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Terry, welcome to Paradise.

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Forum, that is.

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-I never thought coming to Birmingham I'd be coming to paradise.

-Well...

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-Should be venture in and see what it's like?

-Oh, no.

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-I don't want to chance it.

-Come on, Tel.

-It mightn't be paradise.

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-Come on.

-OK, I'll follow you.

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It's taken 50 years in broadcasting, but I finally cracked it.

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HE LAUGHS

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A chance to meander around the country, see the sights,

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meet the people.

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And, oh, yes - eat and drink.

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Is melt in the mouth a suitable phrase?

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I've hailed a cab with one of London's fineness cabbies,

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Mason McQueen,

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to steer me around Britain's highways and byways.

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I'm looking forward to a decent meal, are you?

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Oh, I'm starving. I can't wait, Tel.

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Our route has been mapped out by an adventurist gourmand,

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Samuel Chamberlain, in his book, British Bouquet.

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Almost 60 years later, we're following in his footsteps...

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I'll do all the work, Tel.

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..to seek out weird and wonderful regional British cuisine

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and discover how our tastes have changed over the years.

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Do it right, son.

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-Whoo!

-THEY LAUGH

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-Have you eaten an ostrich?

-No. You?

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I found it very difficult to catch.

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MASON LAUGHS

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Bang in the centre of the country,

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Birmingham is known as an industrial powerhouse and cultural melting pot.

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But what are the culinary highlights of this fine city?

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Relax, people of Britain,

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your roving food reporters are revved up and raring to go.

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Back in 1963, our esteemed guide, Samuel Chamberlain, described

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Birmingham and its environs as "grimy and densely populated"

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and dismissed them as not being worth the visit.

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Dear old Chamberlain has taken a rather, well, critical view.

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He says,

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"We would willingly sidestep the iron fields, collieries

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"and belching chimneys that blemish the Black northern precincts."

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Well, it's not quite like that now, is it, Mason,

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-as you're driving along?

-Not at all, Tel.

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But he didn't fancy it, did he? But I think it's worth a visit.

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Do you know, Mason, I think that in view of what can only be

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described as the cavalier attitude of old Chamberlain to Birmingham,

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-it's up to us to redress the balance.

-Oh, yes.

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Allow Birmingham to assert it's due and true place

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in British culinary history.

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From being a medium-sized market town in the Middle Ages,

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Birmingham has grown to become Britain's second city.

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And there's been a few lumps and bumps of the architectural

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and town planning variety to iron out over the years,

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but from where I'm standing, those days are firmly in the past.

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Come on, Mas, we'll take a little shank's mare walk around here.

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This is Victoria Square.

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Apparently, this thing behind us, which is fairly modern,

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is called - they call it here - the Floozy in the Jacuzzi.

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-Oh, is it?

-Yeah.

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She's a lot more than a floozy, that one, isn't she?

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Are we looking at her best side?

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And that huge thing that looks like the Pantheon in Paris,

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that's the town hall.

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-God, this was a confident city, wasn't it?

-Oh, yeah.

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Of course it's the people that give the place its character,

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and in Birmingham, a warm welcome is accompanied

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by that West Midlands twang.

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Today ,we've got red Thai curry meatballs,

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chilli slaw and a garlic flatbread.

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Absolutely beautiful.

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Which you're cooking is traditional Birmingham food, isn't it?

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It's, uh...

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-No.

-THEY LAUGH

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Before we get started on this Birmingham food exploration,

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there's one building I'm very keen to visit,

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and not just for its architectural merit.

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-What do you think of that?

-I don't know what to say, Tel.

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-Do you?

-Look at it.

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It does catch the eye. You can say that about it.

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The Birmingham city library opened in 2013

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and is now the country's tenth most popular visitor attraction.

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Over a quarter of a million books every year

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are borrowed from its ultramodern shelves.

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But I wonder if it'll have the one I'm looking for.

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-This is some place, Mason.

-What a place.

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Could we trouble you, Zoe?

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-You can, yes.

-Look through and see if you can find British Bouquet.

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-Samuel Chamberlain.

-I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't stock it.

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-He wasn't very positive about Birmingham, was he?

-Yeah.

-Was it not?

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-No, he wasn't.

-No, he thought Birmingham was rubbish.

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SHE GASPS

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I would highly disagree with him.

