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On 5th October 1915, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
my great-uncle, Lieutenant Aubrey Hastings, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
of the 7th East Surrey Regiment, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
was killed in France, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
blown to pieces in his trench, during the Battle of Loos. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
I grew up with his story, reading the unhappy letters that he wrote | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
amid the poppies of the battlefield, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
along with those of a grandfather | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
and another great-uncle who survived. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
But this is the first time I've visited the cemetery | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
at Fouquieres-les-Bethune where Aubrey is buried, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
one of some 900,000 British Empire dead of the First World War. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:46 | |
Almost everyone in this country shares such links | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
with that catastrophe for our forefathers and for Europe. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
It's a funny business, | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
looking down at the last resting place | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
of one of my own family, whom I never met, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
who died in a struggle I've spent decades reading about. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Its horror is not in doubt. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
But where I part company from what we might call | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
"the Blackadder take on history" | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
is to believe that it was also futile - | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
that it didn't matter which side won. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
In the 21st century, the British people are deeply wedded to the idea | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
that the Second World War was our "good" war, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
the First our "bad" one. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
But what if we'd stayed out? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
What if Germany had won? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
In my opinion, the deaths of Aubrey Hastings | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
and hundred of thousands of his comrades were assuredly a great tragedy, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
but they were not for nothing. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Many British people honour the men who fought and died | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
with a mixture of sorrow and a sense of waste... | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
..a belief that no cause could have justified so horrendous a sacrifice. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:03 | |
BUGLE PLAYS "Last Post" | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
But a hundred years after the outbreak, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
it seems time to revisit the reasons we went to war in 1914. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
I want to argue that, far from Britain having plunged | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
into a bloodbath we could have stayed out of, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
our part in the First World War was tragically necessary. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Any exploration of why Britain had to go to war in 1914 | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
must start on the continent of Europe. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
The spark was ignited in the Balkans on 28th June, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
when Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
shot dead Archduke Franz Ferdinand, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
heir to the Austrian throne. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
The Empire's rulers immediately determined to exploit the outrage | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
to justify invading neighbouring Serbia, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
where the murder weapons had come from. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
But the Russians were Serbia's close allies, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
and they made it plain they would fight to protect their fellow Slavs. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
Through July 1914, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
the great continental powers waded ever deeper into crisis. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
But from the outset, the key player was Germany. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
On 6th July, its rulers pledged the Austrians | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
their unconditional support to smash Serbia, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
promising to deal with Russia and its own ally France, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
if they intervened. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Day by day, it became plainer | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
that none of the big players would back down, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
and thus began the countdown to the First World War. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Some historians have argued that once it became clear | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
that Austria and Germany were going to war with France and Russia, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
we, the British, should simply have let them get on with it, stayed out, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
that all that would have come out of a German victory | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
was a fast-forwarded version of today's European Union. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
I don't buy that. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
The people who were running Germany cared nothing for democracy | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
or other people's freedoms. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Once the shooting started, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
it became plain that their war aims were little different | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
from those of Hitler 35 years later, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
excepting only the Jewish genocide. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
The causes of the war are hugely complicated, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
with the death of the Archduke only setting in motion existing forces. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
No one nation deserves all the blame. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
But there's an overriding case | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
that German recklessness contributed more than anything else | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
to make a conflict intended to settle a local score | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
escalate into a European war. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
And once the fighting and dying started, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
it became cruelly apparent | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
that a Germany victory would be a disaster for Europe. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
In 1914, Germany was by far the most powerful state on the continent, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
the most advanced society in Europe. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Industrially, it was racing ahead of its rivals in every field, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
from pharmaceuticals to automobile design. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Socially, it pioneered a welfare state | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
by creating unemployment insurance and old age pensions. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
German culture was revered across the world. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
But it became Europe's historic tragedy | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
that the German system of government | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
lagged generations behind everything else in the country. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
The Empire's elected parliament | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
had the largest socialist party | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
in Europe. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
But while the Reichstag | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
dominated domestic affairs, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
it was the Kaiser, the so-called All Highest, Wilhelm II, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
who still made every key appointment | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and controlled decisions about war and peace. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
Wilhelm was a weak man who sought to masquerade as a strong one, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
chronically unstable and prone to violent mood swings. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
He wasn't at heart a warmonger as, of course, Hitler was, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
but he loved to play at soldiers. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
He offered threats and blandishments to other powers, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
which he ALWAYS got in the wrong order. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
'Professor John Rohl has spent a lifetime | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
'studying and writing about the Kaiser.' | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
How personally influential was Kaiser Wilhelm | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
in the decision for war? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Kaiser Wilhelm took over the reins from his father in 1888 | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
and inherited Bismarck's immense power himself | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
when he threw Bismarck out, but not content with that, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
he then went back to an almost 18th-century notion of monarchy, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
in other words, he insisted on ruling personally. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
With the result that he appointed all ministers, all the chancellors, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
all the generals, all the admirals himself, personally, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
according to his likes and dislikes. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
He was an extremely assertive bully. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
It's an extraordinary situation that you had a socialist majority, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
violently anti militarist majority, in the Reichstag and yet, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
exercising no influence at all, really, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
over this regime and foreign policy. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Yeah, one of the reasons, I believe, behind the German generals' decision | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
to go to war around about 1914 was the rising tide of democracy at home. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
