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Apart from memories and museums, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
hardly anything remains in Wales of our once-great coal mining industry. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Most of our pits have been flattened and grassed over. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
But 30 years ago, pits like this one, right across Britain, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
witnessed a titanic struggle to stay open. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
For an entire year, 150,000 miners and their families | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
held out against a government | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
led by Margaret Thatcher, determined to shrink the industry | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
and to crush the power of the National Union of Mineworkers. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
It was a watershed moment in the history of post-war Britain. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
I was heavily involved at the centre of the strike | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and in this film, I want to tell the inside story | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
of that 12-month battle. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
It was a bitter conflict, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
which was symbolised by the leading warriors on each side - | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and NUM President Arthur Scargill. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Their unbending opposition to each other was echoed | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
among their officers and troops. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
We could not have a group of politically-motivated | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
industrial workers holding the country to ransom. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
We could either roll over and let them kick us to death, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
or we had to stand up and fight. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Day after day, for a whole year, I saw close up the heroism | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
and the anger of men and women who sustained the strike, often | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
in the face of massive pressure from the forces of the State. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
There were men coming into my office, just down the road in Swansea, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
in tears. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
In tears. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
Their houses were being repossessed, their marriages were breaking up... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
Nobody who grew up in mining communities could fail to be | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
moved by these experiences. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
But I do want to raise some awkward questions... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
About the problem of trying to sustain a national strike | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
when there hadn't been a national ballot. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
About a flawed national leadership that sometimes seemed to be absent. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
About the logic and wisdom of demanding | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
a huge increase in coal production when it was clear | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
that the key markets for coal were already in steep decline. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Not all of my friends from the strike will agree with me | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
when we talk about this. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
But they'll always be my friends. From an epic struggle that failed. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
For 21 years, until 2010, I was MP for Pontypridd, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
here in the heart of the South Wales coalfield. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
And for a chunk of that time, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
I was a Minister in the governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
But in my long-haired militant days, I'd been a student activist | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and then an academic. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
By 1984, I was working here in Pontypridd | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
for the South Wales area of the National Union of Mineworkers. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
I was a research officer, providing material for the executive. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
Especially for the area president, Emlyn Williams. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
In the political climate created by Mrs Thatcher's Conservatives, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
you didn't need to be a prophet to see the storm clouds gathering | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
over the coalfield. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
The storm hit us in March 1984. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
The strike was brought on by the announcement of 20 pit closures and | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
a massive reduction in coal output. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
The announcement was made by Ian MacGregor, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
the chairman of the National Coal Board. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
We knew him as Mrs Thatcher's hit man - the boss who had delivered | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
huge job cuts in the British Steel Corporation. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
We had no doubt that he intended exactly the same thing | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
for the coal industry and we were determined that we were | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
going to defend our jobs and our communities. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
At the beginning of the strike there were 170 collieries across Britain, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
with almost 200,000 working miners. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
The recently released Cabinet papers for 1984 reveal that the | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
Conservative Government and Ian MacGregor secretly intended | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
to close 70 of these pits as quickly as possible. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
So, Scargill was right, people say. Though the truth is | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
we all knew that the hit list was much bigger | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
than the 20 pits that were announced. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
But in South Wales there were serious misgivings | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
about our chances of success. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
An uncertainty about the wisdom of using strike action. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
To understand why, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
you have to go back into the story of the previous decade. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
The miners were the bogeymen of Conservative governments | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
because of their successful strikes in the 1970s. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
And then in 1981, they forced Mrs Thatcher's first major U-turn, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
facing down a proposal to close 23 pits across Britain. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
It was a defeat never to be forgotten by a Prime Minister | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
who was determined to fight another day and this time, to win. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
But it's important to remember that pit closures had been | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
common for 30 years before the 1980s. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
And it was often hard to get solidarity from other miners | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
when you were trying to save a pit. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
In Wales, there was a famous example of colliery closure | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
in the year immediately before the strike. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
This used to be the Lewis Merthyr pit. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
It's now the Rhondda Heritage Park. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
In 1983 it was occupied by its workforce | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
in the battle to keep it open. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
The South Wales miners appealed for help to their brothers | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
in the Midlands, Yorkshire and the northern coalfields. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
The fact that that help didn't materialise | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
was to have consequences months later when, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
on the 5th March 1984, strikes broke out in Yorkshire | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
over the closure of its Cottonwood Colliery. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Within a week, a strike was rolling across the country | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
in opposition to what were called the MacGregor closures. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
At the start of the strike, NUM members in South Wales | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
were reluctant to come out. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
In a vote taken on the first weekend, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
18 out of 28 pits voted against the strike. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
But Emlyn Williams believed that this area vote | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
could be turned around. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
I'm sure that the South Wales miners will respond | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
because we are not talking about Yorkshire, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
we are talking about the MacGregor plan to annihilate | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
at least a third of the South Wales coalfields within 12 months. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
But most of the men Emlyn represented had no real confidence | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
about going into a strike without miners across the British coalfields | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
voting for it in a national ballot. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
We work on Monday, but we will not go through any pickets. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
None whatsoever. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-What was the mood of the meeting? -We want a national ballot. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
To relive how we changed the mood in South Wales, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
I'm meeting up with two NUM comrades from the time. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
The well-known activist Tyrone O'Sullivan | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
and the South Wales vice president in 1984, Terry Thomas. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
If ever there was an example that the power of the unions | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
is the members of the unions themselves. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Because when the first meetings took place, in general | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
it was the union officials that were | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
