Do I Drink Too Much?


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A while back I gave up sugar and I cut down on carbohydrates

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and I've stayed off them both,

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but if you asked me to give up alcohol for the rest of my life,

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well, I'm not sure I could do that.

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And I'm not sure what that says about me and my relationship with alcohol.

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'I've been in a relationship with alcohol for over 30 years.

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'In my youth we spent rather a lot of time together.

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'But now it's a more casual thing.'

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I've seen the good,

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the bad and the ugly side of booze.

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'But actually I know next to nothing about my drug of choice.'

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It's the British drug. We've had it for a long, long time.

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'It's time to set the record straight once and for all.'

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You get into the habit of a glass of wine every night and it's just corrosive.

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'I'm going to examine my relationship with alcohol and put

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'myself on the line to find out exactly what it's doing to my body.

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'I'm sitting here with the moment of truth,

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'wondering if my liver is shot.'

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I look at the destructive power of drink...

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Acetaldehyde's a carcinogen.

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..and see how science is trying to measure and manage our love for the hard stuff.

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A peak in activation, that was sort of immediately translated into the size of the image.

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'The best place to start is at my local pub.

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'This is our culture, our tradition.

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'We drink, get merry, chat and laugh,

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'and some of us take pride in the number of pints we sink,

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'but this is not what we should be counting.'

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I don't suppose you know how many units are in there?

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Yeah, it's about two units in there.

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And according to government guidelines, the maximum,

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-or the recommended unit for a man...

-Is 14 units a week.

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-Which is two a day.

-Yes, it's a pint a day.

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-So that's my recommended daily allowance of units for today.

-Yes.

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-One pint.

-Mm.

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'Well, that's me thoroughly bamboozled.'

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I like to think I drink within moderation.

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So four days a week I won't drink any alcohol whatsoever.

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On three days a week I might have a couple of glasses of wine one night,

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maybe the next night a couple of gin and tonics.

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The next night maybe a couple of beers.

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So I think I drink well within the recommended limits.

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That's safe, isn't it?

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'The NHS website shows us how to work out the units.

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'Multiply the amount of alcohol in millilitres by its strength -

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'that is the percentage number listed on the bottle or the can -

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'and then divide that by 1,000.

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'I've lined up my usual weekly drinks and it's time to crunch the numbers.'

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So, 14 units...

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..is...

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This is ridiculous, isn't it? It's just absolutely baffling.

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Oh, for God's sake, why doesn't it just say how many units on it?

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Wouldn't that be so much easier?

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I'm buggered if I can do this.

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'Well, after a lot of head-scratching.'

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So, in total...

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..we are talking about being just on or just over

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my weekly recommended alcohol consumption.

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So it looks like I'm drinking between 14 to 18 units most weeks.

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That's more than I expected.

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Guidelines on alcohol units were adopted in the UK in 1987,

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but we've been wetting our whistles for at least 4,000 years

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and concerns over how much we consume are nothing new.

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Back in the 1830s, the idea that we shouldn't overdo it gained ground in

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Wales with the Temperance Movement

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and at the end of the 19th century the Sunday Closing Act

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came into place and for over 100 years caused controversy.

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But the very same initiative that was supposed to curb our drinking

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may have given rise to another habit,

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as Welsh historian David Howell explains.

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What you start to see is a shift away from

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drinking in public settings

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to perhaps a more private practice of drinking.

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I'm not going to say that Temperance is the reason for that,

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but it's certainly an influential factor in why people stop drinking

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in those more communal social environments.

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So you ban drinking, or you try to cut down on drinking in public places, places like pubs.

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You restrict the hours and what happens?

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People go and drink at home?

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I think you can make that association.

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The drinking level still seems to be consistent, if not increasing,

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as we go through the 19th century.

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The truth is that behind curtains and closed doors

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we have normalised the consumption of alcohol and we're not always honest about how much we drink.

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How many times have you said you've had a glass of wine at night,

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knowing that it's really half a bottle or more?

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Health surveys indicate that 45% of us are overdoing it,

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but according to the sales data, it's more like 75%.

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'That means three quarters of us are regularly drinking to excess.'

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I guess like everybody, I drink to escape.

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To escape the cares and the worries of the day

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and just go to a different place to calm down, to chill out.

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'The consumption of wine in particular has skyrocketed

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'in the past few years, overtaking beer as the country's favourite drink.'

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Perhaps it's because we think that drinking wine is sophisticated,

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or that perhaps it's good for our health,

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and there is some evidence to suggest a little red wine

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is good for your heart, but only perhaps one or two units.

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And even then only if you're a man over the age of 40 or a postmenopausal woman.

