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I'm Richard Mylan, and this is my son Jaco. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
# The lights are off | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
# The gates are closed | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
# Market over, market shut, market closed. # | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
We visit Cardiff Market as often as we can | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
to see it close at five o'clock. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Hey, look, there's the bell. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
We've been over 500 times. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
When we first came here, like, the security guards, they used to, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
you know, give us that kind of odd look, like, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-"What the hell are they finding so interesting?" -Hello, bell. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
I think they thought at first that we were, like, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
scoping the place out | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
to, like, do it over. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Jaco has autism, a neurological condition | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
that makes him see, feel and hear the world | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
differently to most people. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
There she is. Here we go! | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
He loves order and repetition. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
Whoa! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
And he films his life and watches it over and over, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
to help him make sense of a confusing world. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
-Are all these shut? -Yeah, they've shut. -Shut, shut. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
-He's in his element now. -Lights off! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Here we go! She's closing the gates. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
There they go. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
And we'll jump out. And there's me going out. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
When he's come here and he's seen it all happen, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and it's all closed, it's like he can go home happy then, you know? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
It settles him down. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
-Bye-bye, market. -Bye-bye, market. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
See you again soon. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
-Bye-bye, market. -Bye, market. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
-Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Jaco is 11 now, and he loves life. Where are they, man? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
On the hill... | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
He also loves wind farms... | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
..rugby... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
..and washing machines. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Nee-naw, nee-naw, nee-naw... | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
When they told me he was autistic, I was terrified. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Sometimes, I still am, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
mainly about his future. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I'm lucky. I'm an actor. And I feel really grateful for my life. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
I want Jaco to have the same, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
to be fulfilled and independent. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The world isn't set up for people like him. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Will he live without support? Will he ever get a job? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Will he find love? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
How will he fit into this world? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
So I want to meet people who are a bit like Jaco, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
to try to understand what life will be like | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
for my beautiful boy when he is a man. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Today is Jaco's very, very last day of primary school. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Incredible. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
He's come on so much. He's developed massively. Made so many friends. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:32 | |
And now they're all splitting off into different schools. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
It's the end of an era for him today. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-Can I film it? -Yeah. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
When I think back to that first day... | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
He could hardly talk then, you know? | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Lots of people film important moments in their life, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
but if he could, Jaco would literally film everything. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm going to miss his sense of humour. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
He's a real asset to the class. The children absolutely love him. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
He's mischievous, he's full of fun, he's full of happiness. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
Sometimes, he does things that, you know, he shouldn't do, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
he's a little bit mischievous, and the kids, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
they are laughing WITH him, but I'm really aware that, you know, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
if he does that when he's in high school, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
some of the children will laugh at him. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
I'm struggling, actually, to figure out how to deal with that. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
But I think he's almost outgrown us now in junior school. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
The teachers in high school are armed with different skills | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
and will be able to see him through his teenage years. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
He just seems to be really excited about going to big school, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
as he calls it. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Yeah, of course, I'm a little bit apprehensive, but... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
..for the most part, I'm looking forward to it. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Jaco, Jaco. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-Did you get People Of The Year, People Of The Term? -Yeah. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
-Is that your cup there? -Yeah, because I'm the winner. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-You are a winner. -Yeah, I'm a winner. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
SEAGULLS CRY | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
It's estimated that 1 in 100 of us are on the autistic spectrum. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
No-one really knows what causes it. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
And there is no cure. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
There is no such thing as typical autism. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
You could be high or low functioning, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
extremely shy or really outgoing. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
No two people are ever the same. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Nice, this cereal's lovely. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
I just open it up. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
And...and then put my videos on. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
The thing that unites people on the spectrum | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
is they seem to relate to the world differently. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
If I let him, he'd easily sit | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
and watch the same clip for hours on end. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
That's...that's the drama club. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
-SOMETHING BANGS -Whoa! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Here he comes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
-Good morning. -Morning. -Dad, wh-what shall we talk about? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:31 | |
-Did you sleep well? -Yeah, yes. Did you as well? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Yeah, yeah, I slept well. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Jaco's autism can mean ordinary noises are painful... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-Oops! -..and overwhelming. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
I just put my headphones on because Dad is... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
too noisy. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
He also finds the unpredictability of life difficult. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
But every day, he amazes me. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
How he still wants to take part and do all the things other kids do, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
even if he finds something really hard. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
-Let's have a look over here. -Yeah, let's look over here. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-There's a buzzy bee. -No. -It's not going to hurt you. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
HE BREATHES DEEPLY | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-Try to relax. -Yeah. -It's fine. -Yeah. -Don't worry. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
-We go down here. -Yeah. Hold my hand? -It's fine. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
-Yes, don't worry. -Dad, don't worry. -Nothing is going to hurt you. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
It's getting pollen, see? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
And there's nothing to worry about cos they're so busy, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
that's why they call them busy bees. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
You are always, always looking, aren't you? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
So you are always looking for where the flies are, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
where the buzzy bees are. And you are tense, aren't you? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Yes, I'm tense.... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
You're not relaxed, you're quite tense, aren't you? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Yeah, quite tense because...because I'm worried about things. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
Yeah, what are you worried about? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Worried about the flies and the butterflies and the ladybirds | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
and the buzzy bees. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Yeah. It's a lot to worry about, isn't it? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Jaco started wearing noise-cancelling headphones | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
two years ago, and the change in him is incredible. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
He can cope so much more with everyday noises, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
