Wales in Australia with Huw Edwards


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For 225 years, Welsh people have been making the long journey

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to start new lives in Australia.

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It's not hard to see why,

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especially when you swap the Welsh winter for the Australian summer.

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We know that Australia over the years has tempted

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so many Welsh people to leave home,

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to settle in a very different country and to prosper.

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Well, I'm on my first visit to Australia and I'm on the trail

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of those Welsh migrants past and present, who played a surprisingly

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significant role in shaping the story of this great nation.

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'It's a wonderfully unexpected journey that takes me through

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some of the most beautiful landscape that Australia has to offer...

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'..to meet Welshmen who came here in chains...

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'..and others who came here looking for gold.'

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-Wow, can we call that Welsh gold?

-Of course we can.

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'We meet a Welsh street cleaner and poet,

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'some very Welsh entrepreneurs.'

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-Brecwast, please.

-Brecwast, OK.

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'And an eminent politician...'

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-Prime Minister.

-Hello, Huw. Lovely to meet you.

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'..as well as some of the most recent Welsh arrivals

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'who have come to try their luck down under.'

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BRASS BAND PLAYS "WALTZING MATILDA"

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Today is a fitting opportunity for all of us to reflect

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on what it means to be an Australian citizen.

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'It's a beautiful sunny Sydney morning and I've come to the suburb

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'of Manly Beach to witness a citizenship ceremony.

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'After six years in the country,

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'Welsh construction manager Ioan Morgan, his wife Naomi

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'and their children Rhys and Erin, have decided to become Australians.'

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Now, if you would repeat after me,

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I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people.

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-ALL:

-I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people.

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Ioan is a fiercely proud Welshman

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but thanks to the opportunities on offer,

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he has no worries about taking this momentous step.

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'The work that I'm doing now is phenomenal.

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'In Australia if they see that you're serious about being here

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'and you're happy to work hard and be a part of society,

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'people will support and welcome you extremely well.

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Ioan Tudor Morgan.

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Rhys Terry Morgan.

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And Naomi Anne Morgan.

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Welsh families like the Morgans are the most recent chapter

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in the story of the Welsh in Australia -

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a story that goes back to 1770,

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when Captain Cook claimed the eastern part of this vast continent

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for Britain and named it New South Wales.

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The first Welsh settlers began arriving 18 years later in 1788

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in the port we now know as Sydney.

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But few of them had made that long journey of their own free will.

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They were criminals,

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transported here on the first fleets of convict ships from Britain.

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Many of them had been sentenced to spend the rest of their lives

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in Australia.

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'I've come to Sydney Harbour to talk to Shirley Collis,

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'who's traced her own family history

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'back to one of those early Welsh convicts.

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'Shirley suggested we meet on Circular Quay,

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'a significant landmark in the story of those first settlers.'

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So where are we here, Shirley? How does this place fit into the story?

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Well, this is Sydney Cove

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and this, over here, is where the convicts would have landed.

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-That side?

-And all of this would have been open space.

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The only sign of human occupation

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would have been the Aboriginal people fishing in little boats and whatnot,

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maybe a fire, smoke going up, every headland would have been

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heavily wooded. They swing round here into the bay and they drop anchor.

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Shirley's Welsh ancestor, Ann Smith,

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was only 20 when she arrived in the penal colony in 1804.

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At the time, the convicts weren't imprisoned

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but lived mostly in tents and huts on the hill above the harbour

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in the district now known as The Rocks.

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Many of the women had been sent to the colony

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as little more than breeding stock.

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Without protection,

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the majority ended up turning to prostitution to survive.

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So it was probably no bad thing that only four months after she landed,

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Ann Smith walked into Sydney's first church, St Philips,

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on the arm of a fellow convict.

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You can see here both of them were technically illiterate.

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Ann Smith, her mark. Robert Bolton, his mark. November 3rd, 1804.

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Where was Ann from? Have you found out where she came from in Wales?

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She came from Brecon.

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She was arrested for stealing household goods, mostly clothing,

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breaking and entering the house.

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She could have been sentenced to death but she got seven years instead

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and transportation to New South Wales.

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Here's a tricky question.

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Some people might think that fact, having convicts in your background,

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is something to be, I don't know, slightly embarrassed about or even,

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for some people, maybe ashamed about.

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Does that exist, that feeling, or not?

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It did when I first started my family research in 1974

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but it doesn't any more.

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People are now proud, interested.

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They want to know what their background is, want to know where they came from.

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Anyone looking at you today, Shirley, will realise

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you've got plenty of Welsh emblems, which is great to see.

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Why is that important for you to hold on to that sense of identity?

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Australia is a very, very polyglot nation.

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Our people have come from all over the land but we need to know where we've come from.

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We need to know what our heritage is. The Welsh blend in.

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They don't carry on.

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They don't make a song and dance about being Welsh

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-but it's there and, what's the word, Hiraeth?

-Hiraeth.

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You know, when I listen to Welsh music when I hear a choir in full,

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quite often I've got tears in my eye.

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Something happens within me that says I am Welsh.

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Ann Smith and her husband Robert

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did pretty well out of transportation.

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They did their time, they had a family

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and ended up with land and property,

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but they were definitely among the lucky ones.

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My next destination is the island of Tasmania,

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1,000 kilometres south of Sydney.

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I'm heading for Port Arthur to explore one of the darkest chapters

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of the transportation story

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and to find out about one particularly famous Welshman

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who survived the ordeal.

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Today Tasmania is known for its pristine landscapes,

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its dramatic coastline,

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its nature reserves,

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and its status as an ideal holiday destination.

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But back in the early 19th century,

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Port Arthur was the maximum high security prison camp

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for the toughest convicts,

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and when they stepped off the ship on this jetty

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they were setting foot, not in Tasmania as we call it today,

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but in a dark place known then as Van Diemen's Land.

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Remote and inaccessible and guarded by attack dogs,

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this was a labour camp from which the inmates were set to

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work in forests and quarries and mines.

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It was run by the military, and prisoners were constantly

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under threat of vicious corporal punishment.

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Among the thousands sent here was a Welsh revolutionary

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by the name of Zephaniah Williams.

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Williams was one of the leaders of the Chartist Movement,

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a radical 19th-century campaign demanding social equality.

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He was sentenced to death

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for his role in a large demonstration in Newport.

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He escaped the noose but instead was transported to Port Arthur.

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David Martin Jones is a Welsh historian based in Australia

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with a particular interest in Zephaniah Williams

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and his remarkable story.

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David explained how the Port Arthur authorities decided to take

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advantage of Williams' experience and posted him up country

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with the unenviable task of controlling a remote coal mine

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at a place called Saltwater River.

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So what happens to Williams while he's here?

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Basically, he's in charge of 30 convict miners.

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Convict mining is tough work. It's nasty, it's dirty,

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and, you know, it's a kind of a punishment in itself,

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so those who are doing this job are always threatening to run away.

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The problem for Williams was,

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as the overseer, he was supposed to stop them running away.

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What happens is four of the convicts leg it into the bush.

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He, as a responsible overseer, chases after them.

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He catches up with them and they make him an offer he can't refuse -

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either you come with us or we'll kill you.

