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When the monolithic Heygate Housing Estate | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
materialised at the foot of the road where I lived, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
it wiped out the house where I was born, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
the tenements that housed my ancestors | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
as well as shops, schools and churches. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
It was 1974. The overcast summer of a global recession. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
But the prospect of a better future brightened those sombre days. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
Those of us in the rising generation loved it here. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
We welcomed every breeze block that brought change. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
I guess the estate brought the future closer to home in an area that was dominated by the past. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:49 | |
I remember being dazzled by the Persil whiteness of the fitted kitchens | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
and the stairwells seemed to head to heaven and away from the slate grey streets below. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
I guess we thought this was the modern world and it was ours for the taking. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
This estate was built as a taster for the future | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
yet, at the tender age of 37, it's derelict and it's ready for the demolition men. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
Homes like these became part of a landscape of ASBOs and crack dens | 0:01:20 | 0:01:26 | |
that helped sound the death-knell on social housing. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
The Heygate's legacy is one of failure | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
and there are few, I think, that will regret its passing. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
But for me, this place, the Heygate, is part of a much bigger, brighter story. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
It's part of a revolution and something as important as the birth of the welfare state | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
or the introduction of secondary education | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and something that's often neglected. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
It's a chapter in the history of British council housing. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
# I can remember when this was the future... # | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
We really thought that my dad had won the pools and got us this massive house. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
It's not that we thought it was owned by the council. That was our house. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
At its peak in the mid-1970s, council housing provided homes | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
for more than a third of the British population... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
We lived there 50 years ago. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
..marking one of the greatest social revolutions in modern history. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
The idea of being able to put the light switch on... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Even now I should imagine there'd be thousands of people | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
give their eye teeth to have a place like this. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Council housing began with a bang at the start of the 20th century | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
and ended with a whimper 80 years later. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
So how and why did it begin? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Who was it for? Where did it go wrong? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
And who is to blame? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
The story of council housing begins here, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
currently one of London's most sought-after postcodes, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
colonised by artists and a media class seduced by its urban edginess. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:31 | |
But back in the 19th century, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Shoreditch was the epicentre of a post-industrial, over-populated metropolis | 0:03:35 | 0:03:41 | |
where poverty, vice, deprivation threatened to consume the entire city itself. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
The bulk of the population are a kind of floating group of people | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
involved as hawkers, costermongers, washer women, shoemakers - | 0:03:53 | 0:04:00 | |
people that the Victorians referred to as the residuum. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Those people who'd been left behind | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
by the tide of progress. The original Victorian solution | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
was that the problem of poverty was the problem of the poor themselves. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
But in the 1880s, there were riots in Trafalgar Square by the unemployed | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
and, camped out in Trafalgar Square, were dozens of homeless people. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
That was considered to be a national scandal. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Many a zealous politician, Fabian, clergy man and journalist | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
highlighted the plight of the huddled masses. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
In 1883, the Tory leader Lord Salisbury | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
proposed a Royal Commission for the housing of the working classes. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
The impetus for the first in a series of Housing Acts that signalled dramatic change. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
At the fag end of the 19th century, a radical idea emerged. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
What if the state could house the working classes? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
So here, in 1893 in Shoreditch, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
on the site of London's most notorious slum, work began on this. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
Britain's first ever council estate. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
In 1890, all local authorities were granted the option to build homes. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
The newly formed London County Council, the LCC, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
responded first with these 23 red-brick tenement blocks. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Inspired by the Arts and Crafts movement, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
each was individually designed under the supervision of architect Owen Fleming | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
of the Authority's "housing of the working classes" branch. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
The buildings were named after villages along the Thames | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and built on boulevards that extend from a central communal bandstand. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
Fashioned from the rubble of the dismantled slums themselves. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Do you feel like you get a sense of history when you're sat inside your flat? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Definitely you get a feel that | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
you're living somewhere that's got history to it. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
I think that's what's driven my passion. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
It was the start of something, I suppose you could say, revolutionary. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:26 | |
The Boundary Estate was officially opened in 1900 by the Prince of Wales. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:35 | |
Over a century later, it still provides social housing to thousands of council tenants. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
Although its tenement blocks echoed the social housing | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
of Victorian philanthropists, such as Peabody and Guinness, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
the idea of bringing housing into the public realm | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
would radically reshape Britain throughout the new century. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
You know, it's all very well renting a couple of rooms | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
in someone's property, but you haven't got that sense of... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
belonging. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
But for the slum dwellers whose homes it displaced, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
the Boundary didn't entirely succeed. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Of over 5,000 people who were evicted from the old slums. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Only 11 moved in to the new estate. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
Rents were too high, rules and regulations were too restrictive | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
so the remainder moved on to slums in near by East End neighbourhoods. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
Meanwhile, it was the hope of the LCC that the so-called respectable working classes | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
would prosper, move on, maybe to better neighbourhoods | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
and those below would move in and learn by example | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
how to live respectably in decent dwellings. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
At the beginning of the 20th century, the LCC continued to build homes in and around the capital. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:02 | |
But it took the carnage of global conflict to make council housing a national issue. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
During the final months of World War One, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Britain's natives were getting restless. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
The country was hit by strikes at home | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
while veterans were agitating for a better deal on their return. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
