Richard and Jaco: Life with Autism


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I'm Richard Mylan, and this is my son Jaco.

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# The lights are off

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# The gates are closed

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# Market over, market shut, market closed. #

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We visit Cardiff Market as often as we can

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to see it close at five o'clock.

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Hey, look, there's the bell.

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We've been over 500 times.

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When we first came here, like, the security guards, they used to,

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you know, give us that kind of odd look, like,

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-"What the hell are they finding so interesting?"

-Hello, bell.

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I think they thought at first that we were, like,

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scoping the place out

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to, like, do it over.

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HE LAUGHS

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Jaco has autism, a neurological condition

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that makes him see, feel and hear the world

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differently to most people.

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There she is. Here we go!

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He loves order and repetition.

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BELL CHIMES

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Whoa!

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And he films his life and watches it over and over,

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to help him make sense of a confusing world.

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-Are all these shut?

-Yeah, they've shut.

-Shut, shut.

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-He's in his element now.

-Lights off!

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Here we go! She's closing the gates.

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There they go.

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And we'll jump out. And there's me going out.

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When he's come here and he's seen it all happen,

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and it's all closed, it's like he can go home happy then, you know?

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It settles him down.

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-Bye-bye, market.

-Bye-bye, market.

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See you again soon.

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-Bye-bye, market.

-Bye, market.

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-Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

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Jaco is 11 now, and he loves life. Where are they, man?

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On the hill...

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He also loves wind farms...

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..rugby...

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..and washing machines.

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Nee-naw, nee-naw, nee-naw...

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When they told me he was autistic, I was terrified.

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Sometimes, I still am,

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mainly about his future.

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I'm lucky. I'm an actor. And I feel really grateful for my life.

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I want Jaco to have the same,

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to be fulfilled and independent.

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The world isn't set up for people like him.

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Will he live without support? Will he ever get a job?

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Will he find love?

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How will he fit into this world?

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So I want to meet people who are a bit like Jaco,

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to try to understand what life will be like

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for my beautiful boy when he is a man.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Today is Jaco's very, very last day of primary school.

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Incredible.

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He's come on so much. He's developed massively. Made so many friends.

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And now they're all splitting off into different schools.

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It's the end of an era for him today.

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-Can I film it?

-Yeah.

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When I think back to that first day...

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He could hardly talk then, you know?

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Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?

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Lots of people film important moments in their life,

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but if he could, Jaco would literally film everything.

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I'm going to miss his sense of humour.

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He's a real asset to the class. The children absolutely love him.

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He's mischievous, he's full of fun, he's full of happiness.

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Sometimes, he does things that, you know, he shouldn't do,

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he's a little bit mischievous, and the kids,

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they are laughing WITH him, but I'm really aware that, you know,

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if he does that when he's in high school,

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some of the children will laugh at him.

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I'm struggling, actually, to figure out how to deal with that.

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But I think he's almost outgrown us now in junior school.

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The teachers in high school are armed with different skills

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and will be able to see him through his teenage years.

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He just seems to be really excited about going to big school,

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as he calls it.

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Yeah, of course, I'm a little bit apprehensive, but...

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..for the most part, I'm looking forward to it.

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Jaco, Jaco.

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-Did you get People Of The Year, People Of The Term?

-Yeah.

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-Is that your cup there?

-Yeah, because I'm the winner.

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-You are a winner.

-Yeah, I'm a winner.

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SEAGULLS CRY

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It's estimated that 1 in 100 of us are on the autistic spectrum.

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No-one really knows what causes it.

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And there is no cure.

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There is no such thing as typical autism.

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You could be high or low functioning,

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extremely shy or really outgoing.

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No two people are ever the same.

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Nice, this cereal's lovely.

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I just open it up.

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And...and then put my videos on.

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The thing that unites people on the spectrum

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is they seem to relate to the world differently.

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If I let him, he'd easily sit

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and watch the same clip for hours on end.

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That's...that's the drama club.

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-SOMETHING BANGS

-Whoa!

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Here he comes.

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-Good morning.

-Morning.

-Dad, wh-what shall we talk about?

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-Did you sleep well?

-Yeah, yes. Did you as well?

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Yeah, yeah, I slept well.

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Jaco's autism can mean ordinary noises are painful...

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-Oops!

-..and overwhelming.

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I just put my headphones on because Dad is...

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too noisy.

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He also finds the unpredictability of life difficult.

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But every day, he amazes me.

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How he still wants to take part and do all the things other kids do,

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even if he finds something really hard.

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-Let's have a look over here.

-Yeah, let's look over here.

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-There's a buzzy bee.

-No.

-It's not going to hurt you.

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HE BREATHES DEEPLY

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-Try to relax.

-Yeah.

-It's fine.

-Yeah.

-Don't worry.

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-We go down here.

-Yeah. Hold my hand?

-It's fine.

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-Yes, don't worry.

-Dad, don't worry.

-Nothing is going to hurt you.

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It's getting pollen, see?

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And there's nothing to worry about cos they're so busy,

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that's why they call them busy bees.

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You are always, always looking, aren't you?

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So you are always looking for where the flies are,

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where the buzzy bees are. And you are tense, aren't you?

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Yes, I'm tense....

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You're not relaxed, you're quite tense, aren't you?

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Yeah, quite tense because...because I'm worried about things.

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Yeah, what are you worried about?

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Worried about the flies and the butterflies and the ladybirds

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and the buzzy bees.

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Yeah. It's a lot to worry about, isn't it?

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Jaco started wearing noise-cancelling headphones

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two years ago, and the change in him is incredible.

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He can cope so much more with everyday noises,

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but I worry that it cuts him off from the world.

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Do you want to take those headphones off now we're out here?

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So we can talk properly?

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Let's have a listen to what we can hear.

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-What can you hear?

-Can you hear the police car?

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-Yeah, what else?

-Hear the birds.

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Hear the... Hear the... Hear the aeroplane.

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That's the bikes.

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BELL RINGS

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And we're just going to walk around,

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and then we are going back in the car in a minute.

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Jaco has something called echolalia,

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where he repeats what he's heard.

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-Yeah, just relax.

-It's all good.

-It's all good.

-See?

-See?

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It's a normal stage in how babies learn to talk.

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But, at 11, Jaco is still processing language.

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The people, like, his teachers and myself, when we talk...

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..he's constantly repeating us.

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I think it's about order and pattern, so he hears something...

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Yeah, that kind of compulsion to...

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It's a need for order, isn't it?

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-Can we go back in the car?

-Yeah.

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Yeah.

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-Mam.

-Yeah?

-Mummy!

-Mam. Mam.

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Since Jaco was four,

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he's split his time living between my house and Catrin, his mum's.

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That's the hand-dryer. There it is.

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She's putting it on now.

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-Ready?

-Ready.

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HAND-DRYER WHIRS

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Whoa!

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-And mine as well? And mine?

-OK.

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He's had such a thing about the hand-dryer, for years and years.

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Like, scared of them, but then wanting to put them on,

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wanting to film them.

