Russia: A Century of Suspicion A Timewatch Guide


Russia: A Century of Suspicion

Similar Content

Browse content similar to Russia: A Century of Suspicion. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Britain's relationship with Russia

0:00:040:00:07

has been marked by centuries of suspicion.

0:00:070:00:10

The British have always been afraid of the Russians.

0:00:120:00:15

In the last hundred years, they've been friend...

0:00:150:00:18

To the men of the Red Army.

0:00:180:00:20

..and foe.

0:00:200:00:22

This is how a war between the Soviet Union and the West would begin.

0:00:220:00:25

They've saved our skins

0:00:250:00:27

and terrified us with the thought of total annihilation.

0:00:270:00:31

'This will be the legacy of thermonuclear war.'

0:00:310:00:33

Britain would be in the bull's-eye of any Soviet attack.

0:00:330:00:37

At the outbreak of World War II, Winston Churchill famously

0:00:370:00:41

described Russia as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

0:00:410:00:47

These words have almost come to define

0:00:470:00:49

Britain's view of Russia ever since -

0:00:490:00:51

an inscrutable power that always plays by its own rules.

0:00:510:00:55

In this film I'm going to examine how television has reflected

0:00:550:00:59

our ever-changing relationship,

0:00:590:01:01

from the tensions of the Cold War to the excitement of glasnost.

0:01:010:01:05

The West in general was a little bit naive.

0:01:060:01:09

And the Russian people who've lived through it all.

0:01:090:01:13

This is how arguably Britain's most complex international relationship

0:01:140:01:18

has played out on television.

0:01:180:01:20

This is the Timewatch Guide to Russia.

0:01:200:01:23

October 1st, 1939, a month into World War II.

0:01:390:01:43

Winston Churchill pondered on Russia's next move.

0:01:430:01:46

Would they keep to their non-aggression pact

0:01:460:01:49

with Nazi Germany or join the Allies?

0:01:490:01:52

The Soviet Union refused to fight against Hitler

0:01:540:01:57

and instead attempted to annex parts of Europe for themselves.

0:01:570:02:01

Churchill was quick to denounce them.

0:02:030:02:06

'Everyone can see how communism

0:02:070:02:10

'rots the soul of a nation,

0:02:100:02:13

'how it makes it abject and hungry in peace

0:02:130:02:17

'and proves it base and abominable in war.'

0:02:170:02:21

When Hitler turned his attentions to attacking Russia,

0:02:220:02:25

they joined the Allies in the fight against fascism.

0:02:250:02:29

The Red oppressor now suddenly became

0:02:290:02:31

our trusted partner in battle.

0:02:310:02:33

Now, a very different Russia was presented to Britons.

0:02:330:02:37

Newsreel praised the war effort of our Russian comrades.

0:02:370:02:42

'It does us good to see our Russian comrades at work.

0:02:420:02:46

'They and we are members of the free world, fighting and working

0:02:460:02:49

'to make the better way of life in which no man shall be exploited

0:02:490:02:53

'and every one of us shall carry his head high.'

0:02:530:02:55

Britain publicly celebrated the Red Army's 25th anniversary.

0:02:570:03:02

In Glasgow, Tory MPs, under Soviet iconography,

0:03:020:03:07

praised the communist power.

0:03:070:03:09

We shall have one debt after this war

0:03:090:03:11

and that is our debt of gratitude to the men of the Red Army.

0:03:110:03:15

To our comrades,

0:03:150:03:17

our grand salute to the men of the Red Army.

0:03:170:03:21

This is the story that doesn't get told.

0:03:220:03:25

This footage, as far as I'm aware, hasn't really been used

0:03:250:03:28

or analysed by historians.

0:03:280:03:31

We often focus on Russia as the enemy.

0:03:310:03:33

So you had a shift and a very profound change in the rhetoric,

0:03:330:03:37

from...from the Red Menace

0:03:370:03:40

and from a revolution that actually some feared could happen in the UK,

0:03:400:03:44

to Uncle Joe, our friend,

0:03:440:03:47

he's the man who's going to stop German troops,

0:03:470:03:50

and an encouraging of a much softer view of the Soviet Union.

0:03:500:03:53

MACHINE-GUN FIRE

0:03:530:03:55

In May 1945, the Nazi war machine was finally destroyed.

0:03:560:04:01

From the ashes of the most savage global conflict in human history,

0:04:020:04:06

the USSR would now emerge as a superpower.

0:04:060:04:10

As Germany was divided among the Allies,

0:04:110:04:13

the old political and cultural confrontation between the forces

0:04:130:04:17

of capitalism and communism were almost instantly resumed.

0:04:170:04:21

Britain and Russia were firmly back on opposing sides

0:04:290:04:32

of the political fence, and, by the 1960s

0:04:320:04:35

one fear loomed largest in the Western public's imagination -

0:04:350:04:39

nuclear war.

0:04:390:04:41

With Soviet missiles discovered installed in Cuba

0:04:430:04:46

and the Russians' test detonation of the largest-ever hydrogen bomb,

0:04:460:04:50

television captured the national mood in Britain.

0:04:500:04:53

With The War Game, the film-makers showed us in graphic detail

0:04:570:05:01

where our escalating tensions with Russia could ultimately lead.

0:05:010:05:05

We're shown an unprepared Britain

0:05:060:05:08

facing a full-scale Russian nuclear attack.

0:05:080:05:11

'Time, 9:13am.'

0:05:130:05:16

SIREN

0:05:160:05:18

Hurry, inside the house!

0:05:200:05:22

Move! Come on, come on! Quick!

0:05:230:05:25

'This family couldn't afford to build themselves a refuge.

0:05:260:05:30

'This could be the way the last two minutes of peace in Britain

0:05:300:05:34

'would look.'

0:05:340:05:36

Get all the children!

0:05:360:05:38

'9:16am,

0:05:400:05:42

'a single-megaton nuclear missile overshoots Manston Airfield in Kent

0:05:420:05:46

'and air-bursts six miles from this position.

0:05:460:05:50

EXPLOSION

0:05:500:05:52

SCREAMING

0:05:530:05:55

'At this distance, the heatwave is sufficient

0:05:550:05:58

'to cause melting of the upturned eyeball,

0:05:580:06:00

'third-degree burning of the skin and ignition of furniture.'

0:06:000:06:04

SCREAMING

0:06:040:06:06

'12 seconds later, the shock front arrives.

0:06:090:06:13

SCREAMING

0:06:130:06:15

DEEP RUMBLING SOUND

0:06:160:06:18

'These are the inhabitants of what was once a housing estate

0:06:230:06:27

'near Rochester in Kent.

0:06:270:06:29

'Following the explosion of three single-megaton missiles

0:06:290:06:32

'within this one county boundary, it's been estimated

0:06:320:06:36

'that each surviving doctor

0:06:360:06:38

'would be faced by at least 350 casualties,

0:06:380:06:42

'many suffering from severe second and third-degree burns.

0:06:420:06:47

'These will be the other casualties of a nuclear war.

