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Between 1939 and 1945,

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125,000 young men faced the most dangerous task

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of any British serviceman in the war.

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They suffered the highest casualty rates.

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Nearly half of them, 55,000, were killed.

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It looks like hell. And you really think this is going to be it.

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They were the bomber crews, who took on Hitler when airpower was the only way of striking back at Nazi Germany.

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We were involved in total war. We were involved in fighting for our lives.

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I'm Ewan McGregor, and this is my brother, Colin.

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We've always had a fascination with the Royal Air Force during the Second World War.

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Last year we made a documentary about the Battle of Britain.

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But we wanted to know what happened next.

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The few had saved us from invasion, and the RAF was already building a huge force

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that would take the fight over into Germany.

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And that force was Bomber Command, and during my career in the RAF, I, too, was a bomber pilot.

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I flew this supersonic Tornado, unlike my predecessors,

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who flew the legendary Lancaster,

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and I'm going to get the chance to see if I can fly the last remaining Lancaster in Britain.

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The pilot was one of a team of seven who lived, fought and often died together.

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I'm going to explore what it was like to be part of this band of brothers in the air.

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Their story is one of endurance, teamwork and understated heroism.

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No, I'd never flown before. Hadn't even driven a motor car before.

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You'd got a job on.

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And that's what you just did, you just sat there and did it.

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But it's also a story that is dogged by controversy.

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Despite the undoubted heroism,

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the men of Bomber Command found themselves to be ignored after the war.

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The massive attacks on Hamburg and Dresden killed thousands of civilians

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and were judged by many to be unnecessary.

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There was a war on, and we had to win,

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because God knows how it would have turned out if we hadn't have won.

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In 1940, the RAF's fighters repelled invasion in the Battle of Britain.

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But the German Luftwaffe continued to bomb Britain's cities in the Blitz.

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And with the British army defeated at Dunkirk,

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Prime Minster Winston Churchill identified the only way to hit back.

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"Our supreme effort must be to gain overwhelming mastery of the air.

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The fighters are our salvation, but the bombers alone provide us the means of victory."

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Winston Churchill, 1940.

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And one aircraft, more than any other, symbolises that struggle for victory.

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RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire is home to the last flying Lancaster Bomber in Britain.

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It's maintained by the RAF's Battle of Britain Memorial Flight.

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Squadron Leader Ian Smith is its guardian.

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She is one of two airworthy Lancasters in the world.

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There's only two left flying?

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Yeah. And the other one's in Canada.

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-And here she is, in all her glory.

-Wow! Absolutely incredible.

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-Isn't she stunning?

-Yeah. So many would they have built then?

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-7,377 Lancasters were built.

-Yeah.

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But circa three and a half thousand were shot down over Germany.

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Lancaster was the best aircraft ever during the war.

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It could hold a very big bomb load,

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it could take a lot of punishment,

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and it was a real pleasure to fly.

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Four beautiful Rolls Royce Merlin engines at the age of 22?

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Who wouldn't enjoy that?

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Ah, a fantastic aeroplane, beautiful.

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She was a real lady.

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And like all ladies,

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if you treat them right, they go!

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The Lancaster carried the heaviest bomb load of any bomber in the war.

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It meant there was little space inside.

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Mind your head.

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And what will be transparent straight away is just how,

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despite the fact that it's an enormous aeroplane.

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-Yeah.

-Just how little room there is in here.

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Just think, you're just in normal gear here.

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-Imagine you had a flying kit on.

-Yeah.

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I can't actually do it with my jeans, cos they are slightly too tight anyway.

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Imagine with a flying jacket on.

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It's all very well doing it in daylight,

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but if this aeroplane was on fire, spinning out of control in the dark,

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it would be a bit of a challenge, wouldn't it?

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Ah, just a bit!

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God!

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Oh yeah, look at this.

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Oh, it's incredibly open at the side, it's amazing.

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This is exactly as she would have been when she was flying in wartime.

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-All these instruments are original, are they?

-Yeah, absolutely.

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So, the pilot, the captain of the aeroplane would have sat

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in the left hand seat in front of you, Ewan,

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and this is the bullet proof plate here at the back there,

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which would have protected him to some degree.

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You've got a really good view and all the rest of it,

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but it does feel very vulnerable, doesn't it?

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You do feel really vulnerable up here.

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I mean this is, literally, only three eights of an inch Perspex,

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and the side of the walls of the aeroplane is two millimetres of aluminium,

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which won't stop anything.

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To realise my dream of piloting this precious and iconic aircraft,

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I need to train first on some other heavy planes from the era.

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The roar of a wartime Spitfire heralds the arrival of the man

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the RAF trusts to supervise that training.

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This fellow taxiing in in his Spitfire now is your instructor.

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Oh right!

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And he's going to take you through the training

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-for you to be able to see what the boys went through to fly the Lancaster.

-OK.

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Making this dramatic entrance is Air Marshall Cliff Spink, a former RAF pilot.

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He's an expert on Second World War planes, and recently taught me to fly the Spitfire.

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-Hello!

-Hello!

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There's a pilot we recognise.

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They told me that the McGregors were here,

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so I thought I'd better come and make sure you didn't get up to any mischief.

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-Good to see you again.

-Good to see you, Colin.

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Going to see if you remembered all that you learned last year.

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Yeah, exactly, yeah. I'm going to have to shift my view a little higher up next, I think.

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Last summer, Cliff guided me through the basic training all wartime RAF pilots experienced

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before I was allowed to pilot a single-engine Spitfire.

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But this time, I'll have to master a two-engine World War Two transport plane

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before I'm allowed to pilot the four-engine Lancaster.

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For me, as a member of 617 Squadron, it's probably the greatest privilege that you could ever get

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just to fly a Lancaster, so, you know, certainly a career-long ambition of mine to do.

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The Lancaster would become the most successful bomber of the war,

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but it only came into service two and a half years into the conflict.

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In the early days of World War Two, Bomber Command was ineffective.

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Its force of just 280 light bombers, flying in daylight, sustained losses of up to 50%.

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In one disastrous attack on Alburgh in Denmark, all eleven planes were shot down.

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Then, on November 14th 1940,

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a German night raid on Coventry showed the RAF how to bomb effectively.

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Steven Bungay, an expert on the Air War, has brought us to look at newsreel of the attack.

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-NEWSREEL:

-All the available German night bombers were put into the air.

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On the night of November 14th, a million pounds of bombs were dropped on the city.

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It was the most devastating raid of the war so far.

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Coventry was smashed as bad as Warsaw and Rotterdam.

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60,000 buildings were destroyed, and 568 civilians lost their lives.

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Coventry was a centre of aircraft manufacture,

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but instead of targeting just the factories, the Luftwaffe chose to flatten the whole city.

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-Incredible.

-Yeah.

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The mass grave and things, I had never seen that, I didn't know that went on.

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What the Germans achieved in Coventry was a concentration of bombing.

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It wasn't just scattering things over quite a wide area.

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And that's very important for the consequences that the RAF drew from this.

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They realised that if you had some specialists using specialised equipment,

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which we didn't have at the time but quickly started to develop,

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then you could achieve concentration.

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And concentration had a big impact.

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Bomber Command now knew what it had to do.

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If it couldn't hit individual factories,

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it would destroy everything around them in concentrated raids.

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This became known as area bombing.

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The objective was industrial disruption.

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By destroying infrastructure, simply the means that people use to get to

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work in the morning, you can produce a dip in industrial production.

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The targets were the major German industrial cities,

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like Berlin and Hamburg,

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and the manufacturing heartland of the Ruhr.

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But it would take nearly two years before Bomber Command could put its plan into action.

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If I'm going to fly the Lancaster by the end of the week, I'll have to start my training.

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So I've come to White Waltham, a former RAF base, to learn on this wartime Dakota.

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My supervisor, Cliff, is hooking me up with Kath Burnham.

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Hi, Kath.

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She's one of only two qualified Dakota instructors in the country.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Colin McGregor.

-He's your new student.

-Very good.

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I hope he doesn't let me down. He flew the Tiger Moth and the Harvard and the Spitfire last year.

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I hate him already(!) Yeah. Go on.

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-Back on the heavy metal now.

-Great stuff.

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-So, best of luck and I'll see you tomorrow.

-Yeah, cheers.

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-Shall we go in?

-Yeah, let's do it.

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This is a pretty solid old aeroplane, the DC-3.

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It's excellent for him to get a feel for that,

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before he gets on to something which is extra tonnage of the Lancaster.

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That's it.

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Now I've got Kath next to me, and I've got to make sure that when she asks me to do something

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I do it correctly.

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It's going to have to happen like that, so I'm quite nervous about it.

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He's asking all the right questions, it's always a good start.

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And, um, looking a little bit apprehensive, I think.

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You tell me it's turning.

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This World War Two veteran is so unlike the type of plane

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I fly today in my job as a commercial pilot.

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And even though it needs Kath to help me get it off the ground,

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I'm going to have my hands full piloting this beast.

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Cliff will be passing a critical eye over the proceedings.

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If I shout "bird" just put your hands over your eyes. This is glass.

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OK, it'll smash, yeah.

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Now, after all the pre-flight checks, it's time for the real test.

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Take off.

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There's so much to concentrate on.