The thinking was, "Well, if we leave it too long, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
"we will not be able to get our way and do what we really need to do | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
"to make Germany great, so we'd better go before that time comes." | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
The most powerful institution in Wilhelm's Empire, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
and indeed in all continental Europe, was the German Army. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
The Kaiser was also eager to extend his power across the seas, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
and personally promoted the creation of a big-gun navy. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
This thoroughly alarmed the British, who feared Germany's fleet | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
as a threat to their global trade routes and empire. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
As Queen Victoria's grandson, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Wilhelm retained some respect for her people, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
but he was determined that neither he | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
nor his empire should defer to them. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
It's almost as if he feels obliged | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
to be more military and more masculine than any other monarch, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
perhaps because there's always the whiff of Englishness about him, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
his mother being English, he was always very keen to say, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
"No, no, I'm not English, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
"I'm Prussian, I'm extremely Prussian." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
So there's this autocratic side to him, there's extreme militarism. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
But some of it does come from England. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
For example, the love of the navy, the idea that he has a mission | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
to become THE superpower in Europe, in place of Britain. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
He feels he has a right as leader of this new, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
energized Germany after unification. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Fear of Germany's might, and of its aspirations to dominate Europe, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
prompted Russia and France to forge a close military alliance. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Although Britain's government made no firm written commitment, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
it posted an option on supporting them in the event of war. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Many British people recoiled from the idea of joining | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
an alliance with Tsar Nicholas II, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
whose people had been Britain's enemies through the 19th century. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
But the fears of Europe's rulers | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
that a general war would result from their rivalries | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
caused every nation | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
to huddle close to its friends. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
The Germans to the Austrians, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
the Russians to the French, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
with the British as cautious maybes. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Germany's warlords were haunted by fears of Russia's growing might. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
Some of them were convinced | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
that challenging the Tsar's armies sooner rather than later | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
offered Germany the best chance of victory. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
This is one of many German memorials | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
to Prussia's 19th-century military triumphs. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Instead of perceiving big wars, as we do today, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
as universal tragedies, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
the Kaiser's generals, and sometimes Wilhelm himself, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
believed that trial by battle was an acceptable instrument of policy. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
All Germany's leaders were insecure, even paranoid, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
about threats at home from the socialists, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
abroad from Russia and France, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
probably backed in a showdown by Britain. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
In those days, not many people thought seriously about economics. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
The Kaiser and his generals counted soldiers, they failed to realise | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
that their country was achieving dominance of Europe | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
without firing a shot through its industrial power. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
By 1914, so many Germans had come to believe | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
that a European clash in arms was inevitable | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
that their fatalism contributed mightily to bringing this about. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
The Kaiser, who was almost certainly clinically unstable, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
was one of three men in Germany | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
who took the key decisions which resulted in war. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
To this day, historians argue fiercely | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
about which pulled the levers to precipitate disaster. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
The others were the Chancellor, Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
appointed by Wilhelm, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:30 | |
and General Helmuth von Moltke, head of the Army. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
The Kaiser and the Chancellor were the ones who, on 6th July, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
promised Austria Germany's support against Serbia. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Bethmann Hollweg, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
knowing that Russia was committed to protect the Serbs, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
pressed the Austrians to hurry their invasion to pre-empt the Tsar. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
This has become known as Berlin's "blank cheque", | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
keystone of the argument that Germany was most blameworthy | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
for the horrors that followed. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
'Professor Sir Hew Strachan has been studying | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
'and chronicling the war for over 30 years. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
'He agrees that Berlin took a huge gamble.' | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
The Germans actively encouraged the Austrians | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
not merely to invade Serbia, but to get on and do it | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
even more quickly than they were ready to do it. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Yes, partly because I think if they do it quickly, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
you'll get away with it - you'll be able to crush Serbia, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
there'll be a Balkan war that's over so quick that nobody will have time to intervene, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
so the presumption here is speed | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
and what Berlin is doing is constantly taking best-case advice. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
You know, will Russia stay out of this war | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
because they're worried there will be a revolution in Russia? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
The best answer is that, yes, they will, because there has been | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
a revolution in Russia in 1905 and there might be again. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
So they work with that assumption. Whereas, in fact, of course, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
the Tsar's going to be put under tremendous pressure | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
to back the south Slavs in Serbia. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
But throughout July, the one nation surely that had the power | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
to stop this process, if the Germans had said to the Austrians, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
"Stop, do not invade Serbia," | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
there would have not been a general European war, would there? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
That's right, I think they had the power to say no. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
I mean, after all, the blank cheque is central | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
and the blank cheque is issued by Germany, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
and Germany then seems to show remarkable insouciance | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
as to how that cheque will be used, you know. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Austria-Hungary still has to cash it, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
it's Austria-Hungary that has to initiate war. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
But absolutely, the balance then shifts to Berlin | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
and if any power has the capacity to stop it, it's Berlin, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
particularly at the very end of the crisis. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Army chief of staff, Helmuth von Moltke, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
who answered only to the Kaiser, also played a pivotal role. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
On 28th July, Wilhelm and Bethmann Hollweg | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
experienced a brief panic attack. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
The looming war now looked far bigger and graver | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
than they'd bargained for. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
But Moltke, on his own initiative, telegraphed the Austrians | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
and urged them to hasten their attack. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
The chief of staff had long argued | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
that if Germany must face a European showdown, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
it was better to have it before the Russian's big armaments expansion programme was complete. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:21 | |
At an imperial council meeting in December 1912, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
he's reliably reported as saying, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