0:06:480:06:52

'Physically unmarked,

0:06:520:06:55

'there will almost inevitably be thousands of people suffering from

0:06:550:06:59

'many complex states of fear and shock due to the things they've seen

0:06:590:07:04

'and the things that have happened to them.

0:07:040:07:07

'Many of these people will probably lapse

0:07:080:07:11

'into a state of permanent neurosis.

0:07:110:07:13

'This too will be the legacy of thermonuclear war.'

0:07:140:07:20

WHIMPERING AND CRYING

0:07:200:07:22

While the programme-makers in 1965 regarded this

0:07:240:07:27

as a legitimate portrayal of what could happen in World War III,

0:07:270:07:31

the BBC, after pressure from the Government, did not.

0:07:310:07:35

The film was banned for 20 years.

0:07:350:07:38

For people in Britain, the Cold War really moves,

0:07:410:07:45

as one historian has said, from the head to the gut.

0:07:450:07:48

It's when you feel it viscerally.

0:07:480:07:51

And of course it's in the '60s

0:07:510:07:52

that we have a big campaign for nuclear disarmament,

0:07:520:07:56

a feeling that this is an issue now which is so important

0:07:560:07:59

that people have to take to the streets in order to stop the growth

0:07:590:08:03

of nuclear weapons and the possibility of nuclear annihilation.

0:08:030:08:07

The superpower stand-off that was the Cold War

0:08:080:08:11

would grind on for over four decades from 1947.

0:08:110:08:15

The 1970s brought a welcome detente

0:08:160:08:18

but, secretly, the arms race continued.

0:08:180:08:22

The fear that the Cold War could spiral out of control

0:08:230:08:26

and into a full-scale global conflict was played out on the BBC.

0:08:260:08:31

SIREN

0:08:310:08:33

'This is how a war between the Soviet Union and the West

0:08:330:08:37

'would begin.

0:08:370:08:38

'For over 30 years, there has been an uneasy peace in Europe,

0:08:410:08:45

'preserved by a balance of military power.

0:08:450:08:47

'Is that balance tilting dangerously in favour of the Soviet Union?'

0:08:470:08:51

The trends have been adverse to the West over the past 15 years.

0:08:510:08:55

There is no question but that there has been a massive shift

0:08:550:08:58

in relative military power.

0:08:580:09:00

In 1977's The Writing On The Wall, retired British Army officer

0:09:080:09:13

and politician Lord Chalfont travels to Germany's East-West border,

0:09:130:09:18

the symbol of a world now split into two hostile camps.

0:09:180:09:22

'The land border between East and West runs for nearly 1,000 miles

0:09:240:09:28

'through divided Germany - a network of electrified fences,

0:09:280:09:32

'barbed wire, mines and machine-gun posts.

0:09:320:09:35

'As soon as I appeared with the camera crew,

0:09:360:09:39

'an East German patrol arrived on the other side,

0:09:390:09:42

'intensely interested in what we were up to.

0:09:420:09:45

'This elaborate system of fences, with its vicious little weapons,

0:09:470:09:50

'it designed mainly, of course,

0:09:500:09:52

'to keep East Germans in East Germany.

0:09:520:09:54

'It has no military significance at all.'

0:09:540:09:57

Nonetheless, the film is still keen to point out

0:09:570:10:00

the possibility of Russian aggression.

0:10:000:10:03

'If the Russian tanks came down to the wire and the gates were opened,

0:10:040:10:07

'they'd sweep through into West Germany, and then the question is,

0:10:070:10:11

'could we stop them getting to the Rhine?'

0:10:110:10:14

We are deeply suspicious because we don't have a true insight

0:10:140:10:18

into what the Soviets are thinking.

0:10:180:10:20

Historians were saying well into the 20th century

0:10:200:10:24

that one of the best sources they could get out of the Soviet Union

0:10:240:10:27

was rumour, because they had no access to documents,

0:10:270:10:30

they had no access to the inner thoughts of the Soviet leadership.

0:10:300:10:34

A year later, the Cold War took off into outer space.

0:10:370:10:41

The British public had flocked to see the intergalactic battle

0:10:410:10:45

between good and evil, Star Wars.

0:10:450:10:47

Meanwhile, back on Earth, things also had a hint of sci-fi,

0:10:470:10:51

as the USA and USSR planned a new generation of space laser weapons.

0:10:510:10:57

Exploring public fears of what would soon be dubbed the Evil Empire

0:11:000:11:04

made for some terrific viewing.

0:11:040:11:07

'Nothing now remains ridiculous in contemplating the real war in space.

0:11:070:11:12

'Weapons that would have earned the derision of Buck Rogers himself

0:11:120:11:15

'are today being researched and tested in laboratories

0:11:150:11:18

'in Russia and America.

0:11:180:11:20

'If the high-energy laser can be compared to focusing the rays

0:11:200:11:23

'of the sun through a giant magnifying glass,

0:11:230:11:26

'the devastating new particle-beam weapon

0:11:260:11:28

'can be compared to harnessing and controlling bolts of lightning.

0:11:280:11:32

'These weapons are already in an advanced state of research.

0:11:400:11:44

'They would work by converting colossal amounts of energy

0:11:440:11:47

'into subatomic particles.

0:11:470:11:49

'These are then shot through the atmosphere in space in the form

0:11:490:11:53

'of a beam, and they're shot with such force and at such speed

0:11:530:11:56

'that the beam effectively disembowels its target.

0:11:560:12:00

'By destroying all known matter,

0:12:010:12:03

'the particle beam is today's ultimate space weapon.'

0:12:030:12:06

Throughout the Cold War years, a balanced view of Russia

0:12:090:12:12

was generally absent from our screens.

0:12:120:12:14

Part of the problem was lack of access,

0:12:140:12:17

but material that supported our fear of Russia did make for gripping TV.

0:12:170:12:22

EXPLOSION

0:12:220:12:24

In 1985, everything changed.

0:12:280:12:32

Russia's economy was in decline.

0:12:320:12:34

A new reformist leader, Mikhail Gorbachev,

0:12:340:12:38

headed the Communist Party and the USSR was beginning to crumble.

0:12:380:12:42

Finally, the BBC felt it was safe to show The War Game,

0:12:440:12:48

which now was beginning to look comfortingly like history.

0:12:480:12:52

What's happened by 1985 is that we've lived through

0:12:540:12:58

a period of peaceful coexistence.

0:12:580:13:01

We're a little bit more certain of how the Soviets will respond

0:13:010:13:05

to certain situations, how they will manage their nuclear arsenal,

0:13:050:13:09

and we're presuming that they are capable

0:13:090:13:13

and sensible enough not to use the bomb.

0:13:130:13:16

Those were certainties that Britain simply didn't have in the '60s.

0:13:160:13:20

The climate of opinion by the '80s is different.

0:13:210:13:25

I think there is more of a sense of reality television.

0:13:250:13:28

There are a number of films in the early '80s

0:13:280:13:31

about the consequences of nuclear war.