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It's so difficult to control this type of plane on the ground.

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I'm straining to keep it on a straight track.

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Oh, yes!

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Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! That was nice.

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That looked all right, didn't it? Nice and straight.

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Cor, sounds amazing, doesn't it sound brilliant, that plane?

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He's a very good pilot, of course, one of the best.

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It's hard to describe what it feels like.

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It's like driving a vintage bus with manual gears, after being used to a modern sports car.

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That was good. To me, anyway. When you're in the back of a big aeroplane like this,

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you sense the yaw, and he was not paddling too much,

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which suggests he was keeping it reasonably straight.

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I've been flying for more than 20 years and this tough.

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It makes you think about those 18-year-old trainees flying

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a monster like this for the first time.

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Attention!

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At RAF flying schools, potential pilots were cherry-picked from the raw recruits.

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The remaining volunteers went on to specialise in other crew disciplines.

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All pilot recruits were then sent abroad to one of the 333 Empire air training schools.

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They were scattered throughout the British Empire.

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18-year-old Desmond Pelly went straight from Charterhouse School to learn to fly in Canada.

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Canada, of course, happened to be an extremely good place for training.

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Because there were no blackout conditions,

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and you flew in completely peacetime conditions,

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which was wonderful.

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Reg Barker was just 19.

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To be up in the sky, on your own, in a beautiful aeroplane,

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with the freedom of the sky.

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Oh, fantastic. What a privilege it was.

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No, I'd never flown before. Hadn't even driven a motor car before.

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-Remind me when you take flat one again?

-With the gear.

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-With the gear, so that's already done.

-That's it, yeah.

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So when you're at final and you're stable...

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On my training flight in the skies above Berkshire,

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I'm still wrestling with this demanding twin-engine workhorse.

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But now I've got the measure of the controls I'm really enjoying it. This is real, physical flying.

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He's on final approach. They've got the gear down.

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So, as you can see, he's working pretty hard.

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What I'm nervous about now is getting this plane back onto the bumpy grass runway.

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The tricky part is stopping it swerving on landing.

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OK, this is the big moment, let's see if he does it.

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-Bingo!

-And take the flap down. Busy with your feet. OK, pop the tail down.

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-Now the fun really starts, is keeping it straight.

-Well done!

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-That was, that was very good.

-Good man.

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He's just trying to show me up now.

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Landing's one thing, but with a tail will aeroplane,

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the next thing is keeping it straight.

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Where is it? There. Ooh!

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KATH LAUGHS

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You did that on purpose!

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I didn't kill anybody!

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Yeah, well done. Mind the little red sign.

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Yeah, got it. I think we'll quite while we're ahead, shall we?

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KATH LAUGHS

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Woo-hoo-hoo!

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All right Colin?

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Good job!

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I'm a bit sweaty! It was hard work.

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Considering you've never flown one at all, ever, I think not too bad, eh?

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-It was very good.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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How does it feel, what does it feel like to fly?

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-It's beautiful in the air, it's really solid, you know?

-Yeah.

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I mean you, like you say, you've gotta come in and command it,

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you've gotta, you know, tell it where you want it to go.

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Before I finally get my hands on the Lancaster, Cliff has a much tougher task up his sleeve.

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If you went to the cinema in 1941 you'd have believed that the bombing campaign was going very well.

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Let go of a thousand pound, Mick.

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Bomber Command had switched to night-time raids,

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and the crews were reporting that they were hitting their targets.

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I got a ghoul there with the last one!

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Good man. Make a Nazi cigar.

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But Prime Minister Winston Churchill was about to discover the shocking truth.

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At the National Archives in Kew, I'm meeting archivist Jessica Lutkin,

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who's going to show me what was really going on in 1941.

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Right, this is an important document for the history of Bomber Command and it was written in 1941,

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and it's an analysis of the success rate

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of the bombing campaigns that went on over in Germany.

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It was the first scientific report that was done, so the first time they had statistics.

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Before that, it was just the crews reporting back and saying whether they'd hit target or not.

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How did they gather that evidence? How did they get scientific evidence?

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They used photographs. They used photographs on the undercarriages of the planes

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that would take pictures of when the bombs were set off,

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and from those photographs, they could then write a report.

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I want to make a sort of snooker joke but I can't think of one.

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"For those of you watching in black and white, the pink is next to the blue."

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Right. So, let me turn to a report for you. So there you are.

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"An examination of night photographs taken during night bombing in June and July

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points to the following conclusions.

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Of the aircraft recorded as attacking their target, only one in three got within five miles.

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And over Germany as a whole, the proportion was only one in four.

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And over the Ruhr, it was only one in ten."

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-Yes.

-Does that mean only one in ten got over the target?

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Or the bombs dropped hit the target?

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Only one in ten actually reached the target.

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So what would the reaction have been when this report was read by the top brass?

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And what was, what was the reaction to it?

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It was shock. It was simple shock.

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They couldn't believe just how bad things were.

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Wow!

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Surprising to see how ineffective the bombing campaign was early on.

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And clearly to Churchill, and to the powers that be at the time, that it was so ineffective.

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And yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they put that right,

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what they put in place to try and improve matters.

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For Churchill, the answer was simple.

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Bomber command needed a complete overhaul, and he started at the top.

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In February 1942, Arthur Harris was appointed its new Commander-in-chief.

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We're meeting author Patrick Bishop to find out more about Harris.

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The one name that keeps cropping up during our journey through this research is Bomber Harris.

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Well, Bomber Harris was the name that the general public knew him by,

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but among his peers he was Burt Harris,

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and to his men he was Butch.

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He had a bristly little moustache that gave him this air of porcine belligerence,

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and you crossed him at your peril.

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But what he did have was enormous drive and enormous energy and enormous confidence,

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and he brought all those qualities to Bomber Command.

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He arrived at a good time,

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these big four-engined bombers were just arriving at the squadrons,

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and he turned these heavy bombers into weapons of mass destruction.

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I mean, you can date from his arrival,

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the time when things start getting very unpleasant for the Germans.

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Was he liked, do you think, by the crews?

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I think he was respected enormously.

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And they, I think, understood what it was that he was doing,

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and the fact that their lives were being put on the line,

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I think they, they understood that that's what had to be done.

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I mean, hard men are needed in wartime, and he was certainly that.

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Harris had an unflinching belief that bombing alone could win the war. And he didn't mince his words.

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"The Nazis entered this war

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under the rather childish delusion

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that they were going to bomb everybody else

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and nobody was going to bomb them.

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At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places,

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they put that rather naive theory into operation.

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They have sewed the wind and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

0:21:530:21:58

That whirlwind had four engines and it was called the Lancaster.

0:22:000:22:04

With a top speed of nearly 300 miles an hour, it was faster than any of its predecessors.

0:22:040:22:10

It also carried the biggest bomb load of any aircraft in the war.

0:22:110:22:15

-COMMENTARY:

-It's 33 ft long. When it's released its load,

0:22:150:22:18

another two or three acres of Germany will never be the same again.

0:22:180:22:21

Harris now had the weapon he needed.

0:22:230:22:26

He placed it at the centre of his plans to build a huge force

0:22:260:22:29

that he believed could break the Germans by area bombing alone.

0:22:290:22:33

He dreamed of assembling a thousand bombers for a single raid,

0:22:350:22:40

so he doggedly pursued the Air Ministry to build more planes.

0:22:400:22:43

The drive to get the new heavy bombers out of the factory demanded a huge workforce.

0:22:460:22:51

I'm meeting Susan Jones, who, as a teenager,

0:22:560:22:59

worked as a riveter on the new, state-of-the-art Lancaster.

0:22:590:23:02

So Sue, this is the first time you've seen your plane for a little while, isn't it?

0:23:040:23:07

-It's so emotional. You know, I could just cry now, looking at her.

-Yeah.

0:23:070:23:14

She's absolutely brilliant.

0:23:140:23:16

How long did you build these planes for?

0:23:160:23:20

Five years.

0:23:200:23:21

-From what age?

-16.

0:23:210:23:24

-16.

-Regular nights. Seven at night to seven in the morning.

0:23:240:23:29

-For five years?

-Five years. Happiest days of my life.

0:23:290:23:33

Oh, they were brilliant.

0:23:330:23:34

These four-engine bombers were affectionately known

0:23:360:23:39

as 10,000 rivets flying in close formation.

0:23:390:23:43

-You hold it upright, go on.

-Yep.

0:23:430:23:45

And then I'll hold onto the back, and then when I call "rivet",

0:23:450:23:47

-just give it a couple of seconds on the gun.

-Just a touch.

0:23:470:23:50

Rivet!

0:23:500:23:51

That's it.

0:23:510:23:52

-There we go. That's one done.

-That's it?

-Yeah.

-OK, let's have another go.

0:23:520:23:56

Oooh, you'll have to be quicker than that.

0:23:560:23:58

Rivet!

0:23:580:24:00

-There we go.

-That's a good rivet, though, no?

-Let me see.

-Yeah, it's not bad.

0:24:000:24:03

-Can you get that underneath there?

-Yeah.

0:24:030:24:05

-Oh sorry, I didn't wait for your command, I beg your pardon.

-Oh!

0:24:080:24:11

That will definitely not pass inspection!

0:24:110:24:13

I think you should have a go.

