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Cities are, in many ways, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
the greatest invention that human beings have brought the world. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Cities have been expanding and urbanisation has been expanding on | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
the globe in an exponential fashion. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Most extraordinarily, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
we are urbanising people on the planet at maybe one and half million | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
people every week. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
In less than two months, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
there'll be the equivalent to another Los Angeles | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
metropolitan area on this planet. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
This scale and speed of urbanisation | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
has never, ever happened in human history. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
This is the first time. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
When you look at what is being built in cities, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
you have endless, endless, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
row after row, of homogenising towers. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
And you see more and more highways. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
At this moment, you're going to | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
shape the cities for generations to come. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
People need to realise this is an | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
opportunity which will never come again. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
There are a couple of ways of approaching the design of cities. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
The question is always - who decides | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
what the physical form will be... | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
..how the city is going to function... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
..and who is going to live in the city? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
In order to understand what's happening today... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
..we need to think about two great figures | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
in the middle of the 20th century, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
who embodied the struggle for the city. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
The legendary power broker, Robert Moses, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
who represented the authority of the great man who was going to come into | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
the city with his carving knife | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and clear away the cancerous tissue... | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
..and replace it with the shiny implements of modernist planning. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
You have to move a lot of people out of the way of a big housing project | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
or slum-clearance project. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
A lot of them are not going to like it. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Many of them are misinformed. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
In opposition to the homogenising clarity of Moses was Jane Jacobs. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
I have very little faith... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
..in, in... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
even the kind of person who prefers | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
to take a large, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
overall view of things. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Jacobs was an outsider. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
She believed the city is not about buildings, the city is about people. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
It is about public spaces and the street | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and she stood up for that. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
She evolved both a theory of what made a good and just city and a | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
theory of opposition to the kind of | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
planning practice that Moses represented. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
There's a prudishness, a fear of life, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
a wish to direct things from some | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
uncontaminated refuge, that is part and parcel of their bad plan. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
They were famously at odds with each other. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
It really did become a war between opposing forces. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
Today, we're still fighting these battles across the world. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
When we look across the spectrum of all the problems generated by | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
urbanisation, there is the | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
extraordinary realisation that, my gosh, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
you know, these have been problems that have been around for the last | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
100 years in cities. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
New York, of course, is the greatest example of that. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
In the 1930s, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
New York was the world's greatest city, you know? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
A very special place. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Just the exuberance of metropolitan life in the early 20th century. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
That's, you know, the great age of the first real, great skyscrapers, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
you know, the Empire State Building is at the very climax of that. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
But then it all kind of crashes with the Depression. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Through the entire decade of the '30s, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
it's just one problem after another. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Now, this is an unfortunate period for the city. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
We've done an immense amount to cure these diseases and we have much more | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
to do. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
Robert Moses started to work in an era, where we had a great many | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
people living in truly horrible conditions. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
He began his professional life in opposition to those conditions. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
Moses emerged out of the progressive movement early in the | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
20th-century in New York. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
The progressives were eager to improve the city. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
His early work in developing public parks and public beaches was about | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
making life better for people who were not rich. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Now, if we don't clean out these slums, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
the central areas are going to rot. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
And it's all nonsense to say that the problem can be solved by | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
rehabilitating and fixing up Old Law Tenements. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
It can't be done. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
That problem, we've got to face. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Just about every progressive believed that the way to solve the | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
city's problems was to wipe the slate clean and start all over again. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
We didn't understand how high the price was, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
how we were giving up so many things that were so very important, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
until Jane Jacobs came along. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I just loved coming to New York. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
It was inexhaustible. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Just to walk around its streets and wonder at it. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
So many streets different, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
so many neighbourhoods different, so much going on. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
She lived in Greenwich Village, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and just viscerally felt the pulse of the city, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
and was extraordinarily intuitive, was extremely observant. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
New York was a place where you don't have to be big and important and | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
rich or have a great plot of land | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
or a great development scheme or something like that, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
to do something, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
and maybe even do something new and do something interesting. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
A place that has scope for all kinds of people. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
What she saw was the soul of New York and what it meant to be a city, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
and a city meaning a community of people. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
After the war, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
the most sensational thing that came was the full flowering of | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
this vision of the expressway tower city. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
This generation of idealistic city planners comes along | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
and they are infected with the modernist purity idea. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And they certainly have the tools at their disposal to sweep away large | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
tracts of land. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
We recognise the problems your community faces, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
and we know that you share them with hundreds of cities everywhere. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
Now, what's involved in making your city a better place? | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Well, things like housing, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
industrial development, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
better streets and highways. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Improving all these things adds up to a better city. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
I'm sure that you will see the exciting opportunity that exists for | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
your city to become better. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
The planners conceiving these urban renewal projects are doing this from | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
that godlike vantage point in the sky. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
To be able to look down, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
and you're able to imagine massive transformations. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
They thought that applying the logic | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
of the machine age was going to do that. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