The day after Armistice, Lloyd George's coalition government | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
proposed a policy to pacify the masses. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
Sceptics dismissed it as a ruse to stave off revolt, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
but it was the outcome rather than the motivation that mattered. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
So this is the Housing and Town Planning Act of 1919. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
It says here, "An act to amend the enactment | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
"relating to the housing of the working classes." | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
And when you open it, you see Part One, it says, "It shall be the duty of every local authority | 0:09:00 | 0:09:07 | |
"to consider the needs of their area | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
"with respect to the provision of houses for the working classes." | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
This might not look like much, but this is a really revolutionary document. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
This made it national. This is the point | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
where all local authorities were given the green light. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
Lloyd George promised "Homes Fit For Heroes" | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
and it was now the duty of local authorities to deliver. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
The policy was expected to survive only until 1927 | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
while the fear of insurrection subsided, and private development revived. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
Meanwhile, Britain needed 700,000 homes fast. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
And the Government found inspiration in an idyllic housing scheme built at the start of the century. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
So, Reenie, tell me what is it that you like about your house in Letchworth? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
I just love it down here. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
I wouldn't want to move from here now. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-It's quiet. -Yeah, really lovely. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
For 70 of her 90 years, Reenie Williams has lived | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
in a quaint English country cottage in Letchworth, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
the world's first garden city. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
The brainchild of social reformer Ebenezer Howard, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Letchworth was a privately funded project. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
Its cottages were the vision of a sandal-wearing socialist | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
called Raymond Unwin, the founding father of the British council house. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
Raymond Unwin was an architect who became inspired | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
by the Arts and Crafts vision, particularly that of William Morris. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
Not only the decorative arts, but also Morris's venture | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
into socialism. Unwin started to explore the idea | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
of reformed working-class housing, not just in tenements, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
the way that they'd been built in London and the industrial cities, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
but the idea of individual houses with gardens. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Unwin committed himself to campaigning for decent homes for the working class. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
He became the most influential contributor to this document, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
the Tudor Walters Report. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Its recommendations underpinned the Housing Act of 1919. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
And Unwin's garden cottages became the prototype for Lloyd George's homes for heroes, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:52 | |
including those on the biggest housing estate in the world. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
Here in Becontree, 27,000 homes were built between 1921 and 1932 | 0:12:06 | 0:12:13 | |
to entice an urban working class away from London's overcrowded East End. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:19 | |
Visiting the estate now, where every home has a plasma screen in the living room, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:26 | |
and more than a few have an old one on the lawn, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
I can't help wondering how it felt for those survivors of the war | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
as they surveyed these streets on a damp afternoon in 1921. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:41 | |
Right, so here we are, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
one of the very first homes at Becontree. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
This looks like it's not been touched since 1919. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
This particular house was built just after 1919. I'd say 1921-22. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
When your family moved here, you had eight siblings from Bethnal Green. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Something like a downstairs toilet would have been quite a luxury. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Coming from the East End, it's fabulous. Front and back gardens. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-Yeah. -Running water. -Yeah. -Inside toilets, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-bathroom. -Yeah. -Fabulous. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
'Bill Jennings has breathed Becontree, man and boy. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
'His family moved here in 1954. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
'He served the estate as a housing officer for most of his working life.' | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Your family with eight kids - all those families coming from the East End, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
I bet they couldn't believe their luck. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
I think one old lady described it as heaven with the gates off. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Yeah, well probably , I can understand it. You can sense what it must have been like. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
It must have been massive compared to what they'd left. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
There was something practical and paternalistic in both the layer of these cottages | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
and the manner in which the working classes were expected to live in them. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
If you want to know why the council houses in Becontree and elsewhere at the time | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
are the way they are, it's all here in the Tudor Walters Report. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
You can feel the influence of Raymond Unwin in this. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Unwin believed, almost religiously, that every room had to have a specific purpose. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
He hated hallways, he hated landings, but most of all, he hated the parlour. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
He thought that the parlour was a room that they just used | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
perhaps for Christmas or for somebody's funeral tea. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Why not throw the space into a bigger general living room? | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
This is where you see the distinction between what an architect wanted | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
and what some of the residents wanted | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
because the aspirational working class really wanted parlours | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
because it gave them the status. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
It made them feel that they were on their way to becoming middle-class. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
There's something very precise and prescriptive about the Tudor Walters Report | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
and this becomes really apparent when you look at the scullery cos it's here you see | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
that slightly paternalistic attitude of Unwin and his acolytes, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
because they wanted the scullery to be the place where | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
the working classes cooked, prepared and ate food, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
whereas in the past, a lot of that stuff had been done in the living room. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
The scullery was being promoted to what we would now think of as a working kitchen. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
Everything had its place. There was the mangle, there was the copper. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
And there was the sink, which had to be 36 inches long | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
with a cupboard one side and a draining board the other, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and under the window so that housewives could look into the street | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
and keep an eye on their kids playing outside. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Becontree's council cottages prescribed a contemporary way of life with remarkable detail, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:33 | |
providing light, spacious homes for more than 100,000 residents. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
As with the Boundary Estate, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
the aim was to rehouse those dispossessed by slum clearance. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
But once again it was the cultivated working classes that moved in, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
families whose domestic conduct already chimed with the values demanded by their new landlords. | 0:15:53 | 0:16:00 | |
Monday, the rent man came and it was washday, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and Tuesday was ironing day. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Wednesday was a good clean through the house | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