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Well, the menopause isn't going to hit me any time soon,

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but I am over 40, so for me this should be good news.

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However, the goodness in red wine comes from a natural compound called

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polyphenols and you can get the same amount from two cups of tea as you

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can by drinking a glass of red.

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I can drink a fair amount of alcohol and it doesn't really seem to have

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that much of an effect on me, or at least that's what I think.

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I'm heading to central London this evening to take part in a rather unusual experiment.

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As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the drinking.

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'Neuroscientists Fred Dick and Iroise Dumontheil

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'from Birkbeck University have devised an unprecedented experiment for me.

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'It comes in three stages.

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'First, a sober MRI scan while I do a cognitive test.

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'Then the easy part.

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'Half an hour drinking at the university bar.'

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-Can I have the same again, please?

-Yeah.

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'Because time is short, I'm hitting the hard stuff straightaway.

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'I take it back. Downing drink...

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'..after drink...

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'after drink...

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'..is actually quite hard.

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'Remember - this is for a scientific experiment.

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'Don't try this at home.

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'Or in a bar.'

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I've just had four double scotches.

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I guess that's about eight units or thereabouts.

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And I feel very warm all of a sudden and not in the least bit inclined

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to climb back into a brain scanner.

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'But I've come this far, so I can't chicken out now.'

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-How you feeling?

-Well, alarmingly, remarkably normal.

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It's terrible, isn't it? 'This the real challenge.

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'Stage three of this experiment sees me back in the MRI,

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'putting my grey matter to work under the influence.

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'The scientists want to look at how alcohol immediately affects my

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'behaviour and brain activity.'

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We know that the brain is really very affected

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by the presence of alcohol itself,

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so multiple neurotransmitter systems like dopamine,

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serotonin and so on are affected by alcohol.

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So there are the lot of uncertainties, but nonetheless,

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we'll give it a crack and see how Jamie's brain changes over time.

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So I repeat the task I did earlier. It's called a Stroop test.

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Basically I need to count how many numbers appear on the screen whilst ignoring the value.

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This is as hard as it sounds.

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This kind of creates a conflict, what we call it.

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You want to answer one, you want to answer four and you have to make the decision between the two.

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This type of task where you have to kind of control your behaviour,

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it's a bit related to impulsivity

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because you have to stop your automatic response

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and actually think a bit about it.

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'And then it's time to find out if I really am alcohol proof.

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'But they keep me in suspense while they analyse the data.'

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What's the orange stuff? Why am I seeing my brain turn orange?

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So, the grey and white is just the kind of anatomy of the brain.

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So what your brain looks like, just a picture.

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The orange is showing the difference in blood flow.

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So if MRI measures how much and where the blood goes

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and that reflects which neurons are working hard.

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This prefrontal cortex region involving decision-making

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has more blood going there.

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It's working harder to get you to solve those difficult trials

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than it did before you drunk alcohol.

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The proportion is kind of three times harder.

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My brain is working three times harder when I'm drunk

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to do the same task?

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To do the hard bit versus the easy bit.

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Kind of really the difference between the two, you know?

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So not overall, but to cope with the difficult trials,

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it's kind of working three times as hard

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to solve those difficult problems.

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So you were a good drunk on the outside,

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but when you're actually able to look inside of your head,

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we can see that alcohol is really having a really profound affect

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on the way that you actually accompanying a very basic task

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-that you have to do in everyday life.

-All right.

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So this is my brain under a lot of strain from one evening of bingeing.

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But over the long term this kind of drinking can lead to something a lot

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worse - a little-known but devastating condition called ARBD,

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or alcohol-related brain damage.

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With a clear head,

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I meet NHS addiction psychiatrist Dr Julia Lewis.

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The main symptom that people will recognise,

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and this is the bit generally at which people start presenting,

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is when the short-term memory is affected.

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That damage is the sort of damage where people can't remember what you said to them.

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Can't remember that they've got an appointment tomorrow, those sorts of things.

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But what we suspect is that at a much earlier stage

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you get damage to the front part of the brain.

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Something called the prefrontal cortex,

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and this is the part of the brain that controls the rest of the brain.

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If that part of the brain is damaged,

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you can't make sensible decisions.

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You can't integrate the information that you need

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to make a reasonable choice.

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But also, you can't control your impulses,

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you can't motivate yourself

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and you can't switch well from one task to another.

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But this isn't something that someone that just drinks moderately

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needs to worry about, is it?

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You need to have been drinking over 35 units a week for a man

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or over 28 units a week for a woman for at least five years

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to be at risk from this alcohol-related brain damage.

