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# Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you... # | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Welcome to a rare and unusual birthday party. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
# Happy birthday, dear Doris Happy birthday... # | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Doris Griffiths, born in Neath in 1910, is 105 today. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
Thank you all very much. Thank you all. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
Doris is one of more than 600 people over 100 years old | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
living across Wales in 2015, the highest number ever recorded. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
What I want to know is what's the magic, what's the secret? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
I have what I want to eat | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
and my favourite breakfast is a nice bit of toast. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
But while Doris is living proof that a growing minority of people in Wales | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
are living healthier, longer lives, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
what can I do to help guarantee the same for me and my young family? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
It is part of being a mum that you want to give them | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
the best possibilities in life right from the minute they're born, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
especially when an alarming number of us | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
are already struggling at an early age. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
I could have a heart attack any day. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:13 | |
I just feel like I could be a bit of a ticking time bomb. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
So what is it about Welsh life and Welsh lifestyles that's got | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Doris Griffiths to the grand old age of 105, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
while 31-year-old Lee Tantem fears that every day could be his last? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:31 | |
I'm Michela Chiappa and I'm a proud Welsh woman with strong Italian roots | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
and I'm hoping to use those roots to try | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
and solve the secrets to a long and healthy life. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
'It's a journey that will take me across the valleys of South Wales...' | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
How does it feel to be Merthyr's only centenarian? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
That's a pretty cool achievement. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
'..and then on to Sardinia and the valley with the highest percentage | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
'of 100-year-olds in Europe.' | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
I just asked what is the secret of living until he's 100, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
and he said it's not to die before. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
So what is the answer? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Have we any choice in avoiding an early grave? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Well, I've travelled from South Wales to Sardinia | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
to search for the secret of living a long life and a happy one. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
So stay with me in the hope of answering a life-and-death question - | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
how can we live to 100? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
Merthyr in the South Wales valleys, the town where I was born | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
and raised, and where much of my family still live today. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
Although as my surname Chiappa probably suggests, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Merthyr is not where we originally came from. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
My family moved from Italy to Wales to set up this business | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
here in Merthyr over 50 years ago and the one thing | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
they all talk about is how similar the Welsh and the Italians are. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
We all love food, family and community, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
but one thing has definitely changed and that is how long we live. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
During my lifetime, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
life expectancy in Italy has risen by an average of 15 years | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
and while the same is true of the more prosperous parts of Wales, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
in many towns and valleys throughout South Wales, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
life expectancy is among the lowest in Western Europe. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
For example, people from my hometown of Merthyr will live on average | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
10 years less than someone living in the affluent areas of Cardiff. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
So what's going on? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Well, we've all heard the stats - Wales is the most overweight nation | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
in Europe with the highest rates of diabetes, cancer and heart disease. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
So I'm going to begin my quest to discover the secrets to a longer life | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
by looking at the human face of the problems that prevent us living one. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
So this is Lee and Leanne Tantem with Lee's son Adam | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and six-month-old Maisie. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
They live near Pontypridd in the Rhondda Valley. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Lee works full-time and Leanne is currently on maternity leave. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Both are in their 30s and both are worried about their health. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
Just like the majority of us they try to eat well, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
but the combination of a hard-working, busy lifestyle | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and temptations of takeaways and convenience foods are strong. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Ta-da! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
Me and Leanne met in Slimming World. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
We were both doing really, really well. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
I'd lost about two stone, Leanne had lost three, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
and then we got together and we got comfy and the cosy nights in | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
with takeaways and chocolate in front of films and... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
Well, for me, I've put on all of it and more, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
so we're both to blame, really. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
We'd both be slim now if we hadn't met, I expect. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
# Giddy-up, we're homeward bound... # | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
You know how it is, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
you start feeling a bit comfortable with each other. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
We started eating sort of more takeaways and not really sticking to | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
a plan and it just kind of escalated from there, really. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Our lifestyle isn't very good. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
To be fair, we could probably do with a bit more exercise. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
I've got a very bad relationship with food. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Food is something I enjoy very much, maybe too much, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
from quite a young age. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
I suppose food was my first love. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
It's not that the Tantems can't cook, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
they can, and they do rustle up whole meals from scratch. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
It's just that, like so many of us, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
they regularly fall back on the easier options. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
We've got our processed food. Hash browns, not proud of it. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Turkey drummers... | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
..Magnums. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
I like processed food, don't get me wrong, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
but it's not good and I don't... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
I know I do, but I don't like giving it to the kids. I like to... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Hang on a second, I'm a bit out of breath now. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
See, that's just from bending over there and wrestling with that. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
It's not good. It's not good, is it? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
We've got a few health problems in the family. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
My father's side of the family, there's diabetes. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
My mum's had two heart attacks over the last 10 years. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
My dad, then, he suffers with angina on top of a ton of other things | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
and I just feel like I could be a bit of a ticking time bomb. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
I could have a heart attack any day and I really need to do | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
something to make sure I don't, so my lifestyle has to change. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
So Leanne and Lee can cook but, like many of us, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
life often gets in the way of a healthy diet. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
But their story has definitely spurred me on | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
my journey of discovery. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
In particular, is the answer to a long and healthy life really just | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
a matter of cutting out takeaways, processed foods and sugary treats? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
Well, if you're doing it to excess, then absolutely. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
But, by the same token, I'm currently far from convinced | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
that a life of mung beans and salad | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
is a sure-fire recipe for reaching 100. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
My family, for instance, have always indulged in a little of | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
"la dolce vita" and it's never done us any harm. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Cakes, cream, mascarpone, wine, pasta, cheese. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
We've never overdone it. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
CHILD MUMBLES But we've always indulged a little. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-Mm. -Mm. 'And regularly.' | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
