At the Crossroads


At the Crossroads

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These long streets are at the heart of the predominantly Catholic area of Ardoyne in north Belfast.

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Many of the children here go to the Holy Cross primary school.

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The walk there takes them through the neighbouring Protestant Glenbryn estate.

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It's been an area of sectarian tension for generations.

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10 years ago, when they returned to school for the new year, this happened:

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EXPLOSIONS, CRYING

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You're OK, love.

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'It was like a battlefield'

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only instead of adults involved it was children.

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You're fucking dead!

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I used to sit and question myself - am I doing the right thing bringing my kids up that road?

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They're not meant to walk up!

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Who the fuck are you pushing, you fat bastard?

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'All I remember is noise.'

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It's like a giant crowd in my head.

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Fenian bastards!

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'She was terrified and because they're young girls'

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they didn't do anything wrong.

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'People say, "Get over it. It was 10 years ago."'

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Fair enough, but I'm still angry.

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10 years after the Holy Cross dispute, we've returned to Ardoyne

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to meet some of the mothers and daughters caught up in it.

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How have the events affected their lives and relationships? What are they doing now?

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And has the protest defined how they view the world around them?

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SHOUTS, WHISTLES, HORNS BLARE

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The Holy Cross protests made headlines worldwide.

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The confrontations flared on the back of other quarrels on this road, such as one about flags.

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These four mothers were among dozens who led their daughters through the lines of police and army

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every weekday for three months.

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I'm Tracy Campbell. My daughter is Sarah Jane.

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Sarah Jane was 9 years old during the Holy Cross protest.

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We didn't really talk about it at that time. That was probably our way of coping with it.

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We didn't watch it on television.

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And I didn't buy newspapers.

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So coping with it, I think, was held back in our house.

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It made me feel like, "I don't want to be a part of this.

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"I don't want my life bitter at someone because of their religion."

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It's just made me want to be a better person because of it, more than anything.

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I'm Angie Boyle. This is my daughter Helen. Helen was 10 during the ordeal.

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I didn't really expect adults to ever get on like that.

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You always assumed they knew where to draw the line, but apparently not. It was very shocking.

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We were faced with a wall of hatred

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that we couldn't understand.

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There's never been Sinn Fein...

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We always talked about, you know, the whole effect of it.

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I was trying to help Helen not be bitter.

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-It's easy to get bitter.

-It didn't work!

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Aww, she's not bitter at all, but, em...

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What does bitter mean?

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-You know?

-I'm not forgetful.

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-Yeah...

-So I'm not going to let it go because it happened in the past. Do you know what I mean?

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I don't think it should ever have happened and if you bring it up I'll still be angry about it,

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-but I don't walk around every day with a dark cloud over my head thinking, "Oh!"

-"I'm the victim."

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Just walk straight on!

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I'm Lynda Bowes. My daughter is Amanda. Amanda was 9 during the Holy Cross protest.

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I still don't know if I protected her enough.

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Looking back, should you have just took her out? I don't know.

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My heart says, "You were OK."

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And at the time I was there, but...

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10 years down the line and I wonder. If I seen that on TV,

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who in their right mind would do that? Who would take their daughter through that every day for 3 months?

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She's got nothing to forgive herself for. There's...

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It's... She did nothing wrong.

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If anything, she's taught me to stand up for what you believe in.

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I mean, she went through so much.

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I never seen it.

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It was only until after years and I sort of asked her. You see photographs in the paper and that.

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So I've seen what she went through and I was like, "I don't understand why you're so ashamed..."

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She wasn't ashamed, but she felt so guilty. I never understood why.

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SHOUTING ABUSE

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I'm Elaine Burns and my daughter Leona was 7 years old during the Holy Cross protest.

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Every day you were taking your children through that traumatic experience. Trauma upon trauma.

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The world should see that those people tried to murder babies this morning.

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I knew there was going to be psychological damage

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or emotional damage done and I could see that.

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But I had to weigh that against the right to go to school.

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Walking there, I had no idea as to why they were objecting to us walking to school.

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I had no idea at all. Just...

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I didn't know anything about it.

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Em...

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They just seemed very angry.

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-Don't get up here ever!

-Aye, you're hard with the RUC round you.

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Yes, the RUC!

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The whole experience of Holy Cross has had a major impact on the lives of these mothers and daughters.

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The past 10 years have seen much change, so what does the future hold for them all?

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Ardoyne is a nationalist area of 7,000 people.

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It's long been defined by outsiders by its problems - poverty, crime and sectarian conflict.

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Elaine Burns is a community worker, one of the most outspoken parents during the Holy Cross protests.

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She received death threats at the time of Holy Cross.

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-So your mummy's are all sold then?

-Yes, there's just £60 there.

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I'll get her ticked off my wee list.

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-And then you let me know how yours go.

-Yeah.

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And what about doing the door?

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Her way of dealing with Holy Cross 10 years on is by marking the anniversary with a reunion

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of the parents and children.

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See you later.

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However, not everyone in the community thinks this is a good idea.

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The church is not co-operating, nor is the school.

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Interface areas can be very fragile areas.

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And as a mummy and a person who works in the community,

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I wouldn't want to be doing anything that in any way brings about heightening tensions.

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And, em, you know, the school is still there and it's in a vulnerable area.