0:24:130:24:15

-It's a bit heavy for me, this one.

-OK, I'll hold it with you.

0:24:170:24:19

Right.

0:24:220:24:23

Rivet!

0:24:230:24:24

-There we go.

-OK.

-Oh, that's a professional one, you see!

0:24:240:24:28

That's a real pro, that one.

0:24:280:24:30

Think I'll get a job here?

0:24:310:24:33

In 1942, 700 of the revolutionary new Lancasters

0:24:350:24:40

were delivered to frontline bases.

0:24:400:24:42

The Lancaster was, you know,

0:24:430:24:46

something else. It was a real war machine,

0:24:460:24:50

it looked the part.

0:24:500:24:51

It's still, to me, a powerful, powerful machine,

0:24:510:24:54

I'm very proud, you know, I was associated with it.

0:24:540:24:57

Whatever manoeuvre you wanted it

0:24:570:25:01

to do, it did. It did. It did.

0:25:010:25:04

Brilliant.

0:25:050:25:07

You felt comfortable in it.

0:25:080:25:10

It could take a lot of punishment.

0:25:120:25:14

It could fly on two engines

0:25:140:25:16

and one side quite easily.

0:25:160:25:18

In fact, I do know of one chap

0:25:180:25:19

who brought a Lancaster all the way back from Germany

0:25:190:25:22

on one engine.

0:25:220:25:23

To fly the new bombers, trainees were pouring out of the flying schools.

0:25:250:25:30

And it wasn't just the pilots.

0:25:300:25:32

Each Lancaster needed six more crew members. Two gunners, the flight engineer,

0:25:320:25:38

the navigator, the bomb aimer, and the wireless operator.

0:25:380:25:43

Bomber command was also a multi-national force.

0:25:440:25:49

One in four of its recruits came from overseas. All were volunteers.

0:25:490:25:54

In a wartime hangar, wireless operator John de Hoop recalls

0:25:550:25:59

the reasons he joined up when he was just 18.

0:25:590:26:02

One, you got more money.

0:26:020:26:05

Two, you got sheets with your blankets,

0:26:050:26:08

-which I thought was so civilised.

-Yeah.

0:26:080:26:10

Three, you were given a pair of shoes and a pair of boots,

0:26:100:26:15

rather than two pairs of boots, I hated wearing boots.

0:26:150:26:18

And fourthly, because once you'd got your wing,

0:26:180:26:22

using a colloquial term of the time, it pulled in the birds.

0:26:220:26:26

COLIN LAUGHS

0:26:260:26:28

The process of turning the individuals into a team was known as crewing up.

0:26:290:26:35

This wasn't the usual hierarchical military process.

0:26:350:26:38

It was rather more democratic.

0:26:380:26:40

Looking back, it seemed a bit chaotic,

0:26:400:26:44

because you'd be put in a hangar and they said,

0:26:440:26:46

"Right, get on with it, get crewed up", and closed the doors.

0:26:460:26:49

So you were stuck in a great big room.

0:26:490:26:51

Full of pilots and navigators,

0:26:510:26:54

bomb aimers, wireless operators

0:26:540:26:57

and two gunners.

0:26:570:26:58

And told yourself, get yourself crewed up.

0:26:580:27:00

You stand around wondering what's going to happen next, who should you go with?

0:27:000:27:04

And this chap came up, he was obviously older than we,

0:27:040:27:09

and he said, "I'm a rear gunner," he said, "Are you two chaps looking for a crew?"

0:27:090:27:14

We said, "Yeah, yes we are." And he said, "Well I've found a pilot.

0:27:140:27:18

I've questioned him, and he told me he had a crash while he was training,

0:27:180:27:22

so I think he'll be bloody all right in future, he'll do for us!"

0:27:220:27:25

So I said, "Well, OK, that suits us." So off we went.

0:27:250:27:28

So that was the crew!

0:27:280:27:29

This was a remarkable mixing of classes,

0:27:310:27:33

ages and nationalities, unthinkable before the war.

0:27:330:27:37

A crew might consist of a former public schoolboy,

0:27:370:27:40

a London docker, a farmer from New Zealand and a Canadian bank clerk.

0:27:400:27:45

All of a sudden, we became blood brothers.

0:27:470:27:51

We helped each other out in everything. And we were a good team.

0:27:510:27:55

If we hadn't have been I wouldn't be here today.

0:27:550:27:58

The one thing that I remember with some emotion is the fact

0:27:580:28:03

that in the billet, sharing with another crew, all Kiwis,

0:28:030:28:08

and I recall both crews went on an operation,

0:28:080:28:12

and when we came back all their kit had gone, and bed stripped,

0:28:120:28:18

and I remember sitting on our beds and being quite shattered

0:28:180:28:25

by this experience of losing these guys who'd been with us.

0:28:250:28:29

So we did what most blokes would do in that case,

0:28:290:28:32

there's only one thing to do, go down the pub and get sozzled.

0:28:320:28:36

The crews were now setting out nightly in the new four-engine bombers

0:28:380:28:42

to carry out Harris's grand plan of defeating Germany by area bombing alone.

0:28:420:28:47

A mission could last up to ten hours,

0:28:500:28:52

targeting industrial centres deep in the heart of Germany.

0:28:520:28:55

The telephone perhaps would ring.

0:28:560:29:00

Then the Flight Commander would call "That's it, boys! It's on."

0:29:000:29:05

Then there'd be a deadly hush.

0:29:050:29:07

That meant that night, we were going to be on ops.

0:29:070:29:10

We would disappear up to the mess for your meal,

0:29:120:29:16

always eggs and bacon and sausage, a bit of fried bread.

0:29:160:29:20

Then you would go up to the briefing room and there

0:29:220:29:25

they would draw back the curtain and you could see where your target was.

0:29:250:29:31

Then there'd be a big "ohh!" if it was, you know, a long one.

0:29:310:29:36

Once the planes were loaded up with bombs and fuel, the crews were ready to go.

0:29:380:29:43

Once you got on the end of a runway to take off,

0:29:450:29:49

then the tension was really wound up.

0:29:490:29:53

There was no talking at all. None.

0:29:530:29:56

You waited for a green aldis lamp, and you took off and saw them waving to you to take off.

0:30:010:30:06

Used to think, "Am I going to be back here in a few hours' time?"

0:30:100:30:15

Navigator Douglas Hudson recalls an extraordinary moment

0:30:220:30:25

just as his bomber force headed out across the North Sea.

0:30:250:30:28

There was a flight of German bombers coming almost on the reciprocal,

0:30:300:30:34

on the opposite track.

0:30:340:30:37

So the skipper said, don't do anything unless they do.

0:30:370:30:41

And you know what they did? They just gave us a wing salute.

0:30:410:30:46

And they went on to bomb Goole. And we went on to bomb Stuttgart.

0:30:460:30:49

The crews would have to remain alert for many hours,

0:30:510:30:53

and something stronger than coffee was on offer.

0:30:530:30:57

Amphetamine pills.

0:30:570:30:58

They gave us wakey-wakey tablets.

0:31:000:31:02

Well, we used to call them wakey-wakey tablets!

0:31:020:31:04

Personally, myself, I never, ever took them.

0:31:040:31:08

I used to stick mine with a bit of chewing gum on the side,

0:31:080:31:12

to the inside of the rear turret, you know?

0:31:120:31:15

I only did it once. I didn't need them again.

0:31:150:31:18

I was wound up before I went anyway, like the seven in the crew.

0:31:190:31:24

Stan Bradford was a mid-upper gunner. He's also a decorated ace.

0:31:250:31:30

He shot down five German fighters.

0:31:300:31:33

Never, ever, ever in my life was I ever comfortable. No. No.

0:31:330:31:39

Frightened to death.

0:31:390:31:41

And anybody that says he wasn't, well, he's a bloody liar.

0:31:410:31:44

The crews were about to run the gauntlet of the German air defences.

0:31:460:31:50

Back at White Waltham, I'm ready for the next stage of my training on another Dakota.

0:31:570:32:03

It brings me one step closer to flying the Lancaster.

0:32:030:32:06

And Cliff wants to use the flight to give me a flavour

0:32:110:32:13

of how difficult the most basic navigation task was during World War Two.

0:32:130:32:18

I've plotted the course and I need Colin to fly at a set speed to get to the destination on time.

0:32:200:32:26

-So, what sort of speed do I need to fly?

-120.

0:32:270:32:30

-120 what?

-120 knots.

0:32:300:32:31

-Knots?

-Knots.

0:32:310:32:33

No, this is in miles per hour.

0:32:330:32:35

-It is.

-Is it?

-Yeah.

0:32:360:32:38

Well, we've worked it all out in nautical miles.

0:32:380:32:41

I'm not mucking around, man. It's in miles an hour?

0:32:410:32:44

What's the speed dials in this one?

0:32:440:32:47

Miles an hour.

0:32:470:32:48

-That's what I thought.

-OK.

-Can you manage that conversion?

0:32:480:32:50

I don't know how to convert it. What is the conversion?

0:32:500:32:53

Were you not taught? What, come on, basics!

0:32:530:32:55

What are the basics? Go on, how do you convert it from knots to miles then?

0:32:570:33:00

Well, I'll just have to fly 138 miles per hour.

