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'I am Antonio Carluccio.' | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Wonderful! | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
'Food is my religion.' | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
'I am Gennaro Contaldo. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
'I think food is a gift from God.' | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Give us a kiss! Give us a kiss! | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
'We are an old pair of friends. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
'Gennaro is a typical southerner. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
'He is very religious.' | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
I'm a fanatic, maybe, OK. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
'But one thing I know, I do believe in Him. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
'I've never seen Antonio inside a church.' | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
'It's not just me. They say nowadays only a third of Italians go to Mass. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:37 | |
'So, here we are, one Doubting Thomas and one true believer, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
'trying to find out if Italians today are more like me...' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Delightful. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
'..or like him.' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
'And if religious food is still as good.' | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
'We are going on a pilgrimage to meet Gennaro's special saint, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
'a man who could fly and had holes in his hands.' | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
It is just unbelievable! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
'And we'll see what Italians eat on the Day of the Dead...' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
'..when all the guests are ghosts and ghouls.' | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
All the souls rise from death at 7:00. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
'We are looking for the real Italy, the Italy of today. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
'And along the way, we'll be cooking! | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
'And eating! Yes!' | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
'For me, the most interesting thing about religion is | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
'and always will be the food, of course. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
'In Italy, every town still has its own saint. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
'And even today, every saint day festival has | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
'its own special cake.' Signora. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
'Wow. Two communion wafers filled with almonds, cinnamon and honey.' | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
They look fantastic, Gennaro. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
If this would be a host given to me at the Communion, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
I would be every day in the church! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
-All the calendar! -'We have come to | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
'one of the most religious regions in Italy. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
'This landscape is about stories of saints and miracles. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
'And since ancient times, pilgrims have come to visit its holy shrines. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
'We are in Puglia in the south-east - | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
'far, far away from the industrial north. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
'I'm taking Antonio on a pilgrimage | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
'to try the food at the holy places, along an ancient path.' | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
'The Via Francigena.' | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
'And Gennaro's ensuring his place in Heaven by insisting | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
'we go some of the way on foot.' | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Here, go, Antonio, little bit more. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
If we were proper pilgrims, we'd walk thousands of kilometres | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
'and find our food as we went along.' | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-What? What is it? -Prickly pear, I don't know! -Wow! | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-Oh, prickly pear! -Wow! | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-That one is mine! -No, that is mine! | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Just brush it to remove all the little thorns. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
There you are. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
On top here, cos remember, they still have little thorns. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
That's wonderful. Look at this. Ah! | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
If we were really pilgrims, you actually will forage for this fruit. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
-Because it's almost all year round you can find one of these. -Gratis. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Unless you find a farmer that runs after you! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
-Antonio! -Yes? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Oh, that's wonderful, Gennaro! | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
I got a big one! | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
So you won't starve anymore! | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
I can guarantee you! | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
'Pilgrims did take some food on their long journeys, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
'all preserved, dried and easy to carry.' | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Ooh! Capocollo! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Capocollo, but this is a salami. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-You know what it is. -Ooh, yeah! | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-This is called caciocavallo. -Let's pretend you... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Cavallo is the horse, the cacio, the cheese, was on the horse. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
So, me as a horse and you as a donkey! | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
What you got? Have you got anything you brought? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Oh, yes. Chocolate. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
There was no chocolate in those days! | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
So you can't really be the real pilgrim. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-Ah, Gennaro! -And do you know what, Antonio? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
At least I can share, yeah? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Don't be greedy! | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
I'm not greedy! Who's greedy?! | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
'You'd soon run out of food with Antonio!' | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
'When pilgrims really had nothing to eat, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'they'd head for the nearest monastery.' | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
'They are famous in Italy for producing | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
'delicious home-grown meat and vegetables.' | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
'Actually, they were the earliest restaurants. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
'Since medieval times, hungry pilgrims could pop in for a meal. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
'And the greedy ones!' | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
'This is the Santuario di San Matteo. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
'It's been feeding pilgrims since the tenth century.' | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
'I imagine in the summer this field is buzzing with bees, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
'fruit, chicken, everything.' | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
'It looks like the Franciscan friars are | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
'still feeding passing waifs and strays.' | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
'Antonio can't wait to get his paws on that food. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
'I hope he will behave himself in this holy place.' | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Buona sera. Antonio. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Si. Si. Si. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
I quite need it! I should be free from all the bad things! | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
'But what I really want to know about is the food.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
I hear that you produce things? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
You produce it here? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
Yes, the recipe. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
And you produce it here? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Not here. Other convents, other cloisters. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
And tell me something. Olive oil - | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
you produce our own olive oil? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
No, no, no. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
'A-ha! Honey!' | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
You have bees as well? | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Yes, miele. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