but I worry that it cuts him off from the world. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Do you want to take those headphones off now we're out here? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
So we can talk properly? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Let's have a listen to what we can hear. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-What can you hear? -Can you hear the police car? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
-Yeah, what else? -Hear the birds. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Hear the... Hear the... Hear the aeroplane. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
That's the bikes. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
And we're just going to walk around, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
and then we are going back in the car in a minute. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Jaco has something called echolalia, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
where he repeats what he's heard. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
-Yeah, just relax. -It's all good. -It's all good. -See? -See? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
It's a normal stage in how babies learn to talk. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
But, at 11, Jaco is still processing language. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
The people, like, his teachers and myself, when we talk... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
..he's constantly repeating us. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I think it's about order and pattern, so he hears something... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Yeah, that kind of compulsion to... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
It's a need for order, isn't it? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-Can we go back in the car? -Yeah. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
-Mam. -Yeah? -Mummy! -Mam. Mam. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
Since Jaco was four, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
he's split his time living between my house and Catrin, his mum's. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
That's the hand-dryer. There it is. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
She's putting it on now. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
-Ready? -Ready. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
HAND-DRYER WHIRS | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
Whoa! | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
-And mine as well? And mine? -OK. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
He's had such a thing about the hand-dryer, for years and years. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Like, scared of them, but then wanting to put them on, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
wanting to film them. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
You know, it's been a huge thing for him whenever we go out anywhere. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
So we thought, "Why don't we just have one in the toilet | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
"and maybe it'll help him, you know, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
"get used to them and not be so scared of them." | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
-Isn't it? -Yeah, isn't it? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-Do you think it's a good idea that we got a hand-dryer? -Yeah. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
You're not going to play it all the time, though, are you? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-You're not going to put your hand under it all the time. -OK. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
HANDDRYER WHIRS | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
I'm just worried that he's going to spend his whole time... | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Because another thing that's going to go in there | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
is the washing machine | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
which is another thing that, you know, he loves. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
So I think that will be his favourite room in the house | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
with the hand-dryer and the washing machine. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Jaco, wheeee! | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-Yeah? -Jaco, wheeee! | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
I think Miriam is really good for him. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
It's brought him out of himself. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
You know, she kind of surprises him. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
You know, you can't tell what she's going to do | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
so that's why the headphones have really kicked in | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
because of the noise. She's really noisy. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
-The Tombliboos. -Yes, the Tombliboos. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
He is really sweet with her, and, you know, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
we'll do stuff like that, but if you leave them alone, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
you can hear him kind of trying to tempt her to do something naughty | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
or, you know, he's not an angel. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
He does wind her up as well. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Uh-oh! | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-Yeah, we laugh, don't we? -You're funny, you, aren't you? -I'm funny. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Yeah, you are. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
Can we go feed the birds? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
-OK. -Stand up, then. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Stand up. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-OK. Yeah, we'll stand up. -I'm standing up. -I'm standing up. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-Oh, uh-oh. -Uh-oh. -Oh, my God! | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
WINGS FLAP | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Uh-uh-uh! | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Wow! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Do you think much about his future? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Sometimes it scares me to think about it, and, you know, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
who knows what he's going to be like when he's 15? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I do wonder, is he going to be able to live independently or, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
you know... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
So I'm just trying not to think too much about it. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
And just see how he develops in the next five years, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
and when he hits, like, 14, 15, I'll have to start thinking about it | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
and, you know, making provisions. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
At the moment, I'm just trying to enjoy him, really. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
He could develop, you know, he could not develop, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
or he could develop a lot more in the next five years, so... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
I'm just trying not to panic about it, really. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Which is not like me, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
cos I worry and panic about everything, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
but with him, I'm trying not to. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
-Do your pigeon face for us. -Do your pigeon impression. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
He's always had a thing for pigeons. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
That's when I first noticed | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
that there was something different about him, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
because whenever he was around pigeons, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
he used to get really excited and just hit his face like this. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
And that was the first time | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
I ever noticed that it was with pigeons. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
So it's weird that he still loves them. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Clever boy. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
Say Mum. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
-Mam. -Say Dad. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Dad. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
I was aware, deep down, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
that there might be something wrong with him. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I was away on a job, I was filming up in Yorkshire, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:18 | |
and I came through the door and he was in a high chair. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
So I got my camera out, and I went to take a picture of him | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
and he went like that... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
He put his fingers in his ears. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
And I put the camera down, he took his fingers out. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
I put the camera up again. He did that. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
And then when the flash went off, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
he went like that. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
And that was the first time I noticed... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
..something wasn't quite right, you know? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
I can't actually remember, at any point, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
anyone saying it could be autism. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Maybe I blocked it out, I don't know, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
but I can't seem to remember... | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
..when the word autism was said to me. I really can't. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Jaco's first day of high school has finally come. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
The local authority have laid on a taxi for him and another child. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
So pick up Jaco and pick up another child | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
and take him to his first day of school. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
So I'm going to be like stalker Dad. And follow the taxi. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
I worry about wrapping him up in cotton wool too much. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
But I think that's different to being overprotective. Is it? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Jaco is going to a mainstream | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Welsh-speaking school, Ysgol Glantaf. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
This looks like a good place. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I can see down there. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
I'm like a kind of rubbish spy. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I've always wanted him to be part of the real world as much as possible. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
He'll join mixed ability classes, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
but have support from the specialist resource base. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:16:24 | 0:16:31 | |
THEY SING IN WELSH | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Jaco is bilingual. I've always felt it's important for him. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