The problem had to be solved by some supervisor noticing where the slums | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
were, noticing where the traffic was, and going in and bulldozing... | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
..and building grand projects. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Well, we got out a brochure just now, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
telling when everybody has to move. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Robert Moses was the great embodiment of this. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
I don't honestly believe that, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
considering the large numbers of people we have had to move out the | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
way of public housing and other public improvements, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
I don't believe that we've done any very substantial amount of harm. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
There must be people who are discommoded, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
inconvenienced, or call it what you will, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
on the old theory that you can't | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
make an omelette without breaking some eggs. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
After the Second World War, Robert Moses began to amass power. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
He was the longest Parks Commissioner in the city of New York, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
and he got power to build parkways, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and was appointed the city's construction coordinator. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
He built thousands of apartments. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
He became urban renewal tsar, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
the head of the mayor's committee on slum clearance. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
By the time that Moses was running the urban renewal programme, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
we had torn down, literally, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
thousands of tenement buildings in cities like New York and Chicago. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
You know, there is the prewar Moses and the post-war Moses. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
The prewar Moses was mostly an angel. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
Post-war Moses was increasingly problematic. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
For nearly half a century, this man has pushed people around New York. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
Almost anybody who is anybody has cursed him, fought him, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
knuckled under to him and admired him. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
The list of his adversaries include Franklin Roosevelt, Fannie Hurst, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Elmer Davis, who once compared him to Hitler, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Walter O'Malley and hundreds of | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
thousands of landowners who thought | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
their property was sacred. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
and Robert Moses was absolutely powerful. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
So, he had amassed not simply an incredibly amount of power, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but had insulated himself from oversight by political authorities | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
and by the broader public. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
Don't forget that it is one thing to buy a park or a great big chunk of | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
land from one owner, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
it's quite another thing to get a right of way where hundreds and even | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
thousands of people own it. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Yet theoretically, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
and according to some of the goo-goos and uplift organisations, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
we are to negotiate with every individual until he's happy. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Can you imagine when you build anything under those conditions? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Moses, along with all of the people who were involved in the urban | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
renewal programme, had an agreed-upon agenda. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
People needed adequate housing, adequate recreation facilities, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:08 | |
and the motor car was coming to America and it needed to be | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
accommodated on a large scale. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
That was the agenda. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Moses became one polar view of what you could do... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
Until, all of sudden, there was an alternative. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Jane Jacobs has, in The Death And Life Of Great American Cities, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
written a book that advances with the controlled and implacable power | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
of a bulldozer against modern, orthodox city planning and rebuilding. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
I first began to look into city planning and housing, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
and it was unbelievably awful. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Insane. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
When Death And Life comes out in the '60s, it's a clarion call. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
It's Martin Luther nailing those 95 theses to the cathedral door. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
The book is really the first cogent, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
accessible articulation of a whole set of ideas that questions the | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
mainstream thinking about our cities. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
She is constantly probing. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
By that example, she is saying, "You, reader, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
"you have the ability to question." | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Middle-income housing projects which are truly marvels of dullness and | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
regimentation, sealed against any buoyancy or vitality of city life. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
Luxury housing projects that mitigate their inanity, or try to, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
with a vapid vulgarity. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Cultural centres that are unable to support a good book store. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
Civic centres that that are avoided by everyone but bums, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
who have fewer choices of loitering place than others. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Expressways that eviscerate great cities. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
She was questioning orthodoxy, and in essence saying, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
the emperor has no clothes, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
at a time when women were not | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
welcomed in those kinds of environments. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
If you want to see what kind of a city can flourish, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
you need to look at the cities where it is happening. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
There must be a lot of diversity. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Continually building up diversity of kinds of work. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Diversity of kinds of people. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
She revealed the way to create better cities is by working with the | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
people who live there and the fabric that existed. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
The traditional fabric that people inhabited. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
There have to be areas of the city which people use a lot, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
walking on the streets, and | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
use at all times of day. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Jane understood neighbourhoods need lots of connections. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Short blocks and lots of turns, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
allowing different kinds of interaction. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Neighbourhoods need a mix of buildings, old and new. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
They need diverse uses, 24/7, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
so that they're safer. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Constant connection with neighbourhoods around, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
so that you are not isolated. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
You need public spaces that are accessible to people. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
It's all a great network in the city. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
It's all related. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
She observed these early qualities, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
at a time when housing was being built in the completely | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
opposite direction. They were isolating communities. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
They were creating dead-end streets. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
They were separating work uses and recreation and residential uses. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
She was explaining how life worked. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Before Death And Life, she was a journalist. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
She was a very savvy observer of human behaviour, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
of places, of cities. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Jacobs started writing about the city when she was 18 years old. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
She was a secretary for a candy company. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
She was determined to write on the side. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
She did what any good, enterprising writer would do - | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
she got freelance jobs. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
Her curiosity was so remarkable. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
She writes about specific economic districts in the city. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
She does the Jewellery district, she does the Fur District, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
she does the Flower District. She develops a voice, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
and where does she sell them to? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Vogue magazine. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
She was writing pieces about what she was observing and seeing in | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
this city. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
The best way to plan for Downtown | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
is to see how people use it today. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
There is no logic that can be superimposed on the city. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
People make it. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
And it is to them, not buildings, that we must fit our plans. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
She's curious, she's got a really good craft. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
