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These long streets are at the heart of the predominantly Catholic area of Ardoyne in north Belfast. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:16 | |
Many of the children here go to the Holy Cross primary school. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
The walk there takes them through the neighbouring Protestant Glenbryn estate. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
It's been an area of sectarian tension for generations. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
10 years ago, when they returned to school for the new year, this happened: | 0:00:31 | 0:00:37 | |
EXPLOSIONS, CRYING | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
You're OK, love. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
'It was like a battlefield' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
only instead of adults involved it was children. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
You're fucking dead! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I used to sit and question myself - am I doing the right thing bringing my kids up that road? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:07 | |
They're not meant to walk up! | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Who the fuck are you pushing, you fat bastard? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
'All I remember is noise.' | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
It's like a giant crowd in my head. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Fenian bastards! | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
'She was terrified and because they're young girls' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
they didn't do anything wrong. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
'People say, "Get over it. It was 10 years ago."' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
Fair enough, but I'm still angry. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
10 years after the Holy Cross dispute, we've returned to Ardoyne | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
to meet some of the mothers and daughters caught up in it. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
How have the events affected their lives and relationships? What are they doing now? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:54 | |
And has the protest defined how they view the world around them? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
SHOUTS, WHISTLES, HORNS BLARE | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
The Holy Cross protests made headlines worldwide. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
The confrontations flared on the back of other quarrels on this road, such as one about flags. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:27 | |
These four mothers were among dozens who led their daughters through the lines of police and army | 0:02:31 | 0:02:37 | |
every weekday for three months. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I'm Tracy Campbell. My daughter is Sarah Jane. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
Sarah Jane was 9 years old during the Holy Cross protest. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
We didn't really talk about it at that time. That was probably our way of coping with it. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
We didn't watch it on television. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
And I didn't buy newspapers. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
So coping with it, I think, was held back in our house. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:09 | |
It made me feel like, "I don't want to be a part of this. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
"I don't want my life bitter at someone because of their religion." | 0:03:16 | 0:03:22 | |
It's just made me want to be a better person because of it, more than anything. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
I'm Angie Boyle. This is my daughter Helen. Helen was 10 during the ordeal. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:49 | |
I didn't really expect adults to ever get on like that. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
You always assumed they knew where to draw the line, but apparently not. It was very shocking. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:02 | |
We were faced with a wall of hatred | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
that we couldn't understand. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
There's never been Sinn Fein... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
We always talked about, you know, the whole effect of it. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
I was trying to help Helen not be bitter. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
-It's easy to get bitter. -It didn't work! | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
Aww, she's not bitter at all, but, em... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
What does bitter mean? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-You know? -I'm not forgetful. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-Yeah... -So I'm not going to let it go because it happened in the past. Do you know what I mean? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:40 | |
I don't think it should ever have happened and if you bring it up I'll still be angry about it, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:47 | |
-but I don't walk around every day with a dark cloud over my head thinking, "Oh!" -"I'm the victim." | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
Just walk straight on! | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
I'm Lynda Bowes. My daughter is Amanda. Amanda was 9 during the Holy Cross protest. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
I still don't know if I protected her enough. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
Looking back, should you have just took her out? I don't know. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
My heart says, "You were OK." | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
And at the time I was there, but... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
10 years down the line and I wonder. If I seen that on TV, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
who in their right mind would do that? Who would take their daughter through that every day for 3 months? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:42 | |
She's got nothing to forgive herself for. There's... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
It's... She did nothing wrong. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
If anything, she's taught me to stand up for what you believe in. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
I mean, she went through so much. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I never seen it. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
It was only until after years and I sort of asked her. You see photographs in the paper and that. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:13 | |
So I've seen what she went through and I was like, "I don't understand why you're so ashamed..." | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
She wasn't ashamed, but she felt so guilty. I never understood why. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
SHOUTING ABUSE | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
I'm Elaine Burns and my daughter Leona was 7 years old during the Holy Cross protest. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
Every day you were taking your children through that traumatic experience. Trauma upon trauma. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:50 | |
The world should see that those people tried to murder babies this morning. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
I knew there was going to be psychological damage | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
or emotional damage done and I could see that. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
But I had to weigh that against the right to go to school. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Walking there, I had no idea as to why they were objecting to us walking to school. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:24 | |
I had no idea at all. Just... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
I didn't know anything about it. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Em... | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
They just seemed very angry. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
-Don't get up here ever! -Aye, you're hard with the RUC round you. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
Yes, the RUC! | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
The whole experience of Holy Cross has had a major impact on the lives of these mothers and daughters. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
The past 10 years have seen much change, so what does the future hold for them all? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
Ardoyne is a nationalist area of 7,000 people. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
It's long been defined by outsiders by its problems - poverty, crime and sectarian conflict. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:17 | |
Elaine Burns is a community worker, one of the most outspoken parents during the Holy Cross protests. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:25 | |
