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One in four of us will face a mental health illness | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
at some point in our lives. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
We may know the statistic, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
but what do we really know about those who live with challenging conditions? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
And the working lives of those involved in their care? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
This series will bring them together, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
to tell their stories. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Whitchurch Psychiatric Hospital has been treating the mentally ill | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
in Cardiff and beyond, for over 100 years. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
The original building was a product of its time. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
And while much has changed in modern psychiatry, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
the stigma attached to housing the mentally ill in an asylum has remained. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
It's now facing its final days, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
before it closes its doors for good, in 2015. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
Staff and patients are due to be transferred to purpose-built, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
modern accommodation in a different part of the city. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
But at the very heart of this Edwardian building is the pharmacy, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
and dispensing medication from the patients on its nine wards | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
falls to the 15 staff who work here. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
As long as you get it, I'm happy. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
As a specialist mental health pharmacist, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
my job involves being based here at the hospital, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
and looking after two wards I have here. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
I look after one of the adult acute mental health wards, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
and I also am the named pharmacist for the intensive care ward. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
The interaction you get with the patients is very, very close, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
and involved, and you know, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
you really feel like you've got a really important role | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
as a mental health pharmacist, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
because you're involved in the choice of people's medications with them, | 0:01:55 | 0:02:01 | |
and I just took to it straight away. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
One of those in Gwawr's care is 36-year-old Lucy Phelps. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
She's been receiving regular reviews in medication for bipolar disorder. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
I was first diagnosed when I was 20, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
when I had an acute manic episode | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
and I was sectioned in this hospital. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
I was in my first year at university. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
I hadn't slept much at all. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
I would maybe sleep for an hour in the afternoon, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
between five and six, and at night I couldn't sleep at all. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
It was just after I'd come home for the Easter holidays, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
and I started to sort of have very strange ideas and beliefs. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
In the end, I started to believe that the whole world was going backwards. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
And that led to me going out in the night, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
because I thought that was daytime. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
And I got picked up by the police... early in the morning. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:11 | |
And that was a few hours before I ended up here. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
I thought I was somewhere where people were going to do | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
experiments on me. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
I kept trying to get out, because I hated it so much. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
The ward was locked and I was followed everywhere, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
because I kept trying to get out, because it was so horrible. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
The psychiatrist would always ask, "Do you think you're ill, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
"do you think you're ill?", and I'd say no, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
and eventually I said yes, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
and that seemed to be the key to getting out. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
And that was the beginning of a long struggle with depression, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
and rapid cycling, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
so for years I would either be depressed or manic, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
but nothing in between, really. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Mania is characterised by feelings of euphoria and self-importance, | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
that can also lead to risky behaviour without inhibition. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
The depression which can follow is in sharp contrast to this. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Lucy isn't currently working, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
but finds pleasure in her craft hobbies, at her parents' home in Penarth. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
When I'm manic it can vary. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
It can be a very exciting experience, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
everything going very fast, feeling very confident, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
needing very little sleep, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
and you can have very grandiose ideas | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
and think that you're someone very special, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and that you have special powers and things, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
but that doesn't happen to me so much, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
because I manage it before it gets to that stage. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
I experience colour in a very intense way. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
It's not so much that colours seem brighter, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
but I experience them really intensely, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and I get lots of pleasure out of putting different colours together. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
I think that's where my interest in art and craft has stemmed from. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
It's affected my life a lot, because my moods can change very suddenly, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
so it's been very difficult for me to hold down a job. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
I've had a paid job for six months, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
and then got ill, and been off sick for six months, and then resigned. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
I've done voluntary jobs and not being able to kept them | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
because I've been ill, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
even though I was only working a few hours a week. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
In the early years of my illness, I worked harder, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
working on my early warning signs, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
identified things like not sleeping, pacing up and down, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
and then, if I had early warning signs, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
I knew that I would have to take action. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
As the years have gone on, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
and as I've shown I can be trusted with medication, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
then I've had medication which I can take myself, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and then tell a health professional that I've taken it. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Because I've become unwell so quickly, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
I don't always have time to go to someone and get a prescription. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Lucy's control over her treatment | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
means she can aim to avoid readmission to hospital. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
But deciding to take medicine for the long-term is a big decision. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Tim Verdon is 50. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
He was born in the south of England, and worked as a farm hand | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and book binder before moving to Cardiff. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Tim was given a diagnosis of schizophrenia, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