She knows how to write. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
And she finds herself on a staff job with Architectural Forum. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
And this is Jacobs, an associate editor of the magazine | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Architectural Forum, who has been a | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
New Yorker for 27 years, and loves it. Mrs Jane Jacobs. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
One fine day, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
Architectural Forum put me on an assignment about some urban renewal | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
projects that were being done, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
in Philadelphia, as a matter of fact. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
We have found, in our work in rebuilding Philadelphia, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
that a central design idea, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
well-developed and clearly expressed, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
can of itself become a major creative force and can make more | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
meaningful the work of individual architects | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
in various parts of an area. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
I find out what they had in mind and what they were planning to do, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
and how it was going to look according to the drawings, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and what great things it was going to accomplish. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
I came back and wrote enthusiastic articles about this. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
All was well. I was in very cosy with the planners and the | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
project builders. Anyhow, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
time passed and some of these things were actually built. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Society Hill is residential. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
The oldest part of the city, it is | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
the site of an intensive restoration project. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Houses, many predating the American Revolution, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
slowly had grown dilapidated, and had been converted to other uses. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
In addition, there was room for new, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
dramatically contemporary apartment towers. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
Society Hill emerges as a combination of ancient and modern. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
But they didn't work at all the way they should have worked. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
The city around them, didn't react, the way, theoretically, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
the city around them should have reacted. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
She is the hypersensitive antennae, you know, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
that's picking up something here that no-one else is seeing. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Why did stores that looked very cheerful and were supposed to be | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
doing a great and booming business in the plans, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
actually go empty or languish? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
Well, I would bring these questions up with the people who had been | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
responsible for the planning of these places... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
..and I got quite a lot of alibis, boiling down to, "People are stupid, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
"they don't do what they are supposed to do." | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
And this was a great shock to me. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Never mind highfalutin theories and so forth, what are we looking at, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
what are we seeing? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
Do you want to trust some theory | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
that somebody figured out sitting in an office | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
somewhere or do you want to trust what you actually see out there | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
with your own eyes? Maybe the | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
experts didn't really know as much as they pretended to know. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
About this time, a gentleman came into the office of the | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
Architectural Forum. He was very much worried about East Harlem. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
About $300-million-worth | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
of city rebuilding money had been put to work. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
He could see that their problems were growing greater than they had | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
ever been in the past. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
She goes up to Harlem and she gets taken around by William Kirk of the | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
Union Settlement House and he's | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
showing her all the things that are | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
being lost in this community, what is being demolished. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
He would walk me around East Harlem. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
We would stop in at stores, stop in at housing projects. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
I began to see that just out of the accumulation of all of this, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
I was beginning to understand how things worked. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
Many little details of cause and effect. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
She describes it as the very beginning, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
the sort of moment when the light bulb kind of went off in her head. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
What I was seeing, in fact, was what | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
makes the very intricate order of the city. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
This has to do with a quality that's called, rather vaguely, urbanism. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
Cities are extremely physical places. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
It's not an inert mass. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
It's enterprises and people reacting in certain ways to each other and | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
mutually supporting each other. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
And wherever it worked properly, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
there seemed to be an awful lot of diversity. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Many different kinds of enterprises, many different kinds of people, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
mutually supporting and supplementing each other. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Jane Jacobs is thinking about - how does a neighbourhood work? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
How does a street work? What functions does a sidewalk play? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
What she's really after is a new theory of how cities function. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
In The Death And Life Of Great American Cities, she's asking - | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
what is the problem of a city? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
She argues the city is a problem of organised complexity. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Looks on the surface | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
like it's complex and disordered | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
but in fact there's an underlying structure. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
It looks like chaos but in fact there's a balance, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
there's a productive mix of different functions and organisms. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
She draws on ecological metaphors, biological metaphors, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
to suggest how it's really an ecosystem. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
She wrote... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
The leaves dropping from the trees in the autumn, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
the interior of an aeroplane engine... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
..the entrails of a dissected rabbit... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
..the city desk of a newspaper... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
..all appear to be chaos... | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
..if they are seen without comprehension. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Once they are seen as systems of order, they actually look different. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Jacobs understood - when cities really work, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
they're phenomena that come from the bottom up. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
So a great neighbourhood is what happens when thousands of different | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
actors - and that's the shopkeepers, the bar owners, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:13 | |
the people walking the streets... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
They spontaneously come together in an uncoordinated but meaningful way, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
to create the kind of flavour and personality of a distinct neighbourhood. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
That's not planned, that's much more a question of organised complexity. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Planners, they don't see any of the wondrous human qualities that Jacobs | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
is seeing. The very forms of urbanism that she wrote about, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
the urban renewal-ists sought to destroy. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
What would you do for Harlem? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
The slum corner of Harlem, I'd take that and all the other similar slums, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
I'd tear them all out, every bit of them. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
It's a cancerous thing and you've just got to wipe them out. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
I say that if you have a cancerous growth, Phil, it has to be carved out. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
All right, you've carved it out, now you've replaced it with something new. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Yes, that's right. Something that's decent, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
something that involves light and | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
air and new schools and playgrounds and parks. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
And I say that's a hell of a big contribution and certainly all the | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
contribution that I would be able to make with all the people I can | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
persuade to make it. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Instead of following the natural way that people used space, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
city planning in this post-war era, and modern architecture, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
created this abstract vision of what it should be, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
concentrated on the utopian and the ideal. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
In the 1920s, you get the rise of this curious, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