She received death threats at the time of Holy Cross. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
-So your mummy's are all sold then? -Yes, there's just £60 there. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
I'll get her ticked off my wee list. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-And then you let me know how yours go. -Yeah. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
And what about doing the door? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Her way of dealing with Holy Cross 10 years on is by marking the anniversary with a reunion | 0:08:47 | 0:08:53 | |
of the parents and children. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
See you later. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
However, not everyone in the community thinks this is a good idea. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
The church is not co-operating, nor is the school. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
Interface areas can be very fragile areas. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
And as a mummy and a person who works in the community, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
I wouldn't want to be doing anything that in any way brings about heightening tensions. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:28 | |
And, em, you know, the school is still there and it's in a vulnerable area. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
You don't want to be raising any awareness or heightening tensions, but the parents and the children, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:41 | |
we all still live in this community. It is the parish of Holy Cross and, as a group of people, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
we've decided that there's a wee event and we'd like to... It was a big event at the time, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
but we want to mark it by reconnecting with people that we haven't seen for a couple of years, | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
have a night's craic and enjoyment, catch up and see how our children have all moved on | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
and how well they're doing. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
And hear some of what the other children's plans are. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
And, as I say, raise a couple of pound for children less well off. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Elaine has four children. Leona is her eldest daughter. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
Tonight Elaine is taking her to music practice. Leona is a member | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
of the Jim O'Neill and Robert Allsopp Memorial Band. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
BAND LEADER SHOUTS | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
You described it as a republican band. Were you apprehensive when she said she wanted to join? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
Em... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
No, not really. I mean, Leona wouldn't be clued in to politics. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
Leona's only in it for the music. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
As she gets older, she might become more aware of politics | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
and obviously she knows some from her Irish history, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
but her whole passion is music. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-But some people associate the band with republicanism. -A lot of people associate it with republicanism. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
I joined a flute band because I've always played musical instruments. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
I was playing in a music school not too long back. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
I decided I wanted to play the flute. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Tracy Campbell and her daughter Sarah Jane still live in Ardoyne. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Sarah Jane comes here to the local boxing club twice a week with her sister Megan. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:35 | |
We just came up for a bit of training | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and a bit of work on the pads and warming up. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Just footwork and shadow boxing and stuff. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
We've been off for a while, doing schoolwork and stuff, so we're trying to get our fitness back up. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:54 | |
It's hard at first, but once you get it, it's a good feeling. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
'I like the way it gives me a good feeling, you know. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
'No drug in this world will ever make you feel that way. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
'It's a feeling you couldn't buy.' | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I find it a lot easier to express myself physically | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
than, you know, even speaking sometimes | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
and, like, writing things down. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
In fact, Sarah Jane has a severe form of dyslexia. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
She's now in her late teens, but faces major problems with even the most everyday tasks. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
'Even, like, in everyday situations like paying on the bus, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
'counting out the right kind of money and getting your change back, it can be really embarrassing. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
'Or the time as well. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
'I find it difficult to tell the time sometimes as well. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
'And that's really embarrassing.' | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Her teachers up in secondary school took her in and learned her the time in every way you can learn it | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
to try to make it easier for her. She knew it for a few hours and then it was gone again. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:22 | |
They'll come and check your work and they'll correct it, but you don't get tutored or anything. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:29 | |
'Reading things, if I was trying to read big instructions, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
'I can read it, but I couldn't tell you' | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
what I've just read because I'm concentrating so hard on reading the actual words | 0:14:37 | 0:14:43 | |
that I don't get the meaning of what I've just read, what it's saying to me. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
'I always worry. I'm worried in case I can't support myself or look after myself. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
'And, like, I don't wanna | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
'like, grow up depending on other people forever.' | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
How did you get on? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Where does Holy Cross fit in Sarah Jane's life? Has it had an impact? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
'I would say it definitely has, but they're not going down the road of bigotry and sectarianism.' | 0:15:17 | 0:15:24 | |
I think if anything, it's drove them more, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
it's made them more curious of the other side, as some people put it, of the other community. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
And so much that they'll socialise and they'll mix, no problem. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
Sarah Jane still has her sights set on college, in spite of her difficulties. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
Lynda Bowes' daughter Amanda made it to college. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
Amanda is at Queen's doing a degree in film studies. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
She's the first member of her family to go to university. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
'It was tough in the beginning, but it's been great ever since. Once you get settled in | 0:16:13 | 0:16:19 | |
'you can't really imagine going back to school.' | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
There's too much structure and sitting around doing nothing. Here you can practise and rehearse. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:31 | |
-Do you see them all? -See that one we're editing? -Uh-huh. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
He gave us the idea for the index. We weren't sure how to get it to end. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
Amanda has been living at home throughout her first year, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
-but Lynda has had her concerns about college life. -'Terrified. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
