The Necessary War


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On 5th October 1915,

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my great-uncle, Lieutenant Aubrey Hastings,

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of the 7th East Surrey Regiment,

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was killed in France,

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blown to pieces in his trench, during the Battle of Loos.

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I grew up with his story, reading the unhappy letters that he wrote

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amid the poppies of the battlefield,

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along with those of a grandfather

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and another great-uncle who survived.

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But this is the first time I've visited the cemetery

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at Fouquieres-les-Bethune where Aubrey is buried,

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one of some 900,000 British Empire dead of the First World War.

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Almost everyone in this country shares such links

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with that catastrophe for our forefathers and for Europe.

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It's a funny business,

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looking down at the last resting place

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of one of my own family, whom I never met,

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who died in a struggle I've spent decades reading about.

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Its horror is not in doubt.

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But where I part company from what we might call

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"the Blackadder take on history"

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is to believe that it was also futile -

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that it didn't matter which side won.

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In the 21st century, the British people are deeply wedded to the idea

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that the Second World War was our "good" war,

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the First our "bad" one.

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But what if we'd stayed out?

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What if Germany had won?

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In my opinion, the deaths of Aubrey Hastings

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and hundred of thousands of his comrades were assuredly a great tragedy,

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but they were not for nothing.

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Many British people honour the men who fought and died

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with a mixture of sorrow and a sense of waste...

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..a belief that no cause could have justified so horrendous a sacrifice.

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BUGLE PLAYS "Last Post"

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But a hundred years after the outbreak,

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it seems time to revisit the reasons we went to war in 1914.

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I want to argue that, far from Britain having plunged

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into a bloodbath we could have stayed out of,

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our part in the First World War was tragically necessary.

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Any exploration of why Britain had to go to war in 1914

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must start on the continent of Europe.

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The spark was ignited in the Balkans on 28th June,

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when Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb,

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shot dead Archduke Franz Ferdinand,

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heir to the Austrian throne.

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The Empire's rulers immediately determined to exploit the outrage

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to justify invading neighbouring Serbia,

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where the murder weapons had come from.

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But the Russians were Serbia's close allies,

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and they made it plain they would fight to protect their fellow Slavs.

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Through July 1914,

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the great continental powers waded ever deeper into crisis.

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But from the outset, the key player was Germany.

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On 6th July, its rulers pledged the Austrians

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their unconditional support to smash Serbia,

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promising to deal with Russia and its own ally France,

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if they intervened.

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Day by day, it became plainer

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that none of the big players would back down,

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and thus began the countdown to the First World War.

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Some historians have argued that once it became clear

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that Austria and Germany were going to war with France and Russia,

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we, the British, should simply have let them get on with it, stayed out,

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that all that would have come out of a German victory

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was a fast-forwarded version of today's European Union.

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I don't buy that.

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The people who were running Germany cared nothing for democracy

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or other people's freedoms.

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Once the shooting started,

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it became plain that their war aims were little different

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from those of Hitler 35 years later,

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excepting only the Jewish genocide.

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The causes of the war are hugely complicated,

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with the death of the Archduke only setting in motion existing forces.

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No one nation deserves all the blame.

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But there's an overriding case

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that German recklessness contributed more than anything else

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to make a conflict intended to settle a local score

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escalate into a European war.

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And once the fighting and dying started,

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it became cruelly apparent

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that a Germany victory would be a disaster for Europe.

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In 1914, Germany was by far the most powerful state on the continent,

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the most advanced society in Europe.

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Industrially, it was racing ahead of its rivals in every field,

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from pharmaceuticals to automobile design.

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Socially, it pioneered a welfare state

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by creating unemployment insurance and old age pensions.

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German culture was revered across the world.

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But it became Europe's historic tragedy

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that the German system of government

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lagged generations behind everything else in the country.

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The Empire's elected parliament

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had the largest socialist party

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in Europe.

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But while the Reichstag

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dominated domestic affairs,

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it was the Kaiser, the so-called All Highest, Wilhelm II,

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who still made every key appointment

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and controlled decisions about war and peace.

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Wilhelm was a weak man who sought to masquerade as a strong one,

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chronically unstable and prone to violent mood swings.

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He wasn't at heart a warmonger as, of course, Hitler was,

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but he loved to play at soldiers.

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He offered threats and blandishments to other powers,

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which he ALWAYS got in the wrong order.

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'Professor John Rohl has spent a lifetime

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'studying and writing about the Kaiser.'

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How personally influential was Kaiser Wilhelm

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in the decision for war?

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Kaiser Wilhelm took over the reins from his father in 1888

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and inherited Bismarck's immense power himself

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when he threw Bismarck out, but not content with that,

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he then went back to an almost 18th-century notion of monarchy,

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in other words, he insisted on ruling personally.

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With the result that he appointed all ministers, all the chancellors,

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all the generals, all the admirals himself, personally,

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according to his likes and dislikes.

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He was an extremely assertive bully.

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It's an extraordinary situation that you had a socialist majority,

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violently anti militarist majority, in the Reichstag and yet,

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exercising no influence at all, really,

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over this regime and foreign policy.

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Yeah, one of the reasons, I believe, behind the German generals' decision

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to go to war around about 1914 was the rising tide of democracy at home.

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The thinking was, "Well, if we leave it too long,

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"we will not be able to get our way and do what we really need to do

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"to make Germany great, so we'd better go before that time comes."

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The most powerful institution in Wilhelm's Empire,

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and indeed in all continental Europe, was the German Army.

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The Kaiser was also eager to extend his power across the seas,

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and personally promoted the creation of a big-gun navy.

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This thoroughly alarmed the British, who feared Germany's fleet

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as a threat to their global trade routes and empire.

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As Queen Victoria's grandson,

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Wilhelm retained some respect for her people,

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but he was determined that neither he

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nor his empire should defer to them.

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It's almost as if he feels obliged

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to be more military and more masculine than any other monarch,

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perhaps because there's always the whiff of Englishness about him,

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his mother being English, he was always very keen to say,

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"No, no, I'm not English,

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"I'm Prussian, I'm extremely Prussian."

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So there's this autocratic side to him, there's extreme militarism.

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But some of it does come from England.

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For example, the love of the navy, the idea that he has a mission

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to become THE superpower in Europe, in place of Britain.

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He feels he has a right as leader of this new,

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energized Germany after unification.

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Fear of Germany's might, and of its aspirations to dominate Europe,

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prompted Russia and France to forge a close military alliance.

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Although Britain's government made no firm written commitment,

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it posted an option on supporting them in the event of war.

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Many British people recoiled from the idea of joining

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an alliance with Tsar Nicholas II,

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whose people had been Britain's enemies through the 19th century.

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But the fears of Europe's rulers

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that a general war would result from their rivalries

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caused every nation

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to huddle close to its friends.

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The Germans to the Austrians,

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the Russians to the French,

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with the British as cautious maybes.

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Germany's warlords were haunted by fears of Russia's growing might.

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Some of them were convinced

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that challenging the Tsar's armies sooner rather than later

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offered Germany the best chance of victory.