0:33:000:33:03

-And that will equal 120 knots.

-Is that right?

-Yeah.

0:33:030:33:05

OK, good, good, good on you! No-one told me about the nautical miles.

0:33:050:33:10

Thankfully World War Two navigators were better informed.

0:33:100:33:13

It's properly exciting to be here.

0:33:130:33:16

I'm a bit nervous about the navigation, but we'll just have to see how that goes.

0:33:160:33:20

But it is unbelievably exciting to be in this aeroplane.

0:33:200:33:23

Yeah, maybe we'll end up somewhere fancy in Normandy or something, and we can have a crepe!

0:33:230:33:29

Modern planes have GPS, radar and air traffic control.

0:33:360:33:40

But all trainee navigators had was a map, a compass and a watch.

0:33:410:33:46

First, Cliff wants me to navigate south to a point on the Isle of Wight.

0:33:590:34:05

This is exactly the kind of training trip a new crew would have undertaken.

0:34:050:34:08

INAUDIBLE RADIO CHATTER

0:34:160:34:19

What I need to do now is use landmarks along the way to make sure I'm on course and on time.

0:34:250:34:29

You should be crossing a road.

0:34:350:34:37

Yeah, I've got a main road we're just crossing now. It's quite heavily wooded.

0:34:400:34:43

Bang on. Well done, pilot!

0:34:430:34:46

But after a good start, I think I may have lost an entire town.

0:34:480:34:51

You wouldn't happen to know where Haslemere is, sir, would you?

0:34:520:34:56

-No, no, I'm not a navigator here.

-Haslemere?

0:34:560:34:59

How big is it? Well there's a town there, just west of the nose. Looks quite big.

0:35:000:35:06

-We are three minutes to target, three minutes.

-OK.

0:35:090:35:14

-A little bit over to the right, Colin. Two degrees.

-Good man. You've got it, you've got it.

0:35:140:35:18

And we're coming a little...the target's just a little way to the right there, Colin,

0:35:220:35:25

that building on the...

0:35:250:35:27

The building, is it? All right. Just here.

0:35:270:35:30

-Bugger me, Ewan, you've found it!

-Yeah.

0:35:300:35:33

Yeah. There you go, smack over the top. Well done, mate.

0:35:330:35:35

-Going out to there now. Target now.

-Yep.

0:35:350:35:38

We've reached the first destination. Not bad for a beginner.

0:35:380:35:43

When we were flying the Lancaster,

0:35:430:35:46

my Canadian navigator was able

0:35:460:35:48

to produce a fix every six minutes

0:35:480:35:51

throughout the flight,

0:35:510:35:52

which I think was a tremendous achievement of concentration,

0:35:520:35:57

in order that we would arrive at our target dead on the time that

0:35:570:36:00

we'd been instructed to arrive.

0:36:000:36:02

Look at that, dead on, zero nine zero. Very nice, pilot, carry on.

0:36:020:36:06

Now for the tricky part.

0:36:100:36:12

Cliff wants to take me on a simulated bombing run over water.

0:36:130:36:17

It's the closest I'll get to night flying. So, no landmarks to help me at all.

0:36:180:36:23

Target's just on the left there, captain.

0:36:310:36:33

Right, so that's the lighthouse, is it?

0:36:330:36:35

There it is, my destination. The lighthouse at Beachy Head.

0:36:350:36:38

Ah, we're going to be over it, but we're going to be one...

0:36:400:36:43

Going to be a bit early, I think.

0:36:430:36:45

Maybe a little early, yeah. One minute now. So.

0:36:450:36:47

We've got to the target a minute early.

0:36:470:36:50

60 seconds that mark the difference between success and failure.

0:36:500:36:53

In a night bombing run, we would have dropped our bombs into the darkness.

0:36:530:36:59

We're going over the top now.

0:36:590:37:01

On a raid to Berlin, we would have overshot by a disastrous 20 miles.

0:37:040:37:08

But navigating at night wasn't the only problem the bomber crews faced.

0:37:120:37:16

As they crossed the North Sea, they were picked up by German radar.

0:37:180:37:21

The closer they got to their destination,

0:37:240:37:27

the more intense the searchlights and the flak from the anti-aircraft guns.

0:37:270:37:31

We were caught in searchlights and they had us for 35 minutes.

0:37:320:37:37

Now, you could guarantee, basically, that if you were caught

0:37:370:37:42

in searchlights, you could say goodnight, nurse, that was your lot.

0:37:420:37:48

But fortunately for us, we came through it.

0:37:480:37:51

The Germans had the ideal anti-aircraft weapon in the 88mm gun.

0:37:530:37:58

Thousands were diverted from the Russian front to stop the RAF getting through.

0:37:580:38:03

You can view the target on flames and surrounded by millions of shell bursts.

0:38:060:38:13

It looks like hell.

0:38:130:38:15

And you really think

0:38:150:38:17

that this is going to be it.

0:38:170:38:21

To overwhelm the enemy's defences, the bombers travelled through

0:38:230:38:27

the target area in a tightly packed bomber stream.

0:38:270:38:31

It meant there was always the danger of mid-air collision.

0:38:310:38:34

Another Lancaster came out from our starboard side

0:38:360:38:41

and stuck his wing tip straight into us.

0:38:410:38:44

Just under the mid-upper turret.

0:38:450:38:47

There was, putting it crudely, a bloody big bang.

0:38:490:38:53

Even though the tail of the aircraft was close to breaking away,

0:38:550:38:59

Dave refused to abandon his position.

0:38:590:39:01

The skipper said to me, "Well David, you can bail out if you wish."

0:39:010:39:07

We could still have been attacked by enemy aircraft.

0:39:080:39:12

My turret was still operational. So why should I jump out?

0:39:120:39:17

What, leave my mates?

0:39:170:39:18

If the plane made it to the target,

0:39:300:39:32

then the most dangerous part of all. The bombing run itself.

0:39:320:39:36

The pilot had to fly straight and level, no matter what.

0:39:380:39:42

You say bombs away, and you could also look into the bomb bay

0:39:420:39:47

from the bomb aimer's position to make sure they've all gone.

0:39:470:39:50

And if they have, close the bomb doors

0:39:500:39:53

and then the pilot gets out of the trouble.

0:39:530:39:56

Then the aircraft lifted,

0:39:570:39:59

having got rid of the weight,

0:39:590:40:00

we were all very relieved,

0:40:000:40:02

shut the bomb doors,

0:40:020:40:03

and away we went for home.

0:40:030:40:04

Bomber Harris was a man in a hurry.

0:40:140:40:17

By May 1942, just three months into the job,

0:40:170:40:20

he mustered enough resources to unleash 1,000 bombers in a single raid.

0:40:200:40:25

The target was Cologne.

0:40:260:40:28

The first wave was so successful,

0:40:290:40:31

that by the time the second wave took off they didn't need their navigators.

0:40:310:40:36

"Before we crossed the English coast,

0:40:380:40:40

the skipper said to the navigator,

0:40:400:40:42

"I think I can see a red glow in the sky.

0:40:420:40:45

It's a long, long way away."

0:40:450:40:47

The navigator replied, "That's Cologne.

0:40:470:40:50

You don't need me any more, just head for it."

0:40:500:40:53

We could actually see Cologne burning from England.

0:40:530:40:56

Looking out, it was just a small red glow on the horizon.

0:40:560:41:00

When we got there, the whole place was a sea of fire

0:41:000:41:03

and we dropped out bombs into the middle of it.

0:41:030:41:06

It was a piece of cake really.

0:41:060:41:08

The raid destroyed 2,500 industrial buildings.

0:41:100:41:14

It killed 469 civilians and bombed more than 40,000 out of their homes.

0:41:140:41:21

It shook the Nazi high command so much that Cologne survivors

0:41:230:41:27

were ordered to remain silent about the devastation on pain of death.

0:41:270:41:31

For Harris, it was confirmation that his masterplan would work.

0:41:340:41:39

There are a lot of people who say that bombing can never win a war.

0:41:390:41:45

Well, my answer to that is that it has never been tried yet,

0:41:450:41:49

and we shall see.

0:41:490:41:50

Soon, the Ruhr, Essen, Berlin

0:41:510:41:53

and countless other cities were

0:41:530:41:55

the targets of area bombing, being hit night after night.

0:41:550:41:59

The bomber crews were now undertaking large-scale

0:42:010:42:04

raids into the heart of Germany.

0:42:040:42:05

They were often flying twice a week to targets up to six hours away.

0:42:070:42:11

And with US entry into the war in January 1942,

0:42:130:42:16

Bomber Command now had a formidable ally.

0:42:160:42:20

In the summer, the US began to bomb by day.

0:42:220:42:26

It meant the Allies could hit German war industry around the clock.

0:42:260:42:30

But there was a price to pay.

0:42:380:42:41

The German defences were becoming ever more deadly.

0:42:410:42:44

A Lancaster lasted for, on average, just seven missions over Germany.

0:42:440:42:48

Only one in six of the crews was expected to survive a tour of 30 operations.

0:42:480:42:53

The biggest threat was German night fighters.

0:42:570:43:01

The tail gunners were the bomber's first line of defence.

0:43:010:43:05

Learning how to hit a fast moving fighter plane involved constant practise.

