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Six young Brits are on the journey of a lifetime.

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They're heading deep into the North American wilderness.

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SHE SHRIEKS

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But this is no ordinary trek.

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He was having thoughts of beating her up, of punching her in the face.

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I just keep seeing it over and over again -

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him just lying there lifeless at the bottom.

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They've all signed up to a radical treatment programme

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for mental illness...

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I want to tap the wall with my elbow.

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-You might have been born with a stupid voice.

-I was.

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..because all of them have obsessive compulsive disorder.

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It's impossible to describe what turmoil my brain is in.

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The lid, in case my clothes touched it. The flusher.

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This is pathetic. This is not how my life should be.

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OCD has robbed them of their independence

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and made living normal lives impossible.

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They've been unable to get the treatment they need,

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and they're desperate for help.

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My parents have been through so much.

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I hate the man I thought I should have been at 22, that I'm not at 22.

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He's so pissed off that OCD has robbed him of his life.

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So in a last-ditch attempt to reclaim their lives,

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they're spending ten days

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at one of the world's most extreme OCD camps.

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Last time on Extreme OCD Camp,

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the group arrived on the north-west coast of America

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to begin radical treatment for their OCD.

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Today, they will be taking actual risks.

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Therapist Pete Weiss and Dr Travis Osborne are OCD experts,

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and are helping of all them overcome their greatest fears.

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You ready?

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22-year old Jack has severe contamination OCD.

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So far, he's been determined to confront

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his chronic anxiety about germs.

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My mouth went dry and my chest was beating.

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I was sweating, I felt kind of like I was going to faint.

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Drinking from a glass in a restaurant

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was a massive step forward, but it's not been easy.

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-BLEEP

-sake!

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Youngest of the group is 17-year-old Imogen.

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She constantly fears that her family will be harmed,

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and that she can only prevent it

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by avoiding certain foods and tapping things.

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It really does scare me, like,

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"If you don't tap that tree, your mum's going to die."

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So far, Pete has convinced Imogen to resist the urge to tap

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and accept her fears out loud.

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Maybe something bad will happen.

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Oh, dear.

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It may be painful, but it IS progress.

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Like Imogen, 18-year-old Megan is plagued by thoughts

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that those she loves will be harmed.

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She's also been challenged to face her fears out loud.

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You're going to get ill.

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For the last 12 years, 22-year-old Josh has been

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ruled by symmetry OCD, which compels him to do everything twice.

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I have to touch everything with my left and right hands,

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my left and right feet,

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equal amount of times everywhere I go, 24/7.

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So far at OCD Camp, Josh has been challenged to see how long

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he can wait before repeating an action

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a record ten minutes led to a dizzy high.

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But his next attempt led to a crashing low.

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To me, it is like seeing a bus come towards you.

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21-year-old Olivia fears being dirty so much

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she photographs her surroundings to reassure herself they're clean.

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But the main reason for her fear is the smell.

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Some people's biggest fear is getting ill maybe, or dying.

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-My biggest fear is anything that smells bad.

-Good work.

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The most complex of the group is 23-year-old Andrew.

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My OCD does primarily revolve around avoiding the number 13.

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Andrew's severe OCD and fear of the number 13

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has crippled his life and ruined his confidence.

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But so far, it's his low self-esteem that Pete has focused on treating.

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I don't even like talking, I sound stupid.

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So if you shout, you might be rejected by all of us?

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It involves being rejected, yeah.

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Little by little, even Andrew is finding a way through.

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I'm so hoping you feel at least

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a little tiny bit proud of yourself for what you just did.

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After four days of intensive treatment,

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the group's toughest challenge is yet to come.

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They're about to take a trek into the wild.

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But this is no mini-break.

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The extreme conditions are intended to trigger their OCD

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so that Pete and Travis can confront it head on.

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I can't really wrap my head around what we're about to do, honestly.

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To now go and take them out into the woods

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after everything that we've already done,

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I just can't really put words to it.

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Pete's taken OCD groups camping before,

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but treating six Brits in the wilderness is a first.

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After a four-hour ferry ride,

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the group arrive at Stehekin. Surrounded by mountains,

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it's a campsite in the sticks.

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They'll have to get down and dirty,

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cook for each other, and sleep out in sub-zero temperatures.

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For the next three days,

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Washington's wilderness will be home.

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They might be away from civilisation,

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but there's no escaping their OCD.

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It is frustrating. You're constantly thinking you've got to tap that

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or something bad's going to happen, you've got to tap that.

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It's difficult.

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And of course being in the wild will bring its own challenges.

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Hey, you guys! Heads up really quick.

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This is a great wilderness toilet paper.

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Good texture,

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lots of fibre.

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You might want to collect a couple, put them in your pocket.

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Imogen, you don't look so thrilled.

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This is better than the real thing, let me tell you.

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-I'll take your word for it.

-OK.

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We can do camp fire here because it has the shelter, the wind screen.

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Camp right there? Yeah, I think it's perfect.

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Let's get warm.

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I stepped off the boat incredibly cold, incredibly cold.

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It really hit me that I'm actually genuinely sleeping outside tonight.

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I'm actually eating outside.

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We're in a very uncontrolled and unpredictable environment.

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It doesn't matter that they're cold and uncomfortable out here.

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You can't wish away the night,

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you can't wish away the rain,

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and for some of them, that triggers their OCD ten times as much.

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Harsh as it may seem,

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Pete and Travis need the OCD to be triggered so they can treat it.

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-Could this blow over?

-Sure.

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I don't like that answer.

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Can you give me a nicer answer?

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-How does that feel?

-That's cosy. I'm quite warm, actually!

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Good! I'm glad.

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Oh, it's like a really good massage!

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Camp set, preparations begin for dinner.

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I'm going to put the rice on.

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Olivia suffers from an obsessive fear of smells,

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and tonight, she is in charge of cooking for the whole group.

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Onions are my favourite vegetables, but I won't cut them

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unless I can have a shower straight after

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because, like, the smell...

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Sometimes they split when you cut them and bits jump out.

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Plus, it's really hard to get the smell off your hands, I find.

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The thought process that goes through my head is that

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if an onion touches me, then my hands will smell of onions,

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then my clothes will smell of onions

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and then other people will think I smell of onions

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and then they'll stay away from me,

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or they'll get a bad impression of me, that kind of thing.

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But a hot shower isn't an option here,

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and the group are starving, so Olivia has to power through.

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Can you see if there's any things to put stuff in?

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-You know, once it's done?

-Oh, like a dish?

-Yeah.

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-Michelin quality.