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He's taken with them a few miles into the bush.

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They then stuff him in a tree that's burnt out and run off.

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-He's got no food or water.

-They abandon him, basically?

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Abandon him, yeah.

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'Williams found himself in an impossible position.

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'When he finally made his way out of the wilderness and handed

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'himself over to the authorities, his account of events was ignored.'

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So what kind of punishment does he then face?

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We're talking about an intelligent man, well educated,

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subjected to being chained for two years doing hard labour,

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breaking rocks, locked to two murderers.

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And at night, he's taken to a special cell of six foot by four

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where he can hardly sleep and he's there for 16 weeks.

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And he still emerges from that and still rebuilds his life later on.

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He's a remarkably strong character.

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Strong, resilient, innovative...

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-Robust Welsh stock, I think.

-I think we can say that, yes.

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What fascinates me about this story is that after Williams was

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eventually released and then pardoned, he went on to become

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a successful entrepreneur in the Tasmanian coal industry.

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He arranged for his wife and his children to emigrate here

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from South Wales and encouraged 40 Welsh miners to make the journey

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with offers of work and land.

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Williams had come to Tasmania as a notorious criminal

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but when he passed away at the age of 80,

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he was a well known and prosperous settler.

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The first Welshmen who came to Australia of their own free will

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were mostly miners and the city they sailed to was Adelaide.

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I travelled there to the capital of South Australia,

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on the trail of those early immigrants

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and was delighted to discover there are still Welsh miners in Adelaide

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and they're keeping the home flag flying.

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# Pat a Janet ac Elsie a Glen

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# Pat a Janet ac Elsie a Glen

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# Pat a Janet ac Elsie a Glen. #

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-Helo, bore da.

-Bore da, sut ydych chi?

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-Huw Edwards. Neis i weld chi.

-A chithe.

-Yn Adelaide fan hyn.

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-'Wi ishe brecwast, plis.

-Brecwast, OK.

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'Charles Harris is a miner and quarryman from West Wales

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'and he and his wife Ann run a very distinctive coffee shop

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'in one of Adelaide's central suburbs.'

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A coffi. Flat white neu rhywbeth. Diolch yn fawr.

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-Iawn, dim problem.

-Diolch.

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# Yn llewys fy nghrys Caf wy, chips a pys

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# Ag wrth dalu y bill Mi gaf wen gan

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# Pat a Janet ac Elsie a Glen. #

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It's lovely to see you.

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I can't believe there's such a Welsh enclave in Adelaide.

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How did you end up here, Ann?

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It sort of started off...

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we moved to Australia about four and a half years ago

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and we were on a business visa and were looking for a new business,

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and we happened to be in here one day drinking coffee

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and got talking to the owner and he said the cafe was for sale,

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and we just sort of said, "OK, we might be interested," didn't we?

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We bought the place but needed to do something different

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because it was a bit rundown

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and, being from Wales, we thought, "Let's do a Welsh cafe."

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At what point, Ann, did you realise you had a success on your hands?

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The first day we actually opened

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somebody came in and asked for Welsh cakes

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and I said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I haven't got any Welsh cakes,

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"but we'll have some tomorrow," and it just came from there that

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they started asking for faggots and peas, and then somebody

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came in one day and said, "Oh, I bet you haven't got any laverbread?"

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-That is a challenge.

-Yeah. "Not at the moment."

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But we do actually sell laverbread now.

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We actually get laverbread and cockles in from Burry Port.

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-From Burry Port?

-Yes, yeah.

-I'm very pleased to hear it.

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-That's a very good part of the world.

-Yes, yes.

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Getting into the cafe business, it's been a challenge for us

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because I've never cooked, I never baked nothing in my life before

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and now I can turn breakfasts out in no time.

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You mean to say you're behind the counter cooking breakfasts?

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-For the first two years, yes, I was.

-I'm full of admiration. I really am.

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'Ann and Charles are in a long tradition of Welsh mining families

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'who have shown their ability to thrive

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'in the unfamiliar Australian climate.'

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I'm now on the road out of Adelaide, heading for a town called Burra.

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It's a pretty hot day and I'm on the trail of some of the first

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Welsh miners in Australia,

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tempted here by the demand for their expertise in the copper industry

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during the late 1840s.

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My driver and companion, Jason Shute,

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is a Welshman living in Adelaide

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and is an expert on this early group of Welsh settlers.

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This stretch we're on now, where are we heading to now, cos this is...?

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We're still heading up the old Bullock Dray Road

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from Adelaide to Burra itself.

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The conditions of that journey for them, what would they have been?

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Well, today we should have temperatures

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of about 32 degrees centigrade up in Burra itself.

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It's a lovely day but it was a wet season when they arrived.

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-That might have felt a bit Welsh to them, I don't know.

-Yeah.

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They really were going to the absolute limits of the Empire,

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if you like, at that time.

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-And that's where we're heading now?

-Towards Burra itself, yes.

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Today Burra is a beautifully preserved little Victorian town -

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a testament to the wealth generated by Burra's so-called Monster Mine,

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but Jason was keen to show me that back in the late 1840s, when the

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first Welsh miners arrived, the accommodation was rather different.

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We parked near a dry river bed above the town.

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What is significant about the place you've brought me to here?

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Well, we're standing in one of the tributary creeks to the

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Burra Creek itself and it's these water courses which flow

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well in winter that make a community possible in this arid

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-part of the world.

-They're drawn to the water, basically?

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Yes, that's got to support the community.

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As far as living is concerned, of course,

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there's not much in the way of accommodation, if anything at all.

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So what does a miner do?

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He takes his pick and shovel and he digs himself

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and his family a home

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and these dugouts which extend down these tributaries,

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along the Burra Creek for well over a mile are soon

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accommodating as many as 1,800 people.

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-They're living in these holes?

-In these holes.

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Men, women and children and indeed their animals -

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pigs, chickens, the lot.

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The first thing that strikes you, Jason,

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is the potential for enormous health problems.

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Well, that is a major drawback, of course,

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and typhoid is a problem and certainly infant mortality is

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very high while these dugouts are being used.

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In this state, it does look incredibly basic and barren

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and rather grim really, but I'm assuming it looked rather different

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when people actually lived in them?

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Yes, they did the best they could, certainly.

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Most of them were whitewashed inside,

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some of them even wallpapered and carpets on the floor as well.

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-One was certainly used as a hotel.

-One of these was used as a hotel?

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One of these, religious services were held in them, and the upside,

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of course, was coolness because you know now, coming in from the very

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-hot temperature out there, that this is very pleasant.

-Any snakes around?

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-We hope not. Maybe we should have looked first.

-I hope not!

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It's not top of my list of favourite things.

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I notice you are leading out! HUW LAUGHS

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From the miners' cave dwellings, Jason took me up to the site

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of the giant, Welsh-built copper works

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that once employed over 1,000 men and boys.

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We've only got footings to see now, unfortunately,

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but you get the perspective down there, 200 feet of workspace,

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rather grandly built classical facade.

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Too elegantly built, some said,

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compared with the works in the Swansea valley at the time -

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a chapel of industry.

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I know today isn't that hot for you because you're used to it.

