emotional keepsakes.

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It's a First World War army biscuit

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and it's one of those that has been fashioned into a picture frame

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containing a soldier's portrait that was sent home to his mother.

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Oh!

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-Very, very special.

-Yeah.

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Whilst Scott and his men's lives depended on Huntley and Palmers' supplies,

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in no small way my early childhood utterly depended on a survival pack

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that was of equal importance to me.

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One of the best bits of my childhood

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was not my Christmas stocking or my birthday presents,

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it was the lunchbox,

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that little box that I would take on trips, picnics, on the school bus

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and I'd take the lid off and I never knew quite what was going to be inside it.

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There'd be jam sandwiches, a banana...

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I don't like the smell of bananas in lunchboxes.

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But there'd always be a biscuit.

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In fact, there'd always be more than one biscuit.

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They were the biscuits of my childhood.

0:27:520:27:54

And as much as I envied the adult biscuits,

0:27:540:27:57

there were ones that I felt were mine,

0:27:570:27:59

biscuits I could really have fun with,

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like chocolate Bourbon biscuits, custard creams, Penguins -

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something that was more than just a biscuit.

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It had layers.

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And it was that moment of hope as you peel off the lid

0:28:110:28:14

and you think, "What's going to be in it today?"

0:28:140:28:17

"What is that extra treat?"

0:28:170:28:18

Sometimes it'd be a little handful of iced gems,

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the ones you bite the icing off and then you're left with a boring, little biscuit.

0:28:210:28:24

Sometimes it'd be a salty Ritz cracker - I'd never know.

0:28:240:28:27

And that was part of the fun, part of the joy of my childhood lunchboxes.

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I never quite knew what was going to be in there.

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But I had hopes.

0:28:350:28:36

Like greedy time travellers,

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Nicey and I are moving on to those biscuits we indulged in as young boys.

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See, this is how you can make your biscuits more exciting.

0:28:550:28:58

-They've got a malted milk and a sports biscuit.

-Oh, yeah.

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So what we're doing now is we're embossing it with exciting figures of cows

0:29:000:29:05

and as a child my approach to that, immediately, without hesitation,

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would be to nibble the cow out. NIGEL LAUGHS

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I remember thinking as a child,

0:29:110:29:13

wouldn't it be brilliant if you could get a reverse malted milk

0:29:130:29:16

that was like a mirror image, nibble both cows out,

0:29:160:29:19

stick them back to back - you'd have an entire 3D biscuity cow.

0:29:190:29:23

Starting to worry me a little.

0:29:230:29:25

MOOING

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After a while, the biscuit guys decided

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that what you can do is get two biscuits,

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put them back to back and put something up the middle

0:29:320:29:34

and here is the archetypal sandwich biscuit, which is the custard cream.

0:29:340:29:38

One of the world's great ideas.

0:29:380:29:41

And the fabulous thing about it is you've got custard

0:29:410:29:43

and so to have a biscuit that should be filled with custard...

0:29:430:29:47

It isn't. That's something that I...

0:29:470:29:50

-Probably you've come to terms with, I don't know.

-Just about, yes.

0:29:500:29:53

And it's one of these utterly timeless biscuits.

0:29:530:29:56

Custard creams. Really, they were Mum's biscuits.

0:29:560:29:59

-Got a squashed fly biscuit?

-A Garibaldi.

-A Garibaldi.

-Garibaldi.

0:29:590:30:03

It's almost like an Airfix kit of a biscuit,

0:30:030:30:05

that you get this big slab of Garibaldi,

0:30:050:30:07

which you then break into individual Garibaldis.

0:30:070:30:09

-There's something about the way it breaks.

-Yes.

-It's a very soft break.

0:30:090:30:13

That is an exciting biscuit right there.

0:30:160:30:17

The ginger nut, the middle is all calm

0:30:170:30:19

and then outside here, can you see how that's all broken away

0:30:190:30:23

as the ginger nut's expanded?

0:30:230:30:24

It's like looking at an alien world, isn't it?

0:30:240:30:27

They find moons round Jupiter and they're all like,

0:30:270:30:29

"It's got a line like that little round bit."

0:30:290:30:31

I think it's the same with ginger nuts.

0:30:310:30:33

Each one has got its own story to tell

0:30:330:30:36

about how it was formed and how it came to life.

0:30:360:30:39

There you go, Nigel,

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There's your other archetypal cream biscuit, it's the Bourbon.

0:30:400:30:43

-Hadn't they used to have more sugar on?

-Yeah

0:30:430:30:45

but what we're always looking for in the Bourbon is ten holes.

0:30:450:30:48

I've got my tape measure, because a Bourbon should be 63...

0:30:480:30:52

62 cm... 62 mm is what we like in a Bourbon.