Yes, but you produce miele? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Oh, Antonio, look at all these herbs. -They are wonderful. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-For blood pressure. -Cholesterol. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
-Cholesterol, depression. -Choose one. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
I'm going to choose one for you. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-This one for you. -Oh, you need it too, as well. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-No, no. Do you know what it is? -Yes. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Dimagra. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-Losing weight. -That will be very good for you. I'll buy it for you. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
Did you hear what he said? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
I am beautiful like this! Bah! | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Invitation is to go to the kitchen! | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
'Even if they don't sell their own produce, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
'they will grow and cook wonderful things.' | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Bellissimo! | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
What do you cook, usually? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-No. -'They don't grow anything. What is going on?' | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
So, this was the allotment which used to grow all the vegetables? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
'You'd think they would have time to grow a few vegetables! | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
'Suddenly it's clear why there's no time for gardening. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
'Every day, herds of religious tourists turn up | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
'to touch a famous holy relic, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
'the 2,000-year-old tooth of St Matthew, the Apostle. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
'When the tour groups arrive, the friars have to drop everything.' | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
'Except the tooth, of course.' | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
They used to have all the produce of the earth, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and it's not done any more. So there, I am really very disappointed. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
'Five friars looking after international coach tours. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
'It feels like the Last Supper for monastery food.' | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
'I'm keen to get back to dinner in the hotel, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
'but Gennaro wants to spend a night. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
'We came here for food, and frankly he's going a little off course.' | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
I told him I've been waiting for 45 years to sleep... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
-45 years? -..to sleep in a convent. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-Get in! -OK. -Bye-bye! | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Sleep well! | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Buona notte. Ciao. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
Funny chap! | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
Grazie, thank you very much. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Grazie. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
Sleep well, sleep well. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Thank you. Oh, bless them! | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
'I always wanted to sleep in a convent. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
'Make me feel more in touch. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
'When I was a little boy, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
'I wished I was a friar.' | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
To share the community, to believe in one thing | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
and not to have so much of everything. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
WINE SPLASHES | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
Good sound! | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Delightful. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Poor Gennaro. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
'After his night in the cell, Gennaro is acting like we are | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
'Mary and Joseph on the road to Bethlehem. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
'He is going completely over the top.' | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I can't get through this one, can I? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Call him Gennaro and then we will see! | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
It looks like your relation! | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Come on, Gennaro, come on! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
'The friars told me any serious pilgrim carries a heavy rod, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
'representing the burden of his sins. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
'A little extra weight will do Gennaro no harm at all.' | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
You know, we should take a stone, signifying our sins. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
The more sins you have, the bigger the stone. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
So, how many sins do you think you have done? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
-Why you want me to...? -That... Just believe me. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Well, it's quite a weight. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Ah. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
-This is mine. -Call him a cheat! | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-Ah, no, it's not a cheat! -It is a cheat. -I don't sin like you. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Gennaro, if you would be a proper, proper pilgrim, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
you would have to carry this for all the rest of your journey. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
What are my sins? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
-Shall I count them all? -Yeah. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
-You are greedy, first of all. -Yeah? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Secondly, you are storyteller. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-Thirdly, you are just existing. -Yes. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
And I think, OK, anything goes! | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
You are forgetful, as well. This is another thing. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
'Tonight, we are in a cosy pilgrim's inn. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
'Gennaro's going to make the sort of hearty stew | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
'pilgrims used to eat in the monastery.' | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
I'm going to cook lamb with peas. It's so delicious. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Slowly, slowly cook. Antonio is looking at me with a face, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
to say, "When are you going to make it?" | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
I'm hungry. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
He's always hungry. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
But this is... I guarantee, it is so nice. It's so holy as well. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
It isn't a traditional dish. We make it at Easter. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
It's traditional Easter, but you can have them every day. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
So, I'm going to start cutting some meat. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
This is the shoulder of lamb, you can see. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
I even left a little bit of the fat on it, because fat dissolved | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
slowly, slowly, will give a lovely flavour. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
And, you know, here I'm just going to do big chunk of lamb, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
-which I cut this way. -I have a plate here. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
I'm going to put everything inside the plate here, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
and season a little bit. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Then inside, and then I mix with my hands. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
While Antonio holds it... Bravo, Antonio. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Again, I'm going to have onions, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
so, roughly chop. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
Cos it's going to cook for a long time. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
So if you cut them too thin, they will mostly dissolve. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Cut the carrots, quite big pieces. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I'm going to put some olive oil in a pan. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Abundant olive oil. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
Abundant, like you like it. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-Onion goes straight in. -ONIONS SIZZLE | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
You can hear the lovely music. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Then I'm going to have celery, so roughly chopped like that. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-Very big bits. -Don't forget they're going to cook for a long time. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Then you get the garlic and just crush it. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Crush it, crush it, crush it. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