mystical figure out of Switzerland, who calls himself Le Corbusier. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
He's done some architecture and he's thinking himself not only an | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
architect but a great urban visionary. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
Le Corbusier envisioned tearing down huge sections of Paris... | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
..and replacing it with slabs, modern slabs, cruciform buildings. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
He proposed superhighways | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
that went through green, open space... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
..and they were going to terminate in super blocks and the super blocks | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
had high-rise buildings, and the high-rise buildings were so that people could have | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
light and air and could get out of the slums. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
And he was thoroughly of the opinion that if you had good architecture, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
the lives of people would be improved and that architects improved people and | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
people would improve architecture | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
until perfectibility would descend on us | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
like the Holy Ghost and we'd be happy for ever after. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Corb did this plan and made his models and it excited a lot of | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
people, but in France they weren't so excited. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
The idea of the La Ville radieuse and the tower in a park ended up moving to America, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
just like the rest of modernism did. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
The public housing model that we picked in the United States was a | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
misinterpretation of Le Corbusier. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
The towers in his 1923 plan were for offices and then around the towers | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
were low, seven-storey buildings with generous balconies. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
He never called for people living in high-rise towers. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
It was one of those odd moments where a set of intellectual ideas | 0:31:02 | 0:31:08 | |
could be corrupted very quickly and easily into something cheap and commercial. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
The simplest formula to make quick money is modernism. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
It was very cheap, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
very quick to produce and could suddenly enable huge amounts of | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
building to happen very quickly. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
And Robert Moses totally understood that. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
The one thing missing completely from that vision is streets and the | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
idea that a street is something you actually walk on and a street is a | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
place where things happen. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Jane Jacobs saw that at a time when everybody else | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
was thinking the sidewalk was a kind of foolish leftover of another age. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
There must be eyes upon the street. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
Eyes belonging to those we may call the natural proprietors of the street. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
The buildings on a street equipped to handle strangers and to ensure | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
the safety of both residents and | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
strangers, must be oriented to the street. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
They cannot turn their backs or blank sides on it | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
and leave it blind. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Philosophically, what she recognised was - safety doesn't come from armed | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
security guards blocking the entrances. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
What makes a neighbourhood great is precisely the fact that there | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
ARE people on the street. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
The sidewalk must have users on it fairly continuously. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Both to add to the numbers of effective eyes on the street and to | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
induce the people in the buildings along the street to watch the | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
sidewalks in sufficient numbers. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Nobody enjoys sitting on a stoop or looking out a window on an empty street. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
She went out and looked at things. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
When she said that the doormen were paid eyes on the street and that the | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
same thing could happen from bars on the street in West Village, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
I understood what she was talking about. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Nobody has to worry about things, where there are a lot of people on | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
the street. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
Jane Jacobs reverses the vantage point. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
What is it like actually to live in these places from street level? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
And it's that simple change of perspective that led her away from | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
the orthodoxy of the time. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Robert Moses had no interest, really, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
in paying attention to what was there in neighbourhoods. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
What was there, he viewed as simply an obstacle to what he wanted to | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
make happen. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
People oppose Moses all the time. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Whether he wanted Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
a bridge across the entrance to the New York harbour, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
a parking lot where mothers air their babies in Central Park, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
a highway down the spine of Fire Island or one through the | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
middle of Washington Square, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
vehement opposition was what he expected and what he got. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Oh, well, there's opposition to everything that's progressive, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
everything that's new. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
The opinion of people who were activists, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
as we were in the Village, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
were Robert Moses was terrible and Robert Moses was destroying the city | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
and Robert Moses had to be stopped. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Jane got involved in several efforts to stop Robert Moses from ripping | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
the city to pieces, starting with | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
his attempt to run Fifth Avenue down through Washington Square. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
The first time I became aware of the threat of what the highways were | 0:35:07 | 0:35:13 | |
doing and could do to New York was | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
when along came the plan to push Fifth Avenue | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
through Washington Square Park and down below it, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
as a continuous street. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
They wanted to have the Fifth Avenue buses go through the park, down into | 0:35:27 | 0:35:33 | |
West Broadway and change the name of that to Fifth Avenue South, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
so as to make it more valuable for | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
rents and that was a Robert Moses project. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
This wasn't in the abstract, for Jane Jacobs, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
this was happening close to home, right in her back yard. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
This was where she brought her kids in strollers, to play in that park. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
This is the circle. On weekdays, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
it's a wading pool for Village kids but on | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Sundays the water is turned off and | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
the circle becomes a meeting place for | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
guitarists, bongo and banjo players, Villagers on a stroll, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
folk singers and tourists. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
To me and to many others, we were outraged about a road going through | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
Washington Square and we were going to save Washington Square Park. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
Washington Square was really Jane Jacobs' | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
beginning as a civic activist. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
All of the activists, myself included, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
were involved in trying to stop that. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
The leaders there included Jane Jacobs and Charlie Hayes. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:43 | |
Jane was not deferential to power, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
so she ups the ante on that Washington Square fight and says, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
"I'm going to write the mayor." | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
I have heard with alarm and almost with disbelief, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
the plans to run a sunken highway through the centre of Washington Square. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
My husband and I are amongst the | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
citizens who truly believe in New York, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
to the extent that we have bought a home in the heart of the city and | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
remodelled it with a lot of hard work. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
It is very discouraging to do our best to make the city more habitable | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
and then to learn that the city itself is thinking up schemes to | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
make it uninhabitable. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
Jane's example that she set for herself | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
is an example for other people to follow. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
If a highway is coming | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
through that's going to be very destructive | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and you know it's an idiotic thing, you fight that highway. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
Protest against the stultification and the status quo, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and things that touch you and your neighbourhood directly. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
I think she was effective because of the force of her personality and the | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
