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This is Port na Spaniagh, that's Spanish Bay. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
And that great cavern behind me is Spanish Cave, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
and beyond it is the Spaniard's Rock. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
Lurking among these Spanish names, there's still one that's Old Irish. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
Lacada Point - the Long Stone. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
A vicious fang of black basalt looking like some terrible trap | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
set to trigger disaster. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
When that trap was sprung, two men separated by 400 years | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
were united by this bay. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
One, Spanish nobleman Don Alonso Martinez de Leiva, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
was brought here by fate and bad luck. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
The other, Belgian adventurer Robert Stenuit, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
came here lured by the prospect of Spanish gold. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
So, what did happen here? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
Why is this part of Ireland's North Antrim coast | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
so indelibly marked by the hand of Spain? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
The Giant's Causeway. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
A wild and stunning landscape | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
where visitors can face the full fury of these Atlantic rollers. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Their beguiling beauty hides a fearsome legacy. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
This coast is littered with shipwrecks. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
Within sight of the Causeway is one of Ireland's most significant wreck sites. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:54 | |
Port na Spaniagh. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
So inaccessible, it's best seen from a boat. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
So important, it's protected by an Act of Parliament. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Anchoring here could get you arrested. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Diving the treacherous reefs below these towering cliffs | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
could land you in prison. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
It's 40 years since Robert Stenuit and Marc Jasinski first came here, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
intrigued by the secrets that might lie below, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
unaware that their lives would change utterly. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
There are landscapes and places and events which mark you for ever, I guess. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
And this is certainly one of them. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
74-year-old Robert has been a trail-blazing professional diver for 50 years. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
He made the world's first prolonged deep dive, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
living and working for nearly three days | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
at a depth of more than 400 feet. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
But this Argonaut of the deep had bigger dreams. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
An historian by training, Robert was determined to excavate | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
a shipwreck loaded with gold and history, in equal measures. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
What happened here was so important for me. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
It's one major landmark in my life, really. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
Really. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
It was also a major landmark in European history. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
A tragedy rooted in religious division and political ambition. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
A seismic struggle far from Ireland's volcanic north coast. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
The Spanish Armada. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Catholic Spain's doomed attempt to invade Protestant England. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
In May 1588, 130 ships of the "most fortunate fleet", | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
as the Spanish called their Armada, set sail. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Spain's King Philip had ordered the destruction of England's Navy | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
and the removal of the Protestant heretic, Elizabeth, from the English throne. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
At the Armada's heart was one of the most unusual warships then afloat. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
The galleass Girona. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Part galley and part galleon, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
she was meant to be Spain's decisive weapon in the war at sea. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Bristling with 50 guns and powered by oars as well as sail, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
she had a press-ganged crew of convicts and other unfortunates. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
Not the kind of men to be trusted with gold and jewels. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
A very nice American, John Cotter, was writing a book about treasures | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
and it's in his book that I heard | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
about the Girona for the first time. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
By the 16th century, Spain was the world's only superpower. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
An elite few controlled the huge wealth of this vast empire. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
One of them stood head and shoulders above all others. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
Don Alonso Martinez de Leiva, Knight of Santiago | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
and Commander of Alcuescar. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
He had behind him a remarkable career as a seaman and as a warrior. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:27 | |
He was the darling of everyone, including King Philip. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
This is the only possible image of Don Alonso we have. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
El Greco painted his portrait of A Man Of The House Of De Leiva before the Armada sailed. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
An X-ray made in 1945 revealed his Cross of Santiago. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
The Knights of Santiago are one of Spain's most prestigious military orders. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Why Don Alonso's cross has been over-painted is a mystery that only adds to his allure. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
He was like a movie character, he had a reputation of being recklessly brave. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
It was Don Alonso who King Philip charged with masterminding the invasion of England. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:09 | |
As soon as it was known that he was joining the Armada, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
all the young noblemen rushed to join him, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
eager to serve under him. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
This young elite who rushed to Don Alonso were arrogant and confident. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
They even sailed with their finest clothes and jewels, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
ready for their victory march into London's Westminster Abbey. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
But these bejewelled Spanish peacocks were outfought and outwitted by England's sea dogs. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:54 | |
The Spanish Armada was forced out of the English Channel | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
and into the North Sea. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
With the wind and Elizabeth's navy driving them north, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
there was only one course home to Spain. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
The long haul round Scotland and Ireland. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