0:30:520:30:57

-You are measuring a Bourbon.

-Yeah.

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And also that thing of running your teeth down the cream.

0:31:020:31:05

-I know I did - wasn't supposed to.

-Yeah.

0:31:050:31:08

That's what your top two front teeth are,

0:31:080:31:10

for leaving tracks in biscuit cream.

0:31:100:31:12

-I can't believe I've met somebody who knows how many holes there are in a Bourbon.

-Ten.

0:31:120:31:16

There's a lot of memories in a biscuit for me.

0:31:230:31:26

The lemon puff was originally my dad's biscuit

0:31:280:31:31

and this was the biscuit that my dad would take up to his greenhouse with a cup of coffee

0:31:310:31:36

and he'd do whatever men do in their greenhouses

0:31:360:31:38

with their tomato plants and orchids and what have you

0:31:380:31:41

but he'd have a couple of these.

0:31:410:31:44

And then there's the pink wafer.

0:31:440:31:46

This was the biscuit that was always left in the biscuit tin

0:31:460:31:49

when all the others had gone

0:31:490:31:50

and it was like a sad biscuit,

0:31:500:31:52

it was the one that nobody wanted and I certainly didn't.

0:31:520:31:55

But my mum loved them.

0:31:550:31:57

There's something quite vulnerable and frail about the pink wafer.

0:31:570:32:01

It's a very gentle biscuit, very tender.

0:32:010:32:04

It has a sort of feminine charm to it. It's really rather lovely.

0:32:040:32:10

And it was Mum's biscuit.

0:32:120:32:13

-I'll have some biscuits, too.

-Dry or sweet?

0:32:170:32:19

Now, no discussion of biscuits could be complete

0:32:190:32:22

without the savoury biscuit, the cracker.

0:32:220:32:25

That's the biscuit I used to take to bed when I was kid,

0:32:260:32:29

a square cream cracker spread with lots of salty butter.

0:32:290:32:34

To this day, if I'm not very well it'll be that that I'll turn to.

0:32:340:32:38

All these biscuits have a personality.

0:32:380:32:40

I mean literally - who was Dr Oliver?

0:32:400:32:43

Who was Mr Jacob?

0:32:450:32:48

And who were the Carrs?

0:32:480:32:51

Most of the leading biscuit firms in Britain were run by Quakers.

0:32:540:32:58

It therefore seems right that the most ardent Quaker firms

0:32:580:33:01

were making the more abstemious biscuits.

0:33:010:33:04

One such company was Carr's of Carlisle,

0:33:040:33:06

a firm that brought Quaker values to bear on every part of their business.

0:33:060:33:11

I've caught up with the Beatles' biographer Hunter Davies,

0:33:110:33:14

who's writing a book about the firm's history.

0:33:140:33:17

Jonathan Dodgson Carr was a Quaker.

0:33:170:33:20

He was tough but he was very benevolent -

0:33:200:33:22

he tried to look after the workers.

0:33:220:33:24

This is an apprentice at Carr's in 1849

0:33:240:33:28

and in this contract, amongst other things, it says

0:33:280:33:31

that, "he shall not commit fornication

0:33:310:33:36

"nor contract matrimony within the said term,

0:33:360:33:39

"shall not play at cards or dice tables or any other unlawful games."

0:33:390:33:44

That's almost like a footballer's contract today.

0:33:440:33:48

-Well, except for...

-Apart from the fornication.

0:33:480:33:50

And the whole point with Quaker firms is that you think really of the future.

0:33:500:33:54

You're not thinking of quick profits today

0:33:540:33:57

and closing things down because they're not working.

0:33:570:34:00

The first factory had baths, they'd had school rooms,

0:34:000:34:03

they had libraries, they're trying to feed the workers,

0:34:030:34:06

not the shareholders.

0:34:060:34:07

I know you're writing about a group of women

0:34:070:34:09

who worked at the Carr's biscuit factory.

0:34:090:34:11

-They were called cracker packers.

-Cracker packers!

0:34:110:34:15

And they did what that suggests -

0:34:150:34:17

they stood there packing crackers into the wrapping machines.

0:34:170:34:23

They also had the most brilliant magazine called the Topper Off.

0:34:230:34:26

Why was it called the Topper Off?

0:34:260:34:28

Because the lady on the production line, the last lady, put the top on.

0:34:280:34:33

She was the topper off, so the magazine was called the Topper Off.

0:34:330:34:36

I was looking at a 1963 edition

0:34:360:34:39

and the Beatles came to Carlisle in 1963.

0:34:390:34:42

One of the girls, the cracker packers, had gone there

0:34:420:34:44

and written a beautiful first-hand account

0:34:440:34:47

of going to the concert at the Lonsdale Cinema.