"War, and the sooner the better." | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
'Annika Mombauer is a German scholar | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
'who has written a biography of the chief of staff | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
'which emphasises his role in the July crisis.' | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Where did Moltke fit into the decision for war? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, Moltke very much advocates war. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
He thinks that war is inevitable in the long run. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
He thinks that eventually Russia will become too strong, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
too militarily powerful for Germany to defeat her. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
And therefore, he creates an atmosphere in which war seems | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
a good solution out of a perceived problem. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
One thing that seems extraordinary to us about how dysfunctional | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
the German government was in July 1914 is that here you've got Moltke, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
who's supposed to be just the head of the army. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And at a critical moment, July 28th, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
he sends a telegram to Vienna, to the Austrians, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
telling them to get on with invading Serbia, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
and it does seem an extraordinary reflection of both | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
how reckless Moltke could be and of how powerful he was. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Well, you're right, he does send that telegram, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
and in Vienna, they end up saying, "Well, who actually...? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-"Who rules in Berlin?! -Who rules in Berlin? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
"Moltke or Bethmann?" Or was it, in fact, the Kaiser? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
So, yes, you're completely right. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
He exceeds his authority, if you like, by sending this telegram. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Germany's leadership in July 1914 was extraordinarily reckless | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
in accepting the risk that by promoting a small Balkan war, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
they would trigger a huge European one. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
When it became plain that the Russians would fight | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
rather than see Serbia go under, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
the Germans refused to take the one step | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
that could have prevented a general European catastrophe - | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
telling the Austrians to pull back. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Instead, they themselves prepared to mobilise against Russia. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
And that's why, I believe, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
they deserve most blame for all that followed. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
On 28th July, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
Austria declared war on Serbia | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
and two days later, the Tsar ordered his army to mobilise. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Germany then issued two ultimatums - one to Russia | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
and another to France, its ally. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Neither was expected to accept, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
and few of the Kaiser's generals wished them to. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Berlin then set in motion its hugely ambitious war plan, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
designed to crush France before turning on Russia. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Created almost a decade earlier | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
by Moltke's predecessor, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Count Alfred von Schlieffen, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
the plan required an invasion of France by way of its back door, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
through neutral Belgium. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
It was the German commitment | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
to overrun Belgium | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
which suddenly propelled Britain, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
hitherto a mere spectator of the continental drama, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
to the forefront of the stage. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Under a treaty signed in 1839, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
this country was among the guarantors of Belgian neutrality. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
I'm one of those who still wonder | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
whether Britain really would have come in | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
if it hadn't been for the invasion of Belgium. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-Moltke got this dead wrong, didn't he? -He did, he did. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
He was in an impossible situation, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
militarily speaking, or strategically speaking, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
because Germany is in a sense encircled | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
by France in the west and Russia in the east | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
and the only way he thinks he can win this war is by implementing | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
the so-called Schlieffen Plan, and that plan can only work | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
if France is defeated quickly, and that means invading Belgium. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
But interestingly, in France, the chief of staff similarly | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
thinks our best chance would be to advance through Belgium. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
But the politicians, the diplomats tell him, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
"We can't do that because of Britain." | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
The British told France, "On no account go into Belgium." | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Exactly, exactly. And so, had Germany also respected Belgian neutrality, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
there would have been all sorts of possibilities right at the end | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
of July and early in August perhaps to come to a different outcome. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Thus, in the first days of August 1914, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Germany prepared to invade and crush France in a campaign of 40 days, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
before turning on Russia. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Europe had a war. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
But must the British be in it? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Would they fight? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
Basking in the balmy summer of 1914, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
and preoccupied | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
by industrial turmoil | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
and the threat of Irish civil war, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
the British people had scant | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
appetite for a continental conflict. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
But Liberal Prime Minister Herbert Asquith, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and several key cabinet colleagues, were appalled by the prospect | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
of Germany achieving dominance of Europe. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
They doubted that Britain could merely remain a bystander | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
while this happened. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
One such was the Foreign Secretary, Sir Edward Grey, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
who played a critical role. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Sir Edward Grey is traditionally seen | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
as a reticent English gentleman, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
whose grand passions were fly-fishing and bird-watching, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
both of which he wrote good books about. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
But more recently, he's become a focus of fierce controversy. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
Some historians claim that Grey made rash secret commitments to the French | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
which dragged us unnecessarily into the war. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
For centuries, it had been a British article of faith | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
that a balance of power, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
which denied absolute dominance to any one nation, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
must be maintained on the continent. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Between 1908 and 1914, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
when Grey was not casting a fly on bright waters, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
he held secret talks with the French about British support | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
in the event of a German attack. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
The Foreign Secretary was less clever and less of a statesman | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
than his admirers thought. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
But the claim that he should be damned for dragging Britain | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
into an unnecessary war doesn't stand up. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I suggest that Grey was a realist about the difficulty, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
indeed impossibility, of Britain simply standing by doing nothing | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
while Germany conquered Europe. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
If the French and Russians had been beaten, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
as they almost certainly would have been if Britain hadn't come in, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
who can imagine a victorious Germany allowing Britain to continue | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
ruling the waves and the world's financial system | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
any more than Hitler would have done | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
if Churchill had tried to strike a deal with him in 1940? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Nothing Grey said beforehand could have deterred the Germans, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
because they had weighed Britain's military power and discounted it. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
The little British Army seemed incapable of influencing | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