A disastrous battle was about to be eclipsed by a desperate struggle to survive. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
Throughout the August and September of 1588, storms raged across the Atlantic. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
Hurricane winds and mountainous seas scattered the Spanish warships and supply vessels, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
forcing many onto the wild Irish coast. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
On board one was an Irish sailor, James Machary. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Captured and interrogated by the English in Ireland, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
his testimony still exists today. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
James Machary was on board the supply ship Santa Ana. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
Battered and bedraggled though her crew were after eight nightmarish weeks at sea, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
they had managed to run for safety into this bay. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
But as well as the prospect of shelter and fresh food and water, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
the sailors saw something unexpected and utterly shocking - | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
one of the greatest warships of the Spanish Armada, beached and helpless on a sandbank just out there. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:14 | |
She was La Rata Santa Maria Encoronada, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Don Alonso's ship. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
She had been abandoned. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
For Don Alonso, this was no longer about war and invasion. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
This was about his personal duty to look after his men. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
Convinced he was alone and trapped in Ireland, Don Alonso got everyone ashore. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
He torched La Rata Encoronada, leaving nothing for the English to get their hands on. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
Here, at Doona Castle, the stranded Spaniards dug themselves in. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Then, just as they were preparing to make a stand against their enemies in Ireland, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
the Santa Ana appears on the horizon and changes everything. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
It's a glimmer of hope. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
He realises that instead of fighting to the death here in Ireland, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
there was a chance to get himself and his men all the way home to Spain. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
Machary said, "They came aboard carrying all the goods of any value they had on their ship. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
"Plate, apparel, money, weapons, armour and jewels." | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
Now overloaded with men and treasure, the Santa Ana slipped out of Blacksod Bay. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
But she was blown north and, for the second time in a week, Don Alonso was driven ashore. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
This time in Donegal. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
He abandoned ship and as he again prepared to fight, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
locals told him there was yet another Spanish warship just 20 miles away. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Their only option now was to tramp all the way across | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
the Donegal mountains to Killybegs | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
to meet that third Spanish warship waiting in the harbour. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
But Don Alonso would have to be carried by his men every step of the way. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
While abandoning the Santa Ana, Don Alonso's leg had been badly crushed. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
It took them a day's march to get here. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
But sure enough, when they arrived, there was a Spanish Armada ship in the harbour. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
She had been badly mauled after her weeks at sea, but she was still afloat. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
And this was no ordinary warship... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
she was the galleass Girona. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
A ship built for war in the Mediterranean and never designed for this wild Irish weather. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
But for 1,300 desperate Spaniards from three Armada ships, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
the Girona was the only way out. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Just before midnight on 26th October 1588, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
Don Alonso and his 1,300 comrades set sail from Killybegs harbour aboard the Girona. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
But he had taken a huge gamble. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
They weren't heading south towards Spain. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Instead, he was going to try and make a quick dash towards the north and east, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
hoping to find sanctuary in Catholic Scotland. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
But to the English, Don Alonso was still capable of wreaking havoc. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
1,300 of Spain's finest in a heavily armed warship off the Irish coast | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
was a dangerous and potent enemy. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
King Philip of Spain was desperate for news of Don Alonso. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
So, too, was the Protestant Queen Elizabeth of England. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
As far as she was concerned, there was still a very real danger of a Spanish invasion from Ireland. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:56 | |
Both monarchs would have to wait several months to hear anything at all. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
But people living on Antrim's Causeway Coast knew almost at once the fate of the Girona. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
Dunluce Castle has dominated this coast for more than 800 years. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
It was home to the McDonnells, Lords of Antrim and, despite English annoyance, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
still masters of this corner of Ireland for much of the 16th century. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Nothing happened on this coast without James McDonnell knowing about it. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
James McDonnell must have received a visit from a guy panting | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
from having run from above the cliff | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
and having seen this huge mass of wood, cannons and dead bodies. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
McDonnell gave shelter to five Spaniards, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
the only survivors he found amongst the wreckage of an Armada warship they called the Girona. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
More than 1,250 people drowned. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
Then he organised, shall we say, the recovery of the gold and jewellery. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
Some time on the 27th October 1588, the Girona lost her rudder in heavy seas. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:16 | |
The galleass had been the last hope for 1,300 fearful Armada survivors. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:24 | |
By the next dawn, and almost within sight of Scotland, she would be their coffin. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
The English were very eager to recover all the gold | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
because the Queen wanted it all for her, of course. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
No question, "I'm the Queen, it's mine." | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
And the guns also. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
And the McDonnells get nothing at all. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
They'd scavenged the Queen's ransom from bodies littering the beach. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Riches that paid for a new Elizabethan manor house. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
But the McDonnells knew there was more gold just out of reach on the sunken ship, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