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However, there's some suggestion that people at lower,

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often binge drinking rather than dependant drinking levels

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seem to be presenting with some form of neurological damage.

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So it's highly likely that at levels much lower than that,

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alcohol is still having an impact on the brain.

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And that is bad news for Wales.

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People who don't even consider themselves to be heavy drinkers,

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like me, are vulnerable.

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In fact, it's estimated that one in 200 adults in the UK are affected by

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alcohol-related brain damage,

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even though we don't tend to hear about it.

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Like a lot of us, I often have a glass of wine or two,

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sometimes three in an evening.

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I've never thought this could be a problem,

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but what I've heard has got me pretty worried.

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One of the main industry trade associations,

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the WSTA, who represent wine and spirit businesses in the UK,

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say that moderate and responsible drinking is compatible with a healthy lifestyle.

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'I meet Professor of Public Health and expert on alcohol harm

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'Simon Moore to hopefully put my mind at ease.'

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There is such a thing as moderate drinking and that's OK, isn't it?

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-It depends what you call moderate.

-Well, the government guidelines.

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Sticking to the government guidelines.

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That I would say is at the upper end of what you should be drinking.

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You're going to be starting to see effects, I think,

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from as little as seven units a week in terms of your health.

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Is there a safe limit for drinking?

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On balance, no, there isn't.

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People should avoid alcohol altogether?

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-Yes.

-No alcohol, that's the safe limit?

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I would argue that, yes.

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It doesn't take very much alcohol to start to see an effect on the human body.

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That's pretty devastating, isn't it?

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It's a perfect end to a lovely interview, but it's devastating!

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'I didn't really want to hear that.

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'So why do we keep doing it?

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'Perhaps it's the instant gratification.'

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Alcohol travels through our bloodstream

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and within 90 seconds it hits the brain,

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increasing dopamine and endorphin levels to give us a high

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that produces pleasure and alleviates stress.

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But if we drink too much of it,

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our bodies will do their best to reject it and that's because, ultimately, it's a poison.

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Maybe it's time to go back to basics.

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At Cardiff Metropolitan University,

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Dr Jo Welton gives me a biochemistry lesson.

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What are we actually drinking?

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What are we pouring down our throats?

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Anything - beer, wine, spirits -

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contains a specific alcohol called ethanol,

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and that is made up of two carbons, an oxygen and five hydrogens.

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So that's the chemical structure?

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This is the chemical structure of ethanol.

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I remember this from school now. How dangerous is this?

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-How toxic is this?

-Erm, well, the breakdown of ethanol into the next part in the chain,

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in your liver, is to acetaldehyde.

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The hazard symbols include it as flammable,

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and this one here that kind of looks like heartburn

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means it's a serious health hazard, so acetaldehyde's a carcinogen.

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And this also adds to it, and it's also a symbol for a health hazard.

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So if I have a couple of glasses of wine, beers, spirits,

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that ends up inside my liver, ultimately?

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-Yes, yes.

-So we're effectively pouring poisons down our throat?

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Yeah. It's not particularly good for us.

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-But if you saw that in the...

-Yeah, you wouldn't want to drink this.

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-You wouldn't want to drink that, would you?

-No.

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Once ingested, alcohol is mostly processed by the liver,

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the organ responsible for filtering toxins from the blood.

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'Using liquidised lamb's liver,

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'Dr Welton sets up an experiment to show me how a healthy and damaged

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'liver react when exposed to a toxin that our bodies produce

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'and process every day - hydrogen peroxide.'

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So I have to try and do this at the same time, so...

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-Wow.

-So, as you can see, in the healthy,

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it's reacted much more rapidly compared to with the damaged liver.

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You're still getting the enzyme reaction, but it's much slower,

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so your body isn't able to process it as quickly as it normally would.

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So this shows that a damaged liver doesn't function properly,

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and if you regularly drink alcohol,

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toxins will build up until the liver stops working altogether.

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I've never thought about my liver.

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I mean, I'm aware that, you know,

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if you drink there are all those terrible diseases -

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cirrhosis of the liver and...

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..all kinds of liver diseases that you're...

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you're gambling with, so I've never had mine tested,

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and I've no idea what shape it's in.

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'I've been consuming alcohol on a regular basis

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'for over three decades.

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'That's an awful lot of toxins passing through my liver.

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'I'm meeting up with liver expert Dr Andrew Yeoman in Pontypool

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'for an unnerving checkup.'

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-The moment of truth.

-Indeed.

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'Now, in case you're wondering, I'm not pregnant.

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'I'm here for a FibroScan liver test which measures if a liver

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'is soft and healthy, or stiff and damaged.'

