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This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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18th October, 2012.

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Across Britain 100 cameras are filming the NHS on a single day.

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This change will be a disaster.

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On this day more than 1.5 million of us will be treated.

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Three days ago you had a stroke.

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1,500 of us will die.

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2,000 will be born.

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The NHS is the largest public healthcare system in the world.

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We want that to be in your voice all the time.

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Hello, we're going to help you.

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-We rely on it...

-Be really brave.

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-..complain about it...

-In the bin, that's because of you!

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..often we take it for granted.

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Lucas! Lucas!

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What we expect from the NHS is ever-increasing.

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The money to pay for it isn't.

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If we could see what this institution does in a single day...

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..what would it make us think?

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This entire series tells the story of one day.

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So, why isn't she waking up?

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100 cameras,

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capturing the NHS as you've never seen it before.

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Baby born at five to three.

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RADIO: 'It's seven o'clock on Thursday 18th October.'

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-Do they do showers there? I can't remember

-Yes.

-Do they?

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-Yes, and you can change clothes there.

-OK.

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The plan is ordinary surgery to start with

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so a morning of booked patients,

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and then I'm duty doctor in the afternoon,

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which is the bit that most of us don't like terribly much.

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Dr Liz Lee is one of nearly 40,000 GPs in Britain

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treating an ever-growing number of patients.

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There are so many people with so much more wrong with them now

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than there used to be.

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When you are young you are very unlikely to do much

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going to the doctor, but by the time you're 70 or 80,

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you've probably got two or three significant illnesses

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and you are going quite a lot.

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I mean, we just haven't got enough doctors, because even now everyone

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will tell you everywhere you go, you can never get in to see your doctor.

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Nicky Barden.

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Liz could see as many as 40 patients today.

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I've been having a long-standing problem now with my hands,

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a lot of stiffness and joint pain, across my knuckles.

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It's a bit of a concern for me as I am a musician.

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-What sort of musician are you?

-A guitarist.

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The thing about general practice is this great breadth of medical

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problems, so you have to know a bit about everything.

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Can you make a fist?

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'And also breadth of life, so you get babies, you do get dying people,

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'and everything in between.'

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Because you are feeling dizzy, I think, is that right?

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52 kilograms, eight and a bit.

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Just say, "Ah."

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My guess is you'd like to try an antibiotic and see if...

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-Yes, if I can do.

-Yes, I think that's very reasonable actually.

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To maximise the number of patients Liz can see in a day,

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her appointments are strictly limited to 12½ minutes per patient.

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12½ minutes, it's not long enough to do an excellent job.

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It's long enough if you got a sore throat or a simple thing,

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it's really easily long enough, but, actually,

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when patients have complex problems, it is nowhere near long enough.

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I woke up in the night with a metal taste in my mouth.

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It's like headache but it's like the whole of the inside of your head...

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The task is pretty awesome really.

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Endlessly sifting, sifting, all sorts of funny aches and pains

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and things that actually could, in the end, be something that's

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life-threatening for the person who presents them to you.

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'At the back of my mind I do worry that I will let my patients down

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'and some who should be referred on do not get referred on.'

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Every so often it happens, within all surgeries, that there is

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a patient who comes and sees us several times with symptoms that we

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don't pick up and actually turn out in retrospect to have been cancer.

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I think that has happened to every GP

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who's practised for any length of time.

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Janet Bowden.

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I'm only running 10 minutes late, which isn't bad, actually,

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at this stage in the morning.

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Hello, I'm Dr Liz. Come on in.

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-RADIO:

-'The government said it is still committed to reducing home energy bills.'

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Ah!

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SHE GROANS

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We're only booking for the afternoon now,

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there are no more morning appointments.

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SIRENS WAIL

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-Safe?

-Yes.

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It is a mobile X-ray unit rather than a doctor's surgery.

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We only do chest X-rays.

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We often get asked for other things

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but we have no other facilities, just chest X-rays.

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That's it, come and stand here again now.

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The TB bus was set up eight years ago by the Department Of Health

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to address the problem of increasing TB amongst certain groups of people.

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Tuberculosis, a highly infectious disease

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that was last rife in Victorian slums,

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is on the rise again in Britain. And, just like then,

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it's spreading rapidly amongst the most deprived members of society.

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Take in a breath again, breathe in. Big breath in.

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Breathe in, Paul.

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We go to anywhere that homeless people gather, where drinkers...

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Drink treatment centres, drug treatment centres.

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OK, breathe out.

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The idea is that the people we deal with don't tend to go to a GP

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if they feel unwell, they put it down to what they are taking.

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So we go to them.

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The team use a simple chest X-ray

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to scan the patient's lungs for signs of the disease.

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It's this white circle here, which could be a cavity,

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which means that the bug has actually eaten away part of the lung

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and it's consumed it. That's why TB used to be called consumption,

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because it consumed the lungs.

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-And your first name?

-Olwyn.

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Pop your jacket on there, Olwyn.

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Every time the TB bus is here, I always go and have a test

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because you never know when you're going to catch TB.

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My father had TB years ago and I know what the consequences are of TB.

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This country is rife with it again, I mean, we got rid of it,

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or were supposed to, and now it's back with a stronger strain of TB,

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that's even worse to get rid of.

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-There we are. Are you taking any medication?

-Loads.

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If left untreated the disease becomes more infectious

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and requires costly medical care.

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Catching cases early will save the NHS millions.

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Your elbows forward.

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OK, breathe in now.

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We get a lot of people who turn around and say, "Oh, I don't care.

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"If it gets me, it gets me."

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This is a breakfast voucher for you.

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-You get a free breakfast today or tomorrow.

-Thank you, cheers.

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We give a voucher out.

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Anyone who has a chest X-ray will get a free breakfast,

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so it's a way of encouraging them to come on.

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Damn, I forgot to put the socks out.

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Drat!

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I thought of that last night.

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We collect socks because often, for people that are homeless,

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They... It doesn't sound very much to you and I,

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but to have a clean, dry, pair of socks is quite something.

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It's the old carrot.

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Well done.

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I am late.