and they were determined that no-one else would find it. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
They invented a totally wrong location for the wreck. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
They said the wreck had occurred on the Rock of Bunboyce. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
The Rock of Bunboyce is between Dunluce and the Giant's Causeway, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
beside the village of Portballintrae. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
In 1589, an English warship was dispatched to locate all the Armada wrecks in Ireland. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
She failed to find any trace of the Girona. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
An official report prepared for Queen Elizabeth | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
stated that Don Alonso had drowned when the Girona sank at the Rock of Bunboyce. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
McDonnell's spin had worked. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
From then on, Bunboyce was officially marked as the Girona wreck site. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
The galleass, along with the Knight of Santiago and his treasure, disappeared. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
# You're everywhere and nowhere, baby | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
# That's where you're at... # | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
1967...the summer of love. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
# ..Hillside | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
# In your hippy hat... # | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Heady days for two young Belgian divers in a little sports car, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
searching for a sunken treasure ship lost somewhere close to the world-famous Giant's Causeway. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
THEY SPEAK IN FRENCH | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
'I was working for an American company who was supplying | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
'diving services to the offshore oil industries. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
'One day, I took a leave of absence, and my leave of absence is still going!' | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
IN FRENCH | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Robert Stenuit invited his friend Marc Jasinski to join him. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Marc is a self-taught and pioneering underwater photographer and film-maker. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
It's an adventure of a life. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
In a place like this, in this ocean, with all the historical background, you go. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:56 | |
Marc had designed and built his own underwater camera system, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
one of the first in the world capable of filming in colour. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
The third member was Marc's wife Annette, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
an experienced diver equally fascinated by sunken treasure. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
'There was some treasure-hunting going on at the time. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
'But then, Robert doesn't want only to recover marvellous things from the sea. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:23 | |
'People are important. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
'Their history is important.' | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Portballintrae! | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
'He wants to understand what happened. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
'Don Alonso was the best among his peers.' | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
He was a warrior and a fabulously famous and respected man. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:45 | |
I was alone in my field. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
His jewels would be worth a lot of money, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
but finding them could bring Robert an even bigger prize. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Fame and respect in the new discipline of underwater archaeology. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
Why is gold valuable to us today? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
The gold from the sea? Because it was the most valuable thing to the people who died with the Girona. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
It was already the most important thing. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
People would cross the seas and risk death a thousand times, for what? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
For gold. So if it was so important to them, it must be important to us. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
Stenuit had been searching methodically for evidence of the Girona's legendary lost treasure. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Now, after 10 years, that hunt brought him to Portballintrae. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
-It was an ideal starting point for us. -We had everything we needed. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
We had sheltered water, a parking place and nobody around except the villagers at the time. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:48 | |
Portballintrae was also the perfect place to keep a dive for Armada gold under wraps. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:56 | |
Robert was convinced that he had unravelled McDonnell's spin and had pinpointed the wreck site. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:03 | |
Amazingly, all he had done was look for clues on a map. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
What happened was that in the 19th century, when the first version of this map was made, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
the geographers came and asked everyone around. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
How was this place named, and how was this place named, and why? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
And people told them that Spanish Rock and Spanish Cave or Spanish Cove, why? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:27 | |
Because the Spaniards were lost there. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
There was a very vivid memory of what had happened there. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
But just as it had done for Don Alonso, Irish weather showed its hand. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
For days, Stenuit had to hang around a local guest house. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Frustrated that he was unable to dive, Robert could only take the long walk out to Port na Spaniagh. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:50 | |
You spend hours and hours, months, sometimes years, imagining the site. | 0:18:53 | 0:19:00 | |
You imagine it from what you've seen in the records, in the old books, in what the witnesses told. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:10 | |
And then the shock comes when you see the real thing. You compare it | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
to the idea you had built in your mind, and here, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
the real thing is a thousand times better than what I could imagine. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
In a single night 400 years ago, nearly 1,300 Spaniards died here. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
When you are confronted with a spot like this, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
you stop for a few minutes to reflect on what happened here. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
I was imagining 1,000 corpses lying down there, and it was a dreadful thought. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:45 | |
The landscape is a perfect setting for a famous shipwreck disaster. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
It seems that it has been made in Hollywood | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
for a film on shipwreck. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
And we were really...really awed. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
But Robert and Marc weren't the first divers | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
to have a gut feeling about the place locals called Port na Spaniagh. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
Others had already braved this churning cauldron of jagged rocks and foam. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
I had a peculiar Hollywood misconception with the masts still in situ | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
and wisps of canvas blowing in the current up at the Causeway. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:34 | |