My goodness, you are strong! | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Have them inside. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
Then you get the chilli. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-With the seeds? -With the seeds. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
OK, this is a little bit slow. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
You know what I'm going to do? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
I'm going to put it right underneath, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
because I want them to have a little bit more high power. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
Now I'm going to put some anchovies. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
It's about five fillets of anchovies. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
-ONIONS SIZZLE -This is the music I love to hear. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-It tells me that I can put the meat inside. -There you are! | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Lamb inside. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
If you cook at home, yes, it will be on high flame. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
Because I need to seal the meat. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
I need to get that flavour out, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
and get the fat which is round the lamb, to dissolve it. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Yeah, move on! What do you put on it now? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
A little bunch of thyme. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
I will put a little bit of wine inside. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
-White, yes? -White wine, yeah. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
Could be red as well. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
Well, do you know what, Antonio? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
I prefer white. Also, I will add a little bit of vinegar. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Vinegar and lemon as well? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
They have this property to really lift up the flavour. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Now we're going to leave it for about 20 minutes. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Give it a stir, give it a stir. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Yeah, I will, OK, I'll give them a stir. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
And I will move them up. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Again, I'm going to put inside the rest of the ingredients. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
You see, 20 minutes go by now. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
I'll put a few more logs of wood underneath. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Now, the fire has started to get too hot. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
So I have to put it down a little bit. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
And I got a quartered potato. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
But I don't want to do them too thin. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
If they're thin, they'll dissolve. You have them inside. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Then we will put 200 grams of cherry tomatoes. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
You know that I like to squash the tomatoes like that. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
OK. To make you happy, Antonio. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Do you know why he wanted me to do that? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Let me show you why he wants to make me like that. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Because if I do like that, look. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Are you happy? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
I am not happy because you should have squashed it in the other way, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
not direct in my face! | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Now, 250 grams frozen peas. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Make sure you defrost them inside the bag. Just leave them out. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Of all the frozen food, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
the only one that I really accept they are the peas, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
and perhaps the broad beans, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
because it's the only one that, really, they are collected fresh, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
and they are very tender. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
Now, at this stage, stir them a little bit. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Hold on, Antonio. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
I am going to put them on top of my chopping board. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
So, you add a little bit of water, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
but don't put any stock or anything. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-OK? -Yum, yum! | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
And now, get some nice aluminium foil, just like that. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
And cook for about, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
on very low gas, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
for about 40 to 45 minutes. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
45 minutes? I am hungry now, actually. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Shall I go and have a walk or something, or what? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
No, we play nice game of cards. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Wow, look at this! | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Yeah, no, I know. Don't look at my cards! | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
I just was saying... I'm not looking at your cards! | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
And seven of these. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Yeah? Seven. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-Nine. -Listen, do you want to win all the time? -I won! | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-Come on! -Yeah! I won! Cheating?! | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-You are cheating! -Why don't you accept? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
I don't play with you anymore. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Give me something to eat, actually, I am hungry. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
All the flavour. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
-Lovely. -You can think about this. -Give it to me, Gennaro, that one. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
-This is yours. -No, no, this is my plate here. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-OK, have it. -That's yours. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Why are you having a big one, I having a small one? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I don't care! Give me a fork. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
I am hungry. I waited all the time for this. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Yeah, me too, but why are you going to have a big one? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-Mind you, I can talk! -Oh, the smell is wonderful, Gennaro. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Delicious. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
Ah! Yeah! I done it again! | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
I am very glad to have a big plate. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
The friars at San Mateo believe Italians are turning away from the spiritual life. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
But one pilgrim centre attracts more visitors than anywhere in the whole of Italy, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
the town of San Giovanni Rotondo. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Gennaro is extremely excited. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
This is where my saint lived | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
until he died in 1968, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:28 | |
Padre Pio was a friar who received the stigmata from God, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
the wounds of Christ. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
He cured the sick and still helps people today. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
I love him. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
When I was six, I was ill, and my mother brought me to see Padre Pio | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
and I walked beside him. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
And a voice come to me and said, "There's nothing wrong with you, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
"go to your mum, tell her you're all right." | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Since then nothing, nothing happened again. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
If you don't call this miracle, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
I don't know what you have to call miracle. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Padre Pio... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
..is like Christ for me. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
He's a person that I can put my head on his shoulder. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
Even I have heard of Padre Pio. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
He was made a saint in 2002. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Devotees believe he worked miracles. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Some say he floated above the town to stop bombers in the war. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