THEY MUMBLE | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
And reaching our eighties and nineties is a common feature | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
with us, so I believe that a little bit of what you fancy | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
is definitely one of the ingredients in the recipe. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Although, I guess, the only way to begin to work out | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
the secrets of longevity is to go straight to the source, as it were. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
Here in Wales, there are currently 679 centenarians, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
but, as life's too short to visit them all, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
I'm going to visit just three of them. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Starting with an invite to a birthday party. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
I'm going to a birthday party later on of a lady who's 105, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
Doris in Neath. And, for her, I'm going to make my grandmother, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
my nonna's, very special crostata recipe. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
It's basically a jam tart, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
but it is a dish that my nonna always used to have in her kitchen. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
It was like magic. The minute that last slice would go, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
another one would appear. And it was something she always had there | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
on the side for anybody, the kids, the adults, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
a sweet treat with a cup of tea. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
My nonna's house was never without a tart or a cake. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
It was always home-baked, never shop-bought, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
with home-made jams from well-worn family recipes | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
that I'll be handing down to my children, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
as they were handed down to me. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Steady, yeah? Grazie. Mettere il forno. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
CHILD TALKS | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
'And, as I bring my crostata to Doris Griffith's 105th birthday party, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
'it wouldn't surprise me to find that, just like my nonna, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
'Doris has always enjoyed a regular slice of something sweet.' | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
PIANO PLAYS | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
# Happy birthday to you | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
# Happy birthday to you | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
# Happy birthday, dear Doris | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
# Happy birthday to you. # | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
-Thank you all very much. -Ey! | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Go on, blow them out. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
Thank you all very much. It's been a big surprise for me and, yep... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
I didn't... It makes a difference, when you're on your own. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-ALL: -Ah! -To see all these people and say | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
where on earth they've all come from. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
So, watching Doris, lively, sprightly, engaged in her | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
surroundings, I wondered if longevity is simply predestined. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
Written in our genes. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
So I was surprised to learn that Doris, born in Neath in 1910, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
was the only one of five children to survive | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
either an infant death or a miscarriage. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Educated at Gnoll School in Neath, she entered domestic service | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
at the age of 14 and spent the next 51 years working as a cleaner, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
a receptionist and in the kitchens, back at her old school. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
She married Ivor at 21 and had the first of her four children at 25. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
And, outside of work and family, life revolved around the chapel, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
where she sang in the choir and became a Sunday school teacher. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
After Ivor passed away 39 years ago in 1976, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
Doris continued to live in their home right up until last year. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
In every particular, her life, her upbringing, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
her story is echoed in any home, in any town in any of the Welsh valleys. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
So what made Doris the rare exception that made it to this incredible age? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
What I want to know is, what's the magic? What's the secret? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Well, I don't know that there's any secret. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
I live quite cheap and easy. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
I have what I want to eat | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
and my favourite breakfast is a nice bit of toast. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
-Nothing better. -And then, I... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Sometimes, I have a bit of cheese with it. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Or an egg, you never know. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Anything goes with me. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
I eat quite a bit. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-Always on the meal times. -OK. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-Three... -Three times a day? -I don't eat between meals at all. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Very rarely. It's just ordinary living, sort of thing. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
And your support networks? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Your family, your friends, having people that can help you | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-and you can depend on. -Yeah. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
-Do you think that's an important thing? -Ooh, yes. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
I mean, if you've got your family with you, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
you've got some backbone, haven't you? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Living is easy, if you're willing to do it. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
So a positive mind, maybe? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
Because, I mean to say, life... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I don't know, sometimes people talk as if life is awful to live. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Awful hard to live. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
I don't think so. It's what you make it. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
And, I mean, if you want to make it a good life, it's up to you. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
But if they want to upset it, well, that's their fault, isn't it? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
So I need to say, it's you are the important person all the time. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
And it's you - I've got to make it, nobody else. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
'What an extraordinary woman. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
'Wise, funny, straight talking. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
'But what did I learn from Doris? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
'Well, diet wise, eat whatever you want seems to have been her motto. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
'But keep it simple. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
'Don't overindulge - common dietary sense, really.' | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
Although she did confess to having a little soft spot for some cheese, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
which goes with my "a little bit of what you fancy" theory. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
She did also make it very clear how important a strong network | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
of family and friends is, which was also something | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
I was expecting to hear. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
What really struck me about Doris was her absolute belief | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
that it's YOUR responsibility | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
to be true to yourself and your own life. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
I suppose it's what we call having a positive mental attitude. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
But, surely, you can't just will yourself to 100? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Although there must be an element of this in the next person | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
I'm going to meet, because he really is unique. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Not only is he the sole centenarian, male or female, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
in my hometown of Merthyr, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
but he's outlived the average male life expectancy | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
for the area by 30 years. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
And his name is... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Eric Antwerp Jones. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
So, Eric, how does it feel to be Merthyr's only centenarian? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
That's a pretty cool achievement. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Well, I don't know. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
I feel great, myself. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
What do you think are the secrets to your success? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Well, I don't think there's anything secret about it at all. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
I've just done what I wanted to do when I felt like doing it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
You know... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I've enjoyed every minute of it. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Do you think it's about being healthy? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Do think it's about having a tipple every now and again? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Is it always just purely enjoying life and being positive? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
I'll have a tipple now and again, yes. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
In terms of living a long life, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
do you think it's important to work hard? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
You've clearly worked very, very hard through your life. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Well, I always worked. Never been without a job. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
At 14 years of age, I started work, underground, down the pit. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