0:34:470:34:49

It's one of the earliest first-hand accounts of them on tour.

0:34:490:34:53

Round about the time that I was saving my pocket money up for Beatles' albums

0:35:020:35:07

and my brother would come home with really cool clothes,

0:35:070:35:11

like suede boots and those skinny knitted ties...

0:35:110:35:15

I was looking for a new biscuit, something different,

0:35:170:35:19

a big boy's biscuit.

0:35:190:35:21

So there was the chocolate Penguin,

0:35:220:35:24

with its beautiful jewel-coloured wrappers.

0:35:240:35:26

There was the Jacob's Club with the thick, thick chocolate.

0:35:260:35:31

There's something different about these.

0:35:310:35:33

They were luxurious but they were also quite hip.

0:35:330:35:36

# If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our club! #

0:35:360:35:41

But there was also the Jaffa Cake.

0:35:420:35:45

This was the biscuit that my brother introduced me to,

0:35:450:35:47

a wonderful little biscuit, but very special.

0:35:470:35:50

It's got a layer of sponge, which in those days was quite crisp and dry,

0:35:500:35:54

and a bit of chocolaty coating

0:35:540:35:56

and then inside, that wonderful little disc of jelly.

0:35:560:35:58

In fact, the whole thing's a bit like a disc.

0:35:580:36:00

It was like a little 45 rpm record, a little single.

0:36:000:36:03

You know, I'd also heard, and it may not be true,

0:36:040:36:07

that when the Beatles got their first royalty cheque,

0:36:070:36:10

John Lennon had spent some of it on an entire box, a crate,

0:36:100:36:15

of Jaffa Cakes.

0:36:150:36:17

There's good taste for you.

0:36:170:36:19

# Oh, you've got lots of biscuits Different shapes and different types

0:36:190:36:24

# But in the end we know there's one That everybody likes

0:36:240:36:27

# It's full of country goodness... #

0:36:270:36:30

But whenever I consider all those biscuits

0:36:300:36:32

I really loved as a growing teenager,

0:36:320:36:34

there's one particular biscuit I always return to - the Abbey Crunch,

0:36:340:36:40

which tragically stopped production back in 2006.

0:36:400:36:44

# It must be the oats! Yeah! #

0:36:440:36:47

If I reach in my rucksack here, I have something that you may appreciate.

0:36:470:36:51

Here we are. I saved this from 2006.

0:36:520:36:56

-No way!

-Yes.

0:36:580:37:00

Be very careful with this,

0:37:010:37:03

because it's possibly the last packet on the planet.

0:37:030:37:06

Oh! Look!

0:37:060:37:08

I knew that they were stopping the production of them

0:37:080:37:11

-and it was my favourite biscuit...

-It is the best biscuit ever.

0:37:110:37:13

There is no better biscuit, there will never be a better biscuit.

0:37:130:37:17

So this is the bit when I start to look a bit like a crazy biscuit guy.

0:37:170:37:20

-Well...

-But...

0:37:200:37:22

-This is the bit?

-Do you remember where you first had one?

0:37:220:37:25

Oh, heavens, yes. At my Auntie Marjorie and Uncle John's house

0:37:250:37:28

and out came these wonderful looking, rather cracked biscuits.

0:37:280:37:32

-Yes!

-They had a lovely open texture to them

0:37:320:37:34

and it really was love at first bite.

0:37:340:37:37

-When you try to make an Abbey Crunch, you can't.

-Yeah.

0:37:370:37:40

-And I've tried - you can't.

-Yes. Mary Berry tried to make some for me once.

0:37:400:37:44

-The wonderful Mary Berry.

-And they were lovely biscuits

0:37:440:37:46

but I couldn't look her in the eye and say that she'd done it and, yeah, that was an awkward moment.

0:37:460:37:51

Most of the biscuits we've eaten today,

0:37:530:37:55

it's just like going back through a photograph album.

0:37:550:37:58

-Yeah. Here we go.

-Ah, no way!

0:37:580:38:02

-No way! I haven't had one of those for years.

-What's that?

0:38:020:38:04

-That is a Café Noir, isn't it?

-It is.

0:38:040:38:07

Oh, there's something very, very grown up about a coffee biscuit.

0:38:070:38:11

Yeah, yeah. That's adult biscuit.

0:38:110:38:13

That is an adult biscuit, it's an adult smell.

0:38:130:38:16

I feel I've come of age, I've sort of reached biscuit puberty.

0:38:160:38:20

This is kind of the story of my life, this biscuit tin.

0:38:200:38:24

-It must be the story of yours as well.

-It certainly is.