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This is one of many German memorials

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to Prussia's 19th-century military triumphs.

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Instead of perceiving big wars, as we do today,

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as universal tragedies,

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the Kaiser's generals, and sometimes Wilhelm himself,

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believed that trial by battle was an acceptable instrument of policy.

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All Germany's leaders were insecure, even paranoid,

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about threats at home from the socialists,

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abroad from Russia and France,

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probably backed in a showdown by Britain.

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In those days, not many people thought seriously about economics.

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The Kaiser and his generals counted soldiers, they failed to realise

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that their country was achieving dominance of Europe

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without firing a shot through its industrial power.

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By 1914, so many Germans had come to believe

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that a European clash in arms was inevitable

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that their fatalism contributed mightily to bringing this about.

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The Kaiser, who was almost certainly clinically unstable,

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was one of three men in Germany

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who took the key decisions which resulted in war.

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To this day, historians argue fiercely

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about which pulled the levers to precipitate disaster.

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The others were the Chancellor, Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg,

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appointed by Wilhelm,

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and General Helmuth von Moltke, head of the Army.

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The Kaiser and the Chancellor were the ones who, on 6th July,

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promised Austria Germany's support against Serbia.

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Bethmann Hollweg,

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knowing that Russia was committed to protect the Serbs,

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pressed the Austrians to hurry their invasion to pre-empt the Tsar.

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This has become known as Berlin's "blank cheque",

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keystone of the argument that Germany was most blameworthy

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for the horrors that followed.

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'Professor Sir Hew Strachan has been studying

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'and chronicling the war for over 30 years.

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'He agrees that Berlin took a huge gamble.'

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The Germans actively encouraged the Austrians

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not merely to invade Serbia, but to get on and do it

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even more quickly than they were ready to do it.

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Yes, partly because I think if they do it quickly,

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you'll get away with it - you'll be able to crush Serbia,

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there'll be a Balkan war that's over so quick that nobody will have time to intervene,

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so the presumption here is speed

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and what Berlin is doing is constantly taking best-case advice.

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You know, will Russia stay out of this war

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because they're worried there will be a revolution in Russia?

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The best answer is that, yes, they will, because there has been

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a revolution in Russia in 1905 and there might be again.

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So they work with that assumption. Whereas, in fact, of course,

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the Tsar's going to be put under tremendous pressure

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to back the south Slavs in Serbia.

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But throughout July, the one nation surely that had the power

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to stop this process, if the Germans had said to the Austrians,

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"Stop, do not invade Serbia,"

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there would have not been a general European war, would there?

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That's right, I think they had the power to say no.

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I mean, after all, the blank cheque is central

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and the blank cheque is issued by Germany,

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and Germany then seems to show remarkable insouciance

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as to how that cheque will be used, you know.

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Austria-Hungary still has to cash it,

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it's Austria-Hungary that has to initiate war.

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But absolutely, the balance then shifts to Berlin

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and if any power has the capacity to stop it, it's Berlin,

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particularly at the very end of the crisis.

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Army chief of staff, Helmuth von Moltke,

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who answered only to the Kaiser, also played a pivotal role.

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On 28th July, Wilhelm and Bethmann Hollweg

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experienced a brief panic attack.

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The looming war now looked far bigger and graver

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than they'd bargained for.

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But Moltke, on his own initiative, telegraphed the Austrians

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and urged them to hasten their attack.

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The chief of staff had long argued

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that if Germany must face a European showdown,

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it was better to have it before the Russian's big armaments expansion programme was complete.

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At an imperial council meeting in December 1912,

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he's reliably reported as saying,

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"War, and the sooner the better."

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'Annika Mombauer is a German scholar

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'who has written a biography of the chief of staff

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'which emphasises his role in the July crisis.'

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Where did Moltke fit into the decision for war?

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Well, Moltke very much advocates war.

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He thinks that war is inevitable in the long run.

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He thinks that eventually Russia will become too strong,

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too militarily powerful for Germany to defeat her.

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And therefore, he creates an atmosphere in which war seems

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a good solution out of a perceived problem.

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One thing that seems extraordinary to us about how dysfunctional

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the German government was in July 1914 is that here you've got Moltke,

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who's supposed to be just the head of the army.

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And at a critical moment, July 28th,

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he sends a telegram to Vienna, to the Austrians,

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telling them to get on with invading Serbia,

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and it does seem an extraordinary reflection of both

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how reckless Moltke could be and of how powerful he was.

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Well, you're right, he does send that telegram,

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and in Vienna, they end up saying, "Well, who actually...?

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-"Who rules in Berlin?!

-Who rules in Berlin?

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"Moltke or Bethmann?" Or was it, in fact, the Kaiser?

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So, yes, you're completely right.

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He exceeds his authority, if you like, by sending this telegram.

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Germany's leadership in July 1914 was extraordinarily reckless

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in accepting the risk that by promoting a small Balkan war,

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they would trigger a huge European one.

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When it became plain that the Russians would fight

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rather than see Serbia go under,

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the Germans refused to take the one step

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that could have prevented a general European catastrophe -

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telling the Austrians to pull back.

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Instead, they themselves prepared to mobilise against Russia.

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And that's why, I believe,

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they deserve most blame for all that followed.

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On 28th July,

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Austria declared war on Serbia

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and two days later, the Tsar ordered his army to mobilise.

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Germany then issued two ultimatums - one to Russia

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and another to France, its ally.

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Neither was expected to accept,

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and few of the Kaiser's generals wished them to.

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Berlin then set in motion its hugely ambitious war plan,

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designed to crush France before turning on Russia.

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Created almost a decade earlier

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by Moltke's predecessor,

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Count Alfred von Schlieffen,

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the plan required an invasion of France by way of its back door,

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through neutral Belgium.

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It was the German commitment

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to overrun Belgium

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which suddenly propelled Britain,

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hitherto a mere spectator of the continental drama,

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to the forefront of the stage.

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Under a treaty signed in 1839,

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this country was among the guarantors of Belgian neutrality.

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I'm one of those who still wonder

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whether Britain really would have come in

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if it hadn't been for the invasion of Belgium.

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-Moltke got this dead wrong, didn't he?

-He did, he did.

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He was in an impossible situation,

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militarily speaking, or strategically speaking,

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because Germany is in a sense encircled

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by France in the west and Russia in the east

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and the only way he thinks he can win this war is by implementing

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the so-called Schlieffen Plan, and that plan can only work

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if France is defeated quickly, and that means invading Belgium.

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But interestingly, in France, the chief of staff similarly

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thinks our best chance would be to advance through Belgium.

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But the politicians, the diplomats tell him,

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"We can't do that because of Britain."

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The British told France, "On no account go into Belgium."

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Exactly, exactly. And so, had Germany also respected Belgian neutrality,

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there would have been all sorts of possibilities right at the end

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of July and early in August perhaps to come to a different outcome.

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Thus, in the first days of August 1914,

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Germany prepared to invade and crush France in a campaign of 40 days,

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before turning on Russia.

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Europe had a war.