'Terrified. But I think it's something that I never done.' | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
So I don't know what that is like. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
So I'm a bit worried for her | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and nagging her. A bit. More about personal safety and being careful, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:07 | |
but I'm proud of her that she wants to do it. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
'She wants to try these things and that's all I wanted for them.' | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
Amanda was traumatised by the experience of Holy Cross. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Could this tarnish her time at college? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
She doesn't like | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
not knowing where she is, to this day. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
She doesn't like, em, not going out | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
in a crowd of people, such... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
You know, if one friend said to her, "There's a new bar," | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
or a new disco, "Do you want to try it?", no. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
She has to ease into it gently. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
And she likes to know she has a group of people around her, to support her. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
This camera's a modified version, so switching it on here... | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
'I don't like drunk people. I can't deal with them. I don't know why. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
'And guys, especially.' | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Go to the students union, everyone's having a good time, but there's always one who tries to do something | 0:18:16 | 0:18:23 | |
and that's what scared me from going out. I didn't know what was going to happen. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
If something did get out of control, was I going to be OK? Stupid wee things like that. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
Amanda has come to the end of her first year, but she has decisions to make | 0:18:35 | 0:18:42 | |
about how she spends her next two years. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Angie Boyle now lives in another part of north Belfast. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Two of her three children are still at home, including 20-year-old Helen. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
We're going to have to move. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
You know, to get behind and get the wires disconnected. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
The family is now about to move again. For Angie, it's a big step. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
She's taken on a mortgage and will be moving into a bigger house, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
but they're all looking forward to the freedom which comes with owning their own home. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
'It's definitely going to be exciting getting into our new house.' | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
And knowing it's your own and you can do whatever you want to it | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
and really put your stamp on it the way you can't do when renting. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
And we've chosen it, which is nice as well. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
In Ardoyne, you didn't have a say. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
You had a house, you lived in it and that was it! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
It's the start of a whole new set of stresses, but it's all good. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
'I grew up in... mainly in Ardoyne. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
'It was rough, quite impoverished, and it's not the life I want for my children.' | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
Where are these wires belonging to? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
Angie works for the council. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
After Holy Cross, she did a degree in fine art and Helen is now studying law. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:17 | |
'For me, personally, it was the difference between... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
'How can I be a role model to my children? I thought I'd go back to education' | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
and try to expand that, just so I could potentially make myself employable in the future. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
And find maybe a way out | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
for myself and for my children. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Anything that's junk, we'll just leave here. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
'I never felt as though I fitted in in Ardoyne or that I belonged there. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
'I was just always a bit different. It was the same with my whole family. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
'We never really belonged there.' | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
We knew we didn't fit in. We weren't part of that mentality | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
where your whole family lives in the one street. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
So we never really... The mentality wasn't for us. The area wasn't right for us. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
Elaine Burns and her daughter Leona are still very much involved in life in Ardoyne. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
Elaine works for a voluntary organisation in the neighbourhood | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
providing advice about housing and benefit issues. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
'I always grew up with a wee saying. "You bloom where you're planted." | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
'And my family connections, my mummy, my sisters, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
'we all live here.' | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
And, you know, being close to family, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
when you're born in a community that's only 7,000 people | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
and there's probably a mile radius around it, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
people become very close. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
We're a very close-knit community. And with our families as well. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
You grab a wee seat down here for me. Close that wee door there. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
-Yours is a wee 50, is it? -Aye, I filled one out before. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
-I think she's gone to Australia or America now. -Oh, Dorothy. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Aye. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-Right, so it's depression and anxiety. -Anxiety. -Right, OK. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
-I know, she has... -She's written it down. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Panic attacks and stuff. Mainly around depression and anxiety. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
-I got stabbed a couple of years ago. -OK. And where were you stabbed? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
-Oh, on the chest, two in the shoulder and one in the back, punctured lung. -Right. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:51 | |
'I absolutely love the job that I do, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
'where I can see the satisfaction on someone's face when you've helped them achieve something' | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
or get them a benefit that they were entitled to that helps them and their family in a better state, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
I don't want for anything else. That's what I'm happy with. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
Elaine has also been busy planning the reunion for the parents and children involved in Holy Cross | 0:23:21 | 0:23:27 | |
10 years ago. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
This is the Crumlin Star, a local club in the area. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
They have offered the facilities of their cabaret hall for us to host our wee event. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:38 | |
Hi, Gerry! | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
-Well, Elaine, welcome. Everything sorted out? -That's just what I'm up for, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:56 | |
to make sure everything is OK. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
They're going to just have the DJ, disco and run a few wee ballots. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
I hope it's good and rightly so after the length of time. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