a feature of which is hearing voices, 12 years ago. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
I first heard voices when I was a really young child. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
I was told that | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
that was wrong, you know, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
and I would have to ignore them, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
which I did, and they stopped. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
They started again about 12 years ago, very clearly. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Schizophrenia is commonly thought to mean a split personality, but it's | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
in fact a disorder which can cause a breakdown in thought processes. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
It can lead to hallucinations, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
such as hearing voices and seeing visions. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Tim experiences auditory hallucinations | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
in the form of voices. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
His first experience of these voices, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
it was almost as if he felt it was something supernatural, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
something outside the body, something beyond his control. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
And I guess that's a good way to describe psychosis. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
'I'd been living with people who were drinking all of the time | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
'and who just wanted a fight, so I'd started drinking for some | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
'sort of Dutch courage to deal with the violence that was going on. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
'When the voices came back,' | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
one of the girls that I hear was saying to me, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
"Don't leave us now. Don't leave us." | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
'That was the only thing that really stopped me | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
'drinking at that time, was the voices.' | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
I can have a dialogue with these voices or these people. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
They hear what I think and reply to it. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
They realise that, you know, I'm in a difficult | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
position as far as culture and society's concerned, you know? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
Would view us probably as dangerous | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
or weird or freaks or whatever. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I'm sure some people would like to burn us at the stake | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
if they could get away with it still, you know? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Tim would be vulnerable if he were to talk to people | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
he meets about his symptoms, or talk openly in the street to his voices. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
It would be the fact that perhaps members of the public | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
wouldn't necessarily understand. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
But, certainly one thing I've learnt is it's not anything to fear. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
Tim's been offered medication to make the voices go away, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
but he's chosen not to take it. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-TIM: -'The voices have supported me quite a lot, some of them. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
'So, you know, I would rather that I can hear voices. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
'The idea of having a world that you can't see' | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
where the spirits of people of a previous generation are living in, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
effectively, that is how I interpret the voices that I hear, because | 0:09:22 | 0:09:28 | |
of their individual characters, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
their individual accents. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
And it's people that I hear speaking to me. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
So, I've had to look for a context to put that into. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
-PHILLIP: -Tim's got some books going back three, four centuries, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
about people who hear voices, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
and they were perhaps deemed to be the special ones, the chosen ones. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
People who can see into the future, who can hear the dead, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
people who can communicate with the spirit world. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Erm... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
..I guess because I've got an open mind, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
I judge every case individually. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
I haven't got necessarily a firm view on it either way. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
When this hospital was opened in 1908, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
the choice of medication was very, very limited. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Certainly in the beginning, it was often sedative medications only, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
because there weren't treatments as search, so they relied on | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
sedatives to help people with anxiety | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
and agitation and aggression. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Dr Goodall, who was the first medical superintendent here, actually had | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
his own mosquitoes that he infected with malaria | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
in order to treat general paralysis of the insane, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
which is an end-stage feature of syphilis. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
The idea behind using mosquitoes infected with malaria | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
was that the high temperatures caused by the malaria | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
would kill the syphilis bacteria. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
And, of course, it did work, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
but unfortunately the patient then was infected with malaria. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Obviously, our understanding of illnesses associated with | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
the brain are better now than they were, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
certainly when this place opened, but still we've got an awful lot | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
to learn, because it's such a complex disease. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-LUCY: -I have a real horror of coming back into hospital. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
I would do anything to avoid coming back into hospital. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Anything, especially in the early years. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
That was what motivated me to take control myself. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
'But as things have gone on and turned out, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
'if I hadn't learnt how to take control, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
'my life would just be going in and out of hospital,' | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
and I have a much higher quality of life | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
by managing things in the way that I do. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
'I have a lot more freedom.' | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
BUZZER | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Hello. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
Lucy's at Whitchurch Hospital for a routine monthly meeting | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
with Gwawr to discuss her treatment. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Lucy's tolerance to medication is very, very | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
what you'd describe as sensitive, I think, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and we have to be extremely careful with the doses that we use. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
'Whenever we try something new, we exercise great care.' | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
OK? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
-LUCY: -'The help I get from Gwawr is vital, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
'because if I can talk to somebody quickly,' | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
I can stay in control. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
You're not feeling any different yet, I don't suppose? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
I do feel less tired, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-but I'm still very tired. -Mmm. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
In that this week I had to get up quite a lot... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
..and it's been really difficult. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
I think the opinion of the person taking the medication | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
is extremely important. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