MINE WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
In 1928, just like tens of thousands of Valley boys of his generation, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
Eric left school one Friday and was working down the pit by Monday. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
His escape from that dirty, dank and dangerous world | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
came five years later, when he joined the Welsh Guards. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
1935, I think it is. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
-Gosh, very smart. -I'm over there somewhere. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
Serving with distinction throughout World War II, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
he rose to the rank of sergeant. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
On the domestic front, Eric married his sweetheart, Ena, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
in 1940 and they went on to have two children, Linda and Hywel. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
After the war, Eric became a Merthyr police officer, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
retiring in 1966 and taking up further working stints | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
as a hospital porter and a factory worker, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
before finally putting up his feet | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
after 54 years of solid work in 1982. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
Ena died just short of their golden wedding anniversary in 1990 | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
and now Eric lives with his son Hywel in Merthyr, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
the town he has never left, in spite of a number of opportunities. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
They say there's something about Merthyr, it brings people back | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-and people don't want to leave. -I didn't want to leave Merthyr. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
-A Merthyr boy through and through? -Oh, yes. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I've never been anywhere else. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I was born in Merthyr and my family run The Station Cafe. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. Tony and Frank Viazzani. -Tony? Good God! | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Tony Viazzani. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-Yeah, he was my dad's uncle. -Tony? Good God, aye. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
I knew Tony well. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
-And my grandmother was Louisa, his sister. -Yeah. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Cos that was a real sense of community, wasn't it, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
-the station caff? -Oh, yes. Oh, yes. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
When everything went quiet at night in Merthyr, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
everybody seemed to gather in Viazzani's! | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-It was a big family enterprise, wasn't it? -Oh, yes. Oh, yes. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
So I'm going to put you on the spot now. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
If you had to pick three things, I want three pieces of advice | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
for living a long life, what would they be? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Oh, dear. Well, one thing - | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
if you are interested in a particular sport, follow it. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
It had a great part, sport, in my life. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Family life, of course. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Look after your family. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
And the last one? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Be positive? Always enjoy life? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
I always did enjoy life. Always did. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-That's great. -Always did enjoy life. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
I know we're still at an early stage in this journey, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
but having chatted to both Doris and Eric, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
their lifestyles actually have a lot in common. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
They both work hard, live simply, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
have cherished families and enjoy wholesome hobbies, but with the | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
odd overindulgence here and there - isn't that how we all live anyway? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Well, actually, no, because life in 21st-century Wales, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
particularly working life, is no longer driven by the physical | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
labours of domestic service, manufacture or industry. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
For almost 70% of us, our nine-till-five existence | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
is an office-bound, deskbound sedimentary experience. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
We don't get the natural workout of a coalminer, a bobby on the beat | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
or a maid in service who spend their days on their feet. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
And then most of us come home from a mentally draining day at the | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
office, too tired to use that gym subscription we took out in January. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
And so we slump in front of the TVs with our microwave dinners. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Surely, this is no recipe for longevity. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
My final expert on living a long life lives about 20 miles away | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
and, apparently, I'm not to pick a fight with him. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
This is Ronald Prince. 100 years old and still fighting fit. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Ronald, from Aberdaron near Pontypool, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
works out in the gym every week. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Aside from always living an active life, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
he believes there is something else behind his longevity. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Age is partly due to genes. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
As the doctor once said to me, he said, "If you want to live long, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:13 | |
you've got to choose your parents very carefully." | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-Do you think it's all about genes or...? -It's a mixture, isn't it? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
It's partly genes and partly diet. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
Ron's parents both died in the 1960s | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
when the average life expectancy in the valleys | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
was 67 for men and 74 for women. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Ron's father died at 82, his mother, 85, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
by which time Ron himself had already led a full and productive life. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
Born in Abercarn in 1915, he attended Abercarn School | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
and then secondary, leaving at 16 | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
to work as an apprentice radio engineer in Newport. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
During World War II, he worked the land in Pembrokeshire where | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
he was also a caretaker at a hostel for Land Girls. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
Here, he met his future wife, Grace, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
who was working as a nurse in a children's TB hospital. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Married in 1947, they went on to have two daughters, Mary and Sue, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
and Ronald spent the remainder of his working life | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
with the Chaloner Bros, an electronics shop in Pontnewynydd. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
He retired in his 70s when the shop itself closed, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
not that Ron has ever truly sat back and put up his feet. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
In his extensive garden, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Ron continues to grow his own organic vegetables. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
Fresh food that forms the bulk of his meals. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
This isn't just about having some free food in your garden. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
This is some serious work that keeps you not just | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
healthy from the food, but busy, active, because... | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
I try the vegetables and they've certainly | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
got a much better taste than what you buy in the supermarket. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-Do you like them raw? -Yes, I'll have a go. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
There's nothing like the ones you grow yourself. The taste. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
What, in your opinion, do you think is the secret to living longer? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
You've said genes and diet but from what you've described to me, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
there's more going on here. Busy life, keeps you active? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Well, it's a mixture, isn't it, really? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
And I've been very fortunate with the family | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
and a very good wife. We were married about 67 years. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:31 | |
She died three years ago and I've got two very good daughters, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
so I've been very fortunate in my family. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
Family, busy industrious lives, genes and a good diet. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
These are the common themes in all three of my centenarians' lives. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
And there's something else - each of them has such a positive outlook. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
They enjoy and embrace their lives so I wonder, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
is the key to longevity as much about your psychological health | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
as it is about your physical wellbeing? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
And if that's the case, are some people just born happy and contented? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
Is there a happy gene? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Or is it about our upbringing, our surroundings, our families? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
In search of an answer, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
I'm heading to visit Professor Vanessa Burholt | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
at Swansea University's Centre For Innovative Ageing. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Professor Burholt is a world authority on gerontology, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