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But must the British be in it?

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Would they fight?

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Basking in the balmy summer of 1914,

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and preoccupied

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by industrial turmoil

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and the threat of Irish civil war,

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the British people had scant

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appetite for a continental conflict.

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But Liberal Prime Minister Herbert Asquith,

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and several key cabinet colleagues, were appalled by the prospect

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of Germany achieving dominance of Europe.

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They doubted that Britain could merely remain a bystander

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while this happened.

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One such was the Foreign Secretary, Sir Edward Grey,

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who played a critical role.

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Sir Edward Grey is traditionally seen

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as a reticent English gentleman,

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whose grand passions were fly-fishing and bird-watching,

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both of which he wrote good books about.

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But more recently, he's become a focus of fierce controversy.

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Some historians claim that Grey made rash secret commitments to the French

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which dragged us unnecessarily into the war.

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For centuries, it had been a British article of faith

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that a balance of power,

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which denied absolute dominance to any one nation,

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must be maintained on the continent.

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Between 1908 and 1914,

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when Grey was not casting a fly on bright waters,

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he held secret talks with the French about British support

0:21:420:21:46

in the event of a German attack.

0:21:460:21:48

The Foreign Secretary was less clever and less of a statesman

0:21:500:21:54

than his admirers thought.

0:21:540:21:55

But the claim that he should be damned for dragging Britain

0:21:570:22:00

into an unnecessary war doesn't stand up.

0:22:000:22:03

I suggest that Grey was a realist about the difficulty,

0:22:050:22:08

indeed impossibility, of Britain simply standing by doing nothing

0:22:080:22:13

while Germany conquered Europe.

0:22:130:22:16

If the French and Russians had been beaten,

0:22:160:22:18

as they almost certainly would have been if Britain hadn't come in,

0:22:180:22:22

who can imagine a victorious Germany allowing Britain to continue

0:22:220:22:26

ruling the waves and the world's financial system

0:22:260:22:30

any more than Hitler would have done

0:22:300:22:31

if Churchill had tried to strike a deal with him in 1940?

0:22:310:22:35

Nothing Grey said beforehand could have deterred the Germans,

0:22:370:22:41

because they had weighed Britain's military power and discounted it.

0:22:410:22:46

The little British Army seemed incapable of influencing

0:22:470:22:50

a huge clash of continental hosts.

0:22:500:22:53

The Royal Navy was thought irrelevant because,

0:22:540:22:57

in the Kaiser's scornful words,

0:22:570:22:59

"Dreadnoughts have no wheels."

0:22:590:23:01

The Foreign Secretary's secret and unwritten assurances to France

0:23:050:23:09

seem to me to have reflected not warmongering,

0:23:090:23:12

but prudent and essential precaution.

0:23:120:23:14

In July 1914, by proposing an immediate European conference,

0:23:160:23:21

Grey did all that he could to avert war.

0:23:210:23:24

'Sir Michael Howard is Britain's most distinguished living historian.

0:23:270:23:31

'He and I have spent many hours discussing the vast puzzle of 1914

0:23:310:23:36

'and, crucially, whether Britain could have done more to avert disaster.'

0:23:360:23:41

Grey's proposal, which they rejected out of hand,

0:23:410:23:44

to address the confrontation between Austria-Hungary

0:23:440:23:47

and Serbia by having a peace conference -

0:23:470:23:49

it wasn't a contemptible proposal, was it?

0:23:490:23:51

No, it was an absolutely typical Grey thing to do.

0:23:510:23:56

A typical sort of Liberal solution and...

0:23:560:24:00

-But the Germans rejected it flatly.

-The Germans rejected it flatly

0:24:000:24:03

because this would have meant letting down the Austrians

0:24:030:24:05

and they were not going to let down the Austrians.

0:24:050:24:07

There was this sense throughout all classes in Austria,

0:24:070:24:11

it is time to finish with the Serbs.

0:24:110:24:14

If we don't finish with the Serbs, they will nibble us to death.

0:24:140:24:17

This is the moment to strike.

0:24:170:24:19

The Germans knowing this was the case were not going to bring in

0:24:190:24:24

the Austrians to debate about what their future was going to be.

0:24:240:24:28

So to that extent also, you could say that the Germans were

0:24:280:24:32

responsible for not letting there be a peaceful settlement.

0:24:320:24:38

On 2nd August,

0:24:400:24:41

the Germans issued an ultimatum to King Albert of Belgium

0:24:410:24:45

demanding passage for their armies.

0:24:450:24:47

He flatly refused and appealed to Britain as a guarantor

0:24:480:24:52

of his country's neutrality.

0:24:520:24:54

Thus, it fell to Sir Edward Grey

0:24:550:24:58

to convince a still reluctant British parliament

0:24:580:25:02

of the necessity for Britain to join the war on the continent.

0:25:020:25:05

On the afternoon of 3rd August,

0:25:080:25:10

Grey delivered the most important speech of his life

0:25:100:25:13

to the House of Commons.

0:25:130:25:15

By now, most of the Cabinet believed that Britain must fight

0:25:150:25:19

in the name of Belgium's rights.

0:25:190:25:22

"Could this country," Grey demanded,

0:25:220:25:24

"stand by and watch the direst crime that ever stained human history,

0:25:240:25:28

"and thus become participators in the sin?"

0:25:280:25:32

He added,

0:25:320:25:34

"We should, I believe,

0:25:340:25:36

"sacrifice our respect and good name before the world

0:25:360:25:39

"and should not escape the most serious and grave consequences."

0:25:390:25:44

This was one of those extraordinary parliamentary occasions that changed history.

0:25:450:25:50

It persuaded much of the Liberal Party,

0:25:500:25:53

hitherto bitterly hostile to intervention,

0:25:530:25:55

now to support it - as the Conservative opposition already did.

0:25:550:26:00

Thus, on 4th August 1914,

0:26:010:26:04

after Berlin rejected an ultimatum

0:26:040:26:06

demanding its withdrawal from Belgium,

0:26:060:26:09

Britain declared war on Germany.

0:26:090:26:12

Was Belgium the real reason that Britain went to war in 1914

0:26:150:26:22

or, as some historians nowadays try to argue,

0:26:220:26:24

"Oh, it was just a pretext,"

0:26:240:26:25

-that the British government really wanted to fight anyway?

-Yeah.

0:26:250:26:28

Well, I would tend to say, "It's both and."

0:26:280:26:31

There are two arguments here.

0:26:310:26:34

One is the security of Belgium

0:26:340:26:37

and the absence of a dominant power on the mainland of Europe

0:26:370:26:41

is seen as central to Britain's strategic position.

0:26:410:26:44

There can't be an equivalent of Napoleon, facing Britain across

0:26:440:26:47

the Channel and dominating Britain's routes to the rest of the world.

0:26:470:26:51

The second issue is - does it matter that Germany

0:26:510:26:56

disregards its international obligations, enters Belgium,

0:26:560:26:59

which is a neutral state, and fails to reflect

0:26:590:27:02

both international law and the rights of small nations?