talking at meetings and speaking to the men. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
But after that, when the decision went by, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
as you say, the majority of lodges, not to strike... | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Then when the ordinary miners themselves went out to speak to them | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
in the coming days, the decisions were changed. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
It altered the decision. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
Tyrone, you were a lodge official, what did you do to get people out, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
to make them join the strike? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I phoned you up, Kim. I said, "Look, Kim, I don't know where every | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
"pit is in the coalfield, I could do with some maps and plans. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
"Could I meet you up in Hirwaun?" | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
So what we did, I phoned the other lodges up, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
got the seven lodges to turn up. You came along. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
You said, "Look, here are the maps and plans. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
"I can get you to these pits." | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
So I said, "Right, that's where we are. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
"Let's go back to our communities and fill the buses." | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
My first pit was Maesteg. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
One of the things that we were proudest of | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
was the fact that we were the most democratic of trade unions. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-And yet, here we were, the three of us, in a way... -Yeah. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
..doing something which was outside of the rules of that union. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
-No, it wasn't. -Listen, I went and picketed pits on the Monday morning | 0:08:48 | 0:08:55 | |
even though the South Wales area clearly was against taking | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
strike action. That's undemocratic, isn't it? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
We changed the rules. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
There was to be no more national ballots. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
We had changed that within our own union. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Democratically, through conferences. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
We no longer needed national ballots. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Terry's the expert on that | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
because he sat through all of the legal procedures. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
You went to the High Court | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
to hear Lord Justice Scott make a ruling of it. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
He was part of the establishment. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
He was very supportive of the Thatcher Government | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
and as far as I'm concerned, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
he couldn't find a way of saying that that strike was illegal. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
And that sums it up for me. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
We had the NUM rule book saying it was legal. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
We had the High Court judge up in the Old Bailey saying it was legal. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
What more can you want than that? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I've got no doubt it was used as a negative against us, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
why didn't we have a national ballot? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
From the constitution, we were right. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
But you could not risk it because you had this huge | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
position in Leicester and the white-collar workers. No, no. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
It would've been lovely to have had, Kim. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
But we just couldn't have won it. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Whatever doubts that existed in South Wales prior to the strike, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
the traditions of union solidarity galvanised the workforce into action | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
once it was under way. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Spring 1984 was full of headlong activity | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
as we organised Welsh miners to picket in other areas, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
particularly in the English Midlands, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
where the majority of miners were refusing to join the strike. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
That's all I'm asking you. Come out with us, boys. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
If you all come out together we could win the bloody fight. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
We don't believe in the strike. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-Why not? -It's undemocratic. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
How many times have we had a vote on pit closures? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
It was a major operation. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
It was my job to mobilise 4,000 - 5,000 pickets who travelled | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
all over England and put pressure on power stations and working mines. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
We went flat out, trying to force an early resolution of the strike. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:06 | |
The Conservative Government had passed an employment act | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
to restrict picketing activity. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
We were constantly defying it, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
especially when we picketed other industries. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It could be cloak and dagger stuff. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
We learned quickly how to avoid police roadblocks by using | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
remote mountain-top roads and back lanes. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
The police couldn't cover them all. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
But in bad weather, and keeping the use of headlights to a minimum, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
sometimes it made for dangerous driving. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
There were times when the police managed to block off all | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
routes to pits. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
But that didn't stop up either. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
We'd gather in the darkness before dawn, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
and make our way silently up through the forests | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
and over the high moorland on foot to avoid the roadblocks. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
# Here we go, here we go, here we go | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
# Here we go, here we go... # | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Of course, there was exhilaration in all of this. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
But there were already disturbing signs that this strike might go | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
terribly wrong and exact terrible human cost. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
On the front line of the strike in Nottinghamshire | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and the rest of the Midlands, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
picketing miners were hurling abuse and rocks at working miners. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
The workforce was disastrously divided, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
fighting itself instead of its opponents. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
THEY BLEAT LIKE SHEEP | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
The people at this bloody colliery are going to | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
sell your youngsters' jobs out. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:33 | |
They're looking for redundancy, all right? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And they'll bloody sell you out, every one of them will. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTS | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
In May 1984 I wrote a document for the NUM leaders in Pontypridd. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:49 | |
I said that there was a lack of strategic focus in the way | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
the strike was being led by Arthur Scargill and his lieutenants | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
based in the national headquarters in Sheffield. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
I started to question the emphasis on the | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
mass picketing of working collieries. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
And many of us believed that Scargill's all or nothing approach | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
of no pit closures was clearly absurd | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
given the condition of many ageing pits. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
As national president of this union, I'll tell you the terms. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
No pit closures. No manpower reductions. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
CHEERING | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
The South Wales leadership | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
and its magnificent members across the coalfield | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
knew that our only chance of winning was to starve the power stations | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
and the steelworks of coal. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
It meant that we had to build special alliances with | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
workers in power stations like this one at Aberthaw. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
And, of course, on the railways, in the dockyards, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and in the steelworks. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
But these careful approaches to other industrial workers | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
were blocked by Mr Scargill and his deputies. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
They were content to let the pithead battles run. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
And all the while, the huge stockpiles of coal were being | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
shipped into the power stations and the electricity kept flowing. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
I was desperately worried | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
after almost three months of strike action, that the huge sacrifices | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
made by the miners and their families would come to nothing | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
if we didn't have clear objectives beyond appearing to be waging | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
televised medieval battles against the forces | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
of Mrs Thatcher's Government. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
I was not alone in having these anxieties. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Maerdy in the Rhondda was one of the great centres of strike activity. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
