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Every day, we face a huge number of choices about food.

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Everything from what we buy...

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..to whether it's good for us...

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..and how to cook it.

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Beautiful.

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In this series, we're going to use our expertise to help you

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make the best food choices.

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We want to improve your cooking...

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Well done, girl. Looks delicious.

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..your health...

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So, even if I've washed my hands, my forearms are still contaminated.

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..and your bank balance.

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So what are you getting when you spend extra money?

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I'm scientist Alice Roberts.

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I'll be looking at the latest research into nutrition

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to find out what's good for us and what's not.

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I'm journalist Sean Fletcher.

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I'll investigate which everyday products are value for money

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and which are a rip off.

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And I'm chef Tom Kerridge.

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And I'll be sharing my tricks of the trade

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that I guarantee will fire up your taste buds.

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That looks great.

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We're going to dish up the plain facts

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so we can all enjoy our food more.

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-Cheers.

-Cheers.

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Coming up:

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Recently, there have been a lot of alarming headlines

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about processed meat, but how worried should we be?

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Tom tries to save another kitchen disaster.

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It's terrible already!

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It's not terrible, it's not, it's not, it's not.

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Sean finds out what budget

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and premium mayonnaises are really made of.

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I'm flabbergasted by how many ingredients there are.

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And I'll be revealing if aphrodisiacs actually work.

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-I like your hair.

-Thank you very much.

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His heart rate's gone up to 120.

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First up...

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MUSIC: Glory Box by Portishead

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Last year, there was one particular story about food

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and health that dominated the headlines

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and it was the claim that processed meat causes cancer.

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A World Health Organisation report described processed meat

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as a group one carcinogen,

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in the same category as asbestos, arsenic and cigarettes.

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The story made headlines around the world.

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Since the announcement and all of the subsequent press,

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sales of bacon and sausages dropped dramatically by £25 million in this country.

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So it's clear that many of us were scared off eating them.

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So I want to get to the truth behind this story.

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I want to find out just how dangerous

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eating processed meat really is.

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I've come to Reading University's Food and Nutritional Sciences Department.

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I'm meeting Associate Professor Gunter Kuhnle

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who's going to show me why processed meats have been linked to cancer.

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We probably don't need a whole rasher, do we,

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so I'll maybe just cut off the end of it there.

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With this test, we should see something that's been added to the bacon.

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A chemical at the heart of the debate surrounding processed meat.

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If it's present, the liquid will turn pink.

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Yeah, there's a pink tinge just starting to appear

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-around the edges there.

-Very definitely

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Ah, yes.

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What's been detected is a preservative called sodium nitrite.

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Well, I think we've definitely proved the existence of nitrite

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-in that piece of bacon.

-Oh, yes.

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Sodium nitrite is added to processed meat during the curing process,

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which Gunter is going to show me.

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So we have here a piece of bacon. We wrap it with curing salt,

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which is really just table salt with a small amount of sodium nitrite.

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Sodium nitrite kills the bacteria that can lead to botulism,

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a deadly form of food poisoning.

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It's a chemical that keeps us safe

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but it's also responsible for the link to bowel cancer,

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one of the most common types of cancer diagnosed in the UK.

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This is really the problem with having nitrite in processed meat,

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is that what, on one hand, preserves the meat causes on the other hand,

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can cause cancer, can increase the risk of cancer.

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The acidic conditions of the stomach are the perfect environment

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for converting these nitrites into compounds that can cause cancer.

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And so it makes sense that the link is to bowel cancer

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because that's where these dangerous compounds are being formed,

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actually in your gut as your food passes through you.

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Another way of preserving meat is to smoke it.

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Some of the chemicals released from cigarettes

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are also generated by the meat smoking process.

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They can stick to the surface of the meat

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and have also been linked to bowel cancer.

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Thanks to Gunter I've got a much better understanding now

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of why processed meat poses a risk to our health.

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There are potentially carcinogenic compounds present

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in both cured and smoked meats.