the scientific study of old age. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
-Hi, Vanessa. -Hi, Michela! | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
What, in your opinion, are the top factors when it comes to longevity? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Well, some colleagues in the US | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
have helped us out answering that question. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
This isn't from my own research, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
but they've done a meta-analysis of all of the published studies | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
that look at mortality so the rates at which people die, really. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
And top of their list is actually social support | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
so over 7 1/2 years, you're more likely to survive rather than die | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
if you have good social support, rather than poor social support. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
That has a bigger effect than quitting smoking on mortality. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
-Wow! -And a bigger effect than obesity so that's related to nutrition | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
and some of the diseases associated with mortality as well. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
So you're saying the most important thing for an individual | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
-is social support? -It could be. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
That's been identified in this study, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
but I think we need to paint quite a holistic picture | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
of all the parts that might fit together. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Why is it that family may have that influence on mortality? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
So it could be around the influence they have | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
on providing support to people who need support, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
providing a sense of identity, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
what sort of role you have in life | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
when your family and friends are around, that supports that. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
But it also might be to do with loneliness, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
whether or not experiencing loneliness | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
places certain stresses on the brain that cause you to die earlier. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
'So that's very interesting. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
'All three of my Welsh centenarians,' | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
they're all surrounded by a strong family support network, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
just as Professor Burholt has suggested. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
And if I think of my upbringing, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
family has always been at the heart of life in the Chiappa household. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
'I think the main reason I've got so interested in longevity | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
'and living to be 100 is that I'm a mum now with two beautiful daughters. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
'Fiamma is two and little Serafina is all of 12 weeks old. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
'I read recently that babies born after 2013, which both of mine were, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
'will have a one in three chance of living to 100. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
'That's an extraordinary statistic, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
'but it does come with a worry | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
'that I, as a parent, might somehow impede that chance.' | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
It does make you think, having children, though, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
about what can you do to give them a good chance in life, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
to give them a great start | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
and hopefully live on for many years into the future. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
It certainly is getting me thinking right now | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
about not just nutrition, but other factors. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
It does start from day dot, really, and is part of, I guess, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
being a mum that you want to give them the best possibilities | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
in life right from the minute they are born. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
'And yes, good wholesome food | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
'is certainly a part of that equation for me, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
'which is why I'm going to use some of Ronald's home-grown produce | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
'to make a broad bean pesto for tonight's supper. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
'But don't get me wrong, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
'I'm not one of those paranoid mums | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
'who won't feed their kids certain foods | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
'because they're worried about the sugar content. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
'Fiamma does have treats - home-made cakes, ice cream. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
'For me, it's about the balance. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
'Although it will be interesting to see how this pesto goes down!' | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Broad beans are certainly not one of my favourite vegetables | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
because they are quite bland and they are quite hard and tough, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
but in there, that is absolutely delicious. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
We have one brilliant pesto sauce, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
inspired by one of Wales's centenarians. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
'So it's broad bean pesto pasta for supper | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
'and there's three generations of Chiappas at the table tonight | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
'and I'm going to take this opportunity | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
'to grill Dad about our own family's longevity. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
-Grazie! -What was Nonno Pino's words of wisdom, Dad, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
for living a long life? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
I think my Dad's words of wisdom for living a long life | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
was to have an active life and a happy life | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and a very strong family life. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
The family was everything to Nonno | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
and he was a very, very active man up until the day he died. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
He was very, very active. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
He would be out in the workshop. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
-You say that now, that you have not the energy like your dad had. -No. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
My dad's family, they had nothing. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
They were really peasant farmers and they had nothing | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
and yet they were happy. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
Even though they were peasants living on very little, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
they lived quite a long life, considering. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
They lived VERY long lives. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
-How old was Nonna Maria? -She was gone at 93, I think, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
when she died, my dad's mum. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
My mum's mum died, she'd gone 90 and we all lived together... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
-Louise's mum... -Louise's mum, I think, was nearly 100. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
She did hit 100, didn't she? | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
My grandfather's sister, she would still, in her 80s and 90s, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
jump over her garden fence to go and get her eggs from the chickens. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
She'd get up at three in the morning when we'd come in from a night out | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
and be like, "Right, let me cook you a plate of pasta | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
"and I'll make you a plate of spaghetti." | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
She was the most active lady I've probably ever met, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
right until her last days. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Listen, if I had the recipe for a long life, I'd be a very rich man. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
I'll have a bit of wine, Dad. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
'Do you know what, my dad might never get to be a very rich man, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
'but he's just said something absolutely priceless to me. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
'And it's left me with the strong suspicion | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
'that I might have been asking the right questions, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
'but in the wrong place. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
'I think the real answers to longevity are not here in Wales - | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
'they lie in my own ancestral roots back home in Italy.' | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Welcome to Europe's greatest longevity hotspot! | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
A place where people live longer, healthier lives | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
than anywhere else across the whole continent. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Where the levels of cancer, diabetes and heart disease | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
are a fraction of what they are in Wales | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
and where there are more centenarians than anywhere else | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
in the northern hemisphere. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
This is the province of Ogliastra on the Italian island of Sardinia - | 0:28:49 | 0:28:55 | |
a place where there so many octogenarians, nonagenarians | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
and centenarians roaming the streets, that a mere tricenarian, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
someone in their 30s like me, is a bit of a novelty. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
So, what's going on? Well, that's why I'm here. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
So I'm going to go out and I want to meet some of those locals | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
to work out what's the recipe for living a long life | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
and hopefully then I can take those secrets back to Wales. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
With a population of around 59,000 people | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