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You know, it's been a huge thing for him whenever we go out anywhere.

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So we thought, "Why don't we just have one in the toilet

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"and maybe it'll help him, you know,

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"get used to them and not be so scared of them."

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-Isn't it?

-Yeah, isn't it?

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-Do you think it's a good idea that we got a hand-dryer?

-Yeah.

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You're not going to play it all the time, though, are you?

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-You're not going to put your hand under it all the time.

-OK.

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HANDDRYER WHIRS

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I'm just worried that he's going to spend his whole time...

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Because another thing that's going to go in there

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is the washing machine

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which is another thing that, you know, he loves.

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So I think that will be his favourite room in the house

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with the hand-dryer and the washing machine.

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Jaco, wheeee!

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-Yeah?

-Jaco, wheeee!

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I think Miriam is really good for him.

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It's brought him out of himself.

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You know, she kind of surprises him.

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You know, you can't tell what she's going to do

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so that's why the headphones have really kicked in

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because of the noise. She's really noisy.

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-The Tombliboos.

-Yes, the Tombliboos.

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He is really sweet with her, and, you know,

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we'll do stuff like that, but if you leave them alone,

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you can hear him kind of trying to tempt her to do something naughty

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or, you know, he's not an angel.

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He does wind her up as well.

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Uh-oh!

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-Yeah, we laugh, don't we?

-You're funny, you, aren't you?

-I'm funny.

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Yeah, you are.

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THEY LAUGH

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Can we go feed the birds?

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-OK.

-Stand up, then.

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SHE LAUGHS

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Stand up.

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-OK. Yeah, we'll stand up.

-I'm standing up.

-I'm standing up.

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Oh, wow!

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-Oh, uh-oh.

-Uh-oh.

-Oh, my God!

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WINGS FLAP

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Uh-uh-uh!

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Wow!

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Oh, my God!

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-INTERVIEWER:

-Do you think much about his future?

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Sometimes it scares me to think about it, and, you know,

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who knows what he's going to be like when he's 15?

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I do wonder, is he going to be able to live independently or,

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you know...

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So I'm just trying not to think too much about it.

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And just see how he develops in the next five years,

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and when he hits, like, 14, 15, I'll have to start thinking about it

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and, you know, making provisions.

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At the moment, I'm just trying to enjoy him, really.

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He could develop, you know, he could not develop,

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or he could develop a lot more in the next five years, so...

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I'm just trying not to panic about it, really.

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Which is not like me,

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cos I worry and panic about everything,

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but with him, I'm trying not to.

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-Do your pigeon face for us.

-Do your pigeon impression.

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He's always had a thing for pigeons.

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That's when I first noticed

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that there was something different about him,

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because whenever he was around pigeons,

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he used to get really excited and just hit his face like this.

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And that was the first time

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I ever noticed that it was with pigeons.

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So it's weird that he still loves them.

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TRANSLATION:

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Clever boy.

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Say Mum.

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-Mam.

-Say Dad.

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Dad.

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I was aware, deep down,

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that there might be something wrong with him.

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I was away on a job, I was filming up in Yorkshire,

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and I came through the door and he was in a high chair.

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So I got my camera out, and I went to take a picture of him

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and he went like that...

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He put his fingers in his ears.

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And I put the camera down, he took his fingers out.

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I put the camera up again. He did that.

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And then when the flash went off,

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he went like that.

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And that was the first time I noticed...

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..something wasn't quite right, you know?

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I can't actually remember, at any point,

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anyone saying it could be autism.

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Maybe I blocked it out, I don't know,

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but I can't seem to remember...

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..when the word autism was said to me. I really can't.

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Jaco's first day of high school has finally come.

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The local authority have laid on a taxi for him and another child.

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So pick up Jaco and pick up another child

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and take him to his first day of school.

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So I'm going to be like stalker Dad. And follow the taxi.

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I worry about wrapping him up in cotton wool too much.

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But I think that's different to being overprotective. Is it?

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Jaco is going to a mainstream

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Welsh-speaking school, Ysgol Glantaf.

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This looks like a good place.

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I can see down there.

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I'm like a kind of rubbish spy.

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HE LAUGHS

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I've always wanted him to be part of the real world as much as possible.

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He'll join mixed ability classes,

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but have support from the specialist resource base.

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TRANSLATION:

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THEY SING IN WELSH

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Jaco is bilingual. I've always felt it's important for him.

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It's given him a sense of identity,

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and helps him fit in with the world around him.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-So where are we, Jaco?

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That's... That's me in my big school.

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To look in my friends...

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And there's all my new friends.

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I love them. Because they're great, aren't they?

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Yeah.

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And now it's time to go to classroom.

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Miss said we are going to classroom.

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Today is his first day.

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His first day in uniform, his first day following a timetable.

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First day of being with part of the sort of hurly-burly of the school.

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Hello, new teachers.

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They're very dependent, at the moment,

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on somebody telling them where to go.

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We integrate the children into a real-life school

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because what we want them to do is to see how well they cope

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in a situation where they are with other children, cos we want them

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to be part of the school, we want them to feel a part of the school.

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We aim for him to be as independent as possible,

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so that he can make friends,

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take part in things going on in the school,

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and just to get on with it, really,

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cos that's what life is about, really.

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HE SINGS

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He's down by the Astroturf. He's releasing a bit of energy.

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He's fine.

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Ticky-ticky-ticky...

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JACO LAUGHS

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I just remember lots of appointments and lots of tests.

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Lots of cognitive tests.

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I just remember the whole thing. It just made me angry.

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You just want your child to be normal.

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The first thing that you do is you blame yourself.

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You think, "Have I done something?"

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Right down to the formula that you've used,

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or the food that you feed your child with.

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Yeah, I found it difficult to talk about.

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And then, when I did talk about it, when I did open up,

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people didn't really understand.

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Especially my friends, you know.

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My male friends.

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Men are crap in situations like that. You know?

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"You'll be all right, boy." You know?

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I remember there was a kind of a moment where I was, like,

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"I've got to learn about this world."

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I just remember kind of starting to soak it all up,

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and I got past that period of feeling sorry for myself,

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and I've not looked back from that.

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'I have so many questions about Jaco's autism,

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'I have read everything I can get my hands on,

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'but I still wonder what it would be like to be in Jaco's head.'

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Thank you all for coming,

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it is a real honour for me to be speaking for you all today.

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And as Henry VIII said to his wife, "I won't keep you for long."

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'I came across Alex Lowery online.

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'He struggled with speech from an early age,

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'but now makes a living talking about autism.'

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Hello, my name is Alexander Lowery and I have autism.

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I was diagnosed when I was four years old.

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My earliest memory is of when I was three years old.

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I was in a world that was a terrifying place

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with noises so loud you had to hold your ears to face them.

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Going into shops was one of the worst torments

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you could have on this earth.

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And I'm passionate about raising people's understanding

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and increasing awareness of autistic spectrum conditions.

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-Alex.

-Hello.

-Hiya. Richard.

-Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you, Alex. You all right?

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-Yeah, you?