fact that she was able to mobilise a lot of people. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
Margaret Mead, Susan Sontag, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
all the various folks that Jane was involved with, were drawn to the | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
tangibility of this particular fight. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
We have too many critics, we have too many mud throwers, too many | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
people who foul their nest and know it all - that's not trouble. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Too many people sitting around calling names, like Mumford, people like that... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
What do they contribute? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
You have any problem to solve, any difficulty, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
never call upon them. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
Call upon them for four-letter words. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
They don't even have very good vocabulary, in my book. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Robert Moses wasn't used to anybody saying no to him. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
He would fire off these letters to people of Greenwich Village. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I realised that in the process of rebuilding south of Washington Square | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
there would be cries of anguish from those who are honestly convinced the | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
Sistine Madonna was painted in the basement of one of the old buildings | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
there. Not presently occupied by a cabaret or speakeasy. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
That Michelangelo's David was fashioned in a garret in | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
the same neighbourhood. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
And that anyone who lays hands on the sacred landmarks will be | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
executed if he has not already been struck down by a bolt from heaven. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
They managed to show Moses as this bully, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
and they got a lot of important people on their side, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
including Eleanor Roosevelt. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
I would feel very strongly that destroying the square by putting | 0:39:24 | 0:39:30 | |
a large artery for traffic through the square, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
would harm not only the square | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
itself but the whole neighbourhood and, really, the city. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
I am not opposed to change, in fact, I believe in change. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
But I think that good tradition has to be preserved. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
Jacobs was a brilliant strategist when it came to civil action. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
She had a real sense for the photo op. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
In Washington Square Park, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
she arranged for her daughter and another girl to conduct a | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
ribbon-tying ceremony. This, of course, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
was the opposite of a ribbon cutting ceremony that politicians | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
love to celebrate with public works. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
At one of the hearings, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
where Moses was foolish enough to say that nobody is against this | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
except a bunch of mothers! | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
How could he be so tactless? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
Only if you think people don't matter at all, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
could you make a statement like that! | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
She was a housewife, that's how they treated her. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
I mean, of course, she was a professional journalist that was not somehow... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
When you wanted to dismiss her, you would just stay -"Who's this | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
"housewife from Hudson Street?" | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Try to mess with a bunch of mothers. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
I think that he underestimated what the effectiveness of these mothers | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
might in fact be. Literally thousands of people turned to... | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
And it took quite a few years, but did save it. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
It ended up being an extraordinarily potent opposition, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
which he had never met before. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
Moses had never met this before. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
He had his... He had it coming. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Washington Square Park was certainly the first public defeat for | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
Robert Moses, and it was a major chink in his armour. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
The battle over Washington Square is Jane's first taste of victory. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
Not long after the Washington Square victory, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
Death And Life is published. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
And Bennett Cerf, head of Random House, sends a copy to Robert Moses. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:46 | |
And Moses sends it back. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:49 | |
I am returning the book you sent me. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Aside from the fact it is intemperate and | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
inaccurate, it is also libellous. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
I call your attention, for example, to page 131. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
He didn't even want to recognise | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
the existence of the book or of Jane. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
Others were also not charitable, including Lewis Mumford. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:43 | |
Lewis Mumford, the great architectural critic for The New Yorker, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
his famous review of her book had the title - | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
Mother Jacobs' Home Remedies. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
He is immediately telling you that Jane Jacobs was just this sweet old lady | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
trying to get some homoeopathic medicine into the city, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
instead of doing the serious surgery that a real doctor would do. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Right around the time of Death and Life of Great American Cities, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
ironically, her own neighbourhood, the West Village, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
the very neighbourhood she had proclaimed as a model for what | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
neighbourhoods could be, was earmarked for urban renewal. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Moses was Commissioner of Housing in the urban renewal effort to build | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
more public housing in New York City. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
He actually stepped down from that position, but before he did, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
he designated the West Village as eligible for slum designation. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
I got the book finished, finally. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
And thought, "Ah, now I can think about something else." | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
And for three weeks, I did think about other things. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
Then I opened the New York Times one morning and found that our own | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
area of the West Village was going | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
to have an urban renewal project in it. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
She really didn't think of herself as a community organiser, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
as a street fighter, she was a writer. She didn't appreciate the distraction, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
she really didn't, but she knew she had to do it. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
She was sad, I mean, she would shrug her shoulders and say, "What can I do?" | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
You know that thing about an inert object? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
Well, there is nothing more inert than a government bureau. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
There is nothing more inert than a planning office. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
It gets going, in one direction, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
and it's never going to change of its own accord. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
So I suddenly had to put into practice my own premises that if | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
anything was going to happen to reverse the way things were being done, | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
then the citizens had to take some initiative and the citizens had to | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
frustrate the planners. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
I thereupon began to devote myself to frustrating planners. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
And so did the whole neighbourhood. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
Jane calls a meeting of local residents at the Lion's Head, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
a favourite neighbourhood hang-out, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
organises people to speak at public meetings, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
and gets everybody to wear | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
sunglasses with an X painted on them. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
They were fairly sophisticated, I think, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
in the tactics that they would employ, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
and they are tackling somebody who has been writing for a living for a | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
couple of decades and knows how to make an argument. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
We all knew one another and were constantly planning on how to get | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
the mayor on our side and threaten him, and we did, we got him on our side! | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
She filed a lawsuit against the city of New York, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
to try to block the urban renewal plan. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
I think that the time has come to put the West Village urban renewal | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
proposal to rest. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:15 | |
Promptly remove the West Village designation - | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
They prevailed, and at the end of the day, the slum designation never | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
happened in the West Village. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
She effectively showed the people of Greenwich Village that they could | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