0:13:310:13:35

I think the BBC and the media is also more open to discussing

0:13:350:13:41

alternative views of what's going on.

0:13:410:13:44

When Gorbachev rose to become leader of the USSR, his policy of glasnost,

0:13:450:13:50

or openness, was meant to aid desperately needed economic reform.

0:13:500:13:54

But it also meant that Soviet archives

0:13:550:13:58

hiding years of the regime's abuses

0:13:580:14:00

were finally opened for both Russians and the world to see.

0:14:000:14:04

British documentary TV played a major role in revealing

0:14:050:14:08

the true horror of the Soviet regime.

0:14:080:14:11

In the summer of 1988, in an audacious step,

0:14:120:14:15

history exams for Russian schoolchildren were cancelled.

0:14:150:14:19

It was decreed that their textbooks were full of Stalinist cover-ups

0:14:190:14:23

and lies.

0:14:230:14:24

In the same year, back in Britain, Timewatch began to reveal

0:14:240:14:29

some of these horrors in Bukharin And The Terror,

0:14:290:14:32

showing the shocking disparity in the 1930s

0:14:320:14:35

between Stalin's public persona, created through propaganda,

0:14:350:14:39

and the reality of his barbarism.

0:14:390:14:42

'One child whose life was profoundly affected by the terror

0:14:430:14:47

'was Engelsina Markizova.

0:14:470:14:49

'Aged seven, she attended one of Stalin's meetings in 1936

0:14:490:14:54

'with her father, a minor party official from Serbia.'

0:14:540:14:58

-TRANSLATION:

-I felt awfully bored.

0:15:000:15:02

I was sitting there with a huge bunch of flowers, two of them.

0:15:020:15:06

Then I got fed up, and during one of the speeches I just got up

0:15:060:15:10

and started off towards the platform.

0:15:100:15:12

Stalin turned round and picked me up.

0:15:120:15:15

That's the moment they printed the photo of.

0:15:150:15:18

I thought I was the happiest girl in the whole country.

0:15:200:15:23

Because when I came downstairs to the hotel lobby the next day,

0:15:270:15:30

I saw that all the papers had my photo in them -

0:15:300:15:33

a little girl and Stalin.

0:15:330:15:35

And I was very proud of that.

0:15:360:15:38

I told everyone, you know, "That's my picture. It's me, it's me."

0:15:380:15:42

And people started to invite me to visit them,

0:15:440:15:47

people who lived in the hotel.

0:15:470:15:49

And they gave me all sorts of presents,

0:15:500:15:53

because I had become very, very famous.

0:15:530:15:56

'A sculpture of Engelsina

0:15:570:15:59

'entitled Thank You, Comrade Stalin, For My Happy Childhood

0:15:590:16:02

'was erected in Moscow.

0:16:020:16:05

'On December the 11th, 1937,

0:16:050:16:08

'Engelsina's father disappeared.'

0:16:080:16:11

-TRANSLATION:

-That was shattering, of course,

0:16:170:16:20

because after such a placid life

0:16:200:16:22

I suddenly found myself the daughter of an enemy of the people.

0:16:220:16:26

Naturally, we wrote Stalin a letter,

0:16:290:16:31

because we certainly didn't link my father's arrest with Stalin.

0:16:310:16:35

Well, the response to the letter we sent to Stalin...

0:16:350:16:38

that's to say I wrote it and my mother dictated it...

0:16:380:16:42

..was the arrest of my mother.

0:16:440:16:46

'Stalin's reputation remained divorced from the terror

0:16:490:16:52

'until after his death in 1953.

0:16:520:16:55

'Such was his effect on ordinary people

0:16:550:16:58

'that no-one realised what he had done.'

0:16:580:17:01

What happened in the Soviet Union is when you allowed people

0:17:020:17:05

to begin speaking openly

0:17:050:17:07

you had almost an overwhelming outburst of new material -

0:17:070:17:11

archives, film, photographs,

0:17:110:17:13

that characterised all... all throughout the late 1980s.

0:17:130:17:17

And then of course by 1990-91

0:17:170:17:19

there was a kind of floodgate of discussion

0:17:190:17:21

at the point where the regime is falling apart.

0:17:210:17:24

As the communist regime entered its death throes,

0:17:280:17:31

we were being presented with some of the most heinous acts

0:17:310:17:34

it had committed on its own citizens.

0:17:340:17:36

'During the 1930s and '40s, tens of millions of people

0:17:390:17:44

'from all over the Soviet Union were arrested as enemies of the people.

0:17:440:17:49

'They disappeared into the Gulag, a network of labour camps

0:17:510:17:55

'that stretched to every corner of the Soviet Union.

0:17:550:17:59

'They were accused of spying, sabotage and treachery.

0:18:030:18:07

'The vast majority were innocent.'

0:18:070:18:11

At these camps in Kolyma,

0:18:540:18:57

in the remote corner of the Russian Far East,

0:18:570:19:00

prisoners were forced to mine for gold.

0:19:000:19:03

Even for those who managed to survive the Gulag system

0:20:380:20:42

and return home, the nightmare didn't end.

0:20:420:20:45

The testimonies of camp survivors were horrifying to us in the West

0:21:290:21:34

but perhaps even more shocking to the Russians themselves.

0:21:340:21:38

This was the thing that undermined the system I think more than anything else.

0:21:380:21:42

It was this...the flood of history.

0:21:420:21:44

Suddenly people said, well, if it was, you know, so many people died

0:21:440:21:48

and so many people were killed by this system,

0:21:480:21:50

you know, why is it legitimate?

0:21:500:21:52

Television revealed the truth about Soviet history to a wide audience

0:21:540:21:59

but it's notable that even post-glasnost

0:21:590:22:02

TV didn't always provide a rounded picture of Russia.

0:22:020:22:05

When we look at how we have presented Russia

0:22:080:22:12

on British television,

0:22:120:22:14

we can see that the things we choose to tell and show

0:22:140:22:18

often reflect more on our own preconceptions of Russia.

0:22:180:22:22

They often celebrate those most bloody and brutal aspects

0:22:220:22:26

of Russian history.

0:22:260:22:27

Digging deeper into history a decade later,

0:22:290:22:32

details of perhaps the darkest chapter of Russia's past

0:22:320:22:36

were revealed.

0:22:360:22:38

In the West, World War II is often portrayed as being won

0:22:380:22:41

on the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima,

0:22:410:22:43

while Russia's enormous sacrifice

0:22:430:22:45

has almost been airbrushed from history.

0:22:450:22:48

In 2002, Timewatch attempted to redress the balance.

0:22:480:22:51

In the summer of 1941, the Nazi juggernaut surged across Russia

0:22:520:22:57

and one of Hitler's top targets was the city of Leningrad -

0:22:570:23:01

the former tsarist capital, renamed for the founder of the Soviet state.

0:23:010:23:07

Aiming to capture the city

0:23:070:23:09

before the onset of the unforgiving Russian winter,

0:23:090:23:12

the first German artillery shell hit as September began.