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You don't want to be raising any awareness or heightening tensions, but the parents and the children,

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we all still live in this community. It is the parish of Holy Cross and, as a group of people,

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we've decided that there's a wee event and we'd like to... It was a big event at the time,

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but we want to mark it by reconnecting with people that we haven't seen for a couple of years,

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have a night's craic and enjoyment, catch up and see how our children have all moved on

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and how well they're doing.

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And hear some of what the other children's plans are.

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And, as I say, raise a couple of pound for children less well off.

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Elaine has four children. Leona is her eldest daughter.

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Tonight Elaine is taking her to music practice. Leona is a member

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of the Jim O'Neill and Robert Allsopp Memorial Band.

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BAND LEADER SHOUTS

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DRUMS BEAT

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You described it as a republican band. Were you apprehensive when she said she wanted to join?

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Em...

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No, not really. I mean, Leona wouldn't be clued in to politics.

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Leona's only in it for the music.

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As she gets older, she might become more aware of politics

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and obviously she knows some from her Irish history,

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but her whole passion is music.

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-But some people associate the band with republicanism.

-A lot of people associate it with republicanism.

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I joined a flute band because I've always played musical instruments.

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I was playing in a music school not too long back.

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I decided I wanted to play the flute.

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Tracy Campbell and her daughter Sarah Jane still live in Ardoyne.

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Sarah Jane comes here to the local boxing club twice a week with her sister Megan.

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We just came up for a bit of training

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and a bit of work on the pads and warming up.

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Just footwork and shadow boxing and stuff.

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We've been off for a while, doing schoolwork and stuff, so we're trying to get our fitness back up.

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It's hard at first, but once you get it, it's a good feeling.

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'I like the way it gives me a good feeling, you know.

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'No drug in this world will ever make you feel that way.

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'It's a feeling you couldn't buy.'

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I find it a lot easier to express myself physically

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than, you know, even speaking sometimes

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and, like, writing things down.

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In fact, Sarah Jane has a severe form of dyslexia.

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She's now in her late teens, but faces major problems with even the most everyday tasks.

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'Even, like, in everyday situations like paying on the bus,

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'counting out the right kind of money and getting your change back, it can be really embarrassing.

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'Or the time as well.

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'I find it difficult to tell the time sometimes as well.

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'And that's really embarrassing.'

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Her teachers up in secondary school took her in and learned her the time in every way you can learn it

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to try to make it easier for her. She knew it for a few hours and then it was gone again.

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They'll come and check your work and they'll correct it, but you don't get tutored or anything.

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'Reading things, if I was trying to read big instructions,

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'I can read it, but I couldn't tell you'

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what I've just read because I'm concentrating so hard on reading the actual words

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that I don't get the meaning of what I've just read, what it's saying to me.

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'I always worry. I'm worried in case I can't support myself or look after myself.

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'And, like, I don't wanna

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'like, grow up depending on other people forever.'

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How did you get on?

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Where does Holy Cross fit in Sarah Jane's life? Has it had an impact?

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'I would say it definitely has, but they're not going down the road of bigotry and sectarianism.'

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I think if anything, it's drove them more,

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it's made them more curious of the other side, as some people put it, of the other community.

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And so much that they'll socialise and they'll mix, no problem.

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Sarah Jane still has her sights set on college, in spite of her difficulties.

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Lynda Bowes' daughter Amanda made it to college.

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Amanda is at Queen's doing a degree in film studies.

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She's the first member of her family to go to university.

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'It was tough in the beginning, but it's been great ever since. Once you get settled in

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'you can't really imagine going back to school.'

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There's too much structure and sitting around doing nothing. Here you can practise and rehearse.

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-Do you see them all?

-See that one we're editing?

-Uh-huh.

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He gave us the idea for the index. We weren't sure how to get it to end.

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Amanda has been living at home throughout her first year,

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-but Lynda has had her concerns about college life.

-'Terrified.

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'Terrified. But I think it's something that I never done.'

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So I don't know what that is like.

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So I'm a bit worried for her

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and nagging her. A bit. More about personal safety and being careful,

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but I'm proud of her that she wants to do it.

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'She wants to try these things and that's all I wanted for them.'

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Amanda was traumatised by the experience of Holy Cross.

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Could this tarnish her time at college?

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She doesn't like

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not knowing where she is, to this day.

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She doesn't like, em, not going out

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in a crowd of people, such...

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You know, if one friend said to her, "There's a new bar,"

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or a new disco, "Do you want to try it?", no.

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She has to ease into it gently.

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And she likes to know she has a group of people around her, to support her.

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This camera's a modified version, so switching it on here...

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'I don't like drunk people. I can't deal with them. I don't know why.

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'And guys, especially.'

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Go to the students union, everyone's having a good time, but there's always one who tries to do something

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and that's what scared me from going out. I didn't know what was going to happen.

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If something did get out of control, was I going to be OK? Stupid wee things like that.

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Amanda has come to the end of her first year, but she has decisions to make

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about how she spends her next two years.

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Angie Boyle now lives in another part of north Belfast.

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Two of her three children are still at home, including 20-year-old Helen.

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We're going to have to move.

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You know, to get behind and get the wires disconnected.

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The family is now about to move again. For Angie, it's a big step.

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She's taken on a mortgage and will be moving into a bigger house,

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but they're all looking forward to the freedom which comes with owning their own home.

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'It's definitely going to be exciting getting into our new house.'

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And knowing it's your own and you can do whatever you want to it

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and really put your stamp on it the way you can't do when renting.

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And we've chosen it, which is nice as well.

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In Ardoyne, you didn't have a say.

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You had a house, you lived in it and that was it!