And the usual skeleton at the wheel. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
Bushmills Whiskey blender John MacLennan was one of Ireland's earliest skin divers. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:48 | |
In 1962, five years before Robert Stenuit arrived, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
John dived at Port na Spaniagh by himself and wearing home-made gear. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:58 | |
I was diving around the Spanish Rock, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
which obviously had some connection with the Armada in my garbled thinking at the time. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
I realised I was spontaneously travelling down the coast | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
and that I was in a four- or five-knot current which was taking me along. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
I emerged over on the eastern side of Port na Spaniagh... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
..and made a very painful walk back across the rocks in my bare feet! | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
And carrying my fins! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Others had dived there with a lust for just one thing... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Gold! | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Alan Wilson and three diving colleagues | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
were members of the newly formed Belfast branch of the British Sub Aqua Club. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
Young and cocky, Alan was bullish about finding the Girona's fabled gold. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
We had tried to dive the site a couple of years before Stenuit. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
We drove the cars down along the causeway as far as we could, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
and then we humped all the diving bottles | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
and weight belts down onto the site, down the cliff. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
We got into the tide and the waves washed us away! | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
There was a real danger of others finding the Girona before Robert could. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
Then, on the 27th June 1967, the Irish weather lifted and Stenuit finally had the chance to dive. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:33 | |
THEY TALK IN FRENCH | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Today is not at all typical. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
'We knew it would be rough. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
'We knew the sea would be cold, the swell, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
'and that proved to be true.' | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Robert was going to dive alone. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Annette would support him from the surface and Marc would wait in the dinghy with his camera. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:59 | |
They would record Robert's account of what happened. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
I dived first in the middle of Port na Spaniagh and didn't find anything, then I went offshore. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:25 | |
I found a very characteristic bottom made of huge boulders with deep crevices in between. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:36 | |
And all covered with very thick and very high seaweed, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
which the swell kept moving back and forth so you could hardly see the bottom at all. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
I was waiting in the Zodiac with my wife. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
We were sure something would happen. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Suddenly I arrived at a kind of underwater cliff, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
which is the east side of the point, and suddenly I saw a white object. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
Robert was pretty sure of what he was doing. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
We expected to find the wreck at that spot. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I recognised an elliptic shape. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Very thick in the middle and getting narrower at the ends. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
They were raw material to make bullets for the muskets. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
It took only a few minutes, it was unbelievable. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
I looked at it and I could see five Jerusalem crosses, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
which is a typical Spanish marking, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
so I knew this was part of the wreck. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
That's the very moment when this happened. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
-You snapped that right when he returned? -Yes. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Can you grin any more(?) | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
In a wetsuit. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
It's the grin of a lifetime. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
But Robert hadn't come this far just to find lead. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
What he really needed was Don Alonso's gold. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Next to it, loose with the gravel and the little stones, were pieces of eight. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:10 | |
With the cross. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
Pieces of eight?! That's Treasure Island stuff! | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Silver pieces of eight from Mexico. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
So I knew it could not have been another Spanish wreck | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
of that period on this part of the coast except the Girona. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Beautiful. It's quite something. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Robert, Marc and Annette spent more than a week diving around Port na Spaniagh. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
They all made more exciting and important finds. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Robert located a bronze cannon lying where it had fallen on that dreadful night 400 years before. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:58 | |
Marc found an anchor. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
And his wife Annette was delighted with a Spanish gold escudo. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Not many people at all find treasure. Sunken treasure. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
No treasure. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
This has never been a treasure hunt, never. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
It was always researching history. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Finding gold and jewels underwater - that adds a certain frisson to the experience! | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
Of course! I wouldn't deny that. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
I don't pretend to be a saint. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
I fully expected what I found. Fully. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
To go out into that... into that greyness | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and in the first place you go into the water, you find the gold of the Girona? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
Yes. But I was not surprised. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
Perhaps I was of a more optimistic nature than I am now! | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
Despite the smiles, their optimism was tempered by very real concerns. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
If news of what they had found leaked out, Port na Spaniagh would be invaded, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
overrun by treasure-hunters only too eager to get their hands on some Girona gold. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:20 | |
We can be quiet when needed, and we definitely believed that was a time to be quiet. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
In no situation to talk too much about this discovery because we had no legal powers | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
on the wreck at that time. So we had to be very careful. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
Robert had already decided that the safest place for the treasure they had uncovered so far | 0:27:37 | 0:27:43 | |
was where it had lain for the last four centuries - on the seabed. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
