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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting | 0:00:02 | 0:00:09 | |
It was May 7th, 1981. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
I'd seen the advertisements about this new video cassette recorder machine... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
so I bought one. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
The news came on, and I hits record. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
It sort of dawned on me, "This is the first draft of history." | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
And I kept it. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
And then the next night, doing the next night's news, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
and then the next night's news. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
There was something about me had to record all this violence | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
and explosions and bombs and killings and funerals... | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
..that just grew and grew and grew over the years. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It's the best private collection in Ireland. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
If you were watching it 24 hours a day, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
it would take you 83 days to watch it all. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Primarily, it's a history, and it's a history of | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
what the people of Northern Ireland suffered | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
since, in this case, 1981. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
This is it, this is the individual families' suffering over 30 years. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:55 | |
A lot of the news reports would have maybe only been a minute long, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
about a death, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
or two or three deaths sometimes there was a bulletin on, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
and that's how immune we had become here to that, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
it was an everyday occurrence. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
But for those families, that minute on the news was possibly | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
the destruction of that family, and the psychological | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
damage and trauma that was done to the survivors in that family. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
To date, now, I think there'd be over 2,000 hours recorded. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
One of the strange things about this, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
out of all that collection, I don't have my own. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
I have all them other people, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
but I haven't got coverage of mine. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
OK, then. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
-OK. -I found the tape. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Clifton Park Avenue. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
OK. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
"26-year-old man seriously wounded | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
"after being shot at through glass door of his living room. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
"His father, visiting at the time, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
"collapsed of a heart attack at the front doorstep and later died." | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
-"House with..." -"G/V's house..." | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
-"..house, with army patrol passing by." -Have a look at, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
Yes. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
That's my house, there. Just where he's passing. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
It's amazing, it looks very normal | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
yet our family was in devastation. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
No sound with it? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Hmm. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
I was expecting it to be maybe a longer bulletin, maybe have other... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-There seem to be not very many stories from that date. -Yes. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
-But... -There's something there. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
-There's something there? -Something that we can get dubbed across. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Would you do that for me? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
-We could put it onto... You could have it on a... -DVD? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
DVD, or if you had a pen I could put it on a digital file. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-Do it on a DVD and then... -DVD. -..I can copy that. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
Strange to see it. It's funny. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
When I get my own disc back home, and a look at it 100 times, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
maybe I'll start to analyse every little detail of things, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
whether the hedge was cut or whatever. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Thursday, September 27th, 1979. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
I was playing with my youngest daughter, Louise, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and the doorbell rang. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
My wife got up, walked to the door | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and the next thing I heard was this almighty squeal, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
"Gunmen, gunmen!" | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
As she came into the room, this man had her by the back of the hair, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
he had a hood up and a gun in his right hand... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
TWO GUNSHOTS | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
..and then the next thing I remember is going up in the air. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
A second gunman in the hall had shot me through the door. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
AMBULANCE SIREN | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
When the ambulance men came into that wee back room, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
they couldn't get the trolley in, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
so they put me in a body bag to carry me to the ambulance. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
My father arrived at the door, seen me in the body bag | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
and his last words were, "Oh, my poor Peter." | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
He dropped dead of a heart attack at the scene. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
To die as he did was just so shocking. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
We don't give enough time in this great, new, Northern Ireland | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
to those that suffered the trauma, because that is in families, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
that has gone to wives, that has gone to the parents, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
that has gone down to children in some areas. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Part of recovering from it all, part of dealing with it in your mind, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
is to actually look at an event. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
People would contact me to say | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
could they have a copy of the news of a particular day? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
I would imagine it's quite devastating for them to see that. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
I will send it to them with a health warning in it, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
that make sure you have somebody with you when you're watching this, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
if you haven't seen this before. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
4-4-0. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
This is an incident requested by Brian Thompson. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
It happened on the 29th July, 1993, on the M2 motorway. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:44 | |
Brian's friend, Joe McLarnon, was driving along the motorway | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
when he broke down, and Brian was asked to come and rescue him. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
When he arrived at the spot, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