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It's very hot for me and I'm just thinking, working near these

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furnaces in what could be extreme heat outside as well,

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I mean, the conditions must have been very difficult.

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Yes, here we are in about maybe 32 today and could you imagine it

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at 40 or 42 degrees in the temperature in the air

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and you're stood working before

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an absolutely broiling hot furnace there?

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And, of course, when some new men came

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they were just gawping at the experienced men

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standing before these furnaces, as Superintendant Thomas Williams said,

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"At the men melting before the furnaces."

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The heyday of copper at Burra was over only 20 years after it began,

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but it was the first of many occasions when the Welsh played

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a vital role in Australian mining,

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an industry that still makes a significant contribution

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to the Australian economy.

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From the state of South Australia,

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I'm heading to neighbouring Victoria and the grand city of Melbourne.

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Just a couple of years after the boom in Burra,

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Melbourne docks began welcoming a tidal wave of miners

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and fortune seekers from all over the globe,

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but these men weren't here for the copper.

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The majority of them, including men from all over Wales,

0:21:360:21:40

came off the ships and hit the road.

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The story of copper is significant,

0:21:440:21:46

but, believe me, it is nothing compared to what happens next.

0:21:460:21:51

Because the thing that transforms Australia,

0:21:510:21:54

the thing that turns everything upside down,

0:21:540:21:56

the thing that brings hundreds of thousands of people rushing here,

0:21:560:22:00

is the discovery of gold.

0:22:000:22:02

So I'm making my way North West from Melbourne,

0:22:020:22:06

deep into the state of Victoria.

0:22:060:22:09

I'm in my very comfortable air-conditioned car

0:22:090:22:13

and I'm thinking of thousands of Welsh migrants,

0:22:130:22:16

prospectors, making their way on foot,

0:22:160:22:20

in the heat and dust, through these very fields,

0:22:200:22:24

many of them making their way towards a town called Ballarat.

0:22:240:22:28

Ballarat's gold rush, rather vividly brought to life

0:22:430:22:47

here at the Sovereign Hill Museum,

0:22:470:22:49

is a pretty astonishing moment in history.

0:22:490:22:53

18 months after gold was discovered here,

0:22:530:22:55

the population grew from just a handful of people to 20,000

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and very quickly the creeks that flowed out of the Ballarat hills

0:23:000:23:05

were lined with rows of panhandlers.

0:23:050:23:07

So I decided to try my luck and give it a go.

0:23:100:23:13

-The trick to gold is its weight.

-Right.

0:23:140:23:16

-It's three-and-a-half times heavier than lead.

-Right.

0:23:160:23:19

So, mixed in with a lot of water, we get it really filled with water

0:23:190:23:24

and give it a swish like that.

0:23:240:23:26

All our gold will sink to the bottom.

0:23:260:23:28

To the bottom of the pan, OK.

0:23:280:23:30

So, we'll do that for a little while, just to get the water

0:23:300:23:33

-swishing through to make sure all that gold sits in the bottom.

-Yeah.

0:23:330:23:37

Now, when we get down to this amount here.

0:23:370:23:40

It's not what I'd call submersion

0:23:400:23:42

so if we're moving on an angle we move slowly forward

0:23:420:23:45

-and bring it back quickly in the water like that.

-OK, OK.

0:23:450:23:48

As you can see, all the larger rocks are coming out

0:23:480:23:52

and we're being left with the finest sand.

0:23:520:23:55

Yeah, got you.

0:23:550:23:57

So, these guys coming out here during the height of the rush,

0:23:570:24:00

some of them struck lucky. Lots of them, of course,

0:24:000:24:03

came here and I would imagine, they didn't really make it at all.

0:24:030:24:06

No, they said that one in ten made it rich,

0:24:060:24:08

and the other eight out of ten could make a living and survive,

0:24:080:24:13

find enough gold to keep going and one out of those ten also,

0:24:130:24:16

he'd be destitute, and then find nothing.

0:24:160:24:19

So it wasn't bad odds to make a living but not everyone

0:24:190:24:21

made it rich but a lot of people were able to support themselves.

0:24:210:24:25

Yeah, yeah.

0:24:250:24:26

-We have got that down to a small amount now.

-Yeah.

0:24:260:24:28

When we get to this point, I tend to use a circular motion.

0:24:280:24:32

If I bring the water around, just so it starts to remove the sand,

0:24:320:24:37

you can see there...

0:24:370:24:40

-Yes! Gosh, yes.

-There we go.

0:24:420:24:44

Wow!

0:24:440:24:45

-Can we call that Welsh gold?

-Of course we can!

0:24:450:24:48

Unmistakable.

0:24:490:24:51

-Not a bad little haul for one pan.

-Not a lot but more than I've got.

0:24:510:24:54

100 or 200 pans of that a day, and you'd be going all right.

0:24:540:24:59

By the end of the 1850s

0:25:010:25:04

there were around 2,000 Welsh men and women living in Ballarat.

0:25:040:25:09

They were part of an extraordinary melting pot

0:25:090:25:12

of Chinese people,

0:25:120:25:14

there were Americans too,

0:25:140:25:16

and Europeans, including plenty of English, Scots and Irish.

0:25:160:25:21

Very quickly the initially chaotic fields of tents

0:25:240:25:28

gave way to a busy industrial town,

0:25:280:25:30

awash with money... and ways of spending it.

0:25:300:25:33

But, for the Welsh, this was also a society

0:25:350:25:37

that allowed them religious freedom of expression

0:25:370:25:41

and where many continued to speak in the Welsh language.

0:25:410:25:44

In the heart of the real Ballarat is a venerable building

0:25:460:25:50

known as the Mechanics Institute -

0:25:500:25:52

a centre for the education and entertainment of working people

0:25:520:25:56

and a place that tells us something about the scale

0:25:560:25:59

of Welsh cultural activity in the town.

0:25:590:26:02

Jan Croggon is a local historian who was keen to show us around.

0:26:020:26:06

-Right.

-Well! It's impressive.

0:26:100:26:13

I've brought you here to show you one of the real links

0:26:130:26:16

to the Welsh in Ballarat and their presence here.

0:26:160:26:18

This is the Great Hall, as it was known, of the Mechanics Institute

0:26:180:26:22

-in Ballarat.

-It's impressive.

-It's beautiful isn't it,

0:26:220:26:25

it's been restored to its original glory.

0:26:250:26:27

It's incredible that they brought all of that tradition with them.

0:26:270:26:31

And, in this Grand Hall, I have to say,

0:26:310:26:33

far grander than the little chapel vestries and halls

0:26:330:26:37

-you'd have had in Wales at that time.

-Almost certainly.

0:26:370:26:40

I've not been to those parts of Wales,

0:26:400:26:42

but Ballarat really did have tabs on itself, I suppose,

0:26:420:26:47

and whatever it built, because it was rich,

0:26:470:26:49

there was gold around, there was a lot of money

0:26:490:26:51

and they were building great big buildings

0:26:510:26:53

and they wanted to show how well they'd done and they wanted to

0:26:530:26:56

not only reproduce but improve and make better

0:26:560:27:00

what they'd brought with them. And we know for an absolute fact

0:27:000:27:03

that there was at least one Eisteddfod held in this very room

0:27:030:27:06

-in 1863, it was a two-day affair.