But even here, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
there were doubts about the strategic leadership of the strike. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Ivor England was the secretary of the NUM lodge, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
and I meet up with him on the site of the former Mardy pit. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
I had great reservations. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
One of the reservations was that the older miners weren't happy | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
about engaging in a struggle that they didn't know | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
how the hell to get out of. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Particularly with Arthur Scargill at the helm. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-You recommended this guy. -Yes, indeed. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And, of course, you know... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
Reservations, yeah. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
I went around campaigning for him all over the place. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
So we're both guilty men, in that sense. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Yes, yes. When Arthur came along, he said, compromise - you cannot. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
Consultation is out. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Consultation between them and us doesn't work. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
There's got to be a way that the miners' union is strong, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
is going to fight, is going to fight against ALL pit closures. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
It's going to fight...regardless of what THEY say, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
pit closures have got to be fought. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
That was an unreal situation. There was a feeling amongst all the men, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
"We're going too far on this. We cannot win them all." | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Not all miners were in favour. There were miners breaking away here, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
there were miners breaking away there, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
there were people happy to go to work, there were South Wales | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
miners and Yorkshire miners who were opposing them on the picket line, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
shouting and screaming as they said. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
There was people starting to say, "This is going too far now. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
"You're actually challenging Government." | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
It's time to step out of the closely-knit world of the coalfield | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and turn to the Conservative Government of Margaret Thatcher. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
She had led her party to victory at elections in 1979 and 1983, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
and was fervently committed to breaking the power of the unions | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
and shrinking the public sector. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Throughout the strike, her cabinet was meeting on a war footing, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
monitoring events and driving forward the offensive | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
against the miners. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I'm meeting with Michael Heseltine | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
who was a key figure in that Thatcher Cabinet. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Lord Heseltine, in 1984... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
we had the impression very much in the coalfields that this | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
action by the Government, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
the announcement of the closure list, the reduction in coal output, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
was revenge really for the strikes of 1972 and 1974. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
Is that true? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
HE CHUCKLES I think what you say is true, that's what you felt. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
But, of course, it's a complete misreading of history. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
It wasn't a question of revenge or anything of that sort. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
It was sucking the lifeblood out of the British economy. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
You can argue about whose fault it was, but it had to be addressed. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
You couldn't accept that sections of society were above the law. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Was the NUM a special case? Was it especially politically motivated? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
Certainly, it was. But it also was regarded as a difficult place | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
because it had the economy by the stranglehold. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
The ability to bring the country's economy to a standstill | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
was absolutely within the hands of a tiny number | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
of politically-motivated miners. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
The subsidy to the coalmines that came from the Government, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
from the public purse, amounted to almost £1 billion | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
by the start of the strike in 1984. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Was that the main driver within the Government to do | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
something about this? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
No. No. It was the issue of who governs. The rule of law. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
And it's quite wrong to see this as a phenomenon | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
of the Conservative Government. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
This was a problem for all post-war governments. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It's an astonishingly frank answer from Michael Heseltine | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
about his government's carefully prepared confrontation | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
with the miners. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
The police force was prepared and there were huge amounts of coal | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
piled up in the stockyards around the country. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
The Conservatives were absolutely determined not to be | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
outflanked by the miners, as they had been in 1981. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTS That was the essence of the strategy. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
That if Scargill is going to fight this battle, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
it's got to be fought at a time of our choosing and not his. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
And by the time the strike began in '84, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
every pit had huge piles of surface coal. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
Every power station had huge piles of coal. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
There was no way that Arthur Scargill would have voluntarily chosen | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
to fight on those conditions at that time, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
particularly with the mild weather coming. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
One of the first things that the Thatcher Government did | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
was to start changing the law on picketing, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
in order to counteract the effectiveness of flying pickets, for example. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Was this part of a wider programme about tackling trade union power? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Certainly. Let us have no doubt about it. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
This was an issue that had to be gripped. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
We could not have a group of politically-motivated, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
and they were heavily motivated, industrial workers | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
holding the country to ransom. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
The development of the law to curb trade union power | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
was a central tenet of Mrs Thatcher's governments. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
And in fairness, the laws were never dismantled | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
by the Labour governments in which I served. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Mr President, what we have seen in this country is | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
the emergence of an organised revolutionary minority | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
who are prepared to exploit industrial disputes, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
but whose real aim is the breakdown of law and order | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
and the destruction of democratic parliamentary government. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Michael Heseltine was never the harshest face | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
of Thatcherite ideology. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
But talking to him reminds you again of the massive power of the State. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
Especially over state-controlled industries. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
This time the Tories were ready for the miners | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and for a struggle that was to be the climax of their campaign | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
against union power. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
In the summer of 1984, it was clear that we were in for a long haul | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
in a strike that was to be the longest lasting | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
and most painful since the legendary events of 1926. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
The general strike of 1926 is the only other industrial action | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
in the 20th century to compare with the miners' strike | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
for length and hardship. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
And, like in the soup kitchens of 1926, women were | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
crucial in providing support to hard-pressed striking families. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
But this was a different age | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
with more women in work | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
and with women from Wales active in a number of political causes. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
In this strike, women would join the picket lines, confront the police, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
and evade surveillance by security forces. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I've come to the impressive Dove Community Workshop and Cafe | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
at Banwen in the Dulais Valley, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
high up in the west of the coalfield, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