gunmen from the Red Hand Commando came by and opened fire on them. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
Brian wanted to see how it was recovered on the news. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I've known Peter for a while now, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
and I was told that the name he got was Hawkeye, basically, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
cos he apparently hokes out and watches every detail | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
of everything that's happening. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
I particularly wanted to see the car I was in, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
cos I got glimpses of it and I know there's a lot of big holes in it | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
where the bullets went through. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
This is of the incident... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
One night, Joe's wife came over to me | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
and asked me would I go out and help him, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
he had broken down on the motorway. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
I was sitting waiting in the car and Brian pulled up. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
He put the rope on, started the car, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
so I just turned round to the kids | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
and told them we should get the seat belts on. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
As I walked away, this white Ford Orion pulled up | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
and the shooting started. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Joe was shot in the left arm and shot in the back. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
I got him out of the car, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
and there was this river of blood pouring out of his arm. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
I told him, "Just put your thumb on that," | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
and I didn't even stop for red lights, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
I just got to the Mater Hospital as quickly as possible. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
REPORTER: '...a car had broken down, and was being towed away when a | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
'silver Orion car drew alongside, and a gunman opened fire. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
'The man lives in the mainly Protestant | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
'Graymount area in north Belfast. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
'The loyalist paramilitary group, the Red Hand Commando, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
'said it was responsible for the attack.' | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
That's the first time I've seen the car since 20, well, 19 years. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
That's the first time I've seen that. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-That's what I wanted to see... -That brought memories and all... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:17 | |
Yeah... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
I never seen the bullet holes on it, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
never seen anything like that until today. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Just let loose, so he did, with a machine gun. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
How you only got hit twice, I don't know. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
-Never leaves you, sure it doesn't? -No. -No. -Never. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Nightmares about it. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
If I hadn't have phoned him, his life would probably be sweet! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
The thing, is, Joe, if you can't do a buddy a good turn, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
you could only do them a bad turn. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
I would probably have done the exact same. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
You probably would have, yes. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
-But don't ever phone me again! -No! | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
The mental injury thing is a very difficult thing to handle, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
because people look at you and they can't see anything wrong with you. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
they look at me and they can see something wrong and they accept it | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
but sometimes people with trauma cases like that | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
are treated worse because everybody thinks they're swinging the lead, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
but sometimes when you talk to these people you know they're | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
stuck in that wee part of their life that's been devastating. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
You couldn't live with me. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
I was grumpy, I was moody, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
I was violent and my kids seen all that. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
That's messed my kids up all my life. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
After the shooting, my wife started drinking. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
She ended up an alcoholic. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Her health is just...she's not... | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Her whole body, everything's just away. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
She just drank and drank and drank. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Her lungs, liver, everything. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Life from then on just completely changed. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
I was a different me altogether, so I was. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Brian was a good laugh, very bubbly and all, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
a good sense of humour. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
But after the shooting he got really, really depressed. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
I mean, he does my head in, like, sometimes, but... | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
Yeah, it's just... If I'd have seen him, my head would probably... | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
Brian is in a bad way, like... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
yeah, big-time. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
People will say to you, "Look, can you not forget about it, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
"and just move on with your life?" | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
You can move on with your life OK, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
but that's still in your head. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Always be in your head. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
You're seeing... You go to bed at night, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
when I go into bed at night, there there's war in my bedroom, every night. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
MACHINE GUN FIRE | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I was in hospital for 50 weeks. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
When I got out, the world was so different. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
It was just...it was just horrendous. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Every bit of me felt...not like a man. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
You hate yourself... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
hate the gunmen, hate everything, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
you know, you go through this whole internal anger, frustration, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
all those words, all of them in one big pile inside your soul, you know. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
And the job is to get beyond that. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
What pulled me around was the family support I got. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
It was devastating for my wife, we were only married seven years, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I was no longer the man she'd married. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
You know, to her eternal credit she stayed with me, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
and I love her dearly for that. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
It was my family, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
my children that still climbed up and gave me a hug, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
"Daddy, we love you." | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