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It's the start of a whole new set of stresses, but it's all good.

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'I grew up in... mainly in Ardoyne.

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'It was rough, quite impoverished, and it's not the life I want for my children.'

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Where are these wires belonging to?

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Angie works for the council.

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After Holy Cross, she did a degree in fine art and Helen is now studying law.

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'For me, personally, it was the difference between...

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'How can I be a role model to my children? I thought I'd go back to education'

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and try to expand that, just so I could potentially make myself employable in the future.

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And find maybe a way out

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for myself and for my children.

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Anything that's junk, we'll just leave here.

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'I never felt as though I fitted in in Ardoyne or that I belonged there.

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'I was just always a bit different. It was the same with my whole family.

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'We never really belonged there.'

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We knew we didn't fit in. We weren't part of that mentality

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where your whole family lives in the one street.

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So we never really... The mentality wasn't for us. The area wasn't right for us.

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Elaine Burns and her daughter Leona are still very much involved in life in Ardoyne.

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Elaine works for a voluntary organisation in the neighbourhood

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providing advice about housing and benefit issues.

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'I always grew up with a wee saying. "You bloom where you're planted."

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'And my family connections, my mummy, my sisters,

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'we all live here.'

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And, you know, being close to family,

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when you're born in a community that's only 7,000 people

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and there's probably a mile radius around it,

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people become very close.

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We're a very close-knit community. And with our families as well.

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You grab a wee seat down here for me. Close that wee door there.

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-Yours is a wee 50, is it?

-Aye, I filled one out before.

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-I think she's gone to Australia or America now.

-Oh, Dorothy.

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Aye.

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-Right, so it's depression and anxiety.

-Anxiety.

-Right, OK.

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-I know, she has...

-She's written it down.

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Panic attacks and stuff. Mainly around depression and anxiety.

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-I got stabbed a couple of years ago.

-OK. And where were you stabbed?

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-Oh, on the chest, two in the shoulder and one in the back, punctured lung.

-Right.

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'I absolutely love the job that I do,

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'where I can see the satisfaction on someone's face when you've helped them achieve something'

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or get them a benefit that they were entitled to that helps them and their family in a better state,

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I don't want for anything else. That's what I'm happy with.

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Elaine has also been busy planning the reunion for the parents and children involved in Holy Cross

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10 years ago.

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This is the Crumlin Star, a local club in the area.

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They have offered the facilities of their cabaret hall for us to host our wee event.

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Hi, Gerry!

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-Well, Elaine, welcome. Everything sorted out?

-That's just what I'm up for,

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to make sure everything is OK.

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They're going to just have the DJ, disco and run a few wee ballots.

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I hope it's good and rightly so after the length of time.

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-It'll bring back memories, obviously.

-It'll be good to catch up with everybody, aye.

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-I'll see you then.

-Bye!

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She's conscious that lack of support from the church and school could affect how many people turn up.

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So is she concerned?

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I think when you're organising an event, no matter what, you're always concerned about numbers

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and if the crowd's going to be there. A lot of times you worry for nothing. I've got to the stage now,

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you organise an event. If people go, they go. If they don't, they don't.

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As long as those who do attend have a good night and an opportunity to catch up with old friends.

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That's what I'm looking forward to.

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Eight o'clock, then. Until they drop!

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Elaine's daughter, Leona, is coming to the end of term at school.

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Like many of her friends, she now attends the Catholic secondary school in neighbouring Ballysillan.

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'I go to Our Lady of Mercy secondary school. I enjoy playing sports, I enjoy music.

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'And I'm studying "A" levels in school at the minute.'

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Leona has been considering her career options and she's decided that she wants to join the police.

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I'm not the type to sit in an office. I want to be out and active

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and helping make a difference.

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I know I would enjoy the job as well.

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But in a community like Ardoyne, a career choice like this is not so simple.

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I live in an area with strong republican views.

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And we do have a growing number of republicans who are anti the Good Friday Agreement

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and the peace process. So when you live in an area like Ardoyne, it's not that easy.

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If you live maybe in the leafy suburbs... There's a thing about "castle Catholics".

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But if my daughter was probably born in the Malone Road, there probably wouldn't be any questions asked.

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She could go and choose that if it was the career she wanted.

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So just at the minute it's not that easy for someone from working class areas like Ardoyne.

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It's a major decision for Leona with implications for her whole family.

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Sarah Jane wants to go to college and is being encouraged by her mum Tracy,

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who works as a dinner lady at Ballysillan.

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What'll you take for dessert, love?

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Tracy and her friend Paula are supporting Elaine's reunion.

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-Do you think it's right to mark the 10th anniversary?

-Just to remember it quietly ourselves.

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There's no point in taking it up and shouting in people's faces

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because really and truly it's your own personal thing.

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Everybody felt different when it happened, everybody felt different when it started, finished

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and every so many years on. You've seen people maybe change their attitude towards it.

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People don't want to talk about it. Some do.

0:27:430:27:46

Although Tracy's daughter Sarah Jane has severe dyslexia,

0:27:510:27:55

she has a flair for art and has been doing a BTech for the past two years.

0:27:550:28:01

She met her boyfriend Adam at the course.

0:28:010:28:05

Today they're both meeting her tutor.

0:28:050:28:09

-'Art's like a big part of us because we do it every day.

-Every day.

0:28:090:28:14

-'Every day has something to do with art.

-Yeah.'

0:28:140:28:18

-That's one done with oil pastels.