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But the World Health Organisation has placed processed meat

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into the same category as smoking.

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Both pose a definite risk in terms of developing cancer

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but what about the level of that risk?

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Does it mean eating processed meat is as bad for us

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as smoking cigarettes?

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To help me make sense of the statistics,

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I'm meeting Dr Kathryn Bradbury from the University of Oxford.

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She's an expert in how cancer affects populations.

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So, Kathryn, looking at this new World Health Organisation

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classification, what does it actually mean?

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So, tobacco is much worse.

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So we estimate that tobacco causes about 20% of all cancers,

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whereas red and processed meat cause about 3% of all cancers.

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How much processed meat are we talking about

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and what is the relative risk?

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Well, what we know is on average about six out of 100 people

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in the UK will get bowel cancer over their lifetime,

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and an extra 50 grams of processed meat,

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which is about two rashers of bacon,

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increases your risk of bowel cancer by 18%.

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So is that eating that much bacon every day?

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Yes, if we had 100 people,

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six of them just normally would get bowel cancer over their lifetime.

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If all of that group of 100 started eating an extra two rashers

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of bacon every day, then we would expect that now

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seven out of the 100 would get bowel cancer.

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So that sounds like a relatively small increase in risk

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when you put it like that.

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Yes, I guess it does for 100 people, that's for sure,

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but there's a lot more people in the UK, so we need to start multiplying

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that up. It does translate into a lot more cases of cancer.

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So if you're eating processed meat every day,

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you increase your risk of bowel cancer by nearly 20%.

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And it doesn't matter if you buy cheap or expensive processed meat,

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the vast majority contains added nitrite.

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Scientists are working on nitrite-free products

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but as yet none are commercially available in the UK.

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For the moment, if you eat a lot of processed meats,

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it might be a good idea to cut down.

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What this doesn't mean is that processed meat

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is anywhere near as bad for you as smoking.

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There is a small increased risk of cancer

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but it depends on how much you eat and how often.

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We want to improve the cooking skills of the nation

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one dish at a time.

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Tom's tips should help you to enhance your performance

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in the kitchen, no matter how good a cook you already are.

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I asked for your kitchen fails and you've sent me loads.

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From disastrous poached eggs

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to roast potatoes that no-one wants to eat.

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This time I'm helping Tina Qureshi with her kitchen fail,

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risotto.

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I've been standing here for the last 25 minutes trying to cook

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this thing, but it still looks uncooked.

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There's quite a lot of rice here.

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Looks like she's cooking enough for about 100 people!

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So, Tom, show me how to make the perfect risotto.

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We can solve this.

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I've come to Bracknell in Berkshire to answer her cry for help.

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-Hey, Tina.

-Hi, Tom.

-How are you, nice to see you.

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-Few issues with your risotto.

-Yes.

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OK, shall we see if we can fix it?

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Please. Come through.

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Tina's going to run me through how she normally cooks her risotto

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so that I can see where she's going wrong.

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So you're just using half an onion here.

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Yes, I am. And I add the closed cap mushroom.

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And, with that, I add the porcini mushroom,

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that I soaked in hot water.

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Where's the water that you soaked it in?

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Ah, right, I threw it away. Can I actually use that?

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What do you think that water would taste of?

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Porcini mushroom. I should actually have saved that.

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Are you dying inside, Tom?

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No, no, no...

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You're like what the hell is she doing?! Her pot's burning!

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It's terrible already!

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It's not terrible. It's not.

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The method, the ideas that you've got. They're working...to a point.

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Right, I'm going to add the rice now.

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That's probably about 500 grams.

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500 grams is quite a lot of rice.

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For a decent main course allow about 100 grams of rice per person.

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What Tina's got her here would feed a family of five.

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OK, let me be straight with you.

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It looks all all right, but there's nothing about that that's exciting.

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By the end of today, we're going to have you making amazing risotto.

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Kick off with some oil and butter.