0:38:240:38:26

I mean, I'm gazing at a biscuit right now that I vividly remember

0:38:260:38:30

as the first biscuit I had when I started my primary school.

0:38:300:38:33

-Are we talking Jammie Dodger?

-We are.

0:38:330:38:35

THEY LAUGH

0:38:350:38:37

So that is just jam in there

0:38:440:38:47

and it's industrial jam.

0:38:470:38:48

This is not jam that you'd put your toast in the morning,

0:38:480:38:51

This is biscuit jam. It's doing a job.

0:38:510:38:53

It's holding together two biscuits.

0:38:530:38:55

-You know like the strings on a pizza?

-Yes.

0:39:010:39:03

-Well, same thing.

-And you want to wrestle it apart

0:39:050:39:07

and you know if you do you're going to break it.

0:39:070:39:09

We've moved to the point where we're going to discuss chocolate.

0:39:150:39:18

That's a Wagon Wheel.

0:39:200:39:22

-You're going to talk to me about size, aren't you?

-I am. I'm sorry.

0:39:220:39:24

# Well, you can't help smiling When you eat a wagon wheel

0:39:240:39:28

# It tastes so good It almost seems a sin. #

0:39:280:39:31

Size is important.

0:39:310:39:33

# ..about a Wagon Wheel

0:39:330:39:35

# It's so big you've got to grin to get it in. #

0:39:350:39:37

-That is not what it used to be.

-So, indeed it isn't

0:39:390:39:43

but only slightly, because when they moved the production of these,

0:39:430:39:47

they changed the biscuit rollers and ever so slightly, they got smaller.

0:39:470:39:51

It was invented by a guy called Gary Weston.

0:39:510:39:53

He actually invented it very, very quickly.

0:39:530:39:55

They put it together from idea to production biscuit in about six weeks.

0:39:550:39:59

-And this was a Marie biscuit in there...

-Yeah.

0:39:590:40:02

..with a very thin layer of mallow

0:40:020:40:04

and the stuff round the outside was not chocolate.

0:40:040:40:06

They couldn't call it chocolate. It was called Blackpool coating.

0:40:060:40:10

But when they all came together it made a Wagon Wheel,

0:40:100:40:12

which for me was a fabulous, fabulous treat of a biscuit as a kid

0:40:120:40:16

-and still is today.

-It was worth spending every penny of your pocket money.

0:40:160:40:21

# If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our club. #

0:40:220:40:27

This was the biscuit of the special occasion.

0:40:270:40:30

-I suppose, because we didn't really have afternoon tea...

-Yeah.

0:40:300:40:33

..when we went somewhere, like an auntie or uncle's house or something like that,

0:40:330:40:36

this is what would come out in a little pile on a plate,

0:40:360:40:40

usually with roses on, and a little doyley.

0:40:400:40:42

The thing about the Club is it used to have amazingly huge amounts of chocolate on there.

0:40:420:40:46

Where's the ruddy chocolate?

0:40:460:40:48

So much so that you could bite it off in lumps.

0:40:480:40:50

The chocolate was so thick that you could bite it off

0:40:500:40:53

without damaging the biscuit.

0:40:530:40:55

The chocolate-covered digestive. It's the nation's favourite biscuit.

0:40:580:41:01

-Is it?

-Yep. We do more chocolate digestives than any other biscuit.

0:41:010:41:06

-But for me it has to be dark chocolate.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:41:060:41:09

-You're a dark chocolate man?

-I'm a dark chocolate man.

0:41:090:41:11

I wouldn't want to cast aspersions on your character -

0:41:110:41:13

that's not what we're here to do -

0:41:130:41:15

but people who like the plain chocolate digestive I tend to think

0:41:150:41:19

do have a sense of self-superiority about them.

0:41:190:41:22

-Am I wrong?

-Erm...

0:41:270:41:30

Not far... Not far off.

0:41:330:41:35

Let's put it this way, you hear the phrase, "Well, I like the plain ones,"

0:41:350:41:40

thrown back at you in a kind of mildly judgemental way.

0:41:400:41:46

OK. I'm a bit smug.

0:41:480:41:50

Maybe biscuits can tell us something about what sort of people we are,

0:41:580:42:02

but there's one thing we do with biscuits

0:42:020:42:05

that splits us down the middle to dunk or not to dunk.

0:42:050:42:08

So Proust dunked his madeleine.

0:42:100:42:12

You have to dunk a ship's biscuit in order to make it edible.

0:42:120:42:16

But dunking has other connotations too - it's a social thing.

0:42:160:42:20

In fact, Debrett's insists that you shouldn't dunk

0:42:200:42:24

unless you're in very informal company.

0:42:240:42:26

My father thought dunking was a bit common. I wasn't allowed to.

0:42:270:42:32

I used to dunk when he wasn't looking.