a huge clash of continental hosts. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
The Royal Navy was thought irrelevant because, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
in the Kaiser's scornful words, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
"Dreadnoughts have no wheels." | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
The Foreign Secretary's secret and unwritten assurances to France | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
seem to me to have reflected not warmongering, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
but prudent and essential precaution. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
In July 1914, by proposing an immediate European conference, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Grey did all that he could to avert war. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
'Sir Michael Howard is Britain's most distinguished living historian. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
'He and I have spent many hours discussing the vast puzzle of 1914 | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
'and, crucially, whether Britain could have done more to avert disaster.' | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
Grey's proposal, which they rejected out of hand, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
to address the confrontation between Austria-Hungary | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and Serbia by having a peace conference - | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
it wasn't a contemptible proposal, was it? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
No, it was an absolutely typical Grey thing to do. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
A typical sort of Liberal solution and... | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
-But the Germans rejected it flatly. -The Germans rejected it flatly | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
because this would have meant letting down the Austrians | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
and they were not going to let down the Austrians. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
There was this sense throughout all classes in Austria, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
it is time to finish with the Serbs. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
If we don't finish with the Serbs, they will nibble us to death. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
This is the moment to strike. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
The Germans knowing this was the case were not going to bring in | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
the Austrians to debate about what their future was going to be. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
So to that extent also, you could say that the Germans were | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
responsible for not letting there be a peaceful settlement. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:38 | |
On 2nd August, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
the Germans issued an ultimatum to King Albert of Belgium | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
demanding passage for their armies. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
He flatly refused and appealed to Britain as a guarantor | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
of his country's neutrality. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Thus, it fell to Sir Edward Grey | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
to convince a still reluctant British parliament | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
of the necessity for Britain to join the war on the continent. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
On the afternoon of 3rd August, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
Grey delivered the most important speech of his life | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
to the House of Commons. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
By now, most of the Cabinet believed that Britain must fight | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
in the name of Belgium's rights. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
"Could this country," Grey demanded, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
"stand by and watch the direst crime that ever stained human history, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
"and thus become participators in the sin?" | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
He added, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
"We should, I believe, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
"sacrifice our respect and good name before the world | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
"and should not escape the most serious and grave consequences." | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
This was one of those extraordinary parliamentary occasions that changed history. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
It persuaded much of the Liberal Party, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
hitherto bitterly hostile to intervention, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
now to support it - as the Conservative opposition already did. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
Thus, on 4th August 1914, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
after Berlin rejected an ultimatum | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
demanding its withdrawal from Belgium, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Britain declared war on Germany. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Was Belgium the real reason that Britain went to war in 1914 | 0:26:15 | 0:26:22 | |
or, as some historians nowadays try to argue, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
"Oh, it was just a pretext," | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
-that the British government really wanted to fight anyway? -Yeah. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Well, I would tend to say, "It's both and." | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
There are two arguments here. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
One is the security of Belgium | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and the absence of a dominant power on the mainland of Europe | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
is seen as central to Britain's strategic position. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
There can't be an equivalent of Napoleon, facing Britain across | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
the Channel and dominating Britain's routes to the rest of the world. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
The second issue is - does it matter that Germany | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
disregards its international obligations, enters Belgium, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
which is a neutral state, and fails to reflect | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
both international law and the rights of small nations? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
And the answer is it does matter and it matters because, for Britain, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
international law and what we might now see as morality, also matters. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
But it's more fundamental than that, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
because Britain is an economic power, a trading power, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
a power that depends on its shipping, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
actually, international law is more than just a sense | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
of legal, of moral, obligation. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
It's also a matter of economic necessity. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
You need to respect international law | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
to make sure that Britain can continue to exercise | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
the degree of leverage it does as a neutral itself. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
Well, some people say now, "Oh, it was incredibly silly for Britain | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
"to get involved in this horrific experience of the First World War | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
"just because the German Army marched into Belgium." | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
But actually, it seems to me, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
it was a pretty good reason for going to war. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
It was an excellent reason for going to war. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
And it did something which, at the beginning of the July crisis, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
-seemed unimaginable to many, which is... -It united the British people. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
It united the British people. United the Cabinet and united the people. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
As Britain mobilised its little army in that first week of August, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
Germany's vast host was already surging into Belgium. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Within days, the first reports appeared in the world's newspapers | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
describing the extraordinarily brutal conduct of German troops | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
towards the Belgian people. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
They were not merely carelessly destroying homes and villages - | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
all invading armies do that. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
They were seizing and killing civilian hostages | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
in scores and hundreds. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Even before 1914, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
the Kaiser's Army had earned a reputation for exceptional brutality. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
Between 1904 and 1907, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
when the Herero and Nama tribes rebelled against German colonial | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
rule in South West Africa, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
the Kaiser's soldiers killed | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
or deliberately starved to death | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
almost 100,000 native people. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Wilhelm applauded and decorated the officer responsible. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Even by the imperial standards of the day, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
this action was worse than any British excess. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
But the Herero genocide had been far away in Africa. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
In August 1914, world opinion was stunned by German savagery | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
towards fellow Europeans. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
In Flanders, the destruction of the medieval university town of Louvain, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
today rebuilt from ashes, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
became a symbol of the excesses of the Kaiser's soldiers, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
endorsed by Berlin. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Professor John Horne has exhaustively researched | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
and catalogued the German Army's actions | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
in Berlin and France during 1914. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
John, we are here, in the university library at Louvain, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