-Yeah, good, good.

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'Alex lives at home in Holywell with his mum, dad and two siblings.

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It's nice to get into the warm, it's pretty cold out there.

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-Yeah.

-Hello.

-Hi. Nice to meet you.

-You are?

-Sylvia.

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-Sylvia. You're Mum, yeah?

-Yeah, Mum, yeah.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Yeah, nice to meet you too. Yeah.

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What often comes with being on the autistic spectrum

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is having particular interests, things that you fixate on

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and one of them in my case is autism.

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I could talk about it for a really long time,

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so just getting the opportunity to talk about autism

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and, you know, getting to say...

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Getting everything I want said to be said, if that makes any sense.

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Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense.

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That's quite rewarding, I would say.

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One of Alex's YouTube videos is about self-stimulatory behaviour

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or stimming for short.

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He keeps rocking back and forth and clapping his hands.

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I don't think he's all there.

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Jaco has always stimmed too,

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he taps his face and clicks bottle tops.

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Alex is more physical and uses his whole body.

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Yes, I've broken things several times.

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-I've broken things several times, just because I'm...

-Have you?

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I don't know, like, at what...

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Like, you know, I don't have the control,

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if you know what I mean?

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And, actually, Alex doesn't need an exercise class,

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he keeps himself fit.

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He keeps himself fit, yeah. THEY LAUGH

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OK, does it make you feel good?

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Yeah, I'd say so, and when I'm in...

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when I'm in those... when I'm doing it, yes.

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Alex feels really passionate about raising awareness of stimming

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and he feels that people...

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You know, that really it's not even a disability,

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the only problem with stimming is society doesn't accept it.

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And, you know, Alex has had people, you know, when he has stimmed

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in the past, he's had people thinking he was having a fit.

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Sometimes I might be doing the odd twitch where I stim

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and I'm not even noticing it and someone will say,

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"Are you cold? You shivered." And I think, "No, no, I wasn't."

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That just shows that even subtle ones people pick up on.

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I think of you take stimming away,

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-it's like taking away an operating system.

-Yeah.

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And Alex used to use that little string called Freddie

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and he used to say, "It's my power."

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This is my power, it gives me power for my brain.

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Basically, it almost is a way of charging my brain up,

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-if you know what I mean.

-Right.

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If I go on a long time without it, I'm, like,

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my thirst for it gets stronger and stronger.

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And we all stim. We all do little things.

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-I play with my hair or you rock...

-Yeah, I do this, lots.

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Yeah, or even, I don't know,

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do you ever sit there and count things,

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like, count all those things, you know,

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in your head sometimes when you're bored.

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So that's something that we need to...

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-We need society...

-We need to accept it.

-Yeah.

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Do you remember being diagnosed then,

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-if you can remember that far back?

-No, no.

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I basically just viewed the world as a very confusing place

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which I didn't understand at all

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and it didn't help that I couldn't really...

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I struggled with my language too,

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but I thought I was speaking just like everybody else,

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but no-one seemed to understand what I was saying.

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Alex's language started to come at age, you know, five,

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but it was... There was still a lot of problems

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and he would go, "But, but, but, but..."

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and then he would get on the floor and have a meltdown

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with frustration, he was self-harming,

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he was attacking us, he was attacking siblings,

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he was obviously in a terrifying world and it was absolutely awful.

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All I could see in that blackness was Alex as a 15-year-old

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and I was terrified of not being able to look after him, you know.

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And then you start to see, as time goes on, and particularly

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if you allow, you know, I allowed Alex to follow the interests,

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the things he's good at, instead of worrying about

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focusing on the things that he struggles with.

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I admired Alex and Sylvia's positive outlook.

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It's so easy to fall down a black hole of worrying about

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things your kid can't do.

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I absolutely loathe discos entirely.

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Alex has come a long way since being a four-year-old who couldn't talk.

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THEY SPEAK WELSH

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THEY SPEAK WELSH

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Jaco's been at school for six weeks now,

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I'm keen to find out how he's getting on

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and his teacher's take on how he's developing.

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So, how is he getting on?

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Oh, he's doing really well, really pleased with him.

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He does know his way around for the main places,

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he knows his way to the canteen, he knows his way out to the yard,

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he knows his way in from the yard.

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He's usually last coming off the yard,

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but he does talk to the seagulls,

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cos the seagulls around here, as soon as they hear the bell,

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they know to come and pick up whatever's been dropped,

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sandwiches and stuff, so he talks to the seagulls nearly every day.

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Does he? What kind of conversations does he have?

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He has chats about one of them being the mummy

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and one being the daddy

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and they're coming to have sandwiches.

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And he's... I don't know if he's half afraid, but half likes them,

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but he's talking it through and he's getting himself through,

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-it's quite interesting, actually.

-Right.

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Now we're getting to know him really well, I think,

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-and he's settled in really well, he's very popular.

-Yeah?

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How is he getting on with integrating here?

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Because obviously it's a much bigger school.

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He's, again, he's coping really well.

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Some of the lessons, I mean, the drama lessons,

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he's more confident and more keen to get up in front of others

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and some of them are really quite nervous

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about standing up in front of people and performing.

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No problem at all. He's quite happy to do that.

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He really enjoys the music lessons as well.

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PE, he's taking part.

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There's nothing really,

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he hasn't stood out as particularly different.

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A couple of children have asked why he wears headphones

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and we've explained it's because things are a bit

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-too noisy sometimes, not always and they go, "OK."

-Right.

0:27:460:27:50

So, a few people have enquired,

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but there hasn't been any kind of animosity

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or anything strange at all. He's just kind of slipped in,

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slipped into life, really.

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That's great.

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-It's great that he's getting on so well.

-Yeah.

0:28:080:28:10

Jaco's settling in so well at school,

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taking it all in his stride.

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But I still worry about

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what the future holds when he leaves.

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'I've always had reservations about special schools,

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'I don't like the idea of separating kids,

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'because they have different needs,

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'but I've heard about one right on my doorstep in Penarth

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'that sounds interesting.'

0:28:400:28:42

-Hello.

-Hi, Richard, I'm Ben.

-Hi, Ben. Richard, nice to meet you.

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-What's your name?

-I'm Jamie.

-Jamie, nice to meet you.

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-Would you like to go on a tour?

-Yeah, I'd love to go on a tour.

0:28:500:28:53

-OK, follow us.

-Cool.

0:28:530:28:56

Ysgol Y Deri takes kids from three to 19 years old.

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Almost half of its students have autism.

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-Where you can do...

-Arts, crafts...

0:29:040:29:08

-What's your name?

-This is...?

-Richard, my name is Richard.

0:29:080:29:11

Richard. This is Richard?

0:29:110:29:13

Yes, I'm Richard. Nice to meet you.

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So, arts and crafts in here, yeah?

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How long have you been here?

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Well, I've been here for about three years.

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I wasn't diagnosed with my autism until I was 11 years old,

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so, when I went to junior school,

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all the way through I was bullied and then I was transferred over

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to high school.