Across all of Italy, he is worshipped. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
I'm a fanatic, maybe, OK. You can call me anything you like. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
But one thing I know, I do believe in him. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
When I came here, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
there was just a little church with nothing around at all. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
There was none of all this. This is...everything is new. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
It's extra modern. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Now, eight million people a year come to San Giovanni Rotondo. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
But I'm a bit nervous about bringing Antonio Carluccio. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
If this is not business, I don't know what it is. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Every possible thing is turned into money here. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Even tiles for the roofs. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
It's just unbelievable. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
It is extraordinary. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
An industry has grown up around the story of one little man. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
There's no sign of people turning away from religion here. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
There's even a Padre Pio TV station. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
We broadcast in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, North America, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
-Canada. -Wow. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
And we are planning on broadcasting in Latin America, too. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
-We don't know when, though. -So how many sort of listeners do you think you reach? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
Oh, millions, millions. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
The station goes all over the world, Antonio. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
We also have a programme in English. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Yes. Hello from San Giovanni Rotondo. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
It's interesting to know. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
We try to do our best. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Gennaro is a good client. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Yeah, well... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
They use every possible means of spreading the word. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
And now Padre Pio apps for smart phones. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
All the devotees are able to watch our channel on the application. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
-How many people do you think you can reach? Is it calculable? -Virtually billions. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
Billions. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
Gennaro, you are in big company. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Unbelievable! A brilliantly marketed holy celebrity. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
-You know what, Antonio? I'm going inside the church. -Yeah. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
You want to come with me inside the church? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Do you think they give coffee there? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-No, I don't think so, Antonio. -Well, then look, I do a proposal. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
You go to the church, and I'm gong to the pub. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-Then I meet you there. -Yes. -OK, we do that. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I want to see how pilgrims eat here. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
It's pretty obvious that the 21st century has taken place here. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
The feeding of the eight million. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
This is where they've laid Padre Pio's body. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
All these people. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Maybe, like me, they are looking for simple answers in a confusing world. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
Business must go very well here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
The owner has a Cartier watch and a wonderful one as well. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
I know it cost a lot of money. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
The food that I had here, I improved with a bit of olive oil, a bit of salt, a bit of cheese. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
In those places, serving so many people, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
they have everything ready made and so on, but it's not as good. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
People are getting rich with... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
In my opinion, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
this is a mass marketed belief, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
served with mass produced food. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
Both have somewhat lost touch with their roots. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
I hope Gennaro is having a more inspiring time. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
This pilgrim, he walked all the way from Spain. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
Lourdes, Fatima, Rome, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Santiago de Compostela, everywhere he goes, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
and they give him a stamp. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Come on. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Come on. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
If this is not a believer, I don't know what a believer is. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
He brings some salami with him. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
And a mortadella. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
He says, yeah, that little fat inside, they give us energy. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
This believer is doing something extraordinary. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Religion can be fantastic, whatever Antonio thinks. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
Take this massive hospital. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Here is, Antonio, this is an hospital built by Padre Pio | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
when he was still alive. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
-Yeah. -And all the money was charity money. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
It's one of the best hospitals in the world. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-And it has over 1,000 beds. -Gennaro, that's impressive. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
This is one hospital with fantastic food. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Comes fresh every day from Padre Pio's farm. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
-Wow. -Look at that, look at that. -Buongiorno! | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Bella, bella. What kind of place is this, this wonderful place here? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
Well, this is a farm donated to Padre Pio in 1956. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
We cultivated the olive trees. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
-We have 70 hectares of olive trees. -70 hectares? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
We have cows, we produce mozzarella cheese and all the soft cheese. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
-All for the hospital? -That's all for the hospital. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Gennaro, I think that if the food is delivered from here, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
it must be very good food in the hospital. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-Of course it is, indeed. -Better than in Britain. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
So this is the paste with the hot water, really hot. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
Wonderful! They are making a caciocavallo cheese, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
the pilgrim's favourite. It starts like mozzarella | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
and it's stretched and shaped in very hot water. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
-So it's about 80... -82 degrees. -82 degrees? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
And he has his hands in it. For me, burns. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
So he have to shape it in a certain way and the layers, they're inside. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
Ah! This is what it's all about. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Simple ingredients and serious men with pride in the food they make. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:21 | |
-There is so much work, Antonio. -It's wonderful. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Then it's put on strings to age, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
just like the ones pilgrims use in their portable picnics. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
OK, here we are. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
This is the place where the cheese matures. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-Oh-ho! -Caciocavallo. -Wonderful! | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Now, this is what I call a place of worship. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Pecorino, piccorone. You have also the stracciatella. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