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-Of course you would.

-Birmingham is great.

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Oh, Zoe, while you're looking, have you got Terry Wogan's autobiography?

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-You probably ain't.

-Terry Wogan...

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It's rarer than hen's teeth.

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-That's why I haven't seen it.

-THEY LAUGH

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I'm sure every copy of my book is out. What about old Sam's?

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He didn't think Birmingham was worth bothering with.

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The question is - does Birmingham feel the same about him?

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I don't know. Anything standing out?

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-Nah, no chance.

-It might be that we don't have it.

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-Just a very rare book, I think.

-Thank you for your efforts.

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-You're welcome, guys.

-Thanks very much. Cheers.

-Have a good day.

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-You too. Bye now.

-See you.

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I think that's called poetic justice, isn't it?

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And so we set out like unguided missiles

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on this Birmingham food trip.

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Luckily, I've been at this game long enough to know the best place

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to get started is the market.

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Birmingham is famous for being Britain's most multicultural city,

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and its central food market in the iconic Bull Ring shopping centre

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is the place to go to get a feel for the flavours that

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make this city tick.

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Now we're in this urban environment, I feel this market is going to

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be in-your-face.

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HE LAUGHS

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It's going to be full of stuff that you won't eat, I'll tell you.

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Pig's cheeks. Cow's feet.

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Ohh. You don't like cow's feet, Tel.

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Don't tell me you like it.

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No. OK, I'm pushing it a little bit with the cow's foot.

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There's been a market here in the Bull Ring since the Middle Ages.

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It took its name from the ring that the bulls used to be tied to

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before being taken off for slaughter.

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Another day, another market.

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-IN BRUMMIE ACCENT: All right, Terry.

-Oh, you can do one.

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-Welcome to the Bull Ring.

-I feel at home immediately.

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Look at this place, Tel, it's great.

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-Lovely meeting you.

-Nice to meet you, my darling.

-Terry Wogan.

-Ah!

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Thank God somebody remembered my name.

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The market has over 140 stalls, but it's most famous for its fish.

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-This is great. I love a fish counter.

-Hello, Mr Wogan!

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-Pleased to meet you, sir!

-Pleased to meet you, sir.

-How are you, sir?

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-Look at this fish. When did this come in?

-This morning, sir.

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This morning, early hours of the morning, sir.

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And you're going to sell it all?

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God willingly, sir. We got these from India. That's from India.

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-This is from the Caribbean.

-Is that red snapper?

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No, that's a red butterfish. Grouper, the grouper family.

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-Oh, right. Do you eat a lot of fish at home?

-I do.

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Two or three times a week, sir, if I can. I do love my fish fingers.

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Birds Eye. Ooh.

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As you'll expect, there are also several butchers selling

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traditional cuts and some more rarefied delicacies.

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-Enochs.

-All Chinese.

-What are they, butchers in Chinese?

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-I hope that's...

-Morning!

-Is that Chinese?

-Yes, sir.

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Why are you selling British meat in Chinese?

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We serve a lot of Chinese people, Terrance.

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They come from all over the Midlands.

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Are the majority of your customers Chinese, then?

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I would say about 90%. Really?

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Hong Keen, this one.

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I've done that one before after a few too many beers. Honking.

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THEY LAUGH

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-These are... And they're cow's feet?

-It's the cow feet.

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-What do you do with the cow's feet?

-For soup.

-Ah.

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-Some people, Jamaican, cook like a curry soup as well.

-And tripe?

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It's been ages since I've seen any decent tripe.

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Well, a lot of Chinese, they like it.

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-Chinese again?

-Chinese, yeah.

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-This is what we seem to be hearing, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Do you have a lot of Chinese?

-Do you supply a lot of restaurants?

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Yes.

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The Chinese community in Birmingham is now

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one of the biggest in the country.

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Migrants from Hong Kong first came here after the war,

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and in recent years, there's been a huge influx from mainland China.

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What are you selling here?

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-The fish balls.

-Fish balls?

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Chinese fish ball.

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And they are cooked?

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Uh...

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You can stir-fry, steam, boil everything.

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-It's all Chinese specialities.

-Yeah.

-What are they?

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-Those are Chinese buns. Chicken bun.

-Chicken buns.

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-They'd be delicious, wouldn't they? Do you steam those?

-Steam.