-Which was your favourite medium when you first came here.

-Yeah.

0:28:200:28:26

Were you using paint when you first came here or just oil pastels?

0:28:260:28:30

I only started paint when I started here.

0:28:300:28:34

-That's Adam.

-There you are.

-With his grumpy face.

0:28:360:28:40

-Where's that one?

-Do you know where the Shamrock is in Ardoyne?

0:28:400:28:44

Yeah? That's where I live. It's the houses there. I didn't get that completely finished,

0:28:440:28:51

that one. That one's in Jamaica Street.

0:28:510:28:55

We went to the art show at the art exhibition at the University of Ulster last week.

0:28:550:29:01

Just going and looking at everybody's work gave us such ideas.

0:29:010:29:06

It was inspiring for us and we started working harder, doing more.

0:29:060:29:11

It rubbed off on us, to give us more ideas.

0:29:110:29:15

A scary one.

0:29:150:29:17

Yeah!

0:29:180:29:20

I see I don't know how many students every year. Every once in a while, somebody actually stands out.

0:29:200:29:27

Sarah Jane is one of those students.

0:29:270:29:30

It's very, very restrained, very pared-down.

0:29:300:29:34

And just very honest. It's a very honest communication.

0:29:340:29:37

She's just telling like who she is and where she comes from.

0:29:370:29:41

Sarah Jane's natural progression would be a foundation course for a degree.

0:29:410:29:46

But she can only do this if her English and Maths are up to it.

0:29:460:29:51

She has to pass exams in both if she's to get a place on the course.

0:29:510:29:56

Who's that?

0:29:560:29:58

'We can't understand, you know, why you need Maths and English

0:29:580:30:05

'for just to simply sit down and draw.

0:30:050:30:08

'But you need some written work besides your drawings, your sketches.'

0:30:080:30:14

That actually looks like him.

0:30:140:30:16

I'm gutted, to be quite honest and truthful, absolutely gutted

0:30:160:30:20

because she's so passionate about art.

0:30:200:30:23

And you know, she really so wants to go further on in art.

0:30:230:30:29

And she's just hit a brick wall, really, you know?

0:30:290:30:33

God help her, she'll go and try anything.

0:30:330:30:36

She says to me, "Mummy, I feel like I'm going to go into this room and feel humiliated."

0:30:360:30:42

With the problems she has, along comes frustration and embarrassment

0:30:420:30:46

when faced with these situations like sitting exams.

0:30:460:30:49

But she's still willing to go and face all that, to try.

0:30:490:30:53

Amanda Bowes has lived at home during her first year at Queen's University.

0:31:020:31:08

A legacy of the trauma of the Holy Cross dispute

0:31:090:31:13

has meant Amanda has always been nervous of venturing too far from the safety of her family in Ardoyne.

0:31:130:31:19

But recently, she has broken news of a major decision to her mother Lynda.

0:31:200:31:25

Hiya.

0:31:250:31:26

She's decided to leave home,

0:31:260:31:29

but she wants her mother to see the house she's moving into with college friends.

0:31:290:31:34

They're getting another viewing with the estate agent.

0:31:340:31:37

-The furniture? Is that not going to be...?

-Yeah, the television.

0:31:370:31:42

It's a huge step for both mother and daughter.

0:31:420:31:46

Look at this!

0:31:460:31:48

'Amanda, generally, to be honest with you, has always been very shy.

0:31:480:31:53

'Not even shy. I would say more reserved.'

0:31:530:31:56

She likes to get her bearings and she's a bit of a worrier.

0:31:560:32:01

You would be using the front room as a living room, really.

0:32:010:32:05

'Looking at her now, the girl from a year ago... It's a different person.

0:32:050:32:11

'She's a totally different person.'

0:32:110:32:14

She's gone from strength to strength, so much so, she's leaving me.

0:32:140:32:20

-It's smaller, but it's still got a big bed in it.

-This was my sister's bedroom.

-Was it?

0:32:200:32:25

'I need to be able to stand on my own two feet for the first time.

0:32:250:32:29

'All the way through school, I've had a stable environment'

0:32:290:32:33

and should anything ever have gone wrong, Mummy was there to fix it

0:32:330:32:38

and Daddy was always there to fix it.

0:32:380:32:40

I think that I need to prove to myself that I could fix it,

0:32:400:32:44

whatever was wrong, I'm able to tackle it on my own

0:32:440:32:48

and be able to say, "Yes, I'm strong enough, I'm independent now."

0:32:480:32:52

-You haven't seen this one. Look at the size of this one. Ignore the mess.

-It's normally the biggest.

0:32:520:32:58

'It has been the making of her.

0:32:580:33:00

'She still has friends, people in her circle from her secondary school,

0:33:000:33:05

'but she's met these other people from all over the place and they get on like a house on fire.'

0:33:050:33:11

She's much more independent now than she's ever been.

0:33:110:33:15

And I have to say, so far, so good.

0:33:150:33:18

She's with a really, really nice group of people.

0:33:180:33:21

And, um...people who never knew she was involved in a protest.

0:33:210:33:26

And so, em...

0:33:260:33:28

She didn't have that baggage either.

0:33:300:33:32

LAUGHTER That's an achievement!

0:33:320:33:35

This is the one we're fighting over.

0:33:360:33:39

-Who likes the sloping ceilings?

-I like them. I think they're so cool.

-This is very nice.

0:33:390:33:45

Once they work out who's sleeping in what room and we get the basics sorted,

0:33:450:33:50

because there's some competition for one of the bedrooms...