0:27:020:27:06

And the answer is it does matter and it matters because, for Britain,

0:27:060:27:10

international law and what we might now see as morality, also matters.

0:27:100:27:14

But it's more fundamental than that,

0:27:140:27:16

because Britain is an economic power, a trading power,

0:27:160:27:20

a power that depends on its shipping,

0:27:200:27:23

actually, international law is more than just a sense

0:27:230:27:27

of legal, of moral, obligation.

0:27:270:27:29

It's also a matter of economic necessity.

0:27:290:27:31

You need to respect international law

0:27:310:27:33

to make sure that Britain can continue to exercise

0:27:330:27:37

the degree of leverage it does as a neutral itself.

0:27:370:27:42

Well, some people say now, "Oh, it was incredibly silly for Britain

0:27:420:27:46

"to get involved in this horrific experience of the First World War

0:27:460:27:49

"just because the German Army marched into Belgium."

0:27:490:27:52

But actually, it seems to me,

0:27:520:27:54

it was a pretty good reason for going to war.

0:27:540:27:57

It was an excellent reason for going to war.

0:27:570:27:59

And it did something which, at the beginning of the July crisis,

0:27:590:28:02

-seemed unimaginable to many, which is...

-It united the British people.

0:28:020:28:05

It united the British people. United the Cabinet and united the people.

0:28:050:28:09

As Britain mobilised its little army in that first week of August,

0:28:160:28:20

Germany's vast host was already surging into Belgium.

0:28:200:28:24

Within days, the first reports appeared in the world's newspapers

0:28:310:28:34

describing the extraordinarily brutal conduct of German troops

0:28:340:28:39

towards the Belgian people.

0:28:390:28:40

They were not merely carelessly destroying homes and villages -

0:28:430:28:47

all invading armies do that.

0:28:470:28:49

They were seizing and killing civilian hostages

0:28:490:28:52

in scores and hundreds.

0:28:520:28:54

Even before 1914,

0:28:560:28:58

the Kaiser's Army had earned a reputation for exceptional brutality.

0:28:580:29:02

Between 1904 and 1907,

0:29:030:29:05

when the Herero and Nama tribes rebelled against German colonial

0:29:050:29:09

rule in South West Africa,

0:29:090:29:11

the Kaiser's soldiers killed

0:29:110:29:14

or deliberately starved to death

0:29:140:29:16

almost 100,000 native people.

0:29:160:29:18

Wilhelm applauded and decorated the officer responsible.

0:29:210:29:25

Even by the imperial standards of the day,

0:29:270:29:30

this action was worse than any British excess.

0:29:300:29:33

But the Herero genocide had been far away in Africa.

0:29:380:29:42

In August 1914, world opinion was stunned by German savagery

0:29:420:29:47

towards fellow Europeans.

0:29:470:29:49

In Flanders, the destruction of the medieval university town of Louvain,

0:29:510:29:56

today rebuilt from ashes,

0:29:560:29:58

became a symbol of the excesses of the Kaiser's soldiers,

0:29:580:30:02

endorsed by Berlin.

0:30:020:30:04

Professor John Horne has exhaustively researched

0:30:060:30:10

and catalogued the German Army's actions

0:30:100:30:12

in Berlin and France during 1914.

0:30:120:30:15

John, we are here, in the university library at Louvain,

0:30:170:30:21

what happened here?

0:30:210:30:22

Well, on 25th August, there was the sound of fighting -

0:30:220:30:27

German soldiers shooting at what they claimed was a civilian insurrection.

0:30:270:30:32

Round about 11 o'clock in the evening,

0:30:320:30:34

this beautiful university library was broken into by the German soldiers

0:30:340:30:38

and deliberately set fire.

0:30:380:30:40

One young Jesuit, Father Dupierreux, had written in his notebook

0:30:400:30:45

that he thought the Germans, in burning down the library,

0:30:450:30:47

had done something as barbaric

0:30:470:30:49

as the destruction of the library of Alexandria in antiquity.

0:30:490:30:53

This was seized by German soldiers and he was summarily executed.

0:30:530:30:57

And by the 29th or the 30th,

0:30:570:30:59

you have to imagine Louvain as an almost empty town.

0:30:590:31:03

The population that hadn't been deported gradually straggled back in

0:31:030:31:06

to find between 1,500 and 2,000 buildings destroyed,

0:31:060:31:10

and well over 240 of their own townspeople had been killed.

0:31:100:31:15

All armies in all wars can behave very badly.

0:31:150:31:18

What seems different about what happened in Belgium in 1914

0:31:180:31:22

was that it wasn't just the question of the odd soldiers

0:31:220:31:25

brutally murdering a few civilians,

0:31:250:31:27

they were systematically shooting them in scores

0:31:270:31:30

-and sometimes in hundreds as hostages.

-You are quite right.

0:31:300:31:33

What we've just described in Louvain was a terrible incident

0:31:330:31:37

and it immediately grabbed the international headlines.

0:31:370:31:39

But it was typical of something that happened across the whole

0:31:390:31:42

invasion front, in Belgium and also in eastern France.

0:31:420:31:46

And it wasn't the worst case in terms of the death rate.

0:31:460:31:49

Dinant was destroyed as a town

0:31:490:31:51

and 674 of its inhabitants executed two days before...

0:31:510:31:54

-In cold blood?

-In cold blood.

0:31:540:31:57

In the first weeks of the war,

0:32:030:32:05

nearly 6,500 civilians were executed by German troops

0:32:050:32:10

in Belgium and France.

0:32:100:32:11

Berlin claimed that they were merely exacting legitimate reprisals

0:32:120:32:17

for resistance by civilians, so-called franc-tireurs,

0:32:170:32:21

'but John Horne rejects this.'

0:32:210:32:23

You found no evidence at all of franc-tireurs activity, did you,

0:32:230:32:26

of guerrilla activity against the Germans?

0:32:260:32:28

None, it was... er, apart from the odd

0:32:280:32:31

very isolated incident,

0:32:310:32:32

but nothing which justified the German accusations,

0:32:320:32:34

which was that there had been what they called a "Volkskrieg",

0:32:340:32:37

a people's war, a mass uprising.

0:32:370:32:39

And the Kaiser, already by 9th August, only a week into the war,

0:32:390:32:43

is accusing the King of the Belgians of fermenting such an uprising.

0:32:430:32:47

It didn't happen.

0:32:470:32:48

But it was the institutional response of the German generals

0:32:480:32:52

and right up to the Kaiser that seems striking.

0:32:520:32:54

And it does seem to say something about the character of the regime.

0:32:540:32:58

That's right.

0:32:580:32:59

Because, very quickly, what starts out as panics

0:32:590:33:03

and localised responses by German soldiers

0:33:030:33:06

is immediately endorsed by the whole German command structure.

0:33:060:33:10

And then what swings into play is a series of very brutal reprisals,

0:33:100:33:15

which are justified in terms of German military doctrine

0:33:150:33:18

as to what you do when you're faced with civilian uprising.