where I'm meeting Mair Francis and Christine Powell | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
to reflect on the powerful change in women's roles. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
I think most of the people that were active in the support group | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
realised that they couldn't succeed | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
unless they had the support of the women. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Not just in the background providing food or... In some areas there were | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
soup kitchens. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
We didn't want that. We wanted the women to be involved, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
to make decisions alongside the men. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
And you made contact, of course, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
with people from all kinds of backgrounds, didn't you? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Tell me about some of those, Chris. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Gays and lesbians supported the miners in London. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
You've got to remember this is 1984, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
a lot of the boys around here still had '70s sideboards, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
longish hair, and men were men and women were glad. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
And then the first time they came down | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
and it got through the valley... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
"All these gays are coming down!" | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
But it was funny. The attitudes that changed after that | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
because those guys were standing on the underground platforms in London | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
and rattling buckets for the miners in the middle of London. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-MEGAPHONE: -'The miners' struggle is their struggle...' | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Across the coalfields, women's groups were feeding | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
and sustaining families. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
The Dulais women alone fed 1,000 families throughout | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
the year-long strike. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
It was a major operation, partly funded by other sympathetic unions. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
They put the money directly into the local shop in the village | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
-and a lot of the food came from there. -And then with Tesco. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Bread from the bakery. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
This Austin Metro's got 269 loaves of bread in it. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
And 269 pints of milk. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
And so you distributed this food out to the distribution centres... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Yeah, and then the parcels were made up. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-Then the parcels were made up. -Which included the Valley Star. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Which was the publication that was produced every week... | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
-You published that? -Yes. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Which was all the information about what was taking place. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So if there was a march or rally or some morale-boosting occasion, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
-that's how you'd let people know that it was on? -Yes. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Some things, yes. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
But some things... we went on a sponsored swim. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
-How do you mean? -A sponsored swim was code for a picket. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Oh, I see. Brilliant. So this was to foil MI5 and the local police? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:23 | |
Well, it was the funny clicks that were on my telephone every time | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I picked it up or put it down. Put it that way. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
So we went... It was nothing to be picked up at 4:30 in the morning | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
to go on a "sponsored swim." | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Right. Yes. That must have been very interesting for the eavesdroppers. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Yes. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
Well, tell me now about the way you reached out from collecting | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
and distributing food, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
creating what became called "an alternative welfare state." | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
When did you start moving on to women being on picket lines | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
with the men, with the striking miners? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
The first picket, it was a demonstration I went on | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
when our friend Mrs Thatcher was coming to address | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
the Welsh Conservative Party in Porthcawl. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
That's the famous occasion when the eggs were thrown at her | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
and they went on her dress. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
PEOPLE JEERING | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
It was the first experience I've had of the atmosphere of a mob. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:26 | |
I wouldn't say we were a mob, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
but I could see how atmosphere can change, you know, herd behaviour. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
We were all having a laugh and chatting away with the policemen, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and then obviously something came down the line that she was coming. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
And as one, the language altered, shall we say? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
LOUD JEERING | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
That was my first experience of that and I shall never forget. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
I can feel that feeling now. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
# ..Alone | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
# You'll never walk alone... # | 0:26:02 | 0:26:10 | |
The inspirational work of women is an unforgettable memory | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
from the strike. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
But we still have to remember that this was a strike that failed. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
I'm heading north to Yorkshire, which was the power base | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
of the NUM's president Arthur Scargill | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
and the scene of bitter conflicts in that angry summer of 1984. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
But on the way, I'm passing through the Northeast Wales coalfield, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
where the mood was very different from my home patch in South Wales. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
There were only two pits in this coalfield - | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Point of Ayr and Bersham. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
But they were both sharply divided over the question of holding | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
a national ballot. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:51 | |
Coming here to the site of the Bersham Colliery | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
brings back uncomfortable memories of the harsh | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
divisions between miners. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
The 1984 strike was a battle for survival. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
The future of thousands of jobs were at stake. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Unsurprisingly, attitudes hardened with the passing of the months. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
And there's no doubt that there were people in this area who suffered | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
real hatred because of their positions on the strike. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
The miners' leaders were struggling to hold the workforce together | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
and were accused of not pushing a hard enough line. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
And miners who called for a national ballot were vilified. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
But there's no doubt that the most bitter scenes of conflict between | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
miners were seen in the tense border areas between South Yorkshire | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
and Nottinghamshire. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
This was the key coalfield for deciding the course | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
and outcome of the strike. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
The most notorious battle of the strike was at a coking plant | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
serving the steel industry. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
The events at Orgreave near Sheffield on June 18th, 1984 | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
loom large in the history of the strike. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
This used to be an open-cast mine | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
as well as the site of the coking plant. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
But it's now been much redeveloped. Perhaps a symbol of the way | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
in which the mining industry and the strike are slipping out | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
of popular memory. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
But on the 18th June, 1984, this was a medieval battlefield, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
where around 8,000 miners were herded into an arena | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
of confrontation by 4,500 police, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
including a large contingent of mounted police. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
Miners have always expressed their surprise that they weren't | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
turned away by the police that day, as they had been | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
so often during the strike. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Instead, they were allowed to congregate near the coking plant | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
before being ushered into a large field, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
where the police were massed at the bottom. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
It was clearly a trap. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTS 'Watch it, watch it.' | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
The police operation on the day involved officers | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
from forces around the country | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
who were drafted in to help handle the pickets. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
This had been a major innovation of the Conservative Government. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Nationally directed deployment of the police to counteract | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
so-called flying pickets. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTS | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