It's given him a sense of identity, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
and helps him fit in with the world around him. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -So where are we, Jaco? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
That's... That's me in my big school. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
To look in my friends... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
And there's all my new friends. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
I love them. Because they're great, aren't they? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Yeah. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
And now it's time to go to classroom. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Miss said we are going to classroom. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Today is his first day. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
His first day in uniform, his first day following a timetable. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
First day of being with part of the sort of hurly-burly of the school. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
Hello, new teachers. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
They're very dependent, at the moment, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
on somebody telling them where to go. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
We integrate the children into a real-life school | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
because what we want them to do is to see how well they cope | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
in a situation where they are with other children, cos we want them | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
to be part of the school, we want them to feel a part of the school. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
We aim for him to be as independent as possible, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
so that he can make friends, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
take part in things going on in the school, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
and just to get on with it, really, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
cos that's what life is about, really. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
HE SINGS | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
He's down by the Astroturf. He's releasing a bit of energy. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
He's fine. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Ticky-ticky-ticky... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
JACO LAUGHS | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
I just remember lots of appointments and lots of tests. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Lots of cognitive tests. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
I just remember the whole thing. It just made me angry. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
You just want your child to be normal. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
The first thing that you do is you blame yourself. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
You think, "Have I done something?" | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Right down to the formula that you've used, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
or the food that you feed your child with. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Yeah, I found it difficult to talk about. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
And then, when I did talk about it, when I did open up, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
people didn't really understand. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
Especially my friends, you know. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
My male friends. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
Men are crap in situations like that. You know? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
"You'll be all right, boy." You know? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I remember there was a kind of a moment where I was, like, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
"I've got to learn about this world." | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I just remember kind of starting to soak it all up, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
and I got past that period of feeling sorry for myself, | 0:19:55 | 0:20:02 | |
and I've not looked back from that. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
'I have so many questions about Jaco's autism, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
'I have read everything I can get my hands on, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
'but I still wonder what it would be like to be in Jaco's head.' | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
Thank you all for coming, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
it is a real honour for me to be speaking for you all today. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
And as Henry VIII said to his wife, "I won't keep you for long." | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
'I came across Alex Lowery online. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
'He struggled with speech from an early age, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
'but now makes a living talking about autism.' | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Hello, my name is Alexander Lowery and I have autism. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
I was diagnosed when I was four years old. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
My earliest memory is of when I was three years old. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
I was in a world that was a terrifying place | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
with noises so loud you had to hold your ears to face them. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Going into shops was one of the worst torments | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
you could have on this earth. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
And I'm passionate about raising people's understanding | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and increasing awareness of autistic spectrum conditions. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
-Alex. -Hello. -Hiya. Richard. -Nice to meet you. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
Nice to meet you, Alex. You all right? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
-Yeah, you? -Yeah, good, good. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
'Alex lives at home in Holywell with his mum, dad and two siblings. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
It's nice to get into the warm, it's pretty cold out there. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-Yeah. -Hello. -Hi. Nice to meet you. -You are? -Sylvia. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
-Sylvia. You're Mum, yeah? -Yeah, Mum, yeah. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Yeah, nice to meet you too. Yeah. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
What often comes with being on the autistic spectrum | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
is having particular interests, things that you fixate on | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
and one of them in my case is autism. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I could talk about it for a really long time, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
so just getting the opportunity to talk about autism | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
and, you know, getting to say... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Getting everything I want said to be said, if that makes any sense. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
That's quite rewarding, I would say. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
One of Alex's YouTube videos is about self-stimulatory behaviour | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
or stimming for short. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
He keeps rocking back and forth and clapping his hands. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
I don't think he's all there. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Jaco has always stimmed too, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
he taps his face and clicks bottle tops. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Alex is more physical and uses his whole body. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Yes, I've broken things several times. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
-I've broken things several times, just because I'm... -Have you? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
I don't know, like, at what... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Like, you know, I don't have the control, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
if you know what I mean? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
And, actually, Alex doesn't need an exercise class, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
he keeps himself fit. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
He keeps himself fit, yeah. THEY LAUGH | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
OK, does it make you feel good? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Yeah, I'd say so, and when I'm in... | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
when I'm in those... when I'm doing it, yes. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Alex feels really passionate about raising awareness of stimming | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
and he feels that people... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
You know, that really it's not even a disability, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
the only problem with stimming is society doesn't accept it. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
And, you know, Alex has had people, you know, when he has stimmed | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
in the past, he's had people thinking he was having a fit. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
Sometimes I might be doing the odd twitch where I stim | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and I'm not even noticing it and someone will say, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
"Are you cold? You shivered." And I think, "No, no, I wasn't." | 0:23:15 | 0:23:21 | |
That just shows that even subtle ones people pick up on. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
I think of you take stimming away, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-it's like taking away an operating system. -Yeah. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
And Alex used to use that little string called Freddie | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and he used to say, "It's my power." | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
This is my power, it gives me power for my brain. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Basically, it almost is a way of charging my brain up, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
-if you know what I mean. -Right. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
If I go on a long time without it, I'm, like, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
my thirst for it gets stronger and stronger. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And we all stim. We all do little things. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-I play with my hair or you rock... -Yeah, I do this, lots. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Yeah, or even, I don't know, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
do you ever sit there and count things, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
like, count all those things, you know, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
in your head sometimes when you're bored. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
So that's something that we need to... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-We need society... -We need to accept it. -Yeah. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Do you remember being diagnosed then, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
-if you can remember that far back? -No, no. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