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I'm using shallot instead of onion because there is less acidity

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so it's a sweeter flavour that goes through our risotto rice.

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I'm going to use 200 grams of rice.

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You used 500 grams of rice.

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-That's double that.

-And give it a good stir.

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I'm good at stirring.

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You're good at stirring. You're going to be doing a lot of stirring.

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Stirring releases starch from the rice.

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This is what gives risotto that lovely creamy texture.

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Now I'm going to pour in a massive glug of white wine,

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and straight away, the starches, the white wine and the butter

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all begin to mix together to make one kind of rich flavoured stock.

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So now, instead of wasting it, all of this lovely mushroomy water

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is going to go straight into that risotto.

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I'm going to give them a little chop to the side whilst you keep stirring.

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The ratio of stock to rice in a risotto is about 4-1.

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So for 200g of rice, add around 800ml of stock.

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You want to turn the heat up just a little bit because you've added something cold to the pan.

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So you're constantly playing with the heat.

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Constantly adjusting temperature.

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In goes the porcini mushrooms,

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together with some diced fresh mushrooms.

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Put in two teaspoons of mascarpone cheese.

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That's not a teaspoon, mate!

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Tell you what, look...

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In my world, that's a teaspoon!

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Oh, gosh! That is a lot!

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I need you to grate me a load of Parmesan cheese,

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at least down to about there, half way.

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Now, parmesan cheese is really important.

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High in salt, high in acid.

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That's going to help cut through all of the richness already in that pan.

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Pop in some chives for a light garlic and onion taste.

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I tell you what, this is going to be the best risotto you've had.

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Brilliant!

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OK, there we go.

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Look at that! That looks amazing!

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That's the difference between the two

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and I'll be honest with you, it's just not as rich, it's not as loved.

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Come on, let's have a little try.

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Tom, that's delicious. Absolutely delicious.

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-Happy?

-Mm. Fabulous.

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If you need help with a dish that always goes wrong

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then share your Kitchen Fail on social media using #BBCKitchenFails.

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I'll pick a few and I'll tell you how to put it right.

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True or false? Whole milk contains more calcium than skimmed milk?

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The answer is false.

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Since the fat portion of whole milk does not contain calcium,

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you can lose the fat without losing any calcium.

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Look around the supermarket shelves

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and you'll see loads of own label items.

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There's an alternative for just about every big brand out there.

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Supermarkets offer a different range of their own brand

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products at different price points - basic, standard and premium.

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But when is it worth spending extra on premium

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and when can we get away with a money-saving basic?

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I'm teaming up with experts at Edinburgh's Queen Margaret University.

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We're going to pull apart the ingredients in a fridge favourite -

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mayonnaise.

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The price of mayonnaise ranges between 40 pence for basic

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to £3.49 for premium.

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So why the huge price difference and what are we actually paying for?

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Nutritionist Dr Carrie Ruxton has the answers.

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I'm flabbergasted about how many ingredients there are.

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-There's a lot.

-I've never made home-made mayonnaise,

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but I'm guessing you don't need all of this to make it.

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Definitely not, no. If you're going to make it at home,

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you only need four ingredients - egg yolk, vinegar, oil and lemon juice

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and that is it.

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I mean, some of these are ten, ten-plus ingredients.

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Well, the biggest difference really is the budget ingredients,

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the first one is water,

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and then you go to the standard and the premium

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and the first one is oil.

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So budget mayo's got a lot of water in it but how do you turn

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that into something that's thick and has the texture of mayonnaise?

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It's that white powder right in front of you there.

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That's modified maize starch - and it's basically corn starch

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that's been chemically altered to turn it into a product

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that creates this smooth consistency when you mix water together

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with other ingredients

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and keep it like that right across the shelf life.

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The trick manufacturers have pulled off is using a cheap ingredient

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like water as a substitute for the more expensive oil.

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But this has an unexpected benefit.