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I think whatever I do I'm always five minutes late,

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it's just in-built into my nature.

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But I'm usually a bit late for clinic

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so the patients who know me well, they are always late as well

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so a clinic that's supposed to start at 8:30 usually starts at about 9:15.

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People on the outside sort of think,

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"Oh, brain surgeon," and they think about that

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and they think it must be some sort of mysterious,

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really important job and it is an important job

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and it is great to say that you're a brain surgeon

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but the reality is that I think that all medicine, you can risk life.

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We can cause damage

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to patients and we can do really stupid things

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that can really hurt patients,

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or fantastic things that really can save patients.

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-Morning, boss!

-Morning, morning, morning.

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Conor Mallucci works at Alder Hey Hospital's neurosurgical unit,

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an internationally renowned treatment centre for children

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with brain and spine disorders.

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-How are you doing?

-Good, good.

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-Hey, Ben, how you?

-Hello.

-Are you all right?

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How has he been? Perfect.

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-Any problems.

-No.

-Yeah?

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-Have you had your dinner?

-No.

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'GPs probably see 20 or 30 patients with headache a day

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'and most of them are just headache. If I see a child with a headache'

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I stick him in a scanner and I know what is wrong with him, you know?

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Hey, Prasanna.

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Today, Conor's patients include Prasanna, a teenage boy with

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an incurable brain tumour that's left him with disabilities.

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I'm going to look at this scan, double check it.

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Do you want to wait here for a sec while we just have a look?

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Can we just have a quick look at that?

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After more than 50 operations at another hospital,

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surgeons there were unable to offer Prasanna any more treatment.

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The family came to Alder Hey for a second opinion

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and Conor agreed to operate.

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It's one of those cases where different doctors will be of different opinions.

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Not everybody, when you put a clinical question in the room,

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is always going to agree.

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The operation today will reduce cysts that have grown on the tumour

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to try and alleviate some of Prasanna's more disabling symptoms.

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Yes, those cysts are getting bigger.

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'At some point with Prasanna you need to think,

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"How many more operations can we do on this child?"

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We've always got to sit back and say, is it in his best interests?

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And I think we are all very happy as a team,

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it's the right thing to do and we are going to do an operation that is

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hopefully safe and it might, and probably will, help Prasanna.

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-Hello, how are you?

-Say good morning.

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Are you all right? Nice to see you.

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-He has been asleep for the last day so...

-Yes.

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-Good, so we are going to do this about lunchtime, OK?

-OK.

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Alder Hey's £3 million highly specialised brain scanner,

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the only one of its kind for children in Europe,

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allows Conor to be more precise.

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We are very technology dependent and we are very expensive.

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I'm one of the worst offenders

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because whenever there's a new bit of kit that I think will improve

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patient care I will try it, use it, and show that it works.

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It is one of those luxuries,

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but it is not a luxury for a child's parents with a brain tumour,

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it's a necessity. So, how do you cost that? You don't.

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-I saw Sam sitting on a bus.

-I saw Sam sitting on a bus.

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Do you mind telling me why you are here to see the doctor?

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I'm not here to see the doctor, I'm here to read the paper.

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I've just lost my job

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and I do equate that with this outbreak of eczema.

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Two hours into her morning surgery and Liz is on her eighth patient.

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Now you've lost your job, is the stress levels going to go down,

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-or are they just going up and up?

-They're going up at the moment

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because I have actually gone for a lot of jobs and not got them.

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I think my age. You know, a middle-aged woman,

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it does sort of count against you looking for work.

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-What sort of work?

-Careers adviser.

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As the first port of call for most of our medical needs,

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trips to see the GP account for 90% of our interaction with the NHS.

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One of our jobs is to keep most medical treatments out in

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general practice because we are so much cheaper than the hospital services.

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-Just remember that it's more important to be happy...

-OK.

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..than to worry about your cholesterol.

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-That's all right.

-All right?

-Yes.

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Some people describe us as gatekeepers.

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-He was crying.

-I was crying.

-Were you?

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'I can sort of think of the whole NHS as a sort of ecosystem'

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and we are a very important sort of outer rim of the ecosystem

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and we have to prevent people getting into the central bit.

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-OK, so I'll stick on the diet.

-Stick on the diet, yes.

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-Very good, thanks. Thanks very much.

-OK, bye.

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One of the most expensive wards in any hospital

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is the intensive care unit.

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61-year-old Stuart has been in intensive care for almost four weeks

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after suffering a massive heart attack.

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His children, Sarah and Andrew, have been at his bedside

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every day since it happened.

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He was competing at a motorsport event and he pulled over

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on to the grass and it was apparent that he was very in distress.

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Thank goodness he got quick attention by the paramedics

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that were at the venue.

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Yes, he was lucky that it happened there

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because he had medical assistance as soon as possible

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-and in these cases that is what really is...

-Makes a big difference.

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Lucky to be attended there by the paramedics

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and then airlifted here to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

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Stuart has been unconscious since he arrived in hospital.

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Every day he spends here costs the NHS £2,000.

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-How long have you been here now?

-It's day 25.

-Yes.

-Yes.

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Where were you when you heard about your dad?

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I was actually on my honeymoon in Mauritius, so, yes, that was...

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That was a whole other dimension to the sort of situation we were in,

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I guess, but, you know, we just came straight here.

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As soon as we could we came straight here. Yes.

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When was the last time you spoke to him?

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It was when my brother gave us a lift to the airport,

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so they were just seeing us off,

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so in a really sad way, at least it was a goodbye,

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but not the good sort of goodbye that he would anticipate having.

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Until Stuart's condition improves, doctors can't be certain

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whether he has sustained any long-term damage.

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All his family can do is wait.

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We daren't plan anything

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because for every positive there's

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been a couple of little negatives,

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so we haven't planned, we haven't really planned at all.

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I am waiting to see how brain-damaged he is.

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That's what I need to come to terms with now really.

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His heart's working properly...

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Now we've got to see what's there.

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When you wake up in the morning first thing,

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is that when you cough most? When you've been lying down at night,

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when you sit up, wake up in the morning...

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-When I wake up in the morning.

-You do a big cough in the morning then?

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-I am not waking because of the coughing.

-OK.

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After the smoking cigarettes.

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-Do you see blood in it?

-Yes.

-Blood? Every day there is blood?

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The last two weeks every day.

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The last two weeks there's been blood. OK.

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In east London, Jane has found someone with the early signs of TB.

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So this gentleman came from Lithuania eight years ago

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but has been sleeping under a bridge in Shadwell.

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Has been complaining of a cough, he's coughed up some blood,

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and he feels very lethargic, which are all symptoms of TB.

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Once the X-ray came up

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and I could see this patch here of infection,

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this sort of white streak here,

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obviously that needs to be investigated.

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So you drink, do you take any drugs? Do you smoke heroin or...?

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No, I am smoking cigarettes.

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-But no crack, no heroin?

-No, I am drinking beer and vodka.

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Beer and vodka.

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OK, so, what we'll do is we will get you to give a sputum sample.

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-If you can cough...

-Yes.

-And cough some up into a pot.

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We do see quite large pockets of Eastern Europeans

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in different parts of London because they tend to gravitate together.

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There is also a lot of them sleeping rough now.

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They came here for the job

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but the jobs have dried up and they are now homeless.

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I want the phlegm from the bottom of your chest.

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HE COUGHS UP

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Let's just see. OK.

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Yes, that's OK. And another one in here.

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HE COUGHS UP

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OK, beautiful. Yes.

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Perfect. Thank you.

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This one mobile X-ray units attends to 10,000 homeless people

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living in London.

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Every day is different. I know a lot of people say that

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about their jobs but with this one every day really is different.

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We have done some pretty rough estates at night, haven't we?

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We did have supermarket trolleys thrown at us in Brixton

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when we were screening down there one evening.

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We had a chap last week who was absolutely plastered.

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We actually got him up onto the van and his legs went

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and he was all over the place. But this chap got off the van,

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stood on the pavement, shook his trouser leg

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and the poo dropped down his trouser leg onto the pavement.

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He kicked it aside and walked off.

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With 50 people screened,

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the bus is ready to move on to its next location.

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We are going to Emmaus House,

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where the nuns feed the homeless.

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In Acton.

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That is very busy and popular.

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Well, he is two months old and he has got two lesions in his spine.

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I have explained to the patient, earwax is not a medical emergency.

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At the GP surgery, Liz's next patient is a regular.

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Last week she came in with chest pains,

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asking to be referred to a specialist.

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The cardiologist is looking at the letter right now

0:21:160:21:19

and so now that bit is out of our hands,

0:21:190:21:23

-which I know leaves you sort of sitting, worrying about it.

-Yeah.

0:21:230:21:26

If they have got any worries, they will get you straight in

0:21:260:21:29

but that bit is being sorted out now.

0:21:290:21:32

Just looking back at the specialists you have seen recently, it's...

0:21:320:21:37

it's a lot.

0:21:370:21:38

Jackie has already had over 100 consultations with

0:21:390:21:42

specialists for a variety of conditions, including depression,

0:21:420:21:46

which, so far, has been resistant to treatment.

0:21:460:21:49

I am thinking, if your neck was the cause of the problems here,

0:21:500:21:55

I wonder if a lot of the cause of your chest pain is going to

0:21:550:21:58

be muscles as well and it is all part of your sort of depression, really.

0:21:580:22:02

I suppose my question is whether you think some of this could be

0:22:050:22:09

psychological or whether... I mean, both of you, really.

0:22:090:22:12

Whether you think it is that you have got physical troubles as well.

0:22:120:22:17

You worry there is a physical thing going on.

0:22:170:22:20

Yeah, I think there is something.

0:22:200:22:22

There is something more than just blood pressure cos if she

0:22:220:22:25

is struggling to breathe, there has got to be a reason for it.

0:22:250:22:28

-What is your fear? Heart attack sort of thing?

-Yes, definitely.

0:22:280:22:32

There is nothing to say that you are about to have a heart attack.

0:22:320:22:37

-You feel more distressed to me today than Jackie does.

-Yeah, I am.

0:22:390:22:44

Cos I just keep thinking we are being let down, really,

0:22:440:22:47

by a lot of it is because nothing is moving on quick enough

0:22:470:22:50

and she has been like this so long now it is getting very worrying.

0:22:500:22:53

I am worried about her.

0:22:530:22:55

Yeah, I don't know what to say, really.

0:22:550:22:57

I mean, people are looking, people are trying.

0:22:570:23:00

Do you get that feeling or...?

0:23:000:23:01

I just feel that, you know, something should be done quite

0:23:010:23:04

quickly because she is not getting any better.

0:23:040:23:07

I really want to get something done as soon as we can, obviously,

0:23:070:23:10

cos she is suffering with this at the moment and obviously

0:23:100:23:13

day-to-day life is making it really uncomfortable

0:23:130:23:15

for both of us, really.

0:23:150:23:17

Thank you.

0:23:170:23:18

I don't know why some people's depression is what we

0:23:200:23:24

call resistant depression, nothing fixes it.

0:23:240:23:29

I kind of feel like with the depression,

0:23:290:23:31

the answer must lie outside medicine

0:23:310:23:33

cos we have tried all our medical fixes

0:23:330:23:35

and we can't do it but there are people who

0:23:350:23:38

just stay sort of unfixed,

0:23:380:23:42

and live these very, very, sort of, blighted lives really, in some ways.

0:23:420:23:48

You know. So, it is not like a minimal fix.

0:23:480:23:51

It is not like, "Just pull yourself together and get over it."

0:23:510:23:54

It is actually a blight on her life

0:23:540:23:57

and we still can't fix it.

0:23:570:23:58

-RADIO:

-It is one o'clock. The latest news now...

0:24:030:24:06

INAUDIBLE

0:24:220:24:23

Saying you've got a nice rest overnight.

0:24:270:24:29

-Just tired you out quite a bit with your physio.

-Yeah.

0:24:310:24:34

-So it is good that you're sleepy.

-Yeah.

0:24:340:24:37

Don't worry about that.

0:24:370:24:39

And you're safe and well. You are really well looked after.

0:24:420:24:46

Doctors don't know whether Stuart is aware of his surroundings

0:24:470:24:51

and so Sarah and Andrew have been encouraged

0:24:510:24:53

to interact with their dad as much as possible.

0:24:530:24:56

They play a lot of Rolling Stones and Eric Clapton

0:24:570:25:00

and things like that cos Dad's a real little rocker at heart so...

0:25:000:25:05

-He likes a bit of ELO as well.

-Yeah.

0:25:050:25:07

We start to imagine what it would be like for ourselves

0:25:090:25:13

and he must be so bored.

0:25:130:25:15

You know, we can only anticipate that he is confused

0:25:150:25:18

and he is not really quite sure what is happening so if we can be

0:25:180:25:21

here as much as we can so he can hear our voices and play him nice music...

0:25:210:25:26

Yeah, nice music when he seems more... He can rest.

0:25:260:25:30

He has tried to whistle a few times. So we know that he is enjoying it.

0:25:300:25:35

When Stuart had his heart attack, he was over 100 miles from home.

0:25:390:25:43

But he can't be moved to his local hospital

0:25:430:25:46

until an intensive care bed becomes free.

0:25:460:25:50

In the meantime, the family are being housed nearby.

0:25:500:25:55

I want to get home to my own creature comforts.

0:25:550:25:59

When I left Reading it was the end of the summer.

0:25:590:26:02

It feels like it is the start of the winter now.

0:26:020:26:05

You know, it has been nearly four weeks so...

0:26:050:26:08

We had to get into a little routine.

0:26:100:26:13

As a teacher, I am a timetable person and I like a routine

0:26:130:26:18

and we get up at the same time, we get here at the same time

0:26:180:26:21

and then they go and see their dad.

0:26:210:26:24

I guard our belongings that we have camped out with here

0:26:250:26:29

and then they come back.

0:26:290:26:32

Then it is my turn to go in and sit with him then.

0:26:320:26:34

Kevin Edmonds, please, to room 15.

0:26:470:26:50

Conor is about to start his second operation of the day to

0:26:590:27:02

relieve the pressure in Prasanna's brain.

0:27:020:27:05

It's not the surgery itself that's difficult,

0:27:090:27:11

it's more that where we are is dangerous.

0:27:110:27:14

But we have drained the first cyst nicely, we are inside it.

0:27:140:27:16

We're just going to cut away more of the wall so it doesn't come back

0:27:160:27:19

and we are going to go looking for the second cyst.

0:27:190:27:22

Most tumour operations, we expect the children to be up, talking,

0:27:270:27:32

moving, possibly eating and drinking the same night.

0:27:320:27:35

With Prasanna, I will be happy if he is awake

0:27:350:27:38

and he recognises us and he, you know, communicates with us.

0:27:380:27:43

But he has had a heavy toll, Prasanna,

0:27:450:27:47

and his mum and dad know that and they just want to stay with him

0:27:470:27:51

as long as possible with as good a quality of life as possible.

0:27:510:27:54

With his operation complete, Prasanna is taken into recovery.

0:27:580:28:01

As part of the efficiency savings facing the whole of the NHS,

0:28:060:28:11

Alder Hey has to make cuts of £33 million to its budget by 2016.

0:28:110:28:16

Fellow brain surgeon Sasha is doing her bit to cut equipment costs.

0:28:170:28:22

Oh, there will be £200,000 worth of stuff altogether, you know.

0:28:220:28:27

Because there are things up here that cost £10,000.

0:28:270:28:32

You know, it adds up and people just don't realise.

0:28:320:28:34

They think if something...

0:28:340:28:36

If you don't actually have to pay for something

0:28:360:28:38

and it is there for the taking then you just don't think, you know,

0:28:380:28:43

and that is the key thing - just to get people to think.

0:28:430:28:45

I also go round the hospital turning off lights.

0:28:450:28:48

She is pricing up all the equipment so that we know whenever...

0:28:480:28:53

I am the most expensive neurosurgeon here, by the way,

0:28:530:28:56

because I just use all the kit that I can

0:28:560:28:58

and don't worry about the cost

0:28:580:29:00

but as a part of our new striving to economise on the NHS,

0:29:000:29:06

she is pricing up all the kit so if ever we use something,

0:29:060:29:09

we know how much it costs so we will need less wasteful, hopefully. Sasha?

0:29:090:29:13

Did you yell?

0:29:130:29:15

Now that you are pricing, why don't you put 200,000 on this trolley?

0:29:150:29:19

-200,000? I can go to 99,000. £99,999.

-This was 150 grand.

0:29:190:29:25

I don't have that big a price sticker.

0:29:250:29:27

Are you really pricing everything up?

0:29:270:29:29

Yeah, look. Come and see. It's great.

0:29:290:29:31

-What is that? £60?

-£600.

-600 quid for one of these?

0:29:310:29:35

That's shocking.

0:29:370:29:38

The reason why NHS is on its feet is because these cost £430.

0:29:380:29:43

That's just ridiculous.

0:29:430:29:45

There is no competition so I think manufacturers can charge what

0:29:450:29:48

they like. We put in valves for, how much, £600?

0:29:480:29:53

At least this is good quality German engineering.

0:29:530:29:55

This is £600 for a valve.

0:29:550:29:57

But an average shunt, 400, 600, about £2,000 just in equipment.

0:29:570:30:03

Let alone the cost. And who knows how much it costs to make? 20 quid?

0:30:030:30:07

My next target is actually to get prices for re-sterilisation

0:30:070:30:11

of all the trays under here so I can price that up as well

0:30:110:30:13

so people know that if they open a tray

0:30:130:30:15

even though it can be re-sterilised and it is not disposable,

0:30:150:30:18

it still costs £150-odd to re-sterilise a tray

0:30:180:30:20

so if you open it up unnecessarily that's another £150. You know.

0:30:200:30:27

And you wouldn't do that with your own money.

0:30:270:30:29

That's my message, really.

0:30:290:30:31

-INTERVIEWER:

-Will you be less wasteful?

-No.

0:30:310:30:33

'Rationing those sorts of expenses is not my job, thank God.'

0:30:350:30:39

My job is to do the best that I can do for patients with brain tumours,

0:30:410:30:45

with the best equipment and give them

0:30:450:30:48

the best patient journey in that horrific time.

0:30:480:30:51

The beauty of NHS, particularly in surgery,

0:30:530:30:56

is that hopefully the decisions are the most pure and ethical because

0:30:560:31:01

the only thing you are focusing on is doing the right thing by that child.

0:31:010:31:05

-Hello.

-Hello, hello. How are you? Are you all right?

0:31:070:31:09

Everything is fine, everything went absolutely fine. OK? Yeah, good?

0:31:090:31:14

-He's just out of a scan and we are just waking him up.

-OK.

0:31:140:31:17

We will do another scan tomorrow just to check him

0:31:170:31:20

and then we'll see how he goes.

0:31:200:31:21

OK? All right?

0:31:220:31:24

We have many patients who come into our hospital and they say,

0:31:340:31:37

"Well, the NHS is free." The NHS has never been free.

0:31:370:31:42

We pay our taxes to have an NHS service so it has never been free.

0:31:420:31:46

Last year, the NHS spent £42 million treating overseas patients

0:31:470:31:52

who are not entitled to free healthcare.

0:31:520:31:55

So, right now, what we are going to do...

0:31:550:31:57

We have a patient in our day surgery unit and we are going to

0:31:570:32:03

interview this patient and try to confirm their status.

0:32:030:32:09

Many larger hospitals have started to employ overseas managers

0:32:090:32:12

like Carlton to try and get on top of this growing problem.

0:32:120:32:16

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

0:32:280:32:30

My name is Carlton Stephens, I'm from the overseas visitors team.

0:32:300:32:34

'My main concern is is the person entitled to NHS care and,

0:32:340:32:39

'if not, are they chargeable?'

0:32:390:32:42

-How long have you lived in the UK for?

-12 years.

-12 years.

0:32:420:32:47

-Which country are you from?

-Lithuania.

-Lithuania?

-Yes.

-OK.

0:32:470:32:51

We have been called racist.

0:32:510:32:53

We have been told that we are targeting certain groups.

0:32:550:32:59

We have been called every conceivable name you can think of.

0:32:590:33:05

But I say to my team,

0:33:070:33:10

"As long as you follow the Department of Health

0:33:100:33:13

"guidance on the interviewing and assessing of patients

0:33:130:33:17

"and their entitlement to NHS care, you cannot go wrong."

0:33:170:33:22

Do you have any form of documentation to show that you are an EU citizen?

0:33:220:33:28

-Yeah, I left other things outside.

-OK, that's absolutely fine.

0:33:280:33:32

Now, from the information that you have presented, I can tell you that

0:33:320:33:37

you are entitled to NHS care but for me to confirm that,

0:33:370:33:43

what I would like is a copy of either your passport or ID card.

0:33:430:33:47

Every year, Carlton and his team invoice over 400 overseas patients,

0:33:480:33:53

calculating the exact cost of the health care they have received.

0:33:530:33:58

-INTERVIEWER:

-How much is it to have a baby?

0:33:580:34:01

To have a baby...

0:34:010:34:03

..if it is normal delivery, with complications,

0:34:050:34:10

it will cost £1977.00.

0:34:100:34:14

-What does that mean? Is that a stroke?

-That's a stroke, yeah.

0:34:150:34:18

That's a stroke and it says for the overseas visitors,

0:34:180:34:24

the cost is 11,000...

0:34:240:34:28

So, the total cost for this is £14,408.12.

0:34:290:34:37

There is one that I gave you the other day. Yeah, this one.

0:34:400:34:43

It is going to be thousands of pounds.

0:34:430:34:49

I would say this could be in the region of up to 100,000.

0:34:490:34:56

Chemotherapy is very expensive.

0:34:560:34:59

In the last 10 years, the birth rate in Britain has increased by 20%.

0:35:110:35:16

We're going to start another drip just to give you some more fluids.

0:35:160:35:20

And keep that pan there, just to keep an eye on the colour of your water.

0:35:200:35:25

At Birmingham Women's Hospital,

0:35:250:35:27

a consultant-led delivery suite caters for the growing

0:35:270:35:30

number of women whose births have added complications.

0:35:300:35:33

I think I might change your position just to see

0:35:340:35:38

if it will help baby cos the heartbeat is

0:35:380:35:40

dipping down a little bit and sometimes

0:35:400:35:42

if the cord is just wrapped around baby somewhere it can put

0:35:420:35:45

a little bit of extra pressure on baby's heart rate.

0:35:450:35:48

24-year-old Rebecca and her partner Andy are having their fourth baby.

0:35:480:35:52

The midwives are concerned about the baby's heart rate.

0:35:530:35:57

Shall I have a little walk then, being as...

0:35:570:36:00

Or do you want me to jump on the bed?

0:36:000:36:02

Stand up for a little bit and see if that makes a difference.

0:36:020:36:04

If not we might have to just lie you on your side and see if that helps.

0:36:040:36:07

-Is that all right?

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

0:36:070:36:09

-Is the heartbeat OK, yeah?

-It is dipping down a little bit.

0:36:110:36:15

-It has got a bit low, isn't it, the heartbeat?

-Yes.

0:36:150:36:17

-Can I just feel your pulse?

-Yeah.

0:36:170:36:21

When she gets to the contractions, it does drop a bit anyway,

0:36:210:36:23

doesn't it?

0:36:230:36:25

When she gets to pushing, it can drop sometimes but we are not

0:36:250:36:29

at that stage yet so that's why we get a bit concerned and worried.

0:36:290:36:33

It's all happening.

0:36:330:36:34

I do need to get the doctors to have a little look at baby's

0:36:340:36:37

heartbeat though so stay on your side a little bit.

0:36:370:36:39

We are probably going to start another drip just to give you

0:36:390:36:42

-some more fluids.

-It's not going to be for ever, babe. You know that.

0:36:420:36:46

-I know.

-It won't be long.

-I can't wait for him to come.

-I know.

0:36:460:36:49

It won't be long. I love you.

0:36:490:36:51

Hello.

0:36:540:36:55

Rebecca, I just need to talk to you about the heart rate

0:36:590:37:03

monitoring on baby, OK?

0:37:030:37:05

What we want to know is whether baby is becoming distressed or not

0:37:050:37:09

and we can either take a little sample of blood

0:37:090:37:12

from the top of baby's head.

0:37:120:37:14

It is like doing a pinprick on your baby's head.

0:37:140:37:16

The only other option of knowing that the baby is fine is to deliver

0:37:160:37:19

-the baby.

-A Caesarean, or...?

0:37:190:37:22

-Yeah, well...

-Is this a choice you are offering or is it...?

0:37:220:37:27

No, no, I am just watching at the moment.

0:37:270:37:29

If baby's heart rate doesn't recover then we might not have a choice.

0:37:290:37:32

Do I need to push?

0:37:320:37:34

BEEPING

0:37:340:37:37

We just need to make sure baby's heartbeat is OK, sweetheart.

0:37:370:37:40

-She is still 4cm.

-Yeah, still 4cm.

0:37:400:37:44

What's happening is that this baby's heart rate has dropped.

0:37:440:37:48

-Is that the true reading there?

-That's the true reading there.

0:37:480:37:52

Oh, my God.

0:37:520:37:53

-Yeah, I think so.

-It's not worth taking the risk, is it?

0:37:530:37:56

Baby's heart rate is not coming up

0:37:560:37:58

so I think we need to take you to the operating room, OK?

0:37:580:38:02

I am so sorry, darling. You are doing so well.

0:38:020:38:06

We are going to take you to theatre straight away, darling.

0:38:060:38:09

Once you are asleep, it only takes a minute to deliver the baby.

0:38:090:38:12

It takes a bit longer to put you back together again.

0:38:120:38:15

-Is this an emergency Caesarean?

-Yes.

0:38:150:38:17

-Would I be able to be with her or not?

-If she is asleep, no.

0:38:170:38:20

It's going to be all right.

0:38:200:38:22

It is going to be over soon, darling, all right?

0:38:220:38:25

BEEPING

0:38:250:38:26

Do you want some help?

0:38:280:38:31

Follow us to theatre.

0:38:310:38:33

Do you want to just move your arm up to that?

0:38:490:38:52

What is all this traffic anyway? Has there been an accident?

0:38:520:38:55

Has she lost enough blood to fill an average mug?

0:38:550:38:58

Let's go this way.

0:39:070:39:09

-INTERVIEWER:

-Where are we going, Liz?

0:39:090:39:11

We are going to do a home visit to a patient of mine

0:39:110:39:15

who has got lung cancer

0:39:150:39:19

and is sort of receiving terminal care.

0:39:190:39:24

I kind of need to get some certain things sorted out in this family.

0:39:240:39:27

The reason why it is more difficult than you might expect

0:39:290:39:34

is that there are two sick people in this house.

0:39:340:39:38

Eric and his son.

0:39:400:39:42

And so it is an incredibly unusual and difficult situation.

0:39:420:39:47

As you will see.

0:39:470:39:48

Hello. Hello, hello. Where shall I sit? Shall I sit over there?

0:40:020:40:07

Here if you like, love.

0:40:070:40:09

Eric is in the advanced stages of lung cancer.

0:40:090:40:13

He is being cared for by his wife Betsy.

0:40:130:40:16

Their son Gary has also been diagnosed with terminal cancer.

0:40:170:40:22

So, what I am hearing is that it is understandably pretty tense

0:40:220:40:27

here from time to time. Is it pretty tense here all the time?

0:40:270:40:32

I think the trouble is we are all here all day long, all together.

0:40:320:40:37

-But you can't go anywhere. Is that the frustration?

-I can't go nowhere.

0:40:370:40:41

He is sat in here all the time.

0:40:410:40:44

The boy has asked you if you would like to go anywhere.

0:40:440:40:47

I don't want to go anywhere.

0:40:470:40:49

But then you don't want to be sat in here all the time, do you?

0:40:490:40:53

No, I don't want to go. Where do you want to go?

0:40:530:40:56

I'm just wondering if this is part of your illness that actually

0:40:560:40:59

everything is... You are fed up with it all. Yes.

0:40:590:41:03

Yes. That is it.

0:41:030:41:05

That is it, isn't it? First of all...

0:41:050:41:08

I get tired of being picked at.

0:41:080:41:11

Yeah, it's... What...

0:41:110:41:15

If we are looking into the future, if we look ahead now,

0:41:150:41:19

-we can't have you...

-Arguing.

-..arguing.

0:41:190:41:22

We can't have you like this because it is horrible, isn't it?

0:41:220:41:25

-50 bloody years, we have been together.

-BETSY:

-55.

0:41:250:41:28

Well, 55, if you want to get technical.

0:41:280:41:31

You haven't been arguing for 55 years, have you?

0:41:310:41:34

Just leave me up in bed and I'll stay up there out of the way.

0:41:340:41:38

-BETSY:

-We don't want you in bed all the time.

0:41:380:41:42

What I have got here is something we give

0:41:420:41:46

when we deal with people who, like you, to try and find out...

0:41:460:41:52

-You class me as very ill then?

-I do, yes.

0:41:520:41:54

You can't even go out any more much, can you?

0:41:540:41:56

Don't you think you are very ill?

0:41:560:41:58

Well, I am walking better today than I was yesterday.

0:41:580:42:00

You know what is happening to you at the moment, do you?

0:42:000:42:05

Well, as far as I know, I am just waiting to die.

0:42:050:42:08

Does it feel a bit hopeless to you then?

0:42:080:42:10

Well, got to, hasn't it?

0:42:120:42:15

-Anything you look forward to at the moment?

-Not really, no.

-No.

0:42:150:42:20

We should talk about where you would like to be

0:42:220:42:27

in the next few weeks and months

0:42:270:42:30

and whether here is the right place for you or whether somewhere else is.

0:42:300:42:34

And it is your choice.

0:42:340:42:36

Because this is...

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-Do you know, I think this is too much in some way?

-So do I.

0:42:380:42:42

-I don't agree with it at all.

-No.

0:42:420:42:45

I would rather have a quiet life and what is it?

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But I'm never going to get that.

0:42:480:42:51

I suppose living should be the most important thing but then...

0:42:510:42:55

..I don't see there is much in life for me.

0:42:590:43:03

That's the honest truth about it.

0:43:030:43:06

We understand that life is miserable.

0:43:060:43:08

But that is very difficult for everybody and actually...

0:43:080:43:12

..Bet needs a break and if she is going to keep looking after you,

0:43:140:43:17

she does need a break and perhaps we can help organise that.

0:43:170:43:20

Either you go somewhere for a few days where you can, you know,

0:43:200:43:25

have some nurses look after you or else we get some people in to help.

0:43:250:43:29

Where I really want to be is here and that is it and all about it.

0:43:290:43:33

This is where I should like to end up my days.

0:43:330:43:36

So, when you come to the very end, you'd like to be here.

0:43:360:43:39

Yes, I would, yes.

0:43:390:43:41

I don't know whether it is right for Bet,

0:43:410:43:44

by the time you get the undertakers in here and all the rest,

0:43:440:43:47

traipsing up and down the stairs, everybody up the house.

0:43:470:43:50

It is adding more work to her job, house cleaning

0:43:520:43:56

and all the rest of it. I don't know whether that really is the thing.

0:43:560:44:01

You can't bring all that into it, can you?

0:44:010:44:05

Everybody has to face all these problems. Everyone has to face them.

0:44:050:44:11

Would you like to have a little time away and then come back?

0:44:130:44:15

That sort of thing. Just to get a break from the... It's a bit intense.

0:44:150:44:19

-Yeah.

-We need to start thinking about these things.

0:44:190:44:23

Otherwise you guys are going to be fighting.

0:44:230:44:26

You know, it's sad, isn't it, to have to be like this?

0:44:260:44:31

I think it is terrible that we have got to be fighting.

0:44:310:44:35

The same as I have said.

0:44:350:44:37

40, 50 years together and to end up like this

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when we know we haven't got that much time to mess about.

0:44:410:44:44

OK, well, thank you for seeing us.

0:44:470:44:49

We will try and do something, try and arrange something. Yeah?

0:44:490:44:53

-INTERVIEWER:

-Tricky.

0:45:010:45:03

Tricky is understatement.

0:45:030:45:08

Such a difficult situation.

0:45:080:45:10

They're kind of locked into it and nobody seems to be able to...

0:45:100:45:14

Nobody seems to be able to find a way out. We will try and help.

0:45:170:45:22

Liz has more than a doctor's understanding of what Eric

0:45:240:45:27

and his family are going through.

0:45:270:45:29

She herself was diagnosed with cancer a year ago.

0:45:300:45:35

-Did you think you were going to die, Liz?

-Um...

0:45:350:45:39

I didn't ever...

0:45:410:45:43

No, I never got to the stage where I thought, "This is it."

0:45:430:45:46

But there were moments in my journey, as we call it,

0:45:460:45:52

my cancer journey, when I was waiting for results and things

0:45:520:45:57

such as the result of a scan and I thought, "If this is wrong...

0:45:570:46:00

"If this is the wrong result, I am going to die."

0:46:000:46:02

So, I did have the thing of sitting

0:46:020:46:04

waiting for someone to give a result that was rather like,

0:46:040:46:07

you know, he puts on his black cap and it's all over.

0:46:070:46:11

And I was lucky.

0:46:110:46:14

The news was good so I was clear but it's a sort of life-changer.

0:46:140:46:20

But it is one that makes you confront the possibility of your

0:46:200:46:23

mortality and it is very hard, I think, to have it without

0:46:230:46:27

actually at times feeling terrified that you are going to die.

0:46:270:46:30

So, um, pretty horrific.

0:46:310:46:34

Big breaths. Breathe away on that gas. That's lovely. That's it.

0:46:350:46:40

-Big breath in.

-Is Becky all right there?

0:46:400:46:44

Yeah, she is obviously a bit upset and a bit frightened but she

0:46:440:46:47

understands what is happening and she is happy with the decision, I think.

0:46:470:46:51

Nothing is going to happen to her after, though, is it?

0:46:510:46:54

-She will be all right.

-No.

-All right. Thank you.

0:46:540:46:58

Because the baby's heart rate has dropped dangerously low,

0:46:580:47:01

doctors have decided to give Andy's partner Rebecca

0:47:010:47:03

an emergency Caesarean.

0:47:030:47:05

Well, she was in distress, wasn't she?

0:47:060:47:09

The baby's heartbeat continued to drop, did it?

0:47:140:47:17

Let's hope things are OK then.

0:47:220:47:24

The last pregnancies went perfect, like, you know.

0:47:360:47:39

Couldn't wish for better ones.

0:47:390:47:41

It's hard work.

0:47:450:47:46

It has got to be hard work, ain't it, going through all the labour?

0:47:460:47:49

We can't... A male can't describe it, can he?

0:47:520:47:55

You have just got to... You know, you feel helpless. What can you do?

0:47:550:47:59

You want to be in there holding her hand, ain't it? And you can't.

0:48:020:48:05

Nothing more you can do.

0:48:050:48:07

-Coming in?

-All right, yes. Thank you.

-Sit in that green chair.

0:48:090:48:14

All we ask is that...

0:48:140:48:15

The baby's heart rate has stabilised

0:48:150:48:18

and Andy is allowed into the theatre for the birth.

0:48:180:48:21

Are you all right, baby?

0:48:210:48:23

Are you all right, honey?

0:48:270:48:29

And it is a cancer of the lining of the stomach.

0:48:380:48:41

Well, the patient we are about to see, from the information that

0:48:570:49:01

I have, I feel that there may be an issue with their status.

0:49:010:49:06

I think that they are living abroad

0:49:060:49:09

and they have come back to the UK just to seek treatment

0:49:090:49:12

and then go back to whichever country they are from.

0:49:120:49:15

In reality, what they should do is go back to their own country,

0:49:170:49:20

seek treatment there and then they can return to continue

0:49:200:49:26

whatever their business is in the UK.

0:49:260:49:28

My name is Carlton Stephens, I'm the overseas manager for King's.

0:49:360:49:40

HE CLEARS THROAT

0:49:400:49:42

Are you a British citizen or do you...?

0:49:420:49:46

-I am not a British citizen.

-OK. Are you a visitor to the UK?

0:49:460:49:50

I am not a visitor.

0:49:500:49:51

I work with a company which has business in the UK and outside UK.

0:49:510:49:55

Do you have any documentation on you at the moment with your name

0:49:550:50:00

-and address on?

-No. No. Not on me, no.

-Not on you.

0:50:000:50:05

So, what type of visa are you on?

0:50:050:50:08

Forgotten.

0:50:080:50:10

The patient may not know it but without a settlement visa

0:50:120:50:16

he is not entitled to free healthcare.

0:50:160:50:18

He says that he has a settlement visa and he told me

0:50:210:50:27

approximately around 1999.

0:50:270:50:29

So he doesn't have a settlement visa, does he?

0:50:320:50:35

Well, that's not good news.

0:50:400:50:43

It could be a simple mistake and we have to take it at face value.

0:50:430:50:47

We cannot say that he has misled us.

0:50:470:50:49

It could just be a simple mistake he forgot.

0:50:490:50:52

But I will be informing him that he is a chargeable patient and

0:50:520:50:57

he will be charged for all treatment that he is going to receive.

0:50:570:51:01

Which is a pity.

0:51:010:51:04

Because I do like him.

0:51:040:51:05

He is a very approachable man and I think he was honest with us...

0:51:050:51:11

..but not fully.

0:51:130:51:15

Because this was picked up by my team,

0:51:170:51:23

we have now been able to inform this gentleman that he will be charged,

0:51:230:51:30

we will be able to recoup the monies, I believe, in this case

0:51:300:51:34

and I think the word will get round that that is the case

0:51:340:51:39

in this trust and that is my aim -

0:51:390:51:42

to make this trust known as a trust that diligently looks for,

0:51:420:51:48

finds and bills patients that are not entitled to NHS care.

0:51:480:51:52

Very cold water. So, we have delivered your baby's head.

0:52:030:52:07

-Do we know what we are having?

-A boy.

0:52:070:52:10

Hello, little one. Hello.

0:52:110:52:15

BABY CRIES

0:52:150:52:17

Aaw.

0:52:230:52:24

-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

-Got there in the end.

0:52:240:52:28

Like a quarter of all babies born in Britain,

0:52:310:52:34

baby Joe is delivered by Caesarean section.

0:52:340:52:36

-You have got a visitor. Lift your head.

-OK. He's very well.

0:52:430:52:47

And at just three minutes old,

0:52:510:52:53

he has already cost the NHS over £2,000.

0:52:530:52:56

-Have a good weekend.

-Yeah, and you.

0:53:110:53:13

We have just got to sort out the transport, yeah.

0:53:190:53:22

Then hopefully we'll get him back later on today and he can go home.

0:53:220:53:25

Oh, Mum'll be really pleased. That's great. That's really good.

0:53:250:53:28

There's been some unexpected news for Stuart's family.

0:53:310:53:34

An intensive care bed has become free at his local hospital.

0:53:340:53:38

We are going back to Reading today.

0:53:380:53:41

-Oh, wow. Oh, fantastic.

-Yeah.

0:53:410:53:44

That's really brilliant.

0:53:520:53:54

It is very emotional. It will be very emotional to leave.

0:53:540:53:58

Cos it feels more longer than 25 days.

0:53:580:54:02

Then hope. Don't mope.

0:54:020:54:06

I was just thumbing through a magazine there

0:54:060:54:09

and I was looking at new bathrooms and things and I was thinking,

0:54:090:54:12

"No, you can't have that, Liz.

0:54:120:54:14

"You are now going to have to think in terms of if I can ever get him

0:54:140:54:18

"home, he's probably going to need things that help disabled people."

0:54:180:54:25

So it's a whole new ball game for me now.

0:54:250:54:29

Totally, totally different.

0:54:290:54:32

Let me just take that up there.

0:54:450:54:48

-How is that?

-That's not too bad.

0:54:480:54:51

After 10 hours consulting, Liz still has a backlog of patients to see.

0:54:520:54:57

That's lovely. Thank you very much.

0:54:570:54:59

Another hour and a bit and then I have to do that...

0:54:590:55:02

Hope I don't get a late visit cos a late visit is the last thing

0:55:020:55:06

you kind of want, especially if it is a difficult one, in the evening.

0:55:060:55:09

Mr Gaetani?

0:55:090:55:12

-INTERVIEWER:

-At the end of the day, Liz,

0:55:120:55:14

do you go home thinking you have done some good?

0:55:140:55:16

Today I think so, yes.

0:55:160:55:18

Today I have done some good.

0:55:190:55:21

And if you went and asked my patients, the ones who have seen me,

0:55:230:55:27

it would be interesting to hear what they say, you know.

0:55:270:55:30

And some will say, "No good at all,"

0:55:300:55:32

but a lot will say, "Yes, she sorted out the problem I had.

0:55:320:55:35

"I came with a problem, I went out feeling better than when I came in."

0:55:350:55:38

-Oh, yes.

-There's another one coming up as well.

0:55:380:55:41

It went down about a week ago then came up again.

0:55:410:55:44

-So, you need antibiotics.

-OK.

0:55:440:55:46

-To get rid of those.

-OK.

-Very good.

0:55:460:55:48

I've seen 40 people today. I made one referral to hospital.

0:55:480:55:54

But the rest I have managed here.

0:55:540:55:56

Therefore I have worked as a gatekeeper all day long.

0:55:560:55:59

This is the NHS, you know.

0:55:590:56:01

It is not expensive private medicine where everything is on offer.

0:56:010:56:05

It is a limited resource and we have to husband it

0:56:050:56:09

and I hope nobody has suffered as a result.

0:56:090:56:12

I'll see you tomorrow. See you tomorrow.

0:56:190:56:22

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