Ryan versus The White Star Line


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'This case is one of very great importance for the parties

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'and also one of infinite importance to the travelling public.'

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This is the story the owners of the Titanic did not want you to know.

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'I am sorry for the sake of my client that this great fight must arise

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'in a case in which the plaintiff is a humble man in small circumstances.'

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The story of an elderly, poor farmer from rural Ireland

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who took on the mighty White Star Line in the High Court in London.

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'He brought this case to recover damages for the death of his son.'

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A David and Goliath battle between a grieving father

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and one of the biggest companies in the world.

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To think that my grandfather took on such a massive company was amazing.

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To take them on and win.

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100 years on, it's time to tell the story

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of Thomas Ryan versus the White Star Line.

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The recession in Ireland has introduced a new generation

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to a custom many hoped was gone for good.

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Emigration.

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But no matter how difficult and tearful the goodbyes,

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these emigrants can expect to be reunited with their loved ones

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sooner rather than later.

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For the fortune-seekers of Edwardian Ireland, there were no such guarantees.

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They may have left behind grinding poverty,

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but the distances involved and the cost of travel

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were so great that many never saw their families again.

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Well, it wasn't always just about the famine.

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People looked for better opportunity elsewhere.

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You would have had...

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Ordinary life in rural Ireland at that time was difficult.

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Life in the cities was dreadful.

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Dublin was considered to be one of the worst cities

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at the turn of the century throughout Europe.

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So people looked to other countries.

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And, you know, the relatives writing back about this land of opportunity,

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it must have been a huge attraction for people at the time.

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By the early 20th century, Ireland's population,

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which once stood at 6.5 million,

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had dropped to just 3 million.

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Askeaton in County Limerick, like many other parts of rural Ireland,

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experienced that huge social change.

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In 1912, four young people from the town

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decided to seek their fortunes in America.

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Two of those aspiring emigrants

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had already tasted life in the United States.

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27-year-old Daniel Moran

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had been working as a police officer in New York.

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He and his 28-year-old sister Bridget, also known as Bertha,

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had recently returned to Askeaton

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to settle the estate of their father.

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Travelling back to the States with them was 20-year-old Maggie Madigan,

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who was going out to join her sister who had already emigrated.

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And 29-year-old Patrick Ryan,

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who was also planning a career in the New York Police Department.

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But fate intervened.

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And, like so many, the bodies of Patrick Ryan and Daniel Moran

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were lost in the icy waters of the Atlantic.

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Their stories, too, would have vanished without trace,

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but for one man's determination.

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Patrick's father, Thomas Ryan,

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wanted to know the truth behind the sinking of Titanic.

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The only way to find out more about Thomas's story

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is to go to the south west of Ireland,

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to visit his home town of Askeaton in County Limerick,

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where he lived all his life.

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Thomas Ryan was married to Ellen Donoghue.

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They had 13 children, including Patrick and his younger brother Tom.

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It was Tom's son Michael who I found still living in Askeaton.

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Despite him being in his 80s and in poor health, he wanted to see us

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and he allowed me to film the only interview ever recorded with him.

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Is this a story that has just always been important to you?

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Sadly, within just a few weeks of that interview, Michael passed away.

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His dying wish was that people would know how his grandfather Thomas

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took on the mighty White Star Line and won.

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It was now down to his daughter Fiona and son Cormac

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to carry on where he left off.

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You lead the way, Cormac.

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And is this the area known as Toomdeely, then?

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Yeah.

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I'm sure this isn't somewhere you would have visited much

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-before you knew about this story here.

-No.

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This is it.

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Before I contacted you, what did you know about Patrick Ryan?

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That he went down with the Titanic. That was it.

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You knew nothing?

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Absolutely nothing except that he went down with the Titanic.

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That was the sum total of my knowledge of it.

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And Dad had never really spoken much about him.