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When I had my first six months there,

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I had my arm broken by another student.

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Then I got moved on to private school,

0:29:440:29:47

got asked to leave there.

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I moved over here and I've been here ever since.

0:29:500:29:53

-Wow. You've been through a lot.

-Yeah.

0:29:550:29:57

I was kicked out of school, so...

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How come you were kicked out of school?

0:30:020:30:04

-Naughty.

-Naughty?

0:30:040:30:06

-I got bullied as well.

-Did you?

-Absolutely hated it.

0:30:060:30:11

But since I've been here, I've had loads of friends.

0:30:110:30:14

-Friends with the teachers as well.

-Yeah? Are the teachers nice?

-Yeah.

0:30:160:30:21

The school has 256 students, with a range of disabilities.

0:30:220:30:27

-So, this is the flat.

-Yes.

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So, what's this area like?

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This is, like, the living room area where you can learn

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about social interactions.

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-It's like a proper little crib, isn't it?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:30:370:30:41

It's amazing in here, it's absolutely superb,

0:30:410:30:44

it's like I've learnt so much from this room myself.

0:30:440:30:48

Have you? Yeah. What kind of things?

0:30:480:30:51

I've learnt to make a cup of tea, I've learned to cook, clean...

0:30:510:30:54

What kind of things do you cook in here?

0:30:540:30:56

-I make toast.

-I cooked chicken in there once.

-Did you?

0:30:560:31:00

-Yeah. Roast chicken.

-A roast chicken?

-Yeah.

0:31:000:31:04

It's absolutely lovely in here.

0:31:040:31:05

It is really nice in here, isn't it?

0:31:050:31:08

It's quite sort of calm in here as well.

0:31:080:31:11

Everything that's in here is like your first kind of steps

0:31:110:31:14

-towards independence.

-Yes.

-Yeah?

0:31:140:31:17

It's been a long journey,

0:31:170:31:19

but I feel I'm going to make something of my life.

0:31:190:31:23

Yeah? I'm sure you will.

0:31:230:31:25

Are you allowed to sort of, you know,

0:31:250:31:27

venture out on your own or go to shops or anything?

0:31:270:31:29

-I've got no sense of danger, so...

-You don't?

0:31:290:31:32

I've got to be out with an adult.

0:31:320:31:34

He can come out with me

0:31:340:31:36

and I can teach him about the dangers of the road.

0:31:360:31:40

Cos learning things from an autistic's point of view

0:31:400:31:44

makes it so much easier for that other autistic person to learn.

0:31:440:31:48

Right.

0:31:480:31:49

We understand where everyone's coming from in this school.

0:31:490:31:52

That makes sense, I mean, obviously,

0:31:520:31:54

kind of unique individuals can understand each other better.

0:31:540:31:58

It's a massive school, isn't it?

0:32:030:32:05

-Yeah.

-I think it's too big. I'm out of breath just walking up here.

0:32:050:32:09

Wow, it's like a proper little salon.

0:32:090:32:12

-Hello. There's a nail bar going on here.

-Yeah.

0:32:130:32:17

-After you, Rich.

-Thank you very much.

0:32:190:32:22

-So, have you enjoyed your tour of the school so far?

-I'm loving it.

0:32:220:32:25

I'm loving it.

0:32:250:32:26

Class sizes are much smaller than regular schools

0:32:260:32:29

and the curriculum focuses on life skills

0:32:290:32:31

as much as academic achievement.

0:32:310:32:33

So, this is our careers corner.

0:32:330:32:35

-This is the careers corner.

-This is the careers corner, yes.

0:32:350:32:38

And I think part of our sessions here are about kind of

0:32:380:32:40

managing hopes, dreams and expectations

0:32:400:32:42

and, you know, what's realistic for jobs.

0:32:420:32:45

That can be tricky, I guess. So how do you do that?

0:32:450:32:48

We have placements in school, but also when they get to sixth form,

0:32:480:32:51

they'll go out on an external placement.

0:32:510:32:53

Then it's trying to just show them what's realistic, really

0:32:530:32:55

Most of the students do want to kind of end up working or...?

0:32:550:32:58

Yeah, I think the majority have all kind of got a plan for the future,

0:32:580:33:02

most of them do want to go out to work, the majority will want

0:33:020:33:05

to go to college first and develop their skills there.

0:33:050:33:07

They've all got the capability to go on and learn further,

0:33:070:33:09

so we try and encourage that before employment.

0:33:090:33:12

-So, this is the playground.

-It's pretty foggy out here today.

0:33:140:33:19

Do you think that all children with special needs

0:33:200:33:24

should go to a special needs school?

0:33:240:33:26

People who have the same sort of, like, differences as me,

0:33:260:33:31

should come to schools like this,

0:33:310:33:34

because it's a coping situation,

0:33:340:33:35

whereas if they went to a mainstream school,

0:33:350:33:37

they wouldn't cope in that situation.

0:33:370:33:40

Does this place feel like a safe place to you?

0:33:400:33:43

-This school?

-Yeah.

0:33:430:33:45

-Do you look forward to coming here?

-I love it.

-Do you?

0:33:450:33:49

I love this school.

0:33:500:33:52

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:33:540:33:55

Thanks a lot, guys, bye-bye. Bye.

0:33:570:34:00

Wow.

0:34:040:34:05

That place is amazing.

0:34:050:34:08

I have always wanted Jaco to be part of the real world

0:34:080:34:11

and to learn about the world around him,

0:34:110:34:13

but that is the real world in there, you know?

0:34:130:34:17

That wasn't a bubble mentality in there,

0:34:190:34:22

they're not being sort of sheltered from the big, bad world,

0:34:220:34:27

you know, they're being equipped and they're gaining the tools

0:34:270:34:33

to be able to survive and they're doing it

0:34:330:34:37

in a really kind of forward-thinking, inclusive way.

0:34:370:34:40

Yeah. I don't see that place as a bubble,

0:34:440:34:47

I thought I would, but I don't.

0:34:470:34:49

I don't. I thought it was really impressive in there.

0:34:490:34:52

So, remember?

0:34:560:34:58

One, two...

0:34:580:35:03

-That's it.

-..three.

-Three, very good.

0:35:030:35:06

-One, two...

-Hold in the middle.

0:35:060:35:10

..two, three.

0:35:100:35:13

Very good. So, why are we doing these jobs?

0:35:130:35:16

Because learn to...learn to...

0:35:170:35:21

learn to be a bigger me.

0:35:210:35:24

Yeah, when you're big, what will happen if you learn all these jobs

0:35:240:35:27

and you can do them properly?

0:35:270:35:28

Because I'm going to...have my own house.

0:35:280:35:32

Yeah, if you learn to do these jobs really, really well,

0:35:320:35:36

-one day, you might be able to have your own house...

-Yeah.

0:35:360:35:39

..and put your own clothes in the washing machine,

0:35:390:35:41

have your own washing machine.

0:35:410:35:43

-A black washing machine.

-You want a black one, I know.

0:35:430:35:46

-Yeah.

