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'It's 1612 and a woman is in a courtroom. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
'She's accused of killing three men through witchcraft. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
'She's presented with a confession that she denies.' | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
But then a girl is brought to testify against her. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
The girl bursts into tears as the woman screams at her desperately. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
And the woman is removed back to the dungeons. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
'Once the girl has her audience, she jumps up onto a table, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
'and calmly denounces the woman as a witch. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
'She's the woman's own daughter, and she's nine years old.' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
Jennet Device was a key witness in a trial | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
that would lead to the execution of ten people, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
including all members of her own family. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
But then 20 years later, Jennet herself would come to be | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
standing in the dock, charged with the same offence. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
'Jennet, a nine year old beggar, was part of a bigger story. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
'of justices, clerics and physicians. even the King himself. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
'Someone who should have been lost to history has lived on, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
'because of her chilling role | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
'in one of the most disturbing witch trials on record. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
'This is a story about fear, politics | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
'and religion, science and magic.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
But, to me, as a poet, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
it's also about words and stories, and just how powerful they can be. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
The two trials that shaped the life of this little girl | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
are emblematic of a much bigger story - | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
the transition between | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
a pre-modern world and our supposed age of reason. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
And yet our fear of evil has never really gone away. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
Neither, some say, has evil itself. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
'Fear of evil was endemic in England 400 years ago, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
'when King James I was on the throne. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
'James was living in fear of Catholic rebellion | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
'in the aftermath of the gunpowder plot. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
'Recently arrived from Scotland, he was on the throne in a strange land. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
'And some parts of his new kingdom were particularly troubling.' | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
Lancashire was a long way from London in many ways. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Described by somebody at the time as "a dark corner of the land", | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
it had a reputation for disobedience - | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
full of troublemakers and subversives. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
'And this area, not far from where I live, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
'dominated by the strange brooding presence of Pendle Hill, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
'was almost beyond the back of beyond. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
'Today it's established an odd niche by trading on its dark past. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:08 | |
'In 1612 the nine-year-old Jennet Device | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
'lived in obscurity at her grandmother's house, Malkin Tower.' | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
SHEEP BLEAT | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Malkin Tower. It sounds grand, but it really wasn't. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
Malkin was actually a 17th century word meaning "slattern" or "slut" | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
and it was still being used in these parts in the 20th century. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
The house was also, and even less grandly, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
referred to as Mocking Tower, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
and according to some people, and not to put too fine a point on it, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
"mocking" is a local word for "shit". | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
'Nobody knows for sure where the house would have stood, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
'but recent research suggests it may have been on THIS site. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Jennet and her family survived mainly by begging, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
and by doing odd jobs for neighbours. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
But the family did have one other source of income, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
and I suppose a kind of power. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Jennet's grandmother was well-known locally as a Cunning Woman. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
And everyone knew her as Old Demdike. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
The role of the Cunning Woman is an incredibly valuable one, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
especially for poor people who don't have recourse say to doctors. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
And there's all sorts of modern roles rolled up into one, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
social worker and policewoman, and doctor - | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
all those things that give people | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
a kind of security about their otherwise anxious lives. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
But it's rather an ambiguous role because to be a Cunning Woman | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
the authorities would call it witchcraft really. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
So Cunning Women can get into trouble with the law | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
if they fall out with their clients. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
To Jennet and her family, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
it was a fact of life that a person might have the power to heal | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
or harm through the use of charms, or spells. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
To them it wasn't mumbo-jumbo. It was real. It happened. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
Witches are people who do bad things, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Cunning Women are people who do good things. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Cunning Women cure you and find your lost stuff - | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
witches steal stuff from you and make you sick or kill you. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
'At Malkin Tower, Jennet lived with her grandmother, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
'her mother Elizabeth, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
'and her elder sister and brother, Alizon and James. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
'There were no adult men.' | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Elizabeth's husband had died 11 years earlier | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
and nine-year-old Jennet wasn't his child. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
She grew up knowing that she was the runt of the litter | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
and the bastard daughter of the house. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
I think that would have made her feel isolated and different. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Even cursed. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
'In the later investigations, it became clear | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
'that Jennet's world was populated by demons. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
'Jennet's grandmother was not the only | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
'Cunning Woman in the neighbourhood. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
'Old Chattox, the head of a nearby household, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
'was a rival for her business, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
'and the Devices believed her to be a witch. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
'For some years, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
'Elizabeth's husband had been making payments of oatmeal to Chattox. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
'The year the payment was not made, he died.' | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
At most times in history, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
such family squabbles would have passed by unnoticed. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
But these weren't usual times. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
England around 1600 is a country in the grip of conversion experience. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Officially it had turned Protestant | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
about 40 years before, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
but it had taken two generations for that really to sink in. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
So round about 1600 a lot of the English are in the grip | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
of enthusiastic Protestantism for the first time. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
'And now that England was Protestant, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
'Catholics were increasingly feared as seditious and evil.' | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
The idea that there are people out in Lancashire | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
who are adhering to old religious ways | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
can be transferred quite easily to the idea that these people | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
are actually dangerous dissenters who need to be suppressed. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
To devout English Protestants, the Bible brackets idolaters, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
heathens, sorcerers together. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
So Catholicism, which is itself to Protestants a demonic religion, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
can come to look very closely related to witchcraft. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