-1863.

-1863.

0:27:060:27:09

If it was a two-day affair that's a very serious Eisteddfod,

0:27:090:27:12

-I have to say.

-Absolutely.

-Dead serious, yes.

0:27:120:27:15

-In this very hall.

-In this very room, so these walls

0:27:150:27:18

echoed to the sounds of Welsh recitals

0:27:180:27:20

and Welsh choirs and the whole thing.

0:27:200:27:23

# Myfanwy boed yr holl o'th fywyd

0:27:230:27:31

# Dan heulwen ddisglair canol dydd. #

0:27:330:27:39

One of the Welshmen who attended and performed

0:27:430:27:46

at the Ballarat Eisteddfod on a number of occasions

0:27:460:27:50

was a farmer from West Wales, by the name of Joseph Jenkins.

0:27:500:27:54

Jenkins was an extraordinary character

0:27:570:28:00

who worked and travelled extensively in rural Victoria.

0:28:000:28:04

He arrived here at the age of 50, having left his home

0:28:050:28:09

and his troubled marriage in the middle of the night.

0:28:090:28:12

He went on to spend the next 25 years in Australia

0:28:120:28:16

working as a manual labourer,

0:28:160:28:18

during which time he wrote a detailed and fascinating diary.

0:28:180:28:22

I've driven to the town of Maldon about 50 miles north-east

0:28:270:28:31

of Ballarat, where in 1885, at the age of 67,

0:28:310:28:36

Jenkins finally managed to secure long-term employment

0:28:360:28:40

maintaining the town's network of drains.

0:28:400:28:43

It was a job that gave him a wonderfully down-to-earth

0:28:460:28:49

perspective on Australia and its inhabitants.

0:28:490:28:52

"This is a glorious country, but badly managed.

0:28:540:28:58

"Gold, gold, gold is on every tongue,

0:28:580:29:01

"while the soil is shamefully neglected. Each man..."

0:29:010:29:05

"I met an Aborigine. He seemed half-starved.

0:29:050:29:08

"I took him into my cottage and invited him to share a meal with me,

0:29:080:29:11

"and I shared my blankets with him.

0:29:110:29:14

"It is Sunday evening, the church and chapel bells are ringing

0:29:140:29:18

"and the Salvation Army band is playing.

0:29:180:29:21

"This small town is full of religious buildings,

0:29:210:29:25

"but the stay-at-homes outnumber all the other denominations.

0:29:250:29:28

"Many spend their Sundays with their guns in the bush."

0:29:280:29:31

Jenkins' diary, a book that's familiar to many Australian schoolchildren,

0:29:330:29:38

contains entries on everything - politics, agriculture, local crime,

0:29:380:29:43

the Australian weather and plenty of comments about the Welsh.

0:29:430:29:48

Well, Joseph does tend to change his tune a little bit

0:29:480:29:51

about his fellow Welsh in Australia. Listen to this...

0:29:510:29:54

"All nationalists in this colony stick together selfishly.

0:29:540:29:58

"The Welsh are quite to the contrary.

0:29:580:30:00

"They do not heed a man's colour or nationality

0:30:000:30:03

"as long as he acts straightforwardly.

0:30:030:30:05

"I do believe that they prove the best colonists of any nation."

0:30:050:30:10

And then, listen to this.

0:30:100:30:12

"The Welsh people in Australia show great indifference

0:30:120:30:15

"to honouring their national day, St David's Day,

0:30:150:30:18

"and to keeping their language.

0:30:180:30:20

"The Irish, on the other hand, join together to honour St Patrick

0:30:200:30:23

"and form their separate societies."

0:30:230:30:27

Having it both ways, I think.

0:30:270:30:30

BELL RINGS

0:30:300:30:33

WHISTLE BLOWS

0:30:330:30:35

Jenkins lived in the State of Victoria for 25 years

0:30:350:30:40

before deciding to head back to Wales at the age 76.

0:30:400:30:45

By the time he boarded that train home,

0:30:450:30:48

Australia was changing rapidly.

0:30:480:30:50

As the 19th century drew to a close,

0:30:550:30:57

most immigrants were proudly turning themselves into Australians.

0:30:570:31:01

Many chose to leave their old national identities behind them.

0:31:010:31:05

But back in the centre of Melbourne,

0:31:120:31:14

there is one Welsh institution

0:31:140:31:17

from the gold-rush era

0:31:170:31:19

that is still thriving.

0:31:190:31:21

# Calon lan yn llawn daioni

0:31:210:31:24

# Tecach yw na'r lili dlos

0:31:240:31:29

# Dim ond calon lan all ganu

0:31:290:31:36

# Canu'r dydd a chanu'r nos. #

0:31:360:31:45

Croeso cynnes i gwasanaeth Cymraeg cyntaf y flwyddyn...

0:31:490:31:52

'The present minister of the Welsh Church in Melbourne

0:31:520:31:55

'is the Reverend Sion Gough Hughes,

0:31:550:31:57

'who's very proud of the chapel's Noncomformist tradition.'

0:31:570:32:00

'It started out at the beginning of the 20th century

0:32:000:32:03

'as a completely monoglot Welsh church.

0:32:030:32:04

'It was a Welsh language church, no English at all.'

0:32:040:32:06

Slowly but surely it started to have English services, as the Welsh...

0:32:060:32:11

the pure Welsh community died.

0:32:110:32:14

'We see ourselves as a church

0:32:140:32:15

'that's got Welsh connections and Welsh roots

0:32:150:32:18

'and Welsh people are welcome here,

0:32:180:32:20

'but it's now for anybody.

0:32:200:32:23

'It doesn't matter who you are or where you're from.'

0:32:230:32:25

Penmachno? Wel, mae Penmachno wedi newid lot mewn hanner canrif.

0:32:300:32:35

'After the service, there's always a traditional chapel te bach,

0:32:350:32:39

'a little tea, that's anything other than little, to be honest.

0:32:390:32:44

'And the woman responsible for this impressive spread

0:32:440:32:48

'is Christine Boomsma.'

0:32:480:32:50

The chapel's in fantastic condition,

0:32:500:32:52

I'm just really figuring

0:32:520:32:53

that this is such an important part of the Welsh jigsaw, if you like.

0:32:530:32:56

It does, because people walk by in the street,

0:32:560:33:00

and, of course, they come in,

0:33:000:33:01

they see the Welsh flag flying

0:33:010:33:03

and they'll stay for the service

0:33:030:33:06

and we always try to give them a welcome.

0:33:060:33:08

Since when have you been in Australia?

0:33:080:33:10

I was 10 when I arrived, so I've been here 49 years,

0:33:100:33:13

and that's giving my age away!

0:33:130:33:15

So you've lived in Australia all of this time

0:33:150:33:18

and I'm just wondering,

0:33:180:33:20

do you think of yourself as Welsh in any way any more

0:33:200:33:23

or are you just Australian? What are you?

0:33:230:33:25

Well, after much criticism, I'm still a British subject.

0:33:250:33:29

I've never become an Australian citizen because I feel I'm Welsh.