scattered across its hillsides and small towns, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
the province of Ogliastra is the same size as the borough of Merthyr, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
but, unlike Merthyr, one in three of its inhabitants | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
currently live into their 90s. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
And while there's only one centenarian in the whole of Merthyr, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
there are 33 alone in Ogliastra's municipal town of Villagrande, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
which has an overall population of just 4,000 people. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
So, is it the sun? The fabled Mediterranean diet? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
Or is there a hidden fountain of youth somewhere on the island? | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
'Well, I am about to find out, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
'starting with a visit to Eugenio, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
'who, at just 100 years and 39 days, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
'is Villagrande's youngest centenarian.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
I just asked what is the secret of him living until he's 100 | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
and he said, "It's not to die before!" | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
When it comes to food, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
he says he doesn't eat evening meals any more, but... | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:30:40 | 0:30:48 | |
I said what are his favourite meals? | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
He said, "A good plate of pasta," and it's nice to see how Italians... | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
You know, pasta is always that first dish you might give to a baby, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
but even as you get older, it still remains a favourite. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
SHE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
'Signor Eugenio and I spent the next 20 minutes | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
'talking through his life story.' | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
'It was a story that had many resonances | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
'with the centenarians back in Wales.' | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
I just asked Signor Eugenio what is the secret to long life | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
and was being active, working hard part of it and he said | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
he was one of eight children, four girls and four boys, and his father | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
always said the girls had to go | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
until prima elementare to school, the first year. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
The boys had to go up to the fifth because it was really important | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
they learn to write, especially if they had to go off to war. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
He lasted until the first year. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
He did one day of his second, packed it in and basically | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
went and worked the land for his family, which was olive farming, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
wheat and wine and he said, "We certainly enjoyed the years | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
"of the wine harvest and had a good life," | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
so clearly he made a good choice to pack in the studies | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and come and work the land and that is, I think, evidence | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
that that active lifestyle, that natural way of keeping fit, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
has obviously served him well. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
But he did just tell me he is waiting | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
to go to bed down the road in the cemetery. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
But he's clearly lasting well | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
and he's enjoying living those stories and those memories. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
'What a beautiful man! | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
'Although I'm not sure that Eugenio's recipe of leaving school early | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
'and spending your days making wine is the message | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
'I should be taking back to Wales, tempting as that sounds. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
'I want to take back some hard, practical facts | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
'so I've arranged to meet Dr Gianni Pes, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
'a molecular biologist at the University of Sassari. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
'A world world-renowned expert, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
'he's been studying longevity on Sardinia for over 15 years. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
'In fact, it was Dr Pes and his colleague Michel Poulin | 0:32:58 | 0:33:04 | |
'who coined the famous term "blue zone", | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
'which denotes a region where the average life expectancy | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
'is considerably higher than elsewhere in the world. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
'And he's brought me to Villagrande's city hall to reveal to me | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
'the fruits of his blue zone studies.' | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Are there only four at the moment in the world? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
At the moment, only four, yes. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
Nicoya, Sardinia, Icaria and Okinawa. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
'While studies continue into the other three longevity hotspots, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
'it's the sheer wealth of historical records here on Sardinia that means | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
'Dr Pes and his colleagues have been able to draw some of the most | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
'comprehensive conclusions about what causes longevity.' | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
This is the civil archive that started in 1866, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
then we have the parish archives that date back to the 16th century | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
so there is the possibility | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
to reconstruct any family tree for four centuries. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
Absolutely unique in the world and this is very important | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
because it makes easier to do the genetic study as well. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
'Interestingly, Dr Pes's genetic studies | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
'have led him to a wholly unexpected conclusion.' | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
When I started 15 years ago, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
I thought that the genetic component was very important, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
but, progressively, I've changed my mind | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and now think that 80% of longevity | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
is explained by environmental | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-or lifestyle factors instead of genetics. -OK. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
'So if genes are only 20% of the longevity equation, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
'what, according to Dr Pes, are the other factors?' | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Physical activity, good nutrition, social support, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:48 | |
a purpose in life - that includes also spirituality, if you want - | 0:34:48 | 0:34:54 | |
-and the fifth one, OK, is just by chance. -OK. | 0:34:54 | 0:35:02 | |
Chance, eh? The roulette of life. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Luckily for me and Villagrande, there are no buses to be run over by. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Although wandering the streets, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
I can see casual evidence of what Gianni has told me. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
On the healthy nutrition front, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
it's really interesting to know there are no big supermarkets | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
in the town, but everyone seems to have a patch of ground | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
where they grow their fruit and veg | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
or raise a couple of chickens or pigs. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
There are no takeaways, no processed foods. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Everything appears to be fresh and locally produced. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
Life couldn't be any different back home in Wales, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
where we've got kebab shops, burger bars | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
and processed supermarket ready meals available on every corner. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
And where basic kitchen skills, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
no longer part of our schools' core curriculum, are so lacking | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
that many of us wouldn't know how to cook a spinach leaf, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
let alone grow one. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
Dr Pes's other key ingredients | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
were also readily observed on the streets of Villagrande. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Physical activity - cut into the hillside, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
these higgledy-piggledy streets | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
provide a daily workout for the calves and cardiovasculars. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
There's plenty of social support and interaction | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
and what I've noticed is how the young and the old mix freely. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:22 | |
Spirituality? Well, that's a given - we're in Italy! | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
But the one thing Gianni said that really struck me was about having | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
a purpose in life - something to get you out of bed every morning. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
Apparently, the people of Ogliastra province never really retire. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
They might slow down, but otherwise, they just keep on going, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
getting up every morning to do whatever it is they've got to do. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
This is particularly true of the men | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and what's unique about Sardinia as a blue zone is that, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
unlike the other three longevity hotspots, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
there are as many male centenarians here as there are female. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
So, the work-life balance? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Maybe it's really an unhealthy myth | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