and then Thursday was another washday. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Friday was shopping day. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
And Saturday, you cleaned the house thoroughly for Sunday, for the weekend. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
You took pride in where you lived. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I don't think that happens so much today. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
Each new tenant was issued with a handbook in which rules and regulations were listed. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:26 | |
Failure to comply could result in eviction. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
OK, what I've got here is the Becontree handbook. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
It shows you just how specific these rules and regulations were. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
Some of them are quite straightforward. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
It says the tenants should clean their windows at least once a week. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
Fair enough. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Tenants should have the chimneys swept once every year. That's OK. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
But there are other things that are really, really specific. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
The tenants shall use the back garden of the premises as a drying ground | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
but shall not otherwise expose to public view any washing or unsightly objects. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
In this day and age, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
if those rules and regulations were attempted to be applied, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
there'd be protest meetings and marches and all sorts of things. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
There wasn't anything like that in our days. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
People never dreamt of anything like that. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
This is the one I love. This is my favourite. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
It says you have to lay linoleum within one foot of any wall, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
so basically you have to leave a border all around the room. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
That was basically when they came to decorate | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
so that they didn't damage the lino. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
You had to have this wooden border all the way round. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
They also kept the privets cut. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
If they were cutting your privets and keeping your house clean, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
they expected, quid pro quo, you should keep your garden tidy. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
This all may sound very prescriptive, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
but I think it's as much for the landlords as the tenants | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
because it was all a new experience, a new experience for both of them. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
So I suppose they were really guessing because they had no idea, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
either of them, had no idea how this two-way relationship would work out. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
The paternalism that applied to the home | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
also extended into the social sphere of the residents. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
The LCC was keen to make Becontree a teetotal town. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
But the absence of pubs, as well as shops and markets, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
cast Becontree as a town without a heart. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
This was a dilemma that would plague local councils for decades. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Having given the working classes ideal homes, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
how would it replace the culture and the neighbourhood it had erased? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
# Ain't misbehavin' | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
# Saving my love for you... # | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
I was really looking forward to coming to Becontree, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
not just because it was the first big adventure in council housing | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
but because it was that first big estate | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
that was built on the back of the Homes For Heroes initiative. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Even though you look back and think some of those rules and regulations | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
in the handbooks were particularly strident, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
I don't think some of them would go amiss now when you see | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
clapped-out caravans and the broken TVs on people's lawns. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
What I can't bear is that awful pinched Fabian approach | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
of trying to evangelise about people's social life by not giving them a pub. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
But most of all, Becontree gave thousands and thousands of people, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
from the East End and beyond a home, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
and I think for that alone we should salute it. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Becontree's cottages came to exemplify council housing throughout Britain, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
as 170,000 homes were built in the wake of the Housing Act. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
But the individual cottage-style dwelling wasn't the only solution to the housing crisis. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
The working classes of Liverpool were being offered an alternative foreign vision. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
I've come a long way to show you this film from the '30s. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
It's a fantastic film about Liverpool | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
and why Liverpool was important within the story of council housing. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
And as you were all from major estates in Liverpool, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
I thought it would be great to see what you think about | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
the estates themselves and what memories you have of them. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
I'm introducing to you a film | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
dealing with one of the most vital social problems of our time - | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
housing. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
It was this man, Lancelot Keay, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
who introduced the modern flat into the lexicon if council housing. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
Flats were part of a foreign tradition. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
For the British, they conjured up memories of old squalid Victorian tenements, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
an image that Keay would help to consign to the past. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
St Andrew's Gardens is the most important | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
surviving example of Liverpool's very, very extensive programme | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
of integral flats, a series of very large estates | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
that ringed the city centre. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
It's the only city outside of London | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
that's really committed to building flats on this scale. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
This is due to the particular circumstances of Liverpool. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
You've got a dockside economy, which is casually based, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
and people need to be physically close to the docks every single day in order to get work. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
So putting everybody out into council estates on the edge of the city | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
is not really going to work for a city like Liverpool. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
The council's housing department looked abroad, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
transforming the image of the flat by importing some European modernism. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
It's borrowing very much from the so-called Horseshoe Estate in Britz in Berlin, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
but the English housing standards of the inter-war period | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
were a lot higher than those seen in other countries. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
The Tudor Walters report laid down minimum space standards, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
minimum standards of amenities that the English were, quite rightly, proud of. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
For the time, they're incredibly well-appointed, most importantly very spacious, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
and you've got ventilation on both sides of the building. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
You've got through ventilation which is a crucial sanitary aspect of these buildings. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
You've got the idea that any internal corridors are less healthy than | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
an access balcony which is open to the air, and that's the means of access to all of these flats, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
and the same with the stairwells. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
So they really couldn't be more different from the dark, dingy | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
and often very disease-ridden slums that you see down in the city centre. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