So, apart from a few choice pieces of gold that they needed to prove to other people what they had found, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:53 | |
they stashed everything in an underwater cave. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
Robert couldn't afford to stay here in Ireland any longer. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
So, despite the very real risk that some treasure-hunting rival | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
would find his Girona site before he could come back, he went to London. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
The end of 1967 and the start of 1968 were cold and anxious months for Robert. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:25 | |
Finding the Girona had been the easy part. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Recovering its treasure would be far more difficult. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
That would take money, something Robert didn't have. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
He invited Henri Delauze, president of the French diving company COMEX, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
to London's newly opened Playboy Club. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Dazzled by some Girona gold brought from Port na Spaniagh, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Delauze promised support for Stenuit's ambitious plan to recover the treasure. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
Robert raised finance with publishing deals for a book and magazine articles. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
Then the BBC contracted Marc Jasinski to film their expedition. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
This collaboration would produce the world's first colour documentary | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
of an underwater archaeological excavation. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
'We came back in late April of 1968. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
'Francis Dumont, a young student in architecture, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
'was to draw up the maps, the charts, sketches of the objects. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
'Then I had two French professional divers... | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
'Louis Gros, who had been trained by the French Navy in explosive disposal, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:44 | |
'and Maurice Vidal, who was a combat diver from the French Navy. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:50 | |
'A lot was at stake. There was a big team, there were several professional divers paid by COMEX. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:04 | |
'A lot of expensive equipment we were using, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
'which was loaned by Henri Delauze, the president of COMEX. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
'So we had better get results.' | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
But Robert was confident about what his team was going to find. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
'We're not talking of a wreck like in the movies or a wreck very well preserved.' | 0:30:26 | 0:30:34 | |
He was more concerned about the treasure trove he had stashed the summer before. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
Was it still there? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Or had the site already been raided? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Reassured that everything was as he had left it, Robert set his team to work. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
One must understand that the site has been subjected to tremendous gales for nearly four centuries | 0:30:57 | 0:31:03 | |
and all parts of the ship and its cargo have been scattered | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
from the main site of the wreck in all directions, like dead leaves in a storm. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:14 | |
The first thing we made was a map of the physical features of the bottom. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
Before we salvaged any objects, we very carefully plotted them. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:33 | |
We started from both sides of Lacada Point | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
and then dug every square foot to the bedrock. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
The gold and the silver, as most metal objects, had finally found their way to the deepest crevices. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:54 | |
We must dig under the boulders and see what's underneath. | 0:31:54 | 0:32:01 | |
It meant a lot of work, a lot of hardship, a lot of discomfort, but these people were used to that. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:14 | |
These were tough guys. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:15 | |
But they were soon driven by the same enthusiasm as Robert was and as I was. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:25 | |
When lifting rocks, we used large inflatable balloons made of nylon line and rubber. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:35 | |
When you start lifting a six-tonne boulder, the moment it gets lighter, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
it starts jumping back and forth with every swell. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
It's really a frightening sight. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
In the beginning, we thought, "There is the bedrock", then we had another look, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
there was a little cranny, a little crack in the bedrock, so we broke the bedrock | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
and there were more coins underneath what we thought was the bedrock. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
The team were uncovering dozens of Spanish gold and silver coins, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
money that must have fallen from noblemen's pockets 400 years before. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
But there was still no sign of the Cross of Don Alonso de Leiva. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
I could see a bit of gold between two big stones, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
and I knew that if I put my crowbar there, I would have crushed it. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
I worked all around so that the boulders would fall by themselves, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
but by doing that, I had to destroy the pillars of the cave. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
Robert hadn't found the cross, but what he had uncovered was no less exciting. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
A little lizard, fashioned from solid gold and still studded with rich, red rubies. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:54 | |
I took it in my hand and it glanced at me sideways | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
for a long, long time, and then it smiled at me and showed me all the little teeth it has in its mouth. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
It was a salamander, a mythical creature that legend said could put out flames. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
Salamanders were carried as good luck charms to guard against the thing that sailors feared most - | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
fire on board ship. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
When I finally got it, yes, I think I kissed it, I really kissed it. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
We had not brought enough to combat the cold. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:34 | |
So after a few hours of wearing those suits in the water, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:40 | |
you get completely exhausted. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
At home, I always had plenty of hot water to shower after diving. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
Here, there was just enough for one guy and it was always the chief. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:10 | |
So he got the hot water and we got the shower with the tepid or quite cold water. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
I've heard that story before! | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
It gets better every time! | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
The simple facilities of Portballintrae guest house suited Robert. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
It was quiet and anonymous and no-one asked about why they were there. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
I was the waitress in the morning and I would do their breakfast. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
And they got a choice of orange juice, cornflakes or porridge. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
And they would have porridge. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
