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A while back I gave up sugar and I cut down on carbohydrates | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and I've stayed off them both, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
but if you asked me to give up alcohol for the rest of my life, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
well, I'm not sure I could do that. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
And I'm not sure what that says about me and my relationship with alcohol. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
'I've been in a relationship with alcohol for over 30 years. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
'In my youth we spent rather a lot of time together. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
'But now it's a more casual thing.' | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
I've seen the good, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
the bad and the ugly side of booze. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
'But actually I know next to nothing about my drug of choice.' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
It's the British drug. We've had it for a long, long time. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
'It's time to set the record straight once and for all.' | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
You get into the habit of a glass of wine every night and it's just corrosive. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
'I'm going to examine my relationship with alcohol and put | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
'myself on the line to find out exactly what it's doing to my body. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
'I'm sitting here with the moment of truth, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
'wondering if my liver is shot.' | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
I look at the destructive power of drink... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Acetaldehyde's a carcinogen. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
..and see how science is trying to measure and manage our love for the hard stuff. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
A peak in activation, that was sort of immediately translated into the size of the image. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
'The best place to start is at my local pub. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
'This is our culture, our tradition. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
'We drink, get merry, chat and laugh, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
'and some of us take pride in the number of pints we sink, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
'but this is not what we should be counting.' | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
I don't suppose you know how many units are in there? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Yeah, it's about two units in there. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
And according to government guidelines, the maximum, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
-or the recommended unit for a man... -Is 14 units a week. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
-Which is two a day. -Yes, it's a pint a day. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
-So that's my recommended daily allowance of units for today. -Yes. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
-One pint. -Mm. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
'Well, that's me thoroughly bamboozled.' | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
I like to think I drink within moderation. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
So four days a week I won't drink any alcohol whatsoever. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
On three days a week I might have a couple of glasses of wine one night, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
maybe the next night a couple of gin and tonics. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
The next night maybe a couple of beers. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
So I think I drink well within the recommended limits. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
That's safe, isn't it? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
'The NHS website shows us how to work out the units. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
'Multiply the amount of alcohol in millilitres by its strength - | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
'that is the percentage number listed on the bottle or the can - | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
'and then divide that by 1,000. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
'I've lined up my usual weekly drinks and it's time to crunch the numbers.' | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
So, 14 units... | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
..is... | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
This is ridiculous, isn't it? It's just absolutely baffling. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Oh, for God's sake, why doesn't it just say how many units on it? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Wouldn't that be so much easier? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
I'm buggered if I can do this. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
'Well, after a lot of head-scratching.' | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
So, in total... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
..we are talking about being just on or just over | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
my weekly recommended alcohol consumption. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
So it looks like I'm drinking between 14 to 18 units most weeks. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
That's more than I expected. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Guidelines on alcohol units were adopted in the UK in 1987, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
but we've been wetting our whistles for at least 4,000 years | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and concerns over how much we consume are nothing new. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
Back in the 1830s, the idea that we shouldn't overdo it gained ground in | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
Wales with the Temperance Movement | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
and at the end of the 19th century the Sunday Closing Act | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
came into place and for over 100 years caused controversy. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
But the very same initiative that was supposed to curb our drinking | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
may have given rise to another habit, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
as Welsh historian David Howell explains. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
What you start to see is a shift away from | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
drinking in public settings | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
to perhaps a more private practice of drinking. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
I'm not going to say that Temperance is the reason for that, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
but it's certainly an influential factor in why people stop drinking | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
in those more communal social environments. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
So you ban drinking, or you try to cut down on drinking in public places, places like pubs. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
You restrict the hours and what happens? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
People go and drink at home? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
I think you can make that association. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
The drinking level still seems to be consistent, if not increasing, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
as we go through the 19th century. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
The truth is that behind curtains and closed doors | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