-Yeah.

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But not everyone is as content as Josh.

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Jack finds dinner stressful at the best of times,

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and the great outdoors is making him

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even more anxious about coming into contact with germs.

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The water is just from like a thing down there, like a communal tap.

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I've not been the first to touch it,

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I've not been the first to eat from it.

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I don't know what the ladle has been used for,

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I don't know when it's been used.

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It's like about a 9 out of 10 for me, anxiety-wise.

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Jack obsesses about hygiene and how his food is prepared.

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Pete and Travis want him to take a risk and give up control.

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If a hiker came down the trail and asked,

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"Why is that guy freaking out about eating a bowl of rice?

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"Why does he look like he's in so much pain?"

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In your words, how would you explain it?

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Swap it for a bowl of poison.

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Yeah, just swap it for a bowl of poison.

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So, when you look in that bowl, you see a bowl of poison?

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Yeah, and I don't mean, like, see, as in...figure of speech.

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I mean SEE. See see.

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-Actually see it.

-Travis, I don't know about you,

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but I think he's got two choices,

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and that's allowing himself to be pushed around

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by this disorder, or face it.

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You have to kind of decide,

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like, do you want your life to be about getting sick?

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If this is going to be your life,

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where you are succumbing to OCD's wishes,

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then that's a choice you could make, right?

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You could just play it safe.

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Or, say, "I'm going to take a lot of risks.

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"I'm going to risk that I'm going to get sick because I want..."

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-What?

-Um...

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Go out with these lot and just eat what they're eating.

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Good.

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What just happened with Jack, the thing that's very profound,

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is that we couldn't control everything out here.

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It's the food being packed the wrong way.

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It's that he doesn't know where the pot comes from,

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he doesn't know where the water comes from.

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It's all of the combined effect

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makes all of this a ten for him, to eat.

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But this is real life for him,

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and so I think it's good it's happening now,

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where we can support him through it.

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Jack's not the only one with a fear involving food.

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Imogen's OCD doesn't just compel her to tap.

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She also thinks her family will be harmed

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if she eats and drinks certain things.

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The triggers can change,

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and at the moment, chocolate is one.

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Just holding a piece is a massive challenge,

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but Pete wants her to try.

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Imagine someone has her little time bomb

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in this M&M,

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and there's, like, a detonator in this M&M,

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and they put the bomb in your house

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where your family are.

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SHE SOBS

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It's all right.

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And if you set off the detonator...

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..your house... and your family are going to die.

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How do you detonate it?

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You have to eat it.

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Despite her genuine terror,

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Imogen is determined to push herself even further.

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Just relax, just relax, don't stay there. Give yourself a second.

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That was about three seconds, I think.

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Yep!

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-That's a good face.

-Yeah.

-Yep.

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What you all have to remember, you guys, is that it's not OCD

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if you know that the thought is irrational.

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It's not OCD.

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If you believed the thought, if you truly believed it,

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that would mean that you were psychotic or delusional.

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THAT's crazy.

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When people talk about crazy, that's what they mean.

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Imogen is a long way from that.

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I agree. So are you.

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I'm not so sure on that one!

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I'm not so sure on that one.

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I know you're not. I don't think the rest of us agree.

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It's just a little crossover of wires in my brain.

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It's a pretty rubbish feeling

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to be so scared of something that you enjoy so much.

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Normal for me would just be...

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Even if it meant that I could only eat one M&M,

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that would be incredible.

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Pete and Travis call it a day.

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The only job left is to collect more firewood.

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The more big stuff we can find, the better,

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because that's the stuff that will burn the longest.

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In the new environment, everyone is feeling the strain of their OCD,

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but Andrew also suffers from depression,

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and out of nowhere, his mood turns.

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I just got a real bad feeling of depression.

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I just felt as though everybody was ignoring me again.

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I think people don't want to start a conversation

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because they hate my voice.

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"Why would we go over there and talk to that absolute idiot?

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"We've got some nice, more normal people to walk along with

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"and talk to."

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I think somebody said to me something like,

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"You've got to put your food in a bear box

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"or something, or a bear would come and eat you,"

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and I just said, "I really wouldn't care if it did."

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I still feel a little bit like that at times.

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I meant it. At times, I really wouldn't care if a bear did eat me.

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I just woke up, everyone is still asleep

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and it's just a beautiful, beautiful day.

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Part of me wants to go and build a fire and start some hot water

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so when they wake up, they'll be comforted with those things,

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but then there's another part of me that says that

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I wouldn't be doing them any favours by making it too plush.

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I slept absolutely horrifically.

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It was the worst sleep I've ever had in my life.

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I'm not made for this, I'm a city boy. This is terrible.

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No-one slept, because it's just cold and wet and it sucks.

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I am feeling a bit better today.

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-You are?

-I felt hideous yesterday around here. I felt so rejected.

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Three nightmares about getting rejected again.

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-Last night?

-Three separate ones.

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What are we having for breakfast? What do you want for breakfast?

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Not fish and chips again? We can't do it(!)

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I don't know what there's going to be.

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There is some, like, oatmeal to make porridge,

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so porridge, if that's a possibility.

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You should really have porridge when you're down here anyway,

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-shouldn't you?

-Yeah.

-This is porridge territory.

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Spurred on by talking to Andrew,

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Jack summons up the courage to eat some too.

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It's a massive step forward after last night's rice ordeal.

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For me, I feel, already, I've regained my dignity,

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regardless of what happens now.

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I'll have a hell of a lot more independence, I think,

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because I feel that when it comes down to making food,

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preparing food, doing things like breakfast, porridge in the morning,

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I feel like it will be stuff that I'll be able to do on my own.

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Yeah, it makes me feel, obviously, better about myself.

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Sorry, Andrew! Agh!

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With breakfast over, it's time to pack up and hit the trail.

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The four-mile hike is intended to focus their energy

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and stop OCD taking over

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as they have to keep going until the next camp.

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Following Andrew's low point the night before,

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Pete's giving him responsibility as trek leader.

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I can completely see why Pete and Travis have brought us out here.

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Some people might be sitting there thinking,

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"They've got OCD, you know?

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"Why are they on a trip? What is the point of this?

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"Is walking meant to cure it, or something?"

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But everybody's OCD adapts to where you are,

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and if you're able to fight it when you're cold and you're hungry

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and you're tired, then you're a very strong person, really.

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That's all I have to say.

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And while trekking,

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OCD expert Travis wants to use the time to work with Josh.

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So far, they've tackled his symmetry OCD

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by encouraging him to go for as long as possible

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before repeating an action.