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So this is almost like an ultrasound you'd have with a pregnant woman?

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Yeah, it uses ultrasound,

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but it also uses a vibration wave through the liver.

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So you're basically measuring resistance through my liver?

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That's right. This is giving us the reading in kiloPascals,

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or the liver stiffness measurement that we want.

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-So what would be normal?

-Normal is less than seven.

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-Yeah.

-Anything between seven and ten can indicate scarring of the liver.

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Anything above 11 starts to worry us that somebody might have a lot of

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scarring or even cirrhosis of the liver.

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This is not a very pleasant experience, if I'm honest with you.

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I mean, I am sitting here at the moment of truth,

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wondering if my liver is shot, while being filmed.

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So you can sit up now, if you want to get comfortable.

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I have to say I'm very relieved that's over.

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So the long and short of it is what?

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The long and the short of it is actually you've got a nice, normal, soft, healthy liver.

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So there's no evidence of any scar tissue in there based on those readings.

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Which, I have to say, I'm very relieved about.

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I didn't enjoy any of that, cos I didn't know what you were going to find.

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No, absolutely. And many of our patients find the same when they come into clinic as well.

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Why aren't we understanding this problem with alcohol?

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I think people think it won't happen to them,

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and I think it comes back to the fact that the drink heavily, they don't get symptoms,

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and it's only when it's often too late that people realise there's been a problem.

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And I think if there's one message you'd want to get across to the general population,

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it's that you don't have to be an alcoholic to get alcohol-related liver disease.

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Increasingly, we're seeing people with alcohol-related liver disease

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and dying from these things who are professional people, holding down jobs,

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but are coming home from work drinking a bottle and a half or two bottles of wine a night.

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They're not necessarily falling over drunk,

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they're not creating social disorder,

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and they don't see it as being a problem.

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But it is creating a problem for them.

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'Fortunately, my liver has a clean bill of health,

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'but I'm not about to celebrate with a drink.'

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I know alcohol can be fun.

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There's a drink out there for every mood.

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There's a drink out there for every taste, and every occasion.

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Who doesn't enjoy a party more if booze is available?

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It can loosen us up,

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and help us make new friends.

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Even though the average alcohol consumption in the UK has fallen in recent years,

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it seems too many of us are still overdoing it.

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Perhaps it's because cut-price booze seems to be everywhere in our towns

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and cities. But is there a hidden cost to all of this cheap alcohol?

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I asked Mark Bellis, the director of Public Health Wales.

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Can we quantify the real cost of alcohol abuse to Wales?

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Well, we can use figures for the UK,

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and for that we talk about a cost around crime,

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losses in employment and health, of about £21 billion per year,

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and that's about £3.5 billion of that cost falls on the NHS,

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about £11 billion falls on criminal justice,

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and the rest falls on losses because people don't go to work,

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or they're off on long-term sick.

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So we can talk about it in terms of pounds,

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but we can also talk about it in terms of, for instance,

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in Wales more than 50,000 admissions to hospital every year

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for alcohol-related problems.

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The real cost of alcohol is not reflected in what we're currently charging for it.

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What people, when they see cheap alcohol,

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they think only of what they're paying for that bottle of wine

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or that can of beer, but they are also paying perhaps, as a family,

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up to £1,000 a year more to deal with the consequences of alcohol being sold too cheaply.

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One way or another, even if you're not the drinker,

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you're going to be paying for a lot of cheap,

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highly promoted alcohol in Wales.

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'A movement for the adoption of minimum pricing per unit of alcohol

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'is gaining momentum, but there's still stiff opposition.

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'Expert in alcohol-related violence and government adviser

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'Professor Jonathan Shepherd is a keen supporter of those proposals.'

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The forces of opposition against you, though, are considerable -

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the alcohol lobby, and the fact that we all love a drink, don't we?

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I think that the alcohol industry in general has been most unhelpful

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with regard to their responsibility.

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I think that the influence and access that the alcohol lobby had

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on the Department of Health to develop health policy was just not helpful.

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It's just plain wrong, in my view.

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Not to say that there aren't a lot of responsible producers out there,

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but at the end of the day it's about the profits and profitability

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of the trade and the industry. And the cost of the harm to all of us

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has always been a great deal more than the tax take

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that the Treasury would get from the duty.

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Well, in a statement the Wine and Spirit Trade Association

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said they fully supported an attempt to appeal a ruling

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in favour of minimum unit pricing.

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According to them, evidence shows that minimum unit pricing

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will not stop the small minority of harmful drinkers

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who are least responsive to price,

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but will unfairly punish the majority of consumers

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who enjoy alcohol as part of a healthy lifestyle,

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especially the poorest.