0:33:290:33:34

I like the fact I'm Welsh, I mean,

0:33:340:33:36

I speak Welsh, I live with a lot of Welsh people,

0:33:360:33:39

so I'm used to it and I'm quite happy being a British subject,

0:33:390:33:43

living here... with an Australian accent.

0:33:430:33:46

-A very nice Australian accent!

-Well...thank you.

0:33:460:33:49

So, what does that visit tell me about Welshness in Australia?

0:34:000:34:04

It's a thriving Welsh chapel, let's face it,

0:34:040:34:07

that's something you don't see very often these days.

0:34:070:34:10

And it's thriving because it's retained a core of Welshness

0:34:100:34:13

but it's become, really, an Australian church.

0:34:130:34:16

It's opened the doors to people of all kinds of different backgrounds.

0:34:160:34:19

So I'm getting the sense of a modern Welsh identity

0:34:190:34:22

which sits very comfortably, very happily

0:34:220:34:25

in this diverse society that is today's Australia.

0:34:250:34:29

Of all the 19th-century Welsh immigrants,

0:34:420:34:45

undoubtedly the one who left the biggest mark

0:34:450:34:48

on the Australian urban landscape

0:34:480:34:51

was a shopkeeper called David Jones.

0:34:510:34:53

Born and bred in Carmarthenshire,

0:34:530:34:55

Jones established a trading empire,

0:34:550:34:57

importing and selling goods from Britain and Europe.

0:34:570:35:01

And today the David Jones chain of department stores

0:35:010:35:05

is still one of the best-known names on the High Street.

0:35:050:35:09

In 1901, Australia came of age

0:35:150:35:18

when the country held its first national parliamentary election.

0:35:180:35:22

Although the city of Canberra was eventually chosen

0:35:250:35:28

as the Australian seat of government,

0:35:280:35:30

for the first 26 years

0:35:300:35:32

the Victorian State Parliament here in Melbourne

0:35:320:35:35

was the home of national politics.

0:35:350:35:37

'I've come here to meet

0:35:390:35:40

'the former parliamentary official Dr Ray Wright.'

0:35:400:35:43

Hello, Ray, how are you?

0:35:430:35:44

-Hello, Huw. Welcome to Parliament House.

-Huw Edwards.

0:35:440:35:46

-Thanks for having me.

-It's a great pleasure.

-It's a great building.

0:35:460:35:49

It's wonderful, isn't it? Come and we'll have a look.

0:35:490:35:52

'I'm here to quiz Ray about one particular Australian politician,

0:35:520:35:57

'a Welshman brought up in Llandudno

0:35:570:35:59

'who came to Australia in his early 20s

0:35:590:36:01

'and made his way up from working as a rural labourer

0:36:010:36:05

'to serving in this building as Prime Minister

0:36:050:36:08

'from 1916 to 1923.'

0:36:080:36:11

'His name was Billy Hughes

0:36:130:36:14

'and it's fair to say he has a reputation as a bit of a maverick.'

0:36:140:36:18

So, if I'm right, now, you tell me,

0:36:200:36:22

this is where Billy Hughes would have been operating

0:36:220:36:26

and dominating this chamber?

0:36:260:36:27

That's right, this is Billy Hughes' theatre, this is his arena.

0:36:270:36:31

This is his stage.

0:36:310:36:32

So, let's just think, I'm on the opposition side,

0:36:320:36:34

what kind of a man am I facing? What kind of politician is he?

0:36:340:36:38

You're facing a small man with a large presence,

0:36:380:36:41

a man who is confrontationist and aggressive,

0:36:410:36:44

won't let you get away with a thing.

0:36:440:36:46

-He'll make jokes at your expense.

-Likeable?

0:36:460:36:49

Not very likeable from you, but if you're in the visitor's gallery

0:36:490:36:51

-they would love Billy Hughes.

-Entertaining, then?

0:36:510:36:54

-Very entertaining indeed.

-What about his staff over the years?

0:36:540:36:58

He's very well known for his poor treatment of his staff.

0:36:580:37:02

He was rude and he was a bully

0:37:020:37:05

and he was overbearing.

0:37:050:37:06

He was a member of parliament for 51 years.

0:37:060:37:09

He had more than 100 staff, personal secretaries, resign and leave.

0:37:090:37:14

-In fact...

-It's got to be a record!

-I think it probably is.

0:37:140:37:17

One of them said he'd rather go to bed a with a sabre-toothed tiger

0:37:170:37:21

than keep on working with Billy Hughes.

0:37:210:37:23

Hughes was an outspoken and inspirational leader

0:37:250:37:28

during the First World War

0:37:280:37:30

who earned the adoration

0:37:300:37:31

of the Australian troops fighting in Europe.

0:37:310:37:34

His red-blooded patriotism

0:37:370:37:38

also earned him a whole new set of friends

0:37:380:37:41

when he arrived in London to meet the British War Cabinet in 1916.

0:37:410:37:45

Morale was very low in England at that stage

0:37:460:37:49

and Billy Hughes turned up

0:37:490:37:51

all full of fire and vim and vigour and electricity,

0:37:510:37:54

and Lloyd George sent him off on a speaking tour around England

0:37:540:37:57

called the Wake Up England tour.

0:37:570:37:59

And the adjective that's always used to describe this tour

0:37:590:38:02

is that his speeches were "electrifying".

0:38:020:38:04

He had an amazing impact, just because he was indefatigable,

0:38:110:38:15

he wouldn't give in, he said we had to beat Germany.

0:38:150:38:19

His impact was extraordinary.

0:38:190:38:21

And people began to suggest

0:38:210:38:22

that he might be the next Prime Minister after Asquith.

0:38:220:38:25

'Before I left, Ray was keen to show me

0:38:250:38:28

'a hidden corner of the Parliament building -

0:38:280:38:31

'a reminder of Billy Hughes' eccentric style of leadership.'

0:38:310:38:35

Nice steep staircase.

0:38:350:38:36

-To your left. Down the corridor.

-Bit darker here.

0:38:360:38:40

-Yeah.

-A bit of a sense of the unknown.

0:38:400:38:44

Come and have a look through this window here.

0:38:440:38:47

-We'll see this old rough building here.

-This thing?

0:38:470:38:51

-It looks a bit scruffy.

-It's pretty scruffy, yeah.

0:38:510:38:54

Billy Hughes decided he wanted his own private quarters

0:38:540:38:57

for the parliament when he was here.

0:38:570:38:59

Without asking anybody's permission or seeking anyone's advice,

0:38:590:39:02

he demanded that a building be put up for him here

0:39:020:39:05

so that he could hide away from all those people

0:39:050:39:08

who were pestering him in the other office.

0:39:080:39:10

Victorian members said it was the act of a dictator.

0:39:100:39:13

But it's still there.

0:39:130:39:15

98 years later, it's still there.

0:39:150:39:18

-And not so secret.

-Not secret, and still being used.

0:39:180:39:20

From the end of the First World War,

0:39:290:39:31

Australia was preoccupied

0:39:310:39:33

with securing both its prosperity and its national identity

0:39:330:39:37

by increasing the population.