Liverpool slums were among the most densely populated in Britain. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
A public health risk as much as a housing issue. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
In 1930 the Ministry of Health, in Ramsay MacDonald's Labour government, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:02 | |
instituted a five-year slum clearance plan. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
VOICE OVER: 'Slums are gradually disappearing, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
'giving way to new development in and around the city. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
'Foundation stone, at the entrance to Gerard Gardens, was laid in 1935 | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
'by the Right Honourable Sir Kingsley Wood, then Minister of Health.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Government subsidies were available for the building of flats | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
on sites where slums had been raised to the ground. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
The epic scale of the estates that emerged astonished contemporaries | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
and enthralled their new inhabitants. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
My first memory of moving to the square | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
is actually being on the hand cart with my dad | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
taking the furniture down. We only lived about 400 yards away. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Going up all these stairs going, "Where'd all these stairs come from?" | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Someone once said it was like living in a castle, and it was. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
It was like a fortress. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
All our friends lived there, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
all the people you went to school with, but I think, because you knew all the kids, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
you also knew the parents and there was a lot of respect at that time. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
You always called the parents - | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
"Hello, Mrs Birchall" - you always called them by their surname. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
You knew them, but more importantly they knew you. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
That's a powerful commodity when you're a kid, the fact that everybody knows who you are. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
I think that's what maybe separate the gangs of kids from the squares where we lived, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
with the kids that hang around on street corners now who are totally anonymous. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
I think that sense of belonging doesn't exist any more | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
and I think that's the key. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
We all felt as though we belonged somewhere. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
I know from personal contact with the tenants who move into the new dwellings | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
how much they appreciate the amenities provided for them. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
I was six and we sat on the floor and ate fish and chips | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
the first day we arrived, which was lovely because it | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
was a lovely house and we ran into every room to see what there was. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
It was lovely being able to turn the tap on and there was hot and cold. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
The idea of being able to put the light switch on, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
you know, some lights, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
have your own bathroom. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
It was just heaven to us kids, you know? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Came in from the landing | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
and there was a long hallway which was red tiles. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
There were three bedrooms and a living room and a little scullery, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
which we called the back kitchen. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Everyone got washed in the kitchen, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
the little scullery, because there was no sink in the bathroom. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
You'd say, "Who's got the soap?" | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
And someone would say "Winnie's got it," that's my other sister. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
She'd be doing the step with it. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
The difference between some property and this house and its surroundings | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
you can see for yourself. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
The struggle to make both ends meet has ceased | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
and we're all perfectly happy and healthy. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
Over time the flats that remain have been redeveloped, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
they're now privately owned, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
but visiting today, you still get a sense | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
of what they must have meant | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
for those early council tenants. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
That house there was Mrs Bristow's. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-This bottom one on the very bottom, and then Fisher's. -Fisher, yeah. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
Of course... Where the chap has just come out of now... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Do you live in that corner house? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
We lived there 50 years ago and we're making a film. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
I was brought up there 50 years ago. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
-And me! -I wonder if it's just possible to just have a quick look? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
-Oh, would you, please? -Is there any way we can come up and have a look? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Are you sure? That's great. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
-What number is it? -It was 21B but it's not now. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Are you ready for this? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
-How long since you've been here, Tony? -50 years for me. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
43 years for me. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Oh I see, they've knocked into that bedroom and made the living room L-shaped. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
That's a much bigger kitchen and we had. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
This is massive to what we had, isn't it? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
The fireplace was there. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Radiogram in that alcove there. Oh! | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
-I can't believe this. -Are you all right, love? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Yeah, just... | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
A lot of happy memories here though. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Absolutely. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
You see where the little hut is now? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-Oh, yeah. -That was where the swings were. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
All the people along the landing, usually at the weekend, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
would be out scrubbing their socks right as far as you can see. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
The story of council housing in Liverpool isn't simply that of individual homes, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
but of vast estates of flats and houses | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
that formed a vision for the redevelopment for an entire city. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
Building was halted by World War Two, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
during which the impact of bomb damage made the housing problem more acute than ever. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
Council housing was becoming an essential social service, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
providing permanent homes, more of a right than a privilege. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
I'd love to know from you what you actually think council housing has done for a city like Liverpool. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:22 | |
I remember my mam's face when we first moved into that house. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
It was... I just felt overjoyed for her. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
There was me mam and dad, nine kids, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
11 people in a two-up-two-down cockroach infested slum. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
She wanted a brand new four-bedroomed corpy house, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
not too far from where we were living thank you very much, and we got it. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
And, I've got to say, like, my dad, he brought up nine kids. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:48 | |
We all worked, all paid taxes, we haven't been in prison or anything like that. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
Nine kids in a very poor working-class area. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
He went away to fight a war when he was a young man, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
he fought every day of that war. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
He came home and worked every hour God sends, you know, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
and of course he deserved a Home Fit For A Hero. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
He was a hero, you know. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
We were entitled to that council house, you know. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
It's not that we thought it was owned by the council, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
that was our house, so me mam and dad spent a fortune. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