-It'll bring back memories, obviously. -It'll be good to catch up with everybody, aye. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
-I'll see you then. -Bye! | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
She's conscious that lack of support from the church and school could affect how many people turn up. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:23 | |
So is she concerned? | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
I think when you're organising an event, no matter what, you're always concerned about numbers | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
and if the crowd's going to be there. A lot of times you worry for nothing. I've got to the stage now, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
you organise an event. If people go, they go. If they don't, they don't. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
As long as those who do attend have a good night and an opportunity to catch up with old friends. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
That's what I'm looking forward to. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Eight o'clock, then. Until they drop! | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
Elaine's daughter, Leona, is coming to the end of term at school. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
Like many of her friends, she now attends the Catholic secondary school in neighbouring Ballysillan. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:26 | |
'I go to Our Lady of Mercy secondary school. I enjoy playing sports, I enjoy music. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
'And I'm studying "A" levels in school at the minute.' | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Leona has been considering her career options and she's decided that she wants to join the police. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
I'm not the type to sit in an office. I want to be out and active | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
and helping make a difference. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
I know I would enjoy the job as well. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
But in a community like Ardoyne, a career choice like this is not so simple. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
I live in an area with strong republican views. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
And we do have a growing number of republicans who are anti the Good Friday Agreement | 0:26:10 | 0:26:18 | |
and the peace process. So when you live in an area like Ardoyne, it's not that easy. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
If you live maybe in the leafy suburbs... There's a thing about "castle Catholics". | 0:26:24 | 0:26:30 | |
But if my daughter was probably born in the Malone Road, there probably wouldn't be any questions asked. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:36 | |
She could go and choose that if it was the career she wanted. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
So just at the minute it's not that easy for someone from working class areas like Ardoyne. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:48 | |
It's a major decision for Leona with implications for her whole family. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
Sarah Jane wants to go to college and is being encouraged by her mum Tracy, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:02 | |
who works as a dinner lady at Ballysillan. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
What'll you take for dessert, love? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Tracy and her friend Paula are supporting Elaine's reunion. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
-Do you think it's right to mark the 10th anniversary? -Just to remember it quietly ourselves. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:23 | |
There's no point in taking it up and shouting in people's faces | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
because really and truly it's your own personal thing. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Everybody felt different when it happened, everybody felt different when it started, finished | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
and every so many years on. You've seen people maybe change their attitude towards it. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:43 | |
People don't want to talk about it. Some do. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Although Tracy's daughter Sarah Jane has severe dyslexia, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
she has a flair for art and has been doing a BTech for the past two years. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:01 | |
She met her boyfriend Adam at the course. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Today they're both meeting her tutor. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
-'Art's like a big part of us because we do it every day. -Every day. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
-'Every day has something to do with art. -Yeah.' | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
-That's one done with oil pastels. -Which was your favourite medium when you first came here. -Yeah. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:26 | |
Were you using paint when you first came here or just oil pastels? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
I only started paint when I started here. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
-That's Adam. -There you are. -With his grumpy face. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
-Where's that one? -Do you know where the Shamrock is in Ardoyne? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
Yeah? That's where I live. It's the houses there. I didn't get that completely finished, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:51 | |
that one. That one's in Jamaica Street. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
We went to the art show at the art exhibition at the University of Ulster last week. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
Just going and looking at everybody's work gave us such ideas. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
It was inspiring for us and we started working harder, doing more. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
It rubbed off on us, to give us more ideas. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
A scary one. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
Yeah! | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
I see I don't know how many students every year. Every once in a while, somebody actually stands out. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:27 | |
Sarah Jane is one of those students. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
It's very, very restrained, very pared-down. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
And just very honest. It's a very honest communication. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
She's just telling like who she is and where she comes from. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Sarah Jane's natural progression would be a foundation course for a degree. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
But she can only do this if her English and Maths are up to it. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
She has to pass exams in both if she's to get a place on the course. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
Who's that? | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
'We can't understand, you know, why you need Maths and English | 0:29:58 | 0:30:05 | |
'for just to simply sit down and draw. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
'But you need some written work besides your drawings, your sketches.' | 0:30:08 | 0:30:14 | |
That actually looks like him. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
I'm gutted, to be quite honest and truthful, absolutely gutted | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
because she's so passionate about art. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
And you know, she really so wants to go further on in art. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:29 | |
And she's just hit a brick wall, really, you know? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
God help her, she'll go and try anything. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
She says to me, "Mummy, I feel like I'm going to go into this room and feel humiliated." | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
With the problems she has, along comes frustration and embarrassment | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
when faced with these situations like sitting exams. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
But she's still willing to go and face all that, to try. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
Amanda Bowes has lived at home during her first year at Queen's University. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:08 | |
A legacy of the trauma of the Holy Cross dispute | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
has meant Amanda has always been nervous of venturing too far from the safety of her family in Ardoyne. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:19 | |
But recently, she has broken news of a major decision to her mother Lynda. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
Hiya. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