what happened here? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
Well, on 25th August, there was the sound of fighting - | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
German soldiers shooting at what they claimed was a civilian insurrection. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
Round about 11 o'clock in the evening, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
this beautiful university library was broken into by the German soldiers | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
and deliberately set fire. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
One young Jesuit, Father Dupierreux, had written in his notebook | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
that he thought the Germans, in burning down the library, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
had done something as barbaric | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
as the destruction of the library of Alexandria in antiquity. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
This was seized by German soldiers and he was summarily executed. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
And by the 29th or the 30th, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
you have to imagine Louvain as an almost empty town. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
The population that hadn't been deported gradually straggled back in | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
to find between 1,500 and 2,000 buildings destroyed, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
and well over 240 of their own townspeople had been killed. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
All armies in all wars can behave very badly. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
What seems different about what happened in Belgium in 1914 | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
was that it wasn't just the question of the odd soldiers | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
brutally murdering a few civilians, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
they were systematically shooting them in scores | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
-and sometimes in hundreds as hostages. -You are quite right. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
What we've just described in Louvain was a terrible incident | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
and it immediately grabbed the international headlines. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
But it was typical of something that happened across the whole | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
invasion front, in Belgium and also in eastern France. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
And it wasn't the worst case in terms of the death rate. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Dinant was destroyed as a town | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
and 674 of its inhabitants executed two days before... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
-In cold blood? -In cold blood. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
In the first weeks of the war, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
nearly 6,500 civilians were executed by German troops | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
in Belgium and France. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
Berlin claimed that they were merely exacting legitimate reprisals | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
for resistance by civilians, so-called franc-tireurs, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
'but John Horne rejects this.' | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
You found no evidence at all of franc-tireurs activity, did you, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
of guerrilla activity against the Germans? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
None, it was... er, apart from the odd | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
very isolated incident, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
but nothing which justified the German accusations, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
which was that there had been what they called a "Volkskrieg", | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
a people's war, a mass uprising. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
And the Kaiser, already by 9th August, only a week into the war, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
is accusing the King of the Belgians of fermenting such an uprising. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
It didn't happen. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:48 | |
But it was the institutional response of the German generals | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
and right up to the Kaiser that seems striking. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
And it does seem to say something about the character of the regime. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
That's right. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
Because, very quickly, what starts out as panics | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
and localised responses by German soldiers | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
is immediately endorsed by the whole German command structure. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
And then what swings into play is a series of very brutal reprisals, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
which are justified in terms of German military doctrine | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
as to what you do when you're faced with civilian uprising. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
For years, apologists for Germany claimed that the Belgian atrocities | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
were figments of Allied propaganda. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Some of the stories that made headlines in 1914, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
for instance, claims that thousands of babies | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
were maimed by German soldiers, were indeed fabrications. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
But a big truth persists - | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
the German Army behaved with systemic barbarity | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
during its advance across Belgium and France. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Its actions persuaded many hitherto doubting British people | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
that they had chosen the right side | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
in the ghastly conflict that was unfolding. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Some historians today claim that the British government's decision | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
to go to war in defence of Belgium's neutrality was simply a fig leaf, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
a pretence, when really, it was all simply | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
about supporting the French against the Germans. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
I'd put it a bit differently. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Yes, it's true that some key ministers wanted to fight anyway, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
but Belgium provided a tipping point - | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
all sorts of British people who cared nothing for Serbia or Russia | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
could easily get their minds around the notion | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
that it was outrageous that the most powerful army in Europe | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
proposed to crush beneath its boots a small state | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
simply to serve the convenience of the Schlieffen Plan. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
And wasn't that indeed a decent and honourable reason | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
for Britain to go to war? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:46 | |
'Had Germany been victorious on the continent, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
'Britain would have found itself in a desperate and lonely predicament.' | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
If the Germans had won, and now I hypothesise, there would have | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
been an Anglo-German war within a matter of years. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
The fear in Britain was that a power which unified the continent | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
would then be in a position | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
to challenge Britain's command of the sea. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
If she commanded, challenged, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
and successfully overturned Britain's command of the sea, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
not only would we no longer have an empire, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
we would be at the mercy of whoever commanded the whole of Europe. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
That was what the British feared. That was what... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
-And they were right to fear it? -And they were right to fear it, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
because there was a substantial element in Germany, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
led by the Kaiser, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
whose one objective was to challenge Britain as a world power, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
to build a great navy which could then defeat the British | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
and Germany would then become a world power at the expense of the British. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
So if the Germans had won the war, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
I see no way in which they would not have used their dominance of Europe | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
to bring the British down. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
So we would not have avoided a war, we would only have postponed one. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
By early September, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
the German Army had swept through Belgium and into France. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
With Berlin believing that its victory was imminent, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
Chancellor Bethmann Hollweg drew up a list | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
of his country's demands at the peace talks. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
They included seizing large swathes of land from both France and Russia, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:26 | |
annexing Luxembourg, making Belgium and Holland vassal states. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:32 | |
The September Plan, as it became known, was designed to secure | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
Germany's absolute political and economic control of Europe. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
But in the second week of September, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
the French Army achieved a historic victory in the Battle of the Marne, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
driving back the Germans from the gates of Paris. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
What followed, in the autumn of 1914, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
finally wrecked Germany's dream of swift victory. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
It also witnessed the first big and seriously bloody battle | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
of the war for the British. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
In October, the British Expeditionary Force | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