They bought railings, you know. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
They spent a fortune on the garden, they decorated, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
they changed things around. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
That was their house and they looked after it, you know. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
It's interesting we're speaking now, it's just been announced that | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
you can only have short term tenure of council housing in the future. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
That's pernicious. Just imagine somebody coming along and saying to us | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
"I'm sorry, your economic circumstances have changed, your mum and dad have got to get out now." | 0:29:47 | 0:29:52 | |
We'd go... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
We'd be in there with baseball bats waiting for somebody to knock on the door. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
"Try it now, this is our house!" | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
You know. It's just... It's ludicrous. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
Just cos it's a council house, doesn't mean it's not yours. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
In 1945, following a Labour landslide, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
the Minister for Health, Nye Bevan, oversaw the creation of a welfare state, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
in which public housing would be as universal as health and education. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
A utopian vision of council housing for all, that led to the foundation of entirely new towns. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:33 | |
For me, this is where the story gets personal. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
While I was still an infant, my uncle, aunt, two cousins, and assorted pets, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
broke rank and left London for what seemed an impossibly modern town | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
beyond the capital's green belt. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
My uncle captured his family's new life here in Stevenage | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
in a series of cine films. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
For those of us that joined them on high days and holidays, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
it was a place that seemed as alien as abroad. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
When I used to come to Stevenage when I was a kid, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
it was funny coming to a place like this where | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
there didn't seem to be anyone on the street, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
apart from the town centre, but these cul-de-sacs seemed really quiet and suburban. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
When you came into the gardens, you realised everyone was in their gardens doing something. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
The utility room was fantastic because my uncle, he would always be filming, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
and that's the place where he edited these little films. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
which I didn't take much notice of at the time but now I realise it's a fantastic archive to discover. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
In 1946, Stevenage became the first of the nation's designated new towns, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:58 | |
built to relieve Britain's inner-city population problem. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Providing not just the homes, but also the jobs, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
that would bring a skilled urban working class, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
including my uncle, to pastures new. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
This was a place for skilled craftsmen | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
rather than unskilled dockers and whatever. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
This is the go-ahead superior working class, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
who get their nice house and garden and their good school | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
and their kids are encouraged to go on to university. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
For Nye Bevan, this was the realisation of his new society, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:37 | |
where all classes would live side-by-side. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
A world in which home-ownership was for an ever-diminishing minority | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
and council housing was for all. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
This was symbolised by the historic decision in 1949 | 0:32:47 | 0:32:53 | |
to remove the working classes clause from the Housing Act. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
The proles were no longer made the priority. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Now council housing was moving on | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
and an increasingly affluent clientele was moving in. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
In the early years, it's really about | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
getting buildings built because there's such a shortage. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
But through the '50s, I think these come to stand for much more than that. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
They are about giving people a better life. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
Hopes for that quality of life | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
were evident from the modern pedestrianised town centre, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
the first of its kind, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:31 | |
to plans for libraries, swimming baths, theatres and public art. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
Sisters, Sharon, Christina, and Laura, were born and raised in Stevenage. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
When their family migrated here from London's East End, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
they became the guinea pigs for Bevan's classless New Society. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
All our friends all lived in council houses. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
They weren't all the same, there was lots of different designs, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
but you never felt anybody was better than you. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
We were all the same and that was one of the beauties of it. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
I think I was in my late teenage years before I actually realised | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
that not everybody came from the same sort of environment as us, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
because everybody here did. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
I think it raised people's expectations coming to somewhere | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
where they had this high quality housing, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
it really did change the way people felt about themselves | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
and their environment, and, you know, a great step forward. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
This great leap forward prefigured a major rethink on the design of the home itself. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:33 | |
In 1959, a party of official-looking outsiders came to town. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
They had one question for the locals. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
How do we adapt the home for the affluent and flexible future? | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
The result reflected all that happened to the home, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
after a decade in which consumerism, not utopian socialism, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
had begun to emancipate the masses. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
The Parker Morris Report. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
It set out the minimum standards for a council house. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
Kids were staying on at school, they were doing exams, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
You had O and A-levels, they needed places to do their homework. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
It was about making space more flexible. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
That a bedroom shouldn't just be a bedroom, a living room just be a living room. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
It was about hobbies | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
and that people were doing more than just huddling round the gas fire. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
The report revealed that one household in three owned a car, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
two in three had a TV set, one in five had a refrigerator. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
You'd have had shops, music, and all of those new consumer durables as well. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
The whole music thing was very much part of it. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
We had a little record player and we used to put it on and be dancing round the living room to that. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
The Parker Morris report duly detailed how many electrical sockets | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
and how much storage was needed for the floor polishers, mixers, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
ironing machines, toasters and bread slicers | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
filling the homes of Britain's new affluent working class. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
I always remember Mum buying a Keymatic washing machine | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
that you could front load, it was real state-of-the-art. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
-It was, yeah. -It changed our lives. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
It felt like being part of a new revolutionary way of living, didn't it? That's what it felt like to me. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:23 | |
It sounds daft to say that but it really did feel part of a new generation. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