we have normalised the consumption of alcohol and we're not always honest about how much we drink. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
How many times have you said you've had a glass of wine at night, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
knowing that it's really half a bottle or more? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Health surveys indicate that 45% of us are overdoing it, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
but according to the sales data, it's more like 75%. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
'That means three quarters of us are regularly drinking to excess.' | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
I guess like everybody, I drink to escape. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
To escape the cares and the worries of the day | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
and just go to a different place to calm down, to chill out. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:36 | |
'The consumption of wine in particular has skyrocketed | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
'in the past few years, overtaking beer as the country's favourite drink.' | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
Perhaps it's because we think that drinking wine is sophisticated, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
or that perhaps it's good for our health, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
and there is some evidence to suggest a little red wine | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
is good for your heart, but only perhaps one or two units. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
And even then only if you're a man over the age of 40 or a postmenopausal woman. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
Well, the menopause isn't going to hit me any time soon, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
but I am over 40, so for me this should be good news. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
However, the goodness in red wine comes from a natural compound called | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
polyphenols and you can get the same amount from two cups of tea as you | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
can by drinking a glass of red. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
I can drink a fair amount of alcohol and it doesn't really seem to have | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
that much of an effect on me, or at least that's what I think. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
I'm heading to central London this evening to take part in a rather unusual experiment. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the drinking. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
'Neuroscientists Fred Dick and Iroise Dumontheil | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
'from Birkbeck University have devised an unprecedented experiment for me. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
'It comes in three stages. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
'First, a sober MRI scan while I do a cognitive test. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
'Then the easy part. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
'Half an hour drinking at the university bar.' | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
-Can I have the same again, please? -Yeah. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
'Because time is short, I'm hitting the hard stuff straightaway. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
'I take it back. Downing drink... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
'..after drink... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
'after drink... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
'..is actually quite hard. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
'Remember - this is for a scientific experiment. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
'Don't try this at home. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
'Or in a bar.' | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I've just had four double scotches. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
I guess that's about eight units or thereabouts. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
And I feel very warm all of a sudden and not in the least bit inclined | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
to climb back into a brain scanner. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
'But I've come this far, so I can't chicken out now.' | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
-How you feeling? -Well, alarmingly, remarkably normal. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
It's terrible, isn't it? 'This the real challenge. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
'Stage three of this experiment sees me back in the MRI, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
'putting my grey matter to work under the influence. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
'The scientists want to look at how alcohol immediately affects my | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
'behaviour and brain activity.' | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
We know that the brain is really very affected | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
by the presence of alcohol itself, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
so multiple neurotransmitter systems like dopamine, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
serotonin and so on are affected by alcohol. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
So there are the lot of uncertainties, but nonetheless, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
we'll give it a crack and see how Jamie's brain changes over time. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:44 | |
So I repeat the task I did earlier. It's called a Stroop test. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Basically I need to count how many numbers appear on the screen whilst ignoring the value. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
This is as hard as it sounds. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
This kind of creates a conflict, what we call it. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
You want to answer one, you want to answer four and you have to make the decision between the two. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
This type of task where you have to kind of control your behaviour, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
it's a bit related to impulsivity | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
because you have to stop your automatic response | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
and actually think a bit about it. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
'And then it's time to find out if I really am alcohol proof. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
'But they keep me in suspense while they analyse the data.' | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
What's the orange stuff? Why am I seeing my brain turn orange? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
So, the grey and white is just the kind of anatomy of the brain. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
So what your brain looks like, just a picture. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
The orange is showing the difference in blood flow. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
So if MRI measures how much and where the blood goes | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
and that reflects which neurons are working hard. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
This prefrontal cortex region involving decision-making | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
has more blood going there. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
It's working harder to get you to solve those difficult trials | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
than it did before you drunk alcohol. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
The proportion is kind of three times harder. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
My brain is working three times harder when I'm drunk | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
to do the same task? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