0:23:120:23:16

But Stalin was as determined to defend Leningrad

0:23:160:23:19

as Hitler was to raze it to the ground.

0:23:190:23:22

The ensuing stand-off between the Wehrmacht and the Red Army

0:23:220:23:26

would last for nearly 900 days.

0:23:260:23:29

Caught in the middle, frozen and starved,

0:23:290:23:32

three million civilians.

0:23:320:23:34

-TRANSLATION:

-It's impossible to communicate that feeling of hunger.

0:23:380:23:42

It's the most terrible thing in the world.

0:23:440:23:46

You have the feeling that some sort of animal has climbed inside you.

0:23:460:23:52

Some savage beast.

0:23:520:23:54

And he's scratching you, gouging you with his claws,

0:23:540:23:57

tearing your insides, ripping everything.

0:23:570:24:01

He demands bread, bread.

0:24:020:24:04

Demands food. Demands to be fed.

0:24:040:24:08

'The temperature dropped to -30 degrees Celsius.

0:24:100:24:14

'The city had no more fuel, electricity

0:24:140:24:17

'or running water.

0:24:170:24:19

'With no strength to bury their dead in the frozen ground,

0:24:240:24:27

'bodies were left to lie in the streets.'

0:24:270:24:30

As the Red Army troops fought bravely to defend their city,

0:24:340:24:38

the lives of her people were reduced to unimaginable brutality.

0:24:380:24:43

What was also even more sinister taking place

0:24:450:24:49

was that murder for human meat

0:24:490:24:51

was...was occurring.

0:24:510:24:54

That there were cases of people who were simply waylaying others,

0:24:540:25:00

particularly children, because after all their meat would be tender,

0:25:000:25:05

and they were killing people for... for meat.

0:25:050:25:10

Stalin achieved his goal.

0:25:110:25:14

Leningrad was saved, but only at the cost

0:25:140:25:17

of what's estimated to be over one million lives.

0:25:170:25:21

More Russians died in the siege than the combined number

0:25:210:25:25

of Britons and Americans in the entire Second World War.

0:25:250:25:29

The siege of Leningrad, which was a spectacular, appalling disaster,

0:25:290:25:34

I mean, in which people resorted to cannibalism and eating rats

0:25:340:25:39

and chewing on floorboards, is not very well known in this country

0:25:390:25:44

and, of course, it wasn't the only such event

0:25:440:25:47

in the eastern half of the continent but it does show you what...

0:25:470:25:51

the level of suffering being something that actually in Britain was unknown.

0:25:510:25:56

This is a city that's still... it's proud of what it had done,

0:25:560:25:59

but still, in a sense, unable to speak about it.

0:25:590:26:03

Perhaps because the amount of suffering

0:26:030:26:06

is just too impossible to talk about.

0:26:060:26:09

It's on an astronomic scale.

0:26:090:26:11

Certainly nothing that we can comprehend properly

0:26:110:26:14

from our war experience.

0:26:140:26:17

Stretching right back to Ivan the Terrible in the 16th century,

0:26:200:26:24

Russia has time and again found itself under the control

0:26:240:26:28

of the autocratic strongman who dominates his era.

0:26:280:26:32

In the 20th century, British documentary television

0:26:340:26:38

has found its powerful figures endlessly intriguing.

0:26:380:26:41

Russian leaders have built up powerful personality cults

0:26:420:26:46

and we rely on historians and film-makers

0:26:460:26:49

to strip away the artifice.

0:26:490:26:51

In 1997, 80 years after he seized power in the October Revolution,

0:26:510:26:56

Timewatch took on the myth

0:26:560:26:58

surrounding the first communist leader - Lenin.

0:26:580:27:01

BELL CHIMES

0:27:010:27:03

Before glasnost, some on the British left had admired the ideology

0:27:060:27:10

of Lenin, but with newly released documentation, Timewatch revealed

0:27:100:27:15

the Bolshevik Party leader was not all that he seemed.

0:27:150:27:19

'Once they held mass rallies in Red Square.

0:27:200:27:23

'Today, Russia's Communist Party

0:27:270:27:30

'can muster only a few hundred old diehards.

0:27:300:27:33

'The polished-granite mausoleum behind them holds the mortal remains

0:27:370:27:41

'of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

0:27:410:27:43

'In the Soviet era, his image was preserved and embalmed

0:27:500:27:54

'with the same reverence as his body.

0:27:540:27:57

'The man who founded the perfect socialist society

0:28:020:28:06

'had to be depicted as perfect himself.

0:28:060:28:09

'That man represented a whole epoch.

0:28:100:28:13

'Everything that has been created and is being created

0:28:130:28:16

'in our Soviet land is connected with his name, with his plans.'

0:28:160:28:20

'In today's Russia, Lenin is becoming an unperson.

0:28:240:28:28

'His statue, which once had pride of place in the Kremlin,

0:28:280:28:31

'has been banished to a remote corner of the Gorki estate.

0:28:310:28:34

'Communists no longer have the power to shape history

0:28:360:28:39

'to suit the party line.

0:28:390:28:41

'In recent years, facts about Lenin long forgotten, long suppressed,

0:28:410:28:45

'have been coming to light.

0:28:450:28:47

'Until the collapse of communism, they lay buried here

0:28:480:28:51

'in the central party archives.

0:28:510:28:54

'Only a handful of trusted party historians were allowed access

0:28:540:28:58

'to Lenin's secret files.

0:28:580:29:00

'The secret archives have revealed a crueller and more violent side

0:29:080:29:13

'to Lenin's character.

0:29:130:29:15

-TRANSLATION:

-We know of several documented examples of this.

0:29:210:29:24

Some of these show that in the summer of 1918 in Nizhny Novgorod,

0:29:240:29:29

Lenin gave orders to hang a hundred kulaks in public

0:29:290:29:32

in order to force others to hand over their grain to the state.

0:29:320:29:36

"Hang no fewer than a hundred well-known rich peasants.

0:29:370:29:40

"Make sure that the hangings take place in full view of the people."

0:29:400:29:44

-TRANSLATION:

-Some people in our country have revised their judgment

0:29:450:29:49

of Lenin solely on the basis of new documents

0:29:490:29:52

which illustrate his brutality.

0:29:520:29:54

For example, his orders to hang and shoot people

0:29:550:29:58

and his statements that civilians should precede Red Army soldiers

0:29:580:30:02

when they went on the attack.

0:30:020:30:04

The respect that he'd been held in, at least on the left,

0:30:040:30:07

certainly on the far left, in Britain,

0:30:070:30:11

erm, even there it began to dissolve.

0:30:110:30:14

What we see with Lenin's secret files

0:30:140:30:17

are the fact that he was more than willing to order the execution

0:30:170:30:22

of his enemies, of his opponents, of those that opposed

0:30:220:30:25

the Russian revolution, or those that were simply holding it up.

0:30:250:30:29

We often think of the most brutal elements of the Soviet Union

0:30:290:30:33

as being the responsibility of Stalin.

0:30:330:30:36

Well, in some ways, Stalin had a good teacher when it came to Lenin.