fight City Hall, that they did not have to accept the plans of the | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
planners at their drafting tables, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
and that they could reject those lines being drawn around their homes. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
Any city that's tearing down its buildings just to make money | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
for a development or | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
just to add novelty, is doing something criminal. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
DISTANT VOICES | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
A fellow who gets to the upper storeys of a public housing project, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:22 | |
where he has a view. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:23 | |
What's the matter with him? He's got a nice place to live, hasn't he? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
I think that the objection that some might have was that the view was | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
just of another housing development on another highway. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
No, no. No, I don't concede that. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
It wasn't just that they wanted new housing in place of the old, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
they wanted an entirely different-looking city. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
Robert Moses and his constituency, wanted it all to be very simplified, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:03 | |
very sterilised. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:04 | |
It was the hubris of Moses and his ilk, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
the idea that we're going to rearrange the spaces and therefore | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
we're going to rearrange the social relations. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
It had to do with this towers in the park mentality, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
it had to do with the creation of a new form of ghetto. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
Old downtowns were being bulldozed in the name of | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
people but not for the people - | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
they were destroying lives and | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
replacing them with these housing projects. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
And why? Because it was making a lot of people a lot of money. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
It was making developers a lot of money. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
Politicians a lot of money. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
And it was fast money. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
So they kept doing it over and over and over again, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
in cities all over the country. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
It was several years after Robert Moses had begun | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
building these projects, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
that the other cities caught up. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
What they were building was the Corbusian model. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
You saw the kind of building of these housing projects across the | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
United States, you know, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
25-storey, block-apartment buildings, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
with playgrounds and gardens | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
around them, that looked great in all the drawings. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
Here in bright new buildings with spacious grounds, they can live. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:44 | |
Live with indoor plumbing, electric lights, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
fresh-plastered walls, and the rest of the conveniences that are | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
expected in the 20th century. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
In these projects, children can play in safety on the wide lawns, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:58 | |
not in the littered alleys and vacant lots. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
We must make sure that every family | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
in America lives in a home of dignity. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:10 | |
In a neighbourhood of pride and a | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
community of opportunity and a city of promise and hope. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:18 | |
But what ended up happening is - nobody ever hung out | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
in the kind of public space around these projects, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
so they became these under-populated places, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
and they actually very quickly became some of the most | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
dangerous places in the world. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Concentrated poverty. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
This is really the worst thing about the projects. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
And therefore amplified all of the | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
pathological and anti-social elements of poverty. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:50 | |
These institutions became fortressed. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
You become cornered, you feel cornered, you feel trapped. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
They left people more vulnerable. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
Public housing became places of fear. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
High-rise fortresses like these were built this way to save money. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
In the long run, they didn't even do that. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
The problem was that they were all wrong for the people who wound up | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
living in them. Rural blacks, broken families. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
Allowed in and to stay in, only if their incomes were low enough. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
Most of these now are engaged in something called urban renewal, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
which means moving the negroes out, it means negro removal, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
that is what it means. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
The federal government is an accomplice to this fact. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Now, we're talking about human beings. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
There is not such a thing as a monolithic wall or some abstraction | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
called the negro problem, these are negro boys and girls, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
who at 16 and 17 don't believe the country means anything that it says, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
don't feel they have any place here. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
The phrase - "Urban renewal is negro removal" - was an acknowledgement by | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
African-Americans that this was an assault, removal in the sense of | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
out, over there, away, far away. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
some place inhospitable, where you can just die. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
And a huge part of what happened to people was that they were put in | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
inhospitable places and African-Americans were put in at the | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
margins of the city, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
in places that could barely support the vital kind of life that | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
people need to prosper. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
It's as though the builders have not realised that children would be | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
living there. Nor did they foresee the crime, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
the vandalism, which is really the acting out of rage and self-loathing | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
that can make people want to destroy their own property. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
People had lived in communities that were messy, but they worked. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
People had social capitals, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
people watched each other's child when somebody was not there. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
All this was actually taken away. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
People had no investment, emotionally, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
people resented these projects that had been built for them | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
because they were poor. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
You see a lot of windows broken up there. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:02 | |
They all were broken by children throwing rocks. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
And what's more natural than children throwing rocks? | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
They don't have nothing else to do. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
There is absolutely no recreation facilities here. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
And the playground like this is a mockery for thousands of children. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
Tenants had no input as to what they wanted. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
It was built because somebody said, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
this would be good for children to play on. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
There was graffiti everywhere and there were drug problems and all the | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
problems you can imagine coming from when you uproot people | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
without their will. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
And what do you expect? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:40 | |
That they will love these projects? | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
No, that wasn't going to happen. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
Pruitt-Igoe, if you really see an aerial view of it, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
those buildings were spaced quite a distance apart. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
If you took them and threw them on their on their faces, | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
which is where they should have fallen, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
you would get lovely housing 20-feet high! | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
You can take a look at a little exercise here, if these towers, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
the slabs are removed from the towers, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
you begin to see a different attitude of what is visible, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
you begin to see through the site, | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
as opposed to looking at a slab of | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
buildings running... | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
One thing the tenants are really stressing, is for a | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
low-rise building closer to a home, something that they can relate to. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:33 | |
What we're trying to do here is to take a given situation and try to | 0:54:33 | 0:54:39 | |
bring it back to a community where people would want to live. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:45 | |
After thinking about the problem of the Pruitt-Igoe housing project, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