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-Fantastic. I love Chinese food.

-Yeah, I do too.

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Another large immigrant population in Birmingham,

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almost twice as big as the Chinese, and at least as old,

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are the Irish.

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I know that Birmingham used to be, after London...

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..the second choice,

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-I suppose, really, for the Irish who came here after the war.

-Yeah.

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In the late '40s, '50s and '60s,

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to do the kind of work that English people didn't want to do.

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Digging roads, building places, demolishing buildings after the war.

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They all made a good living here,

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but Ireland was a fairly hungry place.

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And they... I think they found a good life here.

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The Old Crown, which dates from the middle of the 14th century,

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is Birmingham's most venerable inn

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and very popular with my fellow countrymen.

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I have arranged to meet up with a group of old fellows who came

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over here around the same time as I did.

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-Good morning, gentlemen.

-ALL:

-Good morning.

-How are you all?

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-Fine, thank you.

-Thanks for turning up for this. Terrific.

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-May I sit down amongst you?

-You certainly can.

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I left Dublin in 1969. But didn't come to Birmingham.

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-What about you?

-I lived out here, Limerick '66.

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You're a Limerick man as well? Good man. We must stick together.

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And what about you, gentlemen? Where are you from?

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-I'm from Cavan.

-Cavan.

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-Sorry, Chabhain.

-Cavan.

-Chabhain, yeah.

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We are following the footsteps of an American who wrote a book

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called British Bouquet, which is an epicurean tour of Britain.

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And he didn't think much of Birmingham.

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He kind of glossed over Birmingham. He said it's an industrial city.

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He pictured it as a kind of desperate place.

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That wasn't your experience. This gave you new life, didn't it?

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There was an awful lot of construction work,

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infrastructure going on, roads, rebuilding.

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Like Spaghetti Junction, for instance,

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and all that type of thing was going on.

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That was the attraction, wasn't it? That it was an industrial city.

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-There was work.

-Yeah.

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In the '50s and '60s Birmingham,

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an Irishman would have gone to work on the kind of breakfast

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they've been raised on back home in rural Ireland -

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cold-pressed beef, pork scratchings

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and even good old bread and dripping.

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Forgotten food from a bygone era.

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You know, the dripping on the bread.

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It's a long time since I've had dripping on bread,

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I'll be honest with you.

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-Would you eat this kind of stuff?

-No.

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TERRY LAUGHS

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I couldn't anyway cos I'm in a gluten-free diet and there's barley.

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I see, yeah. That's always the excuse.

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-Or good ole scratching for Lent.

-Scratchings, yeah.

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-I mean, do you eat a lot of scratchings?

-No.

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-THEY LAUGH

-And the old pint of stout.

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Was that what sustained you throughout the hard times?

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-Not really. Not with drinking, no.

-No? No, neither do I.

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I stopped drinking Guinness as soon as I could afford vodka.

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THEY LAUGH

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There is a popular idea that there are more canals in Birmingham

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-then there are in Venice.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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But luckily, there's no gondoliers.

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Nobody is singing out of tune as they go up and down the canals.

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I'm looking forward to seeing it,

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because it's quite a feature of the city, isn't it?

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A city built on canals.

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I hope their infrastructure is a little bit better than their roads.

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They love a flyover here, Tel, I know that.

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By the end of the 18th century, Birmingham

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and the surrounding Black Country was the foremost industrial

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and manufacturing centre in the world.

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And the canals played a big part in that.

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At their peak, they were so busy they had to install gas lighting

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around the locks to allow round-the-clock operation.

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These days, the canals are less hard work and industry,

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more leisure and fine dining, as I'm about to find out.

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-We have melon and Parma ham.

-Oh, how lovely. Thank you.

-Enjoy.

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Travelling around Birmingham by car, it's not ideal.

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But by canal, by this, when you're going along the canals

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-by narrow boats, it transforms the city.

-It's beautiful.

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-It's a completely different look.

-It really, yeah. Absolutely.

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Even the sky seems better, seems different.

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100 years ago, it would have been

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absolutely full of boats loading, unloading.

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It would have been a dirty, noisy place.

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The city was very, very small.

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It wasn't a city until the canals arrived.

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And with the coming of the canals, came people.

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They could bring fuel, there was work.

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And the city grew very rapidly.

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The canals, initially, would have carried absolutely everything,

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including food.