0:39:370:39:40

Successive Australian governments encouraged largely white immigration

0:39:450:39:50

and they promoted a national image of modern homes, plentiful jobs,

0:39:500:39:55

and a kind of life that for many Welsh people

0:39:550:39:59

must have looked like paradise.

0:39:590:40:01

As an added incentive, well into the 1970s,

0:40:040:40:07

migrants were offered a heavily-subsidised ticket

0:40:070:40:10

for the voyage and they became known as Ten-Pound Poms.

0:40:100:40:14

Among the many Welsh Ten-Pound Poms from Wales

0:40:190:40:22

were the Lloyd family from Aberdare,

0:40:220:40:24

who've kindly invited me for a traditional barbie

0:40:240:40:27

at their home in the Melbourne suburb of Hallam.

0:40:270:40:30

-This is gas, right?

-Yes.

-The one I've got at home is just charcoal.

0:40:370:40:41

-Just charcoal in a kind of...

-That's fine.

0:40:410:40:44

-Controlling the heat is quite difficult.

-No, it isn't!

0:40:440:40:47

Well, it is for me!

0:40:470:40:48

THEY LAUGH

0:40:480:40:51

# Roll out those lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer

0:40:510:40:57

# Those days of soda... #

0:40:570:41:00

Normally, about February, it's stinking hot.

0:41:000:41:03

Yeah, do you know what? I don't want to offend the residents of Aberdare,

0:41:030:41:06

but this for me is the classic barbie-in-Aberdare weather.

0:41:060:41:09

-Back in the Valleys.

-Yeah, it is.

0:41:090:41:10

Dear me.

0:41:100:41:12

Well done.

0:41:180:41:20

# Those days of soda and pretzels and beer

0:41:200:41:23

# Roll out those lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer

0:41:230:41:28

# Dust off the sun and moon and sing a song of cheer... #

0:41:280:41:33

Well, June, I know I shouldn't really be asking you questions

0:41:330:41:37

while you're eating.

0:41:370:41:39

I'm trying to work out how many years it is

0:41:390:41:42

since you first came to Australia.

0:41:420:41:45

What do you reckon, how long is it? 1960...what what it?

0:41:450:41:49

1968, August 1st.

0:41:490:41:52

-45 years?

-Yeah, in August.

0:41:520:41:56

How long was it between the decision and your move?

0:41:560:41:59

-A month.

-A month?

0:41:590:42:02

How on earth do you get your family ready to emigrate in a month?

0:42:020:42:06

I don't know, but we did it. THEY LAUGH

0:42:060:42:09

She's quick, she's quick!

0:42:090:42:11

You're obviously quick.

0:42:110:42:12

What did your family at home make of the decision?

0:42:120:42:16

My mum was very upset and my grandmother was even more upset.

0:42:160:42:21

She said, "I'll never see you again."

0:42:210:42:24

Well, it was done and that was it, you couldn't turn back.

0:42:240:42:27

You were starting a new life, really, weren't you?

0:42:270:42:30

Definitely.

0:42:300:42:31

-Did you see your grandmother again?

-No. Nor my mum.

0:42:310:42:35

My mum died 12 months after I got here.

0:42:350:42:38

-That's a tough price to pay, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:42:380:42:40

And my grandmother died a couple of months later.

0:42:400:42:44

So it was all done, you know,

0:42:440:42:46

and we couldn't go back

0:42:460:42:48

because you had to be two years here before you could go back,

0:42:480:42:52

because you'd have to pay the government full price.

0:42:520:42:56

She settled down very quickly.

0:42:560:42:59

I just wanted to go to school.

0:42:590:43:01

How old were you at the time?

0:43:010:43:03

Six, nine days after we arrived in Melbourne.

0:43:030:43:07

It was very dark and late

0:43:070:43:09

and I remember going to a house, our first house.

0:43:090:43:11

And I love it now, even now when we're in the country or somewhere,

0:43:110:43:15

you hear the magpies - cuckoo-luckoo - they do that noise.

0:43:150:43:18

And that was my first sound in the morning,

0:43:180:43:20

but I remember hating it, thinking, "Oh, these beds are so lumpy!"

0:43:200:43:23

It was like a farm and Mum kept saying,

0:43:230:43:26

"We're in cowboy country! We're in cowboy country!"

0:43:260:43:29

Did you really think it was cowboy country?

0:43:290:43:32

"The cowboys are going to come!" And I'm thinking, "No, OK."

0:43:320:43:34

But to lots of Welsh people, Aberdare's cowboy country as well,

0:43:340:43:37

so you were stretching it a bit, to be fair.

0:43:370:43:40

It was really foul weather.

0:43:400:43:41

The big question I want to ask is,

0:43:430:43:45

once you'd settled, June,

0:43:450:43:47

what was it about Wales that you missed the most?

0:43:470:43:51

My mum and dad.

0:43:510:43:52

And especially my grandmother,

0:43:520:43:55

because my grandmother reared us.

0:43:550:43:57

And for you, Michaela,

0:43:570:43:59

-do you have any memories of Wales at all as a little girl?

-None.

0:43:590:44:03

-None whatsoever.

-How old were you when you came?

-Three.

0:44:030:44:06

And when did you first go back to Wales on a visit?

0:44:060:44:09

I was 21 when I first went back.

0:44:090:44:12

Did you then have any questions about the decision to come out here,

0:44:120:44:17

your father's decision, really, to come out here?

0:44:170:44:20

Yeah, most definitely.

0:44:200:44:21

When I came home I said to Dad, you know, "How could you do it?

0:44:210:44:24

"How could you just pack up

0:44:240:44:26

"and leave all your family and come here?"

0:44:260:44:29

And he said, you know, "I wanted to give you a better life."

0:44:290:44:32

Opportunity was there so they took it.

0:44:320:44:35

It's not hard to see why Ten-Pound Poms like the Lloyd family

0:44:400:44:43

fell in love with Australia,

0:44:430:44:45

but not all the migrants who came here in the 1950s and 1960s

0:44:450:44:49

were so enthusiastic about moving to the other side of the world.

0:44:490:44:53

'David Crisp is a retired sheep-shearer

0:44:550:44:59

'from Northam in Western Australia.

0:44:590:45:02

'When he was a baby, David's teenage mother

0:45:020:45:04

'reluctantly placed him in an orphanage in Swansea.

0:45:040:45:08

'And then at the age of seven

0:45:080:45:10

'he became one of the so-called "lost children",

0:45:100:45:13

'when he was put on a ship and sent off to Clontarf Boys' Home

0:45:130:45:16

'near the Australian city of Perth.

0:45:160:45:20

'It was run by the Roman Catholic Christian Brothers.'

0:45:200:45:23

-How strict was the discipline?

-Very strict.

0:45:240:45:27

Very strict.

0:45:280:45:29

What kind of punishments would they inflict on people?

0:45:290:45:32

Well, I still remember as a kid, it was Saint Patrick's Day,

0:45:320:45:39

we went to Castledare for a picnic there.

0:45:390:45:42

And this Christian Brother said,

0:45:430:45:44

"Whatever you do, don't go up the weir."

0:45:440:45:47

Boys will be boys, and about five of them went up there,

0:45:470:45:52

and Brother Doyle the next day got all the boys lined up and said,

0:45:520:45:57

"Who was up the weir?"