and actually the secret is to keep on working until you drop, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
which allegedly is what the peasant farmers of Ogliastra do. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
So we're heading out of Villagrande | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
to see the evidence of Gianni's research | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
and how working in the outdoors and having a very active lifestyle | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
is really one of the strong contributing factors to longevity. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
In the hills above Villagrande on 26 acres of scrubland, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
81-year-old Francesco Messina rears over 300 head | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
of dairy ewes, goats, cows and pigs. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:44 | |
Rising with the sun, he works seven days a week, 365 days a year, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
as have generations of Messina menfolk before him. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
He lives here on this land. He sleeps here. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
He says sometimes he sleeps here in the open at this time of year, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
it's so warm, there's nothing better than the fresh air. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
He's 81 now, but basically his dad, his grandad, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
his great-grandad all were farmers and shepherds. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
His grandad lived till he was 86 and his father lived till he was 89, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
all doing this life as shepherds and as farmers, working the land. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
SHE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
They haven't modernised any of the machinery. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
They milk all the sheep, the goats, everything by hand. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
'This is Francesco's nephew Gianluca. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
'He's only 54 so he's still a kid, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
'but he's just milked all 217 of the ewes by hand, as he does every day.' | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:38:48 | 0:38:55 | |
So this was all the milk from all these sheep tonight | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
and this is going to go to make some cheese. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
So for all those sheep, it takes about an hour to milk them. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
'And while work's undoubtedly hard, the living is no easier either.' | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
So, up until 20, 30 years ago, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
he spent his life in similar huts like this. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
He said it's a hard life, but equally it is one he's been brought up on, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
one that he's used to so why would he have any other way? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
THEY SPEAK IN ITALIAN | 0:39:29 | 0:39:37 | |
I said if life is hard, why hasn't he gone to live in the town? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
And he said, "Well, it's my job and, more than anything, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
"I love my job and I love working with the animals, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
"from cows, sheep, pigs. I'm here in nature." | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
In his opinion, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
most of the centenarians were farmers or shepherds | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and they lived a life like this in the land | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
so this would have been where they lived. They'd sleep on hard floors. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
A very simple life, they'd cook on the fire, work the land in the day | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and stay in here at night. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
It's been really lovely coming up here, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
to finally see a real shepherd from this area. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
I'm not sure if it's really for me. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
I don't know if I could do what he is doing, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
live out here literally on the land. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
But it definitely has made me think about how important it is | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
to live an active lifestyle. A LIFESTYLE. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Not just going to the gym and doing exercise every day, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
but making it part of your life. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
And also, slowing down your pace of life. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Not worrying about too many things, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
the speed and the pace of life that we live today. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Really taking a step back and thinking, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
you know, "Do we really need to do all that we do?" | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
And will that affect your lifespan in future? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
During the past 24 hours, I've got so much more clarity | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
about the varied ingredients it takes to live to be 100. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
But I left Francesco's smallholding with one nagging thought. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
His way of life died out in the Welsh valleys | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
when the first mineshaft was sunk. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
And it's under threat in Sardinia, too, as increasingly, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
people leave the tough life in the hills | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
for the easier life of the towns. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
But does this mean abandoning the life-prolonging traditions | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
and values of the countryside? | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Or is there a healthy compromise? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
The following morning, I got up early to spend my final day in Sardinia | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
with a family who firmly believe you can have it all. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
Ciao! Buongiorno! | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
ALL GREET EACH OTHER | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Meet Mariangela and Marco Mareo, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
a husband-and-wife team who run what is best described | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
as a family cooperative. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Marco and Mariangela live in Villagrande, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
sharing a house with their two teenage children, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Gabriele, 17 and Lucia, 21. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
And they share their lives with their parents. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Marco's dad, who's 89 and Mariangela's dad, who's 76, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
Marco's mum, 80, and Mariangela's mum who's 73. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
As a unit, the extended Mareo family grow, rear, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
make, cook and bake everything they eat. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
It's a very typical family set-up here in the Ogliastra Valley. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
But this good life is also a tough life, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
requiring hard work throughout long days and weekends. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Both Marco and Mariangela have jobs. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Marco's a forestry worker | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
and Mariangela runs a small B&B at the family home. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
So, their day begins around 7am milking the goats. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:56 | |
HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
He said this is something they have learned from their parents, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
their grandparents and their great-grandparents. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
I said, how old was he when he learnt to milk? | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
And he said about six, seven years of age. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
SHE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
HE REPLIES IN ITALIAN | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
I asked him, you know, is this really important for him | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
to do and pass down to his children? He said, "Absolutely. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
"Otherwise, it's going to get lost." | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
The memory he has, not just from his parents, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
but from his grandparents | 0:43:36 | 0:43:37 | |
was they always used to teach him to respect nature. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
And if you respect nature, it will respond, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
and it will keep you healthy and well into the future. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
While the goats hop down the hill | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
to spend the day grazing by the river bank, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
we head back to the house to turn the milk into some cheese. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
The whole process they're doing today | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
to make this cheese is completely natural. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
They are not using any additives, preservatives. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
The thickening agent to make the milk the cheese is this... | 0:44:07 | 0:44:13 | |
the goat's stomach. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:14 | |
Their goats keep the family in milk, yoghurt and cheese | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
the whole year round. They never need to pop to the supermarket | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
because they never run out. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
What's more, goat's milk has a higher nutritional value than cow's milk, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
and studies suggest the milk helps lower the risk | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
of cardiovascular disease and colon cancer. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
Not that the family need to be told all of this - | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
for them, it's a way of life that young Gabriele | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
is set to continue into the next generation. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
For me, there's nothing better than seeing a young family | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
still using old methods to create some amazing food from the land. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
You know, this has been home-made, and look... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
SHE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
17 years of age and he knows how to kill a goat, feed a goat, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