0:33:500:33:53

Once that's done, they'll be fine.

0:33:530:33:56

This is my first trip over, so I know she's not that far away.

0:33:560:34:00

Now that I've made the drive from our house over, I know she's in relatively easy reach.

0:34:000:34:07

-And contented.

-It's almost like a coming of age.

0:34:070:34:10

It is. It is.

0:34:100:34:12

When she said when she first went to uni, she was staying at home, that sort of made my day, you know?

0:34:120:34:18

But no, she's made a very good choice both in property and in house-mates.

0:34:180:34:24

So I'm happy for her. I'm excited for them.

0:34:240:34:27

How excited are you, Amanda, about this now?

0:34:270:34:30

More excited now that Mummy's seen it and she's OK with it.

0:34:300:34:34

She's OK, it's all fine. I'm excited now.

0:34:340:34:37

Still nervous obviously, but, yeah...

0:34:370:34:40

-New beginning?

-Yes, definitely. A new start, sort of.

0:34:400:34:45

Angie Boyle has been moving house

0:34:520:34:54

at the same time as Helen has been doing her second-year exams in Law.

0:34:540:34:59

Helen is on her way to the library to study.

0:35:010:35:04

She sees her education as fundamental to all her plans for the future.

0:35:050:35:11

Angie's enjoying finding new places for her things.

0:35:110:35:15

They include her own artwork.

0:35:150:35:18

I've had to put my artwork here

0:35:180:35:21

because I haven't figured out...

0:35:210:35:24

I'm not at the stage yet to figure out where I'll store it,

0:35:240:35:28

where I'm going to work on new paintings and so on.

0:35:280:35:32

This one is of Holy Cross.

0:35:330:35:35

This was actually done from the time...

0:35:350:35:38

I done this probably about a year ago.

0:35:380:35:42

Why did you decide to do this one a year ago?

0:35:420:35:46

I was always thinking I should do something, just even as a cathartic process maybe.

0:35:460:35:51

But in most of the paintings that I've done,

0:35:510:35:55

they are all essentially a reference

0:35:550:35:58

from how the whole thing of Holy Cross affected me, I suppose,

0:35:580:36:03

and how apathetic and how sort of...

0:36:030:36:06

You know, you're lacking in power to change anything or make anything different.

0:36:060:36:12

This one's of Helen and this is Ardoyne.

0:36:120:36:15

It was very much based on the Holy Cross experience because...

0:36:150:36:20

Again I have my...

0:36:220:36:25

my areas.

0:36:250:36:27

And they kind of say where she is and how strong she is,

0:36:270:36:31

even though all that happened and she experienced that level of hatred going on

0:36:310:36:36

and how people can be so hatred-filled, you know?

0:36:360:36:40

And this is my bedroom

0:36:440:36:46

which is a bit of a mess at the moment.

0:36:460:36:49

And the colours are a bit horrendous.

0:36:490:36:53

But maybe there's a child been in here or something before I had the house, so again small steps.

0:36:540:37:01

But that's it. That's about as much movement I have with my furniture as you can see, basically, here.

0:37:010:37:08

So it's just a matter of me coming in, giving it a good dose of bright paint.

0:37:080:37:13

Light, rather, and natural.

0:37:130:37:16

So, yeah, that's this room.

0:37:160:37:19

And in here is Helen's room.

0:37:190:37:22

She's a bit spoilt, like, on it so... for space.

0:37:250:37:28

She's got the biggest...probably the biggest room in the house, actually, this is.

0:37:280:37:34

And, um...you know, she works hard.

0:37:340:37:37

It's OK. We're happy enough with the situation the way it is, so, you know...

0:37:370:37:44

And that room, anyway, that I'm in is about the size of the house I lived in in Ardoyne,

0:37:440:37:49

so you know, it's just like the squeeze is back on, to squeeze your furniture into small rooms.

0:37:490:37:56

But maybe I should get rid of some of my furniture.

0:37:560:38:00

Why did you give Helen the big room?

0:38:000:38:03

Well, we came down a couple of times

0:38:030:38:05

and we just decided, you know,

0:38:050:38:08

it's no big deal if Helen gets the big room.

0:38:080:38:12

It's a big house with lots of rooms.

0:38:120:38:14

It's all good.

0:38:140:38:17

For Helen, it's been a long road from Holy Cross to Law School.

0:38:210:38:27

I meet so many people who just have no idea... They're so... I just find them quite ridiculous.

0:38:270:38:34

They're so shallow or something.

0:38:340:38:36

They've no depth to them because they've never known hardship

0:38:360:38:40

and they've never known what it's like to have to work hard for something because it matters,

0:38:400:38:46

it's the difference between you getting to go to school and having an education or not.

0:38:460:38:51

They wouldn't have any understanding of that.

0:38:510:38:55

I don't want to have to struggle in my whole life

0:38:550:38:58

with money and in terms of where we can live and what you can afford to do.

0:38:580:39:03

From growing up with our parents, we never had a lot of money when we were younger

0:39:030:39:09

and we don't have a lot of money now.

0:39:090:39:11

That's the driving force as well behind my decision to go into law and to try and get a well-paid job.

0:39:110:39:17

If you're working as a paralegal for so many years,

0:39:170:39:21

-you get automatically accepted on to the Institute.

-Yeah.

0:39:210:39:25

Yeah, I know a guy who did that.

0:39:250:39:27

Helen's ambitions mean that she's looking even further afield.