But they didn't know what to put in the porridge | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
so they put marmalade in it | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
and then they put raspberry jam in it | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
and then they stirred the raspberry jam in it | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
and I used to think this was just unbelievable. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
In 1968, the Manor House was owned and run by the McConaghy family. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
Robert and Marc haven't seen the McConaghy girls in nearly 40 years. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
Nice to meet you again. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
-Yes, it's very moving to meet you. -It's so good to meet you. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
-Hello, Robert. How are you? -Very well. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
It's nice to meet you again. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
-I'm Helen. -After so many years. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
'They were different and they were interesting. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
'You were a curious child, you wanted to know what they were doing. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
'Where they were diving and what they were doing there. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
'But I don't think at that time, when we first met them, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
'we ever expected them to come back and to come back again.' | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
"There's no place like home except the Manor House Guest House." | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Life for everyone ran to the rhythms of the sea. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
When the weather allowed, the team was at Port na Spaniagh diving. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
They would spend the whole day there to get six hours under water. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
Robert ran the expedition like a top-secret military operation. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
People talked and gossiped and they thought maybe they are doing a survey or something at the harbour. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:08 | |
We didn't know, but then whenever they dived in the one spot | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
and they kept going to the same spot | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
and they went off in the morning at the same time, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
and went to the same area to dive and then they came back. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Yes, then people started to get more inquisitive. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
Then there was rumours that they were diving for Spanish treasure. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
We told people here that we were filming the underwater ecosystem around the Giant's Causeway. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:38 | |
They were always, always looking for jam pots. Anything with lids on it. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
And this is what intrigued us. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
We didn't know why they were always looking for some sort of containers. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Jam jars made great containers for all sorts of little treasures. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
More importantly, they were easily hidden in bags and wetsuits when the team came ashore. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:03 | |
Everyone knew that there was a maverick somewhere. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
We were coming from far away just to be looking at this? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
We've never been good liars! | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
But Robert HAD registered his interest in Port na Spaniagh with the Receiver of Wrecks, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:20 | |
the civil servant who policed Britain's laws of salvage in Northern Ireland. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
The law was the same as if I had been recovering | 0:38:24 | 0:38:30 | |
a cargo of coal or of iron bars, etc. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
If there were no owners, everything I found belonged to the Crown. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:43 | |
But the Crown had this very good habit of returning everything to the finder. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
Except...little... | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
7% for the cost of the Receiver of Wrecks. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Confident that he had legal protection as salvor in possession, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
Robert decided to recover the cannon he had found the summer before. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
But an Armada cannon couldn't be hidden in jam jars. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
It was actually the first guaranteed, genuine, authentic Armada cannon | 0:39:13 | 0:39:20 | |
coming out of the water and known to anyone. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
So, historically, it was important, and for us it was important. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
The cannon was left suspended and out of sight beneath the lifting bags. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
The team gingerly towed their prize into Portballintrae. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
I think this is one of my best pictures, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
because it so brilliantly depicts | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
the mood of the expedition at that time, and especially on that day. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
All these guys widely grinning. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Smiling to their ears. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
It was a fantastic day. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
But their secret was out. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
When we lifted that cannon, things changed. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
One of the local fishermen arrived when I was sitting having my tea | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
and told me, "John, they've found the Spanish wreck at the causeway!" | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
So I went roaring down to the harbour and Robert and his merry men were carrying in this little cannon. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:39 | |
Everyone could see what we were doing, there was pandemonium, there were big posters in the streets. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:46 | |
The evening newspapers printed "GOLD", like this, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
across the front page and everyone was there during the weekend. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
We were overwhelmed by tourists. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
But mention gold and everyone wants a piece of the action. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
One day we came to the harbour and there was a group of about 12 sports divers. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:13 | |
They were kitting up and getting ready to dive, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
so I went to them and asked if by any chance they were intending to go to the site of the Girona. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
Not one of them answered anything. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
The divers were all members of the recently formed Belfast branch of the British Sub Aqua Club. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
The story was, he was doing a geological survey | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
on the Girona Port na Spaniagh site. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
It didn't take an awful lot to think, "He's diving on the Girona!" | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
I went to the skipper of an open boat, which obviously was there to take them somewhere diving, | 0:41:54 | 0:42:00 | |
and asked him the same question and he said, "Oh, no! | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
"We're going the other way around. We are going to the west." | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
And then the divers went in the boat and the boat went out of the harbour | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
and went straight east towards the Girona. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
Stenuit quickly gathered his team together and gave chase. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
So we overtook them on the way to Lacada Point | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