milk a goat, and create the most delicious cheese fresh from the land. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
Brilliant stuff. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
'The one thing I am quickly realising is that there is no fast food here. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
'The whole day revolves around preparing meals for the table.' | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
The Mareos are not farmers, they're just ordinary, working people | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
with a plot of land on which they raise all of the food they consume. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
They don't go to the supermarket or call in a takeaway, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
they just beaver away as a family to create fresh, wholesome food | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
that also keeps them exceptionally active. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Talk about that for a spinach leaf! | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
This is serious work. You know, you've got to work the land, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
you've got to sow the seeds, help them grow, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
you've got to stop the snails eating them, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:49 | |
you've got to collect them, clean them, cook them. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
Serious work for a plot this size. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
You don't do it on your own, it's a whole family thing. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
And Mariangela said, when they collect the potatoes | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
it's almost like a party. "We all come here, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
"we've each have got our jobs, and it's a real social occasion." | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
So, you can really see, I guess, how strong those social networks are. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
Here we've got the beans. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
I've heard, and a lot of people have talked about the importance of beans | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
for contributing to longevity | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
and beans were often a substitute to meat for the poor families. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
Because they've got a lot of protein in, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
and for those families that didn't have meat, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
or maybe at certain times of the year, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
the animals weren't ready to eat, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
it provided them with those important nutrients to keep them going | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
for the hard and tough months. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
SHE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
'There's one more place I want to visit | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
'before I taste the family's produce. That's their cantina. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
'An Italian larder that's like an Aladdin's cave for foodies. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
'Cheeses, wines, pulses, olives, smoked meats and sausages, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
'all of it produced and preserved by the family.' | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
SHE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
..McDonald's, fast food. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
So, I said, obviously, in our world of today, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
processed foods are all around us, and with added preservatives, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
what's their feelings on that? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
And they were like, all we use when curing the meat is salt and pepper. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
They use no preservatives, nothing, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
it's all pure stuff. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
SHE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
I'm going to their house, I want to eat some of this stuff. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
THEY SPEAK ITALIAN | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
The family have offered to rustle up a typical Sardinian supper for me. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
So, while Marco gets on with the man's work of roasting a goat haunch, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
I'm going to join the rest of the family in the kitchen. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
I am so excited about today, because just like in my family, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
where you've got everyone in the family roped in to do different jobs, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:01 | |
we're here with Mariangela, and she's got her mum, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
her daughter, her son's behind, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
and this is what is very, very typical. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
Particularly in this family. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
THEY SPEAK ITALIAN | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
Although, what I wasn't expecting | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
was the dish we were about to prepare. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
The local speciality, minestrone soup | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
that not only takes six hours to make | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
but is heavy on the carbs and has a high fat content. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
No olive-oil-rich Mediterranean diets here! | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
So, basically, it is a heavy dish, you've got beans, you got potatoes, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
you've got pasta in it, and the cheese and all these flavours. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
But Mariangela said that traditionally, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
this was often fed to the farmers, the men that were away from home | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
feeding all these animals up in the hills and, often, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
they would come back after a week, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
and this was a real dish that would fill their bellies | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
and make them feel like it's great to be home. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
They needed it, as well, because they'd been away for that time. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
CONVERSATION IN ITALIAN | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
I asked, "Is this a typical job that the man does?" | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
He said, "Absolutely." | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
And it has been passed down from generations to generations. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
The women often do the first course, the pastas, the risottos. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
And it's the men that look after the meat. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
He said, for him it's very important to pass this down. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
His son knows how to kill, how to prepare the meat, and to cook it. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
So, you can see he's very proud of that. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
'Come meal-time, what I took for a cosy, family get-together | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
'seems to be transforming into a village festa.' | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
I don't know what is going on, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
but I believe a family of five, six people | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
has suddenly multiplied into what looks like 25. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:48 | |
It doesn't look like this is going to be a small thing. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
It's going to be pretty much a massive feast with half the village! | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
But, hey, I suppose that's Italian families for you. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
LIVELY CHATTER IN ITALIAN | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
HE TOASTS IN ITALIAN | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
LAUGHTER AND CHATTER | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
So, this is clearly, in my opinion, what Italians are all about. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
And particularly, here in Villagrande. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
It starts from working the land, cultivating your own produce | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
and then cooking and eating altogether. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
It doesn't really get much better than this. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
Unadulterated home-made produce consumed at a communal table | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
by family and friends while being serenaded by the young folk | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
singing traditional old folk songs. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Simple lives, simple food and simple rituals. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Passed down and on through generation after generation. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
I've no doubt that every single ingredient of living to be 100 | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
is here in this room right now. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
If only I could bottle it up and bring it back home. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
And although I leave Sardinia the following morning | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
without the elixir of life clasped in my hand, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
I do believe I've got some valuable long-life lessons | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
to take back to Wales which I can certainly share | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
with the Tantem family. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:14 | |
So, I'm back where I started on this journey for living a long life, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
here in Wales. I'm going to go and see the Tantems. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
I've learnt a lot and I got a nice big of goodies | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
that I'm going to take in to them. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
And where better to share that experience | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
than round the dinner table enjoying a Sardinian-inspired supper. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
-Hello! -Hello! -Hello. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
Oh, hello, how are you doing? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
-Good, thank you. -I've got some goodies. -What have we got? -Hello. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
So, if you guys are committed to living a healthier life, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
I reckon, we can have a chat about some things | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
that we can make a change already. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
For me, one of the most important things | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
that I saw in Sardinia was that there was no processed food. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