0:33:180:33:21

For years, apologists for Germany claimed that the Belgian atrocities

0:33:230:33:28

were figments of Allied propaganda.

0:33:280:33:30

Some of the stories that made headlines in 1914,

0:33:310:33:34

for instance, claims that thousands of babies

0:33:340:33:37

were maimed by German soldiers, were indeed fabrications.

0:33:370:33:40

But a big truth persists -

0:33:430:33:45

the German Army behaved with systemic barbarity

0:33:450:33:48

during its advance across Belgium and France.

0:33:480:33:51

Its actions persuaded many hitherto doubting British people

0:33:520:33:56

that they had chosen the right side

0:33:560:33:58

in the ghastly conflict that was unfolding.

0:33:580:34:01

Some historians today claim that the British government's decision

0:34:030:34:06

to go to war in defence of Belgium's neutrality was simply a fig leaf,

0:34:060:34:11

a pretence, when really, it was all simply

0:34:110:34:13

about supporting the French against the Germans.

0:34:130:34:16

I'd put it a bit differently.

0:34:160:34:18

Yes, it's true that some key ministers wanted to fight anyway,

0:34:180:34:22

but Belgium provided a tipping point -

0:34:220:34:24

all sorts of British people who cared nothing for Serbia or Russia

0:34:240:34:28

could easily get their minds around the notion

0:34:280:34:31

that it was outrageous that the most powerful army in Europe

0:34:310:34:34

proposed to crush beneath its boots a small state

0:34:340:34:37

simply to serve the convenience of the Schlieffen Plan.

0:34:370:34:40

And wasn't that indeed a decent and honourable reason

0:34:410:34:45

for Britain to go to war?

0:34:450:34:46

'Had Germany been victorious on the continent,

0:34:490:34:52

'Britain would have found itself in a desperate and lonely predicament.'

0:34:520:34:57

If the Germans had won, and now I hypothesise, there would have

0:34:570:35:00

been an Anglo-German war within a matter of years.

0:35:000:35:03

The fear in Britain was that a power which unified the continent

0:35:030:35:08

would then be in a position

0:35:080:35:10

to challenge Britain's command of the sea.

0:35:100:35:12

If she commanded, challenged,

0:35:120:35:14

and successfully overturned Britain's command of the sea,

0:35:140:35:17

not only would we no longer have an empire,

0:35:170:35:20

we would be at the mercy of whoever commanded the whole of Europe.

0:35:200:35:24

That was what the British feared. That was what...

0:35:240:35:27

-And they were right to fear it?

-And they were right to fear it,

0:35:270:35:29

because there was a substantial element in Germany,

0:35:290:35:32

led by the Kaiser,

0:35:320:35:34

whose one objective was to challenge Britain as a world power,

0:35:340:35:38

to build a great navy which could then defeat the British

0:35:380:35:42

and Germany would then become a world power at the expense of the British.

0:35:420:35:47

So if the Germans had won the war,

0:35:470:35:49

I see no way in which they would not have used their dominance of Europe

0:35:490:35:53

to bring the British down.

0:35:530:35:55

So we would not have avoided a war, we would only have postponed one.

0:35:550:35:59

By early September,

0:36:060:36:08

the German Army had swept through Belgium and into France.

0:36:080:36:11

With Berlin believing that its victory was imminent,

0:36:110:36:15

Chancellor Bethmann Hollweg drew up a list

0:36:150:36:17

of his country's demands at the peace talks.

0:36:170:36:20

They included seizing large swathes of land from both France and Russia,

0:36:200:36:26

annexing Luxembourg, making Belgium and Holland vassal states.

0:36:260:36:32

The September Plan, as it became known, was designed to secure

0:36:320:36:36

Germany's absolute political and economic control of Europe.

0:36:360:36:40

But in the second week of September,

0:36:420:36:44

the French Army achieved a historic victory in the Battle of the Marne,

0:36:440:36:48

driving back the Germans from the gates of Paris.

0:36:480:36:51

What followed, in the autumn of 1914,

0:36:530:36:56

finally wrecked Germany's dream of swift victory.

0:36:560:37:00

It also witnessed the first big and seriously bloody battle

0:37:050:37:09

of the war for the British.

0:37:090:37:11

In October, the British Expeditionary Force

0:37:130:37:16

marched towards the old Belgian cloth town of Ypres -

0:37:160:37:20

Wipers, as millions of British soldiers came to know it.

0:37:200:37:25

They arrived there just in time to

0:37:250:37:27

clash head-on with a massive enemy

0:37:270:37:29

offensive - the last great German effort

0:37:290:37:32

to win the war by Christmas.

0:37:320:37:35

What took place in the five weeks of battle around Ypres

0:37:350:37:39

set the pattern for the vision of the First World War

0:37:390:37:42

which has been etched into our national culture ever since.

0:37:420:37:45

Former soldier Clive Harris today guides visitors

0:37:520:37:55

to the battlefields of the First World War,

0:37:550:37:58

and especially those around Ypres.

0:37:580:38:01

'He's brought me to Polygon Wood, one of the most famous,

0:38:020:38:06

'or notorious, landmarks of the desperate struggle in 1914.'

0:38:060:38:11

It's right at the edge of the Menin Road, which runs back towards Ypres,

0:38:110:38:16

which is about five, six kilometres behind us now.

0:38:160:38:18

It sits right at the centre of the battlefield as well,

0:38:180:38:21

so from the moment the Germans attack us on 18th October,

0:38:210:38:24

right through to the last knockings of first Ypres on 11th November,

0:38:240:38:27

this wood here and the two woods just to the rear of us,

0:38:270:38:31

were key as part of the battles.

0:38:310:38:32

This is where the Germans made their last huge push of 1914

0:38:320:38:35

to try to win the war before Christmas?

0:38:350:38:37

They did, yeah. They now realise

0:38:370:38:39

that they needed to knock us out of the war

0:38:390:38:41

and by doing so, they needed to capture the Channel ports.

0:38:410:38:44

And therefore, they moved away from the von Schlieffen Plan

0:38:440:38:46

to a degree and the capture of Ypres, this is the last thing...

0:38:460:38:50

other side of Ypres, there is no defences.

0:38:500:38:52

It was our last chance -

0:38:520:38:53

there is nothing behind us, but the Channel ports.

0:38:530:38:55

-And there were battles all over the shop, small battles all over the wood.

-There were, yeah.

0:38:550:38:59

We tend to think that the British line would be a continual line

0:38:590:39:02

when, in fact, it was more a series of outposts and, quite often,

0:39:020:39:05

units found themselves isolated and having to make small unit charges

0:39:050:39:09

into Germans as opposed to a larger cohesive defence.

0:39:090:39:13

Here, in western Belgium, the war of manoeuvre

0:39:150:39:17

ranging across thousands of square miles that had been waged

0:39:170:39:20

through the late summer of 1914,

0:39:200:39:23

gave way to a stalemate across the Western Front.

0:39:230:39:26

The technology of defence and destruction,

0:39:310:39:33

artillery and machine guns had achieved a dominance

0:39:330:39:36

which confounded the generals of both sides.