marched towards the old Belgian cloth town of Ypres - | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
Wipers, as millions of British soldiers came to know it. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
They arrived there just in time to | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
clash head-on with a massive enemy | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
offensive - the last great German effort | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
to win the war by Christmas. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
What took place in the five weeks of battle around Ypres | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
set the pattern for the vision of the First World War | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
which has been etched into our national culture ever since. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Former soldier Clive Harris today guides visitors | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
to the battlefields of the First World War, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
and especially those around Ypres. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
'He's brought me to Polygon Wood, one of the most famous, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
'or notorious, landmarks of the desperate struggle in 1914.' | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
It's right at the edge of the Menin Road, which runs back towards Ypres, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
which is about five, six kilometres behind us now. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
It sits right at the centre of the battlefield as well, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
so from the moment the Germans attack us on 18th October, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
right through to the last knockings of first Ypres on 11th November, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
this wood here and the two woods just to the rear of us, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
were key as part of the battles. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
This is where the Germans made their last huge push of 1914 | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
to try to win the war before Christmas? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
They did, yeah. They now realise | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
that they needed to knock us out of the war | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
and by doing so, they needed to capture the Channel ports. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
And therefore, they moved away from the von Schlieffen Plan | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
to a degree and the capture of Ypres, this is the last thing... | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
other side of Ypres, there is no defences. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
It was our last chance - | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
there is nothing behind us, but the Channel ports. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-And there were battles all over the shop, small battles all over the wood. -There were, yeah. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
We tend to think that the British line would be a continual line | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
when, in fact, it was more a series of outposts and, quite often, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
units found themselves isolated and having to make small unit charges | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
into Germans as opposed to a larger cohesive defence. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Here, in western Belgium, the war of manoeuvre | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
ranging across thousands of square miles that had been waged | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
through the late summer of 1914, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
gave way to a stalemate across the Western Front. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
The technology of defence and destruction, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
artillery and machine guns had achieved a dominance | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
which confounded the generals of both sides. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
At Ypres, cavalrymen saw their horses almost for the last time, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
before being obliged to join a death grapple on foot. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Well, we are here, this is the site | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
of the Horse Guards memorial | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
and it marks an area where the Horse Guards | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
fight as infantry pretty much on this spot, we are just on the... | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
So they came charging up, dismounted... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Yeah, initially by horseback. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
This actual spot is where one of the machine gun positions... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
cos it gives us a great arc of fire over the advancing enemy. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
But what seems important here, Clive, it wasn't just | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
that the British threw back the German Army, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
it was also that the whole character of the war changed | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
for all the armies, that here was where they first came to terms | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
with what everybody now understands as the full horror of the Great War, wasn't it? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Yeah, trench warfare, and this is the end of that war of movement | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
that starts in the August, all the way down to the Marne, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
all the way back again, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
and it's here that we start to dig, dig, dig. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
So, yeah, we are on the spot where it changes. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-And when it started to rain... -Yeah. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
..they weren't in the earth, they were in the mud. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Yeah, and you have to learn to cope with things such as trench foot | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
and how to get around that, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
and reinforce your trenches to withstand bombardments. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
We're no longer going to see the artillery now in front | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
of the infantry firing as field guns. They're going to be behind the lines, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
or, certainly, in sunken lanes and that sort of thing. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
And nobody dared show his head above the parapet? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
No, we go subterranean from now on, that's right. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Any movement by day would have been suicidal, yeah. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
But the British paid a devastating price | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
for their narrow victory at Ypres. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
56,000 British soldiers were killed or wounded in a month. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
The old professional British Army was largely destroyed. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Thereafter, it would be civilian | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
volunteers and, later, conscripts | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
who accounted for the overwhelming majority | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
of the six million British soldiers who eventually served. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
But however terrible the sacrifice, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
it seems mistaken to imagine that there was ever an easy means | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
by which the war could have been ended. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
BLACKADDER CLIP: 'Gentlemen, our long wait is nearly at an end. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
'Tomorrow morning, General Insanity Melchett invites you' | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
to a mass slaughter. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
We are going over the top! | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
Well, huzzah and hurrah! | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
The hugely successful Blackadder series epitomises the enduring | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
popular view of the First World War | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
that the British Army fell victim to idiot commanders | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
devoid of brains or courage. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Well, best of luck to you all. Sorry I can't be with you, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
but obviously there's no place at the front for an old general | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
with a dicky heart and a wooden bladder. Well... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
'Chuff, chuff, then. See you all in Berlin for coffee and cakes.' | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Most of the war's commanders | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
really were pretty unlovable and unimaginative men. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
But once the most powerful industrial states in Europe were locked in strife, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
it seems wrong to imagine that even a Wellington or Napoleon could have found an easy road to victory. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:07 | |
George Orwell wrote, a generation later, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
that the only way to end a war quickly is to lose it. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
He was right. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
The trench stalemate on the Western Front posed intractable problems | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
which no commander proved able to solve. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Generals needed to be able to control their forces by telephone | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
and could only do so from behind the front | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
rather than at the head of their troops, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
as on history's battlefields. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
But the price of long-distance command was to create | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
a divide between the top brass in their chateaux | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
and their men, calf-deep in mud, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
which has made an enduring and bitter impact | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
on posterity's view of the war. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
In the summer of 1918, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
Allied forces finally broke the stalemate on the Western Front, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
and pushed east across France with the British Army | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
taking more prisoners than all their Allied partners put together. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
The Germans, exhausted and demoralised, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