Nowhere to be seen. Quite simple, not to eat anything processed. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Do you think you could do that? | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
Yes. We've done it before. We can do it again. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
There's no reason why we can't do it again. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
It's not easy, you know, you've got to be organised. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
You've got to make sure you've got space, time, to prepare things. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
But you said you love freezer meals, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
even though they're bought from the shop. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
We can do that, we can create. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
You love doing shepherd's pie, fish pie. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
They are brilliant freezer meals. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
It's just a matter of making them in bulk, putting them into portions | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
and then you can create your own freezer meals, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
but they're home-produced. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
I think, if you could cut out processed food and fizzy drinks... | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
How does that sound? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
Fizzy drinks out of your diet. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
-I don't drink any fizzy drinks(!) -Don't you? -No... | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
ALL LAUGH | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
I am telling you, you would see a difference. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
And I can show you some really simple recipes that you can prepare | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
in five minutes from the stuff that you already buy | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
-that will make your lives simple. -Righty-ho. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
Right, we're going to do a super-quick and simple pasta sauce, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
Lee, you're going to do the chopping. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
Finely chop an onion. Splash of olive oil in a pan. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
Then we're going to pop in that onion. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
At this stage, you can put whatever veg you want. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
If you fancied any greens, you could put a bit of broccoli in. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
If you like your freezer, frozen peas, frozen chopped veg, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:29 | |
you could now toss in a handful and mix that in. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
What I'm going to do, I'm going to speed peel | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
some lovely ribbons of carrot, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
you don't need too much, just a little bit of veg. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
Peel lovely bits of courgette in. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
Give that a stir, all together. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
And then, once that has sweated down, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
we are going to add our tin of chopped tomatoes. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
-Right then, into this we're going to put a stock cube. -Smells lovely! | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
A little spoon of cream cheese, | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
that will just give it a lovely bit of creaminess. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
For me, being Italian, I don't think you can have pasta sauce | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
without Parmesan. And, again, this means you use less salt, as well, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
it is just more natural. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:10 | |
It is expensive, but if you only use a little amount each time, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
you know, that will last you a couple of months. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
That's done. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:19 | |
You could easily double, if not triple, that quantity. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
And then, that freezes brilliantly, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
so you could freeze this in little individual containers again, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
And there again, you've got your freezer meals that are fresh. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
And basically, when you want to cook it, you just pull it out, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
whack it in the microwave to defrost it and throw it over pasta. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
Did you find out any other secrets to family life in Sardinia? | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
Yeah, I mean, I think, for me, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
the things I brought away from Sardinia was the sense of family. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
So, big communities where the family is really important. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
BABY FUSSES Yes, you agree, don't you? Yes! | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
And, basically, it's the idea that it's not just eating good food, | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
it's the WHOLE process. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
They sit together, they cook together, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
they socialise together and there's this kind of family network. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
So, it's not just the cooking. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
It's the sitting down together, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
enjoying it together around a dinner table. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
That's one thing we have always done. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:14 | |
-We always sit at the table to eat. -It's important. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
We always make sure that that is something we do every evening. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
It doesn't matter if we end up having a late dinner, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
it is at the table. Always together, always at the table. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
-Smells lovely. -I hope you like it. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Absolutely gorgeous. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
It's really nice. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
So, how was the pace of life in Sardinia? | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
Was it as busy and as chaotic as ours? | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
No, definitely not. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:42 | |
They spend all day cooking one dish that they might eat | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
at the end of the day and it's a very slow pace of life, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
but, I just think, we've got to be realistic. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
We live in Wales. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
We don't live in sun-drenched hills | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
with vegetable patches the size of a football pitch, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
we do live in communities like we do, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
but I do think, you know, there are factors that we could all do - | 0:56:02 | 0:56:07 | |
even myself included - to improve our quality of life. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
Trying to walk every day, even if it is only ten minutes to work, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
or even it's on the weekend, you take the kids | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
and it's raining, but you put some coats on. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
It shouldn't really make any excuses, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
cos we have got beautiful surroundings that we live in. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
We might actually say, you know what, we just feel so much better, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
and I do believe that I was brought up | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
in an Italian household in the Welsh Valleys, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
but the one thing my dad was always adamant about | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
it that to be cooked fresh, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
and it had to be all of us around the table. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
They certainly didn't say, don't drink a glass of wine | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
in Sardinia, in fact, they all drank wine. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
So, maybe, it's a walk to the pub with your family | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
for a glass of wine and then to come home to a home-cooked meal. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
There's nothing wrong with that. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
Salute! | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
So, what have I learned from my search | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
of finding the secrets of living until you're 100. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
When I first started on this journey, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
I had, at the back of my mind, that one of the factors might be money. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
That somehow, wealth could buy you your help. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
But actually, having visited the Welsh centenarians | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
and the hill farmers of Sardinia, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
they actually proved that quite the opposite was true. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
A hard life of honest graft, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
especially if it's in the outdoors, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
can actually help you live to 100. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
And certainly, if you have got a good diet, | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
and a strong family unit and a purpose in life. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
But are all these things possible in a 21st-century Wales? | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
Well, actually, they are. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
But we have got to work harder to make them work | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
because our lifestyle is against us. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
But given all of that, the tools are there for us | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
to live a long and healthy life. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
It's just a matter of us utilising them. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
And for that, there is no excuse. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
ALL SING: Happy Birthday | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
I keep thinking back to something Doris told me on her 105th birthday. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
Life is what you make it. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
It's you who are the important person all the time, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
and it's you that's got to make it, nobody else. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
That it's you that's got to make it, nobody else. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 |