I basically just viewed the world as a very confusing place | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
which I didn't understand at all | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
and it didn't help that I couldn't really... | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
I struggled with my language too, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
but I thought I was speaking just like everybody else, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
but no-one seemed to understand what I was saying. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Alex's language started to come at age, you know, five, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
but it was... There was still a lot of problems | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
and he would go, "But, but, but, but..." | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and then he would get on the floor and have a meltdown | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
with frustration, he was self-harming, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
he was attacking us, he was attacking siblings, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
he was obviously in a terrifying world and it was absolutely awful. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
All I could see in that blackness was Alex as a 15-year-old | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and I was terrified of not being able to look after him, you know. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
And then you start to see, as time goes on, and particularly | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
if you allow, you know, I allowed Alex to follow the interests, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
the things he's good at, instead of worrying about | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
focusing on the things that he struggles with. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
I admired Alex and Sylvia's positive outlook. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
It's so easy to fall down a black hole of worrying about | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
things your kid can't do. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
I absolutely loathe discos entirely. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Alex has come a long way since being a four-year-old who couldn't talk. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
THEY SPEAK WELSH | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
THEY SPEAK WELSH | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Jaco's been at school for six weeks now, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
I'm keen to find out how he's getting on | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
and his teacher's take on how he's developing. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
So, how is he getting on? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Oh, he's doing really well, really pleased with him. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
He does know his way around for the main places, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
he knows his way to the canteen, he knows his way out to the yard, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
he knows his way in from the yard. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
He's usually last coming off the yard, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
but he does talk to the seagulls, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
cos the seagulls around here, as soon as they hear the bell, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
they know to come and pick up whatever's been dropped, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
sandwiches and stuff, so he talks to the seagulls nearly every day. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Does he? What kind of conversations does he have? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
He has chats about one of them being the mummy | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
and one being the daddy | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
and they're coming to have sandwiches. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
And he's... I don't know if he's half afraid, but half likes them, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
but he's talking it through and he's getting himself through, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
-it's quite interesting, actually. -Right. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Now we're getting to know him really well, I think, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
-and he's settled in really well, he's very popular. -Yeah? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
How is he getting on with integrating here? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Because obviously it's a much bigger school. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
He's, again, he's coping really well. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Some of the lessons, I mean, the drama lessons, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
he's more confident and more keen to get up in front of others | 0:27:17 | 0:27:23 | |
and some of them are really quite nervous | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
about standing up in front of people and performing. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
No problem at all. He's quite happy to do that. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
He really enjoys the music lessons as well. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
PE, he's taking part. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
There's nothing really, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
he hasn't stood out as particularly different. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
A couple of children have asked why he wears headphones | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
and we've explained it's because things are a bit | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
-too noisy sometimes, not always and they go, "OK." -Right. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
So, a few people have enquired, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
but there hasn't been any kind of animosity | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
or anything strange at all. He's just kind of slipped in, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
slipped into life, really. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
That's great. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
-It's great that he's getting on so well. -Yeah. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Jaco's settling in so well at school, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
taking it all in his stride. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
But I still worry about | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
what the future holds when he leaves. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
'I've always had reservations about special schools, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
'I don't like the idea of separating kids, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
'because they have different needs, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
'but I've heard about one right on my doorstep in Penarth | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
'that sounds interesting.' | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
-Hello. -Hi, Richard, I'm Ben. -Hi, Ben. Richard, nice to meet you. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
-What's your name? -I'm Jamie. -Jamie, nice to meet you. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
-Would you like to go on a tour? -Yeah, I'd love to go on a tour. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-OK, follow us. -Cool. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Ysgol Y Deri takes kids from three to 19 years old. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
Almost half of its students have autism. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
-Where you can do... -Arts, crafts... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
-What's your name? -This is...? -Richard, my name is Richard. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Richard. This is Richard? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Yes, I'm Richard. Nice to meet you. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
So, arts and crafts in here, yeah? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
How long have you been here? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Well, I've been here for about three years. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
I wasn't diagnosed with my autism until I was 11 years old, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
so, when I went to junior school, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
all the way through I was bullied and then I was transferred over | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
to high school. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
When I had my first six months there, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
I had my arm broken by another student. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Then I got moved on to private school, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
got asked to leave there. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
I moved over here and I've been here ever since. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-Wow. You've been through a lot. -Yeah. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
I was kicked out of school, so... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
How come you were kicked out of school? | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
-Naughty. -Naughty? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-I got bullied as well. -Did you? -Absolutely hated it. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
But since I've been here, I've had loads of friends. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
-Friends with the teachers as well. -Yeah? Are the teachers nice? -Yeah. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
The school has 256 students, with a range of disabilities. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
-So, this is the flat. -Yes. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
So, what's this area like? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
This is, like, the living room area where you can learn | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
about social interactions. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
-It's like a proper little crib, isn't it? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
It's amazing in here, it's absolutely superb, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
it's like I've learnt so much from this room myself. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
Have you? Yeah. What kind of things? | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
I've learnt to make a cup of tea, I've learned to cook, clean... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
What kind of things do you cook in here? | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
-I make toast. -I cooked chicken in there once. -Did you? | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
-Yeah. Roast chicken. -A roast chicken? -Yeah. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
It's absolutely lovely in here. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
It is really nice in here, isn't it? | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
It's quite sort of calm in here as well. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Everything that's in here is like your first kind of steps | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
-towards independence. -Yes. -Yeah? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
It's been a long journey, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
but I feel I'm going to make something of my life. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
Yeah? I'm sure you will. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Are you allowed to sort of, you know, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
venture out on your own or go to shops or anything? | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
-I've got no sense of danger, so... -You don't? | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
I've got to be out with an adult. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
He can come out with me | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
and I can teach him about the dangers of the road. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Cos learning things from an autistic's point of view | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
makes it so much easier for that other autistic person to learn. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
Right. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
We understand where everyone's coming from in this school. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
That makes sense, I mean, obviously, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
kind of unique individuals can understand each other better. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
It's a massive school, isn't it? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
-Yeah. -I think it's too big. I'm out of breath just walking up here. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
Wow, it's like a proper little salon. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
-Hello. There's a nail bar going on here. -Yeah. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
-After you, Rich. -Thank you very much. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
-So, have you enjoyed your tour of the school so far? -I'm loving it. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
I'm loving it. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:26 | |
Class sizes are much smaller than regular schools | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
and the curriculum focuses on life skills | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
as much as academic achievement. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
So, this is our careers corner. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-This is the careers corner. -This is the careers corner, yes. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
And I think part of our sessions here are about kind of | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
managing hopes, dreams and expectations | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
and, you know, what's realistic for jobs. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
That can be tricky, I guess. So how do you do that? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
We have placements in school, but also when they get to sixth form, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
they'll go out on an external placement. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Then it's trying to just show them what's realistic, really | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Most of the students do want to kind of end up working or...? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Yeah, I think the majority have all kind of got a plan for the future, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
most of them do want to go out to work, the majority will want | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
to go to college first and develop their skills there. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
They've all got the capability to go on and learn further, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
so we try and encourage that before employment. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
-So, this is the playground. -It's pretty foggy out here today. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
Do you think that all children with special needs | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
should go to a special needs school? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
People who have the same sort of, like, differences as me, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
should come to schools like this, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
because it's a coping situation, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
whereas if they went to a mainstream school, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
they wouldn't cope in that situation. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Does this place feel like a safe place to you? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
-This school? -Yeah. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
-Do you look forward to coming here? -I love it. -Do you? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
I love this school. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:55 | |
Thanks a lot, guys, bye-bye. Bye. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Wow. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
That place is amazing. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
I have always wanted Jaco to be part of the real world | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
and to learn about the world around him, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
but that is the real world in there, you know? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
That wasn't a bubble mentality in there, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
they're not being sort of sheltered from the big, bad world, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
you know, they're being equipped and they're gaining the tools | 0:34:27 | 0:34:33 | |
to be able to survive and they're doing it | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
in a really kind of forward-thinking, inclusive way. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
Yeah. I don't see that place as a bubble, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
I thought I would, but I don't. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
I don't. I thought it was really impressive in there. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
So, remember? | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
One, two... | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
-That's it. -..three. -Three, very good. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-One, two... -Hold in the middle. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
..two, three. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Very good. So, why are we doing these jobs? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
Because learn to...learn to... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
learn to be a bigger me. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Yeah, when you're big, what will happen if you learn all these jobs | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and you can do them properly? | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
Because I'm going to...have my own house. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Yeah, if you learn to do these jobs really, really well, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-one day, you might be able to have your own house... -Yeah. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
..and put your own clothes in the washing machine, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
have your own washing machine. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
-A black washing machine. -You want a black one, I know. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
-Yeah. -And you can cook your own food. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
-Yeah. -That would be amazing, wouldn't it? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
It means that you can look after yourself and it's really important | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
for people to be able to look after themselves, yeah? | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
'I'm thinking about his adult life now, but I learnt a few years back | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
'that you've got to plan ahead, you've got to think ahead.' | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
And then we put them...in the... in the washing machine. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
Then we put them in the cupboard. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
'It takes so long for him to grasp something, but once he does, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
'he can do it really well.' | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
-Into the cupboard. -Yeah. There we go. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-And we put the washing on. -Yeah. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
I've got to think about his teenage years now | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
when he's sort of 10, 11, 12. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
It's very fast. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
It's super-duper fast. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
And then, when he's in his mid-teens, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
I'll be thinking about his early adult life. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
It's slowing down. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
'Independence has always been important to me. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
'I left home in Swansea at 12 years old to go to dance school. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
'I have no idea where Jaco will end up living | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
'and how much support he will need. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
'But there are places that can help provide the stepping stones | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
'to an independent life.' | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Coleg Elidyr, near Llandovery | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
is the only further education college in Wales to have received | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
special recognition from the National Autistic Society. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Wow, it's great in here. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
This is the least likely classroom you're ever going to see. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
The college is independent, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
but students that come here are local authority funded. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
It takes people up to 25 years old and provides supported accommodation | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
nearby for when they graduate. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Life skills and learning through craft are a key part | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
of its philosophy. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
-Hello. -Hello. You're not Ed. -Ed. -Oh, this is Ed. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
'I'm meeting 21-year-old Ed, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
'who's been here for two years, and his mum, Isabel, who is visiting.' | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Thank you very much. Nice to meet you, Ed. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Shall we give Richard a tour of the house | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
and maybe show him where your room is, if you're happy with that? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Yes. -That OK? -Yes. -Thank you, Ed, thank you very much. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Is this where you eat your food? I'm guessing. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
So this is your room. Got it. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
-Ta-da! -Wow, it's a big room. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Is that your exercise bike? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
-Yeah. -Wow. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
What was the big bike ride you did last year, Ed, can you remember? | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
-Last year - Tenby. -Yeah, Cardiff to Tenby. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
-Cardiff to Tenby. -Cardiff to Tenby?! | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
-And you cycled... -100 miles. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
You cycled that whole way? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
It was a charity ride. Big charity ride in Cardiff. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
That's amazing one-leg cycling. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
What's this here? Is this your planner, your diary? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
What do you do on a Monday? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
ICT suite, careers. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
-Yeah, careers. -Careers. -What do you do on a Tuesday? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Craft, art and design for mosaic in the whole classroom. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
And tell Richard where you go on a Wednesday morning, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
-because you like that, don't you? -Co-operative shop. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
Yeah. Tell him you work in the Co-operative shop. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-You work... I've been... -Stacking the shelves. -Wow. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
What's Ed playing? Is he playing solitaire? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Yeah, yeah, solitaire. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
He's doing that really quick. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Yeah, he's good at it. He is good at maths, actually, yeah. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
He's got a thing about sort of birthdays. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Ed, do you want to ask Richard his birthday? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
What's your birthday, Richard? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
-My date of birth or just my...? -Just your date of birth, yeah. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
-24th of November... -19...? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
-'72. -24th of November 1970... | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
-Two. -Two is... | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Friday. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
Were you born on a Friday? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Possibly, you were. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
-That's amazing. -Just stare and smile. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
-That's amazing. -Yeah. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
-What, he can work out the day? -Yeah, it's some formula. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
None of us quite know how he does it, but he usually is right. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
He's usually right, you know. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
-Ed, that's... -That's his thing. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
-It's his thing. -That's really very impressive. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
-I'm really impressed by that. -Yes. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
-That's really cool. -Really impressive. -Yeah. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
-Shall we go downstairs for some lunch? -Yeah. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
Yeah, let's do that. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
-Hello! -Hello! | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
-He just seems, like, really settled. -Well, he's really settled here. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
He is settled. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
I never, ever thought that he would be residential away from us, really. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:45 | |
He's a long way from home, and he doesn't have great language, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
and he's not great on the telephone, so, actually, it's... | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
It was a huge leap of trust to have him here. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
-You do have to let your kids go, don't you? -You do. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
You have to let them grow up. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
You have to let them be independent, especially kids like Ed, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
and probably Jaco. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
You know, the temptation to, sort of, keep them at home, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
and wrap them in cotton wool, and keep time standing still, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
when you can't do it, can you? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Knowing he's happy here and he's safe here | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
has been a really, really big part of it. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
He's achieved so much more than we ever thought he would, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
and he's still continuing to achieve. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Because I know that my son really, kind of, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
responds well to having those kind of responsibilities, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
with, you know... | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-ED WHINES -Shh, shh, shh. -..being able to do things for himself, you know? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
-No, he... -He gets a real kick out of that. -Yeah, they do. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
-They really do. I think it makes a big difference, doesn't it? -Yeah. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
-You love it at Coleg, don't you? -Yeah. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
-Yeah, and your friends, living with your friends? -Yeah. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
What's your favourite lesson? | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
Er, woodwork. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
-Yeah, that's what you told me this morning. -Woodwork? -Yeah. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Woodwork with Lewis, isn't it? -Yeah. -Yeah. -Do you know...? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Do you remember what you're making in woodwork at the moment? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
-Table. -Wow. Wow. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-They do - they make the most incredible things. -Yeah. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Can I ask you, have you noticed a difference in him, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
and what are those differences since he's been coming here? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
He's got much more self-confidence. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
He's got much more, um... | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
He... His language is better. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
He is more interactive. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
He tries harder to have relationships and friendships. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
He's calmer. You know, somehow, he's calmer. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Thank you, Richard. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
Thank you. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
Thank you for showing me round, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
-and thank you for showing me your room and your bike... -Yes. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
-..and thank you for telling me I was born on a Friday. -Yes. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
That's amazing. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
It makes me nervous, thinking about Jaco living that far away, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
and how he would cope without all of his favourite things in Cardiff - | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
the market, the train station, and the hustle and bustle. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
JACO BLOWS A RASPBERRY | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
I knew pretty early on that Jaco had an incredible amount of joy | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
in him, you know? That... That was... | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
That's always been there. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
And that he really loved life, and that all I... | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
all I needed to do was work out what life on his terms was | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
and live it with him. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
I know that some people look at me and think, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:36 | |
"You're deluded about your son." | 0:43:36 | 0:43:37 | |
You know? I know people have thought that. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
# Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba... # | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
You cannot put a limit on any child, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
especially a child with special needs - | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
you cannot. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:49 | |
Like I always say, it's like... It's... | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
I'm being led by the hand by my child, not the other way around. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
All right, once you get your head around that, you start to think, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
"My child is just wired differently, and that's, like, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:09 | |
"an incredible journey that I am going to go on with him, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
"to work all that out with him." | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
'Like all kids, Jaco talks about what job he wants to do | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
'when he grows up - | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
'at the moment, it's ringing the bell in Cardiff Market - | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
'but only a third of people with autism are in employment. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
'There's a new project called Engage To Change | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
'that's helping 1,000 young people in Wales with learning disabilities | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
'and autism into work.' | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
-Hello. -Rick, hello. -Are you Gerraint? -I am. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
-Richard. So, this is where you work, yeah? -It is, yeah. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Do you want to come up and have a look? | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
-Are you going to show me around? -Yeah, come on, then. -Yeah, cool. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
'Gerraint is working at Cardiff-based charity | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
'Learning Disability Wales.' | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
This is my desk. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:53 | |
Right. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
-Hiya, everyone. Hi. -Hi. -Hello. -Hi. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
So, are you always here? Are you always sat here? | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
I am, yeah. Yeah, this is where I'm put, to be honest. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
What's your official job title here. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
My official job title is administrative officer for | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
the Engage To Change project. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
-Administrative officer. -Officer, yeah. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
-That's very official. -I know. It is very, yeah. -Do you get...? | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
Is that, like, a buzz? | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
-Do you get a buzz out of, like, the job title? -I do, yeah. Yeah. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
Yeah. One of my responsibilities for the office is doing the post | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
for the members of staff. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
-It just comes in... -Yeah. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:25 | |
-Some of these have just got "Learning Disability Wales"... -Yeah. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
..and no staff member. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
So, what I do then is have a look. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
I pick it up and have a look. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
All right, all right... | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
-Now, because this is a finance thing... -Yeah? | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
-..it goes to the finance team. -Right. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Now, with these, even though it's just to the office, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
-you've still got to stamp it. -Right. STAMP CLICKS | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
-Did you always want to be an admin officer? -Yeah. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
-Did you? -I always wanted to be admin. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
This admin, believe it or not, is my dream job. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:57 | |
People say, "Oh, my dream job is to win the X Factor | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
"or Britain's Got Talent or whatever," | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
but, with me, admin is my life. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
That's how I've always wanted to do admin. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
Why admin? What do you love about it? | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
There's so many different bits involved, so you can go from, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
like, doing a letter to a company, you know, for, like, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
fundraising or what have you, and the next minute you could be doing | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
a spreadsheet for an amount of people you've got on a project. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
What else do you love about admin? | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
Phone-calling. I'm a talker. I'm loud. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
-I love a phone, as you can tell. -RICHARD LAUGHS | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
-PRINTER HUMS -It's six pages, this action plan. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Right. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
It's actually doing something that I love doing | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
and I want to do until I retire. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
So, you want to do this for life? | 0:46:38 | 0:46:39 | |
Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
It's been... It's been really eventful, being Gerraint's boss. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
He's probably the...the smartest person in the office. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
He always comes to work in a suit. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
He's always got a story to tell. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
I sometimes do have to tell him to stop talking so much... | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
-RICHARD LAUGHS -..because he likes to chat, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
and he likes to banter with his colleagues, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
but he really contributes to... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
to the relaxed and the happy environment | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
that we've got in this office. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
So, what would you say to, you know, a company that might say, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
"Look, you know, why should I employ an adult with autism? | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
"It would take more time. It would be a drain on resources, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
"you know, when I can just hire somebody of, kind of, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
"normal cognitive ability. Why? Why would I go down that route?" | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
What would you say to them? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:24 | |
People with a learning disability or autism generally would have | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
less sick days in work. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Um...they... | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Generally, once they... | 0:47:33 | 0:47:34 | |
If they have the proper support in the workplace, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
then they're more likely to stay in the workplace, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
and so the turnover... | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Your staff turnover would be less. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
So, there's a lot of financially viable reasons | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
that would be good for businesses. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
Which of your four viewings is it? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
Ah, that. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
And then the rest are actions that we have, and have ongoing. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
What I am today is because of one thing, and that's autism, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
cos, if I didn't have that, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:05 | |
I wouldn't be as special as I am today. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
-So you're saying that young people should see it as... -A positive. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
-..a positive, as an opportunity? -Oh, yeah. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Autism is a very special thing, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
and whoever has got it should be proud of it. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
Tickets. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
Tickets. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:27 | |
I've got my phone. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Money. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
And, no... | 0:48:31 | 0:48:32 | |
No, my money... | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
-You haven't got any money on you, have you? -No. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
Bank of Dad again. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
Have you got your phone? | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
-Yes, I've got my phone in my pocket. -Yeah? | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
-Yes. -Shall we do this? | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
-Yes, let's do it. -Yes! | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
Yes! | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
Let's go to the match. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
'It's Wales versus England at the Principality Stadium - a big day.' | 0:48:51 | 0:48:57 | |
-We don't know who's going to win, do we? -No. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
It's whoever... | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
Whoever plays the best. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
-That's right. -Yeah. -That's right. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:05 | |
-There it is! -There it is! | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
'From the first time I took him to a stadium to now is a massive leap, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
'and I never actually thought that we would be able to do this, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
'growing up with him, you know? | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
'So it's... It's amazing. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
'It's great, cos it actually fulfils that, kind of... | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
CHEERING '..one of the things you want to do | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
'with your son, and that's to take him to the rugby, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
'take him to the football, and... | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
'There was a time where I wasn't quite sure whether we were | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
'going to be able to do that, and so it's great that we can. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
'It's amazing.' | 0:49:37 | 0:49:38 | |
SINGING | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Yay! -Yay! | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
-Wales! Wales! -Yay! Yay! | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
CHEERING | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
Come on! | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
CHEERING GROWS LOUDER | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Come on! | 0:49:57 | 0:49:58 | |
CHEERING, YELLING AND APPLAUSE | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
And these people who are shouting when I shout, it's just passion. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
They're so happy that Wales are doing so much better... | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
That's what's going on, OK? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
It's just passion, remember that. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
Sling your hook! | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
OK? Remember that, OK? | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
Yeah. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
Remember that, OK, buddy? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
Wales! Wales! | 0:50:24 | 0:50:25 | |
Listen, do you want to go home, buddy? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
-HE SNIFFLES -No. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
OK. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:30 | |
SNIFFLING AND SOBBING | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
YELLING | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
Dad, the Wales are going in. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
And we're winning 13-8, OK? | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Can I have a h-h-hot dog? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
Er... Yeah, in a minute. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
Yeah, in a minute. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
So, if Wales are about to score a try, and I get really passionate | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
-and I start shouting, are you going to be all right with that? -Yes. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
Are you sure? | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
Yes, yes, yes, be-because I'll go, "Go on," like that. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
-Yeah. -Are you sure, buddy? | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
-Yes. -OK. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
CHEERING AND YELLING | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
-Yes! -Come on! | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Oh, no, that was England. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
We're not going to win today, I don't think, boy. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
CHEERING | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Well, they lost. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:39 | |
Yeah, they lost. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
They had a really good first half, but then... | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
But then they lost. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
..the second half wasn't so good. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
When he was smaller, I couldn't even laugh. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
I couldn't show any kind of emotion, whether it would be laughing, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
or being passionate about something... | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
If I laughed at a friend who was telling me a story, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
he would have that kind of reaction that you saw today, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
but it happened all the time, and I, kind of, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
stopped laughing for about three or four years of my life. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
I just didn't laugh. People... | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
People would come round the house, he'd be in our company, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
they'd tell me a funny story and I just wouldn't laugh. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
I'd be like, hmm-hmm-hmm. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
And it was like... | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
It must have been...come across so rude, but I, kind of, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
conditioned myself, for a time, not to laugh, and it... | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
You know, it's weird, when I think back on it, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
that I didn't laugh for that length of time, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
but he's all right with laughing now. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
What do you think about Wales losing today? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
Because they... Because they lost... | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
Yeah. Are you happy or sad? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
Happy. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
RICHARD LAUGHS | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
Oh, well. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
I am certainly not happy. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
Huh... | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
No, I understand that it makes you sad, but... | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:08 | |
..you did well to get past it, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
-because, you know, we didn't have to come home. -Yeah. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
You got yourself together and then you were happy again, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
and that's good that you did that. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
'I constantly worry whether I'm doing the right thing as a parent - | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
'how much should I push Jaco? | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
'I've spent the last 12 months trying to find answers. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
'I'd read about a young autistic man who uses running to help him | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
'cope with the world.' | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Much of my life, I feel like I'm just... | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
just about surviving, just about scraping through. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
'He's about to run 30 marathons in 30 days. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
'I've come to meet Shaun and his wife at their home in Merthyr.' | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
-Shaun, what's happening? -Hello. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
-How are you doing, fella? -Are you all right? | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
I'm good, thanks. Nice to meet you again. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
Thanks for having me. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
When did you start running? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
I've always been a runner. I was a 100m sprinter in school. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
I was a winger in football and rugby for a while, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
so running's always played a part. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
So, when were you diagnosed? | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
I was diagnosed just over a year ago. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
-How old are you? -I'm 31. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
Bloody hell. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:21 | |
Yeah, I was confused for a long time. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
I, kind of, was on a path of self-help before I even knew | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
what was wrong, and so I... | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
The running had come about, and all that, before I had my diagnosis. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
That just, kind of... | 0:54:31 | 0:54:32 | |
-SHAUN CLICKS HIS FINGERS -That was the missing puzzle piece. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
-Is this your wedding day? -Yes, that's on our wedding day. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
'Shaun and Sarah have been married for two and a half years.' | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
So, Sarah, what's it like living with a... | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
with a serial marathon runner? SARAH LAUGHS | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
Well, a 30-mile runner? | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
There's a lot of washing to do. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
How are you feeling about the actual run, like? Are you...? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
-I'm really excited for him to do it. -Are you? | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Yeah, cos it's something that he's wanted to do for years. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
Before you met Sarah, how was...? | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
How was it? Did you...? Were you, like...? | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Were you on your own for a while, then? | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
I didn't think marriage meant anything - vows were meaningless. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
I thought, in modern-day life now, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
we don't treat it with the same respect that we would have once, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
and just, "What's the point of getting married?" | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
Had you given up on love? | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
Yeah, kind of. I... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
I've often wondered, you know, can you truly have love? | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
You know, because I struggled to connect with people | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
and relate with people, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:33 | |
and I found, like, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
a lot of relationships I had were really shallow and meaningless. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
Not a lot of women could deal with me. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
A lot of women don't want to know a guy who's a grown man | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
who can't drive, works part-time, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
and is having panic attacks and things. I just didn't... | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
I assumed it wouldn't happen, you know? | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
And this, kind of, came along by... | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
Just as it does, doesn't it? It just surprises you. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
I mean, one of the first things I told her is, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
"Are you sure? Because I am hard work." | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
I always knew I had issues but I didn't know why. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
Like, so I said, "I'm hard work." | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
It didn't bother me, to be honest. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:00 | |
I just said that everyone's hard work most of the time, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
-so we can't all be the same. -Yeah. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
So, I didn't think anything of it, really. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
'Four weeks later, and Shaun has run 850 miles | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
'of the Welsh coastal path.' | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
There he... There he is. Look. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
'I've come to Chepstow Racecourse to see him at the finishing line.' | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
CHEERING, WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Yeah! | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Whoo! | 0:56:29 | 0:56:30 | |
'Shaun's running is extraordinary, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
'but what I really love about Shaun's story | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
'is that he found Sarah - | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
'someone who's accepted him for who he is.' | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
-Yeah! -Yes! | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
Oh... I'm catching you up. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
Jaco is the winner again. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
You beat me fair and square. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
Fair and square... | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
And...and, Dad, do you...do you love Gareth Bale? | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
I love Gareth Bale. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
He's... He's one of the best players in the world. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
And so, and so, and so...and he loves playing football. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
He definitely loves playing football. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Then, Dad, well, wh-wh-wh-what should we play next? | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
Punchball? | 0:57:26 | 0:57:27 | |
'Having a child with autism is sometimes like navigating | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
'a thick forest without a map or a compass.' | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
Wind turbine. Oh, oh, it's stopping now... | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
-We're going down. -Yeah. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
'By spending time with people on the spectrum who are finding | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
'their way through life, it's shown me a way through.' | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
They're called wind turbines. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
Wind turn-bines? | 0:57:57 | 0:57:58 | |
-Turbines. -Turbines? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
'As a society, we have a long way to go, but I have hope that our | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
'understanding and acceptance of autism can only get better.' | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
Now, what should we talk about, then? | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
We don't have to talk. We don't have to talk. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
-You can just look at them. -Yeah. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
'Like any parent, the best I can do | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
'is surround Jaco with love and support. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
'He still surprises me every day, so I have to aim high. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:32 | |
'My expectations have to be limitless.' | 0:58:32 | 0:58:34 |