0:45:570:45:59

He went, "Right, I want youse boys up the stage."

0:46:000:46:06

And I've never seen a man hit a kid in all my life.

0:46:060:46:09

He went three or four canes, breaking them, just belted them.

0:46:090:46:16

And I remember, I turned around, I just broke down.

0:46:160:46:19

He said, "Crisp, if you don't turn around and watch this,

0:46:190:46:22

"you'll be up here."

0:46:220:46:23

And I still remember that.

0:46:240:46:25

I will never forget that so long as I live.

0:46:250:46:28

In recent years, there have been lots of really bad revelations

0:46:280:46:32

about the kind of conduct that went on in some of these places,

0:46:320:46:36

especially in attitude to young kids.

0:46:360:46:39

-Was that the case in Clontarf as well?

-Yes, it was definitely... Yes.

0:46:390:46:43

The sex abuse. I didn't realise how bad it was.

0:46:430:46:48

I know I got a sex abuse, you know, by three Brothers.

0:46:480:46:52

I didn't realise how bad it was.

0:46:530:46:56

Cos the boys never talked about it.

0:46:560:46:58

If we talked about it, there's six of the best for a start.

0:47:000:47:03

You know, you just never talked about it.

0:47:050:47:08

But it was a whole complete change of life...

0:47:080:47:10

..you know, from the orphanage at Swansea

0:47:130:47:16

and to come to this place, and stinking hot.

0:47:160:47:19

And, really, to have been tricked into it, in a way.

0:47:190:47:21

-Oh, we were stolen kids.

-If they were saying, "You're going on a trip..."

0:47:210:47:26

Yeah, they stole us. I reckon they stole us.

0:47:260:47:29

The Christian Brothers at Clontarf Boys' Home always insisted

0:47:300:47:34

that the children's parents were dead, but David was never convinced.

0:47:340:47:39

After he left the Boys' Home,

0:47:390:47:41

he ended up working on farms right across Western Australia.

0:47:410:47:45

It wasn't until he was in his mid-40s that he discovered

0:47:450:47:48

the truth about his family.

0:47:480:47:50

Tell me about the moment when you found out you had a mother in Wales.

0:47:530:47:58

That was Mrs Norman.

0:47:580:47:59

She sat us down and said, "There's a letter,"

0:47:590:48:05

and she said, "You've got a mum," you know.

0:48:050:48:10

-And...

-What was your response to that?

0:48:100:48:13

I was shocked. Shocked, you know?

0:48:130:48:17

I walked back in to the shearers, and I said to the shearers,

0:48:170:48:20

"Now you can't call me a bastard - I've got parents!"

0:48:200:48:23

The boys all clapped.

0:48:250:48:27

-Yeah.

-When did you first make contact with your family?

0:48:270:48:30

Mum rang us, Christmas Day.

0:48:300:48:31

I remember her saying...

0:48:320:48:34

IN WELSH ACCENT: "Hello, Dave, how are you, Dave?"

0:48:340:48:37

I said, "That's Welsh!"

0:48:370:48:38

She said, "This is Mum."

0:48:380:48:41

-Wow.

-Mum got all excited, but I couldn't understand her.

0:48:410:48:44

She was Welsh Welsh, you know?

0:48:450:48:47

-Talking very quickly?

-Yeah.

0:48:470:48:49

I said, "Mum, can you slow down?!"

0:48:490:48:51

David's mother came out to visit him,

0:48:550:48:57

and in 1994, he made his first trip back to Wales

0:48:570:49:02

to meet all the members of his long-lost family.

0:49:020:49:04

There he is! Dave!

0:49:050:49:06

There were certainly aspects of Australia's immigration policies

0:49:250:49:28

in the 20th century that have left

0:49:280:49:30

the country with an uncomfortable legacy.

0:49:300:49:33

But today, it's fair to say that this is an increasingly-confident,

0:49:340:49:39

multicultural society.

0:49:390:49:40

Now, in the 21st century, Australia picks

0:49:420:49:45

and chooses its immigrants from all over the globe.

0:49:450:49:47

And it's still an extremely popular destination,

0:49:480:49:51

thanks to its status as one of the most affluent

0:49:510:49:54

and culturally-buoyant societies in the world.

0:49:540:49:57

Nowhere is that cultural pride more in evidence

0:50:010:50:04

than in the field of movies and music.

0:50:040:50:07

Big-name Australian stars are increasingly

0:50:070:50:09

prominent on the world stage.

0:50:090:50:11

And what's surprising is how many of them have Welsh roots.

0:50:130:50:15

# I just can't get you out of my head... #

0:50:180:50:20

From Kylie, whose family came from Maesteg, Olivia Newton-John,

0:50:210:50:25

whose father was from Cardiff, actress Naomi Watts,

0:50:250:50:28

who was brought up in Anglesey...

0:50:280:50:30

..and even that all-Australian actor Russell Crowe had

0:50:320:50:34

a grandfather from Wrexham.

0:50:340:50:36

The Australian appetite for a good show is certainly on display

0:50:480:50:52

here today in Sydney Harbour.

0:50:520:50:54

This is Australia Day, a holiday commemorating

0:50:580:51:01

the arrival of that first fleet of convicts back in 1788.

0:51:010:51:05

It's a chance to celebrate all things Australian,

0:51:080:51:11

and it's a sign of that national confidence

0:51:110:51:13

that it's also an opportunity for Australians to wave

0:51:130:51:16

the flag of their countries of origin.

0:51:160:51:19

Here under Sydney Harbour Bridge, there's a good turnout

0:51:190:51:22

of the Welsh contingent at Sydney's Celtic Festival.

0:51:220:51:25

# Henffych fore

0:51:250:51:27

# Henffych fore

0:51:270:51:30

# Caf ei weled fel y mae. #

0:51:300:51:33

I was all set to join these festivities when I received

0:51:350:51:38

an invitation to travel to Canberra, the capital city of Australia,

0:51:380:51:42

to meet the most famous Australian, and certainly the most powerful one.

0:51:420:51:46

Julia Gillard was born in Barry in Glamorgan,

0:51:470:51:50

but I met her at the official residence of the Prime Minister

0:51:500:51:54

of Australia.

0:51:540:51:55

-Prime Minister.

-Hello, lovely to meet you.

0:51:570:51:59

-Thank you very much for making time today.

-You're very welcome.

0:51:590:52:01

-Am I allowed to say happy Australia Day?

-You certainly are.

0:52:010:52:04

That's the only thing you possibly say today, happy Australia Day!

0:52:040:52:07

Thank you very much. Shall we take a seat?

0:52:070:52:09

Prime Minister, thank you very much

0:52:110:52:13

for sparing time today of all days to talk to us.

0:52:130:52:15

-You're very welcome.

-That's very kind of you.

0:52:150:52:18

Lots of people have different ideas of Wales and what Wales represents.

0:52:180:52:22

So, if I said Wales to you, what's the first thing

0:52:220:52:25

that comes into your mind?

0:52:250:52:26

Oh, I just say it's where my family's from.