Stevenage was the first of over 20 designated new towns | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
built throughout Britain up until 1970, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
providing council homes for a population of over two million. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
But the new towns made little impact on the slums that still blighted Britain's cities | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
and politicians feared building yet more houses, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
encroaching further on the countryside. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
From 1954, following yet another slum clearance programme, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
this time by a Conservative government, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
urban council housing began to head skyward. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
A new wave of architects pounced on the opportunity to design towering high-rise buildings. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:16 | |
And this pair of influential theorists | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
came up with a concept of putting streets in the sky. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
We regard it as a demonstration of a more enjoyable way of living | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
in an old industrial part of a city. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
The street was a known, functioning element of the neighbourhood. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
That is, your first, as you were, contact with the world around you, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
as a child, was playing in the street. So, I think the idea of | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
the street in the sky was saying, "The street has a lot of very good characteristics, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
"can we take that into a high-rise solution?" | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -I hope you're Lynn. -I am, yes. -I'm Michael. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Oh, pleased to meet you. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
'In 1957, work began on Park Hill, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
'over 900 flats that delivered Sheffield's urban poor | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
'from 19th century back-to-backs. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
'Such estates may have a notorious reputation today | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
'but Park Hill's first settlers were thrilled with their futuristic high-rise homes.' | 0:38:26 | 0:38:33 | |
We saw our flat first through a letterbox and we were amazed. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
"Oh crikey, we've got a new house!" Well, a flat. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
We used to call it a house | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
because we weren't used to saying flat, of course. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
We thought it were absolutely marvellous. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
Previous estates such as Becontree had lacked the amenities | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
of the working-class neighbourhoods they replaced. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
But Park Hill's residents found themselves at the centre of a self-contained world. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:03 | |
I think it looks a lot better than estates, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
they're just houses, rows of houses. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
But here, it's modern. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
It were wonderment, you know, we had parks on us doorstep. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
All the shops were together in one place. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
From a hardware shop to a butcher's shop, wallpaper shop, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
there were ironmongers, there were a chips and fish shop. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
We used to have a bread van come, selling bread, milk. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
"Hey, mam, there's a bread man coming round in a van | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
"and he's selling bread, and there's a milkman and he's selling chickens!" | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
Pubs all together, if you know what I mean. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
My dad, he could go and get drunk on the inside without getting wet on the outside, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
because he could go into every one round the landing, down the lift, straight in. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
The best part about it is I come down six steps and I'm here. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
He'd never move off here. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
He always said, "No, we've got everything. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
"Hot water, heating, what more can a working man want?" | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
As close proximity living is concerned, in general I think it's an example to the country. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
Just be careful as you climb up on there. That's it. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
'Architects from all over the world came to marvel at Park Hill's modern facilities.' | 0:40:16 | 0:40:22 | |
-So do we go that way? -Yeah, this way. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
'They also found homes that boasted state of the art utilities.' | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
So Grenville, where are we, where have you brought me to today? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Well, now, we're in the ducts, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
which in modern-day language, it's a service tunnel. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
These pipes carried underfloor heating, hot water, gas | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
and a thoroughly modern waste-disposal system | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
that Park Hill residents remember with particular pride. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
To walk into a kitchen, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
it just looked like a normal sink | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
and then once you looked into the bowl, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
there were two plugs, a small one, and a big one. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
All your food preparation, your plate scrapings, everything all went into there. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
It'd take tin cans, it'd take bottles. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
In the middle, there were a plunger. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
You filled it up with water, with all your rubbish in and then you lifted that plunger. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
Whoosh, it went away. Came down through these pipes | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
and it used to suck everything out and down to the boiler house. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Most of your other rubbish, your bagged up rubbish, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
once a week, there were round about 15 to 20 tons, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
and that went down to the incinerator and that heats water, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
which is pumped round and comes round Park Hill as heating. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
So what do you think this place gave to people | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
that they didn't have before they moved to Park Hill? | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
To sum it up, there's an old lady who appeared on a film a couple of years ago | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
and she says, "We thought we'd died and gone to heaven." | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
You know, people loved Park Hill and they loved the way it were. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
You belonged. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Park Hill was a means of keeping the old neighbourhoods together in the city. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
The council gave priority to rehousing families, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
such as Lynn and her neighbours, from the streets it replaced. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
I really understand how you think the streets in those old neighbourhoods, you know, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
are here. The width of it feels like a street. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
You said landing, it doesn't feel like a landing to me, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
-it feels like a street. -Yeah. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
I can imagine over the years, your families and you lot have probably stood outside these doors, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
had chats like this and even like a night like tonight, you don't feel frightened. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
It's noisy and its busy, but there's no fear. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
I miss that noise. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
Completed in 1961, Park Hill marked the start of a high-rise boom | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
that became a defining feature of the council house cannon | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
from the late 1950s until the late 1960s. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
# Since I was very young I realised | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
# I never wanted to be human size... # | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
Lifts took homes higher than ever. New factory-style building methods | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
produced flats quickly and inexpensively | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
and government subsidies were offered for high-density developments. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
The taller the tower, the higher at the handout. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
# Tall, tall, tall I want to be tall, tall, tall... # | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
We think we have here a site big enough | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
so that when it's finished you'll be able to smell, feel and experience | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