'I mean, quite possibly, Lucy's an exception, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
'because she does manage her illness so well, but certainly | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
'things are moving in the direction where patients themselves | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
'with the illness are having more of a say' | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
in their treatment. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I think it's really hard for people who've never had | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
a long-term condition to understand the kind of relationship that | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
'you build up over many years. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
'And I feel one of the battles you have as a psychiatric patient' | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
is to try and get people to not treat you as a psychiatric patient. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Because people can be very patronising | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
and you can be left in situations where you're completely powerless. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
I'm just a bit concerned that you're sleeping as much as you are, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and if I can do something about it with the combination, then... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
But, on the same side, if that's going to be stressful, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
thinking about, "Is my sleep going to go off again?" | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
I think I'd like to leave things the same until I get back again. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
'You know, it's often not very pleasant to have to take medication' | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
long term, so a lot of it's to do with education. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
'We have a very good relationship, from the point of view that | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'I never say what she should do with the medication. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
'We have an equal discussion, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
'I would say, and I'm very much guided' | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
by Lucy as to when we do dose changes, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
because it's only when she's ready to do dose changes. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
And any actual medication changes, again, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
I'm very much guided by Lucy as to when she's ready. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-LUCY: -'She treats me like an adult. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
'She understands that drugs have side effects. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
'It's not easy making the decision to take a drug and to stay on it. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
'And one of the things Gwawr will always do, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
'if we start something new, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
'is to increase it very, very gradually to give me | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
'more chance of tolerating it.' | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
TIM: There are a group of people that I hear and that I plan things | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
and I talk with. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
We like to get away from it all sometimes, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
and this seems a suitable place to escape to, you know? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
I'm sort of not here on my own, you know? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
No-one can really imagine it, but I am here with a group of people. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
There's four girls that I hear, women that I hear, and two blokes. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Generally, it's the women who are more intelligent, more friendly. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
TIM: 'Just the freedom, the feeling of being with nature, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
'I just really like it. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
'I like that connection of being amongst that.' | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
I like looking at a robin and seeing the robin's looking back at me. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
'It is what I prefer, you know? It's a lot more comfortable.' | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
'Nurses come, people come, doctors come and they go. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
'And the people that I hear, I'm still talking with. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
'They're still with me. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
'My sort of loyalty is towards them, basically.' | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
If we'd met Tim | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
or if someone came to the service perhaps 20 or 30 years ago, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
I think we would probably be more concerned about | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
trying to eradicate those symptoms | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
and trying to normalise the person, if that's the right word. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
Tim sees aspects of his symptoms as being a kind of gift... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
and...an insight, a special insight. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Almost a sixth sense. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
So, it's something that I wouldn't want to take away. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
I view them as real people, and nothing will change my mind | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
that they are actual real spirits | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
of people who've passed on. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
I refuse the idea that I was told by psychiatrists that this is | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
a disease, that it will get worse and that's the end of it, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
and I must treat it with pills while I can. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
The Hamadryad Hospital in Cardiff Bay is home to | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
one of the seven Community Mental Health Teams | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
in Cardiff and the Vale. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
Nurse Phil Ball is preparing to visit Tim to draw up a new | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Care and Treatment Plan. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
I certainly believe that medication can help. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
We've seen people whose lives have been transformed through | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
medication, and they're able to lead the lives they were | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
leading before they experienced the psychotic episode and illness. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
'By the same token, I liked Tim. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
'I know people who've developed ways of coping with their experiences' | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
and can also lead fairly full lives. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
TIM: 'I don't really like interacting | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
'with the Community Mental Health Team | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
'as a rule, but I know when the nurse would be coming, I'd get | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
'stressed out before they came, then they would depose their things on me' | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
as to what I should be doing and the medication | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
and what I'm supposed to think. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
And then they would leave | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
and it would take me a few days to get over their visits. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
But my nurse at the moment, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
he seems reasonably tolerant, you know? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Hello, there! How are you? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Tim's had some poor experiences in the past where | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
he hasn't been listened to, or he's experienced, perhaps... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
..maybe a purely medical approach to his illness. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Now, I haven't seen you for a couple of weeks, Tim. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
How have things been in the last three or four weeks with you | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
and your voices, for example? | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-I've been all right with the people, the voices. -Mmm. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
They've just been moaning about sort of modern society | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
and the Olympic Games | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and having to see the Spice Girls put up as an icon of British culture. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
The Care and Treatment Plan actually focuses in on the various | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
aspects of people's functioning. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
'Their social life, their recreational life, their living needs.' | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Something I want to go through with you today | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