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On the first day, he could barely wait five minutes.

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A day later, he pushed through to ten.

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Now, after fist-bumping Travis with his left hand,

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he's desperately trying not to do the same with his right.

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Despite the extreme heat and unfamiliar terrain,

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he's trying to hold off for a painstaking 25 minutes.

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-We're at 23-and-a-half minutes.

-Oh, my god.

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This is the longest, Josh, you've ever gone without doing a ritual.

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-Can you give me a number for your anxiety?

-Seven.

-Seven?

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Five, four,

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three, two, one...

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25 minutes!

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OTHERS CHEER

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Josh has reached his target, but instead of ending his pain,

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he decides to keep on going, and Travis is stunned.

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He's just pushing and pushing and pushing himself

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to go further and further,

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even though he's having a really extreme panic attack right now.

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Do you want us to hike, Josh?

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Yeah?

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Are we nearly on 29, Travis?

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A couple of seconds until 29.

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Amazing.

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-Right, Josh...

-Josh!

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-You've got ten...

-I'll count down.

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Ten, nine, eight, seven,

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six, five, four, three, two...

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-Come on, Josh.

-..one.

-Yes!

-Good job!

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Oh, my god!

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30 minutes, Josh.

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Half an hour is incredible!

0:20:200:20:22

30 minutes. You go do whatever you need to do right now.

0:20:220:20:25

Probably collapse!

0:20:260:20:29

That's just so much for me.

0:20:340:20:37

I can do so much with that.

0:20:370:20:39

I can do so much. Just everything with that.

0:20:390:20:43

So I'm really, really happy.

0:20:430:20:45

For some of them,

0:20:490:20:50

they realise that they have nine days to make an impact.

0:20:500:20:54

They're terrifying themselves over and over and over again,

0:20:570:21:02

and imagine how exhausting that is.

0:21:020:21:04

They're completing an ultra-marathon here.

0:21:050:21:08

Josh's triumph spurs everyone on to keep trekking.

0:21:090:21:13

-How's everyone doing? Good?

-Good.

-Massive.

0:21:140:21:17

But an hour later, walking along a cliff edge

0:21:210:21:24

proves too much for Jack and triggers another side to his OCD -

0:21:240:21:28

not germs this time, but intrusive thoughts about harming people,

0:21:280:21:33

something the group haven't seen before.

0:21:330:21:36

I know we're getting higher,

0:21:360:21:38

so the higher we get, the more dangerous it gets,

0:21:380:21:40

the more the intrusive thoughts are going to come.

0:21:400:21:43

Although Jack has never harmed anyone,

0:21:430:21:46

he's had thoughts like this before, which cause him to panic.

0:21:460:21:49

And as he can't stop until the next camp,

0:21:490:21:52

he uses skills he's learnt so far to face his fears out loud.

0:21:520:21:56

Maybe I could push someone down.

0:21:560:21:58

Maybe I could push someone down.

0:22:000:22:02

Maybe I could push someone down.

0:22:030:22:06

Maybe I could push someone down.

0:22:060:22:08

Maybe I could push Olivia down the hill.

0:22:080:22:10

Maybe I could push Megan down the hill.

0:22:100:22:12

Maybe I could push Josh down the hill...

0:22:120:22:14

As soon as they reach camp, Jack removes himself from the group.

0:22:200:22:25

He was down on the dock and I went down and said, "What's going on?"

0:22:250:22:29

And he said, "The images are so loud."

0:22:290:22:33

He was having thoughts of harming Imogen, of beating her up,

0:22:330:22:36

of punching her in the face,

0:22:360:22:39

and it was just this intrusive image over and over of, I think,

0:22:390:22:43

of her just on her knees and him just beating on her.

0:22:430:22:48

I think Jack is just so pissed off,

0:22:520:22:55

and frustrated and angry that OCD has robbed him of his life.

0:22:550:23:00

And it's robbed him of the things that he loves.

0:23:000:23:03

The worst of Jack's panic attack may be over,

0:23:050:23:08

but it's really shaken him up.

0:23:080:23:09

It made me cry. It made me really, really, really cry.

0:23:090:23:13

I've not cried like that since I was a kid.

0:23:130:23:17

There's absolutely a direct link between the fact that we're

0:23:170:23:20

kind of getting towards the end a little bit now.

0:23:200:23:23

At home, I've got my mum, I've got my dad, I've got my brother,

0:23:230:23:27

I've got family, yeah, a couple of really good friends,

0:23:270:23:30

but...they understand it to a point.

0:23:300:23:33

They understand it to a good point, as well,

0:23:330:23:36

because they've all lived with it for so long,

0:23:360:23:39

but they don't get it in the same way that those five people

0:23:390:23:43

that are cooking dinner right now do.

0:23:430:23:45

-Is that a splint?

-Yeah...

0:23:480:23:50

SHE LAUGHS

0:23:500:23:51

-It's like a broken leg.

-Oh, stop!

0:23:510:23:53

I forgot that the boiling water would totally melt the adhesive.

0:23:530:23:57

THEY LAUGH

0:23:570:23:59

It's been an emotionally charged day for everyone,

0:24:000:24:03

but Josh at least wants to celebrate reaching a personal best.

0:24:030:24:08

Ohh!

0:24:080:24:09

JOSH GASPS

0:24:110:24:13

-Jesus Christ!

-Is it cold?

0:24:150:24:18

One, two, three, go!

0:24:180:24:20

THEY SHRIEK

0:24:200:24:22

Oh, my god! Oh, my god!

0:24:230:24:27

That's cold. That's cold.

0:24:270:24:30

I really enjoyed it, I'm glad I did it.

0:24:300:24:32

Oh, my god!

0:24:320:24:34

THEY GASP

0:24:340:24:37

As the group settle down for the night,

0:24:420:24:45

nature calls for Olivia.

0:24:450:24:47

Her contamination OCD means she's terrified

0:24:470:24:50

of smelling badly,

0:24:500:24:51

and she now has to face her worst fear -

0:24:510:24:54

a dirty, smelly long-drop loo out in the woods.

0:24:540:24:58

You're allowed to tell me how bad it is.

0:24:580:25:01

I didn't sit on the seat, and I just tried not to look down the hole.

0:25:010:25:04

I'm just going to look.

0:25:040:25:06

Ohh! That is rank! Oh, my god!

0:25:060:25:08

How did anyone get changed in there?

0:25:090:25:12

Ohh!

0:25:120:25:13

Urgh! I don't think I can use that.

0:25:130:25:16

No, it's disgusting.