To do the hard bit versus the easy bit. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Kind of really the difference between the two, you know? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
So not overall, but to cope with the difficult trials, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
it's kind of working three times as hard | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
to solve those difficult problems. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
So you were a good drunk on the outside, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
but when you're actually able to look inside of your head, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
we can see that alcohol is really having a really profound affect | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
on the way that you actually accompanying a very basic task | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-that you have to do in everyday life. -All right. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
So this is my brain under a lot of strain from one evening of bingeing. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
But over the long term this kind of drinking can lead to something a lot | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
worse - a little-known but devastating condition called ARBD, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
or alcohol-related brain damage. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
With a clear head, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
I meet NHS addiction psychiatrist Dr Julia Lewis. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
The main symptom that people will recognise, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
and this is the bit generally at which people start presenting, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
is when the short-term memory is affected. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
That damage is the sort of damage where people can't remember what you said to them. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Can't remember that they've got an appointment tomorrow, those sorts of things. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
But what we suspect is that at a much earlier stage | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
you get damage to the front part of the brain. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Something called the prefrontal cortex, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and this is the part of the brain that controls the rest of the brain. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
If that part of the brain is damaged, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
you can't make sensible decisions. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
You can't integrate the information that you need | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
to make a reasonable choice. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
But also, you can't control your impulses, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
you can't motivate yourself | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
and you can't switch well from one task to another. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
But this isn't something that someone that just drinks moderately | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
needs to worry about, is it? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
You need to have been drinking over 35 units a week for a man | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
or over 28 units a week for a woman for at least five years | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
to be at risk from this alcohol-related brain damage. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
However, there's some suggestion that people at lower, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
often binge drinking rather than dependant drinking levels | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
seem to be presenting with some form of neurological damage. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
So it's highly likely that at levels much lower than that, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
alcohol is still having an impact on the brain. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
And that is bad news for Wales. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
People who don't even consider themselves to be heavy drinkers, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
like me, are vulnerable. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
In fact, it's estimated that one in 200 adults in the UK are affected by | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
alcohol-related brain damage, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
even though we don't tend to hear about it. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Like a lot of us, I often have a glass of wine or two, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
sometimes three in an evening. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
I've never thought this could be a problem, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
but what I've heard has got me pretty worried. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
One of the main industry trade associations, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
the WSTA, who represent wine and spirit businesses in the UK, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
say that moderate and responsible drinking is compatible with a healthy lifestyle. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
'I meet Professor of Public Health and expert on alcohol harm | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
'Simon Moore to hopefully put my mind at ease.' | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
There is such a thing as moderate drinking and that's OK, isn't it? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
-It depends what you call moderate. -Well, the government guidelines. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Sticking to the government guidelines. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
That I would say is at the upper end of what you should be drinking. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
You're going to be starting to see effects, I think, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
from as little as seven units a week in terms of your health. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Is there a safe limit for drinking? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
On balance, no, there isn't. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
People should avoid alcohol altogether? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-Yes. -No alcohol, that's the safe limit? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
I would argue that, yes. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
It doesn't take very much alcohol to start to see an effect on the human body. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
That's pretty devastating, isn't it? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
It's a perfect end to a lovely interview, but it's devastating! | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
'I didn't really want to hear that. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
'So why do we keep doing it? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
'Perhaps it's the instant gratification.' | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Alcohol travels through our bloodstream | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
and within 90 seconds it hits the brain, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
increasing dopamine and endorphin levels to give us a high | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
that produces pleasure and alleviates stress. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
But if we drink too much of it, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
our bodies will do their best to reject it and that's because, ultimately, it's a poison. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
Maybe it's time to go back to basics. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
At Cardiff Metropolitan University, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Dr Jo Welton gives me a biochemistry lesson. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
What are we actually drinking? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