0:42:320:42:33

But dunking is something that I think is quite essential,

0:42:330:42:36

it's quite important.

0:42:360:42:38

There are dunking moments

0:42:380:42:39

and it shouldn't, I think, be taken lightly.

0:42:390:42:42

I'm heading off to Hull University

0:42:460:42:49

where, as mad scientists tend to, they conduct research

0:42:490:42:52

into countless everyday objects, such as the biscuit,

0:42:520:42:55

whether it's testing them under extreme pressure

0:42:550:42:58

to help manufacturers with packaging,

0:42:580:43:00

or igniting them to better illustrate the calorific content in food.

0:43:000:43:04

I'm here for another reason

0:43:040:43:06

to explore what happens when we dunk a biscuit into something hot.

0:43:060:43:10

-Oh, I get to wear glasses like you.

-HE SNIGGERS

0:43:100:43:13

There we are - how cool are these?

0:43:140:43:16

This is a very important subject to me

0:43:160:43:18

because there's nothing worse than that soggy debris

0:43:180:43:23

-at the bottom of the cup...

-The sludge at the end of your cup of tea.

-The sludge.

0:43:230:43:26

So what exactly happens when we dunk a biscuit into tea or hot water?

0:43:260:43:31

You've got to understand what a biscuit is

0:43:310:43:33

and biscuit is grains of starch all compacted together

0:43:330:43:36

and, as you know, it's made with fat and sugar

0:43:360:43:39

that basically is the glue that holds it together.

0:43:390:43:42

When you put it into water, the sugar and the fat start to dissolve

0:43:420:43:46

and the biscuit starts to fall apart.

0:43:460:43:48

What you'll also see is when we put it in the water,

0:43:480:43:50

the same way in which water comes up a plant,

0:43:500:43:54

it will actually crawl up against gravity.

0:43:540:43:56

Inside the biscuits on a microscopic level

0:43:560:43:59

there are tiny holes that act just like that, like capillaries,

0:43:590:44:02

and the water actually climbs up against gravity.

0:44:020:44:04

We're taking the nation's ten favourite dunking biscuits

0:44:040:44:07

and by dunking them all within an inch of their lives,

0:44:070:44:10

we'll arrive at Britain's strongest drunker.

0:44:100:44:13

Number one, the chocolate chip cookie.

0:44:130:44:16

We're timing it, so we can compare it with the other ones.

0:44:160:44:18

-The fluid is drawing up.

-It's over halfway.

0:44:180:44:21

-Oh! We've lost a chocolate chip.

-The first casualty.

0:44:210:44:24

That is a dunking disaster.

0:44:240:44:26

-Ginger Nut next. Is this one going to last a long time?

-I think it'll last forever.

0:44:260:44:30

Oh, heavens! That is going up really quickly.

0:44:300:44:33

-That's the old capillary action I told you about.

-Yeah.

0:44:330:44:36

Ooh.

0:44:360:44:38

This is the HobNob. Let's go for it.

0:44:380:44:40

Look, straight away - crumbs cascading down.

0:44:400:44:44

Look, all that in the bottom of your cup. Yuck.

0:44:440:44:47

Oh, look! You'd end up eating that with a teaspoon.

0:44:470:44:51

It's time for the chocolate digestive.

0:44:510:44:53

The chocolate formed a layer that helped hold it together.

0:44:540:44:57

-Ready with the custard cream?

-Yeah, I'm always ready for a custard cream.

0:44:570:45:01

What we'll probably find with this one is

0:45:010:45:03

the cream centre will act a bit like a glue to hold it together for longer.

0:45:030:45:07

-Next up, chocolate Bourbon.

-It's a slightly coarser crumb.

-Mm-hm.

0:45:090:45:12

-Digestive.

-Yeah.

-We all love a digestive.

0:45:140:45:17

-Complete dunking disaster.

-That just doesn't work at all.

0:45:190:45:23

So, Rich tea. And the clock is ticking.

0:45:250:45:28

It's just going to sit there, isn't it?

0:45:290:45:32

It hasn't moved at all.

0:45:320:45:33

Over ten minutes now. Still going.

0:45:350:45:38

It feels like a wet bath mat.

0:45:410:45:43

-The HobNob lasted a paltry 13 seconds.

-I knew it.

0:45:440:45:49

And the king of the hill was the Rich Tea,

0:45:490:45:52

which lasted well in excess of ten minutes.

0:45:520:45:54

-It's the safety biscuit.

-The biscuit you can always rely on.

0:45:540:45:58

Making no judgments, but there is a consumer study

0:46:010:46:05

that tells exactly who buys what newspaper and what biscuit.