0:43:050:43:10

87-year-old Dave Fellowes wants to show Colin and I how he did it.

0:43:150:43:19

So you did use clay pigeon shooting as, you know, these clays as practise, didn't you?

0:43:210:43:25

We did, a lot. Right from the very elementary gunnery school.

0:43:250:43:29

Because it was the best way of teaching deflection,

0:43:290:43:33

and also your line of sight.

0:43:330:43:35

Pull.

0:43:350:43:36

Gunners were given a regular allocation of clays, so that they continued to practise.

0:43:380:43:43

Pull.

0:43:450:43:47

18 inches ahead.

0:43:500:43:52

Oh, dear.

0:43:530:43:55

< Try a bit more over towards me.

0:43:550:43:58

Try a bit more up in the air.

0:43:580:44:00

I feel the fraternal competition kind of starting to swell.

0:44:000:44:04

Pull.

0:44:040:44:05

It's hard to hit these fast-moving clays.

0:44:060:44:08

Pull.

0:44:080:44:10

Shooting down night fighters must have been infinitely more difficult.

0:44:100:44:13

OK!

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Really close.

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Ha-ha-ha!

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From going through the training,

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to actually flying in the rear turret there for a real mission must have been a big, big difference.

0:44:250:44:29

-I had eyes sticking out like organ stops.

-Did you?

0:44:290:44:32

Looking for an aeroplane that was an enemy one.

0:44:320:44:37

Up!

0:44:380:44:39

-Cor, he's right in there, isn't he?

-He's right quick, isn't he?

0:44:410:44:43

-Oh, you got a bit off the side of that one.

-Yeah. We winged it.

0:44:460:44:51

You winged it, you definitely winged that last one there.

0:44:510:44:54

Having trained with a shotgun, Dave then had to master the .303 calibre machine gun.

0:44:540:44:59

Armourer David Main wants to show us how effective they were.

0:45:010:45:03

-Ready?

-OK.

-OK.

0:45:060:45:08

I'm shooting at metal plate the same thickness as the armour on a German night fighter.

0:45:110:45:15

OK, Ewan, in your own time, go on.

0:45:160:45:18

OK. Clear.

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-This was protection for the pilot and air crew.

-Yeah.

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Usually round his seat.

0:45:320:45:34

And it's actually failed to penetrate in the armour piercing or the ball.

0:45:340:45:38

-Oh, yeah, yeah. The ball didn't go through.

-No.

0:45:380:45:41

-And the armour piercing sort of didn't go through either.

-No.

0:45:410:45:44

It broke the back but it didn't go through.

0:45:440:45:46

More than survivable, that kind of thing.

0:45:460:45:48

Dave's chance of shooting the aircraft down was purely

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hitting a fuel line, a hydraulics line, or a control service.

0:45:500:45:55

That is the only thing that was going to bring that aircraft down using a .303.

0:45:550:45:58

The tail gunner strikes me as the loneliest and toughest job of all.

0:46:010:46:05

I want to get some sense of what it was like for Dave, aged just 19.

0:46:050:46:09

So, I'm going to squeeze into a Lancaster turret, wearing all

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the gear he wore to withstand the sub-zero temperatures.

0:46:120:46:15

That would shut behind me.

0:46:310:46:34

That's quite weird.

0:46:360:46:37

I mean that is quite, that's quite a claustrophobic feeling.

0:46:390:46:43

So, that's your world, now. For nine hours or more, this is my world.

0:46:430:46:48

Well, if we'd have had a thermometer in there, it would never have got above zero, that's for sure.

0:46:510:46:56

It was cold.

0:46:560:46:58

It was no good taking a flask,

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because at around 20-odd thousand feet or more it used to freeze up anyhow.

0:47:000:47:05

They gave you a bar of chocolate, but that froze so hard you couldn't even chew it.

0:47:050:47:10

You couldn't stand, couldn't do anything.

0:47:100:47:13

All you could do is move like this. That's all you could do.

0:47:130:47:18

It's difficult enough getting in,

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but getting out in a hurry was another thing altogether.

0:47:220:47:24

So, if I had to bale out of this, my parachute's out there.

0:47:260:47:29

OK, I would have to turn the turret into this position,

0:47:290:47:33

so the doors were there.

0:47:330:47:35

I'd have to open the doors like this.

0:47:350:47:39

This is when it gets a bit stuck.

0:47:430:47:44

I'd have to lean back,

0:47:450:47:48

grab my parachute here, off that,

0:47:480:47:53

and get it back here, clip my parachute on,

0:47:530:47:56

then I'd have to turn the turret round so that my back was

0:47:560:48:01

outside here, and then fall backwards out, into the night.

0:48:010:48:07

And if the plane was on fire, or if the plane was in a spin,

0:48:070:48:13

which it often was, it would be, I mean, almost impossible, I think.

0:48:130:48:17

Which is why so many of the poor rear gunners didn't make it,

0:48:170:48:21

you know, they didn't get out.

0:48:210:48:23

I knew where my parachute was.

0:48:230:48:25

If the skipper gave the orders to bale out, I knew exactly what to do.

0:48:250:48:30

We had an attitude in our aircraft, in our crew,

0:48:300:48:33

if the aeroplane stays up there, we stay with the aeroplane.

0:48:330:48:36

Simple as that.

0:48:360:48:37

"From my mother's sleep I fell into the state,

0:48:390:48:41

"and I hunched

0:48:410:48:43

"in its belly

0:48:430:48:44

"till my wet fur froze.

0:48:440:48:46

"Six miles from Earth,

0:48:460:48:47

"loosed from its dream

0:48:470:48:49

"of life,

0:48:490:48:50

"I woke to black flack and the nightmare fighters."

0:48:500:48:53

"And when I died, they washed me out of the turret with a hose."

0:48:540:48:58

With limited firepower, the crews employed another tactic to avoid German night fighters.

0:49:050:49:09

The corkscrew.

0:49:090:49:10

This was a series of fast dives and climbs more suited to a fighter.

0:49:120:49:17

But the brilliant Lancaster was more than up to it.

0:49:170:49:20

If your gunner suddenly said

0:49:220:49:23

"Corkscrew port",

0:49:230:49:24

you went right the way,

0:49:240:49:26

turned it, right down

0:49:260:49:27

like that, you screwed around

0:49:270:49:28

at the bottom, you went up the gauge,

0:49:280:49:30

screwed over the top and down.

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And you can imagine the strain on that aircraft.

0:49:320:49:34

And with a full bomb load on, you were doing this sort of thing.

0:49:340:49:38

We were attacked four times on one night by fighters.

0:49:380:49:42

And we escaped from them every single time by corkscrewing.

0:49:420:49:44

But the corkscrew was only useful if you could see the enemy coming.

0:49:490:49:52

In 1943, crews reported seeing other planes blow up in mid-air for no apparent reason.

0:49:520:49:59

The Luftwaffe had developed a new deadly secret weapon,

0:50:000:50:05

known, rather bizarrely, as jazz music.

0:50:050:50:08

Schraege Musik.

0:50:080:50:09

German night fighter pilots realised

0:50:090:50:12

that the bombers had a blind spot,

0:50:120:50:14

namely underneath.

0:50:140:50:16

They were able to come up underneath,

0:50:160:50:18

and they had a couple of guns pointing up at an angle through the cockpit.

0:50:180:50:24

The bomber they were attacking wouldn't see them,

0:50:240:50:27

it wouldn't hear them.

0:50:270:50:28

The first thing they would know is there'd be cannon shells

0:50:280:50:30

ripping through the aircraft from beneath.

0:50:300:50:32

If the thing was below you firing this jazz music cannon, there was no way out.

0:50:320:50:38

One of the pilots who used this deadly weapon was Rolf Ebhart.

0:50:400:50:44

He flew the Messerschmitt 110, hunting down British bombers.

0:50:440:50:48

He shot down eight.

0:50:500:50:52

Tell us about the first time you engaged a Lancaster.

0:50:520:50:56

I saw it about 120 yards higher.

0:50:560:50:59

So I was shaking and my heart was throbbing, of course.

0:50:590:51:04

And I said to me, "Don't miss, don't miss, so I positioned myself under the Lancaster,

0:51:040:51:10

and not thinking that the Lancaster

0:51:100:51:14

was on the flight to the target,

0:51:140:51:18

so it had all the bombs in,

0:51:180:51:21

I aimed in the middle of the fuselage

0:51:210:51:25

and the thing exploded after a second.

0:51:250:51:28

And the result was I couldn't see anything any more,

0:51:290:51:36

I was so blinded, for about five minutes, then slowly the sight came back.

0:51:360:51:41

Rolf was so close to his victims that he was able to record their serial numbers in his logbook.

0:51:420:51:47

Abschluss, Lancaster. Abschluss, Lancaster.

0:51:520:51:56

I've got the code number from some of them.

0:51:560:52:02

It was a third, Halifax.

0:52:020:52:06

And here, three in one night, within 15 minutes.

0:52:060:52:09

The new upward firing cannon meant that in 1943,

0:52:110:52:14

the night fighters were accounting for 70% of Bomber Command losses.

0:52:140:52:18

One man lived to tell his story of this invisible enemy.

0:52:220:52:26

Reg Barker's Lancaster was torn apart by Schraege Musik.