What are we pouring down our throats? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Anything - beer, wine, spirits - | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
contains a specific alcohol called ethanol, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and that is made up of two carbons, an oxygen and five hydrogens. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:48 | |
So that's the chemical structure? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
This is the chemical structure of ethanol. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
I remember this from school now. How dangerous is this? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
-How toxic is this? -Erm, well, the breakdown of ethanol into the next part in the chain, | 0:14:55 | 0:15:02 | |
in your liver, is to acetaldehyde. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
The hazard symbols include it as flammable, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
and this one here that kind of looks like heartburn | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
means it's a serious health hazard, so acetaldehyde's a carcinogen. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
And this also adds to it, and it's also a symbol for a health hazard. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
So if I have a couple of glasses of wine, beers, spirits, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
that ends up inside my liver, ultimately? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-Yes, yes. -So we're effectively pouring poisons down our throat? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
Yeah. It's not particularly good for us. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
-But if you saw that in the... -Yeah, you wouldn't want to drink this. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
-You wouldn't want to drink that, would you? -No. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Once ingested, alcohol is mostly processed by the liver, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
the organ responsible for filtering toxins from the blood. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
'Using liquidised lamb's liver, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
'Dr Welton sets up an experiment to show me how a healthy and damaged | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
'liver react when exposed to a toxin that our bodies produce | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
'and process every day - hydrogen peroxide.' | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
So I have to try and do this at the same time, so... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-Wow. -So, as you can see, in the healthy, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
it's reacted much more rapidly compared to with the damaged liver. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
You're still getting the enzyme reaction, but it's much slower, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
so your body isn't able to process it as quickly as it normally would. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
So this shows that a damaged liver doesn't function properly, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
and if you regularly drink alcohol, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
toxins will build up until the liver stops working altogether. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I've never thought about my liver. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
I mean, I'm aware that, you know, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
if you drink there are all those terrible diseases - | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
cirrhosis of the liver and... | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
..all kinds of liver diseases that you're... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
you're gambling with, so I've never had mine tested, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
and I've no idea what shape it's in. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
'I've been consuming alcohol on a regular basis | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
'for over three decades. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
'That's an awful lot of toxins passing through my liver. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
'I'm meeting up with liver expert Dr Andrew Yeoman in Pontypool | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
'for an unnerving checkup.' | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
-The moment of truth. -Indeed. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
'Now, in case you're wondering, I'm not pregnant. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
'I'm here for a FibroScan liver test which measures if a liver | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
'is soft and healthy, or stiff and damaged.' | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
So this is almost like an ultrasound you'd have with a pregnant woman? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Yeah, it uses ultrasound, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
but it also uses a vibration wave through the liver. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
So you're basically measuring resistance through my liver? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
That's right. This is giving us the reading in kiloPascals, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
or the liver stiffness measurement that we want. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
-So what would be normal? -Normal is less than seven. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-Yeah. -Anything between seven and ten can indicate scarring of the liver. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Anything above 11 starts to worry us that somebody might have a lot of | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
scarring or even cirrhosis of the liver. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
This is not a very pleasant experience, if I'm honest with you. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
I mean, I am sitting here at the moment of truth, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
wondering if my liver is shot, while being filmed. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
So you can sit up now, if you want to get comfortable. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
I have to say I'm very relieved that's over. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
So the long and short of it is what? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
The long and the short of it is actually you've got a nice, normal, soft, healthy liver. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
So there's no evidence of any scar tissue in there based on those readings. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Which, I have to say, I'm very relieved about. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
I didn't enjoy any of that, cos I didn't know what you were going to find. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
No, absolutely. And many of our patients find the same when they come into clinic as well. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Why aren't we understanding this problem with alcohol? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
I think people think it won't happen to them, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
and I think it comes back to the fact that the drink heavily, they don't get symptoms, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and it's only when it's often too late that people realise there's been a problem. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
And I think if there's one message you'd want to get across to the general population, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
it's that you don't have to be an alcoholic to get alcohol-related liver disease. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Increasingly, we're seeing people with alcohol-related liver disease | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and dying from these things who are professional people, holding down jobs, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
but are coming home from work drinking a bottle and a half or two bottles of wine a night. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