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We had seen pictures of the Titanic and we were told,

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"A relative of yours went down with the Titanic." That was it.

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-So what did you know about this case?

-Nothing.

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Nothing about it until you came and opened it all up.

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Now that you've found out so much more,

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what do you make of it all?

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Um... We were shocked when we heard about it

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and amazed that Thomas Ryan from Askeaton had...

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We were thinking how had he the money to go and pursue a case like this,

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taking on a huge company,

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and that he actually won. We were just amazed.

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'This is the only photo Cormac and Fiona have

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'of their Great Uncle Patrick.

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'He was a cattle dealer

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'and most likely worked here, at the family farm.'

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So this is the original homestead. I know it's a factory now.

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It was the original homestead.

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It would have been originally a thatched cottage in the early years, but it's gone.

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This is where your great-grandfather and great-uncle lived?

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Yeah. And my grandfather.

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Have you known about this long, Cormac?

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-Yesterday.

-THEY LAUGH

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'It's a learning experience for both Cormac and Fiona,

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'helped greatly by the documents

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'their father gathered over many years.'

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'And a distant relative has unveiled another piece of history.

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'A boat named after their great-uncle.'

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This is the famous boat you've been telling me about?

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Yes. This is a cousin of ours and a grand-nephew of Patrick Ryan.

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-Pleased to meet you, sir.

-This is Julie.

-Julie.

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This is the boat I've been hearing about?

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This is the boat, yes.

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It was named Saint Patrick after Patrick Ryan,

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who was lost on the Titanic.

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The interesting thing is the man who commissioned to build the boat

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was trained as a draughtsman in Harland and Wolff in Belfast.

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He's been doing the same job for 100 years.

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And it was named after the man that was lost,

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Patrick Ryan, on the Titanic.

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-It's amazing, isn't it?

-Yes.

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Will it be ready for these two to go out in it this year?

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-That it is, yeah.

-THEY LAUGH

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If we dare.

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Would you have known much about the court case we are learning about now?

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No. There was very little known about Patrick Ryan

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other than he was lost on the Titanic.

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Even my own father wouldn't have been born for four years

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after his uncle was lost.

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And we grew up, we knew very little.

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'But what we do know is that it was early April 1912

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'when Patrick and his three friends decided to leave their home

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'for the first leg of their Titanic journey.

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'Their initial destination was Queenstown in County Cork,

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'now called Cobh.

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'Cormac and Fiona have come with me

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'to find out about Patrick's last hours in Ireland.

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'When the four would-be emigrants arrived in the town,

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'they stayed here, at McDonald's boarding house.'

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And this is where Patrick would have stayed the night?

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That's right. This is where he would have stayed.

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That was the usual thing when they...

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Maybe 12, 24 hours beforehand,

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they came into town and they took lodgings and stayed.

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They would have been sailing the following morning.

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On that, you see, the tender used to blow one blast

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for them to come down.

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This would have been the last bed...?

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That they would have slept in before they left shore.

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'It would have been an early start

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'for Patrick and his friends on 11th April, 1912.

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'They joined dozens of others praying for a safe passage

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'at Mass in St Colman's Cathedral.

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'Afterwards, they made the short walk down

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'to the town's White Star Line offices.

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'Somewhere among the hundreds of third-class passengers

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'crammed on the pier is Patrick.

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'Looking down on him, first and second-class travellers

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'have a relaxed wait in more spacious surroundings.

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'The tender which ferried passengers to Titanic took an hour.

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'Cormac and Fiona are making that same journey.'

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So that would have been Patrick's last view of Ireland.

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What do you think was going through his head?

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Oh, I'd say...it must have been a mixture of excitement

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and obviously, sadness. There had to be sadness involved.

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He knew he was going on a big adventure.

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He thought he was going to have a great life in America.

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And he was doing a historic journey

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because he was on the maiden voyage of this massive Titanic.

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He didn't know things were going to turn out this way.