the new life that's being offered through your full range of senses. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
In 1972, at the heart of a changing East End, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
the Smithsons, whose theories had inspired Park Hill, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
completed a sterling monument to the future. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Its first tenants, and the architect's son, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
hold Robin Hood Gardens in high regard. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
Well, I was three when I moved in here. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
I can still remember the smell of the block, the newness of the block. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
I absolutely love it. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
You had to keep outside clean. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Windows had to be done at least once a month, with fresh nettings up. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
-No, seriously, clean nettings! -Really? -Yeah. -That's fantastic. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
Cost a lot of money in nettings, but it always looked nice | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
and it always looked lovely from the outside. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
Today, the pride Sharon clearly feels for her home | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
seems at odds with the reputation and reality of Robin Hood Gardens. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:43 | |
The estate was completed just 11 years after Park Hill - | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
11 years in which the high rise experiment had collapsed. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
The decline began when many of the rapidly built tower blocks | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
that shot up from the mid-50s were exposed as cheap and shoddy. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:02 | |
Here in Birkenhead, these two blocks have lasted just 18 years. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
Now, they're going to be demolished because they're literally rotten. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
By 1967, the government had withdrawn its subsidy for tower-blocks. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:18 | |
And a year later, a gas explosion killed four people at Ronan Point in east London. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:25 | |
What I have done is to assemble a team of experts | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
to give me a preliminary report by tomorrow | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
on the factors that need to be taken into account. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
Subsequently, the expansive deck access estates, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
of which Park Hill was one of the first, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
were blamed for fostering crime and breeding antisocial behaviour. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
By the time Robin Hood Gardens appeared, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
it already seemed like a fossilised idea from an optimistic past. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:56 | |
For one reason or another, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
Robin Hood Lane became a kind of lightning rod, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
a critique of the perceived failure of social housing. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
It had a very negative effect on my parents' career | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
which was painful to them, because they'd built something which was clearly, in their view, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:16 | |
an improvement over the type of housing that their parents had lived in. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
There's no collective memory of those conditions. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
In the mid 1970s, it seemed that the homes that had been built | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
to replace the slums were becoming slums themselves. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
But this was part of a bigger picture, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
the downgrading of all council housing. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
No longer perceived to be a step up, but a step back. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
A rise and fall that is epitomised by the story of an estate | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
that was hailed as the town of the 21st century. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
# I'm the urban space man baby | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
# I've got speed | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
# I've got everything I need... # | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Thamesmead emerged from marshland in Woolwich in 1968. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
A mix of houses, maisonettes and high rise flats, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
it promised to learn from the mistakes of the past. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
One minister declared that it would be, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
"The decade's greatest achievement." | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
It opened with a fanfare, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
the spotlight falling on the first family to move in. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
I read that your wife said that moving here | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
was the greatest day of her life. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
I mean, obviously apart from marrying you! | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Oh, at the time, yes, of course it was, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
and I suppose until the day she died. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
We felt elated to be chosen | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
to be the first people on Thamesmead. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
'The Gooches had been on the housing list for all 14 years of their married life.' | 0:47:56 | 0:48:02 | |
Harry! Don't be so nosy, you old git, and get off there! | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:48:06 | 0:48:07 | |
'But when they moved from rooms in a 19th century house | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
'to a maisonette in a 21st century town, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
'the view from their new home was a building site. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
'The family were the sole inhabitants on an estate that was a long way from completion. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:25 | |
'They hoped that the world outside would soon be as perfect as that within.' | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
I feel like I'm going back to the future here, because this is what | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
-the future looked like in the 1960s in a 21st century town. -I suppose it did, really. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
We had two toilets, which we never had before. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
-There was three bedrooms upstairs, plus a study. -Plus a study? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
You see, that's so grand. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
The lounge and the kitchen were something we'd only ever dreamed of. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:54 | |
Everything's fitted. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
You've got your washing machine, tumble-drier, your gas stove. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
This was the place where you had something to eat, | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
and then you could come into the lounge. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
You know, you've got a really, really big lounge. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
that's the difference between that and unfortunately, where we lived in Peckham. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
You can see how things have changed, because it's kind of open plan now. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
-You've got this door. Presumably you can pull this. Can I pull it? -Yeah, by all means, yeah. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:22 | |
-I feel like I'm going to pull the whole of Thamesmead down by pulling this! -No! | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
If I was a kid, I'd have had a field day with this. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
We didn't know of anybody that had got a house or a maisonette like we had. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
-I think this is my favourite bit. -It's mine too! | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
Even now, I should imagine there'd be thousands of people give their high teeth to have a place like this. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:44 | |
Despite the view outside, the Goochs were proud of their new home. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
And when they were eventually joined by neighbours, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
they, too, felt privileged to be making the step up to council housing. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
There was seven of us in a two-bedroomed flat in Hackney. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
I was only six and my mum went and dropped me round my auntie's. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
Then when they come and got me, they brought me here, to Thamesmead. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
I walked in the house, oh my God! It was so big, it was so, so big. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
And then my dad turned round and said, this is our new house. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
Everything was so new and we thought we was really rich, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:34 | |
that me dad had won the pools and got us this massive house. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
Tracey's family typify that first generation of council tenants everywhere. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:45 | |
They felt privileged to be swapping their archaic, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
over-crowded rented rooms for modern, spacious homes. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:54 | |
Once past the council's notoriously strict vetting procedure, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
they were offered a home for life, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