They're not necessarily falling over drunk, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
they're not creating social disorder, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
and they don't see it as being a problem. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
But it is creating a problem for them. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
'Fortunately, my liver has a clean bill of health, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
'but I'm not about to celebrate with a drink.' | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
I know alcohol can be fun. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
There's a drink out there for every mood. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
There's a drink out there for every taste, and every occasion. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Who doesn't enjoy a party more if booze is available? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
It can loosen us up, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
and help us make new friends. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Even though the average alcohol consumption in the UK has fallen in recent years, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
it seems too many of us are still overdoing it. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Perhaps it's because cut-price booze seems to be everywhere in our towns | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
and cities. But is there a hidden cost to all of this cheap alcohol? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
I asked Mark Bellis, the director of Public Health Wales. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
Can we quantify the real cost of alcohol abuse to Wales? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
Well, we can use figures for the UK, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
and for that we talk about a cost around crime, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
losses in employment and health, of about £21 billion per year, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:21 | |
and that's about £3.5 billion of that cost falls on the NHS, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
about £11 billion falls on criminal justice, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and the rest falls on losses because people don't go to work, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
or they're off on long-term sick. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
So we can talk about it in terms of pounds, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
but we can also talk about it in terms of, for instance, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
in Wales more than 50,000 admissions to hospital every year | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
for alcohol-related problems. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
The real cost of alcohol is not reflected in what we're currently charging for it. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
What people, when they see cheap alcohol, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
they think only of what they're paying for that bottle of wine | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
or that can of beer, but they are also paying perhaps, as a family, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
up to £1,000 a year more to deal with the consequences of alcohol being sold too cheaply. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:04 | |
One way or another, even if you're not the drinker, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
you're going to be paying for a lot of cheap, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
highly promoted alcohol in Wales. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
'A movement for the adoption of minimum pricing per unit of alcohol | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
'is gaining momentum, but there's still stiff opposition. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
'Expert in alcohol-related violence and government adviser | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
'Professor Jonathan Shepherd is a keen supporter of those proposals.' | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
The forces of opposition against you, though, are considerable - | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
the alcohol lobby, and the fact that we all love a drink, don't we? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I think that the alcohol industry in general has been most unhelpful | 0:21:36 | 0:21:43 | |
with regard to their responsibility. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
I think that the influence and access that the alcohol lobby had | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
on the Department of Health to develop health policy was just not helpful. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
It's just plain wrong, in my view. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Not to say that there aren't a lot of responsible producers out there, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
but at the end of the day it's about the profits and profitability | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
of the trade and the industry. And the cost of the harm to all of us | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
has always been a great deal more than the tax take | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
that the Treasury would get from the duty. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Well, in a statement the Wine and Spirit Trade Association | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
said they fully supported an attempt to appeal a ruling | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
in favour of minimum unit pricing. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
According to them, evidence shows that minimum unit pricing | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
will not stop the small minority of harmful drinkers | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
who are least responsive to price, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
but will unfairly punish the majority of consumers | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
who enjoy alcohol as part of a healthy lifestyle, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
especially the poorest. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
They go on to state that trends in government data show clearly | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
that the UK has been drinking ever more responsibly | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
over the last ten years, with consumption dropping by a fifth, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
and this has been in large part achieved by partnership working | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
between industry and government, in a targeted manner. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Even though the Welsh Government wants to adopt minimum unit pricing | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
on alcohol, it doesn't have the power to do so. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
The Welsh efforts are currently blocked in Westminster. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Perhaps if alcohol does become more expensive, we'll drink less of it, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
but with alcohol being such a big part of our culture, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
will it really make much difference? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
The Welsh like drinking - this is a drinking nation. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
When we think of a sense of celebration, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
when we go out and watch the rugby or the football | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
or we gather together for a party... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
..we gather together with mates, and what do we do? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
We have a drink. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
More than one drink. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
It almost defines who we are. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