-And you can cook your own food.

0:35:460:35:50

-Yeah.

-That would be amazing, wouldn't it?

0:35:500:35:53

Yeah.

0:35:530:35:55

It means that you can look after yourself and it's really important

0:35:550:35:59

for people to be able to look after themselves, yeah?

0:35:590:36:03

'I'm thinking about his adult life now, but I learnt a few years back

0:36:030:36:07

'that you've got to plan ahead, you've got to think ahead.'

0:36:070:36:11

And then we put them...in the... in the washing machine.

0:36:110:36:16

Then we put them in the cupboard.

0:36:160:36:18

'It takes so long for him to grasp something, but once he does,

0:36:180:36:23

'he can do it really well.'

0:36:230:36:24

-Into the cupboard.

-Yeah. There we go.

0:36:240:36:27

-And we put the washing on.

-Yeah.

0:36:270:36:30

I've got to think about his teenage years now

0:36:320:36:35

when he's sort of 10, 11, 12.

0:36:350:36:37

It's very fast.

0:36:380:36:40

It's super-duper fast.

0:36:400:36:41

And then, when he's in his mid-teens,

0:36:430:36:45

I'll be thinking about his early adult life.

0:36:450:36:47

It's slowing down.

0:36:470:36:49

'Independence has always been important to me.

0:36:530:36:57

'I left home in Swansea at 12 years old to go to dance school.

0:36:570:37:00

'I have no idea where Jaco will end up living

0:37:000:37:03

'and how much support he will need.

0:37:030:37:05

'But there are places that can help provide the stepping stones

0:37:050:37:09

'to an independent life.'

0:37:090:37:11

Coleg Elidyr, near Llandovery

0:37:130:37:15

is the only further education college in Wales to have received

0:37:150:37:19

special recognition from the National Autistic Society.

0:37:190:37:22

Wow, it's great in here.

0:37:260:37:28

This is the least likely classroom you're ever going to see.

0:37:280:37:31

The college is independent,

0:37:310:37:34

but students that come here are local authority funded.

0:37:340:37:37

It takes people up to 25 years old and provides supported accommodation

0:37:370:37:42

nearby for when they graduate.

0:37:420:37:44

Life skills and learning through craft are a key part

0:37:440:37:47

of its philosophy.

0:37:470:37:49

-Hello.

-Hello. You're not Ed.

-Ed.

-Oh, this is Ed.

0:37:490:37:52

'I'm meeting 21-year-old Ed,

0:37:520:37:54

'who's been here for two years, and his mum, Isabel, who is visiting.'

0:37:540:37:57

Thank you very much. Nice to meet you, Ed.

0:37:570:38:00

Shall we give Richard a tour of the house

0:38:000:38:02

and maybe show him where your room is, if you're happy with that?

0:38:020:38:05

-Yes.

-That OK?

-Yes.

-Thank you, Ed, thank you very much.

0:38:050:38:09

Is this where you eat your food? I'm guessing.

0:38:110:38:15

So this is your room. Got it.

0:38:210:38:23

-Ta-da!

-Wow, it's a big room.

0:38:230:38:25

Is that your exercise bike?

0:38:270:38:29

-Yeah.

-Wow.

0:38:290:38:32

What was the big bike ride you did last year, Ed, can you remember?

0:38:330:38:37

-Last year - Tenby.

-Yeah, Cardiff to Tenby.

0:38:370:38:40

-Cardiff to Tenby.

-Cardiff to Tenby?!

0:38:400:38:42

-And you cycled...

-100 miles.

0:38:420:38:44

You cycled that whole way?

0:38:440:38:46

It was a charity ride. Big charity ride in Cardiff.

0:38:460:38:49

That's amazing one-leg cycling.

0:38:490:38:53

What's this here? Is this your planner, your diary?

0:38:540:38:58

What do you do on a Monday?

0:38:580:39:00

ICT suite, careers.

0:39:000:39:02

-Yeah, careers.

-Careers.

-What do you do on a Tuesday?

0:39:020:39:06

Craft, art and design for mosaic in the whole classroom.

0:39:060:39:10

And tell Richard where you go on a Wednesday morning,

0:39:100:39:13

-because you like that, don't you?

-Co-operative shop.

0:39:130:39:15

Yeah. Tell him you work in the Co-operative shop.

0:39:150:39:18

-You work... I've been...

-Stacking the shelves.

-Wow.

0:39:180:39:21

What's Ed playing? Is he playing solitaire?

0:39:210:39:24

Yeah, yeah, solitaire.

0:39:240:39:26

He's doing that really quick.

0:39:260:39:28

Yeah, he's good at it. He is good at maths, actually, yeah.

0:39:280:39:33

He's got a thing about sort of birthdays.

0:39:330:39:36

Ed, do you want to ask Richard his birthday?

0:39:360:39:39

What's your birthday, Richard?

0:39:390:39:42

-My date of birth or just my...?

-Just your date of birth, yeah.

0:39:420:39:46

-24th of November...

-19...?

0:39:460:39:50

-'72.

-24th of November 1970...

0:39:500:39:55

-Two.

-Two is...

0:39:550:39:58

Friday.

0:39:580:40:00

Were you born on a Friday?

0:40:000:40:03

Possibly, you were.

0:40:030:40:04

-That's amazing.

-Just stare and smile.

0:40:040:40:07

-That's amazing.

-Yeah.

0:40:070:40:08

-What, he can work out the day?

-Yeah, it's some formula.

0:40:080:40:10

None of us quite know how he does it, but he usually is right.

0:40:100:40:15

He's usually right, you know.

0:40:150:40:16

-Ed, that's...

-That's his thing.

0:40:160:40:18

-It's his thing.

-That's really very impressive.

0:40:180:40:20

-I'm really impressed by that.

-Yes.

0:40:200:40:23

-That's really cool.

-Really impressive.

-Yeah.

0:40:230:40:26

-Shall we go downstairs for some lunch?

-Yeah.

0:40:260:40:28

Yeah, let's do that.

0:40:280:40:30

-Hello!

-Hello!

0:40:300:40:32

Nice to meet you.

0:40:320:40:35

-He just seems, like, really settled.

-Well, he's really settled here.

0:40:350:40:38

He is settled.

0:40:380:40:39

I never, ever thought that he would be residential away from us, really.

0:40:390:40:45

He's a long way from home, and he doesn't have great language,

0:40:450:40:49

and he's not great on the telephone, so, actually, it's...

0:40:490:40:52

It was a huge leap of trust to have him here.

0:40:520:40:55

-You do have to let your kids go, don't you?

-You do.

0:40:550:40:58

You have to let them grow up.

0:40:580:41:00

You have to let them be independent, especially kids like Ed,

0:41:000:41:03

and probably Jaco.

0:41:030:41:05

You know, the temptation to, sort of, keep them at home,

0:41:050:41:07

and wrap them in cotton wool, and keep time standing still,

0:41:070:41:11

when you can't do it, can you?

0:41:110:41:13

Knowing he's happy here and he's safe here

0:41:140:41:18

has been a really, really big part of it.