These were nervy, apprehensive times at court and throughout the country. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:57 | |
And in that climate of fear, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
it didn't take much to arouse suspicion. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
On March 18th 1612, Jennet's teenage sister, Alizon Device, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
was out and about, walking down a lane. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
Along the way, she met a pedlar. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
And being a beggar, she asked the pedlar for some pins, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
but he wouldn't open his pack and he walked on. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
For Alizon, this would have been an everyday experience. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
Probably several times a week, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
people would brush past her, or ignore her. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
And she probably responded to their rudeness by cursing them. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
'On March 18th, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
'she cursed the pedlar. And the curse seemed to work | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
'because he fell to the floor, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
'and unable to speak or move he was eventually carried to a local inn.' | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
And Alizon was terrified because she knew she had bewitched him. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
She rushed to his bedside and begged for his forgiveness. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
'From the legal records, we've a very detailed description | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
'of the pedlar's condition following his collapse.' | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
"His head is drawn awry, his eyes and face deformed, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
"his speech not well to be understood, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
"his arms lame, especially the left side." What would you say | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
that was a description of? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
I think there's very little doubt that those symptoms | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
reflect the fact that he has had a stroke. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
The face being awry, the left arm not working, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I mean something coming on that suddenly really can only be a stroke. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
Alizon seemed convinced that she had caused this stroke | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
through bewitching him, and blamed herself and agonised over it. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
Is there any logic in that? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
From the description, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
it does sound as though the two events were significantly linked. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Looking at it as a scientist, yes, the curse, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
causing him to become very upset, and to put the blood pressure up, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
and to cause him to have a stroke. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Exactly the same situation these days could happen | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
as a result of road rage, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
or an argument, or some devastating piece of medical information | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
being given to somebody, can result in people having a stroke. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
What's so striking for me is that Alizon was in no doubt that | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
she'd nearly killed a man and perhaps she really had. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
It was her fear and her own contrition that would directly lead | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
to her downfall and that of all her family as well. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
'The consequences of Alizon's curse spiralled out of control | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
'when the pedlar's outraged son | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
'reported the incident to the ambitious local magistrate, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
'Roger Nowell.' | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
England has Justices of the Peace dotted all over the place | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and they're the men who dispense the law. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Some of them aren't very good, some of them are very lazy, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
some of them are EXTREMELY zealous indeed. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Roger Nowell is one of those zealous types. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
He's ambitious, he's a Protestant, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and he sees that actually his route to success in his career is to | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
go out and identify non-conformists, that could be witches | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
or it could be Catholics, and bring them to justice. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
'Roger Nowell began investigating. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
He interviewed Alizon Device who, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
'in her need to unburden herself, confessed to everything. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
'But she also accused her neighbour, Chattox, of bewitching | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
'and killing four people, and of "making clay figures".' | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Alizon seems to have been seriously spooked | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
by what she'd done to the pedlar. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
I think it's likely that her little sister Jennet | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
would have been pretty freaked out by it too. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
'Alizon's statement escalated the investigation. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
'Chattox and her daughter were very ready to point the finger back | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
'at the Device family, and accused Granny Demdike of witchcraft too. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
'Nowell realised that he was no longer investigating | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
'a single incident, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
'but was now heading up a major witch-hunt | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
'rooting the evil out of Pendle. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
'On April 2nd, Nowell made his first arrests. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
'Jennet's sister and granny, as well as her neighbours Chattox and Anne | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
'were all shipped off to distant Lancaster Castle to await trial. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
'Roger Nowell was confident | 0:12:36 | 0:12:37 | |
'that these arrests would please the King. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
Just a year before the arrests in Pendle, the King James Bible | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
'was published and laid out in stark words, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
'"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
'I've come here to Oxford in search of a book. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
'Not the King James Bible, but a book James wrote himself.' | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
James I has a reputation as an avid witch-hunter, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
and participates personally in trials up in North Berwick, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and he believes that witches are trying to kill him. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
In fact that the witches tried to sink the boat | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
that he was bringing his wife, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Anne of Denmark, back on their honeymoon. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
He writes a slim, exciting book called Daemonologie, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
which is unique among heads of state, in being a sole-authored work | 0:13:32 | 0:13:39 | |
upon the nature of hell and what to do about it. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
And it's pretty popular. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
It's readable, it's concise, it's learned, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
it's actually a rather clever piece of work | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
and it's a mandate to the British to hunt witches. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
This is an original, 1597 edition of James' Daemonologie, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
written, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
it says here at the beginning, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
because of, "The fearful abounding at this time in this country, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
"of these detestable slaves of the Devil, the Witches or enchanters." | 0:14:12 | 0:14:19 | |
James is very much a product of the Presbyterian Kirk in Scotland. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
Presbyterian ministers who brought James up as Presbyterian | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
in a bid to counteract the influence of his Catholic mother, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
told him stories all day about the power of the Devil. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
They deliberately scare him and it works. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
You can scare a child very easily. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
They talk him into feeling that he's surrounded by witches. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
The Daemonologie might seem a bit like | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
the ramblings of a paranoid man. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
But, as the saying goes, just because you're paranoid, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
it doesn't mean that they're not out to get you. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
'The religious tensions in England had reached boiling point | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
'just seven years earlier, when the King | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
'and his entire Parliament had very nearly been blown up by Guy Fawkes | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
'and his team of Catholic terrorists in the failed Gunpowder Plot. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
'And although Fawkes had been captured, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
'some of the conspirators were still at large.' | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