0:25:160:25:18

-OK, you want to just go for it?

-Ohh!

-OK. That makes sense.

0:25:190:25:24

I know this is huge.

0:25:240:25:25

This is, I think, the hardest thing we've had so far, isn't it? Yeah.

0:25:250:25:30

Ugh! I'll just have to use it.

0:25:310:25:33

This is the one place Travis can't hold her hand.

0:25:330:25:36

She's got to do this on her own.

0:25:360:25:38

SHE COUGHS AND SOBS

0:25:410:25:42

-Are you OK?

-Ugh!

0:25:420:25:45

SHE COUGHS

0:25:460:25:48

How are you doing?

0:25:490:25:51

MUFFLED REPLY

0:25:510:25:52

VOICE BREAKING: I haven't moved.

0:25:520:25:54

SHE COUGHS

0:25:540:25:56

Oh, God! I don't want to go near the door.

0:25:560:25:59

Say when?

0:26:000:26:02

Olivia has come through her biggest challenge yet.

0:26:020:26:05

It's a massive victory over her OCD.

0:26:050:26:08

I was about to be sick.

0:26:090:26:11

Like, being in the room was just absolutely horrific.

0:26:110:26:14

It was so, so bad.

0:26:140:26:15

I think I could probably use anything now,

0:26:150:26:17

because that was so bad.

0:26:170:26:19

-Normal life is going to be so much easier.

-Good job, OK?

0:26:190:26:22

What did you call it?

0:26:220:26:24

Olivia just did the single hardest exposure

0:26:240:26:26

literally of her entire life. She used that toilet.

0:26:260:26:29

That is not a toilet. That is a cess pit.

0:26:290:26:32

10 out of 10.

0:26:320:26:34

APPLAUSE

0:26:340:26:36

-Well done.

-Attagirl!

0:26:360:26:38

Good work.

0:26:380:26:40

Do you have a little bit of water we could borrow?

0:26:400:26:42

Campfire lit, they reflect on their achievements so far.

0:26:440:26:47

High point's probably leading the trek

0:26:480:26:51

because I felt quite important, I suppose, leading it,

0:26:510:26:56

and also having my photo done with Megan and Imogen.

0:26:560:27:01

I don't really have any friends, you know, I lost touch with everybody.

0:27:030:27:07

I don't really get the chance to have many photos done,

0:27:070:27:09

so to have a photo done with two really nice girls...

0:27:090:27:13

..it's something that's...

0:27:150:27:17

GIRLS GIGGLE

0:27:170:27:19

-There'll be many more.

-Yeah, loads more.

0:27:190:27:21

When you first learned about this programme,

0:27:210:27:24

that you were going out in the woods for some sort of camp,

0:27:240:27:29

what did you think about that?

0:27:290:27:32

I think, for me, the trek I always thought was going to be

0:27:320:27:35

the hardest point, because I get so tired so easily,

0:27:350:27:38

so I thought that actually by doing this

0:27:380:27:41

would kind of help push my OCD to try and eat more,

0:27:410:27:46

because I can't do a lot because I run out of energy so quickly.

0:27:460:27:51

There are things out here which you can't do in a doctor's office.

0:27:510:27:55

Being in a doctor's office,

0:27:550:27:58

it's just a total sterile environment,

0:27:580:28:02

and this environment, it brings out the best in people

0:28:020:28:05

but it also brings out the worst in people.

0:28:050:28:08

But you need to see both those sides of people

0:28:080:28:11

to actually try and get better.

0:28:110:28:14

Next morning, and time for another trek.

0:28:270:28:30

But no-one's in a hurry to get started.

0:28:300:28:33

Good morning, everybody!

0:28:380:28:41

Good morning! Good morning!

0:28:410:28:45

Hello, hello, hello!

0:28:450:28:47

Morning!

0:28:470:28:48

Big Bear.

0:28:480:28:50

Big Bear!

0:28:500:28:52

What is it with Americans?

0:28:540:28:57

So happy, Americans.

0:28:570:28:59

Just give us our morning. God!

0:29:010:29:03

No, go have your morning out there. Look at the mountains, it's AMAZING!

0:29:030:29:07

I know, I looked at it loads!

0:29:070:29:08

After their rude awakening,

0:29:110:29:13

Pete decides to check in on their progress - American-style.

0:29:130:29:17

So let's start with...a personal weather report.

0:29:170:29:22

So we'll just go around really quick and just tell us

0:29:220:29:25

how you guys are doing right now in this moment.

0:29:250:29:28

Heat wave.

0:29:280:29:30

I don't know why.

0:29:320:29:34

I like it, I like it, it's nice.

0:29:340:29:36

I am having a rainbow, so some sun with quite a bit of rain.

0:29:360:29:42

I'm having a sunny day, just a good day.

0:29:440:29:47

I am sunny with a couple of clouds moving in from...

0:29:470:29:51

..the west, which will hopefully pass on by and continue being sunny.

0:29:540:29:59

Light rain forecast and thunder.

0:29:590:30:02

I've always got really thick, black clouds over me, but it's one

0:30:020:30:06

of them days where I think a decent amount of sun is getting through.

0:30:060:30:10

After a mixed report, Pete hits them with what they're doing today.

0:30:100:30:14

OK, so we are hiking to Moore Point,

0:30:140:30:19

and if everyone can look out this way,

0:30:190:30:22

you see that huge cliff right there?

0:30:220:30:24

And how there's a little plateau at the top?

0:30:250:30:28

That's where the trail goes. We're going to go right over that.

0:30:280:30:32

So we have a hill to climb.

0:30:320:30:34

This will be your first wilderness camp site,

0:30:340:30:37

completely wilderness camp site.

0:30:370:30:38

No privies, no picnic tables, no shelter, nothing.

0:30:380:30:44

What do you think, Imogen?

0:30:450:30:47

-Yay(!)

-THEY LAUGH

0:30:490:30:52

Today's kind of all about pacing.

0:30:520:30:54

You know, fighting OCD is kind of a lifetime...challenge,

0:30:540:31:00

and you're going to be best positioned if you pace yourself.

0:31:000:31:04

They have a long way to go, but only minutes in,

0:31:110:31:15

the cliff edge proves too much for Megan.

0:31:150:31:17

Thoughts of her family being harmed are coming thick and fast.

0:31:190:31:23

What just popped into your mind?

0:31:230:31:24

When we climbed that hill then, I pictured my dad falling down

0:31:240:31:29

-and hitting his head.

-OK.

0:31:290:31:31

I just keep seeing it over and over again.