0:46:050:46:11

The Daily Mail reader, the Garibaldi, the plain arrowroot

0:46:110:46:15

and they're quite partial to a Rich Tea as well.

0:46:150:46:17

The Guardian reader likes all the posh stuff -

0:46:170:46:20

the amarettis, the chocolate Florentines and the biscottis.

0:46:200:46:24

The Sun likes a pink wafer. In fact, the Sun loves a pink wafer.

0:46:240:46:30

The Scotsman reader will be tucking into an oatcake.

0:46:300:46:33

It's just what it says.

0:46:330:46:35

But no story of the British biscuit is complete

0:46:350:46:38

without acknowledging our friends in the north.

0:46:380:46:40

McVitie's, born in Edinburgh in 1830,

0:46:400:46:43

is to this day the market leader in a £2.3 billion British biscuit industry.

0:46:430:46:50

Its most famous creation was the digestive biscuit,

0:46:500:46:53

invented by Alexander Grant in 1892.

0:46:530:46:57

ARCHIVE: In Scotland they eat twice as many chocolate biscuits as anywhere in England.

0:46:570:47:01

But the Scots are merely leaders in an expanding field.

0:47:010:47:04

In the jargon of the trade,

0:47:040:47:05

the informal snack occasion has become a growth area.

0:47:050:47:09

As history proves, the Scots are a fiercely loyal nation

0:47:090:47:13

and so what better place to visit

0:47:130:47:15

to explore the point at which loyalty to a particular biscuit brand

0:47:150:47:19

verges on, well, the fanatical.

0:47:190:47:22

I'm here in St Andrews to meet a group of former students

0:47:230:47:26

who are hiding somewhere on the campus.

0:47:260:47:29

-Hello.

-Hello, I'm Nigel.

-I'm Alastair.

-Alastair, hi.

-Welcome.

0:47:300:47:35

This is where the St Andrews University Tunnock's Caramel Wafer Appreciation Society was founded,

0:47:350:47:41

in this very space.

0:47:410:47:42

We have a photograph of this room

0:47:420:47:45

-wallpapered in Caramel Wafer wrappers.

-Oh, what?!

0:47:450:47:48

Oh, what?!

0:47:490:47:52

This... This is so beautiful.

0:47:520:47:55

-I love the way it goes right up to the top.

-Yes, yes.

0:47:550:47:57

Except the corner that we probably couldn't reach.

0:47:570:47:59

It's just so beautiful.

0:47:590:48:01

One of our stunts, and we had many suggestions, was

0:48:010:48:04

to send a packet of Caramel Wafers to notable people of the day,

0:48:040:48:08

ask them to eat the wafer

0:48:080:48:09

and send back the wrapper with their autograph

0:48:090:48:12

and we then auctioned the autographs for charity.

0:48:120:48:14

Somebody sent some to Ted Hughes, the Poet Laureate of the day,

0:48:140:48:18

and I have a lovely letter from his wife Carol

0:48:180:48:21

that says, "Thank you very much for the wafers.

0:48:210:48:24

"Ted has now signed all the wrappers

0:48:240:48:26

"and I'm afraid to say I ate all the wafers,"

0:48:260:48:28

and back came these wrappers

0:48:280:48:30

and the wrappers had on them original poems or verses

0:48:300:48:33

that Ted Hughes had sketched on the back of these wrappers.

0:48:330:48:36

Our finest treasure is this, the Ted Hughes poem.

0:48:360:48:41

Oh, this is the Ted Hughes poem.

0:48:410:48:42

So this is Ted Hughes' own poem in his own handwriting.

0:48:420:48:45

"To have swallowed a crocodile Would make anybody smile

0:48:450:48:49

"But to swallow a caramel wafer Is safer."

0:48:490:48:53

-Beautiful, isn't it?

-Bless him.

0:48:560:48:57

Here's one that might interest you. Look at this.

0:48:570:49:00

Oh! Bless him!

0:49:000:49:02

-Oh, bless him, we miss him so much.

-Yes!

0:49:020:49:05

I love his little wine glass. Oh, isn't that a thing of beauty?

0:49:050:49:08

A particular moment of merriment comes from NASA,

0:49:080:49:11

-when we sent a Caramel Wafer to NASA.

-From NASA?

-Yes, yes.

0:49:110:49:16

We wrote to NASA and asked them whether it would be possible

0:49:160:49:19

to send a Caramel Wafer into space,

0:49:190:49:22

so we had a beautiful letter back from NASA which goes like this.

0:49:220:49:25

"Dear Mr Johnson, I am sorry to be so late getting back to you

0:49:250:49:28

"in answer to your letter of February 19th

0:49:280:49:30

"but the person who answers our mail has been out sick

0:49:300:49:33

"and we are badly backlogged."