0:39:360:39:39

At Ypres, cavalrymen saw their horses almost for the last time,

0:39:420:39:46

before being obliged to join a death grapple on foot.

0:39:460:39:50

Well, we are here, this is the site

0:39:540:39:56

of the Horse Guards memorial

0:39:560:39:57

and it marks an area where the Horse Guards

0:39:570:40:00

fight as infantry pretty much on this spot, we are just on the...

0:40:000:40:03

So they came charging up, dismounted...

0:40:030:40:05

Yeah, initially by horseback.

0:40:050:40:07

This actual spot is where one of the machine gun positions...

0:40:070:40:10

cos it gives us a great arc of fire over the advancing enemy.

0:40:100:40:12

But what seems important here, Clive, it wasn't just

0:40:120:40:15

that the British threw back the German Army,

0:40:150:40:18

it was also that the whole character of the war changed

0:40:180:40:21

for all the armies, that here was where they first came to terms

0:40:210:40:25

with what everybody now understands as the full horror of the Great War, wasn't it?

0:40:250:40:29

Yeah, trench warfare, and this is the end of that war of movement

0:40:290:40:32

that starts in the August, all the way down to the Marne,

0:40:320:40:35

all the way back again,

0:40:350:40:36

and it's here that we start to dig, dig, dig.

0:40:360:40:38

So, yeah, we are on the spot where it changes.

0:40:380:40:40

-And when it started to rain...

-Yeah.

0:40:400:40:42

..they weren't in the earth, they were in the mud.

0:40:420:40:44

Yeah, and you have to learn to cope with things such as trench foot

0:40:440:40:47

and how to get around that,

0:40:470:40:49

and reinforce your trenches to withstand bombardments.

0:40:490:40:52

We're no longer going to see the artillery now in front

0:40:520:40:55

of the infantry firing as field guns. They're going to be behind the lines,

0:40:550:40:58

or, certainly, in sunken lanes and that sort of thing.

0:40:580:41:01

And nobody dared show his head above the parapet?

0:41:010:41:03

No, we go subterranean from now on, that's right.

0:41:030:41:06

Any movement by day would have been suicidal, yeah.

0:41:060:41:09

But the British paid a devastating price

0:41:120:41:14

for their narrow victory at Ypres.

0:41:140:41:16

56,000 British soldiers were killed or wounded in a month.

0:41:180:41:23

The old professional British Army was largely destroyed.

0:41:240:41:28

Thereafter, it would be civilian

0:41:330:41:36

volunteers and, later, conscripts

0:41:360:41:38

who accounted for the overwhelming majority

0:41:380:41:41

of the six million British soldiers who eventually served.

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But however terrible the sacrifice,

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it seems mistaken to imagine that there was ever an easy means

0:41:550:41:59

by which the war could have been ended.

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BLACKADDER CLIP: 'Gentlemen, our long wait is nearly at an end.

0:42:110:42:14

'Tomorrow morning, General Insanity Melchett invites you'

0:42:140:42:17

to a mass slaughter.

0:42:170:42:19

We are going over the top!

0:42:190:42:20

Well, huzzah and hurrah!

0:42:200:42:23

The hugely successful Blackadder series epitomises the enduring

0:42:230:42:27

popular view of the First World War

0:42:270:42:29

that the British Army fell victim to idiot commanders

0:42:290:42:34

devoid of brains or courage.

0:42:340:42:36

Well, best of luck to you all. Sorry I can't be with you,

0:42:370:42:40

but obviously there's no place at the front for an old general

0:42:400:42:43

with a dicky heart and a wooden bladder. Well...

0:42:430:42:45

'Chuff, chuff, then. See you all in Berlin for coffee and cakes.'

0:42:450:42:49

Most of the war's commanders

0:42:500:42:52

really were pretty unlovable and unimaginative men.

0:42:520:42:56

But once the most powerful industrial states in Europe were locked in strife,

0:42:560:43:01

it seems wrong to imagine that even a Wellington or Napoleon could have found an easy road to victory.

0:43:010:43:07

George Orwell wrote, a generation later,

0:43:070:43:10

that the only way to end a war quickly is to lose it.

0:43:100:43:13

He was right.

0:43:130:43:15

The trench stalemate on the Western Front posed intractable problems

0:43:160:43:21

which no commander proved able to solve.

0:43:210:43:25

Generals needed to be able to control their forces by telephone

0:43:250:43:28

and could only do so from behind the front

0:43:280:43:31

rather than at the head of their troops,

0:43:310:43:33

as on history's battlefields.

0:43:330:43:35

But the price of long-distance command was to create

0:43:370:43:40

a divide between the top brass in their chateaux

0:43:400:43:43

and their men, calf-deep in mud,

0:43:430:43:47

which has made an enduring and bitter impact

0:43:470:43:50

on posterity's view of the war.

0:43:500:43:52

In the summer of 1918,

0:43:560:43:58

Allied forces finally broke the stalemate on the Western Front,

0:43:580:44:02

and pushed east across France with the British Army

0:44:020:44:05

taking more prisoners than all their Allied partners put together.

0:44:050:44:09

The Germans, exhausted and demoralised,

0:44:120:44:15

fell back in growing disarray

0:44:150:44:17

until an armistice was signed on 11th November.

0:44:170:44:21

Around ten million combatants,

0:44:260:44:28

900,000 of them from the British Empire, had lost their lives.

0:44:280:44:33

Two months after the shooting stopped, the victorious Allies

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convened a peace conference at the Palace of Versailles outside Paris.

0:44:460:44:50

Their task was enormous,

0:44:520:44:54

their purposes the most ambitious in history.

0:44:540:44:57

The Versailles summit has often since been branded a failure

0:44:590:45:03

which condemned Europe to a further generation of strife.

0:45:030:45:07

Prime Minister Lloyd George,

0:45:090:45:11

French premier Georges Clemenceau

0:45:110:45:14

and American President Woodrow Wilson led the negotiations,

0:45:140:45:17

involving delegations from many other interested nations,

0:45:170:45:21

which lasted for six months, between January and June 1919.

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Their intention was to produce a treaty

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that would not only reshape Europe,

0:45:320:45:34

but also ensure that there could never again be a great war,

0:45:340:45:38

by disarming the Germans and making them pay the costs of the conflict.

0:45:380:45:42

Historian Margaret MacMillan is the author of the most compelling

0:45:450:45:49

and vivid modern narrative of what happened at Versailles.

0:45:490:45:52

What was at stake for the Allied powers at Versailles?

0:45:540:45:59

I think they had two things they had to think about.

0:45:590:46:01

They were deeply concerned about the state of Europe,

0:46:010:46:03

and indeed their own countries included.

0:46:030:46:05

There was real fear of revolution

0:46:050:46:07

and they were worried that the situation might deteriorate.

0:46:070:46:10

What was also at stake, of course, is they were democracies

0:46:100:46:12

and they had to think of their publics and the publics

0:46:120:46:15

had been led to believe and had been kept going in the war

0:46:150:46:17

by the promise that it was going to make a much better world.