Stracciatella is something unbelievable. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Look at this! Ah! | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
How do you make this, tell me? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-We have to just ring all the mozzarella. -Yeah. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
And then dip it in the double cream. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Gennaro, you felt yourself in heaven today, yes, but with Padre Pio. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
-That's my Padre Pio. -OK. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
-Go away. -Yeah. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
It's so delicious! | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Oh, mama mia! | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Puglia has always specialised in simple food. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Wheat, grapes and the most incredible oil. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
This is olive country. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:39 | |
I can hear them sing. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
It's incredible! | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
What a lovely song, Antonio. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
# Che bella cose naina de sole. # | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
OLIVE PICKERS SING LOUDER | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
GENNARO HUMS JAUNTY TUNE | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
Buongiorno! | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
Anyone speak English here? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
-Wonderful. -Nice to meet you. Maria. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:42 | |
Nice to meet you, Maria. Is this your family here? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Yeah, this is my mother-in-law's land. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
We've come with all the cousins to pick the olives. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
And tell me something. Are these olives you pick, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
the oil you produce is for your own use, or are you going to sell it? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
No, no, for our own use. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
Tell me, I am very curious. What is the age of this young girl here? | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
If you have just the oil and bread, you can survive | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
and this is the most important thing. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
You know what, Antonio? If you think olive oil is the first thing, when you've been baptised, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
the priest puts oil. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
And then the last thing when you die, is oil. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
So beginning and ending. And in between, olive oil. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
And between, olive oil always through with salad, with cooking, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
we make bread and stuff. It's unbelievable. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Gennaro, I would like to see you going on a tree | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
and pick the famous olives. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
OK, can you help me? Push me from underneath. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Hey, push! Hey, hey! | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
Are you there? Well done, Gennaro. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
OK, now where's the olives? | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
Where's the olives? I want olives! | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Give me the olives! | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Give me the olives! | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
Gennaro, they already collected. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
Perhaps it was the wrong tree. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
It's lunchtime. Would you like to come? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
Yeah, yeah! Yeah! A mangiare! | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Antonio, what about the food on this table? | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
It's wonderful, wonderful. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
Peppers, potato, tomato, garlic and a lovely oil which is inside here. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:55 | |
Incredible. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
I am not a religious man but this is my idea of heavenly lunch. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
This bread, now Antonio, look at the bread. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
-Gennaro? -Yes. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Rarely I've seen a coppa like this. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
You make this one, yeah? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Maria, her family grew and made all the food on this table. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
It is fantastic. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
I think it makes them closer to God. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
Growing food helps this family through the hard times. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
It is not surprising they revere it and celebrate the cycles of life. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:32 | |
THEY SING IN ITALIAN | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Puglia is known as the bread basket of Italy. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
In the summer these plains are covered in wheat | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and they produce the most wonderful bread. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Bread, the most sacred food of all, the body of Christ. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
We are heading for an old straw-fired bread oven. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
One of the best ovens ever, because it cooks with indirect heat, amazing. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
Oh, look. This is the big hole. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
So he calls the big hole "inferno", which means hell. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
And if you are not careful, the bread goes down there and that's it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
It is a lost soul. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Perhaps even worse than that, Gennaro. I don't know what you're worried about. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
I'm not worried about, Antonio. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
If I have to go, Antonio, do you know what? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
If you ask me what person I have to have with me, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
you know, would be nice to have you. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Because I can actually do anything I like inside there. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
And also to cuddle you. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
Gennaro, you are wonderful. You're wonderful. Give us a kiss, give us a kiss. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
Mwah. Mwah! | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
Ah, bless you. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
You see? You've started changing now. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Angelo's reverence for bread reminds me of my mother. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
Nothing changes here. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Ah. Ah! | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Ooh, la pizza. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
That's wonderful. Look at this. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
The fresh tomatoes on top. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
Bread balls. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
So with a bit of cheese and a little bit of parsley, a little garlic. Wow. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Mmm. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Oh, that's wonderful. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Antonio, this is bread which you removed all inside the bread. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
And the same stuff you removed, you cook with all the vegetables, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
olive oil. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
-That's fantastic. -Then you put it back. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Purer, the taste couldn't be. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Nature as itself. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Ah! The final part of the holy trinity - the wine. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
The big one for you. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
And the small one for me. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Listen, he knows the social orders. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Yes, I know, I know. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
-That's... -Salute! Make sure Jesus, I can see you. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
It's empty. Have some more. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Shall we see if we see the Madonna now? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Can we see? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
Yeah! | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
And again. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