All that just made you, "Right, that's it. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
"I'm not going to gurn here any more." | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
'Video cassette recorders, | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
'machines capable of recording television sound and pictures | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
'in the domestic and the industrial environment...' | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
After I got the criminal injuries award, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I'd seen advertisements about this new video cassette recorder machine. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-PRESENTER: -'This year we look like spending more...' | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
I thought, "Oh, that's fantastic. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
"Look what that can do, you can actually record TV programmes." | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
I bought it. It was May 7th, 1981. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
The news came on and I hits record. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
And the news that night was the funeral of Bobby Sands. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
Being a history teacher, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
it sort of dawned on me, "This is the first draft of history." | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
And I just started doing that every night, recording the news. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
It was just like a religious fervour to record history. | 0:15:53 | 0:16:00 | |
PIANO MUSIC | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
I'm a wee bit OCD about it. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
It's given me a new lease of life, in many ways. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
This is an incident from 21st October, 1991. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
A taxi driver called Alex Bunting was picking up a fare on Sandy Row | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
and the IRA had left a booby-trap bomb under his car. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Alex's wife, Linda, and the family | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
wanted to see how this was covered on the news. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Let go, son. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
Right, coming? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
It was 21st October, 1991, that the incident happened. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
I was 37 years of age. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
I picked up a lady on the Ballysillan Road, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
and we drove down into the town. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
When I got as far as the brow of the Boyne Bridge, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
there was this almighty flash coming out of the dash, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
and it was like a rainbow of colours. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
A split second later, the bang, and the next thing my leg shot off. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:26 | |
I was blew out the door. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
-MAN: -'There's a body lying on the street behind me here. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
'A young chap, seems to have definitely lost a leg.' | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
-REPORTER: -'The injured driver is a Protestant in his 40s, from | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
'the Westland area of North Belfast, and is married with two children. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
'It's believed his car was left...' | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Alec was out working from six o'clock in the morning | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
to six at night, taxiing, and we were saving well, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
and we were planning to, you know, a wee deposit for a house... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
They were the good days. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
..and we went on holiday, our first holiday together, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
and we were only back from holiday three weeks when Alec was blew up. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Just that day completely changed our whole lives. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
As I was travelling to school that morning, I seen the car. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
I was only ten at the time. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
I can remember the bus being rerouted | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and at the bottom where that bar is there on the Sandy Row... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Hope Street. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
..Hope Street, and my daddy's car was just sitting in pieces... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
..complete pieces. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
The next day after the explosion happened, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
I went in with my mum, and he was sort of semi-conscious. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
I asked my mum, you know... He was quite aware, one or two... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
His legs, he knew he'd lost and he didn't know. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
And I suppose that's... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
I was looking forward to him coming home, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and then when he got home it was just... Whoa! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
I wasn't a very nice person to live with, I was very grumpy, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
I was very argumental, nothing was good enough and all this. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
It was just, at the time, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
I was just angry, an angry man. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
If you'd have made him a dinner... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
And he got to a stage, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
he didn't want the dinner and he was swiping it off the table, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
and I sort of way got to the stage, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
I said, "We're not going to be together if this is going to go on." | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
He would get fixated on things, you know... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
if his TV broke, right, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
or he phoned me one night and he says to me, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
"You'd better get down here, my Sky's not working." | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I lived 14 miles away. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
So, I got in my car, because I knew he was torturing my mum that much | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
about the Sky not working, I had to drive down to Bangor from Belfast. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
I got down, and the batteries in the remote control needed changed, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
but he tortured her that much, that she... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
I mean it was unbelievable. She was ready to walk out the door. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
You lift the bag, and walk out the door and walk round the corner... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
I got on the train, do you remember the day we got on the train? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Me and Colin, we got to the train station, I got on the train to | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
go to Belfast, and I'd never been on the train in I don't know how long, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
and I don't even know where I got off - | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
I think it was Botanic Gardens or somewhere like that - | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and me and him just stood in the train station crying. Here's me, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
"I don't even know where we are, Colin." I couldn't think! | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
The thing that got me most was that I couldn't provide for my family, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and I couldn't be the person that I was, you know what I mean? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
And I thought that life was over for me, basically. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
I heard this noise in the kitchen and I ran down the stairs to see, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
I thought Alec had fallen, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
and when I walked into the kitchen he had taken an overdose. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
And... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
I phoned the ambulance for him, for it to come, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
and I was so angry that...for what he had come through, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
I just was mad at him, I was shouting at him, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
"After all them doctors have done for you, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
"and you're going to take the easy way out." | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
As much as he had his struggles, we had ours. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
You know, the man that went out the door at five to eight in the morning never came back | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
and we had to get used to this other man that did come back, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
but we also had to deal with the physical | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
and psychological impact of what happened. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
And I think, then, I had a mum who was clinging on with her | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
fingernails to try and keep everything together. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I was actually having nightmares | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and seeing my daddy's leg being blown over his head... | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
Just was a horrible, horrible feeling. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Colin just didn't cope. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
He took epilepsy, and the bad depression he took was terrible. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
We went through a stage, like, I thought I was going insane, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
cos he was texting me, "Where are you?" "How long will you be?" | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
People don't realise that you've to | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
go on the rest of your life like this. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
In terms of my brother, I mean, if I say what I truly feel, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
what I truly feel is that my mother has enabled him | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
to be where he's at, in some ways, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
and that's maybe hard for them both to hear, but... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
giving into him, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
enabling him not to have to work, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
supporting him financially, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
all that type of stuff. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
I don't think it's done him any favours. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
My aim from day one - I would not let that destroy my family. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:10 | |
Sometimes you feel like walking away, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
but you know you'll not be going, you know what I mean? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
The love was too great there for anything like that to happen, you know? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
I can only assume how people see what I give them is very sad, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
but on the other hand, it's like a closing. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
Maybe actually seeing it helps in some way. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
As Northern Ireland does get better, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
we're in danger of forgetting that this new Northern Ireland was built | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
on so much suffering and pain and loss, and we should never do that. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
Losing Anne for me was worse than losing the use of my legs. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
One of the sad things was that, mentally, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
she worse affected than me by my shooting and that. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
She never complained to me, she never moaned to me. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
But obviously, it all built up on her. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
It was about, I suppose five years after the event, the first time, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
when she overdosed and was taken into the City Hospital | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
and her psychiatrist said to me, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
"Peter, she just has lost the ability to cope." | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
From that moment on, she would have started to drink too much. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
Anne never forgave herself for opening the door that night. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
"I should never have opened the door. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
"I should never have opened the door." | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
But, I mean, what can you say? | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
They'd have kicked the door in, they'd have got in. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Somebody would have opened it some way, but she never forgave herself. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
It was her - she opened the door, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
he grabbed her by the hair and pushed her up the hall, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
the first gunman that came in, and she squealed - | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
that's a sign of bravery. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
This guy's standing with a gun to her head, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
she was able to squeal a warning to me. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
But I couldn't emphasise to her how brave she was, you know, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
in shouting a warning, in defying him, in trying to wriggle free, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
you know, it just never got through. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
That was so, so sad, you know, really. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
She was worse affected than me | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
yet her and people like her are not really recognised, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
not considered a statistic of the Troubles. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
All we want is a simple recognition that in this community, so many | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
of us suffered, and some of us still live with our wounds every day. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
When I hear people say, "Oh, we'll just draw a line under it | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
"and we'll all get on with the future." | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
"That's OK," I says, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
"well, will I get up the marra and walk about, then? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
"Will I get my daddy back? Will them people get their relatives back?" | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
I'm all for the future and a shared future | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
but I don't think you should ever forget the past. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
What was it? The Queen put it very well - | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
"Remember the past, but don't be bound by it." | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Do you think you're bound by it? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
What do you think? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
I'm not sure. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
I'm not sure, either. That makes two of us. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
It's basically a labour of love for me. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
It is like a job, it feels like a job. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Five, six hours a day... | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Part of the work is transferring the VHS to DVD. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
I itemise each day, go through each news report, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
I put it in a separate little icon, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
and then write the note for that day, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
the station, the time, what the story was. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
So, that takes probably four to five hours to do two hours. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
It's never ending. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 |