0:46:170:46:19

And so what they had to try to do is create a better world...

0:46:190:46:23

-Incredibly ambitious objectives.

-It was very ambitious,

0:46:230:46:25

but then, of course, the First World War is so unusual

0:46:250:46:28

compared to earlier wars, because it was so exhausting,

0:46:280:46:30

that you couldn't just say at the end of it, "Well, that's it, done.

0:46:300:46:33

"We'll make a few border changes and we'll go back to normal." You couldn't go back to normal.

0:46:330:46:37

I seem to remember that the Germans eventually paid less

0:46:370:46:40

than they had made the French pay after they beat the French in 1871.

0:46:400:46:44

What the Allies couldn't say to their own people was,

0:46:440:46:46

"Look, there's no way Germany can pay what really we need to rebuild,"

0:46:460:46:50

because their own people had suffered so much,

0:46:500:46:53

and so they had to put a bill in, but they did was they fudged it.

0:46:530:46:57

They divided the total reparations bill up,

0:46:570:47:00

so the Germans only paid a fraction.

0:47:000:47:01

Once they paid the fraction, they'd pay the rest,

0:47:010:47:03

which of course the Germans never wanted to do.

0:47:030:47:05

The Allies really failed afterwards

0:47:050:47:08

to convince their own peoples

0:47:080:47:10

that their cause had been just, didn't they?

0:47:100:47:12

Well, I suppose the problem with the First World War

0:47:120:47:15

is that the expectations are so high, the promises are so great

0:47:150:47:18

and all sort of promises, as we know, are made during the war

0:47:180:47:21

to try and keep people in the war,

0:47:210:47:22

but there's no way that all those promises can be cashed in after the war is over.

0:47:220:47:26

Abuse fell upon the Versailles Treaty

0:47:270:47:30

almost before ink was dry on the signatures.

0:47:300:47:34

The economist John Maynard Keynes,

0:47:340:47:36

one of the British treasury delegation,

0:47:360:47:39

published a scathing broadside entitled

0:47:390:47:42

The Economic Consequences Of The Peace.

0:47:420:47:45

A strong German sympathiser,

0:47:450:47:48

Keynes made a case that the terms imposed upon Germany

0:47:480:47:51

were both morally unjust and economically foolish.

0:47:510:47:56

How influential was Maynard Keynes in his book

0:47:560:47:59

The Economic Consequences Of The Peace,

0:47:590:48:01

which absolutely damned Versailles?

0:48:010:48:03

It was very influential. I mean, he wrote it very quickly,

0:48:030:48:06

it became a bestseller immediately

0:48:060:48:07

and it's been in print ever since.

0:48:070:48:09

And it's a brilliant polemic,

0:48:090:48:10

it's not fair.

0:48:100:48:11

He paints this picture of these greedy, selfish,

0:48:110:48:14

hard-hearted cynical men dividing up Europe, punishing Germany,

0:48:140:48:18

and they are just making a complete mess of it.

0:48:180:48:20

I think that also he represents a whole generation of younger people

0:48:200:48:23

who had supported the war believing

0:48:230:48:25

that the world was going to be a better place

0:48:250:48:27

and when they saw it wasn't going to be, they reacted

0:48:270:48:30

and blamed the people who were trying to make peace for everything.

0:48:300:48:33

I would have thought one of the huge unfairnesses of Keynes' book

0:48:330:48:36

is he never set it in the context of saying,

0:48:360:48:38

"All right, even if the Allies have made a fumbled, bungled peace,

0:48:380:48:43

"if the Germans had won and the if the Germans had been making the peace,

0:48:430:48:46

"it would have been a vastly crueller and worse one for Europe."

0:48:460:48:49

I think there's plenty of evidence that what the German High Command...

0:48:490:48:52

and they were basically in control of Germany by this point. By 1918,

0:48:520:48:55

you have a military dictatorship in Germany

0:48:550:48:57

and what they were planning were pretty extensive annexations

0:48:570:49:00

of other people's lands in the west

0:49:000:49:02

and in the east, they were planning to extend their influence.

0:49:020:49:05

In the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk,

0:49:050:49:07

they had forced the Bolsheviks, who were desperate,

0:49:070:49:09

to give over whatever gold they had left,

0:49:090:49:11

they'd set up an independent Ukraine.

0:49:110:49:12

I mean, the evidence is, unless they had a complete change of heart,

0:49:120:49:15

it would have been a very harsh peace.

0:49:150:49:17

Today, an awful lot of people have come to feel a real guilt

0:49:170:49:22

about the Treaty of Versailles.

0:49:220:49:24

"Oh, it was an unfair treaty to Germany,

0:49:240:49:26

"that it contributed to the rise of Hitler, it got it wrong."

0:49:260:49:29

Was it the harsh vindictive treaty they claim?

0:49:290:49:31

The trouble with the treaty, I think, is that it appeared to be harsher

0:49:310:49:35

than it actually was and, of course, it was all about implementation

0:49:350:49:38

and in the end, most of those clauses

0:49:380:49:39

which limited German power and forced Germany to pay reparations

0:49:390:49:42

were not really implemented fully.

0:49:420:49:44

And so I think there's a perception of the treaty as very harsh.

0:49:440:49:47

My question always is - what would you have done otherwise?

0:49:470:49:50

How would you have treated Germany if you felt it had caused the war

0:49:500:49:53

and caused this catastrophe for Europe, what would you have done?

0:49:530:49:56

Wouldn't you have tried to limit its power?

0:49:560:49:58

Because Versailles failed to deliver a lasting peace,

0:49:590:50:03

it has become unjustly blamed for the fact

0:50:030:50:06

that a Second World War had to be fought.

0:50:060:50:09

In truth, so many violent forces and crises shook Europe

0:50:100:50:15

between 1919 and 1939 that it seems absurd to blame the peacemakers

0:50:150:50:20

for having failed in their grand purposes.

0:50:200:50:23

In the decade following Versailles,

0:50:270:50:29

all Europe groaned under the burden

0:50:290:50:32

of paying the bills for the past conflict.

0:50:320:50:34

Britain was almost bankrupt, and the moral and political regeneration

0:50:360:50:39

which Prime Minister Lloyd George had repeatedly promised

0:50:390:50:43

failed to happen.

0:50:430:50:45

Many men came back from the Army to find their old jobs

0:50:470:50:50

taken by civilians, often women.

0:50:500:50:52

Whereas, in 1945, veterans returned to a country

0:50:540:50:58

run by a Labour government committed to creating a welfare state,

0:50:580:51:02

after 1918, the old gang remained in charge

0:51:020:51:06

of an unreformed British society.

0:51:060:51:09

Those who had fought felt that they had been sold a false bill of goods.

0:51:120:51:16

My own grandfather,

0:51:210:51:23

a writer who won a Military Cross as a gunner officer in France,

0:51:230:51:28

became one of those who, within a few years of the Armistice,

0:51:280:51:31

asked himself what it had all been for.