the city planners blew it up. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
Just dynamited it away. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
The projects ended up being tremendous failures. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
We know all about that failure now. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
And everywhere they existed - 30, 40 years later, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
they are all being torn down. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
You can't put streets back where you took them out. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
You can't put stores back, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
you can't put the daily life and all the institutions. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
It takes generations to build up those institutions. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
That's what was eliminated by these projects. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
The superblock urbanism of the modernist ilk that Jane Jacobs | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
writes about as destroying cities - | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
you also have at the very same time, the automobile being rammed through. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
This causes as many problems as the urban renewal projects. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
The most profound influence on the city in the last 100 years has been | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
the automobile. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
The decision made almost inevitably, was to drive the freeways, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
the interstates, right through the cities and through neighbourhoods, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
whose value city elites and developers wanted to ultimately reclaim. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
We wouldn't have any American economy | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
without the automobile business. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
That is literally true. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
To believe that this is a great industry that has to go on and has | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
to keep on turning out cars and trucks and buses, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
then there have to be places for them to run. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
There have to be modern roads. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
The first of Moses' commandments for progress is - thou shalt drive. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
Jane Jacobs is one of the very first | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
people to say the car is not supreme. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
The people who walk on the sidewalk are what makes the city. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
It isn't hard to understand that producing and consuming automobiles | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
might seem all-important to the management of Ford | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
and Chrysler and General Motors, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
but it's harder to understand why the production and | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
consumption of automobiles should be the purpose of life for all the rest of us. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
Moses was about realising a very particular vision of the American Dream, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:13 | |
that was - what's good for General Motors is good for the United States of America. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:18 | |
I am privileged to present the winner of the award, | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
Robert Moses of New York. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:23 | |
Robert Moses, New York City Construction Coordinator, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
is a world-famous highway planner. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:33 | |
A man who knows his business. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:35 | |
What he was really doing was tearing up vital neighbourhoods, for example, | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
in the South Bronx, where he built the Cross Bronx Expressway. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:46 | |
It's just the single most destructive decision | 0:58:56 | 0:58:59 | |
ever made about US cities. | 0:58:59 | 0:59:01 | |
The Cross Bronx Expressway, | 0:59:01 | 0:59:03 | |
an artery whose history was marked by such gigantic problems of | 0:59:03 | 0:59:06 | |
construction, financing, relocation and organised obstruction, | 0:59:06 | 0:59:11 | |
that it took 17 years to complete. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:13 | |
The Cross Bronx Expressway ripped through the heart and the middle of | 0:59:23 | 0:59:27 | |
the Bronx, creating what was a wall between what eventually was known as | 0:59:27 | 0:59:32 | |
the northern and the southern part of the Bronx. | 0:59:32 | 0:59:34 | |
Robert Moses thought he would get away with anything. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:39 | |
Who was going to stop him? | 0:59:39 | 0:59:40 | |
He's got all the city politicians around him, | 0:59:40 | 0:59:43 | |
it was bringing in a lot of federal money from the | 0:59:43 | 0:59:45 | |
Federal Highway Programme. | 0:59:45 | 0:59:47 | |
And that gets passed around. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:51 | |
Today, our greatest single problem is tenant removal. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:58 | |
The tendency on the part of people in politics as well as those who are | 0:59:59 | 1:00:03 | |
living on these rights-of-way who are immediately affected... | 1:00:03 | 1:00:09 | |
is to assume that the people who are doing this job are unsympathetic | 1:00:09 | 1:00:14 | |
or even sadistic. | 1:00:14 | 1:00:16 | |
Of course, that isn't the truth at all. | 1:00:18 | 1:00:21 | |
But when you remove the daily life, when you remove the stores, | 1:00:21 | 1:00:25 | |
remove the places that constitute where they spend time, | 1:00:25 | 1:00:30 | |
what we would call the public realm - the sidewalks, the bars, | 1:00:30 | 1:00:34 | |
the grocery stores, you remove the city. | 1:00:34 | 1:00:37 | |
And that's what Jane Jacobs says, | 1:00:38 | 1:00:40 | |
you draw away the people with a prescription that is guaranteed to | 1:00:40 | 1:00:44 | |
hurt cities. | 1:00:44 | 1:00:46 | |
Well, you have to bullet through, you've got to do it. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:49 | |
It's like all these things that happen with opposition. | 1:00:49 | 1:00:51 | |
The fact that 2,000 people come and agitate against the extension of an | 1:00:51 | 1:00:55 | |
expressway doesn't prove that you're not going to build the expressway. | 1:00:55 | 1:00:59 | |
So many of the problems of the South Bronx grew directly out of the | 1:01:01 | 1:01:06 | |
devastation caused by building that expressway. | 1:01:06 | 1:01:08 | |
Which, of course, became totally | 1:01:11 | 1:01:13 | |
gridlocked 15 minutes after it was open. | 1:01:13 | 1:01:15 | |
I mean, Moses thought he was improving the city by bringing it up to date, | 1:01:17 | 1:01:21 | |
by making it work for the automobile. | 1:01:21 | 1:01:24 | |
And as it became clear that urban highways were in fact profoundly | 1:01:25 | 1:01:31 | |
destructive, it really became a battle between opposing forces. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:37 | |
Of course, in Lower Manhattan, | 1:01:40 | 1:01:43 | |
Moses wanted to build a road right across | 1:01:43 | 1:01:47 | |
the city there. The whole Cast Iron District would have been | 1:01:47 | 1:01:50 | |
basically obliterated. | 1:01:50 | 1:01:52 | |
The Lower Manhattan Expressway was | 1:01:55 | 1:01:58 | |
to have connected the Holland Tunnel | 1:01:58 | 1:02:01 | |
with the Williamsburg and Manhattan bridges. | 1:02:01 | 1:02:04 | |
It would have destroyed most of SoHo, | 1:02:05 | 1:02:08 | |
we would have lost one of the greatest inventories of 19th-century | 1:02:08 | 1:02:12 | |
buildings, not just in New York, but in the world. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:14 | |
The highways, of course, | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
destroyed the neighbourhoods that they went through. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:21 | |
Where was this going to end? | 1:02:21 | 1:02:23 | |
The whole place was going to be laced with highways. | 1:02:24 | 1:02:28 | |
What would we have left of Manhattan? | 1:02:28 | 1:02:30 | |
On any day of the week, if you walk along Canal Street, | 1:02:33 | 1:02:37 | |
and it's often faster than riding, this is what you'll see. | 1:02:37 | 1:02:41 | |
The crush of endless waiting traffic. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:45 | |
Now look at the solution - | 1:02:45 | 1:02:47 | |
the Lower Manhattan Expressway. | 1:02:47 | 1:02:49 | |
The only practical highway crossing serving the Lower Manhattan | 1:02:49 | 1:02:53 | |
commercial and business districts. | 1:02:53 | 1:02:55 | |
Can we afford to let one section of our city slowly strangle in hopeless | 1:02:55 | 1:02:59 | |
traffic congestion? | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
There was an awful campaign against that neighbourhood, | 1:03:02 | 1:03:04 | |
it was called Hell's Hundred Acres. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:07 | |
A bottled-up stagnating section of the city, | 1:03:07 | 1:03:10 | |
no new private buildings erected in 30 years. | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
A valley of economic depression. | 1:03:15 | 1:03:18 | |
The need is urgent. | 1:03:18 | 1:03:20 | |
We must have a Lower Manhattan Expressway now. | 1:03:20 | 1:03:24 | |
The local priest, a church on Broome Street, | 1:03:27 | 1:03:30 | |
had heard about Jane's successful defences fighting Moses, | 1:03:30 | 1:03:34 | |
and asked if she could help. | 1:03:34 | 1:03:36 | |
Father, what effect do you feel that | 1:03:36 | 1:03:38 | |
the expressway will have on the neighbourhood? | 1:03:38 | 1:03:40 | |
Well, the expressway will destroy the neighbourhood. | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
This is the worst thing about these monumental plans. | 1:03:54 | 1:03:57 | |
There is no way... | 1:03:59 | 1:04:01 | |
Old buildings can easily be torn down and new ones put up, | 1:04:01 | 1:04:04 | |
old things adapted to different use. | 1:04:04 | 1:04:06 | |
It's settled. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:10 | |
Well, that's not planning for the future. | 1:04:10 | 1:04:12 | |
Reminded of some of the opposition to his long-time dream for an | 1:04:15 | 1:04:19 | |
expressway across Lower Manhattan, | 1:04:19 | 1:04:21 | |
Moses was specific about what it takes to override the inevitable | 1:04:21 | 1:04:25 | |
roadblocks. You've got to move people, and the political leaders, | 1:04:25 | 1:04:30 | |
naturally, if they have people ticketed and they know where they | 1:04:30 | 1:04:33 | |
are and they vote right, they don't | 1:04:33 | 1:04:34 | |
want to move them and have them go somewhere else. | 1:04:34 | 1:04:37 | |
What I try to do in New York, | 1:04:37 | 1:04:39 | |
what we've done successfully in other places, | 1:04:39 | 1:04:41 | |
which is to pay more money to people, in cash. | 1:04:41 | 1:04:44 | |
Let them take the money and go away. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:46 | |
You have people who rent, they don't own it, | 1:04:46 | 1:04:49 | |
so what difference does it make, | 1:04:49 | 1:04:51 | |
when you are talking about an expressway that costs | 1:04:51 | 1:04:53 | |
$84 million? | 1:04:53 | 1:04:54 | |
Stop being victims. | 1:04:56 | 1:04:58 | |
I think it's wicked, in a way, to be a victim. | 1:04:58 | 1:05:01 | |
It is even wickeder to be a predator, | 1:05:01 | 1:05:03 | |
but it's wicked to be a victim and allow it. | 1:05:03 | 1:05:07 | |
You can't, as an individual, you can't do anything, but you can organise. | 1:05:09 | 1:05:12 | |
If you are being victimised by an expressway that a bureaucracy | 1:05:14 | 1:05:17 | |
is putting through for the benefit of the automobile people, | 1:05:17 | 1:05:21 | |
then you fight that, you refuse to be a victim of that. | 1:05:21 | 1:05:25 | |
What effect do you think this will have on the neighbourhood itself? | 1:05:25 | 1:05:28 | |
It will destroy the neighbourhood. | 1:05:28 | 1:05:30 | |
It's one of the few neighbourhoods where a woman can go down the | 1:05:30 | 1:05:32 | |