0:52:260:52:29

I was very small when we left Wales, I was only four years old,

0:52:290:52:32

so I don't have any original memories,

0:52:320:52:34

but I have all of the family stories that have sort of defined

0:52:340:52:38

who we are and where we came from.

0:52:380:52:40

To what extent are you aware, then, of that Welsh heritage?

0:52:400:52:43

Are those stories things that are dear to you,

0:52:430:52:45

things that you cherish? Are they things you hold on to,

0:52:450:52:48

or are they things that you've kind of left behind?

0:52:480:52:51

No, they're absolutely things that I cherish and hold on to.

0:52:510:52:55

I always knew, growing up, that we had migrated, and Mum and Dad had

0:52:550:52:58

made this difficult decision, and we'd come halfway around the world.

0:52:580:53:02

That was in days when international telephone calls were booked

0:53:020:53:06

through the operator,

0:53:060:53:08

and the price of airline tickets was just astronomically high,

0:53:080:53:11

compared with people's incomes.

0:53:110:53:13

So, you couldn't just go back.

0:53:130:53:15

So, my idea of who we are and what sort of formed us was really built

0:53:160:53:20

through their eyes and their stories about Wales,

0:53:200:53:23

and I was really keen to get back and see it for myself.

0:53:230:53:26

I was also keen to have that sense of extended family.

0:53:260:53:30

We only ever had my father, my mother, my sister and I.

0:53:300:53:34

Everybody else had aunties, uncles, grandmothers, the whole lot.

0:53:340:53:38

We didn't, and so I wanted to know where all of our people were.

0:53:380:53:43

What prompted the move in the first place?

0:53:430:53:45

Why did your parents make that very difficult decision?

0:53:450:53:47

It was a mix of things.

0:53:470:53:49

I was born with bronchial pneumonia, I was very sick as a child.

0:53:490:53:54

They were told by doctors that I would always find it

0:53:540:53:57

difficult in Welsh winters, and perhaps have to miss a lot of school.

0:53:570:54:01

So, that weighed on their mind.

0:54:010:54:03

And Dad thought to himself that there was more economic opportunity

0:54:030:54:06

in Australia, that it was a big thing to do,

0:54:060:54:09

but ultimately the family would be better off.

0:54:090:54:12

And so, all of that came together to reinforce a decision of,

0:54:120:54:15

"Yes, we're going to go," and we went.

0:54:150:54:18

The transition, how difficult was it?

0:54:180:54:20

What did your parents say about the process of starting a new life

0:54:200:54:24

thousands of miles away from home?

0:54:240:54:26

How difficult was that for them?

0:54:260:54:28

They found it pretty hard. They had a lot of advantages.

0:54:280:54:31

The language, you know.

0:54:310:54:33

Our journey is nothing compared with the people who came here not speaking

0:54:330:54:37

a word of English and had to get to grips with the language as well.

0:54:370:54:40

But even with the benefit of speaking English,

0:54:400:54:43

Mum and Dad do remember it as a difficult time.

0:54:430:54:46

They actually arrived in a drought,

0:54:460:54:48

and so it was economically tough, it was hard for Dad to get a job.

0:54:480:54:53

And they had a sense that Australia was a bit behind Wales then.

0:54:530:54:57

Mum talks about having to let her skirts down

0:54:570:54:59

because they were too short.

0:54:590:55:01

Then, there are things about the Australian idiom that took them

0:55:010:55:04

a while to get used to.

0:55:040:55:05

Dad tells this story of being on the bus late at night, coming home

0:55:050:55:09

from work and the bus driver saying to him, "See you later, mate,"

0:55:090:55:13

and Dad going home and saying to my mum,

0:55:130:55:16

"Gee, the bus driver's coming round!"...

0:55:160:55:18

..and it taking them a while to work out that this was just

0:55:200:55:23

a way of saying goodbye, rather than,

0:55:230:55:25

"I'll be at your house for a cup of tea fairly soon."

0:55:250:55:29

I just want to talk a little bit about your political values.

0:55:290:55:32

Because, as I understand it, and please tell me if I've got it wrong,

0:55:320:55:35

your parents were originally from the South Wales Valleys,

0:55:350:55:39

which have a great and rich tradition

0:55:390:55:41

of radical, left-of-centre politics.

0:55:410:55:44

To what extent did that background, via your parents,

0:55:440:55:48

inform your political stance, your political values?

0:55:480:55:51

It's really a very keen shaper of my political values.

0:55:510:55:56

My father is from one of the coal-mining villages in South Wales,

0:55:560:56:01

and he particularly transmitted values that he learned

0:56:010:56:05

in his coal-mining village and his family home.

0:56:050:56:09

To him, trade unionism was everything.

0:56:090:56:12

It was mandatory to be part of the union,

0:56:120:56:14

and it was the only way that working people ever got a chance

0:56:140:56:18

or ever got a fair deal, if they got into the union.

0:56:180:56:21

So, a real almost religion with him, and that came through.

0:56:210:56:25

My mother grew up in Barry, from a more middle-class family.

0:56:250:56:29

Her father was an engineer.

0:56:290:56:31

But she, too, always had a great sense

0:56:310:56:33

of social justice and what was right.

0:56:330:56:36

So both of them, their Welsh heritage,

0:56:360:56:39

their Welsh values and background shaped me.

0:56:390:56:42

I think a Prime Ministerial visit to Wales would go down very, very well,

0:56:420:56:46

Prime Minister, if I may say so. Just a gentle suggestion!

0:56:460:56:50

Well, one of these days, I'd love to.

0:56:500:56:52

I don't think this year is going to be a possibility for it.

0:56:520:56:56

Might be a bit busy.

0:56:560:56:57

Yes, I've got an election to fight during the course of this year,

0:56:570:57:00

but I have had our High Commissioner in Britain say

0:57:000:57:03

on more than one occasion, "You've got to get there,

0:57:030:57:06

"you've got to go to Wales," so wouldn't it be a great opportunity,

0:57:060:57:10

if it's possible in the future?

0:57:100:57:12

Prime Minister, I'm going to say, diolch yn fawr.

0:57:120:57:14

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:57:140:57:16

From convicts to Prime Ministers,

0:57:240:57:26

the Welsh have made quite a journey here in Australia.

0:57:260:57:30

So, what is the common thread that connects the experience

0:57:300:57:33

of those first settlers with today's Welsh Australians?

0:57:330:57:37

There is one word which sums up the appeal of Australia

0:57:380:57:41

that's as true today as it has been for the past 200 years.

0:57:410:57:45

That word is opportunity.

0:57:450:57:47

The kind of opportunity that brings personal fulfilment,

0:57:470:57:51

economic gain and a sense of freedom...

0:57:510:57:54

..not to mention plenty of sunshine.

0:57:550:57:57

And for so many people, Wales just can't compete with all of that.

0:58:000:58:06

What I've discovered here is that the Welsh are very comfortable

0:58:060:58:09

with a dual identity.

0:58:090:58:12

They haven't rejected Wales,

0:58:120:58:13

but they have fully embraced this wonderful country

0:58:130:58:17

and they've played a big part

0:58:170:58:19

in Australia's remarkable success story.

0:58:190:58:23

Long may that continue.

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