0:49:330:49:34

-NASA!

-Marvellous, I love it.

0:49:340:49:37

So we followed it up and they said to us

0:49:370:49:39

that for the very reasonable price of between 3,000 and 10,000,

0:49:390:49:43

we could then have it itemised as a scheduled payload on the shuttle

0:49:430:49:48

but the deposit of 500 was beyond our means in those days,

0:49:480:49:52

so we let it lie there.

0:49:520:49:53

Couldn't just slip it into their tuck box?

0:49:530:49:56

LAUGHTER Yes!

0:49:560:49:57

..three, two, one, liftoff!

0:49:570:50:00

Liftoff.

0:50:020:50:03

It strikes me that this strange fellowship, alive and kicking 30 years on,

0:50:060:50:11

is perhaps more about the wrapper than the actual biscuit.

0:50:110:50:15

There is almost a sort of ritual

0:50:150:50:17

around eating a Tunnock's Caramel Wafer

0:50:170:50:19

the taking off of the wrapper, how you eat it, what you do with the wrapper after.

0:50:190:50:22

You have to fold the wrapper down.

0:50:220:50:24

-I open it right up and use it as a plate, the wrapper, like so.

-I keep hold of the wrapper.

0:50:240:50:29

-I just eat them whole!

-GROANING

0:50:290:50:32

This is really quite extraordinary.

0:50:340:50:37

And not a little bonkers, either.

0:50:370:50:39

The meeting of the old - that's the founders - and its newest members,

0:50:390:50:43

it's such a simple thing in a complicated world.

0:50:430:50:46

You have to protect the biscuit, keep it safe,

0:50:490:50:53

and the biscuit tin is an obvious place to keep it,

0:50:530:50:55

but a biscuit tin also says keep out.

0:50:550:50:57

An individual wrapper, on the other hand, is very different.

0:50:570:51:01

It's welcoming, it's inviting, that little crackle of a wrapper.

0:51:010:51:08

You're unwrapping a present, it's a gift, it's something special.

0:51:110:51:14

It's a treat.

0:51:140:51:16

But then when that's gone, you've still got the wrapper,

0:51:160:51:19

you've got this beautiful little thing,

0:51:190:51:21

whether it's silver or gold or red, whether it's stripy,

0:51:210:51:25

whether it's got a logo on it -

0:51:250:51:27

you've got this and this is so important.

0:51:270:51:30

And this is something that modern companies are forgetting.

0:51:310:51:36

Things are being wrapped for freshness,

0:51:360:51:38

they are being wrapped for safety,

0:51:380:51:39

they're being wrapped to be tamper-proof.

0:51:390:51:43

But what's that about? You're losing the ritual, it's gone.

0:51:430:51:46

You can fold it, you can write on it, you can use it as a bookmark.

0:51:460:51:50

Press the creases out of a foil wrapping...

0:51:510:51:55

and you're pressing the stress out of your life. It's just gone.

0:51:550:51:58

Given the extreme to which brand loyalties can go,

0:52:010:52:04

I'm keen to understand the ways

0:52:040:52:06

in which advertisers divide us, the biscuit buying public,

0:52:060:52:10

into certain types of buyers.

0:52:100:52:13

There are areas for biscuits, OK?

0:52:140:52:17

There's one which is called the share biscuit.

0:52:170:52:20

We're all going to share some biscuits.

0:52:200:52:22

Then you get biscuits such as a treat biscuit.

0:52:220:52:25

-Miss Cartwright, I propose...

-Mr Wagstaffe!

0:52:250:52:28

..that we always have Fox's biscuits.

0:52:280:52:32

You then get the health biscuit, so what they do

0:52:320:52:34

is that the perception, from a brand perception, is that this is a healthy biscuit.

0:52:340:52:38

Chuck a few oats in, it's healthy.

0:52:380:52:40

They're really delicious, light and crunchy,

0:52:400:52:43

with a natural home-baked taste.

0:52:430:52:46

Then you get the gift biscuits.

0:52:460:52:47

New Chocolate Wafer Fingers were invented by Cadbury's

0:52:470:52:51

for special occasions.

0:52:510:52:53

Then you have the fix-it biscuit.

0:52:530:52:55

If you were making a biscuit, which is a fix-it biscuit,

0:52:550:52:57

what kind of way would you go?

0:52:570:53:00

I would go chocolaty, I would go crumbly.

0:53:000:53:03

KIDS CHEERING

0:53:030:53:04

# P-pick up a penguin

0:53:070:53:09

# A lovely big penguin

0:53:090:53:11

# When you p-p-p-pick up a penguin There's so much more to enjoy

0:53:110:53:14

# If you feel a little more peckish... #

0:53:140:53:17

I spent far too much of my childhood saying...