0:39:270:39:32

She's approached a prestigious law firm in London and got a placement over the summer

0:39:320:39:38

which she hopes will open more doors for her.

0:39:380:39:41

I'm really excited about going and seeing what life's like in London for the two weeks

0:39:410:39:46

and what it's like to work there and the kind of work you'll be doing.

0:39:460:39:50

Hopefully, at the end of it, I might be offered a training contract.

0:39:500:39:55

Tracy Campbell and her daughter Sarah Jane have had the recent worry of Sarah Jane's looming exams.

0:39:590:40:05

But today, there is some relief

0:40:160:40:19

as it's Sarah Jane's 19th birthday.

0:40:190:40:22

Her boyfriend Adam is treating her to a romantic dinner.

0:40:220:40:27

I've been going out with a guy in my class called Adam.

0:40:280:40:32

We met last year, but we've only started going out this year.

0:40:320:40:36

But he's really lovely.

0:40:360:40:39

I just wanted to give her a wee surprise, just a wee treat,

0:40:430:40:47

so I told her I'd take her out for dinner.

0:40:470:40:50

We went to the cinema last night, so...

0:40:500:40:53

This is something else.

0:40:540:40:57

LAUGHTER

0:41:000:41:02

On the face of it, Sarah Jane and Adam are like any other two teenagers in love.

0:41:030:41:09

But in north Belfast, life is not as simple as that.

0:41:090:41:13

Adam is a Protestant.

0:41:130:41:16

She brought her boyfriend home and they'd obviously been dating for quite a while.

0:41:160:41:23

They were very familiar, as an observant parent, with each other.

0:41:230:41:27

And she had no problems whatsoever,

0:41:270:41:29

you know, telling us he's from the other community.

0:41:290:41:33

You know, um, which, you know...

0:41:330:41:36

I just reckon we all live together here. We'd really like to see that.

0:41:360:41:40

And that was just saying that's the end of that.

0:41:400:41:43

So it's now just Adam.

0:41:430:41:46

It's not Adam from here or Adam's a this or that.

0:41:460:41:49

It's just Adam. He's a really nice kid.

0:41:490:41:52

'I wanted him to be comfortable first with me and to feel like he can trust me

0:41:540:41:59

'before I brought him to here.

0:41:590:42:01

'But he came in and then he knew he was OK.'

0:42:010:42:05

I might just get the fish and chips or just the chicken goujons.

0:42:050:42:09

I was the same when I was going down

0:42:090:42:11

to meet his parents and all too,

0:42:110:42:14

but you realise that it's OK, you know.

0:42:140:42:17

Give us a kiss.

0:42:180:42:20

Angie Boyle is preparing to say goodbye to her daughter Helen.

0:42:340:42:39

For a couple of weeks anyway.

0:42:390:42:42

Helen sets off today for London where she'll spend two weeks

0:42:430:42:47

with a commercial law company

0:42:470:42:49

and it has the potential to provide her with an internship when she graduates in a year's time.

0:42:490:42:55

'My ambition is definitely based in London.

0:42:550:42:58

'In the next couple of years, that's definitely where I see myself working

0:42:580:43:03

'and that's where I'm really hoping I'm going to get to go.'

0:43:030:43:06

Well, we'll miss you.

0:43:060:43:09

'It's not that I'm desperate to get out of here. I mean, this is my home.

0:43:090:43:14

'I love Belfast. You spend your life here and this is where all my friends and all my family are.'

0:43:140:43:21

But career-wise, the opportunities are elsewhere.

0:43:210:43:25

That's just the way it is.

0:43:250:43:27

I don't mind either getting away to experience living in other places

0:43:270:43:31

where there aren't so many problems and so much history and so much going on,

0:43:310:43:37

so it will be interesting to see what life's like elsewhere, how other people live,

0:43:370:43:42

without all this hatred in their lives.

0:43:420:43:45

So, yeah, my plans are definitely to leave again.

0:43:460:43:49

That's her. Right...

0:44:030:44:05

It's a really good opportunity and worst-case scenario,

0:44:090:44:13

if she didn't get picked, she's just got to stay with her mummy.

0:44:130:44:17

How bad is that?

0:44:170:44:19

It's all good, you know.

0:44:190:44:22

I think if Helen has her way, she won't move away.

0:44:220:44:26

You know, she loves it here

0:44:260:44:28

and she likes being close.

0:44:280:44:31

She loves to travel. Don't get me wrong.

0:44:310:44:34

But as for living somewhere for...

0:44:340:44:36

you know, as a constant thing for her future, I'm not too sure about that.

0:44:360:44:42

I'd always see her wanting to be back here, you know?

0:44:420:44:45

I don't think there's any harm in wanting your children to achieve,

0:44:460:44:50

but I think there is harm when you start to want to live through your kids

0:44:500:44:56

and you want to browbeat them into being something you never were, you never could be.

0:44:560:45:02

I think that would be horrendous.

0:45:020:45:04

I think parents like that are... you know, they're a bit misguided.

0:45:040:45:10

As you can see, a few changes.

0:45:250:45:28

-CUP DROPS

-Oops!

0:45:300:45:33

TAPS KEYS ON PHONE

0:45:440:45:47

I'm just texting Helen to let her know that everything's OK.

0:45:470:45:52

I'm back and... Is she OK, more or less?

0:45:520:45:56

It'll be quiet without her, like, so it will.