street's at night and be safe. And the women know it, and I know it. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:35 | |
Two or three o'clock in the morning, | 1:05:35 | 1:05:37 | |
the men are sitting in their cafes and they are watching you, | 1:05:37 | 1:05:39 | |
taking care of you. They want to build up neighbourhoods like this, | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
they say, "Let's get back to the old, save neighbourhoods." This is it. | 1:05:42 | 1:05:46 | |
"Memorandum to Arthur Hodgkiss from Robert Moses." | 1:05:49 | 1:05:52 | |
"The Lower Manhattan will move very soon. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:57 | |
"Please keep an eye on it." | 1:05:57 | 1:05:59 | |
Are you saying that they're trying to sneak it through? | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
I would say it's a safe bet. | 1:06:05 | 1:06:07 | |
If this thing is passed, | 1:06:07 | 1:06:09 | |
these are how these things happen if they are not watched. | 1:06:09 | 1:06:12 | |
It's a sleeper. Who do you think is pushing this? | 1:06:12 | 1:06:15 | |
Well... | 1:06:15 | 1:06:17 | |
There's only one man that I can think of could be pushing it. | 1:06:17 | 1:06:20 | |
They seem to think they have a choice, that they'd rather stay in | 1:06:20 | 1:06:23 | |
the houses that they've lived in all this time. | 1:06:23 | 1:06:25 | |
..the whole Federal Arterial Aid programme running into billions | 1:06:25 | 1:06:30 | |
of dollars, depend upon the votes of a very few people in one section, | 1:06:30 | 1:06:34 | |
we wouldn't build anything, nothing would be built. | 1:06:34 | 1:06:37 | |
There would be no highways, there would be no housing, | 1:06:37 | 1:06:40 | |
there would be no public improvements. | 1:06:40 | 1:06:42 | |
Please do not build this express highway. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:45 | |
Most of these people consider automobiles | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
more than the human being. | 1:06:47 | 1:06:48 | |
It is not right. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:50 | |
I think it's awful, I don't think it's fair. | 1:06:50 | 1:06:53 | |
I do not think it's very good. | 1:06:53 | 1:06:55 | |
Cos I live there, I look at my window, | 1:06:55 | 1:06:58 | |
the trucks, and cars and everything, they don't need an expressway. | 1:06:58 | 1:07:01 | |
What are they going to do? Throw me in the street? | 1:07:03 | 1:07:05 | |
After 51 years, I'm a citizen and everything. | 1:07:05 | 1:07:07 | |
It's something awful to think every day they are going to throw | 1:07:07 | 1:07:11 | |
you out. I think it's awful, they make a mistake. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:15 | |
I hope God has to be damn strict, that's what I hope. | 1:07:15 | 1:07:19 | |
Goodbye, and thank you. | 1:07:19 | 1:07:20 | |
There was going to be a defining hearing in which they would approve | 1:07:23 | 1:07:29 | |
the Expressway. And Jane said, "When they discuss this issue, | 1:07:29 | 1:07:33 | |
"I'm going to get up and I'm going to speak against it." | 1:07:33 | 1:07:36 | |
I went up to the microphone, I was very angry. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:40 | |
They weren't listening to us, they had made their decision, | 1:07:40 | 1:07:43 | |
that was clear. There were really only errand boys who had no power | 1:07:43 | 1:07:47 | |
to make decisions. | 1:07:47 | 1:07:49 | |
So, we had better let them take back a message. | 1:07:49 | 1:07:52 | |
We would never stand for this Expressway. | 1:07:52 | 1:07:55 | |
I intended just to climb up to their level and walk across the stage. | 1:07:55 | 1:08:01 | |
There was a steno typist who had a new machine. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:05 | |
She was frightened and she picked up her steno type machine | 1:08:06 | 1:08:11 | |
and clasped it to her bosom. | 1:08:11 | 1:08:13 | |
The tapes fell out of the machine | 1:08:13 | 1:08:16 | |
and ran across the floor like confetti. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:19 | |
People began tossing it in the air. | 1:08:19 | 1:08:22 | |
I knew it had to be brought to an end, so an inspiration struck me. | 1:08:22 | 1:08:27 | |
I said, "There is no hearing because the record is gone, | 1:08:27 | 1:08:32 | |
"and without a record there cannot be a hearing." | 1:08:32 | 1:08:34 | |
The Chief State person was saying, | 1:08:36 | 1:08:39 | |
"Arrest that woman, arrest that woman!" | 1:08:39 | 1:08:42 | |
As I went out, the police captain told me that I was arrested. | 1:08:42 | 1:08:47 | |
The police were very apologetic. | 1:08:50 | 1:08:52 | |
They knew who she was and what was going on. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:54 | |
She was charged with three felonies, | 1:08:57 | 1:08:59 | |
which is pretty rotten for what she did. | 1:08:59 | 1:09:02 | |
What did she do? She didn't hurt anybody. | 1:09:02 | 1:09:05 | |
She became the hero | 1:09:06 | 1:09:08 | |
and the politics did shift at that point. | 1:09:08 | 1:09:11 | |
The board of estimate in an executive session today | 1:09:11 | 1:09:15 | |
voted unanimously to turn down a | 1:09:15 | 1:09:16 | |
proposal for a Lower Manhattan Expressway. | 1:09:16 | 1:09:19 | |
The board... APPLAUSE | 1:09:19 | 1:09:22 | |
Please! | 1:09:22 | 1:09:23 | |
That was the decisive moment. | 1:09:31 | 1:09:33 | |
And Moses couldn't do anything, he was just a pure villain, | 1:09:33 | 1:09:36 | |
the politicians were villains. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:38 | |
At that point, it was clear that | 1:09:39 | 1:09:41 | |
no politician was going to get away with this. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
The Lower Manhattan Expressway | 1:09:46 | 1:09:48 | |
was really the beginning of the end for Robert Moses. | 1:09:48 | 1:09:51 | |
Robert Moses was finally squeezed out by Nelson Rockefeller who, | 1:09:54 | 1:09:59 | |
as governor of New York, | 1:09:59 | 1:10:00 | |
might have been the first public official | 1:10:00 | 1:10:03 | |
powerful enough to call his bluff. | 1:10:03 | 1:10:05 | |
Moses was famous for threatening to resign | 1:10:05 | 1:10:08 | |
when he was unhappy with something. | 1:10:08 | 1:10:09 | |
Rockefeller said at one point, "OK." | 1:10:09 | 1:10:11 | |
And Moses had no choice, he couldn't back down and he was gone. | 1:10:13 | 1:10:18 | |
After the Moses Expressway situation was finally settled, | 1:10:20 | 1:10:24 | |
Jane felt she could go to Canada | 1:10:24 | 1:10:25 | |
with her typewriter and become a writer again. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
Her husband, who was an architect, was building hospitals up there, | 1:10:28 | 1:10:32 | |
and their sons were there to keep out of that awful Vietnam War. | 1:10:32 | 1:10:36 | |
Of course, as soon as she got to Toronto, | 1:10:36 | 1:10:38 | |
she saw there was another Expressway heading right for her house, | 1:10:38 | 1:10:42 | |
the Spadina Expressway. | 1:10:42 | 1:10:44 | |
She stopped that too! | 1:10:44 | 1:10:46 | |
And then got to work. | 1:10:46 | 1:10:48 | |
The Lower Manhattan Expressway was officially dead in the year 1970. | 1:10:48 | 1:10:54 | |
Meanwhile, across the country, | 1:10:54 | 1:10:56 | |
these kinds of freeway revolts were taking place and similar roadways | 1:10:56 | 1:11:00 | |
were being defeated. | 1:11:00 | 1:11:03 | |
But the Lower Manhattan Expressway was really the leading example. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:06 | |
If that had happened, there would be no SoHo. | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
The entire history of development | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
and redevelopment and adaptive re-use | 1:11:14 | 1:11:17 | |
in the city would have played out in a different way. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:21 | |
It would have been the single most damaging intervention in the urban | 1:11:21 | 1:11:27 | |
fabric in Manhattan in the 20th-century. | 1:11:27 | 1:11:29 | |
Period. | 1:11:29 | 1:11:31 | |
A city is not just a physical object. | 1:11:43 | 1:11:45 | |
The city is a living thing. | 1:11:49 | 1:11:51 | |
It will always morph and change. | 1:11:52 | 1:11:55 | |
Our goal has to be to manage change well, not to freeze it in time. | 1:11:56 | 1:12:02 | |
As cities around the world are obliged to house this dramatically | 1:12:05 | 1:12:09 | |
increasing population, | 1:12:09 | 1:12:11 | |
we still have the conversation in terms of top-down versus bottom-up, | 1:12:11 | 1:12:17 | |
formality versus informality. | 1:12:17 | 1:12:19 | |
These are the eternal polarities of thinking about the city. | 1:12:19 | 1:12:22 | |
If you go to China, | 1:12:28 | 1:12:30 | |
you see huge swathes of farmland | 1:12:30 | 1:12:32 | |
that are now being urbanised in exactly | 1:12:32 | 1:12:35 | |
the model that America used in the 1950s, and we know that it failed. | 1:12:35 | 1:12:40 | |
China today is Moses on steroids, you know, | 1:12:43 | 1:12:46 | |
and the notion that Moses could not | 1:12:46 | 1:12:49 | |
have conceived of this extraordinary | 1:12:49 | 1:12:54 | |
scaling up of what it means to build. | 1:12:54 | 1:12:56 | |
In that sense, history has outdone him. | 1:12:59 | 1:13:01 | |
These isolated developments with hundreds of similar looking blocks | 1:13:04 | 1:13:09 | |
with no urbanism, no street. | 1:13:09 | 1:13:11 | |
Who can live in them? And how would you live in them? | 1:13:11 | 1:13:14 | |
What they are building today, I think... | 1:13:14 | 1:13:17 | |
..is the slums of the future. | 1:13:18 | 1:13:20 | |
And they are made in concrete, they are going to last at least 60 years. | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
We are condemning future generations to an absolute world without hope. | 1:13:27 | 1:13:32 | |
Given the scale of the problem we have, | 1:13:37 | 1:13:40 | |
that makes a completely different context | 1:13:40 | 1:13:44 | |
in which Jane Jacobs' ideas again, now, have a new incarnation. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:48 | |
With the amount of people who now need to live in cities, | 1:14:16 | 1:14:19 | |
you have to accept that you're going to need more density, | 1:14:19 | 1:14:23 | |
but a lot of densely built-up terrain... | 1:14:23 | 1:14:26 | |
..is not a city. | 1:14:27 | 1:14:29 | |
If one were to build a city, no matter how fast it is, | 1:14:33 | 1:14:37 | |
without building a great public realm, you don't have a city. | 1:14:37 | 1:14:41 | |
That's what Jane Jacobs talks about. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:43 | |
Historically, solutions to city problems | 1:14:43 | 1:14:47 | |
have very seldom come from the top. | 1:14:47 | 1:14:49 | |
They come from people who understand the problems first-hand because they | 1:14:52 | 1:14:56 | |
are living with them, and who have new and ingenious and often very | 1:14:56 | 1:15:02 | |
offbeat ideas of how to solve them. | 1:15:02 | 1:15:04 | |
The creativity and the concern and the ideas down there in city | 1:15:12 | 1:15:17 | |
neighbourhoods and city communities has to be given a chance, | 1:15:17 | 1:15:21 | |
has to be released, | 1:15:21 | 1:15:23 | |
people have to insist on government trying things their way. | 1:15:23 | 1:15:26 | |
If you gave people an environment that they could shape themselves, | 1:15:30 | 1:15:33 | |
they would not only be happier... | 1:15:33 | 1:15:35 | |
..but you would have a completely different kind of city. | 1:15:37 | 1:15:39 | |
The key thing about Jane Jacobs, | 1:15:43 | 1:15:45 | |
much more important than loving stoops and streets and stuff, | 1:15:45 | 1:15:49 | |
was a willingness to be sceptical. | 1:15:49 | 1:15:52 | |
A willingness to doubt the received wisdom. | 1:15:52 | 1:15:56 | |
And to trust our eyes instead. | 1:15:56 | 1:15:59 | |
Under the seeming disorder of the old city, | 1:16:07 | 1:16:11 | |
wherever the old city is working successfully... | 1:16:11 | 1:16:14 | |
..is a marvellous order for maintaining the safety of the street | 1:16:16 | 1:16:21 | |
and the freedom of the city. | 1:16:21 | 1:16:23 | |
It is a complex order. | 1:16:26 | 1:16:27 | |
This order is all composed of movement and change. | 1:16:30 | 1:16:33 | |
And although it is life, not art, | 1:16:34 | 1:16:37 | |
we may fancifully call it the art form of the city... | 1:16:37 | 1:16:40 | |
..and liken it to the dance. | 1:16:42 | 1:16:44 | |
Not to a simple-minded precision dance, | 1:16:44 | 1:16:48 | |
with everyone kicking up at the same time, | 1:16:48 | 1:16:51 | |
twirling in unison and bowing off en masse... | 1:16:51 | 1:16:54 | |
..but to an intricate ballet... | 1:16:55 | 1:16:57 | |
..in which the individual dancers | 1:16:58 | 1:17:00 | |
and ensembles all have distinctive parts... | 1:17:00 | 1:17:03 | |
..which miraculously reinforce each other... | 1:17:05 | 1:17:07 | |
..and compose an orderly whole. | 1:17:09 | 1:17:12 | |
Utopia - the better place. | 1:17:58 | 1:18:00 | |
Somewhere between fiction and reality. | 1:18:00 | 1:18:02 | |
The idea has exerted | 1:18:02 | 1:18:04 |