0:30:360:30:40

In 1924, Lenin died.

0:30:410:30:44

Both Russia and the West expected him to be succeeded

0:30:450:30:48

by his right-hand man Leon Trotsky.

0:30:480:30:51

But the ill-educated and boorish general secretary of the party,

0:30:510:30:55

Joseph Stalin, schemed his way to the top.

0:30:550:30:59

In power, Stalin became a god-like figure.

0:31:010:31:04

A protector and a punisher.

0:31:040:31:06

The all-seeing, omnipresent, supreme being.

0:31:060:31:09

It seemed as though no thought or deed of a Russian

0:31:090:31:12

was beyond his control.

0:31:120:31:14

Although we needed him in World War II,

0:31:150:31:18

Stalin was a hate figure for many in the West.

0:31:180:31:21

But we were also fascinated by him.

0:31:210:31:24

It was only after glasnost, when witnesses began to speak up,

0:31:240:31:28

that Timewatch could reveal the hidden details

0:31:280:31:31

of his true contempt for even his most loyal subjects.

0:31:310:31:34

After the Red Army and ordinary citizens drove back the Nazis

0:31:340:31:38

in the siege of Leningrad,

0:31:380:31:40

Stalin feared he was losing his grip on the city.

0:31:400:31:43

As the loyal Leningraders prepared to take part

0:31:430:31:46

in his 70th-birthday celebrations, Stalin struck.

0:31:460:31:50

'On the basis of a series of bizarre allegations,

0:31:510:31:55

'most of the Leningrad party organisation,

0:31:550:31:57

'including their wives, parents and children, were arrested

0:31:570:32:01

'in what became known as the Leningrad Affair.

0:32:010:32:05

One by one, the heroes of the Leningrad siege,

0:32:060:32:10

from military leaders to party members,

0:32:100:32:12

were arrested, tortured, accused of treason

0:32:120:32:16

and either exiled

0:32:160:32:18

or executed.

0:32:180:32:20

'Even today, some of the truth about what happened

0:32:220:32:26

'is still hidden in the Russian archives.

0:32:260:32:28

'A number of the documents relating to the Leningrad Affair

0:32:290:32:33

'and Stalin's involvement in it

0:32:330:32:35

'are still classified.

0:32:350:32:37

'Lev Voznesensky is one of the few people who have been allowed

0:32:380:32:42

'behind the locked doors of the archive to study these documents.

0:32:420:32:46

'He was able to copy some of them by hand.'

0:32:460:32:49

-TRANSLATION:

-Comrade Stalin didn't always give orders

0:32:530:32:56

in the form of clear directives.

0:32:560:32:59

I don't think it was accidental.

0:32:590:33:01

It's what a person does

0:33:010:33:04

if he doesn't want to leave any clear tracks.

0:33:040:33:07

Stalin directly managed the Leningrad Affair.

0:33:130:33:16

When you become familiar with these documents,

0:33:160:33:19

you'll recognise the symbols Stalin used.

0:33:190:33:22

A little cross by a surname or an underlined phrase.

0:33:220:33:25

They show the full agreement of comrade Stalin,

0:33:250:33:28

whom he wants to be arrested, whom he wants to be tried.

0:33:280:33:31

Until his death, Stalin's grip on the Russian people never faltered.

0:33:320:33:37

In the 1940s, there was the so-called cult of personality

0:33:390:33:43

everywhere in the Soviet Union.

0:33:430:33:45

There were photographs of Stalin in every office building,

0:33:450:33:49

Stalin's birthday was celebrated with great fanfare,

0:33:490:33:52

there were clubs of children who were taught to sing songs

0:33:520:33:56

in praises of Stalin, Stalin's name was in all the history books.

0:33:560:34:01

You would have had trouble getting through the day, probably,

0:34:010:34:04

without hearing his name or seeing his picture.

0:34:040:34:07

So his presence was all-pervasive

0:34:070:34:09

and this had a very deep effect on people.

0:34:090:34:11

Some people did love him or feel that he somehow symbolised

0:34:110:34:15

their nation and some people were simply very, very afraid of him.

0:34:150:34:18

It wasn't just Stalin's persona that was so powerful

0:34:200:34:23

and shrouded in mystery,

0:34:230:34:25

but also his relationships with his inner circle.

0:34:250:34:28

In 2005, Timewatch and the historian Simon Sebag Montefiore

0:34:280:34:34

found new evidence that allowed them to make a rather unusual docudrama.

0:34:340:34:38

This was an investigation of a conspiracy theory

0:34:380:34:42

in which Stalin, for once, played the victim.

0:34:420:34:45

'The dictator Joseph Stalin,

0:34:470:34:49

'who's already killed 30 million Soviet citizens,

0:34:490:34:52

'suddenly falls into a coma.

0:34:520:34:55

'Those surrounding his bed each have a motive to want him dead.

0:34:560:35:00

'Svetlana, his estranged daughter.

0:35:010:35:04

'Vasily, his unbalanced, alcoholic son.

0:35:080:35:11

'Vyacheslav Molotov,

0:35:140:35:16

'Stalin's most trusted accomplice.

0:35:160:35:19

'Nikita Khrushchev, Stalin's fool.

0:35:200:35:23

'And Lavrentiy Beria,

0:35:270:35:30

'the secret policeman.

0:35:300:35:32

'New evidence suggests that someone in this room may have killed Stalin.

0:35:340:35:39

'Tonight we set out to find out who.'

0:35:390:35:42

In an Agatha Christie-style whodunnit,

0:35:430:35:46

Sebag Montefiore pulls together evidence to paint a picture

0:35:460:35:50

of exactly what happened at Stalin's deathbed

0:35:500:35:53

and enjoys revealing possible evidence of foul play

0:35:530:35:57

in hidden medical records.

0:35:570:35:59

'The archive now further raises the prospect of murder,

0:36:020:36:05

'undermining the idea that Stalin's illness was solely caused,

0:36:050:36:09

'as officially related, by a haemorrhage in the brain.'

0:36:090:36:13

5th of March, it's now midday in the dacha.

0:36:140:36:17

Around the bed, everyone's watching. There's quiet.

0:36:170:36:20

HE COUGHS

0:36:200:36:22

And suddenly, Stalin wretches

0:36:220:36:25

and then vomits blood.

0:36:250:36:27

And this is terribly significant. We knew nothing of this before.

0:36:270:36:31

Why was his stomach suddenly bleeding so heavily?

0:36:310:36:34

And the answer could well be that he had received some sort of poison

0:36:340:36:39

which caused his stomach to bleed.

0:36:390:36:41

'So could this be the result of poison administered earlier

0:36:410:36:46

'by the bodyguard on Beria's orders?

0:36:460:36:49

'The idea that the vomiting of blood was caused by poison

0:36:520:36:55

'gains greater weight when Simon looks at the version

0:36:550:36:58

'in the Soviet press.'

0:36:580:37:00

We're looking here at Pravda on the 6th of March,

0:37:030:37:06

the announcement of Stalin's death the next day, the next morning,

0:37:060:37:10

and one finds no mention whatsoever of stomach haemorrhaging.