and we got in the water before them. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
They had made it pretty plain that it was theirs. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
They had a buoy on the wreck site saying "no diving". | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
They were not coming in in an inquisitive mind, but in an acquisitive mind. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
They had big goody bags, burglars' bags and prying bars. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
The burglar's outfit. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
That was standard equipment. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
You have a hammer and crowbars on your weight belts, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
because every time we dived, we dived on a wreck. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
We thought there was a big boat there! | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
I told them that not only were we running an archaeological excavation | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
but we were the salvors in possession, which, by law, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
empowered us to keep anyone who has a mind on that salvage away. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:29 | |
The boys that were down, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
they objected to them not being able to lift anything. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
We followed them very carefully. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
And suddenly I see one of them picking up a piece of lead from the wreck. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
And one of the boys lifted a bit of lead, I think it was. Put it in his bag. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
So, I swim to him, and I said...like this... | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
So he took it off him! | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
It became a scandal. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
I had attacked him, suddenly. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
Once again, Robert's Girona excavation made front-page news. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
It made me angry, yes. We were trying to reconstitute a puzzle. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
And if you miss pieces of the puzzle, you cannot reconstruct it. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
Robert quickly moved to protect his position as salvor in possession. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
The club members agonised over their next move. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
The club committee then decided not to interfere with him any more. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
I suppose we were pirates, as well. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
But things didn't end there. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
At Westminster, Henry Clark, the MP for North Antrim, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
asked why foreign divers were being allowed to loot the Girona site. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
I was scandalised about the whole thing. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
It was so far from the truth. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
I mean, there was no point to answer it. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
All the local people, they didn't want this. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
And I sat down, and I actually wrote to Henry Clark. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
"Dear sir, Monsieur Stenuit and his associates, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
"would not engage in looting and destruction, as has been reported. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
"There is a great sense of outrage in Portballintrae." | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
They knew how hard they worked. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:36 | |
They knew they were diving every day. So why, when they'd done all this, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
should any other team from anywhere come and try to dive? It was unfair. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
"Occasionally, the Ulsterman displays a propensity for making himself appear ridiculous. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:51 | |
"In Heaven's name, let this not happen. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
"Yours faithfully, John MacLennan." | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
While MPs were getting hot and bothered, and the press were having a feeding frenzy, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
other, more serious minds had been attracted by the Girona publicity. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
When the stories began to appear in the press, a very nice gentleman with a beard came and rang the bell. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:16 | |
He said, "I am the keeper of archaeology, history and archaeology, in the Ulster Museum. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:22 | |
"It is my duty, I am afraid, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
"to inform myself of what is happening. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
"Would you kindly tell me what is happening?" | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
The visitor was Laurence Flanagan. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
He had little expertise in underwater archaeology, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
but the museum curator recognised the Girona's true importance. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
I said, "Please come in", and I showed him everything. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
Laurence was keen to know what Robert intended to do with these beautiful and utterly unique finds. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:50 | |
Originally, I thought it should have gone to a Spanish museum. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:59 | |
But there was very little interest in Spain before we had found it. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
Putting it to auction meant that it would be split all over the world. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
The curator was deeply worried. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
Even if he was able to stop the collection being broken up, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
many of the artefacts were in real danger of being destroyed | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
by the team's efforts to recover them. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
So he decided to make Stenuit an offer he couldn't refuse. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
He put at our disposal the conservation laboratory that was run by the museum and by the university. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:38 | |
And they took off my back the most difficult, most costly | 0:47:38 | 0:47:44 | |
and most important part of the whole expedition - it was conservation. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
Stenuit's team was finally free to finish what they had come here to do - recover the Girona's gold. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:57 | |
He brought up a load of stuff. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
He said, "John, tap that with that little hammer that you have there." | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
So, I tapped. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Suddenly, gold coins started dropping out. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
The McConaghy girls were honoured with a trip to the site. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
But seasickness and cold soon drove them back ashore. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
A visit to the treasure store at the top of their house was only marginally more interesting. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:27 | |
I thought at first it was just old bits of stones and bits of this. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
It wasn't. He said to me it was really important. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
That's when I thought I might put a coin in my pocket, but he wouldn't let me! | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
-Dame Fortune smiled that -I -didn't find it. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:23 | |
I would have simply said, "I have discovered bits of a Spanish wreck." | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
It would have been looted quietly. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
But the team were putting in more and more effort, with fewer and fewer rewards. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:57 | |
Then, just as Robert was thinking of calling a halt to the expedition, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