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And certainly later on when the railways came,

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perishable food would go by rail.

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But things like grain, flour, sugar, salt,

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that would still be carried by canal.

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And, of course,

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you needed to fuel the factories that were producing food.

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So here in Birmingham, there was the custard factory.

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Cadbury, certainly, they carried chocolate crumb. They carried milk.

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-Of course, Bournville.

-Bournville, just up the road.

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So the links with the canals and food are, well,

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there inextricably linked.

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So here we are eating Parma ham and melon.

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Probably they wouldn't have eaten that 100 years ago.

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It's a little bit different to what they'd have been eating

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on boats 100 years ago.

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They wouldn't have heard of Parma ham. Or melon.

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What's the traditional food of the Black Country?

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Black Country food, it's simple.

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I suppose like most working-class food. They make the most of things.

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They'd have used scraps. They'd have cooked with offal.

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Erm...

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Food would have been simple.

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And if you are boating, it would need to be easy to cook,

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easy to serve.

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So a pot, a good pot of something.

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TRADITIONAL CHINESE MUSIC PLAYS

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Well, I've had my starter. Very nice it was, too.

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But it's coming up to lunch time,

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and I feel we'd be doing ourselves in Birmingham a disservice

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if we didn't continue this gastronomic voyage of discovery

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in the Chinese quarter.

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Now we are in it. We are in gritty Birmingham. Let's bounce a bit.

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-We're not in the country no more.

-What? We're going to be like...

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-Have a presence about yourself.

-We've got to be like urban sophisticates.

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-Know what we're doing.

-That's us, OK.

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-We know what we want.

-A little pimp walking, eh?

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We want some good Chinese!

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And so we arrive at a fine looking restaurant,

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although the proprietor's name might raise a few eyebrows.

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IMITATES SEAN CONNERY: Greetings, Terry. Do you like dim sum?

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-Strict rules of golf, Mr Bond.

-Welcome, this way, please.

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It being lunchtime, the only thing to eat is dim sum,

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those little Cantonese mouthfuls of deliciousness.

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Quick, Mason, to the dining room!

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-You're not James Bond Wong, are you?

-I am.

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My father, unfortunately, named me after the great Secret Service spy.

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There's nothing wrong with that. HE LAUGHS

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Unfortunately, I haven't got the looks or the charm.

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So, you know, I've got a licence to serve you.

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But your food is your charm, sir.

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Tell us about your dim sums.

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I've got the little lovely story I usually tell people about dim sum.

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It was the emperor and their favourite concubine.

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The concubine said,

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"Emperor, you know, you always give me big feasts, a big piglet.

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"You know, I got to keep my figure for you.

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"How am I supposed to keep my figure?" So the Emperor goes

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up to the kitchen and says, "Right, give me 12 dishes.

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"Small dishes. Bite-size dishes. And make it interesting."

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So they come up with dim sum.

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And dim sum, the literal translation from dim sum is

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a touch of my heart, a touch of the heart.

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Most Chinese restaurants that open up and down the country

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would only serve dim sum until five o'clock

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because you have to have a dedicated

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department just to do dim sum, and dedicated chefs. So for us, we...

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-They're trained differently then?

-Yes, the dim sum chef.

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-They're like specialists.

-Correct.

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The dim sum chef wouldn't know how to cook, say,

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a bowl of noodles or something like that. And vice versa.

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The normal chef doesn't know how to make dim sum.

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Neither me nor Mason have got the first clue of how to make

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either, I assumed we'd be shown the door.

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But James gamely takes us down to the kitchen to see what we can do.

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-So here, this is the dim sum area.

-Wow!

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Well, you see, we've got these all prepared

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because we are expecting a busy lunch.

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So dim sum is all prepared, like, into steamers.

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As soon as they knead it, they bring it over to that side to steam.

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That looks like Birmingham!

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BOTH LAUGH

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Yeah, the new Birmingham.

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So we'll show you what he's going to do first. So, got it out.

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He's got to turn the pastry around. Form the shape.

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When it's the right size, he's going to put the filling in.

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Hey, we can do that!

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Whee!

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Remember what you learned from Mary Berry.

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HE LAUGHS

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-Hey, I...

-Getting there, getting there.

-Is that big enough?

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Little bit bigger, little bit bigger.