She's decided to leave home, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
but she wants her mother to see the house she's moving into with college friends. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
They're getting another viewing with the estate agent. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
-The furniture? Is that not going to be...? -Yeah, the television. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
It's a huge step for both mother and daughter. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
Look at this! | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
'Amanda, generally, to be honest with you, has always been very shy. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
'Not even shy. I would say more reserved.' | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
She likes to get her bearings and she's a bit of a worrier. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
You would be using the front room as a living room, really. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
'Looking at her now, the girl from a year ago... It's a different person. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:11 | |
'She's a totally different person.' | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
She's gone from strength to strength, so much so, she's leaving me. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
-It's smaller, but it's still got a big bed in it. -This was my sister's bedroom. -Was it? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
'I need to be able to stand on my own two feet for the first time. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
'All the way through school, I've had a stable environment' | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
and should anything ever have gone wrong, Mummy was there to fix it | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
and Daddy was always there to fix it. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
I think that I need to prove to myself that I could fix it, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
whatever was wrong, I'm able to tackle it on my own | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
and be able to say, "Yes, I'm strong enough, I'm independent now." | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
-You haven't seen this one. Look at the size of this one. Ignore the mess. -It's normally the biggest. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
'It has been the making of her. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
'She still has friends, people in her circle from her secondary school, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
'but she's met these other people from all over the place and they get on like a house on fire.' | 0:33:05 | 0:33:11 | |
She's much more independent now than she's ever been. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
And I have to say, so far, so good. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
She's with a really, really nice group of people. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
And, um...people who never knew she was involved in a protest. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
And so, em... | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
She didn't have that baggage either. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
LAUGHTER That's an achievement! | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
This is the one we're fighting over. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
-Who likes the sloping ceilings? -I like them. I think they're so cool. -This is very nice. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
Once they work out who's sleeping in what room and we get the basics sorted, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
because there's some competition for one of the bedrooms... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Once that's done, they'll be fine. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
This is my first trip over, so I know she's not that far away. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Now that I've made the drive from our house over, I know she's in relatively easy reach. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:07 | |
-And contented. -It's almost like a coming of age. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
It is. It is. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
When she said when she first went to uni, she was staying at home, that sort of made my day, you know? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
But no, she's made a very good choice both in property and in house-mates. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
So I'm happy for her. I'm excited for them. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
How excited are you, Amanda, about this now? | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
More excited now that Mummy's seen it and she's OK with it. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
She's OK, it's all fine. I'm excited now. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Still nervous obviously, but, yeah... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-New beginning? -Yes, definitely. A new start, sort of. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Angie Boyle has been moving house | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
at the same time as Helen has been doing her second-year exams in Law. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
Helen is on her way to the library to study. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
She sees her education as fundamental to all her plans for the future. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
Angie's enjoying finding new places for her things. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
They include her own artwork. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
I've had to put my artwork here | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
because I haven't figured out... | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
I'm not at the stage yet to figure out where I'll store it, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
where I'm going to work on new paintings and so on. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
This one is of Holy Cross. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
This was actually done from the time... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I done this probably about a year ago. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Why did you decide to do this one a year ago? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
I was always thinking I should do something, just even as a cathartic process maybe. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
But in most of the paintings that I've done, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
they are all essentially a reference | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
from how the whole thing of Holy Cross affected me, I suppose, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
and how apathetic and how sort of... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
You know, you're lacking in power to change anything or make anything different. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:12 | |
This one's of Helen and this is Ardoyne. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
It was very much based on the Holy Cross experience because... | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
Again I have my... | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
my areas. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
And they kind of say where she is and how strong she is, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
even though all that happened and she experienced that level of hatred going on | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
and how people can be so hatred-filled, you know? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
And this is my bedroom | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
which is a bit of a mess at the moment. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
And the colours are a bit horrendous. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
But maybe there's a child been in here or something before I had the house, so again small steps. | 0:36:54 | 0:37:01 | |
But that's it. That's about as much movement I have with my furniture as you can see, basically, here. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:08 | |
So it's just a matter of me coming in, giving it a good dose of bright paint. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
Light, rather, and natural. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
So, yeah, that's this room. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
And in here is Helen's room. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
She's a bit spoilt, like, on it so... for space. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
She's got the biggest...probably the biggest room in the house, actually, this is. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:34 | |
And, um...you know, she works hard. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
It's OK. We're happy enough with the situation the way it is, so, you know... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:44 | |