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Because there's less oil in this product compared with

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the premium and standard, you're going to end up with less calories,

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and what the figures look like

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is around 280 calories per 100g for budget

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right up to around 700 per 100g for standard and premium.

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The budget mayo doesn't just save us money, it also saves us calories.

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But do the cheaper ingredients affect the taste?

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To find out, we have a panel of taste testers.

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First, what do they buy?

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Let's have a show of hands for basic mayonnaise,

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who would buy that?

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Standard? So you three standard. Why's that, Beth?

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I've tried the budget ones before and they've not been very good

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so I've upped it to the standard.

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I'm guessing, Colin, you're more premium. Why premium?

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I suppose it tastes better.

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But does it?

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That's what we're about to find out.

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In a blind taste test, they'll score 10 different mayonnaise samples

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ranging from budget and standard to premium.

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Dr Laura Wyness has the results.

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The budget actually scored highest, it scored 5.2 out of 9,

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followed closely by the standard, scoring 5.0,

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and then the premium was 4.1.

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Surprisingly, when it comes to taste, budget came top

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followed by standard with premium in last place.

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Now what I find really fascinating is the premium

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is only around half the amount of the budget,

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so this is, in fact around about ten times

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the cost of the budget mayonnaise.

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How does that make you feel, Colin?

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I think I might try the budget.

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So we've found that budget mayo can save us money and calories.

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And if it's taste that matters to you,

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then standard and budget are pretty similar.

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MUSIC: Can't Get Enough Of Your Love, Babe by Barry White

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We'll go to great lengths to capture someone's heart.

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From cheesy pickup lines to extravagant romantic gestures.

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But there's another weapon in the arsenal of love - food.

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The idea that there are certain foods

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and drinks that have aphrodisiac properties goes back thousands

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of years, but just because an idea is ancient, doesn't mean it's true.

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So are there any aphrodisiacs

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which have been scientifically proven to be effective?

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What do people think works?

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Ginger!

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Ginger, cocktail with ginger is the best thing ever for an aphrodisiac.

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Possibly champagne and oysters might work.

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Well, I would say caviar.

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Well, it's chocolate!

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Chocolate gets something going.

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There's no shortage of suggestions but where's the evidence?

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Here's a man who should know.

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My date for the evening,

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physiologist Dr Harry Witchel from the University of Sussex.

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-Well, Harry, this is delightful. Shall I open the Prosecco?

-Please!

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That's very kind of you.

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What exactly is an aphrodisiac?

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An aphrodisiac is anything that contributes to performance

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in a sexual way, that gets the whole process started.

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Unfortunately, there's no scientific evidence that champagne,

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strawberries or oysters have any aphrodisiac properties.

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So are there any foods or drinks that can increase desire

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and excite us?

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Here's one I got from the shop, which is ginseng.

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Many claims have been made for it,

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but it is used quite regularly as an aphrodisiac.

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So have there been any trials to actually see whether it does perform?

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There are a few trials that suggest that in certain dosages,

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it will improve sexual performance.

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So is there any other herbal aphrodisiacs out there?

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Today, I've brought for you ginkgo.

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Thousands of years old,

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it loosens vessels, so people have claimed.

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So if it may be having an effect on blood vessels

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and opening them up, then it seems reasonable to suggest

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that it might have a Viagra-like effect.

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You could make that argument.

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Harry and I are keen to see if supplements do start hearts racing.

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Four volunteers - Amanda, Paul, Emily and Hugo,

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have agreed to take part in an experiment.

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We're going to set them up on a blind date with two models -

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Luciana and Daniel.

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You hold that there...

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Harry's looking for changes to our volunteers' heart rates.

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It's not the most obvious...

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Both before and after taking the supplements.

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First up is Amanda.

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She hasn't taken anything yet.

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Let's see how her heart rate responds to model Daniel.

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Her heart rate has just gone up massively!

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96!

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Will Emily's first impression be as positive?

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-Where are you from?

-Guess.

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-Croatia?

-Russia.

-Really?