It's perfectly reasonable for an early modern monarch | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
to be paranoid about people trying to kill them. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
And James is one of those monarchs there's no shortage | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
of potential conspiracies out there. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
He's got a dad who's been strangled after an attempt to blow him up, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
a mother whose head has been hacked off in an English prison, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
and there have been at least two attempts | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
to kidnap him, maybe one to murder him. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
No wonder he's scared. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
And shortly after he arrives in England, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
some of his Catholic subjects try to blow him to smithereens | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
along with the rest of Parliament. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
He's a king who's exceptionally nervous of conspiracy. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
The plotters who were caught were trying to flee to safety. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
And the place where they expected to find it was Lancashire. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
'In March 1612, local JPs had received an order | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
'from London that they were to compile a report of all those | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
'who refused to take communion in church, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
'in an effort to root out the Lancashire Catholics. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
'It was a crude, but hopefully effective, loyalty test.' | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
"All those that do not come to the church and there communicate | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
"must be presented and further proceeded against. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
"Fail not herein at your peril." And here, look, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
one of the order's signatories was Roger Nowell. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
There's no question about it, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
on Good Friday 1612, every loyal subject should have been in church. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
Instead, at Malkin Tower, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Jennet's mother threw a party | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
and to feed the guests, her brother stole a sheep. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
'Of course, there would be friends absent from the gathering. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
'Alizon and Granny Demdike, along with the neighbours, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
'were now awaiting trial in Lancaster Castle.' | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
What happened in that house on that day would become | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
the subject of intense scrutiny over the following months. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
There were guests at Malkin Tower. Was it an Easter party? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Just friends round for lunch? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Was it a solidarity meeting of those relatives of the prisoners | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
held in Lancaster Castle? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Or was it a gathering of witches? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
'The local constable hears a whisper that there's a meeting of witches | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
'at Malkin Tower, and arrives suddenly at the door with his men.' | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
'Afterwards, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
'with echoes of the recent Gunpowder Plot, they would be accused | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
'of conspiring to blow up Lancaster Castle, and to murder its gaoler.' | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
Everyone present was arrested, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
but the family at Malkin Tower did not come quietly. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
They told the constable that there had been more people at the party | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
who had left already, "You'll never guess who you just missed." | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
'And so the others implicated were also arrested. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
'They were all accused of plotting to kill a man by witchcraft.' | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
By the time he'd finished, Nowell had sent another eight people | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
to join the original four in Lancaster Castle. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
It was all going so much better than he could've hoped. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
'Unlike some of the people detained, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
'Jennet Device was definitely at Malkin Tower | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
'on Good Friday 1612, but she wasn't taken away with the others. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:01 | |
'The people rounded up at the party | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
'were from the lowest possible walks of life. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
'But the others arrested were different. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
'Alice Nutter was from a respectable, land-owning family | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
'and was arrested with her sister in law, her nephew and a friend. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
'The Nutters are still in the area. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
'Colin Nutter lives here, and many other relatives live nearby. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
'and always have.' | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Colin, as a Yorkshireman, I think I'm right in saying | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
that there aren't many Nutters in Yorkshire | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-but there quite a few here, aren't there? -Oh, yes. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
Oh, yes, there's quite a lot of them here. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
How did somebody like Alice Nutter | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
come to be caught up in the witch trials? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
I think she was in the wrong place at the wrong time, Alice Nutter. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
What would Roger Nowell's motivation have been? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
The Nutters at that point were a strong Catholic family. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
And, er, I think he would curry favour with the King | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
and the powers that be if he's catching Catholics as well, you see? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
She had two relatives who were priests, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
who were hung drawn and quartered - | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
one of them in Tyburn and one in Lancaster. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
So as far as Nowell was concerned, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
-she was just another troublemaking Catholic then? -Exactly. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
And she'd have been used as a pawn for his own ends really. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
It seems pretty unlikely to me that Alice Nutter | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
and her friends spent Good Friday | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
eating stolen mutton at "shit towers" with the local beggars, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
but whatever the truth they were rounded up, arrested | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
and taken to Lancaster Castle. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
'Lancaster Castle | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
'has remained a working prison right up until Spring of 2011. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
'This is still known as The Witches Tower.' | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
The castle is huge | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
but the cell that they were held in wasn't. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Inside it were all of Jennet's family - | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
her gran, her mother, her brother, her sister, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
plus all the neighbours - Chattox, Anne, Isobel Robey, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
Margaret Pearson, Alice Nutter, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
John and Jane Bulcock and Katherine Hewitt - | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
plus eight other prisoners | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
in a space 20' by 12'. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
20 people in all. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
'As for Jennet, we don't know where she spent the four months | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
'that her family were imprisoned. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
'It's possible that she lived under the protection of Roger Nowell, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
'as she was about to become crucial to the case he was building. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
'The magistrate would have been well aware of | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
'the King's thoughts on witch-hunting.' | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
'Right at the end of his Daemonologie | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
'King James wrote something that became especially relevant | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
'for the case of the Pendle Witches.' | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
And here it is. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
Here's what the King says. "In my opinion, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
"barnes or wives or never so diffamed persons..." | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
That's children, women and liars all lumped in together. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:29 | |
"..may of our law serve for sufficient witnesses and proofes | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
"in matters of high treason against God." | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
That's telling Nowell, and other magistrates in the country, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
two really important things. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
That witchcraft is treason | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
not just against the King but, by extension, also against God himself. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