0:52:280:52:31

His plane went into an uncontrollable dive and Reg began to black out.

0:52:330:52:38

I couldn't move a little finger, even,

0:52:390:52:41

I was pinned up against the canopy of the roof, the roof canopy of the cockpit.

0:52:410:52:45

And I could see the fires burning below,

0:52:450:52:48

the fires that we'd started in Kiel.

0:52:480:52:50

And it was quite evident that it would only be seconds,

0:52:530:52:58

perhaps, before we hit the earth.

0:52:580:53:00

Then suddenly it, all was peace. All went quiet.

0:53:000:53:04

Had I arrived in the place, in the heavenly abode

0:53:040:53:09

to which, no doubt, the Almighty had intended? I don't know.

0:53:090:53:12

Suddenly there was a swishing sound,

0:53:150:53:18

which I realised afterwards

0:53:180:53:21

was the wind tearing through my clothes.

0:53:210:53:24

I was out in the sky, I wasn't in the cockpit any more.

0:53:240:53:27

How that happened really is only a matter of conjecture.

0:53:270:53:31

And I could see my aircraft coming down beside me,

0:53:310:53:35

very much ablaze, of course.

0:53:350:53:38

The parachute opened and I could see below me the trees of a wood,

0:53:390:53:45

floodlit by the flaming aircraft.

0:53:450:53:48

At that moment, I dropped into the treetops.

0:53:480:53:51

So that was a miraculous escape.

0:53:510:53:55

Reg spent the rest of the conflict as a prisoner of war.

0:53:550:53:58

So these are my identity tags, dog tags as we called them.

0:53:580:54:02

One was my RAF officer's tag,

0:54:020:54:06

and the other one is the one issued to me by the Germans

0:54:060:54:11

when I became a guest of the Nazis.

0:54:110:54:15

Stalag Luft 1, it says. 5182, that's me.

0:54:150:54:19

The nightly dice with death was a horrendous strain for the young men of Bomber Command.

0:54:210:54:26

Gunner Stan Bradford remembers a crew-member who cracked up on a mission.

0:54:260:54:32

During one trip, we had a problem with our engineer.

0:54:320:54:39

To this day, Stan won't reveal his name.

0:54:410:54:44

There was no Ginger. I'm not letting his name out.

0:54:450:54:49

Ginger, he was ginger haired.

0:54:490:54:51

And Ginger, he wasn't available.

0:54:510:54:56

He was hiding behind the pilot's seat.

0:54:570:55:00

He was just took away. We never saw him again.

0:55:010:55:04

Your documents would be stamped LMF, lack of moral fibre.

0:55:060:55:11

And that put you in a terrible situation afterwards,

0:55:120:55:15

if anybody would have asked to see his documents, service documents.

0:55:150:55:19

Cases of LMF were rare.

0:55:250:55:26

For the rest, their stress was released in other ways.

0:55:280:55:31

There were some extreme cases,

0:55:330:55:35

people were shooting off revolvers

0:55:350:55:37

out of the windows at night,

0:55:370:55:39

and, you know, really low level beat-ups of the aerodrome,

0:55:390:55:45

and all sorts of things, and they would just get told off.

0:55:450:55:49

They realised that you had to let off steam.

0:55:490:55:52

Across the East of England, hundreds of bomber bases were bursting with thousands of young men,

0:56:010:56:06

desperate to get away from the war for a few short hours.

0:56:060:56:10

We always did everything together.

0:56:100:56:12

So, when we went out together, we had to get on by two-seater MG.

0:56:120:56:17

So, we sat three on the hood at the back, three on the front seat,

0:56:170:56:22

and two on the front mud guards.

0:56:220:56:24

And we used to strap them round their waist

0:56:240:56:26

and over the bonnet so they didn't fall off.

0:56:260:56:29

And only on one occasion was I stopped by the police,

0:56:290:56:31

not because we were breaking the law, but he wanted to make

0:56:310:56:34

quite sure the two on the front mudguards weren't going to fall off.

0:56:340:56:37

Ewan and I have come to the Bluebell in Lincolnshire,

0:56:440:56:47

a favourite haunt of the Bomber boys.

0:56:470:56:49

Here, the crews would drink the pub dry.

0:56:490:56:52

We're meeting Dave, pilot Tony Iveson

0:56:530:56:57

and navigator Douglas Hudson.

0:56:570:56:59

A lot of silly things happened.

0:56:590:57:01

But I guess you were young guys, weren't you? You were 20, 20 years old?

0:57:010:57:04

-There wasn't any malice aforethought at all.

-No.

0:57:040:57:07

Like the burning of the pianos that took place

0:57:070:57:10

and all the other things, motorbikes in the mess.

0:57:100:57:13

-Oh, that!

-Oh, yes!

0:57:130:57:15

Doing a doughnut in the mess.

0:57:150:57:16

Doing doughnuts round the mess. Now that appeals to me!

0:57:160:57:19

Well, the boys with me brought a cow in the mess one day.

0:57:190:57:21

They got this cow in the mess and it didn't half make a mess!

0:57:210:57:23

Many of the young men were inexperienced, baffled by the opposite sex.

0:57:270:57:31

Most of us were to bloody young to understand female company at that age.

0:57:310:57:35

We were all fingers and bloody thumbs!

0:57:350:57:38

And we were also told and shown films,

0:57:380:57:42

vivid, vivid American films about VD.

0:57:420:57:46

You know, the horrors of what could happen to you.

0:57:460:57:50

Well, that used to put you off for life! Nearly.

0:57:500:57:53

"If she's easy, she's got it."

0:57:530:57:55

"If she's got it, you'll get it."

0:57:570:58:01

"And remember, a blob on the knob slows demob."

0:58:010:58:04

LAUGHTER

0:58:040:58:07

Yeah, I haven't heard that one before. Very good!

0:58:070:58:10

By 1943, Bomber Command was fighting the war with an even greater ferocity.

0:58:140:58:19

It was dropping more and more bombs.

0:58:200:58:24

But German industry didn't appear to be collapsing.

0:58:240:58:27

After a while, people began to suspect that

0:58:270:58:29

factories could be repaired

0:58:290:58:31

and got working again fairly quickly,

0:58:310:58:34

so the next point of vulnerability

0:58:340:58:36

was actually seen to be the workers,

0:58:360:58:38

and this was the beginning of the sinister thought that,

0:58:380:58:41

actually, the real target is civilian workers.

0:58:410:58:46

The term used to describe this policy was "de-housing".

0:58:460:58:50

The aim was not just to blow up, it was to burn as well.

0:58:520:58:56

Bomber Command was now dropping more incendiaries than high explosives.

0:58:560:59:01

In July 1943, Harris used this lethal cocktail to devastating effect.

0:59:010:59:07

-COMMENTARY:

-Hamburg, second largest city of the Reich,

0:59:140:59:17

is being liquidated in a series of record attacks by the RAF.

0:59:170:59:20

The main attack started on Saturday, 24th July, and for nights afterwards,

0:59:200:59:25

hundreds of our four engine bombers kept it up hot and strong.

0:59:250:59:28

We're travelling to Hamburg to find out more about the impact of the raid.

0:59:320:59:36

A number of factors made this attack so shattering.

0:59:370:59:40

RAF deception diverted the German night fighters away from the bomber force

0:59:460:59:50

and the elite pathfinders marked the target perfectly.

0:59:500:59:53

The combination of a hot dry summer and the high proportion

0:59:561:00:00

of incendiaries created a phenomenon never seen before. A firestorm.

1:00:001:00:05

Temperatures reached 800 degrees. Winds, 150 miles an hour.

1:00:091:00:14

Nadia Convery is a Hamburg resident and researcher.

1:00:161:00:20

She's brought us to St Nicholas' Church.

1:00:201:00:22

It was so prominent in the landscape that the RAF used it as an aiming point.

1:00:241:00:29

Today, it's a memorial to those lost in the bombing.

1:00:291:00:32

-God! That's unbelievable, isn't it, the destruction.

-Yeah.

1:00:371:00:41

The blockbuster bombs, they would drop first to sort of lift the roofs of the houses,

1:00:411:00:46

and then they would drop the incendiary bombs into houses

1:00:461:00:50

where there was a lot of wood inside.

1:00:501:00:52

They would just go up in flames, and the streets were quite narrow,

1:00:521:00:56

so it was easy for the fire to spread.

1:00:561:00:58

And that was the aim, to set fire to them?

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That was the aim, and apparently the British researched into how flammable German cities were.

1:01:071:01:13

In one area, 96% of the houses were completely gone. Destroyed.

1:01:131:01:18

Bloody hell.

1:01:181:01:19

The Nazis feared six more raids like it would finish the war.

1:01:191:01:25

42,000 men, women and children were killed.

1:01:251:01:29

Quite an eye opener, really, when you see those pictures and you see the endless,

1:01:291:01:33

endless empty shells of buildings,

1:01:331:01:37

and the tons and tons of rubble.

1:01:371:01:39

I just keep thinking about families, and children,

1:01:401:01:42

and trying to get, you know, as a parent, trying to get your

1:01:421:01:45

kids out of that hellhole must have been beyond awful, you know.