In the vicious skirmishes and charges, dozens of people, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
both miners and officers, were injured. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
The clashes led to more than 90 people being arrested. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
There was a complete collapse in the prosecutions for riot | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
against 95 miners | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
and the South Yorkshire Police had to pay out | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
£425,000 to the miners who sued them. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
What's more, the South Yorkshire Police referred itself | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
to the Police Complaints Commission in 2012 | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
after a BBC documentary alleged that certain police officers | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
had colluded in writing their court statements. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
It all left a bitter taste in the mouths of miners and their families. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
But whatever disgraceful behaviour occurred that day | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
on the part of the forces of the State, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
there are still big questions to ask about the leadership of the strike. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
To do this, I've come to the current NUM headquarters, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
which is housed in this lovely old Yorkshire area building. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
It's a place full of ghosts | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
where the general secretary Chris Kitchen and his colleagues | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
look after only 1,000 members across five British pits. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
That's compared with almost 200,000 members at the time of the strike. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
Chris was a 17-year-old picketing foot soldier in 1984. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
What does he think now of the leadership of the strike? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
I think, looking back in hindsight, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
there was very little room to manoeuvre | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
for the union and the leaders at the time. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
I think it was orchestrated, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
the timing wasn't of the NUM's choice, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
I think we were backed into a corner. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
We could either roll over and let them kick us to death | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
or we had to stand up and fight. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
As a trade unionist, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
you'll know that trade unionism is always about compromise. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
You've got to give and take, and you come out with the best deal you can, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
but the 1984 strike started | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
with the demand that there be no closures. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
I mean, that was the wrong way to start it, wasn't it? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
I think the sticking point was on the economic grounds. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
The Government dug its heels in and said, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
"If a pit's losing money, it has to shut." | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
The reality of mining is that a pit can lose money one year. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
It might lose money two or three years on the trot, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
but like any other business where you've got different outlets, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
if you've got some that's losing money and some that's making money, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
as long as overall you're breaking even or making money, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
and, let's not forget, you were still retaining employment, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
you were still getting good paid jobs | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
and keeping the communities alive. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
In the Cabinet papers that were released in January, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
it's very interesting that the focus of most of the discussion | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
at Cabinet level was about Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
and Derbyshire, because this was the great centre, wasn't it, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
of all of the problems that the Government saw, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
of mass picketing and so on? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
What did it feel like, living here then? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
It felt like you were living in a police state. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
I mean, living in a mining village | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
with most people on strike, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
the amount of police presence, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
trying to get about the country, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
especially as the strike progressed | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
and obviously they gathered intelligence | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
and knew your registration number and the make and model of your car. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
You were treated like a criminal and told where you can and can't go | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
in a country that's supposed to be a democratic country, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
where everybody's got freedom of speech and freedom of movement. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
By the early summer of 1984, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
I was very worried and very upset | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
at the sight of these battles that were taking place every morning, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
where one group of miners were screaming and yelling | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
at other groups of miners who where going to work. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
There was terrible division there. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
It seemed to me that that wasn't what trade union was about. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
It wasn't what the trade union was about that I'd grown up with. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
I think the way that the mass picketing evolved during the strike | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
was a direct consequence of how the picket lines were policed. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
The first picket lines I started going on, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
you'd got policemen in normal uniform | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
that linked hands. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
And you'd got the ability that, you know, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
you could get to talk to the strike-breakers | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
to put your argument forward, whether they listened to it or not. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Then the police presence started to build up. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
Then we had the riot shields there. Instead of being confronted with | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
a line of policemen that were linking arms, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
you were confronted with a row of Perspex | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
and the police officers behind were truncheon in hand, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
ready to bob you on the head over the top. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
When men, exhausted by the strike, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
eventually started going back to work | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
after many months, I was alarmed by the hardline attitude | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
that called them scabs. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
But Chris Kitchen is quite clear in his view. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
My personal feeling is quite simple. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
If you cross a picket line, you're a scab. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I can't... | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
honestly say that I can judge somebody | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
who wasn't in the same circumstances as me - | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
single, living at home, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
with no bills and family relying on him, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
then, as far as I'm concerned, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
if I managed to stop out, then so should they. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
I don't take that hardline view | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
with people who were married with kids and families, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
but a scab is a scab, and the definition of a scab | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
is somebody that crosses a picket line. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
Talking to Chris brought home to me | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
the scale of the conflict in South Yorkshire | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and the passionate commitment that people had for the strike. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
But it also reminded me how easy it was for a biased media | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
to present events like the Battle of Orgreave in June 1984 | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
as the riotous disorder of a rabble. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
In all of this noise and confrontation, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
it was possible to lose a grip on the arguments | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
that underpinned the NUM's actions in the strike. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
The social argument was about the damaging effects | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
of pit closures on communities. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
The economic argument, based on the 1970s plan for coal, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
was that you needed a major coal industry to power a country | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
that had been held over an oil barrel in the 1970s | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
and which could not trust the safety of nuclear energy. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
'The distinguished economist Huw Beynon | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
'was very active during the strike | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
'and he could see all round the disastrous decline | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
'in the market for coal.' | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
It's clear that the plan for coal was quite an optimistic one | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
based upon a huge hike in oil prices | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