And secondly, he's saying the law | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
should allow children to testify in court. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
'And it wasn't just Nowell | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
'who was influenced by King James's Daemonologie. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
'It would influence the professional justice system.' | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Everything we know about this whole story comes from one book | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
The Wonderful Discoverie of Witches in the Countie of Lancaster. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
It was written by one Thomas Potts, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
while serving as clerk to court when the prisoners went on trial | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
in 1612. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
'He kept his notes of the trial | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
'and wrote them all up to demonstrate the rigour | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
'of the trial proceedings. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
'He also dedicated the book to his patron, Thomas Knyvet. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
'Knyvet was the man who arrested Guy Fawkes. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
'Potts was making a clear connection for the reader between witches | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
'and Catholics as traitors or terrorists.' | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
The whole book is an exercise in political brown-nosing. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
Nonetheless, it represents an extraordinarily detailed account | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
of a 17th century witch trial. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
LOW MURMUR OF VOICES | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
'In the courtroom of Lancaster Castle, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
'on the 18th August 1612, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
'the trial of the Pendle Witches began. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
'The room is still a working court. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
'In 1612 it wouldn't have looked much like this.' | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Nonetheless there was a judge - in fact two judges in this case - | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
a jury, witnesses, and the defendants. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:41 | |
And all the while, Thomas Potts was scribbling the verbatim notes | 0:24:41 | 0:24:47 | |
which would become his best-selling book. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
The outcome of the trial was far from being a foregone conclusion. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
Probably less than half of accused witches actually are convicted | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
and executed. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
And the set of records that we have, which are very reliable | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
for this, suggest that it's actually more like a 75% acquittal rate. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
'Whatever the odds, for Jennet's sister | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
'whose curse had started the whole affair, things didn't look good.' | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
Poor Alizon Device. She didn't even want to defend herself. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
She was completely convinced of her own guilt. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Her words had caused the pedlar to collapse, and that terrified her. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:33 | |
She was asked in court if, through her magic powers, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
she could restore the pedlar to his health and strength, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
but regretfully she said that she couldn't. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
She did say though, and others agreed with her, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
that her grandmother would have been able to help him. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
'But in the four months of waiting for the trial to begin, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
'Granny Demdike had died in the tiny, filthy cell.' | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
Thomas Potts had some sympathy for Alizon. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
He liked his witches desperate and contrite. Her mother was neither | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
and Potts was vile about her. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
'He wrote that, "This odious witch was branded with a preposterous | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
'"mark in nature, which was her left eye standing lower than the other, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
'"the one looking down, the other looking up, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
'"so strangely deformed as the best that were present | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
'"did affirm that they had not often seen the like."' | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
400 years ago it wasn't common | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
for a witness to be brought to testify in the courtroom itself. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
But on 18th August 1612, a star witness | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
was being prepared to take the stand. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
'Elizabeth Device was furious and protested her innocence. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
'But then her nine-year-old daughter, Jennet, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
'was brought to testify against her. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
'Elizabeth was distraught. She yelled at her desperately. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
'Jennet burst into tears. She was only a little girl after all | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
'before turning to the judge, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
'and asking that her mother be taken away before she'd speak.' | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
'Once Elizabeth had been silenced, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
'and Jennet had her audience, she jumped up onto a table, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
'and calmly denounced her own mother as a witch.' | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
MURMUR OF VOICES | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
When I was a probation officer, many moons ago, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
I spent a lot of time sitting in the crown courts of Lancashire, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
lot of them old and intimidating cock-pits like this. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
And some of the cases involved evidence from children. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
And, of course, the legal system these days | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
is very sensitive in its handling of young people. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
We'll never know why Jennet Device said what she said, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
but, standing on the table, centre-stage in the middle of this | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
moral and political and legal drama, I can't help think | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
that she was reciting her lines. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
My mother is a witch, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
and that I know to be true. I have seen her spirit | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
in the likeness of a brown dog, which she called Ball. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
The dog did ask what she would have him do, and she answered | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
that she would have him help her to kill John Robinson of Barley. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
James Robinson. Henry Mitton. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
DOG PANTS | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Jennet went on to describe the meeting at Malkin Tower | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
on Good Friday. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
At 12 noon, about 20 people came to our house. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
My mother told me that they were all witches. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
She described the food they ate, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
and named six people she'd seen there, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
whose names she knew as well as her mother and brother. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
There's a kind of a paradox surrounding | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
the evidence of children in the courtroom. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
On the one hand, they're seen as unreliable because they're so young. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:05 | |
But on the other hand, they're seen as pure witnesses of the truth. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
And so that in somebody like Jennet Device, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
there's something horrific about exploiting a child who's so young, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
and I think people may have felt that at the time too. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
But at the same time, she could well be the means to cracking open | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
this secret ring of witchcraft. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
It wasn't just Jennet who testified against Elizabeth. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
Her son James denounced her too. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
'He said that three skulls had been robbed | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
'from graves at the New Church in Pendle, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
'and four of the teeth then kept at Malkin Tower. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
'Four teeth were then presented in court, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
'which had been found at Malkin Tower by the constable, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
'alongside a clay figure, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
'all buried together in the ground.' | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
But giving evidence against his mother wouldn't help him | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
because Jennet turned on her own brother too. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
'Jennet said that James had been a witch for three years. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
'She'd seen his "spirit" kill three people. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
'She then went on to recite charms | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
'she said she'd heard her brother use.' | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
Upon Good Friday, I will fast while I may. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