1:01:451:01:50

Nadia has invited us to a city centre hotel

1:02:051:02:07

to meet some of the victims of the Hamburg firestorm.

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Hans Werner Prell was 13 at the time. Helga Hunter was 16.

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Very nice to meet you, hello.

1:02:201:02:21

The story of this suitcase is a special one, actually,

1:02:211:02:26

so in this suitcase were important documents, a bit of, you know,

1:02:261:02:31

jewellery, that's all that remained.

1:02:311:02:33

It's the only thing he saved. He was clutching it through the firestorm.

1:02:331:02:37

HANS SPEAKS GERMAN

1:02:381:02:42

They could hardly move because of the force of the winds.

1:02:451:02:48

And so he's described it quite powerfully.

1:02:481:02:52

He said there was this red wall coming towards him,

1:02:531:02:56

and then they'd get pushed over and have to get up again,

1:02:561:02:59

and try and sort of battle against that force.

1:02:591:03:02

So that's quite a powerful image.

1:03:021:03:05

He says that just as you're sitting next to me,

1:03:051:03:09

people would, would go up in flames next to him.

1:03:091:03:13

It's unimaginable, it's just, what he saw, it's just, yeah.

1:03:131:03:18

Yeah, I was 16 at that time, on that night. Can I speak German?

1:03:191:03:25

Of course.

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HELGA SPEAKS GERMAN

1:03:271:03:30

The streets had been hit. And everything had gone up in flames.

1:03:331:03:37

And so, walking home, she had to pick her way across, you know,

1:03:371:03:43

people lying in the streets dead, dead bodies.

1:03:431:03:47

Because of the intense heat, the tarmac melted,

1:03:491:03:52

and she saw people trying to walk across, and getting stuck,

1:03:521:03:56

and then, yeah, not being able to, to free themselves,

1:03:561:03:58

and no-one else could help, because they would get stuck then too.

1:03:581:04:01

I think when you read about the area bombing campaign,

1:04:141:04:18

and how that was described by senior officers and what have you,

1:04:181:04:23

there's ways that you can phrase it

1:04:231:04:25

to sound like it's not the indiscriminate bombing of civilians, you know,

1:04:251:04:31

you can justify it in words by saying that it's a legitimate tactic

1:04:311:04:37

to damage the industrial might of the country you're fighting against.

1:04:371:04:43

I don't know if you can ever justify one way or the other.

1:04:431:04:46

You know, you can't say, you know,

1:04:461:04:49

there's a statistic, there was 42,000 civilians killed here in a week in Hamburg, in one raid.

1:04:491:04:55

You can't ever justify that.

1:04:551:04:58

You can't ever justify the killing of innocent people,

1:04:581:05:01

you can't justify the killing of six million Jews and homosexuals

1:05:011:05:04

in concentration camps, either, extermination camps,

1:05:041:05:06

but it's not really about that, I suppose, it's just trying to understand it.

1:05:061:05:12

Yeah. What it took to ultimately defeat that evil.

1:05:141:05:18

Yeah, Nazism. Yeah, yeah.

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And 70 years ago, things were very different. The war was far from won.

1:05:231:05:29

Bomber Harris felt that more raids like Hamburg would bring victory by the spring.

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We propose to entirely emasculate

1:05:361:05:39

every enemy centre of war production if necessary.

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We are well on the way now to that end.

1:05:441:05:47

The shadow of raids like Hamburg has influenced the way we've fought wars ever since.

1:05:501:05:54

The RAF now uses air power in a much more targeted way.

1:05:561:06:01

Bosnia, Iraq, where I served, Libya and Afghanistan,

1:06:011:06:05

are so different from the area bombing of World War Two.

1:06:051:06:08

We are all use to seeing images of precision strikes.

1:06:111:06:15

Collateral damage is no longer acceptable.

1:06:151:06:18

My old squadron, the Dambusters, was at the forefront of developing

1:06:231:06:27

this new tactical approach to airpower.

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It's currently on active service in Afghanistan.

1:06:311:06:34

I want to see for myself how the modern RAF copes with

1:06:341:06:37

the conflicting demands of using air power and avoiding civilian casualties.

1:06:371:06:42

To get to the squadron base in Kandahar, I have fly there by night.

1:06:481:06:53

This is to avoid a Taliban attack on our plane.

1:06:531:06:55

I've got a full set of body armour on.

1:06:561:06:58

Obviously we're in a combat zone at the moment, so, yeah, we've got

1:06:581:07:02

to protect ourselves from anything that could get fired up at us.

1:07:021:07:06

It's four years since I've been with my old squadron,

1:07:071:07:10

so I'm looking forward to getting there

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with a mixture of excitement and trepidation.

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We're making the journey in a blacked out Hercules.

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Just before we arrived, a rocket was launched into the Kandahar base.

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This reminds me of what those young bomber crews experienced

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setting off on a night mission, 70 years ago.

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In World War Two, a thousand bombers would set out on a mission.

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Today, the RAF is using a detachment of just eight

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supersonic Tornados to achieve its aims.

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I mean, my experiences from Iraq are pretty similar to this operation really,

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it's a similar sort of size.

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But it's still nothing on the scale of World War Two.

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I mean, you're talking over 100,000 people flying in World War Two.

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The coalition is in the process of handing over power to the Afghan government.

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The highly political situation could hardly be more sensitive,

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and the last thing they can afford is to inflict any civilian casualties.

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But, fortunately, modern planes are much more flexible than the Lancaster of 70 years ago.

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They can perform a variety of roles that range from attacking the enemy

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to identifying improvised explosive devices hidden in the ground.

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Wing Commander Keith Taylor is the current 617 Squadron Commander.

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He's at pains to show how he is using the latest technology to avoid collateral damage.

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Before he even considers using a weapon to support forces on the ground,

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he'll intimidate the enemy first with a low-level fly past.

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I did a show of force, and, you know, we pulled up afterwards,

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back into the wheel, and asked the ground commander if we'd met his intent.

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And his words were, yes, you know, there was a bit of a situation developing down here,

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and I just wanted to show, you know, the bad guys that my dog was bigger than his dog.

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If that fails, only then will he reach for his range of precision weapons,

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from heavy cannon to guided missiles and bombs.

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And to help the crews make the right decision,

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they are also using some of the world's most powerful cameras,

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in what's known as the lightning pod.

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So you can, I mean you basically can, even up at sort of 15,

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20,000 feet, you can pick out an individual person.

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Absolutely, yeah, you can pick out people.

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You know, we can really get up close and, in some situations,

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identify whether or not the guys are carrying weapons or not.

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On the current tour, the Squadron has flown hundreds of missions deterring insurgents,

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without dropping a single bomb.

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All this makes you realise what a blunt but effective instrument Bomber Command was

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for the first years of the war.

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But in 1944, Churchill wanted to use the bombers differently.

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He felt they were now capable of a much more precise role.

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In the build up to D-Day, he wanted Harris to move from bombing German cities

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to hitting specific communication and transport targets.

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Bomber Command had made huge advances in the last two years of total war.

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It had become the most destructive force in history.

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But it was now more than capable of carrying out this new task of precision bombing.

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The switch to new methods,

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it was now safer to fly in daylight,

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so some of the raids

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took place in daylight,

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was not welcome to Harris.

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He still stuck to his doctrine that the way to win the war

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was to flatten as many German cities as possible.

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So he put up quite a strong rear guard action, as only he could,

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against a move that everyone else seemed to think was the right one.

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Bomber Command had been a very blunt instrument indeed.

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At this stage in the war, it's now becoming a surgical instrument,

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something that is capable of carrying out applied violence in a very precise way.

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My old squadron, the Dambusters, was pivotal in developing these new tactics.

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They were formed in 1943 to attack the dams of the Ruhr Valley,

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using inventor Barnes Wallis's revolutionary bouncing bomb.

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In 1944, they undertook perhaps the most audacious precision raid of the war.

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We've come to the squadron's former officer's mess, now the Petwood Hotel,

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to meet Squadron Leader Tony Iveson to talk about his part in the raid.

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The Tirpitz was the largest remaining German battleship.

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She represented the most powerful single threat to Allied shipping,

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and it became a British obsession to sink her.

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She was sheltering in the safe haven of the Norwegian Fjords, almost out of range.

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They adapted the Lancaster with more powerful engines,

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and took out the mid-upper turret and the front guns,

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and lots of other heavy stuff, including the armour plating behind my seat.

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The Lancaster could then reach Tromso from northern Scotland,

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which was about, well, it turned out to be

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a twelve and a half hour flight.

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The bomb chosen to sink the Tirpitz

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was the latest Barnes Wallis wonder weapon. The 12,000 lbs "Tallboy".

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We lined up for the run in.

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And the first nine bombs of 617 Squadron went down in 90 seconds.

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So, had you been standing on Tirpitz,

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you had nine five ton bombs arriving,

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through the speed of sound on the way down.

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And there were two direct hits and three near misses.

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And then the 56,000 ton battleship was doomed from that moment.

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-COMMENTARY:

-The ship still firing as the bomb bursts flash and gleam.

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In the smoke of giant explosions, the Tirpitz capsizes and sinks.

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It was an astonishing demonstration of how far Bomber Command had come.

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And it had been achieved with the mighty Lancaster.

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Today is my chance to fly it.