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It's gone up a tiny bit, like two beats per minute.

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Hello.

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Time to test out Hugo and Paul with model Luciana.

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How are you doing?

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Again, the men haven't taken any supplements yet.

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-I like your hair.

-Thank you very much!

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Paul seems to like the attention of Luciana.

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As does Hugo.

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His heart rate's gone up to 120!

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That's for real!

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Look at this, tick, tick, tick!

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Without taking anything, both men's heart rates have shot up.

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Now Harry gives our volunteers the supplements.

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Amanda and Hugo are given ginseng.

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While Paul and Emily are taking ginkgo.

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-Do you like going to the theatre?

-I do like going to the theatre.

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120 for the heart rate.

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-Great dress, nice hair.

-Thank you!

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-I do palm reading.

-You do?

-No.

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Harry has been recording our volunteers' heart rates throughout the experiment.

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First, the results from before they took the supplements.

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What we saw was that the men really responded!

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LAUGHTER

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So Hugo went from about 82 to a heartrate of about 125,

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and Paul, he ended up in the region of about 132,

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so well done, you!

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The women responded to Daniel in a more subtle way.

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Amanda's heart rate rose from 60 to 72

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while Emily's only went up by two beats per minute.

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Now we're going to look at how their heart rates responded

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after they took the supplements.

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What happened after the ginseng and the ginkgo?

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I would say that we didn't see anything really obvious

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with the men, simply because they may have maxed out.

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There could even be a topping out, a ceiling effect.

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The increase in the men's heart rates was about the same

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after they'd taken the supplements as before.

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However, it was a different story for the women.

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Emily, on her first go, she was at 80.

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Whereas we recorded something along the lines of 107 the second time.

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The results are different so clearly, internally,

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there was stuff going on that I didn't know about.

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The first time I marked you as a six. (Sorry).

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But the second time I marked you as an eight.

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So there was definitely a change.

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We also see that Amanda had an improved response,

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which leads us to the question as to whether you thought there was any difference.

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I felt like the second one was better as well.

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Mostly because I felt more comfortable, like Emily said.

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Clearly the gingko did some work.

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It's hard to say if the ginseng and ginkgo had any effect

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on the men as they had such a strong response

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even before they'd taken any supplements,

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but both substances appeared to have a measurable effect on the women.

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Their heart rates rose

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and they found Daniel even more attractive.

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It's a small experiment so we can't draw firm conclusions,

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but from Harry's results, it seems there are some things

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that could claim to be aphrodisiacs after all.

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That shoulder of pork spends all day wandering around.

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That cooking process needs to break down the sinew and the muscle.

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Loads of flavour, loads of things going on.

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In a bowl, put sugar, salt, dried thyme, toasted cumin seeds,

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some cracked black pepper, dried sage and three star anise,

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which have been toasted and then ground up.

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pour it on and then massage it into the muscle meat of this pork.

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Straight away, that salt and sugar starts to work its magic

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and it draws moisture from the pork

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and then that flavour begins to work its way into that meat.

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This is the key to this technique,

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because as the water is drawn out of the meat,

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it's replaced by all those spices.

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Now we're going to leave this pork in the fridge overnight.

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So this is one that has been marinading for 12 hours.

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That pork has been able to take on a load of flavour

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that's come from that dry rub mix.

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I'm just going to pop it into a tray,

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and then I'm going to cover it with chicken stock.

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Adding stock not only provides flavour

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but crucially the liquid will steam the meat,

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and that's what we need to happen.

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OK, and that's it.

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Tin foil nice and tightly on,

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just going to stick this pork in the oven, 150 degrees centigrade,

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and we'll come back to it in about five hours' time.

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You could use a slow cooker

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but in a professional kitchen, we just do it in the oven.

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Oh, it smells incredible.

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Slow cooked, and literally with two forks,

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I'm just going to pull it all apart,

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hence why it's called pulled pork.

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I'm going to stick this in a bun

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with some lovely home-made coleslaw.

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