A cross of blue, and another of red. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
As good Lord was to the rood. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Gabriel laid him down to sleep upon the ground... | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
What we've got here | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
is a series of half-understood, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
maybe quarter-understood, recollections of prayers, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
practices, rites of popular Catholicism, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
and a bit of a play text... | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
..That I can neither sleep nor wake. Rise up Gabriel that I may... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
..all swirled together, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
into something that would sound impressive to a listener, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
as a healing charm. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
..Sweet Jesus, our Lord, amen. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Potts was impressed by Jennet's testimony. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
In fact, he seemed to relish her calm, clear and chilling account. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
"Although she were but very young, yet it was wonderful to the court, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
"with what modesty, government, and understanding | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
"she delivered this evidence against the prisoner at the bar, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
"being her own natural brother." | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
An adult would know that what they were saying | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
was likely to lead to mum and grandma being hanged. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
I don't think Jennet did really know in the way an adult would know. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
I think she only knew it intellectually, not emotionally. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
And that's why, I think, her mother screams at her in the way she does. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
I think her mother is desperately trying | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
at least to make her realise what she's done. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
She's clearly a rather odd child. She's extremely articulate. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
She clearly doesn't like her family. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
She's a bit different from the others. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
We don't know who her father was. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
She's the only illegitimate child | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
and, clearly, either she's really terrified of the magistrates | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
and determined to save herself at all costs, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
or, more probably, it gives her a chance | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
for all sorts of concealed resentments and animosities | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
against her family to explode lethally. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
We need to imagine that she believes in the reality of witchcraft, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
and that these people really are witches, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
and that she seeks to distance herself from them. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Of course she's also been put under a great deal of pressure. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
It may be direct pressure. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
It may just be the atmospheric pressure of the courtroom, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
the tension of all these men around her, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
telling her that, in fact, the witchcraft is taking place, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
and that she's the lynchpin in punishing it. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
It wasn't just her own family Jennet was prepared to denounce as witches. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
'Alice Nutter and her friends were more well-to-do, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
'and the judge was more demanding of evidence against them. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:59 | |
'He arranged identity parades, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
'mixing them in with other prisoners from the castle. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
'One by one, Jennet picked them out.' | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
You were there on Good Friday. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
You had on the prettiest dress. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
You ate the mutton. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
You were sitting right by me. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
'In an attempt to catch her out, the judge then asked, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
'"Did you see Johanna Style?" | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
-'A made-up name.' -No, sir. I never heard of her. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
Most of the early modern witch-hunters rely on the Bible, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
and, or, the texts by the great continental demonologists | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
as their texts. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
The Lancashire witch trials are really unusual | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
in that they ignore these pretty well completely, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
and fasten on the King's own book, King James's Daemonologie. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
In a way, that's extremely rare. They're plainly ticking boxes. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
King James says witches use body parts for evil magic. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Body parts are found at the Lancashire witches' property. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
They make clay images - | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
whoops, that's what Lancashire witches are supposed to be doing. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Children are extremely useful as witnesses. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Wow! We suddenly have Jennet. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
What these people are doing is looking upwards to the monarch | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
as their fount of wisdom. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
'The evidence against the prisoners had stacked up perfectly.' | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
We tend to assume that witchcraft was just one big delusion, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
and therefore that the witches | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
who were convicted were, in fact, innocent. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
But accused witches believed in witchcraft too, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
and I think it's improbable to think | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
that witches never tried to use magic in order to kill somebody. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
Well, today we prosecute people and punish them | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
if they attempt a crime but are unsuccessful. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
So, the witches of 1612, by that measure, were they innocent? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
By the end of the two-day trial, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
the jury had decided that all of Jennet's family, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
and most of her neighbours, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
were guilty of causing death or harm by witchcraft. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
Ten people were sentenced to hang | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
'Elizabeth Device, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
'Alison Device, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
'James Device, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
'Anne Whittle, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
'Anne Redfearne, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
'Isobel Robey, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
'Alice Nutter, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
'Jane Bulcock, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
'John Bulcock, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
'Katherine Hewitt. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
'The day after the trial, the ten convicted prisoners | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
'were brought to a place still known as Gallows Hill.' | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
This was a piece of State theatre - the moment when the majesty of God, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
and the majesty of the law, were very much focused on this one event, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
and everybody could see the power of it. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
CREAKING | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
At the critical moment the witch was led out, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
forced to climb the ladder, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
the noose put over her neck. At that moment, the crowd went rather quiet. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
They didn't die from having their neck broken, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
but from slow strangulation that might take as long as 20 minutes. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
In fact, there are accounts of friends and family | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
coming forward and pulling on the legs | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
of the poor person being executed in order to hasten their end. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
Condemned prisoners were expected to make one final confession. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
It was a last chance to save their souls, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
though not of course their lives. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
We're told that Elizabeth and Alice Nutter NEVER confessed, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
not even with their dying words. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
I think it's probably very likely, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
based on the standards of the day, | 0:36:57 | 0:36:58 | |
that Jennet would have been encouraged to be there, too. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
A lot of history's most ghastly locations | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
are completely transformed now. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
This is a park where kids come to play football | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
and do whatever kids do in parks these days. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