through the Gulf States | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
and an assumption about manufacturing expansion | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
and also about domestic use of electricity, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
and, of course, several things became unhinged on that, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
particularly after '79, when big manufacturing started to close down, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
big energy users started to close down, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
so the steel market became squeezed, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
the industrial market became squeezed, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
the demand for electricity declined | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
and there became alternative sources of electricity production. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
In the run up to the miners' strike in 1984, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
and during the strike, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
we were going around the country making the case for coal - | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
actually, the case for expanding coal production - | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
at a time of declining markets. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
I mean, do you think we were deluded doing that? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
There was still a case to be made for retaining coal production in Britain. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
I think we realised, and certainly the pits realised, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
that we were in a difficult situation | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
because everywhere around them, pits were closing. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Not only pits were closing. I was in the Northeast, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
and everything else was closing! | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
So I think delusion is the wrong word, really. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
It was a very, very difficult situation for people to deal with. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
The strike changes everything. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Without a strike, there's negotiation, discussion, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
disagreement. When you've got a strike, everything changes | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
because it becomes about power. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
It becomes about power and how it's going to be settled. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
So if the coal miners all drifted back to work, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
there'll be no settlement... | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
This is the logic of the whole thing. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
So if they starve them back, there'll be no settlement, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
which is what happened. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Talking to Huw Beynon reminds me | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
of the massive loss of industrial employment | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
that had accelerated in the early years of Mrs Thatcher's governments. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
In some ways, the coal jobs were only the final nail in the coffin | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
of heavy industry. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
But in the year of the strike, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
our focus was just on keeping going | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
and getting something solid for the miners. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
August 1984 brought a huge challenge to us | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
in the South Wales NUM. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
We had been heavily picketing the steelworks | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
and docks here in Port Talbot. We tried to control | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
everything that moved in and out of this huge industrial complex | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
to increase the impact of the strike. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
# This Government had an idea | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
# And Parliament made it law | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
# Seems like it's illegal | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
# To fight for the union any more | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
# And which side are you on, boys? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
# Which side are you on? # | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
But the so-called secondary picketing of other industries | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
had been made illegal by Conservative Government laws. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
And these laws also empowered the courts | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
so seize our union funds | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
if we persisted in this illegal picketing. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
It meant that the money that we needed | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
in order to keep the picketing going | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and to sustain striking families | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
was frozen in the banks. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
In other words, we couldn't get our hands on our own union funds. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:05 | |
But we carried on with our actions, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
especially our efforts to disrupt and sabotage | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
the protected lorry convoys | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
endlessly trundling along the M4 | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
and keeping steel output going. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
The Government had come to arrangements | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
with private road hauliers | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
so that there'd be no disruption to steel production. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Blocking the convoys of lorries led us into considerable danger, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
particularly at the Magor exit from the motorway in Gwent. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Day after day, the biggest road convoys seen in this country | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
in peacetime roared up off the motorway, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
delivering coal and iron ore from the Port Talbot docks | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
to the steelworks at Llanwern. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Every day, with their arms linked, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
the police would hold us back as we surged forward, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
trying to stop the convoy. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
It was a violent and dangerous business. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
The lorry owners were paid big money | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
and we learned very quickly | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
that human bodies weren't designed | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
to stop 30 tonnes of steel rolling along a highway at speed, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
guarded by the police. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
SHOUTING | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Sometimes we succeeded in delaying the convoy, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
but we never stopped it for long. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
And the very sight of it heading east and west along the M4 | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
became a potent symbol of the Government's determination | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
to win at all costs. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
But it wasn't all darkness and danger. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
The Chartist march of the 1830s was resoundingly restaged | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
as a miners' protest through the Gwent Valleys. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
And there was an extraordinary occupation | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
of the wonderful transporter bridge in Newport. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Stories were circulating that the wharves close to here | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
were being used to offload barges | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
of imported coal intended for the blast furnaces | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
at the nearby Llanwern steelworks. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Our plan was to seize that gondola, that steel platform, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
and stop it midstream, suspended over the river, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
so that nothing could sail in or out. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
When a team of specially chosen miners | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
from the valleys to the north of Newport | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
seized the bridge's control room, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
all hell broke lose. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
MEGAPHONE: You're committing a criminal conspiracy | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
in taking over this bridge. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
If you don't disperse, you'll all be arrested. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
A column of police charged the metal stairs | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
that led up to the control room. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
At the front, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
the police threw an oil barrel back over their shoulders | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
and it landed on the heads of their colleagues below. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
Now, at the trial of the miners who'd seized the control room, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
the police argued that it was the miners who'd thrown the barrel. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
But, in fact, there was a film, a news film, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
and when it was shown to the court, the judge said, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
"I want that news film guarded very carefully by the court. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
"I don't want the police to have it because this is vital evidence." | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Later on, the prosecution dropped that charge against the miners. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
November 1984 was a hard and bitter month | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
in the story of the strike. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
From the start of the month, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
there was an increase in miners returning to work | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
though the numbers were still very small in Wales | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
and remained so until the end. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
One of the pits struggling to hold the line | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
was Cynheidre in the west of the coalfield. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
I'm meeting up with the former lodge chairman Tony Ciano | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