0:45:560:46:00

But, you know, two weeks and she'll be back

0:46:000:46:03

and that'll be me running after her and helping her with this, that and the other.

0:46:030:46:09

Elaine Burns' daughter Leona has also been considering her career options.

0:46:150:46:21

Since childhood, she has nurtured an ambition to be a police officer,

0:46:220:46:27

but recently, the adult realities of who she is and where she comes from have tempered that ambition.

0:46:270:46:34

I always wanted to be a police officer and in the past few months,

0:46:350:46:39

a year maybe, I've just realised that I can't do it.

0:46:390:46:44

I can't do it where I live.

0:46:440:46:46

It's too risky with the murder of that police officer Ronan Kerr

0:46:460:46:50

and people getting threatened and all. It's just too risky.

0:46:500:46:55

There is an ongoing threat to serving members of the PSNI

0:46:560:47:01

and difficulties even for families

0:47:010:47:04

who remain living in an area like Ardoyne.

0:47:040:47:07

I'm not up for moving my home for anybody,

0:47:070:47:10

so I think just now that she's got older,

0:47:100:47:13

she is aware that it's just not that easy,

0:47:130:47:16

coming from an area like Ardoyne, to join the PSNI.

0:47:160:47:20

Now, she still wants to be involved in law enforcement,

0:47:210:47:24

so she has been looking at the likes of the Irish army or the Garda.

0:47:240:47:29

Come on.

0:47:310:47:33

'All these people I'll be sad to leave. Like it's where I come from, it's my home.'

0:47:330:47:39

-Are you looking forward to going out and exploring other areas?

-Yeah, definitely.

0:47:390:47:44

I'm looking forward to seeing different places that I haven't seen.

0:47:440:47:49

We bring our children into the world and we have to bring them up as best we can

0:47:500:47:55

and support them as best we can, but they are only loaned to us.

0:47:550:47:59

They will leave us at some stage

0:47:590:48:02

and it's just right that they move away and further their own careers

0:48:020:48:06

and set up family for themselves.

0:48:060:48:09

I'd rather she went two hours' drive away as stay here,

0:48:090:48:13

I mean, in Ardoyne, and then have the risk to her own life.

0:48:130:48:18

Lynda Bowes is preparing for her daughter Amanda to leave the family home in the next few weeks.

0:48:270:48:33

Today, though, they are getting ready for the reunion being organised by Elaine.

0:48:350:48:41

-Are you wearing a necklace?

-Yeah, that'll be nice.

0:48:410:48:45

They're shopping for the night and enjoying their time together.

0:48:450:48:49

Lynda, who works as a legal secretary, is coming to terms

0:48:490:48:53

-with the idea of her daughter spreading her wings.

-Yeah, I like that.

0:48:530:48:58

'I know myself, for Amanda to follow her dreams, she has to leave Ardoyne.

0:48:580:49:03

'That's just it, you know?

0:49:030:49:06

'Just because I was born and reared there and I've lived there all my married life,

0:49:060:49:12

'it's not for everybody.'

0:49:120:49:14

And if her dreams and her life takes her wherever she goes,

0:49:140:49:19

as long as she's happy... She knows where home is.

0:49:190:49:22

And it'll always be there, whether it's in Ardoyne or anywhere else. She'll always know where home is.

0:49:220:49:29

You can see the generation that the world is their oyster.

0:49:290:49:33

There's no more... Their views aren't as entrenched as...

0:49:330:49:37

You know, you don't go further than like three streets away looking for a job.

0:49:370:49:42

They have choices. You know, education, work, training.

0:49:420:49:46

There's so much for them to consider now at this young age,

0:49:460:49:51

as opposed to ourselves who left school and either struggled to get into university or got a job.

0:49:510:49:57

And I'm a bit jealous!

0:49:570:50:00

I think it's important for me

0:50:000:50:03

to get out and see the rest of Ireland

0:50:030:50:06

or wherever the job hopefully I'll get takes me.

0:50:060:50:09

But it's always going to be home.

0:50:090:50:12

I'll probably come back some day.

0:50:130:50:15

I'd like to think so, but...

0:50:150:50:18

It's where I'll always be.

0:50:180:50:21

Tracy Campbell's daughter Sarah Jane is about to experience a critical moment in her life.

0:50:260:50:32

Sarah Jane's dream is to continue her studies in art.

0:50:330:50:38

But she can only do so if she passes exams in English and Maths.

0:50:380:50:43

And she finds out today if she's succeeded.

0:50:440:50:47

I feel a wee bit nervous,

0:50:470:50:49

but I'm not going to get my hopes up

0:50:490:50:51

because I don't want to be upset or anything if I've failed or anything, so..

0:50:510:50:56

At the same time, I'm a wee bit excited because hopefully, I do pass.

0:50:560:51:01

-Oh, I thought you'd run away.

-Hi.

-Great to see you.

-How are you?

-I'm good.

0:51:020:51:07

-You're looking a million dollars as always.

-Thanks. So are you.

0:51:070:51:11

Well, so... We're here with all this exciting news.

0:51:110:51:14

-Yeah?

-Have a seat.

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-Are you OK?

-Yeah.

-All right?

-Mm-hm.

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-Calm?

-Yeah, yeah.

-You've got your Level 2.

-Oh, that's good. That's great.

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-You were an excellent student.

-Thank you.

-You worked really, really hard.

-Yeah.

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Caroline and I have both checked your portfolio and it's fantastic.

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-Thank you.

-Are you happy?

-Yeah. Thanks for all your help, by the way.