0:41:180:41:22

He's achieved so much more than we ever thought he would,

0:41:220:41:26

and he's still continuing to achieve.

0:41:260:41:28

Because I know that my son really, kind of,

0:41:280:41:30

responds well to having those kind of responsibilities,

0:41:300:41:33

with, you know...

0:41:330:41:35

-ED WHINES

-Shh, shh, shh.

-..being able to do things for himself, you know?

0:41:350:41:39

Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

0:41:390:41:40

-No, he...

-He gets a real kick out of that.

-Yeah, they do.

0:41:400:41:42

-They really do. I think it makes a big difference, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

0:41:420:41:46

-You love it at Coleg, don't you?

-Yeah.

0:41:460:41:48

-Yeah, and your friends, living with your friends?

-Yeah.

0:41:480:41:51

What's your favourite lesson?

0:41:510:41:52

Er, woodwork.

0:41:520:41:54

-Yeah, that's what you told me this morning.

-Woodwork?

-Yeah.

0:41:540:41:56

-Woodwork with Lewis, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-Do you know...?

0:41:560:41:59

Do you remember what you're making in woodwork at the moment?

0:41:590:42:01

-Table.

-Wow. Wow.

0:42:010:42:04

-They do - they make the most incredible things.

-Yeah.

0:42:040:42:06

Can I ask you, have you noticed a difference in him,

0:42:060:42:10

and what are those differences since he's been coming here?

0:42:100:42:13

He's got much more self-confidence.

0:42:130:42:16

He's got much more, um...

0:42:160:42:20

He... His language is better.

0:42:200:42:22

He is more interactive.

0:42:220:42:26

He tries harder to have relationships and friendships.

0:42:260:42:30

He's calmer. You know, somehow, he's calmer.

0:42:300:42:33

Thank you, Richard.

0:42:330:42:34

Thank you.

0:42:340:42:35

Thank you for showing me round,

0:42:350:42:37

-and thank you for showing me your room and your bike...

-Yes.

0:42:370:42:41

-..and thank you for telling me I was born on a Friday.

-Yes.

0:42:410:42:43

That's amazing.

0:42:430:42:45

It makes me nervous, thinking about Jaco living that far away,

0:42:490:42:53

and how he would cope without all of his favourite things in Cardiff -

0:42:530:42:56

the market, the train station, and the hustle and bustle.

0:42:560:42:59

JACO BLOWS A RASPBERRY

0:43:060:43:08

I knew pretty early on that Jaco had an incredible amount of joy

0:43:130:43:17

in him, you know? That... That was...

0:43:170:43:18

That's always been there.

0:43:180:43:20

And that he really loved life, and that all I...

0:43:200:43:24

all I needed to do was work out what life on his terms was

0:43:240:43:27

and live it with him.

0:43:270:43:29

I know that some people look at me and think,

0:43:310:43:36

"You're deluded about your son."

0:43:360:43:37

You know? I know people have thought that.

0:43:370:43:40

# Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba... #

0:43:400:43:42

You cannot put a limit on any child,

0:43:420:43:45

especially a child with special needs -

0:43:450:43:48

you cannot.

0:43:480:43:49

Like I always say, it's like... It's...

0:43:510:43:53

I'm being led by the hand by my child, not the other way around.

0:43:530:43:56

All right, once you get your head around that, you start to think,

0:43:580:44:02

"My child is just wired differently, and that's, like,

0:44:020:44:09

"an incredible journey that I am going to go on with him,

0:44:090:44:11

"to work all that out with him."

0:44:110:44:13

'Like all kids, Jaco talks about what job he wants to do

0:44:160:44:19

'when he grows up -

0:44:190:44:21

'at the moment, it's ringing the bell in Cardiff Market -

0:44:210:44:25

'but only a third of people with autism are in employment.

0:44:250:44:29

'There's a new project called Engage To Change

0:44:310:44:33

'that's helping 1,000 young people in Wales with learning disabilities

0:44:330:44:36

'and autism into work.'

0:44:360:44:38

-Hello.

-Rick, hello.

-Are you Gerraint?

-I am.

0:44:400:44:42

-Richard. So, this is where you work, yeah?

-It is, yeah.

0:44:420:44:44

Do you want to come up and have a look?

0:44:440:44:45

-Are you going to show me around?

-Yeah, come on, then.

-Yeah, cool.

0:44:450:44:48

'Gerraint is working at Cardiff-based charity

0:44:480:44:50

'Learning Disability Wales.'

0:44:500:44:52

This is my desk.

0:44:520:44:53

Right.

0:44:530:44:55

-Hiya, everyone. Hi.

-Hi.

-Hello.

-Hi.

0:44:550:44:58

So, are you always here? Are you always sat here?

0:44:580:45:00

I am, yeah. Yeah, this is where I'm put, to be honest.

0:45:000:45:04

What's your official job title here.

0:45:040:45:06

My official job title is administrative officer for

0:45:060:45:09

the Engage To Change project.

0:45:090:45:10

-Administrative officer.

-Officer, yeah.

0:45:100:45:13

-That's very official.

-I know. It is very, yeah.

-Do you get...?

0:45:130:45:16

Is that, like, a buzz?

0:45:160:45:17

-Do you get a buzz out of, like, the job title?

-I do, yeah. Yeah.

0:45:170:45:19

Yeah. One of my responsibilities for the office is doing the post

0:45:190:45:22

for the members of staff.

0:45:220:45:24

-It just comes in...

-Yeah.

0:45:240:45:25

-Some of these have just got "Learning Disability Wales"...

-Yeah.

0:45:250:45:28

..and no staff member.

0:45:280:45:30

So, what I do then is have a look.

0:45:300:45:32

I pick it up and have a look.

0:45:320:45:36

All right, all right...

0:45:360:45:37

-Now, because this is a finance thing...

-Yeah?

0:45:370:45:41

-..it goes to the finance team.

-Right.

0:45:410:45:43

Now, with these, even though it's just to the office,

0:45:440:45:47

-you've still got to stamp it.

-Right. STAMP CLICKS

0:45:470:45:50

-Did you always want to be an admin officer?

-Yeah.

0:45:500:45:52

-Did you?

-I always wanted to be admin.

0:45:520:45:54

This admin, believe it or not, is my dream job.

0:45:540:45:56

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:45:560:45:57

People say, "Oh, my dream job is to win the X Factor

0:45:570:45:59

"or Britain's Got Talent or whatever,"

0:45:590:46:01

but, with me, admin is my life.

0:46:010:46:02

That's how I've always wanted to do admin.

0:46:020:46:04

Why admin? What do you love about it?

0:46:040:46:06

There's so many different bits involved, so you can go from,

0:46:060:46:10

like, doing a letter to a company, you know, for, like,

0:46:100:46:13

fundraising or what have you, and the next minute you could be doing

0:46:130:46:16

a spreadsheet for an amount of people you've got on a project.

0:46:160:46:19

What else do you love about admin?

0:46:190:46:21

Phone-calling. I'm a talker. I'm loud.