and the secretary, Gareth Gower, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
and it's clear that the memory of scabs going back to work | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
still rankles with them. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
I remember the day they had the first wage packet. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
And they were going out on the coach and waving their pay packets. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
-The working miners were waving their pay packets at the pickets? -Yes. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
They weren't actually working. They wouldn't go underground. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
They were just playing about on the surface. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Now, as autumn went into winter, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
we heard from some people that the union was clinging onto the strike | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
by its fingernails. Was that what it was like in Cynheidre? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
I don't think we were clinging by our fingernails. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
We had drips and drabs, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
but I think - me and Gareth were talking about it earlier - | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
up until Christmas, I don't think we had more than 50... | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
Gareth? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
If that. ..men back in work. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
Now, I remember a story about telegraph poles being used | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
to block the way for miners who wanted to return to work. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:43 | |
We couldn't stop them going to their work, to the colliery, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
we tried to hinder them the best we could. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
So one particular day, we decided to meet them. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
There was a gang of us there | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
and we were all going along. All of a sudden, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
there were telegraph poles at the side of the road. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
So, we were walking along and somebody had the bright idea - | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
"If you put these across the road maybe we could stop the scabs | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
"coming through." | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
And their escorts... So, not me... | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
But I know the people involved - | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
they put the telegraph poles across the road... | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
and the next thing a chap... and bang, straight into it. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:23 | |
Of course, they took me into Llanelli - the police station... | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
-To the police station? -To the police station. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
I was there for God knows how long. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:30 | |
And were there many people who would come to you | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
who were clearly suffering hardship at the time? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
There were... Yes. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
We had a death in Pontyates, if I remember. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
And I remember going up to Pontypridd to get them a burial. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
Yes. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:50 | |
The family couldn't afford to bury them? | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
-No. -No. -They couldn't afford the funeral... | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
-so it was the South Wales Miners that paid for the funeral. -Yeah. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:01 | |
Of course, you know, the Government at the time... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
saw it fit that they weren't going to pay us any benefit, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
so the only benefit we were having were the children | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
and the women in the house if they weren't working. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
No single man was having a penny. And they were suffering. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
The suffering of miners and their families made worse by the loss | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
of benefits was raising the level of anger and bitterness in | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
November 1984, now eight months into the strike. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
You could feel the mood darkening all around you. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
But for the national leaders of the NUM it was different. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
They were being carried shoulder high from rally to rally. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
There was a great rally here, in Aberavon, near the steelworks. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
And Arthur Scargill, Peter Heathfield and Mick McGahey... | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
they told an adoring audience that never again would | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
they allow the union to be betrayed as it had been betrayed back in 1926 | 0:47:00 | 0:47:05 | |
by the TUC and by other unions. It was madness because | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
we needed the TUC support, we needed the support of other unions. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
And, all the while, things were becoming more and more difficult... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
for people in the coalfields. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
The November 13th rally at the Afan Lido Leisure Centre | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
was a frenzied event. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
I remember, particularly, the moment when Norman Willis, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
the general secretary of the TUC, condemned picket-line violence. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
Violence creates more violence. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
And out of that extra violence... | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
..is built, not solidarity... | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
but despair and defeatism. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
DISSENT BOOING | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
Amongst the boos, a hangman's noose was let down from the gantry above. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
It may have been a bad joke, but I found it deeply disturbing. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
Then came the reply from Scargill, which was perfectly judged | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
to stir up his audience. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
I am not prepared to condemn the actions of my members | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
whose only crime is fighting for the right to work, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
fighting to save their pits, their jobs and the mining communities. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:20 | |
CHEERING | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
I'm privileged to lead you. I salute you. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
The miners united will never be defeated! | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
CHEERING | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
The climate of the strike was becoming more heated and dangerous. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
This is when the biggest tragedy of the strike in Wales happened. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
Along this Heads of the Valleys Road that runs along the northern rim | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
of the South Wales coalfield, an employee of a taxi firm | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
was driving a working miner to Merthyr Vale Colliery | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
early one morning. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
The driver's name was David Wilkie and he was killed when he was hit | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
by a concrete block pushed over the parapet of a bridge | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
by two young, striking miners. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
I don't believe those two young miners intended to kill anyone. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
But it was a tragedy that marked the darkest day of the whole strike. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
Above all, it was a tragedy for Mr Wilkie's family. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
It blighted the lives of the two young men who killed him | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
and who received long prison sentences. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
It undermined public support for the miners and their families | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
who had already been on strike for eight, long, painful months. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
It was a terrible moment that haunted this coalfield from | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
that day forward. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
MUSIC: "Merry Xmas Everybody" by Slade | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
There was a welcome shift of focus in December 1984 | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
as the NUM and the support groups in Wales made plans to give the best | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
Christmas possible to the families of striking miners. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
Amazing things were achieved with toys and turkeys being | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
funded by support groups from places like Hampshire | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
and by other trade unions. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
And there were even gifts received from as far afield as Sweden | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
and Italy. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
But the magic of Christmas soon disappeared... | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
this was a winter without power cuts, the power stations | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
were able to keep going. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
And across Britain miners were steadily drifting back to work | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
with no prospect of a negotiated end to the strike in sight. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Terry Thomas remembers the bitter | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
and tragic final months very clearly. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
There were men coming into my office in tears. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
Their houses were being repossessed. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Their marriages were breaking up. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
There was one came - the wedding of his daughter had been planned | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
for a long, long time, even before the strike started - | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
that had gone. And he was crying in the office to me. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Not because he didn't believe... | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
in the strike. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:21 | |
Not because he didn't believe that we should defend our industry and | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