0:31:310:31:33

-So it's just cycling.

-And him just lying there lifeless at the bottom.

0:31:330:31:37

I just feel so guilty and stressed.

0:31:370:31:41

Megan would normally deal with her panic attack by constantly

0:31:410:31:44

repeating good thoughts in her head.

0:31:440:31:46

But now, she's determined to ride out her obsessions

0:31:460:31:50

in an attempt to break the torturous cycle.

0:31:500:31:53

-It keeps flashing in my mind.

-OK.

0:31:530:31:54

I just want you to try to stay with it,

0:31:540:31:56

try not to distract yourself or shift away from it, OK?

0:31:560:32:00

When I get anxious, though, it's just like a mess in my head.

0:32:000:32:04

-It's kind of a jumble?

-Yeah.

0:32:040:32:06

-I can't check if they're OK.

-Yeah.

0:32:060:32:09

Yeah, being out here almost makes the exposure harder

0:32:090:32:11

because you can't just call them or run to the other room.

0:32:110:32:15

He could have just dropped down somewhere and I have no idea.

0:32:150:32:18

Right, right.

0:32:180:32:19

Is that image still cycling?

0:32:190:32:21

-It's, like, a five now.

-Five? OK. And you still haven't ritualised?

0:32:210:32:26

-No.

-Good, you're doing a great job. Good work.

0:32:260:32:30

-Thank you.

-All right.

0:32:300:32:32

That was the most anxious I got, so I've achieved more than I thought.

0:32:330:32:37

Initially, I wanted to just have a minute of the day without OCD,

0:32:370:32:42

but now I feel like I can do a lot more than that.

0:32:420:32:45

After a couple of hours, it's mission accomplished

0:33:010:33:05

and the troop reach the top.

0:33:050:33:06

And you, Big Bear?

0:33:080:33:10

THEY LAUGH

0:33:100:33:11

But for Andrew, there's one last mountain to climb.

0:33:110:33:14

So far at camp, he has been helped with his fear of rejection.

0:33:160:33:19

-Shall we sit here?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:33:190:33:21

But it's a crippling fear of the number 13

0:33:210:33:24

that causes him the most problems.

0:33:240:33:26

And Pete wants to address that now.

0:33:260:33:28

He uses the nearest thing to hand to trigger it - Andrew's camera.

0:33:280:33:33

CAMERA BLEEPS

0:33:330:33:35

Bring up menu.

0:33:350:33:37

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

0:33:370:33:40

11, 12, 13... I'm on there.

0:33:400:33:43

-OK. So that was another exposure right there?

-Just doing that.

0:33:430:33:47

Toggle between them a few times,

0:33:470:33:50

turn it on and off about four times, and each of them times, it'll be

0:33:500:33:54

a complex movement between different items carefully planned out.

0:33:540:33:59

Turn it off then, obviously I would have to turn it back on,

0:33:590:34:01

do that whole process again, turn it off, turn it back on.

0:34:010:34:05

OK. Can you stop yourself from doing that?

0:34:050:34:08

-Yeah, I don't intend to.

-OK.

0:34:080:34:10

Andrew's OCD about 13 is so strong

0:34:100:34:13

that even the smallest link can trigger it.

0:34:130:34:16

Tell me one more time, just so I know for sure why "program" is a problem.

0:34:160:34:21

Program is a problem because it ends in M,

0:34:210:34:24

and M is the 13th letter in the alphabet. So by going on program,

0:34:240:34:28

we're just coming into contact with 13.

0:34:280:34:31

-So you're going to go to program.

-Yep.

0:34:310:34:33

Then talk me through, tell me what's going on.

0:34:330:34:36

What's happening in your head?

0:34:360:34:38

Yeah, there is something in my mind now telling me that, you know...

0:34:380:34:42

..there's something not quite right.

0:34:450:34:47

If I have a bad bout a really bad bout of depression

0:34:470:34:49

over the next few days,

0:34:490:34:51

that is the time that I'm going to be likely to grab it and do it.

0:34:510:34:54

It's just about sticking with it.

0:34:540:34:56

I can easily do all of this now, as horrible as it is, but the hard

0:34:560:35:00

part is going to be not getting tempted to try and rectify it.

0:35:000:35:03

Oh, you will be tempted. You absolutely will be.

0:35:030:35:06

This is a lot like the other exposures we've done before

0:35:060:35:09

at Island Wood, isn't it?

0:35:090:35:10

I will be tempted because it's just going to be on my mind,

0:35:100:35:15

-it's just something.

-So the question is, right now, Andrew,

0:35:150:35:20

are you willing to tolerate all of that stress?

0:35:200:35:23

Yeah, because I feel really positive.

0:35:230:35:26

If I were at home, I'd say no, I'm not. But I'm positive

0:35:260:35:30

and I'm with lots of people and I've got exciting things happening, so...

0:35:300:35:33

so I'm prepared to.

0:35:330:35:35

-Well done.

-Thank you, yeah.

0:35:350:35:38

I think what I've learned from Pete and Travis is that

0:35:400:35:44

although number 13 is a big issue

0:35:440:35:46

and a lot of things centre around it, that is more like

0:35:460:35:49

a covering point for the fact that I've got no independence,

0:35:490:35:53

no friends, no social life, and this has really, really opened my eyes.

0:35:530:35:57

And I know for a fact that if I did build up a social life

0:35:570:36:00

and keep in touch with everybody,

0:36:000:36:03

then that is actually an indirect way of combating 13,

0:36:030:36:07

because the more confident I feel, the less likely

0:36:070:36:10

I feel compelled to have to hide behind routines from everything.

0:36:100:36:14

With the toughest part of the trek over,

0:36:250:36:28

it takes one last push for the team to reach their final camp spot.

0:36:280:36:32

After two days of trekking, it's a massive achievement.

0:36:320:36:36

-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

0:36:370:36:39

Yeah!

0:36:390:36:40

All right, you guys, you can do whatever you want for a while.

0:36:410:36:45

Enjoy.

0:36:450:36:48

While the others relax, it's more exposure time for Jack and Imogen.

0:36:480:36:53

As fear of food is such a major part of their OCD,

0:36:530:36:56

it's down to them to make dinner.

0:36:560:36:58

Move it back maybe a centimetre or so.

0:36:580:37:00

Jack's starting to cope with preparing meals outdoors,

0:37:000:37:02

but Imogen's problems stem from the types of food she's exposed to.

0:37:020:37:06

And on tonight's menu is one that triggers her OCD thoughts of harm.