OK, let's do again. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Make sure Antonio - happy? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
I think I'm stuck! | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
OK! One, two, three, all in the one time. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
OK, one, two. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
I think I had enough. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
I didn't see Jesus | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
but I do believe stale bread is the most wonderful ingredient. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
-Antonio? -Yes? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Look at the view - it is incredible! | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
It is fantastic. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
It's called the Tavolieri di Puglia, so the Table of Puglia. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
I'm going to make a bread salad. What do you think? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
That's fantastic. I like bread. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
Here is the bread. A double cooked bread. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
Almost like a biscuit. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Easy. Just pour some water on top. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
In it, for the bread in it to drink. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
That's wonderful in summer. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
People, they take this bread, squash it, ripe tomato, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
a little bit of olive oil, and you have a taste. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-Say now. -Puglia. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
So I start first when I cut the carrot in small strip. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
That should be enough for now. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:05 | |
And of course celery. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
-But remember celery, I need to keep... -The leaves. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
Make sure you only use the tender part, because they're sweet. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
If you use the very green ones, they are bitter. They're not very good. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
So again, cut it in little strips. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Then the water is boiling. I need to blanch a little bit. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
Then I start with red pepper, OK? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
So you cut it. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
I'm salivating. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Then you make into little strip again. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Got the red and the yellow peppers. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
Then I go to the shallot, cut it. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Onions. Then garlic. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
And I'm going to strain it because it's almost done. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Oh-ho-ho-ho! | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Now I'm going to finish off, zucchini. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
Chop, chop, chop. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
Aubergines. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
Just a little bit, with the hard skin. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Oh, Antonio, the cats. I can hear the cats. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I love it. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
This oil, Gennaro, it is the vierette pressing of the olive, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
just brought in. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
It's just the fruit, you drink. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
I know, I know, it's drink. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
If you put a little teat on top and you give it to Antonio, he will enjoy. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
-I would, I would. -Let's put it inside here. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
I'm going to start with anchovies, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
I'm going to put two fillets of anchovies. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
You see, they melted away. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
And then I will add some garlic and shallot and a few olives, OK? | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
Then I go with yellow, red peppers. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Bit of courgette. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
Stirring, stirring, stirring. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Now I'll add inside the aubergines, the carrots and the celery. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
Bit of salt. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
Not too much. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
Not too much, you're right, because there is the anchovies. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Little thyme, strip it. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
And then I will start to put one tablespoon of sugar. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
And now I'm going to put three tablespoons of vinegar. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Wow. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Stir it, stir it, stir it, stir it, and let it reduce a bit. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
The sugar and the vinegar they become almost like a syrup. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
I add fresh basil. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
I do not cut it, I break it. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
But I will roughly chop the celery. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
-And by now, the bread... -Breaks very easily. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Breaks very easy, but it still stays in one piece, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
it's still got that little bit al dente, that crunchiness. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
-Mmm! -Which is fantastic. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
I can already imagine. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-Go on, just go on. -Come on, come on, come on. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
And, just for you, but also for me, I will put a few anchovies. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:17 | |
That's beautiful. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
Ah! | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
And just tell me. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
Go on, come on! | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
Delightful. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Yeah! | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
It's 1st November, the day of a pagan festival | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
that's unique to the town of Orsara di Puglia. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
It's All Souls Day, the Day of the Dead. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
People party all night. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
But before we sample the food, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
it's 11am and the whole town has come to mourn its loved ones. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
I don't know. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
It's moving, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
but I make some provision to put a few ashes in one huge firework, | 0:41:54 | 0:42:01 | |
have a lovely party and the firework being banged in the air | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
and there was Antonio Carluccio. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
And I hope they do it. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Where is Gennaro? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
Where is he praying? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
There you are. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
How are you? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
-All right, thank you. -Yeah? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
Are you sure? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
I know that you take it... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
..a bit heavy. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-It's all right. -You're all right. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
But be happy. Tonight we have big celebration with food, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
with sausages and fires everywhere. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Shall we go? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
-Come on, let's go. -OK, you're all right. -Yeah, fine, let's go. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
Good. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
Good, good, good. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
When night falls, we head into town to see what's cooking. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Antonio! | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
Gennaro! | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Come in, you have to see this. Come in, come in. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
There's a queue for getting the meat, for the festivity. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
So about a tonne of sausages to celebrate today. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
And enjoy themselves! | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
Queue and queue and queue. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
-Let's go eat something, Antonio, I'm feeling very hungry. -Buona sera. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