0:37:100:37:14

No blood in the stomach, no vomiting of blood.

0:37:140:37:17

So what has happened between the public announcement

0:37:170:37:21

of Stalin's death and the conclusion of the doctors just hours earlier?

0:37:210:37:25

Well, someone has decided, and clearly it's Beria,

0:37:250:37:28

to drop this rather significant information

0:37:280:37:31

about the haemorrhaging of blood into Stalin's stomach. Why?

0:37:310:37:35

'At 9:50pm, March the 5th, Stalin was finally dying.

0:37:350:37:40

'Svetlana described his last act.'

0:37:410:37:44

Suddenly he lifted his hand as though he were pointing up above

0:37:460:37:51

and bringing down a curse on us all.

0:37:510:37:53

The gesture was full of menace.

0:37:530:37:56

'Vasily shouted...

0:38:050:38:07

'.."The bastards have murdered Father." '

0:38:080:38:11

Then came Beria's voice, the hint of triumph concealed.

0:38:120:38:16

"My car!"

0:38:190:38:20

And Svetlana's belief that Beria had secretly assassinated her father

0:38:210:38:26

is supported by one more compelling piece of evidence.

0:38:260:38:30

At Stalin's funeral, he whispered to Molotov and he said,

0:38:310:38:37

"I did you all a favour. I did him in."

0:38:370:38:40

But Sebag Montefiore remains unconvinced by the theory.

0:38:410:38:45

The stomach haemorrhage and the vomiting of blood could just be

0:38:470:38:51

the result of a sick old body packing up,

0:38:510:38:54

partly because he mistrusted medical advice.

0:38:540:38:57

And the leadership may have deleted these details

0:38:570:39:00

from the public announcement because Stalin's system of government

0:39:000:39:04

meant they were understandably frightened

0:39:040:39:07

of arousing any suspicion.

0:39:070:39:09

Every suspicious circumstance was the result of the terror

0:39:100:39:13

that Stalin himself inspired.

0:39:130:39:16

Alone and dying, it may be that people were simply too afraid

0:39:160:39:20

to come to his aid.

0:39:200:39:22

So if I had to point the finger at someone,

0:39:220:39:25

then I think, ironically,

0:39:250:39:28

I'd point the finger at Stalin himself.

0:39:280:39:31

Even decades after his death,

0:39:320:39:34

the horrific figure of Stalin still haunts our perception of Russia.

0:39:340:39:38

With Lenin and Stalin the towering titans of the early 20th century,

0:39:390:39:44

we could only investigate their political intrigues in retrospect.

0:39:440:39:47

But at the end of the 20th century, a new leader emerged,

0:39:470:39:51

and this time, through film-makers,

0:39:510:39:53

we've been able to watch his rise to power.

0:39:530:39:56

Back in 2001, BBC Correspondent was asking, who is Putin?

0:39:570:40:03

'As the new millennium starts,

0:40:040:40:06

'Russia, like the United States, has a new president.

0:40:060:40:09

'Vladimir Putin has been in charge for a year but he's still an enigma.

0:40:120:40:17

'A decade since the Cold War,

0:40:200:40:22

'should we fear new superpower confrontations?

0:40:220:40:26

'What has shaped this former spy and Kremlin bureaucrat?

0:40:290:40:34

'Where is this man taking Russia?

0:40:370:40:40

'Not long after his inauguration, he presided over a Red Square parade -

0:40:410:40:45

'the 55th anniversary of the end of the Second World War.

0:40:450:40:49

'The massive military display astonished Moscow.

0:40:530:40:57

'It was like being back in the Soviet Union.

0:40:570:41:00

'And Putin's speech was an unapologetic celebration

0:41:010:41:04

'of Soviet victories.'

0:41:040:41:06

-ALL:

-Ura!

0:41:390:41:43

'Words of enormous resonance for a nation whose international prestige

0:41:440:41:48

'had plummeted.'

0:41:480:41:50

Putin started as a...a reformer,

0:41:510:41:55

a nationalist reformer.

0:41:550:41:58

Erm, he's now often painted as a sort of second Hitler

0:41:580:42:03

or something like that, or with those kind of pretensions.

0:42:030:42:07

What we don't really understand, I think, and we've missed

0:42:070:42:10

is the sense of deep grievance in Russia

0:42:100:42:13

about the way that things have gone since the end of the Cold War.

0:42:130:42:18

Seven years later,

0:42:190:42:21

and after a series of high-profile assassinations of his critics...

0:42:210:42:24

I looked into Mr Putin's eyes and I saw three letters -

0:42:240:42:27

a K, a G and a B.

0:42:270:42:29

..Britain knew all too well who Putin was

0:42:290:42:32

and we were beginning to fear him like the Soviet leaders of old.

0:42:320:42:35

Panorama tried to get a grip on why Russians

0:42:360:42:39

would voluntarily support him.

0:42:390:42:42

'Oscar-winning director Nikita Mikhalkov

0:42:490:42:52

'is the most powerful man in Russia's film industry.

0:42:520:42:55

'He's also close to Vladimir Putin.

0:42:550:42:58

'He's in no doubt why his friend is so popular.'

0:42:580:43:01

-TRANSLATION:

-Because he answers questions.

0:43:030:43:06

Because he does not drink.

0:43:060:43:08

Because he looks good.

0:43:080:43:10

Because it is clear what he stands for.

0:43:100:43:13

Because he does not hide from problems.

0:43:140:43:17

You ask why do people like Putin.

0:43:170:43:20

Because he has given Russia her dignity back.

0:43:200:43:23

'But it's not just Putin's friends in high places

0:43:260:43:29

'who think a firm hand's needed.

0:43:290:43:31

'The wealth is starting to trickle down to a new middle class

0:43:310:43:35

'who shop at places like GUM, Moscow's answer to Harrods.

0:43:350:43:38

'They too love Putin.'

0:43:380:43:40

-TRANSLATION:

-We are not as civilised as we would like to be,

0:43:410:43:45

which is why we have pretty hard leaders.

0:43:450:43:47

For now there's no other way to rule us.

0:43:470:43:50

And maybe with us Russians you need to be tough.

0:43:500:43:52

'And no wonder, after the 1990s,

0:43:520:43:55

'Russia was reeling from financial and social chaos.

0:43:550:43:59

'Meanwhile, President Boris Yeltsin often appeared less than in control.

0:44:000:44:06

'The once-feared superpower was bankrupt and on its knees.

0:44:070:44:11

'Crime was rampant and contract hits common.'

0:44:110:44:14

-TRANSLATION:

-Putin is not so much a cause of something

0:44:190:44:22

but the product of a reaction to the national humiliation

0:44:220:44:26

and collapse and degradation that we saw here in the 1990s.

0:44:260:44:31

The country woke up again when Putin came.

0:44:350:44:38

It stopped washing its dirty linen abroad, telling everyone

0:44:380:44:41

how sick, drunk and incapable of a normal existence we are.