And that room, anyway, that I'm in is about the size of the house I lived in in Ardoyne, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
so you know, it's just like the squeeze is back on, to squeeze your furniture into small rooms. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:56 | |
But maybe I should get rid of some of my furniture. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Why did you give Helen the big room? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Well, we came down a couple of times | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
and we just decided, you know, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
it's no big deal if Helen gets the big room. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
It's a big house with lots of rooms. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
It's all good. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
For Helen, it's been a long road from Holy Cross to Law School. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
I meet so many people who just have no idea... They're so... I just find them quite ridiculous. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:34 | |
They're so shallow or something. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
They've no depth to them because they've never known hardship | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
and they've never known what it's like to have to work hard for something because it matters, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:46 | |
it's the difference between you getting to go to school and having an education or not. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
They wouldn't have any understanding of that. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
I don't want to have to struggle in my whole life | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
with money and in terms of where we can live and what you can afford to do. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
From growing up with our parents, we never had a lot of money when we were younger | 0:39:03 | 0:39:09 | |
and we don't have a lot of money now. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
That's the driving force as well behind my decision to go into law and to try and get a well-paid job. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
If you're working as a paralegal for so many years, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
-you get automatically accepted on to the Institute. -Yeah. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Yeah, I know a guy who did that. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Helen's ambitions mean that she's looking even further afield. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
She's approached a prestigious law firm in London and got a placement over the summer | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
which she hopes will open more doors for her. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I'm really excited about going and seeing what life's like in London for the two weeks | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
and what it's like to work there and the kind of work you'll be doing. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Hopefully, at the end of it, I might be offered a training contract. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
Tracy Campbell and her daughter Sarah Jane have had the recent worry of Sarah Jane's looming exams. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:05 | |
But today, there is some relief | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
as it's Sarah Jane's 19th birthday. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Her boyfriend Adam is treating her to a romantic dinner. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
I've been going out with a guy in my class called Adam. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
We met last year, but we've only started going out this year. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
But he's really lovely. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I just wanted to give her a wee surprise, just a wee treat, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
so I told her I'd take her out for dinner. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
We went to the cinema last night, so... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
This is something else. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
On the face of it, Sarah Jane and Adam are like any other two teenagers in love. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
But in north Belfast, life is not as simple as that. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Adam is a Protestant. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
She brought her boyfriend home and they'd obviously been dating for quite a while. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:23 | |
They were very familiar, as an observant parent, with each other. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
And she had no problems whatsoever, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
you know, telling us he's from the other community. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
You know, um, which, you know... | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
I just reckon we all live together here. We'd really like to see that. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
And that was just saying that's the end of that. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
So it's now just Adam. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
It's not Adam from here or Adam's a this or that. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
It's just Adam. He's a really nice kid. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
'I wanted him to be comfortable first with me and to feel like he can trust me | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
'before I brought him to here. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
'But he came in and then he knew he was OK.' | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
I might just get the fish and chips or just the chicken goujons. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
I was the same when I was going down | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
to meet his parents and all too, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
but you realise that it's OK, you know. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Give us a kiss. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
Angie Boyle is preparing to say goodbye to her daughter Helen. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
For a couple of weeks anyway. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Helen sets off today for London where she'll spend two weeks | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
with a commercial law company | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
and it has the potential to provide her with an internship when she graduates in a year's time. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
'My ambition is definitely based in London. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
'In the next couple of years, that's definitely where I see myself working | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
'and that's where I'm really hoping I'm going to get to go.' | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Well, we'll miss you. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
'It's not that I'm desperate to get out of here. I mean, this is my home. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
'I love Belfast. You spend your life here and this is where all my friends and all my family are.' | 0:43:14 | 0:43:21 | |
But career-wise, the opportunities are elsewhere. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
That's just the way it is. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
I don't mind either getting away to experience living in other places | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
where there aren't so many problems and so much history and so much going on, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:37 | |
so it will be interesting to see what life's like elsewhere, how other people live, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
without all this hatred in their lives. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
So, yeah, my plans are definitely to leave again. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
That's her. Right... | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
It's a really good opportunity and worst-case scenario, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
if she didn't get picked, she's just got to stay with her mummy. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
How bad is that? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
It's all good, you know. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
I think if Helen has her way, she won't move away. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
You know, she loves it here | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
and she likes being close. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
She loves to travel. Don't get me wrong. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
But as for living somewhere for... | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
you know, as a constant thing for her future, I'm not too sure about that. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:42 | |