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He was excited about leaving and sad at the same time.

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It's kind of hard to imagine the two together.

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In hindsight, if he had known what was coming,

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he wouldn't have got on the boat.

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'Cobh has said farewell to countless Irish emigrants.

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'And the memory of those long goodbyes are kept safe

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'by today's seafarers.'

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And they lit a fire on the headlands

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at the time they were saying goodbye to everyone.

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And each headland on the way down has a watch-over tower.

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So the fires continued all the way down.

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-They used to do that for funerals, as well.

-That's right.

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-It was like a wake, in some respects.

-Yeah.

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And would there have been many people on the dock in Cobh to say goodbye?

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Oh, yeah.

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Would there have been like a party atmosphere or very sombre?

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I'd say it was probably sombre.

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It would have been a party in some way because there was an excitement

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because it was a new life for a lot of people.

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It was sad for people left behind,

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but for people who were heading out, it was a new adventure.

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There was a lot of sadness there, as well.

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I wonder, did he think that maybe he would be coming back at some stage?

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Because he was going over to a career,

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he was going to be a police officer.

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Would he have saved up enough money to come home?

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-Yeah.

-Or would he have bothered?

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-Who knows?

-He was still very young.

-Yeah.

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I kind of feel a bit more of a sense of history, as well,

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but I also feel kind of...

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Dad would have been... He would have been really...

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I'd say he would've been kind of sad as well,

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to have been standing here, looking at this and thinking about

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his relatives and how they would've felt.

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It must have been... I don't know, I think it's nice.

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It's lovely to have been here and seen this.

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'In the 100 years after the famine, Cobh Harbour was the departure point

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'for nearly half of the 6 million Irish people

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'who emigrated to America.

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'Many of them chose to travel with the company

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'behind some of the biggest ships ever built.'

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The White Star Line building is still here today.

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In 1912, its red and white flag

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was the equivalent of the Virgin Airlines or BA logo of its day.

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Its colours told travellers they were about to set sail

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with the greatest and safest shipping company in the world.

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'The rest, of course, is history.

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'It wasn't a ticket to a better life in America,

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'but to a life-or-death struggle onboard the stricken liner,

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'400 miles off the coast of Newfoundland.

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'A struggle that's remembered at this heritage centre.'

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I suppose in the scheme of things, four from Askeaton

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out of 123 altogether from southern Ireland is a lot.

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-It is, yes.

-Practically unsinkable and absolutely fireproof.

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THEY LAUGH

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'The names of all who left Queenstown

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'on that fateful journey are recorded here.'

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She obviously survived because there's no cross beside her name.

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-Patrick Ryan.

-Patrick Ryan.

-Yeah.

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Oh, Lord.

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It's very eerie to think that he was in here

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and left from here.

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-Arrived here in Cobh.

-Yeah.

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And was offered this date.

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-See under that name?

-Yes.

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So then they didn't know if it was right that he had died or not.

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I got a chill crossing the road when we were going to that boarding house.

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It was nearly like he was there with us.

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Patrick and Dad, guiding us along.

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Yesterday, we learned Patrick knew people in Cobh in the customs house.

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-I never knew that.

-That customs guy, I think, was a Limerick man.

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He was. And he went on the tender out with them and put them on the Titanic

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and asked the staff to look after them.

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-For someone to say, "You look after this person. He's my friend."

-Yes.

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-It's comforting, in a way.

-It is comforting. Yeah.

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'But there was no comfort for Patrick Ryan's father, Thomas.

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'He left his home in County Limerick to go to the High Court in London

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'to sue the people who owned White Star Line,

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'the Oceanic Steam Navigation company.'

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'There had already been two enquiries

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'that had cleared them from any blame for the disaster,

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'but Thomas Ryan could not and did not accept that.'

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'To find out more about this remarkable court case,

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'we went to the National Library in Dublin

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'to see how the newspapers of the day reported it.'