their sons and daughters given priority on Thamesmead's waiting list, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
so successive generations could make this their home. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
My dad had to have references from his work | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
to get even a look-in on Thamesmead. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
It seemed like when we moved in, on that week, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
everybody moved in that week. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
It was like, right, this is a new place, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
everyone's going to be moved in all together. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
'The optimism of Thamesmead's first inhabitants | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
'is captured in a remarkable series of photographs.' | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
Right, everyone, I've called you here today because George here | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
took some fantastic photographs in the '70s of everyone | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
that went to school in Thamesmead, and I think the photographs tell their own story, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:49 | |
not just about Thamesmead but about everyone here and everyone that's in the photographs. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
George Plemper arrived in Thamesmead in the summer of 1976. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:02 | |
He became a chemistry teacher at the local school and, in his spare time, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
he began to document life within this new urban landscape. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
-Is that George? -CHEERING | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
Everything I've heard about Thamesmead over the last 30 or 40 years, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
it's had such bad press, but when you look at those photographs, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
there's a real joy and a confidence within the faces of those kids. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
Thamesmead was made up of people from the East End, from south London. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
There was people from Nigeria, Biafra. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
And I do think that there was a sense of hope and expectation | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
about what the future was going to hold for them. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Is that Tracey? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
-CHEERING -Tracey! -I don't know her! | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
I was a right mess! | 0:52:49 | 0:52:50 | |
That cardigan as well that I've got on, was two-years-old, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
cos I wore it one year and then when another photo come up, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
I still had it on! | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
That's me! | 0:53:04 | 0:53:05 | |
There was an optimism for a bright new future, there was an optimism. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
'For my dad, it meant going to somewhere which was better for us.' | 0:53:12 | 0:53:18 | |
-Amazing. -So you're the same year as my brother, Paul. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
We were privileged, I think we was. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
Oh, this is a great picture. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
'It was the efforts and attitude of those early settlers that made Thamesmead work.' | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
But in time, a considerably short time, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
everything changed for the 21st century town | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
and for council housing in general. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
I remember by the end of the 1970s, Thamesmead had become a dirty word. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
If you heard someone had moved there, it was like they'd been | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
dispatched to some distant gulag of the outer limits of south-east London. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:58 | |
It had become shorthand for council housing | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
and council housing had become characterised by | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
antisocial behaviour, crime and dysfunctional families. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
It was not only ignorant outsiders that harboured this view. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
Your house here is lovely. Everything's organised and | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
outside, it seems like it's a completely different experience. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
-Yeah. -I just wondered how you feel about that divide. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
If you wander round Thamesmead, it is an absolute hole. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:30 | |
Before we moved here, we ticked all the boxes. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
I had a job, I could pay my way and we were told | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
quite categorically that everybody on Thamesmead would have to pay. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
Fortunately or unfortunately, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
they decided that their policy was no longer viable. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
They had to change the rules and had people that were on subsistence, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:57 | |
not that there's anything wrong with people on subsistence. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
But that changed everything. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
By the mid-1970s, more than a third of the British population lived in council housing. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:12 | |
But at the moment it reached its peak, its image was at its worst. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
It needed reviving or a rethink. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
Instead it got the death sentence. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
We've set in hand the sale of council houses and flats. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
We have to move this country in a new direction, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
to create a wholly new attitude of mind. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
When Margaret Thatcher swept to power in 1979, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
the building of council estates came to an abrupt halt. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
In 1980, she introduced a right-to-buy scheme, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
that offered a generous discounts to established tenants. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
A million families purchased their homes in that first decade alone. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
But before Thatcher dealt the fatal blow, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
the council housing system had begun to implode, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
failing to serve the local people on the housing list. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
And it wasn't the Tories who were to blame for that. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:11 | |
In 1977, it was a Labour government that made a symbolic and I think fatal change to the Housing Act. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:29 | |
30 years earlier, it removed the working-class clause, making council housing available to all. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:36 | |
Now, it reversed that and the homeless became the priority. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
This idea of housing based on need was open to all sorts of interpretation and abuse. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:49 | |
This was the latest in a series of changes that jettisoned those policies | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
that had previously favoured the long-standing locals waiting to be housed. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
Strict vetting procedures, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
once a defining feature of estates from Becontree to Park Hill, lapsed. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
Initiatives such as Thamesmead's sons and daughters scheme | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
were abandoned, deemed to be discriminatory. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
Estates such as the Heygate, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
which for me was once a snapshot of a promising future, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
became dogged by sub-letting and itinerant tenants. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
By the 1980s, it seemed the noble motivation behind council housing | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
and the achievements of its formative years | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
were all but forgotten. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
But even now, state housing remains on the political agenda. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
A new coalition government has introduced plans | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
for a further overhaul of the council housing that still exists. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
It's new residents will be expected to reapply for their tenancy | 0:58:00 | 0:58:06 | |
every two years and move on if their circumstances improve. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
This could destroy the one thing that consistently made it a success | 0:58:11 | 0:58:16 | |
in the face of all that threatened to turn it into a failure. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
This idea of council housing as temporary is nothing new. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
It's what the LCC hoped when it created the Boundary over 100 years ago. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:31 | |
But council housing was soon providing permanent homes | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
and it was that sense of permanence that gave so many British people, | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
not least of all those people I've met in this film, | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
a reason to have an investment in their homes, in their estates, in their neighbourhoods. | 0:58:42 | 0:58:48 | |
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