I'd always see her wanting to be back here, you know? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
I don't think there's any harm in wanting your children to achieve, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
but I think there is harm when you start to want to live through your kids | 0:44:50 | 0:44:56 | |
and you want to browbeat them into being something you never were, you never could be. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:02 | |
I think that would be horrendous. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
I think parents like that are... you know, they're a bit misguided. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:10 | |
As you can see, a few changes. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
-CUP DROPS -Oops! | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
TAPS KEYS ON PHONE | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
I'm just texting Helen to let her know that everything's OK. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
I'm back and... Is she OK, more or less? | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
It'll be quiet without her, like, so it will. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
But, you know, two weeks and she'll be back | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
and that'll be me running after her and helping her with this, that and the other. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:09 | |
Elaine Burns' daughter Leona has also been considering her career options. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:21 | |
Since childhood, she has nurtured an ambition to be a police officer, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
but recently, the adult realities of who she is and where she comes from have tempered that ambition. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:34 | |
I always wanted to be a police officer and in the past few months, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
a year maybe, I've just realised that I can't do it. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
I can't do it where I live. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
It's too risky with the murder of that police officer Ronan Kerr | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
and people getting threatened and all. It's just too risky. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
There is an ongoing threat to serving members of the PSNI | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
and difficulties even for families | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
who remain living in an area like Ardoyne. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
I'm not up for moving my home for anybody, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
so I think just now that she's got older, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
she is aware that it's just not that easy, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
coming from an area like Ardoyne, to join the PSNI. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
Now, she still wants to be involved in law enforcement, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
so she has been looking at the likes of the Irish army or the Garda. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
Come on. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
'All these people I'll be sad to leave. Like it's where I come from, it's my home.' | 0:47:33 | 0:47:39 | |
-Are you looking forward to going out and exploring other areas? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
I'm looking forward to seeing different places that I haven't seen. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
We bring our children into the world and we have to bring them up as best we can | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
and support them as best we can, but they are only loaned to us. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
They will leave us at some stage | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
and it's just right that they move away and further their own careers | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
and set up family for themselves. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
I'd rather she went two hours' drive away as stay here, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
I mean, in Ardoyne, and then have the risk to her own life. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
Lynda Bowes is preparing for her daughter Amanda to leave the family home in the next few weeks. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:33 | |
Today, though, they are getting ready for the reunion being organised by Elaine. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:41 | |
-Are you wearing a necklace? -Yeah, that'll be nice. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
They're shopping for the night and enjoying their time together. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
Lynda, who works as a legal secretary, is coming to terms | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
-with the idea of her daughter spreading her wings. -Yeah, I like that. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
'I know myself, for Amanda to follow her dreams, she has to leave Ardoyne. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
'That's just it, you know? | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
'Just because I was born and reared there and I've lived there all my married life, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:12 | |
'it's not for everybody.' | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
And if her dreams and her life takes her wherever she goes, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
as long as she's happy... She knows where home is. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
And it'll always be there, whether it's in Ardoyne or anywhere else. She'll always know where home is. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:29 | |
You can see the generation that the world is their oyster. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
There's no more... Their views aren't as entrenched as... | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
You know, you don't go further than like three streets away looking for a job. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
They have choices. You know, education, work, training. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
There's so much for them to consider now at this young age, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
as opposed to ourselves who left school and either struggled to get into university or got a job. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:57 | |
And I'm a bit jealous! | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
I think it's important for me | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
to get out and see the rest of Ireland | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
or wherever the job hopefully I'll get takes me. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
But it's always going to be home. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
I'll probably come back some day. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
I'd like to think so, but... | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
It's where I'll always be. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Tracy Campbell's daughter Sarah Jane is about to experience a critical moment in her life. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:32 | |
Sarah Jane's dream is to continue her studies in art. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
But she can only do so if she passes exams in English and Maths. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
And she finds out today if she's succeeded. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
I feel a wee bit nervous, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
but I'm not going to get my hopes up | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
because I don't want to be upset or anything if I've failed or anything, so.. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
At the same time, I'm a wee bit excited because hopefully, I do pass. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
-Oh, I thought you'd run away. -Hi. -Great to see you. -How are you? -I'm good. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:07 | |
-You're looking a million dollars as always. -Thanks. So are you. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
Well, so... We're here with all this exciting news. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
-Yeah? -Have a seat. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
-Are you OK? -Yeah. -All right? -Mm-hm. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
-Calm? -Yeah, yeah. -You've got your Level 2. -Oh, that's good. That's great. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:28 | |
-You were an excellent student. -Thank you. -You worked really, really hard. -Yeah. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:33 | |
Caroline and I have both checked your portfolio and it's fantastic. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
-Thank you. -Are you happy? -Yeah. Thanks for all your help, by the way. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