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-You're very welcome.

-It was very good.

-You're very welcome.

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I will. Thanks. Thank you.

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I passed.

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-You passed?

-Yeah.

-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

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-I'll have to phone Mummy and tell her.

-All that hard work paid off.

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Hello?

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I passed, so I did.

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I know.

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And they said I did really well and I was a good student.

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'I passed my course which is great because more doors have opened.

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'I'm proud of myself. I just want to be independent and have a career and be able to look after myself.'

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Back in Ardoyne, the big night has come -

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the reunion organised by Elaine.

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MUSIC: "Unfinished Sympathy" - Massive Attack

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Leona was all set to go, but she's missing a shoe,

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thanks to one of the family pets.

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-You look lovely.

-Without my black shoe!

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-I told you.

-I'm raging.

-Mavis the dog!

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Do you not want to put any jewellery on, a necklace, no?

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I can't get over my shoe!

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Well, you might get over it!

0:53:190:53:22

-What happened?

-They're lovely on.

-..My dog ate it!

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You should keep the door locked. You know how many things and shoes she ate of mine.

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And Danny took it off the dog, but I don't know where it is.

0:53:320:53:36

Right, let's go. What about...? Where's Christina?

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-She's meeting us up there.

-Right.

-She's going with Amy-Jo.

-OK.

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# Like a soul without a mind in a body without a heart

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# I'm missing every part

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# Like a soul without a mind in a body without a heart

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# I'm missing every part... #

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There's been some doubt about whether this night should take place.

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Neither the church nor Holy Cross School supported it.

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For Elaine, this is the moment of truth.

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I'm sitting waiting on my friends.

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I'm a lonely soul. I'm waiting on the rest of the girls coming up.

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Obviously, I came up early to help the younger ones that are doing the door and looking after the ballots.

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I came up to give them a wee hand.

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I take it the rest of them are having a few jars in their houses before they make their way here,

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so they'll be here shortly.

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MUSIC: "Go West" - Pet Shop Boys

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OK, thanks.

0:54:470:54:48

-Do you want a stamp?

-Oh, a stamp.

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It would have been nice to see more people, but everybody's got their different ways of remembering it.

0:54:570:55:04

I can't believe it's ten years,

0:55:040:55:06

but I'm glad it's ten years behind us.

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I can't wait for them saying it's 20 years gone. I wish it had never happened.

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Give me five.

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This really is just a reunion for the girls that all went through

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a terrible experience.

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They're coming back and most of them haven't seen each other in years.

0:55:260:55:30

And it's nice for them to get together because they've all put it well behind them

0:55:300:55:35

and they've all moved on. I'm very proud of them.

0:55:350:55:39

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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welcome to Crumlin Star tonight for the Holy Cross Ten Years On Reunion.

0:55:430:55:47

How are youse all doing? CHEERING

0:55:470:55:50

And if you get your cameras out, ladies and gentlemen, and take some photos, OK?

0:55:510:55:57

-Loads of smiles...

-'I can't believe how well the kids have come on. They're brilliant.'

0:56:000:56:05

After three, give it a big, massive cheer. One, two, three, big cheer! CHEERING

0:56:050:56:11

They're a bunch of beautiful, confident women that are going to excel in life and do really well.

0:56:110:56:18

# Tonight's gonna be a good night

0:56:180:56:21

# That tonight's gonna be a good night

0:56:210:56:25

# That tonight's gonna be a good, good night

0:56:250:56:29

# Tonight's the night, hey! Let's live it up... #

0:56:290:56:33

'I think it was just sort of important that I come to... Sort of like a wee landmark in life.

0:56:330:56:40

'Yes, it's been that long and we can officially now move on.'

0:56:400:56:45

It's nice to see how everyone else has grown.

0:56:450:56:48

Because most of them were younger than I was,

0:56:480:56:51

it's nice to see that they've come out of it OK.

0:56:510:56:54

They've all done so well. It's been really nice to be able to see everyone's done so well.

0:56:540:57:00

# I wanna know-ow-ow

0:57:000:57:03

# If you'll be my girl

0:57:030:57:05

# Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight... #

0:57:050:57:08

Friendships that will last for ever. They have a bond now.

0:57:090:57:13

So they do. I think it's a bond that'll never leave them.

0:57:130:57:17

A special bond. It was such a tragic, horrible thing, they've just...

0:57:170:57:22

-They've just created this bond. It's like they all knit in together.

-Yeah.

-And help each other out.

0:57:220:57:28

OK, here we go!

0:57:280:57:30

# Hey, hey, baby

0:57:300:57:34

# Ooh! Ah!

0:57:340:57:36

# I wanna know-ow-ow if you'll be my girl... #

0:57:360:57:40

It was a personal thing tonight about people reconnecting,

0:57:400:57:44

not about just mummies reconnecting or mummies and the children reconnecting,

0:57:440:57:50

but about a community reconnecting.

0:57:500:57:52

We would not have got through what we got through without the rest of the people in our community.

0:57:520:57:58

# I don't wanna lose your love... #

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MUSIC: "Loaded" - Primal Scream

0:58:050:58:07

They're strong, independent young women.

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And I'm proud of them. I'm proud of the school. I'm proud of Amanda.

0:58:220:58:27

Sometimes, you know, just bad things happen and you move on.

0:58:340:58:38

And you know, maybe we all needed a date or a landmark of some sort.

0:58:380:58:44

It's time to put it to bed and move on and I think this is it.

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