For me, the most chilling thought about what happened here | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
was the idea that Jennet might well have been watching the hangings. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
And the last thing that Elizabeth might have seen | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
as she looked from the gallows might have been | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
the face of her daughter, the child who'd put her there. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
We don't know anything | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
about what happened to the orphaned Jennet Device | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
in the years that followed the execution of her entire family | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
and most of her neighbours. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
It's difficult to imagine anybody wanting to take her in. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
But it could be argued that they weren't her last victims. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
'Thanks to Potts's published account, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
'Jennet's influence would travel far beyond Lancashire. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
'Although there had been earlier cases | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
'of children being heard as witnesses in witch trials, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
'the law stated that children under the age of 14 | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
'were not credible witnesses as they could not be sworn under oath. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
'But that was set to change.' | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Imagine you're a 17th century JP or magistrate. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
You're not trained in the law like the judges are, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
but you need to investigate, question witnesses, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and compile a case for the Assize. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
What you need is one handy book that gives you all the basics, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
something that you can just pull off the shelf whenever you need it. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
'The Country Justice is that book. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
'It's by a man called Dalton, and was first published in 1618. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
'This handbook was used by all magistrates both here | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
'and in the colonies in America.' | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
You've got some people accused of witchcraft. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
So you look up "Advice On Witnesses" - see page 541... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
And here it is. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
"For children, I find in the book of the Discovery of Witches | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
"at Lancaster Assizes..." That's Thomas Potts's book. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
"..that the son and daughter..." That's Jennet and James. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
"..of Elizabeth Device, a witch..." Here we go. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
"..the one about nine years of age, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
"the other of 14, did, upon their oaths, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
"give open evidence against their mother, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
"then prisoner at the bar." | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
So, what Jennet did in 1612 ended up giving a precedent to magistrates, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
not just here, but across the Atlantic, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
to seek the testimony of children in trials of witchcraft. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
And, before we say that this is outrageous, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
let's remember that today there are still trials | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
which rely on child testimony due to lack of alternative witnesses. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
Today, the testimony of children as young as three | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
has been used in criminal trials. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
The law says that they have to understand the questions put to them | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
and to give answers which are understandable. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
'And the most extraordinary thing was that Jennet herself | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
'would come to fall victim to the very precedent she set. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
'In November 1633, 22 years after the nine-year-old Jennet | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
'testified against her family, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
'a ten-year-old boy from Pendle came home late one evening, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
'and told his parents a very strange story.' | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Edmund Robinson explained that the reason he was late | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
was that he'd been picking berries. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
'And, while gathering berries, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
'he said he'd seen two greyhounds. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
'"I tried to get them to chase a hare, but they didn't run, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
'"so I beat them with a stick. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
'"One of the dogs turned into a witch, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
'"and the other into a boy. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
'"She then turned him into a horse. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
'"The witch took me away on the horse to that house, Hoarstones, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
'"and their barn was full of witches, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
'"maybe 60 of them. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
'"From the ceiling there were all these ropes hanging down, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
'"and they were pulling on the ropes, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
'"and amazing food came falling down. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
'"I was frightened so I ran away, and they chased me for ages. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
'"Before I got home I met a boy with cloven hooves. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
'"I fought him - that's why I'm so scruffy. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
'"It's not my fault!"' | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
All of which seems to have been accepted | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
as a genuine reason for lateness. Somewhat surprisingly! | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
'After hearing this story, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
'the boy's father took him from village to village, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
'to stand in the churches and point out the witches he had seen. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
'For three months.' | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
The curate of a local church described seeing Edmund at work. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:30 | |
'"The boy was brought into the Church of Kildwick, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
'"and was set upon a stall to look about him, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
'"which moved some little disturbance | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
'"in the congregation for a while. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
'"And after prayers, the people told me that it was the boy | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
'"that discovered witches." | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
'On the evidence of Edmund's bizarre story, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
'about 20 people were imprisoned and put on trial in February 1634.' | 0:42:57 | 0:43:03 | |
One of them was called Jennet Device - | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
accused of killing Isabel, wife of William Nutter. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
I can see absolutely no reason | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
to think that it's not the same Jennet Device, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
from the earlier Lancashire trial, that's accused by Edmund Robinson. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
The fact that someone of the same name | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
appears as a suspect in the second trial, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
with some of the same families involved, in the same place, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
I think is very suggestive. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:34 | |
I think really that there's no reason to suspect that it's not her. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
Again, it's the stories the children tell | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
that have such an incredible power. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Not only Edmund's story in 1633, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
but the words Jennet used back in 1612 have returned to haunt her. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
She'd been a witness for the crown as a nine-year-old, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
and had been spared the noose. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
But this time, surely, she'd hang? | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
'Yet these were different times, and England had changed since 1612.' | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
When we look back | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
into the 17th century, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
we think of what happened before the 17th century. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
We think of a world | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
where witches were persecuted, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
where people relied on what others said, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
everybody was suspicious, everybody was uncertain. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
It was a time of great political and religious uncertainty. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
And then, when you look forward to the 18th century, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
you've got a sense of order and stability. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
So the 17th century WAS a period of transition. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
'When Thomas Potts wrote his book, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
'he thought he'd be pleasing the King with his account. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:45 | |