defend our communities, but because he didn't have anything else to give. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:30 | |
He had given all he had to give. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
And the question I posed at national level... | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
..what happens... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:39 | |
..when more than 50% of the members of the NUM have gone back to work? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
Who, then, do we represent? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
And the answer that I received... | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
from the national president - | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
"The hard core will stay out." | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
No money. I'm up to my neck in debt. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
And I want to pay it off. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
But this lodge did vote on Saturday to continue the strike. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
Yes, it was 111 to 80. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
But I said before that meeting I'd decided that I would go back to work | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
and there's a lot more of us with me. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
The rank and file executive and elected officials | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
of the South Wales Miners showed extraordinary courage and leadership | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
in late February, early March of 1985. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
By then, thousands of miners across all of the coalfields | 0:52:23 | 0:52:28 | |
had abandoned the strike and were returning to work. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
In the face of this - the NUM president, Arthur Scargill, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
and his chief lieutenants seemed incapable of doing anything | 0:52:35 | 0:52:40 | |
other than urging the miners who were still on strike | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
to stand firm. Only South Wales with 90% of its miners still on strike | 0:52:43 | 0:52:50 | |
had the courage and determination to step in and fill that vacuum. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:56 | |
On St David's Day, 1985 | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
the South Wales area passed | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
a resolution for a return to work without a settlement, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
which its delegates then had to present to a national conference | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
in London, two days later. It was a bitter event. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
CLAMOUR AND SHOUTING | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
After coming down from that rostrum | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
and moving a resolution for a return to work... | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
which the conference supported, the conference voted in favour | 0:53:20 | 0:53:25 | |
of the South Wales' recommendation that we return to work... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
to march out of that conference, to be spat at, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
kicked and called "scabs" | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
after leading the strike for a whole 12 months... | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
that was the definition of the mob... the mob that was outside. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:43 | |
SHOUTING | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
March 5th saw the entire coalfield return to work. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
-BAND PLAYS -Some of the most famous scenes in Wales took place | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
at the Mardy Colliery, where a brass band led a huge procession of | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
miners, their families and supporters. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
CHEERING | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
We marched up the road and I'm playing trombone in the front. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
I played in the local colliery band. We marched, or walked up the road | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
and that was the end of the miners' strike. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
It was a highly-emotional event. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
But we were staring into a future of mass pit closures, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
a process that was always on the cards, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
but which might have been made worse by the strike itself. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
Heavy industry largely disappeared in Wales. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
But were we right in the strike when we said that the communities would disappear too? | 0:54:38 | 0:54:44 | |
The people of the coalfield were convinced that this would be | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
the case - close a pit, kill a community. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
I mean, let's be honest, a lot of us... Who's going to buy our houses? | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
Nobody is going to give us a half what the houses are worth now | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
cos we've done them up. No, cos there's no money in the valley. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
Close this pit, they may as well flood the valley cos there's nothing there, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
nothing at all. It wouldn't surprise me to know they want to flood | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
the valley because take the pit away, and I'm telling you, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
they may as well make a reservoir out of it cos there's nothing. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
But I think we have to remember that by the 1980s | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
very few communities were actually dependent on work in the mines. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
You have to ask how big an impact there's been across | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
the whole of South Wales from the loss of 20,000 coal jobs | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
and the closure of 22 pits in the 1980s alone. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
But many are convinced that there's been a disastrous decline | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
in the quality of employment, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
which was once provided by coal and steel. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
There have been some very negative impacts of the absence of that | 0:55:47 | 0:55:52 | |
kind of work, I think. Particularly the unemployment rate of young boys. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
That's the brilliance of those industries that they took | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
unskilled boys from school | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
and they trained them and developed | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
them and the rest of it. And in the surveys that were done | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
showed that people who went into other jobs | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
would largely go into jobs that were £100 a week less, really. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
I was talking with someone up in Blaenau the other day and they said, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
"What's Blaenau like now?" And I said, "Well, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
"there's all the shops closed and there's nothing for the kids to do." | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
They just... | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
And people complain that they're walking round the streets, well, what else can they do? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
But I'm struck by the way communities have adapted. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
And one of the strongest examples of tenacious survival | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
has been the Dove Workshop in Banwen. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
We knew that we couldn't do it on our own. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
We'd have to work in partnership with other providers. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
Like the university, the colleges... | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
the Workers' Educational Association, the local authority | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
and we learnt all that from the strike. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
We thought, "Well, it worked in the strike" | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
and so we can transfer those experiences to setting up | 0:56:52 | 0:56:57 | |
a workshop for women and women it was for | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
and women were going to run it and make the decisions. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
It's now become a social enterprise, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
which meets the needs of everybody in the community - | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
men, women and children. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
Making this film has brought back to me vivid memories | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
of the passionate commitment with which so many | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
extraordinary men and women defended their jobs and their communities | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
30 years ago. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
It many ways it's futile now to try | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
and argue about what might have happened to the coal industry | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
had the Government and Arthur Scargill been more prepared | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
to negotiate and to compromise. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
The big truth is Margaret Thatcher had taken enormous care in choosing | 0:57:37 | 0:57:42 | |
the right moment to take on the miners in the late winter of 1984. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
Because this was a political battle, one designed to destroy | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
the excessive power of trade unions | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
and whose outcome has never been overturned by Labour governments. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
There would have been neither freedom nor order in Britain if we'd | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
given in to violence. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 | |
There'd have been no hope for any prosperous industry | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
if people had gone on strike, really, for bigger and bigger | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
subsidies from the taxpayer. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
As for us on the miners' side we were sucked into a confrontation | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
with the State that, despite the most mighty and heroic | 0:58:17 | 0:58:22 | |
resistance by men and women across coalfields like South Wales, | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
we were never going to win. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
The miners' strike had changed British history. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
The once mighty coal industry shrank into insignificance. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
And the whole of the trade union movement | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
reeled from the hammer blow. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:40 | |
In many ways, it has never recovered. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 |