0:44:410:44:45

Putin gave us our nation back.

0:44:450:44:47

'So, that's the popular view in the capital.

0:44:500:44:52

'But Moscow is not Russia, the locals like to say.

0:44:560:45:00

'A hundred miles away, things look very different.

0:45:060:45:09

'But even here, where life is a struggle,

0:45:090:45:12

'it's not hard to find fans of Vladimir Putin.

0:45:120:45:15

'Take Larissa and her parents.

0:45:170:45:19

'She earns £250 a month and their pension is only £80 each.

0:45:190:45:24

'Capitalism has not been good to them.

0:45:240:45:27

'Mention Putin's name, however, and you will hear only praise.'

0:45:270:45:32

-TRANSLATION:

-Under Putin, of course things have become better.

0:45:320:45:35

'Before Putin became Prime Minister,

0:45:380:45:40

'most Russians wanted him to stay on as President.

0:45:400:45:43

'What do you think?'

0:45:430:45:45

-TRANSLATION:

-Of course it would have been better for him to stay

0:45:470:45:50

because during his time we saw no suffering.

0:45:500:45:54

Now, they pay our pensions and even raise them.

0:45:540:45:58

I think that we often look at Russians as somehow duped people,

0:45:580:46:02

that they've just naively accepted Putin's control

0:46:020:46:06

and that they don't know what's going on.

0:46:060:46:09

I think that's a dangerous perception to cultivate in Britain.

0:46:090:46:13

There's genuine opposition to Putin, there's genuine concern to Putin,

0:46:130:46:17

there's genuine support for Putin and there's everything in between.

0:46:170:46:21

It's also important not to forget that the democracy promised

0:46:230:46:27

in the glasnost era never quite materialised.

0:46:270:46:31

We often talk about Putin's poll numbers

0:46:330:46:36

but we don't talk about how one gets poll numbers.

0:46:360:46:39

Often these are phone calls and you will pick up the phone,

0:46:390:46:43

you'll be asked, what do you think of President Putin?

0:46:430:46:46

Well, if I were a Russian, I would think,

0:46:460:46:48

who's on the end of the line?

0:46:480:46:50

So I think sometimes the way that we present these things

0:46:500:46:53

is a little bit, erm, skewed.

0:46:530:46:56

Film-makers have captured the power games of the Cold War,

0:47:000:47:04

revealed the hidden horrors of Soviet rule

0:47:040:47:07

and explored the personas of Russia's leaders.

0:47:070:47:10

But when it comes to the Russian people,

0:47:100:47:13

their portrayal on TV has often been obscured by limited access

0:47:130:47:17

and the shadow of big history.

0:47:170:47:19

In 1975, programme-makers found it hard to separate Russians

0:47:190:47:23

from the regime they lived under.

0:47:230:47:26

In KGB - The Soviet Secret Police,

0:47:260:47:29

we're presented with an Orwellian nightmare version of Russia.

0:47:290:47:33

A society in which no-one can be trusted.

0:47:330:47:36

'From their earliest schooldays, children are instilled with

0:47:370:47:41

'the concept that loyalty to the state is the highest virtue

0:47:410:47:44

'and talebearers, far from being discouraged,

0:47:440:47:47

'are treated like little heroes.'

0:47:470:47:50

I would say that we are expected

0:47:500:47:53

to inform on our classmates.

0:47:530:47:56

'As a little girl, Alla Rusinek had a conventional Soviet education.

0:47:570:48:01

'She recently emigrated to Israel.'

0:48:010:48:03

Probably this was the result of the education.

0:48:030:48:07

And our heroes...

0:48:080:48:10

were Young Pioneers...

0:48:100:48:13

..who reported on their parents.

0:48:140:48:17

The famous hero

0:48:170:48:20

was Pavlik Morozov,

0:48:200:48:23

who reported his father

0:48:230:48:26

to the authorities

0:48:260:48:29

and his father then killed him for this.

0:48:290:48:32

So we were expected

0:48:330:48:36

to behave the same way.

0:48:360:48:38

This idea that they were willing to denounce their parents

0:48:390:48:44

or that there was a culture or a society

0:48:440:48:46

that was developing along those lines

0:48:460:48:49

was another example of otherness, of alienness.

0:48:490:48:54

'In recent years, there has been a calculated effort to improve

0:48:560:49:00

'the image of the KGB with the man in the street.

0:49:000:49:02

'To eradicate the nightmare memories

0:49:020:49:05

'of the secret police of Stalin's time,

0:49:050:49:07

'which subjected the entire country to 30 years

0:49:070:49:10

'of unrestrained lawlessness and terror.

0:49:100:49:13

'And for the ordinary Russian today,

0:49:140:49:16

'the KGB is synonymous with authority.

0:49:160:49:19

'This is what makes the KGB unique

0:49:190:49:21

'among the intelligence services of the world

0:49:210:49:24

'and makes it so powerful as a secret police organisation,

0:49:240:49:27

'for the Soviet citizen has to rely upon authority

0:49:270:49:31

'for almost everything in his life.

0:49:310:49:34

'For a start, his freedom of movement

0:49:340:49:36

'is controlled and kept in check through a complicated system

0:49:360:49:40

'of documentation and registration.

0:49:400:49:42

'The most important document is the internal passport.

0:49:420:49:46

'Everyone over the age of 16 is issued with one of these.

0:49:460:49:49

'He must produce it to the police on request

0:49:490:49:52

'and is meant to register with the authorities

0:49:520:49:55

'if he moves anywhere inside the Soviet Union or stays at a hotel.

0:49:550:49:59

'It does not entitle him to travel abroad.

0:49:590:50:01

'In addition, every citizen is registered in a house book,

0:50:040:50:07

'kept by the caretaker of the block of flats where he lives.

0:50:070:50:10

'If he is away for any length of time or has foreign visitors

0:50:100:50:14

'or behaves suspiciously in any way,

0:50:140:50:16

'this may be entered in the book or reported to the KGB.'

0:50:160:50:19

But with glasnost, it seemed that we would finally be able to build

0:50:200:50:25

a relationship and an understanding with Russia's people.

0:50:250:50:29

As the 1990s dawned, for the first time we could hear a cacophony

0:50:300:50:34

of Russian voices speaking out against the system.

0:50:340:50:37

RUSSIAN CHORAL SINGING

0:50:380:50:40

Welcome to this live programme from Moscow.

0:50:490:50:53

It's the fifth anniversary of the week in which Mikhail Gorbachev

0:50:530:50:57

became leader of the Soviet Union.

0:50:570:50:59

Here in Russia, where more than half the Soviet people live,

0:50:590:51:02

it's been election day today.

0:51:020:51:04

The first chance that they've had to choose the individuals

0:51:040:51:07

that they want to represent them in local and regional government

0:51:070:51:11

and in the Russian parliament itself.

0:51:110:51:14

There was a huge amount of hope in the West about Russia.

0:51:140:51:17

There was a hope that the Soviet Union would evolve into something,

0:51:170:51:21

erm, if not like us, then friendlier to us.