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Right, it's Terry's turn to put some meat inside.

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Not much.

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You've got to pinch it. Keep pinching it all the way round.

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Pinch it.

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-Look at that. What's wrong with that?

-Yeah, leave it on the side.

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Look at that! Look at that one!

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Of the two of them... Have looked at his one.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Oh, my God.

-That's not bad.

-This is more of a mouthful.

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Thank you.

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I'm very proud of mine.

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To our two chefs - Xie Xie.

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-Xie Xie.

-Thank you.

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By now, the restaurant is filling up.

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So we head into bother some of the diners.

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Gentleman.

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-Excuse us interrupting you. This is Mason, I'm Terry.

-Hi.

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-Nice to meet you.

-How are you doing, guys?

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Because you've agreed to speak to us, I thought

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I'd bring you my very special dim sum that I made myself.

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Oh, wow.

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Tzu-Chao and Chi Cao are regulars at James' restaurant,

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and as well as being connoisseurs of fine dim sum,

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they are also artistes in their own right.

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I'm a ballet dancer, a professional ballet dancer.

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-I'm a ballet dancer as well.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

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-Birmingham Ballet is very famous, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Very good reputation.

-Yeah, very good reputation.

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We are actually only down the road.

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-Well, maybe we'll go along and see it.

-Yeah, please.

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-But you have to eat first.

-Of course.

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You've got keep your energy levels up.

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Who could refuse a personal invitation to the rehearsal studios

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of the Birmingham Royal Ballet?

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Of course, I was once considered to be the Rudolf Nureyev

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of my generation,

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until a golfing accident put paid to my dreams.

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But Mason, he's still got a shot at the big time.

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I'm going to get up the bar.

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Go on, then. Show us some of your moves.

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Does everybody in Birmingham know

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that this is where the Royal Ballet is?

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Actually, funny how that we've been here for 25 years,

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I think still a lot of people from Birmingham don't really know

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that there's actually a royal ballet company inside of Chinatown.

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I mean, they come to see the shows. They expect us to be from,

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I don't know, from London and travelling down here to perform.

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I find it quite funny, you know?

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They just don't really know that there's royal ballet,

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yet every time they come to see us

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perform without knowing that this is actually our home.

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It's been a pleasure to talk to you.

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Great to see your companion dance so beautifully. Carry on at the bar.

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-Shall we do?

-Yeah.

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MUSIC: The Nutcracker Suite by Tchaikovsky

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THEY LAUGH

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Ouch!

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He's a game boy, that Mason.

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Can you hear his knees crack?

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I hope he'll be all right afterwards.

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HE LAUGHS

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That's very good!

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Oh, you're better than me.

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-Excuse me, barman.

-That's very good.

-Run the pints.

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Our final stop on this Birmingham food exploration takes us

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to a part of the city known as the Balti Triangle,

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named after the curry dish that many consider to be Birmingham's

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finest contribution to world cuisine.

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I've heard of balti, you know? I've lived.

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-I've never tried it. Was it good?

-It is delicious.

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-And as long as you have a bit of naan to dip in it...

-Yeah.

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-Bob's your uncle.

-I'm looking forward to it, Tel.

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It'd be rude not to, seeing that we are in Birmingham.

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The problem is, the balti has become so popular, you can

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now get one in every city in the country.

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And Birmingham wants it back!

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I've come to meet the chap who's spearheading the campaign

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to keep the balti Brummie.

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You're the expert on the balti.

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Now, Birmingham is far-famed as the inventor of the balti,

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-is that not right?

-Absolutely.

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It's a Pakistani Brummie fusion dish, basically.

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How did it come about?

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It came about because one of the Pakistani restaurants

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was round here wanted to please,

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if you like, the Pakistan community and the Birmingham community.

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So it's a fusion between the way things are cooked abroad

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in Pakistan and the way people liked having "a curry" in Britain.

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So basically, in Pakistan, it would be slow-cooked for about an hour

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and then served up in the dish it's cooked in.

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And it be on the bone and it'd be cooked in ghee.

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Here, it's cooked in vegetable oil.

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It's fast cooked using a balti pan made in Birmingham,

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I hasten to add.

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And it's cooked, as I say, because it's cooked in vegetable oil,

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it's a very clean taste

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and the spices are thrown in during that fast cooking process.

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So it's a style of cooking. It's not the spices that go in.