-You're very welcome. -It was very good. -You're very welcome. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
I will. Thanks. Thank you. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
I passed. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
-You passed? -Yeah. -Congratulations. -Thank you. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
-I'll have to phone Mummy and tell her. -All that hard work paid off. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
Hello? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
I passed, so I did. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
I know. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
And they said I did really well and I was a good student. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
'I passed my course which is great because more doors have opened. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
'I'm proud of myself. I just want to be independent and have a career and be able to look after myself.' | 0:52:22 | 0:52:29 | |
Back in Ardoyne, the big night has come - | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
the reunion organised by Elaine. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
MUSIC: "Unfinished Sympathy" - Massive Attack | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Leona was all set to go, but she's missing a shoe, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
thanks to one of the family pets. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
-You look lovely. -Without my black shoe! | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
-I told you. -I'm raging. -Mavis the dog! | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Do you not want to put any jewellery on, a necklace, no? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
I can't get over my shoe! | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
Well, you might get over it! | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
-What happened? -They're lovely on. -..My dog ate it! | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
You should keep the door locked. You know how many things and shoes she ate of mine. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
And Danny took it off the dog, but I don't know where it is. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
Right, let's go. What about...? Where's Christina? | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
-She's meeting us up there. -Right. -She's going with Amy-Jo. -OK. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
# Like a soul without a mind in a body without a heart | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
# I'm missing every part | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
# Like a soul without a mind in a body without a heart | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
# I'm missing every part... # | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
There's been some doubt about whether this night should take place. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
Neither the church nor Holy Cross School supported it. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
For Elaine, this is the moment of truth. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
I'm sitting waiting on my friends. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
I'm a lonely soul. I'm waiting on the rest of the girls coming up. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
Obviously, I came up early to help the younger ones that are doing the door and looking after the ballots. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:26 | |
I came up to give them a wee hand. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
I take it the rest of them are having a few jars in their houses before they make their way here, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:34 | |
so they'll be here shortly. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
MUSIC: "Go West" - Pet Shop Boys | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
OK, thanks. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
-Do you want a stamp? -Oh, a stamp. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
It would have been nice to see more people, but everybody's got their different ways of remembering it. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:04 | |
I can't believe it's ten years, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
but I'm glad it's ten years behind us. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
I can't wait for them saying it's 20 years gone. I wish it had never happened. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
Give me five. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
This really is just a reunion for the girls that all went through | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
a terrible experience. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
They're coming back and most of them haven't seen each other in years. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
And it's nice for them to get together because they've all put it well behind them | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
and they've all moved on. I'm very proud of them. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
welcome to Crumlin Star tonight for the Holy Cross Ten Years On Reunion. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
How are youse all doing? CHEERING | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
And if you get your cameras out, ladies and gentlemen, and take some photos, OK? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:57 | |
-Loads of smiles... -'I can't believe how well the kids have come on. They're brilliant.' | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
After three, give it a big, massive cheer. One, two, three, big cheer! CHEERING | 0:56:05 | 0:56:11 | |
They're a bunch of beautiful, confident women that are going to excel in life and do really well. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:18 | |
# Tonight's gonna be a good night | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
# That tonight's gonna be a good night | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
# That tonight's gonna be a good, good night | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
# Tonight's the night, hey! Let's live it up... # | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
'I think it was just sort of important that I come to... Sort of like a wee landmark in life. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:40 | |
'Yes, it's been that long and we can officially now move on.' | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
It's nice to see how everyone else has grown. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
Because most of them were younger than I was, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
it's nice to see that they've come out of it OK. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
They've all done so well. It's been really nice to be able to see everyone's done so well. | 0:56:54 | 0:57:00 | |
# I wanna know-ow-ow | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
# If you'll be my girl | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
# Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight... # | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
Friendships that will last for ever. They have a bond now. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
So they do. I think it's a bond that'll never leave them. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
A special bond. It was such a tragic, horrible thing, they've just... | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
-They've just created this bond. It's like they all knit in together. -Yeah. -And help each other out. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:28 | |
OK, here we go! | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
# Hey, hey, baby | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
# Ooh! Ah! | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
# I wanna know-ow-ow if you'll be my girl... # | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
It was a personal thing tonight about people reconnecting, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
not about just mummies reconnecting or mummies and the children reconnecting, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:50 | |
but about a community reconnecting. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
We would not have got through what we got through without the rest of the people in our community. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:58 | |
# I don't wanna lose your love... # | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
MUSIC: "Loaded" - Primal Scream | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
They're strong, independent young women. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
And I'm proud of them. I'm proud of the school. I'm proud of Amanda. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:27 | |
Sometimes, you know, just bad things happen and you move on. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
And you know, maybe we all needed a date or a landmark of some sort. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:44 | |
It's time to put it to bed and move on and I think this is it. | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
Subtitles by Subtext for Red Bee Media Ltd 2011 | 0:59:15 | 0:59:20 | |
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