When you think of all of our... | 0:23:48 | 0:23:49 | |
..our cultural exports - Richard Burton... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
..you know, Dylan Thomas - | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
those heroes of Wales also have a very troubled relationship | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
with drinking, and we almost... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
..admire them more for it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
It's part of who we are. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
It seems impossible to change a whole culture, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
but perhaps science and technology | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
can help us change the way we think about drinking. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Cutting edge research at CUBRIC, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Europe's largest brain imaging centre, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
is attempting to do just that. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
At the £44 million facility, a consortium of EU scientists | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
has been mapping and tracking | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
the brain responses of alcohol dependent patients, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
in an attempt to relieve them of their addiction. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
The reason I'm dressed in pyjamas | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
is I'm about to climb into this MRI scanner behind me, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
so I'm going to see how my brain responds to images of wine, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
beer and spirits. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
'The Brain Train clinical trial uses neuroimaging technology | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
'that's twice as powerful as a conventional MRI scanner. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
'This is like I'm stepping into the future, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
'but for some reason it's not an entirely comfortable feeling.' | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
OK, please can you test the squeeze ball for me? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-BEEP -Thank you. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
'Checking up on me is the project coordinator, Professor David Linden. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
-Hello, Jamie. Are you OK in there? -Yeah, I'm fine. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Neutral and alcohol images are now going to be fed to me, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
and my brain reacts to them, lighting up different areas. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Very responsive to visual stimulation. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Using this information, the programme determines | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
what is a visual response and what is a motivational reaction - | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
a feeling - to the alcohol cues. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
This is what we call the network | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
that's involved in the processing of alcohol-related stimuli. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Well, there's no hiding my fondness for booze, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
but then it gets even more interesting. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
The images start changing in size, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
and it turns out it's my brain that's making that happen. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
This is being controlled by the brain activation level. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
He's not consciously doing it. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
His brain activation | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
is sort of reflected in the size of the picture. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
And then the scientists find my weak spot - wine. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
And you saw that - that was a peak in activation | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
that was sort of immediately translated into | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
the size of the image. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
That's just a very peculiar experience. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
You're locked in an MRI scanner, and it's a moment of truth. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
It's... There's no way of lying, is there? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Did I stay still enough? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
-Indeed you did. -I've got no... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
It so baffling - I've got no idea what I'm looking at. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
You're looking at slices through your brain that we acquired every 1.5 seconds, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:49 | |
to look at the changes in the brain activation. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
I'm guessing I'm like most people - I saw a shot of the ironing, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and that wouldn't excite me in the slightest, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
but I saw a shot of red wine and, you know, I think, great. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
I have happy memories, happy thoughts, of a glass of red wine, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
so presumably that's not terribly peculiar? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
That is... It wouldn't, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
and often these areas that you would see are those that are responsive to | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
other types of rewards as well, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
similar to if you were getting monetary reward in a game, for example. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Alcohol cues are so abundant in your environment - | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
if you want to remain abstinent, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
if you have a history of alcohol dependency, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
you need to train a way of responding to them. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
So are you saying that you can train people's brains | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
not to be stimulated by the sight of alcohol? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
That's the underlying theory here for this trial that we're doing. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
-Cutting edge technology for the oldest addiction. -Indeed. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
Well, this has been an eye-opening journey for me. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
After all that I've seen and learnt, I can't plead ignorance any longer. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
Ultimately, alcohol is a poison | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
and it can do profound damage to our physical and mental health. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
Now, normally any BBC reporter would now give you the balancing statement after what I've just said. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:07 | |
But the thing is, there isn't one. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
There isn't any good news about drinking alcohol. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
Perhaps we need to readjust our relationship | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
and make it an occasional treat for the now and then, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
rather than every day. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
So, "good health," as they say, for some inexplicable reason. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 |