0:51:210:51:25

This would have been inconceivable five, four, even three years ago.

0:51:290:51:34

Individual Soviet citizens holding court in the street,

0:51:340:51:37

crowding round you in animated argument

0:51:370:51:40

about the state of the nation.

0:51:400:51:42

They debate glasnost and perestroika,

0:51:430:51:46

communism and the free market.

0:51:460:51:48

They argue about the demise of the party, ethnic conflict

0:51:480:51:51

and even the collapse of the Soviet Union.

0:51:510:51:54

THEY SPEAK RUSSIAN

0:51:540:51:56

After a long history in which silence has been imposed upon them,

0:51:580:52:01

it is still remarkable for the outsider to witness at first hand

0:52:010:52:05

the awakening of the Russian people.

0:52:050:52:08

No fears, no inhibitions, just the outpouring

0:52:080:52:11

of long-suppressed feelings and opinions.

0:52:110:52:14

If promising to listen and learn is a new experience for him,

0:52:210:52:25

it is no less remarkable for his audience.

0:52:250:52:28

And this is a new experience for everyone?

0:52:500:52:53

TRANSLATOR SPEAKS

0:52:530:52:56

Can any of you imagine voting one day for another party?

0:53:070:53:12

The kind of conversations that were seen on that film

0:53:200:53:24

of people on the streets talking openly about society

0:53:240:53:27

and change and so on, erm...

0:53:270:53:30

I think in Britain and in the West generally

0:53:300:53:34

there was a tendency to say, oh, great, finally they've seen sense,

0:53:340:53:38

they're going our way, they're going to become like us.

0:53:380:53:42

There's a sense that this could lead to genuine debate,

0:53:420:53:45

to something more akin to democracy.

0:53:450:53:48

Erm, I think also...Britain was also a little bit naive.

0:53:480:53:51

The West in general was a little bit naive.

0:53:510:53:54

This new age of optimism was not to last.

0:53:550:53:58

In the 1990s, Russia plunged into economic meltdown.

0:53:580:54:03

When she rose again a decade later, in the Putin era,

0:54:030:54:07

many in the West felt disturbed.

0:54:070:54:09

Russia now seemed alien and threatening yet again.

0:54:090:54:13

In the 21st century, we're now being presented with

0:54:140:54:17

a new type of Russian we haven't seen before.

0:54:170:54:20

The super-rich.

0:54:200:54:22

In 2008, Panorama squeezed into an exclusive Moscow party

0:54:230:54:28

celebrating the launch of the first Russian edition

0:54:280:54:31

of the society magazine Tatler.

0:54:310:54:34

Now joining those Western standards Hello and Vogue

0:54:350:54:38

on the Russian newsstands.

0:54:380:54:40

I have a feeling that almost all the country changed.

0:54:420:54:45

When I look at my first issues, I think, oh, my God,

0:54:450:54:48

this was the magazine done and tailor-made for a different country.

0:54:480:54:52

This was a Russia that had embraced capitalism with a vengeance.

0:54:520:54:57

In Britain, we're looking at the excesses of Russian capitalism

0:54:590:55:03

and almost turning our nose up,

0:55:030:55:05

almost thinking, oh, they might have money but they don't have class.

0:55:050:55:09

And there's a danger in that view.

0:55:090:55:11

There's a danger that we are not presenting the Russians fairly

0:55:110:55:17

and it's not to say that Russian capitalism is a pleasant thing,

0:55:170:55:21

it's not to say that rich oligarchs are particular nice people,

0:55:210:55:25

but there's also something unpleasant sometimes

0:55:250:55:28

around the way that the British media presents that.

0:55:280:55:31

And behind the glitz and glamour, another story was playing out.

0:55:330:55:37

When this programme was made in 2008,

0:55:370:55:40

Russian tanks had just rolled into neighbouring Georgia.

0:55:400:55:44

While the Russians felt besieged,

0:55:440:55:46

the West viewed them as provocatively aggressive.

0:55:460:55:50

'At events like this,

0:55:500:55:52

'the Russia of today looks more like the West than ever.

0:55:520:55:55

'These people are educated, sophisticated and travel abroad,

0:55:550:55:59

'but scratch the surface and, even here,

0:55:590:56:01

'people say we don't understand them.

0:56:010:56:04

'And nowhere more so than over the recent invasion of Georgia.

0:56:040:56:08

'Billionaire Alexander Lebedev is unusual.

0:56:080:56:11

'He's a vocal critic of the Kremlin

0:56:110:56:13

'but he too says Russia was unfairly treated over the action it took.'

0:56:130:56:18

I think there's too many wrong things said about Russia.

0:56:180:56:21

Everybody in the world

0:56:210:56:23

says this is the old, aggressive Soviet-style Russia

0:56:230:56:26

now attacking a small, democratic and very peaceful state.

0:56:260:56:30

So what do you think the war was actually about?

0:56:300:56:32

I think Russia had no other way but behave this way.

0:56:320:56:36

We mishandled it from the point of view of propaganda,

0:56:360:56:39

of explaining our position, but the West should be a bit more objective.

0:56:390:56:42

What is it that the West doesn't understand about Russia?

0:56:420:56:45

If I could tell it and specify it,

0:56:450:56:48

the issue would have been resolved in one minute,

0:56:480:56:50

and it hasn't been resolved for hundreds of years.

0:56:500:56:53

What happens is that sometimes people in the West think they know

0:56:530:56:58

and understand Russia and Russians

0:56:580:57:01

but they don't.

0:57:010:57:03

We didn't understand what the Soviet Union was during the Cold War

0:57:030:57:07

and arguably we still don't fully understand what Russia is today

0:57:070:57:10

because we like to look at a caricatured vision of Russia.

0:57:100:57:14

We will never penetrate Russia

0:57:140:57:16

in the way we can penetrate the United States mentally

0:57:160:57:20

because of the barrier of the language.

0:57:200:57:22

I don't think the media have particularly helped us

0:57:220:57:25

because they have tended to present the relationship with Russia

0:57:250:57:29

in an either-or situation.

0:57:290:57:31

Either a real threat and a problem,

0:57:310:57:36

so in the Stalin period or even now in the Putin period,

0:57:360:57:40

or else very cosy, very friendly,

0:57:400:57:43

as in the middle of the Second World War or in the Gorbachev era.

0:57:430:57:46

An attempt to really understand the complexities of Russia

0:57:460:57:51

is much rarer on the British media.

0:57:510:57:55

Now, nearly 80 years have passed since Winston Churchill

0:58:040:58:07

uttered his famous summation of Russia

0:58:070:58:09

as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

0:58:090:58:13

Strangely, these words seem as true now as they did then.

0:58:130:58:17

British television may never be able to crack the mystery

0:58:200:58:23

of the largest country on Earth.

0:58:230:58:26

Despite the entangled history of our two nations,

0:58:280:58:32

a true understanding of Russia may be more distant now

0:58:320:58:36

than ever before.

0:58:360:58:38

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS