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No matter where you go, you're always going to see smackheads. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Rob off their own fucking nans. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
The stigma runs right across society, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
even into the recovery community. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Another one there. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
If I had carried on, I would have found hundreds. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I got pretty much one of these in every room. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
People take the law into their own hands. It's just part of life. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
-Is it, though? -For me, yeah. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
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It's Saturday night in Manchester, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and I'm on my way to meet a group of men | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
who say they have had enough of heroin users in their area. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
And they want to tell me exactly what they are doing about it. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Apparently, their actions are so extreme | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
that they're breaking the law... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
..and they are very, very cautious not to have their faces shown. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
What's it like, living round here? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
A dive. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
It is - it's full of smackheads, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
there's no jobs, there is nothing for people to do. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Do you think, from what you guys see, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
is heroin use in this area on the increase or decrease? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Increase, definitely. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:29 | |
You can see them doing it in the streets when you are walking past. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
They come out and leave needles everywhere. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Once they come up, they're just, fucking...just... | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
"Eurgh, eurgh..." and that's it, they're off. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Then it becomes your responsibility to try and clean them up. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
And did you ever report any of this to the council or the authorities, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
to clean them up? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Yeah, but they don't do... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
All they tell you to do is put it in a container | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
and take it to your local pharmacy, where they can dispose of it. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
The council won't come out just to move one needle. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
They'd not come out if you found a bunch of needles here on the floor. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
I don't want my kid growing up around that shit. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Councils state they will pick up any reported needles within the day, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
but these men say they have grown so sick of the ongoing situation, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
they decided to sort it out themselves. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
But you guys don't just clean up the needles, do you? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
You clean up the users, too. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
-Yeah. -If we need to use violence, we'll use violence. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Simple as that. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
Kick the fuck out of them. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Learn them a lesson, and more often than not, they won't come back. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
But is that not an extremely violent way to go about it? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Doesn't matter, it is the only way you can get rid of them. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
None of them will ever ring the police, though. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
They're drug dealers, they take drugs. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
They defend their violence | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
by telling me it's all to protect their turf. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
So, in some ways, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
do you guys just see yourselves as extreme neighbourhood watch? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Pretty much, yes. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
We live on the streets, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
so we want it to be a nice place to live for our children. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And do you guys use drugs yourselves? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
I smoke weed. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
You smoke weed. What about you guys? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-I take coke. -You take coke? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
I do as well. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
Do you see it as being a bit hypocritical? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
No, not really. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
Because heroin and cocaine | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
are completely and utter different drugs. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
They will have to go and rob people and businesses to feed their habit, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
we can afford to pay to buy a little gram here and there at the weekend. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
I'm introduced to other members of their group... | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
..and it becomes obvious that some of them | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
aren't just using drugs recreationally. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
These two are quick to boast about their business dealing coke. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
How much money do you reckon you can make a day? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Pfft... Varies, from £100-£300, to anything - depends on the day. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:49 | |
It is not addictive, it's just fucking... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-It's the money that's addictive. -Yeah, yeah, it's the dough. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Do you want to get away from it? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
Yes, of course I do. I've got a family and that - | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
but at the minute, it's money and it's where I am at. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
It's living the life that I am living. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
But not forever, not forever. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
They also share the same views on heroin users | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
and reveal some shocking violent behaviour against the addicts. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
We've had run-ins where we had needles found, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
so we've fucking been and seen them, give them a good hiding, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
stabbed them a few times with their own needles, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
the dirty little bastards. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Why did you stab them with their needles? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Because they were throwing it over people's back gardens, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
that have got kids that play in the back gardens and things. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
It is not acceptable, is it? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
But yet, you sell sniff. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Yeah, I know, but you don't get people throwing sniff | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
over someone's back garden, because they are not that stupid, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
it costs too much. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
They'd rather sniff it themself. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Start throwing sniff over someone's back garden, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I'll shake their fucking hand. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
But you haven't got a problem with sniff? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
No, have I fuck. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Have you ever seen sniff users become crack users? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Yeah, once or twice. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
And then what happens when they become crack users? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Crackheads, aren't they?! -HE LAUGHS | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Fuckin' hell. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
In their world, there is a definite drug hierarchy | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
that puts coke users at the top and heroin users right at the bottom. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
It also allows them to justify their illegal actions. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
This morning, I'm going to go and meet with one of the lads | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
and take him up on his offer of looking at some of the problem areas | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
where we might find some needles. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
I mean, generally, what's this land used for? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Now it's just wasteland until they develop it. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
A lot of people use it for walking their dogs and stuff. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
But again, at night-time, you have got the smackheads. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
So what have you got there? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-Wow. -That is a new one, that, that's recent. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Just bending that over so my dog doesn't... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
or any other dogs don't get stabbed by it. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Do kids play up here? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Yeah, quite a few kids play up here. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
They mainly play on the hill, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
because we try and stop them coming round here. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
He tells me that heroin users often camp out in this field, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
and when the group find them, they want them out immediately. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
We come over to them and say, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
"Get off the field, you've got ten minutes to go, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
"or we're coming back." | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
We come back ten minutes later and they were still here, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
so we just battered them and sent them on their way. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Do you think it's necessary, that level of violence? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
If you had kids, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
would you like them to see someone digging smack in front of them? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
This is a place we set on fire, again, if you look here - | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
there's hundreds of them around here. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
More here, look, needles out on show. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
You burnt them out of here? | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
Yeah, got a load of flammable liquid and set it all on fire. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:03 | |
One of me friends filmed it. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
Right, so that is right here. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Yeah, and then the flame, there, we set it on fire. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
'No more smackheads.' | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
-What did you say then? -We said, "No more smackheads." | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
I just moved a bit of that, then, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
and could have stabbed myself on that. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-Another one there. -Oh, yeah. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
We have probably collected about 30 | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
in the time we have had a quick walk around the field. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
If I had carried on searching through all that, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
I would have had hundreds. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
I don't want to be holding them, to be honest. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
What I'll do, I'll put them all in this shoe | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
and put them in the fire later. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
The quantity of needles | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
do point to a vast number of addicts in the area, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and I wonder if he has ever thought about or tried to understand | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
the situation of the people who leave them behind. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
If someone is suffering with an addiction, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
what are your thoughts on that? | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Do you feel empathy for them? Do you feel sympathy? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I don't feel sorry for smackheads, cos it's their own choice, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
it is their own choice in life. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
They choose to inject themselves with this. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
But do you think, perhaps, life can... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
..bring it upon you, you lose opportunities, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
anyone can become a heroin addict? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
No matter how hard life gets, I would never turn to this. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Do you know anyone who has become a heroin addict? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
No. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
And if any of my mates started on heroin and smacking up, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
then they would just have the bloody shit kicked out of them. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Cos it's disgusting, it is disgusting, I don't associate... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
I don't associate with smackheads and stuff like that. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Even if your own father became a heroin addict? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
If my dad became a heroin addict, I would stab him. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
No two ways about that. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
It is a zero tolerance approach. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
One which he adopts at home as well. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
He seems to have reason to worry about violent break-ins | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
and he shows me an arsenal of weapons he keeps to defend himself. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
I've got pretty much one of these in every room. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
That's quite a collection. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
I've got some more in there. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
-You've got some more? -Yeah. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
You've got a knuckle-duster thing there... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
I will stash them in the corner of the room like that, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
downstairs, upstairs, whatever. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
If I hear someone coming through my front door, just run down, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
grab that and go down with it. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
So people having weapons in their house has become the norm for you? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
I've always seen it. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
I never seen it when I was at home, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
but at mates' houses with shotguns and all that sort of stuff, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
hid in corners and people taking the law into their own hands, you know. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
I think it's a very lack of faith in the police, just part of life. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
-Is it, though? -For me, yeah. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
-Wow. -I'll show you that one. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
However they justify it though, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
he's part of a violent group who target heroin users. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
People already criminalised and stigmatised by their addiction. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
There are just under 300,000 heroin and crack cocaine users in England | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
and those aged 40 and above now make up the largest number of addicts. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
At a soup kitchen, I meet 47-year-old Darren. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
He tells me he had been using heroin for 24 years | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
and was recently assaulted. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
I understand you got attacked? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
-Yeah. -And what happened? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
What's happened, when I'd been stood on the front of this pub, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
he'd seen somebody come out to me and then he's come running over. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
Oh, my goodness, so right in your lungs, there. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Yeah, it's punctured me lung and me liver, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
I was in hospital for five days. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
He knows that I probably won't report it. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-Why, though? -Because it's... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
I'm using drugs. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
I don't want to... Do you know what I mean? | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
..be blowing it up because he tried to attack me. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Tell me a bit about the stigma over the years. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
It weren't so much then, because it was all shush. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
But as it has progressed, it's more and more on the scene now, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
the last ten, 12, 15 years. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
It is horrible, walking down the street | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
and you get young kids saying, "Smackhead," you know. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
It makes you feel like that, you know what I mean? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
I just put my hood up and carry on walking. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Not all people, or what they call junkies, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
go out and drop needles in the street. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
People have got consciences, do you know what I mean? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
People will do things right. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Once you've seen one person do it, they label everybody the same. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
The majority of people who inject heroin are good people, you know. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
The point is, you get dragged down because you're taking drugs | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and you have to do stupid things to get them. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
They don't really have a clue what's going on in my life. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
It's a hard life. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
Pete, an ex-heroin user, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
knows too well the hardships of being an addict, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and recently set up a support group | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
to help people reintegrate into society. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
He introduces me to Steve, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
who is currently in treatment for addiction. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Why do you think society has this view of heroin users? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
I'll tell you why, cos you take a few case studies, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
a few of the darkest examples, and hold that up | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
as a means to frighten people away from it. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Drug addicts stigmatise other drug addicts, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
so I've come into contact with people who say, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
"I am addicted to cocaine, but I'm not addicted to heroin." | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
So it's like, even within addictions, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
heroin is right at the bottom, so... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
..the stigma runs right across society, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
even into the recovery community. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
It is because society sees... associates heroin with needles. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
I mean, how tough is it, if you are in the state of addiction, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
are you responsible to pick up your needles? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Or is there a bigger issue here? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
A bigger issue. That's a minority, again. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
Most of the places that you will see... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
And it's not right, to have used needles near kids' parks | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
and blah, blah, blah. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
But the majority of that will be, and I'm not stigmatising... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
homeless people, but they haven't got a roof over their heads | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
to go and use their opiates. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
Do you think that heroin users have reported | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
crimes that have happened to them? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Heroin users, just by using the drug, it's a criminal act. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Society doesn't listen to them anyway, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
so why would a police officer? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
In all my time being with an addiction, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I've never seen anybody that has been... | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
had a crime committed against them go and report it. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
So it's really no surprise that | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
the anonymous group I met earlier remain unpunished. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
So the lads I've met with are pretty extreme, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
it's obvious they have very extreme views, I think, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
a lot more than society, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
but I do think society holds a grudge against the heroin user. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Now, the lads clearly have such issues, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
I think it's gone beyond that. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
They've created their own nightmares of what a heroin user is. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
Protecting their community, I think, is an excuse. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
I return to a party back at one of the group's house. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
-What's that? -I had a few beers, got angry. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
So I just threw my iPhone into the wall. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
-You kept it in there? -Yeah, it looks quite nice as a feature. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Outside, two of them prepare to light a fire. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
We'll get the shoe with the needles that we got earlier, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
just fill that full of the solvent. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
That will keep that set on fire, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
which will melt all the needles. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
So, is the fire burning the needles almost like a ritual for you guys? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
You could put it like that. Every other week, we'll have a fire, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
collect them all up and burn them all, then just have a few beers. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
So, how long will you carry on doing this? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Until I've a good life - a nice, clean area with no smackheads about. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
And I'll keep doing that till I die. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
So, as odd as it may sound, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
I'm really pleased that I've met those guys, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
because they've actually opened my eyes | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
to wider society's prejudice against the heroin user. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
But I do think, although they are an extreme case, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
it does beg the question that, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
if these crimes aren't going to be reported, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
how many other groups like this exist across the country? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 |