-Buona sera, grazie. Bueno apetito. -Unbelievable. -Tremendous. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
There is a strange, spooky feeling in the streets. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
Everyone is putting candles outside their houses and building bonfires. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:40 | |
They believe the flames and the sparks attract the dead | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
back to spend just one night with their families. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
We come across Vito, from the olive-picking family. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
I want to know if teenage lads still believe all this stuff. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
This house that we're near here, apparently, this old woman, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
-her name was Messalina, died in the stairs. -Yes. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-And every now and then, you hear the steps of the woman going up and down the stairs. -Yes. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
So we always put a chair so the old lady can sit here | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
and watch the fire with us. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Which kind of food do you cook now when the fire is on? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-Pork chops. -Pork chops? -Sausages. -Yes. -Bacon. -Bacon. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
-We have to light the fire now. -What time is it? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
-Half past six. -All the souls rise from the death at seven o'clock. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
-At seven? -Yes. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:29 | |
Do they have an alarm call? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
-The fire, before seven, all the saints will get angry. -Antonio, I fully agree. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
-You agree? -Of course! Did you want the souls to be angry? You tell me. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
I don't think that in the soul they can be angry if you do a little fire. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
Antonio, no, no, no, no, no. They will. They will. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
Look. He says that. They all say that. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
Seven o'clock. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:53 | |
I say that you're a minority, so we light at seven o'clock. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
-Everything is precise. -Precise. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
It has to be seven o'clock the fire has to be lit. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
Seven o'clock precise. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Raw sausages! | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
'Well, obviously it's going to be a long wait here. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
'Perhaps Vito's mother Maria has something to offer.' | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
This is a traditional granocotto for All Saints Day. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
'Granocotto means cooked grain.' | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
-So the recipe is that you put this grain... -Barley, yes. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
-..into water for one day. -One day, overnight. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
Then you boil it in plenty of water. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
Water. Then you add vincotto. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
-It's a sort of... -Cooked wine. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
A sort of syrupy thing. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
Let me taste because my granny used to prepare it, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
it was just wonderful. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
Mm, mm, mm, mm. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
I want to taste it, as well. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
It is just fantastic. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:58 | |
-There we go. -A bit of pomegranate, wonderful. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
And a bit of chocolate. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Oh, that's wonderful. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:06 | |
Here we go. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
This is a very old recipe. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
Looks to me that it's been here for a long, long time. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
-How is it? Is it delicious? -Wonderful. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
And this is what you cook on All Souls Day? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
The women go to the cemetery. So they don't have time to bake bread. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
Maria, the soul of a relative that comes inside the house. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
And do you believe that? | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Yes, I do believe. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:36 | |
Ask your mother-in-law. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
So it's true that they see the soul. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
They saw the souls. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:56 | |
I say cheers to all the souls of the world. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
Nona Pepinella, my granny, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
wherever you are, cheers. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
It's wonderful. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:11 | |
Where religious belief is simple in the heart of ordinary people, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
so is the food. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
And there is always a place for absent friends. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
I smell sausages. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:11 | |
Sausages. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
-Sausages. -Sausages. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
-Sausages. Ah! -Sausages everywhere. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
-Gennaro, they are special for this occasion. -OK. -Biscuit with vincotto. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
-Where? -Here. -OK, let's go. -In there. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
Gennaro, you know exactly that the Italians, we all love food. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
And we wait for just a celebration of any kind to have special food. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Any excuse. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Now we are going to use Italy's most famous celebration cake, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
Christmas Panettone, to make a wonderful pudding. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
Should you be the happy recipient of a panettone | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
around Christmas time, there are various ways to deal with it. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
When I talked to my friend, Gennaro, I said, "What shall we do? | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
"Shall we do something different?" | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
And he came to the idea to make the Zucotto. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Zucotto is a speciality from Tuscany. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
We start with the ricotta and the ricotta will be put in two lots. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:31 | |
And we have here about half a kilo of ricotta. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
Freshly made. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
So I think that it's now half each. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
This is candied peel of lemon | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
and other fruit, which, cut into small pieces... | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
Gennaro, can you do me the honour? | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
-Of course, with the greatest pleasure. -Fantastic. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
Meanwhile, I will put the sugar... | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
So, I divide it here probably 75 grams of sugar. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
I weigh it with my hand. And I start to work it. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
So now the panettone is a celebration thing | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
and unites all of Italy somehow. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
You say in your house you don't eat panettone. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
-I do eat panettone. -When? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
I usually have a panettone at Christmas. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
How can you do Christmas without a panettone? | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
No, that's what I think. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
So we put some cocoa powder here, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
yes, about 30, 40 grams of this. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
This is an easy recipe everybody can work, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
especially the children. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
I remember I was assisting, and you too probably, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
with all the cooking process. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
Yeah, that's fantastic. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
-That was the best bit. -Yes. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