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I think for me, as a member of 617 Squadron,

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it's probably the greatest privilege that you could ever get,

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to fly in a Lancaster, and obviously it's the only one that's left in the UK.

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But the fact that I'm going to be able to do it with Ewan on board as well is really incredible,

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that both of us are going to be able to experience this at the same time,

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and that's what it was all about, it was about being a crew,

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it was about that, that band of brothers kind of feeling,

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so to do it with the person that you feel the closest to is really quite something.

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It's as iconic, the Lancaster, as the Spitfire was.

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The Spitfires were fighting one against one in the air against the enemy.

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And the Lancaster, you know, it's much more complicated than that.

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They were bombing towns and cities, and over the week that we've been doing this,

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the time that we've been doing this has been, you know,

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I've been getting more and more of a sense of how complicated that is.

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The last flying Lancaster is so precious

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that the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight will only take her up in ideal conditions.

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So it's great that the weather is perfect.

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Can't believe you arranged a piper, that's pretty good!

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You've got to remember that this is a war machine, really,

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and people went to war in it, and some, a lot of them didn't come back, so...

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Cor, the pipes make you feel quite emotional as well, don't they, yeah?

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Very nice. Nice touch, that.

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A large crowd, including some of the veterans,

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is here to see the Lancaster on one of the few occasions in the year she takes to the air.

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-This is your end of the aircraft, wasn't it?

-That's right.

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Then when we got the word to go, up the ladder.

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-And then I used to turn to the left.

-Yeah.

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Back in, slide myself into there.

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-Check the rotation of the turret, once the engines had started.

-Yeah.

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Just check everything through.

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Anyone who says he's not afraid is not a human being.

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And the worst period I felt was before a flight, when we knew where we were going,

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and you had the hours getting ready, and you couldn't stop this churning around over your mind,

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but once you were in the aeroplane you had a job to do, and it was a different situation,

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and she was a beautiful aeroplane,

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and you, as a pilot, will understand how thrilling it is to handle such a big machine on take off,

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and feel her ready just to...

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Yes, flying was still, even in those days, exciting.

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Did you shake hands, before you got on, with each other or not?

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Was there none of that sort of thing?

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No, the crew would, the crew would piss on that wheel, but...

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We would do that, but there's just too many people standing around watching,

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otherwise we would do that, we would do that very thing.

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-Thank you very much though.

-Yeah, good luck to you.

-Brilliant.

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-Yeah, cheers.

-Enjoy that trip.

1:17:141:17:16

-Yeah. Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you very much, thank you.

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-You enjoy that trip. I'm sure you will.

-Thank you.

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INAUDIBLE RADIO CHATTER

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Ah, it's an amazing feeling. Exhilarating, as the tail lifts.

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70 knots. 80 knots.

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Air brakes, air brakes off, feel that breeze.

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Easy level travelling.

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-Travelling left.

-And right.

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Colin up front, now.

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And then it's the moment I've been waiting for.

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I'm handed the controls.

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I'm piloting the RAF's only flying Lancaster.

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And we're just coming up on the left hand side. Is that what you want?

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OK, Ewan's in position. Ewan, you all right in the nose? Thank you, yeah.

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And I'm in the nose of the Lancaster with my brother at the controls.

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What a moment.

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Unbelievable view, isn't it? Fantastic visibility up here.

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We're flying in the Lincolnshire skies that, 70 years ago,

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would have been full of hundreds of bombers about to head off to Germany,

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containing thousands of nervous young men, some who would never come back.

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Then, all too soon, I have to hand back the controls.

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You have control?

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We buzz the crowd below, and then it's time to land.

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The last flying Lancaster in Britain, one of the 7,000 or so

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that flew 156,000 sorties, is safely back on the ground.

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Don't fall out!

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That was unbelievable.

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That was really, properly amazing. Properly amazing.

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It was all kind of angles that I've never seen before in my life,

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taking off from there was just extraordinary, because you see the whole of the wings,

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watch all the four engines starting up in front of you.

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I went through to the front, there's a view I've never seen before,

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like lying on my belly looking down, out at the ground, and the sky,

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and an experience that you can't imagine. Well done.

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Well done. That was really good flying, Colin. Really good flying.

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The Lancaster was a brilliant plane, but it was still a devastating weapon of war.

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And nearly 800 of them took part in the raid in 1945

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that defined how some have judged Bomber Command ever since.

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The D-Day invasion had led to a combined push by land and air forces from the west.

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The Russians, too, were pressing from the east.

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Stalin called on the western allies to help clear the way for the Red Army.

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So, Winston Churchill agreed to the last great bomber offensive of the war.

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The one that everyone remembers.

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The irony is that

1:22:431:22:44

when Bomber Command was finally able to

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do what it had always been trying to do,

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trying to do it had lost a lot of its sense.

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But, Harris being Harris, he carried on.

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And one can say that with Dresden, it turned out to be a city too far.

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In February 1945, the Allies unleashed Operation Thunderclap on the city of Dresden.

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-COMMENTARY:

-Dresden, the capital of Saxony,

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becomes a fantasy of the destructive pyrotechnics of the air war.

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The city was a railway hub through which German troops travelled to the Eastern Front.

1:23:201:23:25

But it was also packed with a million refugees, escaping the Russian onslaught.

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The bombing was so devastating that it whipped up another firestorm.

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It killed 25,000 people.

1:23:441:23:46

Churchill had approved the plan, but within weeks he had changed his tune,

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perhaps with an eye to the imminent peace.

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"The destruction of Dresden remains a serious

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"query against the conduct of the Allied bombing."

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Winston Churchill, 1945.

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Harris was appalled by Churchill's comments.

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To his dying day, he defended the policy of area bombing.

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Harris had been

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an outstanding leader.

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He motivated his men,

1:24:231:24:25

he did what he was told

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very effectively.

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But by the end of the war, it has to be said,

1:24:271:24:30

he was wrong to persist in this notion

1:24:301:24:32

that they should carry on battering German cities when the

1:24:321:24:35

war was obviously won, it was doing no good,

1:24:351:24:37

in fact it was doing harm.

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At the end of the war in Europe, on May 13th, 1945,

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Winston Churchill went on the radio to thank our armed forces.

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He chose not to mention Bomber Command at all.

1:24:491:24:53

I thought we got a rough deal.

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Not so much us, although they didn't give us a medal,

1:24:591:25:03

but that's only a little trinket, really.

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But I thought the treatment that Bomber Harris got

1:25:081:25:10

was absolutely, utterly disgraceful,

1:25:101:25:14

because he was only carrying out the orders of Churchill.

1:25:141:25:18

Harris's vision of a war won by heavy bombers alone never came to pass.

1:25:201:25:26

German war industry was damaged, yet never collapsed.

1:25:261:25:30

But a million troops, and thousands of anti-aircraft guns, were pinned down defending the Reich.

1:25:311:25:37

For those who fought in the campaign, there are few doubts about its value.

1:25:371:25:42

Total war is total war, and we were involved in total war.

1:25:421:25:48

We were involved in fighting for our lives.

1:25:481:25:51

And Bomber Command was the only force that could take the war to Germany for four long years.

1:25:511:25:56

They started it. They were, what did they do?

1:25:561:26:00

Auschwitz and all these places, I mean, Christ Almighty,

1:26:001:26:03

they're the ones that started the bloody war, we didn't.

1:26:031:26:07

And, well we finished it off, Germans went off with their tails between their legs.

1:26:071:26:12

I felt badly about it, in many respects, and yet, you know,

1:26:121:26:15

I mean, the war doesn't have Marquis of Queensbury rules.

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And, of course, immediately after the war,

1:26:201:26:22

we got all the screen of what had happened

1:26:221:26:25

in the concentration camps, and the extermination camps,

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and I suppose, you know, it rather hardens one's heart.

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Today, the controversy around the bombing campaign of World War Two still remains.

1:26:341:26:38

Only in the summer of 2012, nearly 70 years after the war,

1:26:421:26:47

will there be a memorial in London

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to honour the 125,000 men of Bomber Command.

1:26:501:26:53

It's very sad that the 55,500 young men in Bomber Command

1:26:581:27:04

who were killed have never been recognised until now,

1:27:041:27:08

which is too late in my view, it's a pity, but it is a little late.

1:27:081:27:15

But, thank goodness, a memorial is now going to be put up for them.

1:27:151:27:19

I knew when we started this project

1:27:281:27:30

that it was going to be a really difficult journey in places, and it has been difficult.

1:27:301:27:34

You know, our visit to Hamburg has raised some questions in my mind.

1:27:341:27:40

But what this journey has taught me is that these very young men who joined Bomber Command

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joined the only force that was taking the fight to Germany.

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What has struck me is how young they were, and what a terrible price they paid.

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Almost beyond any of the controversy,

1:28:011:28:04

I'm also unmoved in my feelings about the men who flew in those planes.

1:28:041:28:07

Because they were demonstrating such unbelievable bravery to

1:28:071:28:11

get in those bomber planes, night after night after night after night,

1:28:111:28:16

twelve hour missions, freezing cold, cramped, frightened,

1:28:161:28:20

and the fact that they would lose friends and they would still get back in the planes.

1:28:201:28:24

So I haven't changed my mind about them,

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other than they're the heroes that I always thought that they were.

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