Port na Spaniagh gave them one last delight. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
We found one little gold ring, deep in a crevice, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
in about a yard-and-a-half stones and gravel and dead crabs. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
And when the ring was brought to the surface, we looked at it, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
and it was the most moving object we ever found. It bears on top | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
a little hand holding out a heart, and the undone buckle of a girdle. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
And there is a caption in the gold which reads, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
"No tengo mas que dar te", | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
which means, "I have nothing more to give to you." | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
I always fantasised, that the young nobleman who was wearing this, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:44 | |
had received it on the last day before the Armada sailed. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
You know, he had spent the night with his betrothed, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
she came and said, "I have a little present for you." | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
This is the kind of thing which, for me, makes all of it worth it, really. | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
Do you think there was a message there? | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
The wreck had given me everything it could give? Is that what you mean? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
Do you think there was a...? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
Possibly. Suitably, it happened very late in the game. So you may be right there. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:17 | |
But the most important piece of the Girona story was still missing. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
I always have a secret hope that one day we will find | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
something which we can link to de Leiva himself, to the man. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
Perhaps his jewel of the Knight of Santiago. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
Robert failed to find anything that could be linked to Don Alonso Martinez de Leiva, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
Knight of Santiago. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
In September 1969, the team finally gave in. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
After two long diving seasons and 6,000 hours on the seabed, their gear was worn out. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:54 | |
What memories of the original dig does it bring back, when you go back down there again? | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
Only good memories, there are no others. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
Memories of two beautiful years of my life, really. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
He left Port na Spaniagh with his place in the story of underwater archaeology secure. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:17 | |
The ownership of the treasures he had recovered was anything but. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
Spain was claiming that they were hers. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
Others argued that they should stay together in Northern Ireland. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
It would take a court case to settle that argument. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
Robert could only wait for judgment. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
The court ruled that no single owner of the Girona treasures could be found. They would be sold. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:46 | |
And Stenuit would finally turn those long hours of cold and difficult diving into financial profit. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:53 | |
I do not like the word profit in this context, | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
because it is not what we had in mind. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
I mean, our time was compensated, and handsomely. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
In two ways, because we had the best years of our life, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
or some of the best years of our life, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
and a little money to put butter in the spinach, as we say in French. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
The Girona's treasure was valued at £132,000. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:23 | |
And Robert agreed to let the collection stay together in Northern Ireland. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
The Government only gave a little over half of the sum, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
so a public appeal was launched by the keeper of history at the Ulster Museum, Laurence Flanagan, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
to raise the rest. It only took six months. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
The Girona Exhibition opened at the Ulster Museum in 1972. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:52 | |
Robert Stenuit was the guest of honour. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
It was the first time it had ever been done in the UK. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Or in Europe, or everywhere. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
So it is all thanks to Laurence Flanagan. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
I think if Lawrence had not convinced Stenuit | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
to give the stuff to the museum, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
the stuff would have been scattered to the four winds. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
After Stenuit left, Port na Spaniagh was regularly dived. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:39 | |
At least two further semi-professional expeditions were undertaken by private teams. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
If anything was found, none of it was declared. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
Other divers were more honest. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
We just went down, and basically shifted stones and boulders. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
Sometimes with the help of a pneumatic drill. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
We found a piece at Lacada Point, very close to where Stenuit found some of the other stuff. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:19 | |
Alan did not know what he had found. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
But Laurence Flanagan recognised it instantly. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
It was the elusive Cross of Santiago. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Don Alonso Martinez de Leiva's cross. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
It dated and put de Leiva on the site, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
which is one of the few artefacts that did that. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
A gold cross like this one, of the Order of Santiago, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
was recovered out there on Robert's Girona. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
It is only a trinket, really. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
But when you learn that it was once worn around the neck | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
of Don Alonso Martinez de Leiva, and that he came here | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
in the aftermath of Spain's disastrous attempt to invade England in 1588, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
it takes on an immeasurable value. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
But you have to know the story. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
It is the story that is the treasure. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
For 400 years, the Girona story has always focused on the search for lost Spanish gold. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:41 | |
What was really lost was the story of the 1,300 men | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
who drowned with Don Alonso on a wild Irish night in 1588. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:54 | |
It was this that brought me there, so I owe him a debt of gratitude. | 0:57:55 | 0:58:01 | |
And I tried to repay that by trying to bring them back from the world of the dead. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:09 | |
I think I built a memorial to them. And I think it was fitting that it was a diver that did that. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:16 |