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They're not unique. You can get them in any supermarket.

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But it's the way it's cooked.

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And that's why it has to be called a Birmingham balti.

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-And if it's not a Birmingham balti, it's not a proper balti.

-Absolutely.

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-Got it in one.

-Good man. Delighted to hear that.

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While I told curry maniac Mason McQueen

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that we were off to one of only four restaurants in Birmingham

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to serve an authentic balti,

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he could barely contain himself.

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But when we got there, the owner had another surprise in store.

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Mason, this is the famous Mohammed Ahmed,

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proprietor of Al Frash.

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Welcome, gentlemen, to Al Frash.

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We are here to cook the world's first Irish balti.

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The balti gets its name from the pan that it's cooked and served in.

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I'm still a bit unclear how such a distinctive,

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spicy dish can have anything to do with Irish cooking,

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but, as you may have gathered, I'm no expert.

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We have Chef Azam. One of the best balti chefs.

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Far-famed Chef Azam.

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-From what I hear. The master of the balti.

-Yes.

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We'll be cooking a balti based on Irish ingredients today, Sir Terry.

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You're not thinking about putting Irish stew or anything in it?

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No Irish stew, but some of the core ingredients that

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-go into an Irish stew will be going into the balti dish.

-Whoa!

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So we'll be fusing East and West today.

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You don't put potato in it, do you?

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Little bit of potato, some carrot.

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A little bit of parsley and some traditional balti

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ingredients that we use for North Indian type of cooking.

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The main ingredients of our Irish balti is lamb and parsley -

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that's a nice touch.

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And garlic, ginger

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and traditional spices will give our dish the authentic balti feel.

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It's quick to prepare - on average, only ten minutes.

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Come on, Mason, seize the day!

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Do you wan to give it a stir? Go on, give it a stir.

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-Come on, Mason.

-Go on, Mason. Come on, son.

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Go on. Careful, lad.

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I don't want to lose you. We've a way to go yet.

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Oh!

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There's technique to it, innit?

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What do you do, just keep moving it about?

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Whoo-hoo-hoo! That's hot!

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Mason, I don't want to be taking you back to Nancy

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with a third-degree burn.

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The tea towel has gone, Tel.

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-Thank you, Azam.

-Thank you, my friend.

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-Very nice to meet you.

-Thank you.

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I look forward to eating it.

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To celebrate this international culinary event,

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which I feel sure will usher in a new age of friendship

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and cooperation between Ireland and Birmingham,

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we are throwing ourselves a bit of a banquet.

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Joining us are students from the prestigious catering course

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at the city's University College.

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-Yay!

-Fantastic!

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-That was wonderful.

-Wow, look at this.

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What are all you people doing at my table?

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-What's your name?

-I'm Joe.

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-Hi, Joe.

-Nice to meet you.

-Terrance.

-Terrance. Good man.

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-There's only a couple of us left.

-Oh, yeah.

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-Who are these?

-Hi, I'm Ajay.

-Hi.

-I'm Sanu.

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So, you are all wearing official-looking outfits.

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-You're here to test the balti, is that right?

-Yeah.

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So, you're not going to take any prisoners, are you?

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OK, so tell us. You try it.

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Tell us where either they are going wrong or they're going right.

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It's a nerve-racking moment, as we debut our new dish.

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-Terrance, what do you think?

-Fresh and spicy.

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Got a bit of the chilli hitting the back of my throat. It's nice.

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Ajay, you've eaten a lot of curry, presumably. A lot of tandoori.

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-How do you think this differs?

-It's really full of flavour.

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It's got amazing spice, hits you lovely.

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So this, they say, is an Irish balti.

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Does it taste any different to you from the other baltis you've had?

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Not... No. This tastes a little bit sweeter to me.

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-That's the only difference.

-Sweeter?

-Yeah.

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That'll be the nature of the Irish hidden in it, you see.

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-Thank you for joining us.

-Cheers. Thank you.

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Really nice to have your company.

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And really nice to have a really genuine Birmingham balti.

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Oh, I think, Mason, at the end of our trip to Birmingham,

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-we have to say that Sam Chamberlain was wrong.

-Totally, Terry.

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-He made a big mistake giving Birmingham a miss.

-Yeah.

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-I'm glad we came here, ain't you?

-Yeah, really glad.

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