0:46:210:46:23

-I love a phone, as you can tell.

-RICHARD LAUGHS

0:46:230:46:27

-PRINTER HUMS

-It's six pages, this action plan.

0:46:270:46:29

Right.

0:46:290:46:30

It's actually doing something that I love doing

0:46:300:46:34

and I want to do until I retire.

0:46:340:46:38

So, you want to do this for life?

0:46:380:46:39

Oh, God, yeah. Yeah.

0:46:390:46:41

It's been... It's been really eventful, being Gerraint's boss.

0:46:430:46:46

He's probably the...the smartest person in the office.

0:46:460:46:48

He always comes to work in a suit.

0:46:480:46:50

He's always got a story to tell.

0:46:500:46:53

I sometimes do have to tell him to stop talking so much...

0:46:530:46:56

-RICHARD LAUGHS

-..because he likes to chat,

0:46:560:46:58

and he likes to banter with his colleagues,

0:46:580:47:00

but he really contributes to...

0:47:000:47:02

to the relaxed and the happy environment

0:47:020:47:05

that we've got in this office.

0:47:050:47:07

So, what would you say to, you know, a company that might say,

0:47:070:47:10

"Look, you know, why should I employ an adult with autism?

0:47:100:47:14

"It would take more time. It would be a drain on resources,

0:47:140:47:18

"you know, when I can just hire somebody of, kind of,

0:47:180:47:20

"normal cognitive ability. Why? Why would I go down that route?"

0:47:200:47:23

What would you say to them?

0:47:230:47:24

People with a learning disability or autism generally would have

0:47:240:47:28

less sick days in work.

0:47:280:47:30

Um...they...

0:47:300:47:33

Generally, once they...

0:47:330:47:34

If they have the proper support in the workplace,

0:47:340:47:36

then they're more likely to stay in the workplace,

0:47:360:47:40

and so the turnover...

0:47:400:47:42

Your staff turnover would be less.

0:47:420:47:44

So, there's a lot of financially viable reasons

0:47:440:47:46

that would be good for businesses.

0:47:460:47:48

Which of your four viewings is it?

0:47:500:47:52

Ah, that.

0:47:550:47:57

And then the rest are actions that we have, and have ongoing.

0:47:570:48:00

What I am today is because of one thing, and that's autism,

0:48:010:48:04

cos, if I didn't have that,

0:48:040:48:05

I wouldn't be as special as I am today.

0:48:050:48:07

-So you're saying that young people should see it as...

-A positive.

0:48:070:48:12

-..a positive, as an opportunity?

-Oh, yeah.

0:48:120:48:15

Autism is a very special thing,

0:48:150:48:17

and whoever has got it should be proud of it.

0:48:170:48:19

Tickets.

0:48:250:48:26

Tickets.

0:48:260:48:27

I've got my phone.

0:48:270:48:29

Money.

0:48:290:48:31

And, no...

0:48:310:48:32

No, my money...

0:48:320:48:34

-You haven't got any money on you, have you?

-No.

0:48:340:48:36

Bank of Dad again.

0:48:360:48:38

Have you got your phone?

0:48:380:48:39

-Yes, I've got my phone in my pocket.

-Yeah?

0:48:390:48:42

-Yes.

-Shall we do this?

0:48:420:48:44

-Yes, let's do it.

-Yes!

0:48:440:48:45

Yes!

0:48:450:48:47

Let's go to the match.

0:48:470:48:49

'It's Wales versus England at the Principality Stadium - a big day.'

0:48:510:48:57

-We don't know who's going to win, do we?

-No.

0:48:570:49:00

It's whoever...

0:49:000:49:01

Whoever plays the best.

0:49:010:49:04

-That's right.

-Yeah.

-That's right.

0:49:040:49:05

-There it is!

-There it is!

0:49:050:49:09

'From the first time I took him to a stadium to now is a massive leap,

0:49:090:49:14

'and I never actually thought that we would be able to do this,

0:49:140:49:17

'growing up with him, you know?

0:49:170:49:19

'So it's... It's amazing.

0:49:200:49:22

'It's great, cos it actually fulfils that, kind of...

0:49:220:49:25

CHEERING '..one of the things you want to do

0:49:250:49:27

'with your son, and that's to take him to the rugby,

0:49:270:49:29

'take him to the football, and...

0:49:290:49:31

'There was a time where I wasn't quite sure whether we were

0:49:310:49:34

'going to be able to do that, and so it's great that we can.

0:49:340:49:37

'It's amazing.'

0:49:370:49:38

SINGING

0:49:380:49:42

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Yay!

-Yay!

0:49:420:49:44

-Wales! Wales!

-Yay! Yay!

0:49:440:49:48

CHEERING

0:49:480:49:50

Come on!

0:49:530:49:55

CHEERING GROWS LOUDER

0:49:550:49:57

Come on!

0:49:570:49:58

CHEERING, YELLING AND APPLAUSE

0:49:590:50:01

And these people who are shouting when I shout, it's just passion.

0:50:040:50:08

They're so happy that Wales are doing so much better...

0:50:080:50:11

That's what's going on, OK?

0:50:130:50:15

It's just passion, remember that.

0:50:150:50:17

Sling your hook!

0:50:170:50:19

OK? Remember that, OK?

0:50:190:50:20

Yeah.

0:50:200:50:21

Remember that, OK, buddy?

0:50:210:50:24

Wales! Wales!

0:50:240:50:25

Listen, do you want to go home, buddy?

0:50:250:50:27

-HE SNIFFLES

-No.

0:50:270:50:29

OK.

0:50:290:50:30

SNIFFLING AND SOBBING

0:50:300:50:32

YELLING

0:50:370:50:39

WHISTLE BLOWS

0:50:410:50:43

Dad, the Wales are going in.

0:50:430:50:46

And we're winning 13-8, OK?

0:50:470:50:50

Can I have a h-h-hot dog?

0:50:500:50:53

Er... Yeah, in a minute.

0:50:530:50:56

Yeah, in a minute.

0:50:560:50:58

So, if Wales are about to score a try, and I get really passionate

0:50:580:51:01

-and I start shouting, are you going to be all right with that?

-Yes.

0:51:010:51:05

Are you sure?

0:51:050:51:06

Yes, yes, yes, be-because I'll go, "Go on," like that.

0:51:060:51:10

-Yeah.

-Are you sure, buddy?

0:51:100:51:12

-Yes.

-OK.

0:51:120:51:14

CHEERING AND YELLING

0:51:140:51:16

-Yes!

-Come on!

0:51:210:51:23

Oh, no, that was England.

0:51:240:51:26

We're not going to win today, I don't think, boy.

0:51:320:51:35

CHEERING

0:51:350:51:38

Well, they lost.

0:51:380:51:39

Yeah, they lost.

0:51:390:51:41

They had a really good first half, but then...

0:51:410:51:44

But then they lost.

0:51:440:51:45

..the second half wasn't so good.

0:51:450:51:47

When he was smaller, I couldn't even laugh.