'But James's continued interest in witch trials | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
'led him to become more sceptical.' | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
Something very important happens at Leicester in 1616. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
A boy, maybe 12 or 13 years old, claims that he's bewitched, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
the case goes to trial, and nine women are hanged. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
Well, the following month James I goes to Leicester, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
he interviews the boy, and discovers that he's lying. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Then, as a consequence, the judges are very soundly rebuked | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
and this goes out as a message to other judges | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
to be very, very cautious in witchcraft cases, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
particularly if your star witness happens to be a child. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
'And, by the time Edmund told his story in 1633, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
'a new king was on the throne. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
'Charles I was even more doubtful about witch-hunting | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
'than his father had become. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
'His attitude towards religion was so different from his father's | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
'that many suspected him of being a Catholic. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
'His wife certainly was.' | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
Crudely it's true that the most radical Protestants, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
the people we call Puritans, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
are the most concerned about the Devil and demons. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
And, as Charles I is a king who is deeply suspicious of Puritanism, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
he's pretty suspicious of accounts of demons. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
So, here we are, 22 years later, back in the courtroom. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
Just as before, a jury listened to a child telling stories of witches. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
But this time, Jennet was in the dock. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
'And, just as before, the jury believed the child to be honest, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
'and the prisoners evil. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
'On Edmund's testimony, 17 people were found guilty, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
'and should have been sentenced to death.' | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
But, in this new kind of England, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
this changed England, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:35 | |
the judges weren't happy with these verdicts, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
and the matter was referred to London - | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
to the King and the Privy Council. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
'Four were sent from Lancashire to London.' | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
But not Jennet. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:51 | |
She was one of those who waited behind in the castle, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
where several prisoners had already died of gaol fever | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
during the 15 months they'd spent there. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
'London in 1634 would have been another world | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
'for the women of Lancashire. When they arrived | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
'the four were held in the Fleet Gaol. While they were there, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
'a pair of playwrights immediately produced a play called | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
'"The Witches of Lancashire", | 0:47:27 | 0:47:28 | |
'featuring the story told by little Edmund.' | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
They got the play on stage so quickly | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
that, while the women were behind bars, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
on show to the public for a penny or two, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
the piece was already being performed. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Londoners could go to the gaol in the morning to gawp at a witch, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
or a Northerner, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:47 | |
and then see a play about them in the afternoon. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
It was the complete entertainment package. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
ACOUSTIC MUSIC PLAYS | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
A hare! | 0:47:57 | 0:47:58 | |
A hare! | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
DOGS WHINE | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
There! | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
The Devil take these curs - will they not stir? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
I'll see if I can put spirit into you | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
and put you in remembrance what "halloo, halloo" means. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
METALLIC TWANG | 0:48:11 | 0:48:12 | |
Blessed heaven! | 0:48:12 | 0:48:13 | |
One of the greyhounds turned into a woman, and the other into a boy! | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
You have served me well to swinge me thus! | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
You young rogue, you have USED me like a DOG! | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
Are not you a witch? | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
The power of stories never ceases to amaze me. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
A young lad in rural Lancashire tells his tall tale, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
the next minute it's a play in London. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
Help! Help! | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
Help! Help! | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
Help! | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
'It's interesting that, although in 1634, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
'most people still believed in witches, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
'they were able to laugh at them. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
'That would never have happened in 1612. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
'This new way of looking at the world | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
'was also apparent in the advances being made by scientists | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
'which would, over the century, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
'transform our understanding of nature.' | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
Scientific research and experimentation | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
didn't banish a belief in witchcraft and superstition overnight. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
Far from it. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
But it did provide serious tools | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
for trying to tell the innocent from the guilty. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
These were applied in 1634 | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
to those women from Lancashire accused of witchcraft. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
This was one of the earliest ever cases | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
of what came to be known as forensic science - | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
science relating to the law courts. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
The 1612 trial | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
represents an older way of thinking | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
where everything was based on credulity, superstition, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
everybody willing to believe everything nasty that was said. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
By the time you get to 1634, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
although it's absolutely by no means a scientific era, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
it seems as though people are behaving in a more rational way, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
and demanding what we would think of as scientific, forensic, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
objective evidence. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
What is shifting in the 17th century, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
slowly, and by fits and starts, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
is a belief that you have to demonstrate something physically. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
And if you can't demonstrate it in medicine, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
you cannot use it as evidence. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
In other words, there may be an invisible world | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
of spirits around you, but you have to prove physical effect | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
in order to bring them into a law court. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
'King James had written in his Daemonologie, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
'that one good way to identify a witch | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
'was to look for "witches' marks" - | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
'a place on the body where you could see a teat | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
'that had been used by the Devil to suckle.' | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
All the accused people from Lancashire | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
were examined for these marks, including Jennet. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Here, it says they found, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
"Jennet Device - two paps or marks in her secrets". | 0:50:48 | 0:50:53 | |
I think "secrets" means probably exactly what you think it means. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
The other four people brought to London | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
also had their marks listed. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
For example, Margaret Johnson - | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
"One mark or pap betwixt her seat and her secrets." | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
'Now, King Charles wanted his own, trusted physician, William Harvey, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
'to re-examine the women.' | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
William Harvey is one of the great medical Brits of all time. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
He is most known for discovering how blood circulates through the body. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:29 | |