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They go on to state that trends in government data show clearly

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that the UK has been drinking ever more responsibly

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over the last ten years, with consumption dropping by a fifth,

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and this has been in large part achieved by partnership working

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between industry and government, in a targeted manner.

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Even though the Welsh Government wants to adopt minimum unit pricing

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on alcohol, it doesn't have the power to do so.

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The Welsh efforts are currently blocked in Westminster.

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Perhaps if alcohol does become more expensive, we'll drink less of it,

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but with alcohol being such a big part of our culture,

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will it really make much difference?

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The Welsh like drinking - this is a drinking nation.

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When we think of a sense of celebration,

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when we go out and watch the rugby or the football

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or we gather together for a party...

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..we gather together with mates, and what do we do?

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We have a drink.

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More than one drink.

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It almost defines who we are.

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When you think of all of our...

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..our cultural exports - Richard Burton...

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..you know, Dylan Thomas -

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those heroes of Wales also have a very troubled relationship

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with drinking, and we almost...

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..admire them more for it.

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It's part of who we are.

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It seems impossible to change a whole culture,

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but perhaps science and technology

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can help us change the way we think about drinking.

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Cutting edge research at CUBRIC,

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Europe's largest brain imaging centre,

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is attempting to do just that.

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At the £44 million facility, a consortium of EU scientists

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has been mapping and tracking

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the brain responses of alcohol dependent patients,

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in an attempt to relieve them of their addiction.

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The reason I'm dressed in pyjamas

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is I'm about to climb into this MRI scanner behind me,

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so I'm going to see how my brain responds to images of wine,

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beer and spirits.

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'The Brain Train clinical trial uses neuroimaging technology

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'that's twice as powerful as a conventional MRI scanner.

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'This is like I'm stepping into the future,

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'but for some reason it's not an entirely comfortable feeling.'

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OK, please can you test the squeeze ball for me?

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-BEEP

-Thank you.

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'Checking up on me is the project coordinator, Professor David Linden.

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-Hello, Jamie. Are you OK in there?

-Yeah, I'm fine.

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Neutral and alcohol images are now going to be fed to me,

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and my brain reacts to them, lighting up different areas.

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Very responsive to visual stimulation.

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Using this information, the programme determines

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what is a visual response and what is a motivational reaction -

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a feeling - to the alcohol cues.

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This is what we call the network

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that's involved in the processing of alcohol-related stimuli.

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Well, there's no hiding my fondness for booze,

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but then it gets even more interesting.

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The images start changing in size,

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and it turns out it's my brain that's making that happen.

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This is being controlled by the brain activation level.

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He's not consciously doing it.

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His brain activation

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is sort of reflected in the size of the picture.

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And then the scientists find my weak spot - wine.

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And you saw that - that was a peak in activation

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that was sort of immediately translated into

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the size of the image.

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That's just a very peculiar experience.

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You're locked in an MRI scanner, and it's a moment of truth.

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It's... There's no way of lying, is there?

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Did I stay still enough?

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-Indeed you did.

-I've got no...

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It so baffling - I've got no idea what I'm looking at.

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You're looking at slices through your brain that we acquired every 1.5 seconds,

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to look at the changes in the brain activation.

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I'm guessing I'm like most people - I saw a shot of the ironing,

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and that wouldn't excite me in the slightest,

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but I saw a shot of red wine and, you know, I think, great.

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I have happy memories, happy thoughts, of a glass of red wine,

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so presumably that's not terribly peculiar?

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That is... It wouldn't,

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and often these areas that you would see are those that are responsive to

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other types of rewards as well,

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similar to if you were getting monetary reward in a game, for example.

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Alcohol cues are so abundant in your environment -

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if you want to remain abstinent,

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if you have a history of alcohol dependency,

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you need to train a way of responding to them.

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So are you saying that you can train people's brains

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not to be stimulated by the sight of alcohol?

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That's the underlying theory here for this trial that we're doing.

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-Cutting edge technology for the oldest addiction.

-Indeed.

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Well, this has been an eye-opening journey for me.

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After all that I've seen and learnt, I can't plead ignorance any longer.

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Ultimately, alcohol is a poison

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and it can do profound damage to our physical and mental health.

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Now, normally any BBC reporter would now give you the balancing statement after what I've just said.

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But the thing is, there isn't one.

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There isn't any good news about drinking alcohol.

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Perhaps we need to readjust our relationship

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and make it an occasional treat for the now and then,

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rather than every day.

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So, "good health," as they say, for some inexplicable reason.

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