0:53:170:53:19

-P-p-p-p-penguin!

-Exactly.

0:53:190:53:22

What was going through the advertising people's brains at that time was

0:53:220:53:26

this really important aspect of the child doing something.

0:53:260:53:29

Well, what is a child doing? Two things.

0:53:290:53:32

Number one, the child is doing this alliteration stuff of p-p-p-p-penguin.

0:53:320:53:37

"Do you want a p-p-p-penguin?" and all that stuff,

0:53:370:53:39

so that would go into their heads, OK?

0:53:390:53:41

And the second thing is that it's got this idea that each Penguin,

0:53:410:53:46

the wrapper was a different colour,

0:53:460:53:48

which meant that they were very collectible, yeah?

0:53:480:53:51

I've got the red colour, you've got whatever it might be,

0:53:510:53:54

so that was very, very clever.

0:53:540:53:56

# Girls are nice but, boy, what I seek comes with Oreo. #

0:53:560:54:03

This is about the twist, the lick and the dunk.

0:54:040:54:08

-This brand is America.

-Well, all gone.

0:54:110:54:15

Is it really the world's biggest seller?

0:54:150:54:17

It is the biggest selling biscuit, it is the Holy Grail of biscuits.

0:54:170:54:21

Actually came out about 1912, so it's over 100 years old, yeah?

0:54:210:54:25

In terms of a brand,

0:54:250:54:26

how do you make something which has such an incredible heritage

0:54:260:54:30

part of our own culture? That's a really big ask.

0:54:300:54:34

The amazing thing is is I think that they've done it.

0:54:340:54:37

People are twisting, licking and dunking.

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One thing that still persists in the world of all things biscuity is

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that ultimate of questions when is a biscuit not a biscuit?

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-What's in your box?

-What is in the box is controversy.

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In our Venn diagram of the biscuit world,

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these are all the things that are on the outside,

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they're all the things that cause people problems.

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Are they a biscuit or aren't they a biscuit?

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-Biscuit.

-Biscuit.

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Biscuit.

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I've always missed out on something.

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-Because I'm not an egg eater...

-Right.

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..I have missed out on that boiled egg moment

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when you tap the shell with your teaspoon,

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so this is the nearest I ever got,

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that moment when you just tap the top and you've gone in.

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What's the brandy snap doing there?

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Brandy snap - brandy snap's not a biscuit.

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Isn't it a biscuit? Is that a cake?

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No, it's not a cake but it's not a biscuit either.

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Well, it's an outlier, isn't it?

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-It's an outlier, it's on the very edge of your Venn diagram.

-Yeah.

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-So, biscuit or cake?

-Biscuit.

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-Biscuit?

-Yeah.

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-Biscuit?

-I can tell you don't agree by your tone.

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Well, that one has been to court and been bounced around

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and this one is now classified for VAT purposes as a cake.

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-Don't start me.

-I'm going to start you on that.

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-Is this a biscuit?

-Let's cut to it. It's a wafer.

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It's a wafer with chocolate round it but it will not be pinned down,

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it refuses to be pinned down and it doesn't want to be pinned down.

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So what for you is the definition of a biscuit?

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The thing that really makes a biscuit a biscuit is

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the way that every type of these biscuits is the same as its brethren.

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That's something that we put a lot of trust into, it comforts us,

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so we know that these things are always going to be the same

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and that's a point in our day where whatever else is going on,

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our biscuit friends are there for us.

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They are our friends.

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Biscuits are indeed our culinary friends.

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The containers may have changed

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and the original companies may have been swallowed up,

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but the biscuits themselves, all wrapped in their packs,

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uniformly patterned, mass produced,

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have become something that is surprisingly rare

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in this day and age.

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Whatever anyone says, biscuits are dependable

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and woe betide any manufacturers who tamper

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with this comforting constant in our lives.

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You know, there are vandals in the world of sweets,

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in the world of chocolates, in the world of biscuits.

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They fiddle around with things, they repackage things,

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-they change the shape, they change the smell.

-Yeah.

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No! I want... They should all be tied to a chair

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with their hands behind their back.

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They should not be allowed to fiddle with things.

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When they get messed with, people really can't cope with it.

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These are things that are almost part of our DNA,

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-they're part of our lives.

-Yes!

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Leave it alone. Leave the packaging alone, leave the shape of it alone,

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-the smell of it alone.

-It's like someone, you know...

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It's not like losing a limb obviously, that would be a silly thing to say,

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but it's like people messing with the fundamental fabric of your life.

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If your fig roll is perfect with the ends open, why make them closed?

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And you did tell me you've got the name of the person who killed the Abbey Crunch.

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Yeah, I do, but I couldn't reveal that.

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