He takes up his place with the likes of Isaac Newton and Christopher Wren | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
as one of the new, forward-looking people of the 17th century, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
who are plugging into a European will to do things better than ever before. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
'Harvey was sent on more than one occasion | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
'to examine witches on the King's orders.' | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
There was a village witch who had a toad as her familiar. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
Not an unfamiliar situation. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
William Harvey caught the toad, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
and dissected the toad, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
and then showed the dissection to the witch | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
to prove to her that it was just a normal toad - | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
that there was nothing supernatural about it. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
And the woman flew at him and tried to tear his skin off with her nails. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
"You've killed my toad!" | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
She wasn't in the slightest bit grateful | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
that he'd brought science and rationality to her aid. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
From her point of view, he'd killed her pet, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
and probably removed the foundation stone of her business. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
Here in London, Harvey recruited | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
five physicians and ten female midwives | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
to conduct the examination. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
This time, almost all of the previously suspicious marks | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
were deemed to be "nothing unnatural". | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
And this is actually the way in which witch-hunting becomes undone. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
It's not so much people going in straight for the core, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
and saying, "We don't believe in witchcraft." | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
It's people saying, "We need to be careful about how we prosecute | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
"because standards of evidence needed to be raised." | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
And if you raise a standard of proof high enough in witch trials, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
they come to an end altogether. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
According to William Harvey and his scientific team, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
there was no physical evidence against any of the prisoners. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
Everything now rested solely on the evidence of the child. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
In 1612, Jennet Device had been unflappable in court - | 0:53:15 | 0:53:20 | |
cool and consistent. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
But, in 1634, under examination from the Privy Council | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
and Secretary of State, ten-year-old Edmund Robinson cracked. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
'He said that the story he told was inspired by | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
'stories he'd heard about the Device family. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
'He had heard the neighbours talk | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
'of a witch feast that was kept at Mocking Tower in Pendle Forest | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
'about 20 years since. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
'Cross questioning established that Edmund's father | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
'had been blackmailing the women, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
'getting his son to accuse any who refused to pay. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
'The Robinson family had some fine new cows! | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
'Jennet and the other prisoners were acquitted of witchcraft.' | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
For me, the story is remarkable | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
because the tale told by Jennet in 1612 had such resonance | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
that it took on a life of its own in Pendle, and refused to go away. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
Edmund accused Jennet of witchcraft | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
precisely because her story had been so convincing and so compelling. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
Her own words were almost the death of her. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
'Since the time of Jennet Device, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
'we have become less credulous of magic, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
'and more rigorous in our demand for empirical evidence. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
'In our modern, technological age, we pride ourselves | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
'on our rationality and scientific understanding of the world.' | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
But some things don't change. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
Many people still believe in evil, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
though where that evil occurs tends to change from year to year, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
from community to community - | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
child-killers, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
drug-dealers, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
paedophiles, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:14 | |
terrorists. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:15 | |
Many still consider such evil to be the work of the Devil. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Believe it or not, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
the Church of England continues to perform exorcisms. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
'Now, as then, we have fear, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
'and at times of crisis, fear still leads to miscarriages of justice.' | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
When we hear a story, like the Lancashire witch trials | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
from the first half of the 17th century, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
it's easy to feel distance from this strange alien world, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
where people believed things that we don't believe, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
and acted in ways that we might consider to be barbaric. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
But, of course, in the post 9/11 world, | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
the era of the War on Terror, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
it's still quite easy to build policy on paranoia, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
and therefore to over-react in certain situations | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
and to infringe civil liberties in the name of security. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
So, in situations where we do feel threatened by the enemy within, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
people around us who might be trying to undermine Western civilisation, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
we can easily find ourselves behaving | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
in ways which are frighteningly similar | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
to the ways in which some of those people behaved in Pendle | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
in 1612 or 1633. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
So, what about Jennet Device, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
the Lancashire child at the heart of this story? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Did she walk away from two witch trials unscathed? | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
'Perhaps. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:46 | |
'In the prison records of 1636, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
'Jennet and some of the others acquitted of witchcraft | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
'were still imprisoned. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
'Lancaster Castle inmates had to pay for their board, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
'and stay until the debt was cleared. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
'Which, for someone like Jennet, might have been impossible. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
'There are no more records of Jennet Device after 1636. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:16 | |
'But we do know that her legacy lived on. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
'3,000 miles from Lancaster, 19 people were hanged in 1692. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:27 | |
'These witch trials in Salem, Massachusetts, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
'were perhaps the most infamous in history. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
'Most of the evidence was given by children. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:40 | |
'On the Salem magistrates' table was Dalton's Country Justice, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
'suggesting children were suitable witnesses in trials of witches, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
'and citing Jennet Device, 1612.' | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
400 years ago, the idea of witches in one's midst | 0:57:58 | 0:58:03 | |
must have been terrifying, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
but, for us today, I think it's the enigma of Jennet Device herself | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
which we find so disturbing. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
We'll never know why she said what she said, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
but that desire to believe her | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
was borne out of the kind of wild and irrational fear | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
that can turn neighbour against neighbour, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
and relative against relative, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
and can make, well, demons out of all of us. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
Maybe it's because our protective instincts are so strong, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
and our imaginations so powerful, | 0:58:32 | 0:58:34 | |
but we still struggle to control that fear during times of crisis, | 0:58:34 | 0:58:40 | |
times when the truth can be the hardest thing of all to divine. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
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