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-This is your first time here?

-Yeah.

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It's amazing. I've never been before.

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The public record office...

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Action against White Star Company.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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What's the next reading?

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"Irish emigrant, relatives sue for damages."

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Oh, right. Take a look at that.

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The case of Thomas Ryan was taken first.

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-So that's your great-grandfather.

-Our great-grandfather.

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-To actually see his name on paper.

-Yeah.

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"Mr Scanlan, opening the pleadings, said the plaintiff, Thomas Ryan,

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"brought the action for the benefit of himself

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"as father of Patrick Ryan, deceased."

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It says there Patrick was 27.

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Did we know...? I thought he was older than that.

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It was hard to determine what age he was because of the census.

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Back then they changed ages because there was conscription.

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"Mr Duke, for the defendant, said his case was that

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"there had been all proper and ordinary and reasonable care."

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So they were denying it, basically, weren't they?

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'The court was told that April was a treacherous time

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'to take a ship to America because of the danger of icebergs.'

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Asked why the iceberg wasn't discovered sooner,

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a witness had said there was no wind,

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the sea was quite smooth, there was no moon

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and the iceberg must have come on them

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with its black side against them.

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-So there would be no reflected light.

-Oh, right.

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'But those steering the ship had been warned there was danger ahead.

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'Thomas Ryan's legal team had evidence to show

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'that five ships had sent Marconi messages

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'warning there was ice in the area.

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'Though the court could only be sure

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'three had been seen by responsible officers.

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-What does that say?

-The old story retold.

-Retold.

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"The action by Thomas Ryan, a Cork farmer, against..."

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-Cork farmer!

-Yeah.

-I'm going to have to take issue with that.

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I don't think so.

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-Look, it says there defendants denied any negligence.

-My God!

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How could they be so bold as to say there was no negligence?

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'And during the hearing, it was revealed

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'that despite the warnings of ice,

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'Titanic still didn't slow down.'

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'Although they saw the berg 500 yards away,

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'they were unable, owing to the speed of the ship,

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'to deflect it so as to pass safely by.

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'What was their excuse for not reducing speed?'

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'The jury agreed that they had no excuse.'

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Here. Look, Titanic judgements.

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"The jury found that there had been negligence

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-"as to the speed of the Titanic."

-Oh, right. OK.

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So that's the main point, isn't it?

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'But White Star Line still refused

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'to admit responsibility for Patrick's death,

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'highlighting their terms and conditions.'

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There's talk about this ticket that they were on as well.

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Whether the defendants in Ryan's case were exempt from liability

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owing to the conditions of the emigrant ticket.

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'This was White Star Line's defence.

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'Two small words at the bottom of the ticket

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'which told the owner to turn it over.

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'On the back was a disclaimer that no matter what happened,

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'the company would not be responsible.

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'However, a brother of Patrick's travelled to the High Court

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'to explain why the company couldn't use that defence.'

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And he said that his brother had never seen the ticket.

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It was a joint ticket for two friends and himself.

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The jury found against the defendant,

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so found against White Star Line in the Ryan case.

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-It's amazing, isn't it?

-Isn't it?

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"Judgement for £100 damages

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"was yesterday, in the London King's Bench, given to Mr Thomas Ryan,

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-"a Cork farmer..."

-Yes!

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"..in his action against the Oceanic Steam Navigation company

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"for the loss of his son in the Titanic disaster."

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That's not much, is it, £100? How much would that have been then?

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-I don't know.

-It would have been a lot of money, but it's...

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-But for the loss of a life.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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'A case of very great importance' was how it was described at the time.

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But how is it seen now?

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He was an unlikely person to be the one

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taking on this great company, wasn't he?

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Well, he was unlikely

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in the sense that he was an elderly farmer from County Limerick.

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But my guess is that the lawyers were fairly shrewd

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in that they picked a case that they felt they could win

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because they had two aspects to it.