fell back in growing disarray | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
until an armistice was signed on 11th November. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
Around ten million combatants, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
900,000 of them from the British Empire, had lost their lives. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
Two months after the shooting stopped, the victorious Allies | 0:44:41 | 0:44:46 | |
convened a peace conference at the Palace of Versailles outside Paris. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
Their task was enormous, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
their purposes the most ambitious in history. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
The Versailles summit has often since been branded a failure | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
which condemned Europe to a further generation of strife. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
Prime Minister Lloyd George, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
French premier Georges Clemenceau | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
and American President Woodrow Wilson led the negotiations, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
involving delegations from many other interested nations, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
which lasted for six months, between January and June 1919. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:27 | |
Their intention was to produce a treaty | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
that would not only reshape Europe, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
but also ensure that there could never again be a great war, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
by disarming the Germans and making them pay the costs of the conflict. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
Historian Margaret MacMillan is the author of the most compelling | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
and vivid modern narrative of what happened at Versailles. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
What was at stake for the Allied powers at Versailles? | 0:45:54 | 0:45:59 | |
I think they had two things they had to think about. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
They were deeply concerned about the state of Europe, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
and indeed their own countries included. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
There was real fear of revolution | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
and they were worried that the situation might deteriorate. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
What was also at stake, of course, is they were democracies | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
and they had to think of their publics and the publics | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
had been led to believe and had been kept going in the war | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
by the promise that it was going to make a much better world. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
And so what they had to try to do is create a better world... | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
-Incredibly ambitious objectives. -It was very ambitious, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
but then, of course, the First World War is so unusual | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
compared to earlier wars, because it was so exhausting, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
that you couldn't just say at the end of it, "Well, that's it, done. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
"We'll make a few border changes and we'll go back to normal." You couldn't go back to normal. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
I seem to remember that the Germans eventually paid less | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
than they had made the French pay after they beat the French in 1871. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
What the Allies couldn't say to their own people was, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
"Look, there's no way Germany can pay what really we need to rebuild," | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
because their own people had suffered so much, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
and so they had to put a bill in, but they did was they fudged it. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
They divided the total reparations bill up, | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
so the Germans only paid a fraction. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
Once they paid the fraction, they'd pay the rest, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
which of course the Germans never wanted to do. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
The Allies really failed afterwards | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
to convince their own peoples | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
that their cause had been just, didn't they? | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
Well, I suppose the problem with the First World War | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
is that the expectations are so high, the promises are so great | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
and all sort of promises, as we know, are made during the war | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
to try and keep people in the war, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:22 | |
but there's no way that all those promises can be cashed in after the war is over. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
Abuse fell upon the Versailles Treaty | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
almost before ink was dry on the signatures. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
The economist John Maynard Keynes, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
one of the British treasury delegation, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
published a scathing broadside entitled | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
The Economic Consequences Of The Peace. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
A strong German sympathiser, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
Keynes made a case that the terms imposed upon Germany | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
were both morally unjust and economically foolish. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
How influential was Maynard Keynes in his book | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
The Economic Consequences Of The Peace, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
which absolutely damned Versailles? | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
It was very influential. I mean, he wrote it very quickly, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
it became a bestseller immediately | 0:48:06 | 0:48:07 | |
and it's been in print ever since. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
And it's a brilliant polemic, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:10 | |
it's not fair. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:11 | |
He paints this picture of these greedy, selfish, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
hard-hearted cynical men dividing up Europe, punishing Germany, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
and they are just making a complete mess of it. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
I think that also he represents a whole generation of younger people | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
who had supported the war believing | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
that the world was going to be a better place | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
and when they saw it wasn't going to be, they reacted | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
and blamed the people who were trying to make peace for everything. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
I would have thought one of the huge unfairnesses of Keynes' book | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
is he never set it in the context of saying, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
"All right, even if the Allies have made a fumbled, bungled peace, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
"if the Germans had won and the if the Germans had been making the peace, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
"it would have been a vastly crueller and worse one for Europe." | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
I think there's plenty of evidence that what the German High Command... | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
and they were basically in control of Germany by this point. By 1918, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
you have a military dictatorship in Germany | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
and what they were planning were pretty extensive annexations | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
of other people's lands in the west | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
and in the east, they were planning to extend their influence. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
In the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
they had forced the Bolsheviks, who were desperate, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
to give over whatever gold they had left, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
they'd set up an independent Ukraine. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
I mean, the evidence is, unless they had a complete change of heart, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
it would have been a very harsh peace. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
Today, an awful lot of people have come to feel a real guilt | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
about the Treaty of Versailles. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
"Oh, it was an unfair treaty to Germany, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
"that it contributed to the rise of Hitler, it got it wrong." | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
Was it the harsh vindictive treaty they claim? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
The trouble with the treaty, I think, is that it appeared to be harsher | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
than it actually was and, of course, it was all about implementation | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
and in the end, most of those clauses | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
which limited German power and forced Germany to pay reparations | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
were not really implemented fully. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
And so I think there's a perception of the treaty as very harsh. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
My question always is - what would you have done otherwise? | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
How would you have treated Germany if you felt it had caused the war | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
and caused this catastrophe for Europe, what would you have done? | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
Wouldn't you have tried to limit its power? | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Because Versailles failed to deliver a lasting peace, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
it has become unjustly blamed for the fact | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
that a Second World War had to be fought. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
In truth, so many violent forces and crises shook Europe | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
between 1919 and 1939 that it seems absurd to blame the peacemakers | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
for having failed in their grand purposes. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
In the decade following Versailles, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