0:51:310:51:34

Here's an essay my grandfather wrote for a literary magazine in 1923,

0:51:360:51:41

after meeting a group of fellow veterans

0:51:410:51:43

who had served with him in France.

0:51:430:51:45

They now felt, he said,

0:51:450:51:47

"That they had gone not as 'heroes'

0:51:470:51:50

"but on a fool's errand to fight in a war that was not worth fighting.

0:51:500:51:54

"They had endured the unsightly, dirty life of the battlefields

0:51:540:51:58

"with a cheery and modest sense of merit,

0:51:580:52:01

"with a belief that they were making some contribution to a good cause.

0:52:010:52:06

"But now, it transpired, this had been a stupid article of faith,

0:52:060:52:11

"which was exploded."

0:52:110:52:13

My grandfather and his kind felt themselves

0:52:170:52:21

"strangers in a strange land",

0:52:210:52:23

divided by the horrendous trench experience

0:52:230:52:26

from those at home who knew almost nothing about it.

0:52:260:52:29

The poets of the Western Front,

0:52:330:52:35

such men as Wilfred Owen, Robert Graves, Siegfried Sassoon,

0:52:350:52:39

vividly described its horrors and the sense of military futility

0:52:390:52:45

in a fashion that later generations have found irresistible.

0:52:450:52:49

Here was the world's worst wound

0:52:500:52:54

And here with pride

0:52:540:52:56

'Their name liveth for evermore'

0:52:560:52:58

The Gateway claims

0:52:580:53:00

Was ever immolation so belied

0:53:000:53:03

As these intolerably nameless names?

0:53:030:53:08

Well might the Dead who struggled in the slime

0:53:080:53:11

Rise and deride this sepulchre of crime.

0:53:110:53:15

But Sassoon and his kind never addressed the huge question

0:53:220:53:25

of how on earth Britain could have escaped from the war

0:53:250:53:29

except by conceding defeat.

0:53:290:53:31

It's a weird British thing

0:53:330:53:35

that while we are hugely proud that our forefathers fought Hitler,

0:53:350:53:39

we seem almost ashamed that they fought the Kaiser.

0:53:390:53:42

How has the overwhelming perception developed in Britain

0:53:460:53:50

over the last hundred years that there was nothing worth

0:53:500:53:53

fighting about in the First World War?

0:53:530:53:56

Well, the interesting point is not so much that, after the war,

0:53:560:54:03

opinion changed or opinion veered

0:54:030:54:06

to the point when you said, "That was a bad war,

0:54:060:54:10

"it was badly conducted, it was a waste of time,

0:54:100:54:12

"a waste of blood and it should never have happened."

0:54:120:54:15

Nobody thought that in 1918,

0:54:150:54:19

I think nobody thought that for another ten years,

0:54:190:54:22

until about 1928...

0:54:220:54:24

-The poets did.

-The poets did, but the interesting thing

0:54:240:54:27

is whether people would have been interested and affected

0:54:270:54:30

by what the poets wrote.

0:54:300:54:32

They became expressive of a public opinion in 1928,

0:54:320:54:38

they weren't expressive in 1918.

0:54:380:54:40

By the end of the 1920s,

0:54:400:54:43

there's this worldwide slump.

0:54:430:54:46

Total catastrophic unemployment everywhere,

0:54:460:54:49

especially in Germany.

0:54:490:54:51

The situation seemed to be far worse in 1928 than it had been in 1914

0:54:510:54:57

and by 1933 or so, it has become generally accepted

0:54:570:55:02

that the war is an unnecessary war that had been bungled, etc, etc.

0:55:020:55:06

So I think that what was very, very important was not so much the fact

0:55:060:55:11

that the war had been terribly expensive and bloody

0:55:110:55:15

and the losses were awful,

0:55:150:55:16

it was that nothing seemed to have come out of it of any good.

0:55:160:55:20

Europe's descent into the turmoil and privations of the 1930s

0:55:230:55:27

caused many people to view the Great War as bungled, the peace shambolic.

0:55:270:55:33

Some perversely blamed the victors for the rise of Hitler and Nazism.

0:55:330:55:38

While many people today

0:55:400:55:42

still think of the First World War as a "bad" war,

0:55:420:55:45

the Second has come to be seen, by contrast,

0:55:450:55:49

as a virtuous crusade against the Nazi architects of genocide.

0:55:490:55:52

Nobody went to war in 1939 to stop the Germans massacring the Jews.

0:55:550:55:59

I mean, sad though it may be to say that,

0:55:590:56:01

partly because, of course, the serious massacres hadn't yet begun,

0:56:010:56:04

but, principally, because Germany might be doing awful things,

0:56:040:56:08

Nazi Germany, domestically, but in those days, nobody saw that

0:56:080:56:12

as an obligation to go to war in the way in which we would today.

0:56:120:56:16

So, in some respects, both wars break out for similar reasons -

0:56:160:56:21

great power rivalries and the concerns of the balance

0:56:210:56:24

of power within Europe, and what is happening within Eastern Europe.

0:56:240:56:27

They are remarkably similar in their causation and it is perverse

0:56:270:56:31

that we have clothed the Second World War as the good war

0:56:310:56:34

and the First World War as the bad war.

0:56:340:56:36

And, of course, we have not remained sufficiently,

0:56:360:56:40

I'm talking we, as British now,

0:56:400:56:41

have not remained sufficiently independent-minded

0:56:410:56:44

or sufficiently historically aware

0:56:440:56:46

to put these things in our own and a proper context.

0:56:460:56:49

No sane person believes that Britain wanted a war in 1914.

0:56:580:57:03

All the great powers bear some responsibility for the carnage,

0:57:030:57:07

but the Germans seem to deserve most, because they refused

0:57:070:57:11

to use their almost indisputable ability to prevent it.

0:57:110:57:14

They failed to see that nothing they hoped to get out of the war

0:57:160:57:19

could justify its horrendous prospective risk and actual cost.

0:57:190:57:23

Britain emerged from the First World War with little to show

0:57:260:57:30

save a few worthless colonies and a host of public memorials.

0:57:300:57:35

But the right questions to ask about the conflict

0:57:350:57:38

and the nation's sacrifice today are whether we could justly

0:57:380:57:42

or sensibly have stayed out of it.

0:57:420:57:45

And what would have befallen Europe if the Kaiser's Germany had won?

0:57:450:57:51

I'm imagining Whitehall as it was on 4th August -

0:57:550:57:59

jammed with expectant people about to be swept away

0:57:590:58:02

by the most dreadful cataclysm in European history.

0:58:020:58:05

Nobody in their right mind would suggest making the centenary of 1914

0:58:060:58:11

an occasion for celebration.

0:58:110:58:14

But we should have the courage to tell our children and grandchildren

0:58:140:58:17

that the wartime generation did not fight and die for nothing,

0:58:170:58:22

that if their enemies had prevailed,

0:58:220:58:25

Europe would have paid an even more terrible forfeit.

0:58:250:58:28

To explore further the story of how the world went to war in 1914,

0:58:400:58:46

go to bbc.co.uk/ww1.

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