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They had the negligence aspect, but they also had, if you like,

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the plan B, that the disclaimer wasn't going to be of any benefit.

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So they wanted to immediately knock down the whole issue of the ticket

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so that the disclaimer was of no value whatsoever.

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The Morans and Patrick Ryan were third-class passengers.

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So they were really fairly low down the pecking order.

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And this ticket was a three-way ticket.

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It wasn't an individual ticket.

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The fact it transpired that Patrick probably had never seen the ticket

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and therefore, for the disclaimer to be effective at all,

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it needs to have been demonstrated

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that the person against whom the disclaimer is being used

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must be aware of the disclaimer.

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It's a bit like going into a car park

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and the disclaimer sign's up that, er,

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if you park your car here, the owner of the car park

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isn't liable for any damage to the car or if it's broken into.

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But those signs need to be in full view for them to be effective.

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'The Ryan case was also significant because it was a class action

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'that paved the way for other families to make claims for damages.

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'To this day, we don't know how many of them received payments.'

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'For Cormac and Fiona, there's just one final stop on their journey.

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'They've come to Belfast to see where the story started.

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'And it's here at the new Titanic Belfast attraction

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'that Harland and Wolff built their 401st ship.'

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-Would this represent the actual size of the Titanic?

-Yeah.

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This would be slipway number two.

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What we'll have here will be an outline of the deck of the Titanic.

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The Titanic would have run here from the water's edge

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all the way back up to New Titanic Belfast.

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15,000 workers a day would have been coming into Harland and Wolff.

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And 2,500 to 3,000 of them would have been here,

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working on slipways two and three on the Titanic and Olympic.

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This building, the size of it,

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is it any representation to the size of the Titanic?

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Yeah. The angle hulls that you see there

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is the same height as the Titanic would have sat here 100 years ago.

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As you stand there and look up,

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you're seeing what the workers would have seen every day.

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Just that fantastic height of the Titanic.

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Shortly after 12pm on May 21st, 1911,

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thousands of people all along the piers here were coming down

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and a flare went up and they released the anchors on the Titanic.

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There was no breaking of champagne.

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The White Star Line never broke champagne on their ships.

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It took her 63 seconds to slide down the slipways. So she would have been at an angle.

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There's 20 tonnes of oil, grease and soap used to lubricate the slipways.

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She'd been sitting there for two years,

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so she probably got into a fairly comfortable state.

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Ultimately, if the Titanic hadn't sunk,

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-we wouldn't be standing here today.

-That's right.

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And it's a very poignant thing to think that I'm employed

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due to the sinking of the Titanic.

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I suppose what you have to look at,

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out of every disaster that happens, something comes out of it.

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It gives us an opportunity to reflect on the disaster and the people that died

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and also reflect on the work that was done here.

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I know that when I came to see you and your father last year,

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he had said that he would really have loved to have gone to Belfast.

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What do you think he would have made of this?

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I think he would have loved to come to Belfast.

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He would have loved to have seen where it all started.

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The sheer size of it. He would have had so many questions.

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Questions we couldn't think of because, you know,

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he would have loved it. Loved it.

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It's like a jigsaw.

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Coming up here is another little part of this jigsaw that's fitting into place.

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We're up where the actual Titanic itself was built.

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This kind of... It adds to the whole mystery of Patrick Ryan himself.

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I'm where the story started and ultimately finished up.

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For me it's been a history lesson, really. A massive history lesson.

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This has just captured my imagination.

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The family are gobsmacked with the fact that this has happened

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and that it has come to light 100 years after it happened.

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It's just... It's amazing stuff.

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Titanic to me now is personal. It's not just a story.

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It's not just a ship that sank. It's personal. It's part of us now.

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It's part of our heritage and a part of our history.

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It's not something that we will ever forget.

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And it's not something we will ever take for granted again.

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Titanic is a big story, but it's our story.

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