all Europe groaned under the burden | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
of paying the bills for the past conflict. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Britain was almost bankrupt, and the moral and political regeneration | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
which Prime Minister Lloyd George had repeatedly promised | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
failed to happen. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
Many men came back from the Army to find their old jobs | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
taken by civilians, often women. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
Whereas, in 1945, veterans returned to a country | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
run by a Labour government committed to creating a welfare state, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
after 1918, the old gang remained in charge | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
of an unreformed British society. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Those who had fought felt that they had been sold a false bill of goods. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
My own grandfather, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
a writer who won a Military Cross as a gunner officer in France, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:28 | |
became one of those who, within a few years of the Armistice, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
asked himself what it had all been for. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Here's an essay my grandfather wrote for a literary magazine in 1923, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
after meeting a group of fellow veterans | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
who had served with him in France. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
They now felt, he said, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
"That they had gone not as 'heroes' | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
"but on a fool's errand to fight in a war that was not worth fighting. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
"They had endured the unsightly, dirty life of the battlefields | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
"with a cheery and modest sense of merit, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
"with a belief that they were making some contribution to a good cause. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:06 | |
"But now, it transpired, this had been a stupid article of faith, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
"which was exploded." | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
My grandfather and his kind felt themselves | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
"strangers in a strange land", | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
divided by the horrendous trench experience | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
from those at home who knew almost nothing about it. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
The poets of the Western Front, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
such men as Wilfred Owen, Robert Graves, Siegfried Sassoon, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
vividly described its horrors and the sense of military futility | 0:52:39 | 0:52:45 | |
in a fashion that later generations have found irresistible. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
Here was the world's worst wound | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
And here with pride | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
'Their name liveth for evermore' | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
The Gateway claims | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Was ever immolation so belied | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
As these intolerably nameless names? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:08 | |
Well might the Dead who struggled in the slime | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
Rise and deride this sepulchre of crime. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
But Sassoon and his kind never addressed the huge question | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
of how on earth Britain could have escaped from the war | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
except by conceding defeat. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
It's a weird British thing | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
that while we are hugely proud that our forefathers fought Hitler, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
we seem almost ashamed that they fought the Kaiser. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
How has the overwhelming perception developed in Britain | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
over the last hundred years that there was nothing worth | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
fighting about in the First World War? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Well, the interesting point is not so much that, after the war, | 0:53:56 | 0:54:03 | |
opinion changed or opinion veered | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
to the point when you said, "That was a bad war, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
"it was badly conducted, it was a waste of time, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
"a waste of blood and it should never have happened." | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
Nobody thought that in 1918, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
I think nobody thought that for another ten years, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
until about 1928... | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
-The poets did. -The poets did, but the interesting thing | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
is whether people would have been interested and affected | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
by what the poets wrote. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
They became expressive of a public opinion in 1928, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
they weren't expressive in 1918. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
By the end of the 1920s, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
there's this worldwide slump. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
Total catastrophic unemployment everywhere, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
especially in Germany. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
The situation seemed to be far worse in 1928 than it had been in 1914 | 0:54:51 | 0:54:57 | |
and by 1933 or so, it has become generally accepted | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
that the war is an unnecessary war that had been bungled, etc, etc. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
So I think that what was very, very important was not so much the fact | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
that the war had been terribly expensive and bloody | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
and the losses were awful, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
it was that nothing seemed to have come out of it of any good. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
Europe's descent into the turmoil and privations of the 1930s | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
caused many people to view the Great War as bungled, the peace shambolic. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
Some perversely blamed the victors for the rise of Hitler and Nazism. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
While many people today | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
still think of the First World War as a "bad" war, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
the Second has come to be seen, by contrast, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
as a virtuous crusade against the Nazi architects of genocide. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
Nobody went to war in 1939 to stop the Germans massacring the Jews. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
I mean, sad though it may be to say that, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
partly because, of course, the serious massacres hadn't yet begun, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
but, principally, because Germany might be doing awful things, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Nazi Germany, domestically, but in those days, nobody saw that | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
as an obligation to go to war in the way in which we would today. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
So, in some respects, both wars break out for similar reasons - | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
great power rivalries and the concerns of the balance | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
of power within Europe, and what is happening within Eastern Europe. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
They are remarkably similar in their causation and it is perverse | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
that we have clothed the Second World War as the good war | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
and the First World War as the bad war. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
And, of course, we have not remained sufficiently, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
I'm talking we, as British now, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:41 | |
have not remained sufficiently independent-minded | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
or sufficiently historically aware | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
to put these things in our own and a proper context. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
No sane person believes that Britain wanted a war in 1914. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
All the great powers bear some responsibility for the carnage, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
but the Germans seem to deserve most, because they refused | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
to use their almost indisputable ability to prevent it. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
They failed to see that nothing they hoped to get out of the war | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
could justify its horrendous prospective risk and actual cost. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Britain emerged from the First World War with little to show | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
save a few worthless colonies and a host of public memorials. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
But the right questions to ask about the conflict | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
and the nation's sacrifice today are whether we could justly | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
or sensibly have stayed out of it. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
And what would have befallen Europe if the Kaiser's Germany had won? | 0:57:45 | 0:57:51 | |
I'm imagining Whitehall as it was on 4th August - | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
jammed with expectant people about to be swept away | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
by the most dreadful cataclysm in European history. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
Nobody in their right mind would suggest making the centenary of 1914 | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
an occasion for celebration. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
But we should have the courage to tell our children and grandchildren | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
that the wartime generation did not fight and die for nothing, | 0:58:17 | 0:58:22 | |
that if their enemies had prevailed, | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
Europe would have paid an even more terrible forfeit. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
To explore further the story of how the world went to war in 1914, | 0:58:40 | 0:58:46 | |
go to bbc.co.uk/ww1. | 0:58:46 | 0:58:52 |