0:37:060:37:11

I can't eat pizza because it is a bad food, which my OCD has decided,

0:37:110:37:17

which REALLY sucks, because it is, like, my favourite thing.

0:37:170:37:21

And that just shows how horrid OCD can be.

0:37:210:37:27

Why can we not just have something grim or meaty every night,

0:37:270:37:31

why are we having pizza for the third time since we've been here?

0:37:310:37:37

I think it's a personal thing against you.

0:37:370:37:39

Yeah, I think it is as well. I think someone's out to get me.

0:37:390:37:42

It's absolutely horrible, and when it affects something like food,

0:37:430:37:48

people don't realise, do they? People don't get how...

0:37:480:37:51

You know, it's kind of one of the biggest things in our lives.

0:37:510:37:55

You better tell me it smells disgusting. When you're eating...

0:37:550:37:58

It does smell disgusting. I ain't going to eat it.

0:37:580:38:01

I'm in the same camp as you.

0:38:010:38:02

'I hate to say it, but OCD is one of these things

0:38:100:38:12

'that doesn't actually go away.'

0:38:120:38:14

I think you can learn to control it,

0:38:160:38:19

but it's always going to be part of you, and that sucks.

0:38:190:38:22

But you don't have to be that person, because you can take a stand

0:38:220:38:26

and one day, I hope that I will be able to go to a restaurant and

0:38:260:38:31

order anything I want, eat it and not feel bad, and maybe the next

0:38:310:38:36

day, if I've got a job or something and I'm feeling a bit stressed, I'll

0:38:360:38:40

tap my desk before I leave and I'll just think to myself, "I'm stressed,

0:38:400:38:45

"I tapped my desk, it's done",

0:38:450:38:48

and then carry on life as normal so everyone will think,

0:38:480:38:50

"You've got a handle on it and you're OK."

0:38:500:38:53

It's the final day in Washington's wilderness. No-one's going

0:39:050:39:09

to miss the cold and damp, or unwelcome guests in the night.

0:39:090:39:13

You're all dead asleep.

0:39:130:39:16

Josh is snoring and all of a sudden, I hear, "What, what, what?"

0:39:160:39:22

SHE LAUGHS

0:39:220:39:24

And I go over there and Jack is...he's vertical.

0:39:240:39:28

I've never moved quicker in my entire life,

0:39:280:39:30

because a mouse ran onto my face and into my sleeping bag.

0:39:300:39:34

So I had a mouse literally go down my sleeping bag so I've gone,

0:39:340:39:37

literally, "hrrrm".

0:39:370:39:39

I think we need a little bit of wildlife on this trip.

0:39:390:39:42

The end of the trek may be a welcome relief for some.

0:39:420:39:46

I've got two blisters and a black toenail.

0:39:460:39:48

It's obviously because of all that walking we've done.

0:39:480:39:51

But despite the woods being tough,

0:39:510:39:53

the thought of going home is even tougher.

0:39:530:39:56

They're going home tomorrow.

0:39:560:39:59

Wow, they're going home tomorrow.

0:40:010:40:04

Or at least they're going to be out of our hands tomorrow.

0:40:040:40:06

For me, I think I may be taking it harder than the majority are here.

0:40:100:40:14

I feel very scared and very anxious,

0:40:140:40:18

and I'm not looking forward to it.

0:40:180:40:21

I'm not looking forward to anything of going home.

0:40:210:40:24

After Josh's great achievement at camp, he's desperate to get home,

0:40:270:40:31

and for the first time be more open with his friends about OCD.

0:40:310:40:35

That is one of my biggest regrets - instead of just being honest

0:40:390:40:43

with them, I just got scared and lied to them.

0:40:430:40:46

I really, really do miss them.

0:40:460:40:48

I hope that this trip will help me just to get out there,

0:40:500:40:52

get back there,

0:40:520:40:55

rekindle some old friendships

0:40:550:40:58

and hopefully make some new ones as well.

0:40:580:41:01

With less than 24 hours to go,

0:41:030:41:05

Imogen wants to use the time as best she can.

0:41:050:41:08

Up to now, she's been able to hold an M&M to her lips

0:41:090:41:12

for just a few seconds.

0:41:120:41:15

Despite her intense fear this could bring harm to her family,

0:41:150:41:18

she's going to take the risk and see how much further she can go.

0:41:180:41:22

OK, that was six minutes.

0:41:320:41:34

I think back to when I first had that M&M in my hand

0:41:360:41:40

and I could hold it to my lips for two seconds.

0:41:400:41:43

I was so, so scared,

0:41:430:41:45

and now I can hold it for, like, ten minutes.

0:41:450:41:50

'She is jumping leaps and bounds ahead.'

0:41:550:41:58

Imogen's confidence is at an all-time high,

0:42:000:42:02

so she pushes herself one step further.

0:42:020:42:05

Almost spontaneously, she stuck out her tongue.

0:42:050:42:09

Oh, Imogen!

0:42:160:42:17

Imogen.

0:42:190:42:21

'What this means is it's just a huge hope and confidence for progress.'

0:42:210:42:26

With over four hours to kill in the van, Imogen's triumph

0:42:400:42:44

with the M&M inspires Jack to go further than he's ever been, too.

0:42:440:42:48

Up until just a few days ago, sharing a water bottle would

0:42:480:42:51

have been unthinkable, but today, he's willing to give it a try.

0:42:510:42:56

-Are you going to be the sipper?

-I'll be the sipper.

0:42:560:42:59

-Is this a brand new bottle?

-A brand new bottle.

0:43:040:43:07

-Oh, that's a shame.

-It is a bloody shame.

0:43:070:43:10

That was a little bit more than a sip.

0:43:120:43:15

-Is that OK?

-Yeah.

0:43:150:43:16

-Cap it, and hand it back?

-Yeah, yeah, hand it back.

0:43:160:43:19

I saw Pete brushing his teeth yesterday,

0:43:200:43:22

so I know he's a good teeth-brusher.

0:43:220:43:24

That makes everything a hell of a lot easier. But...

0:43:240:43:28

I didn't this morning, though.

0:43:280:43:30

-Now that's cruel.

-Yes!

0:43:330:43:35

Well done!

0:43:360:43:38

-What's your number right now?

-About six-and-a-half.

0:43:380:43:41

The group wait anxiously for Jack's panic to rise, but it doesn't.

0:43:410:43:47

A week ago, it would have been an eight or a nine,

0:43:470:43:50

but I think because it's been three days of just being dirty

0:43:500:43:53

and going through all the other exposures, it kind of, yeah,

0:43:530:43:56

it feels lower, it feels more manageable.

0:43:560:43:59

I don't want to be, like, eating out of toilets when I get home,

0:43:590:44:02

but I want to at least be able to eat within 100 yards of one.

0:44:020:44:06

American road trips, that's what you do.

0:44:080:44:10

Apparently you change on American road trips. Cue music.

0:44:100:44:14

MUSIC: "When You Were Young" by The Killers

0:44:140:44:17

-HE SINGS ALONG WITH RADIO

-# You sit there in your heartache

0:44:220:44:25

# Waiting on some beautiful boy...

0:44:250:44:29

# To save you from your old ways

0:44:290:44:33

# Watch him now, here he come... #

0:44:330:44:36

The highs and lows of OCD Camp have affected everyone,

0:44:360:44:40

but it's clear this roller coaster ride isn't over

0:44:400:44:43

when Andrew's mood suddenly turns again.

0:44:430:44:45

OLIVIA: You know you've made five friends for life, like we all have.

0:44:450:44:48

-ANDREW:

-I don't fit in like everybody else.

0:44:480:44:50

Yes, you do.

0:44:500:44:52

I never will do, there's just no point. I'm just fed-up.

0:44:520:44:56

PETE: How many people in this van have ever been in a place where

0:44:560:44:59

you just didn't feel like fighting any more?

0:44:590:45:02

-JORDEN:

-Twenty...two times today.

0:45:020:45:04

How many times today?

0:45:040:45:06

I appreciate everything that every nice person has ever done for me,

0:45:080:45:12

but there's just too many bad people for me to cope with.

0:45:120:45:16

I can't cope with life.

0:45:160:45:19

There's too many things I can't... I just can't cope with.

0:45:190:45:22

But if the bad people are bad, they're not worth bothering with.

0:45:220:45:25

Yeah, but it might not be them people that are bad,

0:45:250:45:27

it's me that nobody likes.

0:45:270:45:29

As well as it just being because I was worried that people weren't

0:45:310:45:34

listening to me and talking to me, I think it was that sense of

0:45:340:45:38

it's all changing in two days, the end's coming, and it just threw me.

0:45:380:45:42

'I'm actually really sad about going home,

0:45:420:45:45

'because I've not got much of a life back home, so obviously

0:45:450:45:48

'I'm extremely worried that I might end up going back to how I were.'

0:45:480:45:52

If I can just stay in touch with these people

0:45:520:45:54

and build on what I've learnt, then hopefully I can move forward.

0:45:540:45:59

-JACK:

-It's just bad days, man, bad days and good days.

0:45:590:46:01

You'll have loads more bad days and good days.

0:46:010:46:03

But you're glad you came, ain't you?

0:46:030:46:05

Oh, course I am. Course I am.

0:46:050:46:08

It's the best thing I've done in my life.

0:46:080:46:10

There's a level of worry that I have for all of them,

0:46:120:46:17

that we can't take them home with us, we're not moving to the UK.

0:46:170:46:21

That they're on their own.

0:46:230:46:25

From tomorrow, they'll be battling with their OCD alone, so Pete

0:46:280:46:33

has a keepsake for them all to help remember what they've learnt.

0:46:330:46:37

We have something for you.

0:46:370:46:39

And...it's a little dragon charm.

0:46:390:46:43

Eleanor Roosevelt said a really great thing, which was,

0:46:430:46:48

"Do something that scares you every day."

0:46:480:46:51

So when you look at this,

0:46:540:46:57

I encourage you to think about that.

0:46:570:47:00

I reckon the trip's probably the best decision I've made so far,

0:47:030:47:07

I think, in my life, probably. There's two ways I can look at this.

0:47:070:47:11

I can look at it as an amazing, brilliant experience

0:47:110:47:13

and an opportunity to set myself up, hopefully, for the rest of my life,

0:47:130:47:17

in a really positive way, or I can just drop back to old habits.

0:47:170:47:22

It's a really great opportunity to go home

0:47:220:47:25

and finally start living.

0:47:250:47:27

I've got a long way to go, but like I said when I first came here,

0:47:290:47:33

I just needed that one big push just to get me going again.

0:47:330:47:38

And I've been given a bigger push than I expected.

0:47:400:47:43

I want that degree that I personally think that I truly deserve,

0:47:430:47:48

and I want that job that I deserve.

0:47:480:47:50

I want that life that I deserve. It's definitely going to happen.

0:47:500:47:53

It's just a matter of when, really.

0:47:530:47:54

I've had fish all over my hands,

0:47:560:47:58

I've had onions all over my hands, used the most disgusting toilets

0:47:580:48:01

in the world and no-one has stayed away from me.

0:48:010:48:04

Everyone has been very close. No-one has been disgusted.

0:48:040:48:08

My independence has massively improved.

0:48:080:48:10

Like, the one thing that I came out here to mainly do was to just

0:48:100:48:13

be able to make decisions on my own.

0:48:130:48:15

'I'm kind of frustrated that I didn't have the opportunity to do

0:48:170:48:20

'this earlier, because I think I would have had a much easier life.'

0:48:200:48:24

I still care the same amount about my family, obviously,

0:48:240:48:27

but I'm learning that it's not my job to look after them

0:48:270:48:32

as much as I do in my head.

0:48:320:48:34

There are people here who have the same fears that I have, and I always

0:48:370:48:42

thought I was alone, and I always thought, "What is wrong with me?"

0:48:420:48:47

People do understand.

0:48:470:48:49

It'll kind of, hopefully, give me a little boost in the morning just

0:48:510:48:55

to press on and work that bit harder to get where you want to be in life.

0:48:550:48:59

You know what? I really did do it, I achieved it.

0:49:040:49:06

I managed to survive without my mum on my own.

0:49:060:49:10

Sharing bedrooms with people, you know, hot tubs.

0:49:100:49:14

I've done all this in a country on the other side of the world.

0:49:160:49:19

If you'd asked most people if I could achieve that...

0:49:190:49:23

but I've done it, so another thing I've proved them wrong with.

0:49:230:49:27

And to say thank you, there's also a present for Pete.

0:49:400:49:44

It seems like if we give you this,

0:49:440:49:46

we have the final say on nationalities.

0:49:460:49:50

THEY LAUGH

0:49:500:49:52

PETE: Thank you, guys.

0:49:540:49:55

They may have survived camp,

0:49:580:50:00

but their greatest challenge is yet to come -

0:50:000:50:03

whether they can fight their OCD back home.

0:50:030:50:06

Back in England, Jack's wish for independence is slowly

0:50:190:50:22

-becoming a reality.

-Ladies first.

0:50:220:50:25

Including going to restaurants with a good friend and her son.

0:50:260:50:30

Thanks a lot, cheers.

0:50:300:50:32

'Things have changed.'

0:50:340:50:36

It's like, when I'm outside, I'm not wearing gloves, I'm not quite

0:50:360:50:40

so obsessive about sell-by dates on food,

0:50:400:50:43

I'm eating off plates quite regular.

0:50:430:50:45

-You still can't use normal cutlery.

-No, I mean, I want to try it.

0:50:470:50:50

Everything about me wants to try using the regular cutlery today,

0:50:500:50:53

-because I actually feel quite good for it...

-Yeah.

0:50:530:50:56

..but I know it's probably a little bit of a step too far.

0:50:560:50:59

'It feels like I'm getting there slowly.'

0:51:000:51:02

I am a million miles from where I want to be, but then...

0:51:020:51:04

Yeah, but you're a million miles further than you were.

0:51:040:51:08

Despite still having a strong fear of germs,

0:51:080:51:11

he's now more hands on than ever before.

0:51:110:51:14

Oh, look at him!

0:51:140:51:16

Nice to just sit here and have a little cuddle with one.

0:51:170:51:20

I mean, obviously, I have to wash my hands afterwards,

0:51:200:51:23

but it's still nice to be able to at least try it a bit.

0:51:230:51:26

When I'm going through the things that I'm going through,

0:51:260:51:28

I'm able to deal with them in a lot calmer fashion, really.

0:51:280:51:31

It's not quite so chaotic.

0:51:310:51:33

I didn't choose this, I didn't choose this life.

0:51:330:51:35

I didn't choose this horrible, horrible condition.

0:51:350:51:38

Erm, but I do choose to get better from it.

0:51:380:51:41

-THEY LAUGH

-Sorry!

0:51:450:51:47

As for Imogen, life since camp has been a fresh start.

0:51:500:51:53

I wouldn't say it's the end of my OCD.

0:51:530:51:56

I'd say it's the beginning of my new way of looking at OCD.

0:51:560:52:01

Each day is a battle, but she's trying to tap less and less.

0:52:010:52:06

Obviously I am still scared a lot, you know, there are things

0:52:060:52:09

that I think to myself, "Oh, my god, I can't do this".

0:52:090:52:15

I think it's always going to be a monster in the back of my head

0:52:150:52:17

but hopefully it won't come out so much.

0:52:170:52:21

Imogen is also fighting her intrusive thoughts that stop

0:52:230:52:26

her eating and drinking what she wants.

0:52:260:52:29

'I can drink tea and coffee.'

0:52:290:52:32

Not hot chocolate yet, and M&M's I'm still working with.

0:52:320:52:36

I haven't been able to eat a whole M&M yet.

0:52:360:52:39

I think I usually get, like, maybe a quarter

0:52:390:52:41

and then end up having to chuck it, but, you know, we're getting there.

0:52:410:52:45

Since the return from camp,

0:52:470:52:49

Olivia is pushing herself every day to overcome her fear of smells.

0:52:490:52:53

Please can I have two pieces of salmon? Like, little piece...

0:52:530:52:58

The thing I'm most proud of since I got back is I think

0:53:000:53:03

I used to take maybe 20 pictures a day on my phone of toilets

0:53:030:53:07

and dirty seats and things that I thought were dirty, for reassurance.

0:53:070:53:11

And I've taken three in maybe three weeks, two-and-a-half weeks.

0:53:110:53:15

Great presentation skills.

0:53:200:53:23

Yeah, I definitely feel more positive about the future now.

0:53:230:53:26

As for Megan, her OCD had caused her to drop out of university,

0:53:280:53:33

but since going to camp, she's back.

0:53:330:53:35

I feel now I can actually have a normal life

0:53:350:53:39

and get a normal job like everyone else,

0:53:390:53:41

because if I couldn't do uni I think I felt like I couldn't do anything.

0:53:410:53:46

-How are you?

-Hello.

0:53:460:53:48

Camp has had a massive impact, a really positive impact on my life.

0:53:480:53:52

I get the same number of thoughts, but I know now how to deal with

0:53:520:53:56

the anxiety and not ritualise, so I feel really positive about my future.

0:53:560:54:02

-Bye!

-See you.

0:54:050:54:08

Andrew's OCD had made him almost a recluse.

0:54:100:54:13

Now his confidence is building every day.

0:54:130:54:16

I've been trying to take Cookie out and we'll go to t'shop every day.

0:54:160:54:19

That's like an exposure to get me more confident with being out.

0:54:190:54:22

I've got such a lot less will to do routines

0:54:220:54:25

when I feel as though I've got a life outside of the house.

0:54:250:54:29

And it wasn't just the camp that made an impact,

0:54:330:54:36

but the people he was with.

0:54:360:54:37

Making them friends in America meant a lot to me.

0:54:390:54:42

You see, like there, six notifications.

0:54:440:54:46

It's been pretty much zero for three years straight,

0:54:460:54:49

so when I get, like, seven or eight every day, it's quite nice.

0:54:490:54:52

It's made me realise that I can make friends and maintain friends.

0:54:520:54:56

Ah, I typed that on 13 minutes past.

0:54:590:55:01

Ugh! I'm not going to let it get me down too much.

0:55:010:55:05

I'm just going to try and ignore it as best I can.

0:55:050:55:07

The number 13 is... It still is a big part of my identity,

0:55:090:55:12

but I think I can realise more now that it doesn't have to be.

0:55:120:55:16

Oh, where's that going?

0:55:250:55:27

As for Josh, his symmetry OCD had prevented him getting a job.

0:55:270:55:31

After the camp, things have changed.

0:55:340:55:37

-Two minutes on that, chef.

-Cool.

0:55:390:55:41

Like, someone says, "Yes, chef."

0:55:410:55:43

It's like, "Who are you talking to?" It makes you feel good, definitely.

0:55:430:55:47

My OCD seems to be a lot less active when I'm constantly doing things,

0:55:490:55:54

constantly sort of being stressed.

0:55:540:55:56

And it's a job that I really, really think I could thrive in.

0:55:560:56:00

To be able to come back from the camp and just say, "I can do that,"

0:56:000:56:05

and go for it, it's a massive step.

0:56:050:56:08

And the job isn't the only good news.

0:56:080:56:12

Since getting back, I'm seeing someone. Erm...

0:56:120:56:16

..yeah.

0:56:170:56:19

She's awesome, I'm awesome. All good.

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