Now I'm waiting for you to divide between the two. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Fantastic! | 0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | |
-Which one you want? -This one here. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
And then I take the other half. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:52 | |
-I'll come and cut the other one. -The other one. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
There we are. Gennaro, you must see that sometimes | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
I find it a little bit hard to be with you all the time. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Yes, I know, I do indeed. I mean you do indeed. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
-Yes, but I think... -But, don't say. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
For this pudding here, we do a light, lovely collaboration, yes? | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
Oh, you still have to do the chocolate? | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
-Of course I do the chocolate. -I need only 50 grams. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
OK, while you're doing this, I cut actually the panettone. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:25 | |
Then we cut first of all two circles to put in between. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
Shall we put them inside this one? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Half and half. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:35 | |
-Half and half. -Half here, half there. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
And now with the other one. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:39 | |
Shall I mix this one inside? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
Yeah, a little bit there. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:46 | |
These are almonds - flaked almonds. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
-Now mix it well. -Yeah. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
While I am preparing the base of it, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
where I put Clingfilm, so that we can lift it better later on. | 0:51:55 | 0:52:02 | |
And now another little trick. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Vin Santo, it's holy wine, as they say. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
Antonio, I can't wait. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
I would like to brush it very well so it becomes quite moist and flavoursome. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
So now we start with the white. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
Now give me the other one. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
I love this. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
Yes. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
Well, you put the weight here, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
and we put it in the fridge. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Minimum six hours. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:51 | |
You can do it the day before. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
There you are. La-la, la-la, la-la! | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Panettone Zucotto. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
And you cut it like this. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
Mmm! | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
-You sure? -Perfect, yes. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Yeah, yeah. Yes! | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
Fantastic. Look at this! | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
-Gennaro... -Perfection! | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
This is a collaboration that is out of this world. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
And now just taste it. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
-Shall we? -Yes. Happy Christmas, Happy New Year, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
happy anything you want. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:45 | |
Happy every day. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
Mmm. Mmm, mmm, hmm, hmm, mmm. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
-Such a delicious flavour. -It's wonderful. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
Ah! | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
I have enjoyed our trip to Puglia | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
and for good food I put up with a bit of religion. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
But before we leave this part of Italy, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
I want to make a pilgrimage on my own. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
This is the right thing. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
-Antonio! -Yes. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:45 | |
Come here, come here, come here, come here. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Oh, Antonio, I'm finding mushrooms so brilliant. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
-Let's see. -Antonio. -Wow! | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Trompette la mort. That's fantastic. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
Or Horn of Plenty in English. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Antonio! | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
Wood blewits everywhere here. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Good. Collect them. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
Bring some to me. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Antonio, there's so many. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
You are a donkey, you can carry them. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
This is my cathedral. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
This is the world that I understand. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
World made of nature. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
The mushrooms are the kings, actually funnily enough. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
Otherwise you could see sort of piles and piles and piles of leaves | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
and branches and trees become rotted. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
And responsible for this rotting, they are the mushrooms. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:08 | |
This you can see really the eternal cycle of life. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
Death comes down, something else is built up, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
life comes back again and continues and continues and continues. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:25 | |
I don't know for how long. Nobody knows. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
But that's the point. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
That's the wonderful thing, that we don't know | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
when we are turned also into earth and ashes, and for another purpose. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:40 | |
Oh, the smell! | 0:56:45 | 0:56:46 | |
It is death and life together. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
But the smell... | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
Almost edible. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
Viva la natura! | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
Antonio... | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
This stone I carry inside is ever so heavy. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
Which stone? | 0:57:17 | 0:57:18 | |
-What do you mean which stone? -Yeah. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Antonio... | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
You carried this stone? | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
I've been carrying this stone for all the journey. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
Was this yours? | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
-That was a joke. -That was a joke? Now you realise. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
I threw my stone a very long time ago. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
-You threw your stone a long time? -Yes. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
It got heavier. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:41 | |
-Only Gennaro can do that. -You fooled me. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
Listen, Gennaro, we have done a long journey. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
We have indeed, Antonio. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:49 | |
We had some grievances, but we had also lovely time. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
More lovely time more than anything else. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
Shall we symbolise everything that we ate together, | 0:57:56 | 0:58:01 | |
with that, turn the other way and start a new life. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
New life, Anton? For 30 years, after 30 years. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
Listen, listen, a new time, not a new life. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
A new time without all those stupid jokes. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
Just a minute, Anton. One for me and one for you. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
Give him a kiss. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
I don't believe a filthy stone. Throw it away. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
One, two, three. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
E voila. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:32 | |
Come on, let's go to eat, Antonio, come on. I'm starving. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
I was carrying that stone all the way and you chucked away yours. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
That's not fair. | 0:58:41 | 0:58:42 | |
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