0:51:500:51:54

I couldn't show any kind of emotion, whether it would be laughing,

0:51:540:51:58

or being passionate about something...

0:51:580:52:00

If I laughed at a friend who was telling me a story,

0:52:000:52:03

he would have that kind of reaction that you saw today,

0:52:030:52:06

but it happened all the time, and I, kind of,

0:52:060:52:10

stopped laughing for about three or four years of my life.

0:52:100:52:13

I just didn't laugh. People...

0:52:130:52:15

People would come round the house, he'd be in our company,

0:52:150:52:18

they'd tell me a funny story and I just wouldn't laugh.

0:52:180:52:21

I'd be like, hmm-hmm-hmm.

0:52:210:52:23

And it was like...

0:52:230:52:24

It must have been...come across so rude, but I, kind of,

0:52:240:52:27

conditioned myself, for a time, not to laugh, and it...

0:52:270:52:31

You know, it's weird, when I think back on it,

0:52:310:52:34

that I didn't laugh for that length of time,

0:52:340:52:36

but he's all right with laughing now.

0:52:360:52:39

What do you think about Wales losing today?

0:52:390:52:42

Because they... Because they lost...

0:52:420:52:44

Yeah. Are you happy or sad?

0:52:440:52:46

Happy.

0:52:460:52:47

RICHARD LAUGHS

0:52:490:52:51

Oh, well.

0:52:520:52:54

I am certainly not happy.

0:52:560:52:58

Huh...

0:53:020:53:03

No, I understand that it makes you sad, but...

0:53:030:53:07

Yeah.

0:53:070:53:08

..you did well to get past it,

0:53:080:53:11

-because, you know, we didn't have to come home.

-Yeah.

0:53:110:53:14

You got yourself together and then you were happy again,

0:53:140:53:17

and that's good that you did that.

0:53:170:53:19

'I constantly worry whether I'm doing the right thing as a parent -

0:53:220:53:25

'how much should I push Jaco?

0:53:250:53:27

'I've spent the last 12 months trying to find answers.

0:53:300:53:33

'I'd read about a young autistic man who uses running to help him

0:53:360:53:39

'cope with the world.'

0:53:390:53:41

Much of my life, I feel like I'm just...

0:53:410:53:43

just about surviving, just about scraping through.

0:53:430:53:45

'He's about to run 30 marathons in 30 days.

0:53:450:53:49

'I've come to meet Shaun and his wife at their home in Merthyr.'

0:53:510:53:54

-Shaun, what's happening?

-Hello.

0:53:540:53:56

-How are you doing, fella?

-Are you all right?

0:53:560:53:58

I'm good, thanks. Nice to meet you again.

0:53:580:54:00

Thanks for having me.

0:54:000:54:02

When did you start running?

0:54:020:54:05

I've always been a runner. I was a 100m sprinter in school.

0:54:050:54:08

I was a winger in football and rugby for a while,

0:54:080:54:11

so running's always played a part.

0:54:110:54:12

So, when were you diagnosed?

0:54:120:54:14

I was diagnosed just over a year ago.

0:54:140:54:16

-How old are you?

-I'm 31.

0:54:180:54:20

Bloody hell.

0:54:200:54:21

Yeah, I was confused for a long time.

0:54:210:54:23

I, kind of, was on a path of self-help before I even knew

0:54:230:54:26

what was wrong, and so I...

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The running had come about, and all that, before I had my diagnosis.

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That just, kind of...

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-SHAUN CLICKS HIS FINGERS

-That was the missing puzzle piece.

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-Is this your wedding day?

-Yes, that's on our wedding day.

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'Shaun and Sarah have been married for two and a half years.'

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So, Sarah, what's it like living with a...

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with a serial marathon runner? SARAH LAUGHS

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Well, a 30-mile runner?

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There's a lot of washing to do.

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How are you feeling about the actual run, like? Are you...?

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-I'm really excited for him to do it.

-Are you?

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Yeah, cos it's something that he's wanted to do for years.

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Before you met Sarah, how was...?

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How was it? Did you...? Were you, like...?

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Were you on your own for a while, then?

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I didn't think marriage meant anything - vows were meaningless.

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I thought, in modern-day life now,

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we don't treat it with the same respect that we would have once,

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and just, "What's the point of getting married?"

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Had you given up on love?

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Yeah, kind of. I...

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I've often wondered, you know, can you truly have love?

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You know, because I struggled to connect with people

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and relate with people,

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and I found, like,

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a lot of relationships I had were really shallow and meaningless.

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Not a lot of women could deal with me.

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A lot of women don't want to know a guy who's a grown man

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who can't drive, works part-time,

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and is having panic attacks and things. I just didn't...

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I assumed it wouldn't happen, you know?

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And this, kind of, came along by...

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Just as it does, doesn't it? It just surprises you.

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I mean, one of the first things I told her is,

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"Are you sure? Because I am hard work."

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I always knew I had issues but I didn't know why.

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Like, so I said, "I'm hard work."

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It didn't bother me, to be honest.

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I just said that everyone's hard work most of the time,

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-so we can't all be the same.

-Yeah.

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So, I didn't think anything of it, really.

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'Four weeks later, and Shaun has run 850 miles

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'of the Welsh coastal path.'

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There he... There he is. Look.

0:56:190:56:21

'I've come to Chepstow Racecourse to see him at the finishing line.'

0:56:210:56:24

CHEERING, WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE

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Yeah!

0:56:270:56:29

Whoo!

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'Shaun's running is extraordinary,

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'but what I really love about Shaun's story

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'is that he found Sarah -

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'someone who's accepted him for who he is.'

0:56:450:56:47

-Yeah!

-Yes!

0:56:530:56:55

Oh... I'm catching you up.

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Jaco is the winner again.

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You beat me fair and square.

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Fair and square...

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And...and, Dad, do you...do you love Gareth Bale?

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I love Gareth Bale.

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He's... He's one of the best players in the world.

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And so, and so, and so...and he loves playing football.

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He definitely loves playing football.

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Then, Dad, well, wh-wh-wh-what should we play next?

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Punchball?

0:57:260:57:27

'Having a child with autism is sometimes like navigating

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'a thick forest without a map or a compass.'

0:57:370:57:40

Wind turbine. Oh, oh, it's stopping now...

0:57:400:57:44

-We're going down.

-Yeah.

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'By spending time with people on the spectrum who are finding

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'their way through life, it's shown me a way through.'

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They're called wind turbines.

0:57:550:57:57

Wind turn-bines?

0:57:570:57:58

-Turbines.

-Turbines?

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Yeah.

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'As a society, we have a long way to go, but I have hope that our

0:58:020:58:07

'understanding and acceptance of autism can only get better.'

0:58:070:58:11

Now, what should we talk about, then?

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We don't have to talk. We don't have to talk.

0:58:130:58:16

-You can just look at them.

-Yeah.

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'Like any parent, the best I can do

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'is surround Jaco with love and support.

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'He still surprises me every day, so I have to aim high.

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'My expectations have to be limitless.'

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