is the Care and Treatment Plan. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
And part of what we were saying last time about how you | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
manage your what we would call illness, OK? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
I know, it's your experience. How you manage your experience. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
It's something that you do manage, seem to manage, very well. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Bottom line is, you tell me what you think you need, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
I'll see if I can go away and help you with it. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
-If I can't, I'll try and find someone who can. -All right. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
The main part of work is to reassure people. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
It's to try and gently reinforce reality with people, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
try and help people rationalise their thoughts. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
'I think, in Tim's case, he's learned to live with the voices, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
'so the role for myself and perhaps the team should be to maintain | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
'Tim's quality of life' | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
and help him continue to live with the voices. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
It's not a given that we try to take people's voices away from them. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:39 | |
-So, you're prescribed this regularly. -Yeah. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-But she don't take it? -No. -OK. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
It's a reassurance if things go, you know, bottom-up, as it were. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
But I've not been taking it, it's just there in case. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
TIM: 'I don't view it as an illness. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
'I view it as a natural part of my life, the way it should have been.' | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
To me, it seems as if that makes sense of who I am, really. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:09 | |
-OK, Tim. I shall see you in a few weeks, OK? -Right. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
-It's been nice talking today, as ever. -All right. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
All right, take care. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
And don't forget, I'm there if you need me, all right? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
-Seriously. All right. -Thank you, pal. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
'I think Tim's come out the other side, almost, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
'and he's found some positives with regards to his experiences.' | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
And that's quite refreshing for me and it's a learning curve for me. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Allowing me to instil hope in others, as well, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
where they feel their lives are unravelling. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Tim's perhaps an example of how you can turn it round a little bit. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
TIM: 'The doctors, you know, say that I'm different, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
'say that I've got this, that and the rest of it. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
'I'm let them carry on with that and I think' | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
in a hundred years' or more's time, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
scientists will have to come to the conclusion | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
that there is a bit more going on than a simple disease. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Hopefully, Tim's involvement in this programme will go some way | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
to reminding people that Tim's a normal guy. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
He just sees the world a little differently. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Lucy's spending time on holiday with her family on the Isle of Wight, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
and finding the opportunity to enjoy one of her greatest pleasures. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
-LUCY: -'If I can read, it generally means that I'm feeling OK.' | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
The idea that you can escape into a book | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and into another world has always been how I've coped. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
'One of the hardest things about my illness is having that taken away, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
'so to be able to do it is just wonderful. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
'And it's something you don't think about you have a mood disorder, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
'but mood is fundamental to everything.' | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
So if you have a mood disorder, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
you can't actually ever switch off from it. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
So, you can't just switch off and escape into a book, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
unless you feel well. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
But although the holiday offers a welcome chance to relax, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Lucy can't take a break from the daily doses of medication. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
This is quetiapine, which is the drug that I've been | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
building up gradually over a year, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
which we're hoping will work as a mood stabiliser. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
This is zopiclone, which is a sleeping tablet. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
This is lorazepam, which would be very difficult to be prescribed with | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
someone who doesn't know me, because it's a benzodiazepine, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
which is potentially addictive. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
This is temazepam, which is another benzodiazepine... | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
..which I take to help me sleep, but I wouldn't take these two together, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
cos that would be really bad. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
On risperidone, which is this one, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
which I still have to take, if you increase the dose | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
of that one you get terrible stiffness, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
which is like a form of Parkinson's disease | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
and you need to take another anti-stiffness drug on top of that. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
And it would make knitting, which I do for relaxation... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I couldn't knit, because my fingers would be too stiff. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
It would be difficult for me to put my shoes on. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
I had difficulty turning taps on and off. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
Difficulty using mobile phones. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
So when you most need to be in contact, you get quite cut-off. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
Which is horrible. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
I like to be my own psychiatrist, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
my own pharmacist, my own everything. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
And then I respond best | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
to professionals who understand that I'm very well informed. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
But I will listen to them, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
because I know they're more informed than me. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Yeah, I like to be an expert patient, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
that's quite important to me. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
'But I feel that I've been put in this position by the fact | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
'that I've had so many relapses. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
'And one of the reasons I wanted to do this filming was because whenever | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
'I've heard somebody with bipolar being interviewed in the media,' | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
they always say, "Oh, I became ill, then I took this lithium, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
"then I came off lithium, and I had a bad relapse. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
"Then I did it again, and now I've learnt and I'm just going to | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
"stay on lithium and I'm fine, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
"and I grow my own vegetables and everything's fine." | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
And I end up screaming at the radio, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
because my experience of bipolar is not that I can just take | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
medication as prescribed and everything will be OK. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
I've always done that and I've always had lots of relapses. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
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