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Britain's relationship with Russia | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
has been marked by centuries of suspicion. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
The British have always been afraid of the Russians. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
In the last hundred years, they've been friend... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
To the men of the Red Army. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
..and foe. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
This is how a war between the Soviet Union and the West would begin. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
They've saved our skins | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
and terrified us with the thought of total annihilation. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
'This will be the legacy of thermonuclear war.' | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
Britain would be in the bull's-eye of any Soviet attack. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
At the outbreak of World War II, Winston Churchill famously | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
described Russia as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:47 | |
These words have almost come to define | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Britain's view of Russia ever since - | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
an inscrutable power that always plays by its own rules. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
In this film I'm going to examine how television has reflected | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
our ever-changing relationship, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
from the tensions of the Cold War to the excitement of glasnost. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
The West in general was a little bit naive. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
And the Russian people who've lived through it all. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
This is how arguably Britain's most complex international relationship | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
has played out on television. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
This is the Timewatch Guide to Russia. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
October 1st, 1939, a month into World War II. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
Winston Churchill pondered on Russia's next move. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Would they keep to their non-aggression pact | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
with Nazi Germany or join the Allies? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
The Soviet Union refused to fight against Hitler | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
and instead attempted to annex parts of Europe for themselves. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Churchill was quick to denounce them. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
'Everyone can see how communism | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
'rots the soul of a nation, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
'how it makes it abject and hungry in peace | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
'and proves it base and abominable in war.' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
When Hitler turned his attentions to attacking Russia, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
they joined the Allies in the fight against fascism. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
The Red oppressor now suddenly became | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
our trusted partner in battle. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Now, a very different Russia was presented to Britons. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Newsreel praised the war effort of our Russian comrades. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
'It does us good to see our Russian comrades at work. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
'They and we are members of the free world, fighting and working | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'to make the better way of life in which no man shall be exploited | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
'and every one of us shall carry his head high.' | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Britain publicly celebrated the Red Army's 25th anniversary. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
In Glasgow, Tory MPs, under Soviet iconography, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
praised the communist power. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
We shall have one debt after this war | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
and that is our debt of gratitude to the men of the Red Army. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
To our comrades, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
our grand salute to the men of the Red Army. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
This is the story that doesn't get told. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
This footage, as far as I'm aware, hasn't really been used | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
or analysed by historians. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
We often focus on Russia as the enemy. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
So you had a shift and a very profound change in the rhetoric, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
from...from the Red Menace | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
and from a revolution that actually some feared could happen in the UK, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
to Uncle Joe, our friend, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
he's the man who's going to stop German troops, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and an encouraging of a much softer view of the Soviet Union. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
MACHINE-GUN FIRE | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
In May 1945, the Nazi war machine was finally destroyed. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
From the ashes of the most savage global conflict in human history, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
the USSR would now emerge as a superpower. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
As Germany was divided among the Allies, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
the old political and cultural confrontation between the forces | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
of capitalism and communism were almost instantly resumed. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
Britain and Russia were firmly back on opposing sides | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
of the political fence, and, by the 1960s | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
one fear loomed largest in the Western public's imagination - | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
nuclear war. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
With Soviet missiles discovered installed in Cuba | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
and the Russians' test detonation of the largest-ever hydrogen bomb, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
television captured the national mood in Britain. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
With The War Game, the film-makers showed us in graphic detail | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
where our escalating tensions with Russia could ultimately lead. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
We're shown an unprepared Britain | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
facing a full-scale Russian nuclear attack. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
'Time, 9:13am.' | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
SIREN | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Hurry, inside the house! | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Move! Come on, come on! Quick! | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
'This family couldn't afford to build themselves a refuge. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
'This could be the way the last two minutes of peace in Britain | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
'would look.' | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Get all the children! | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
'9:16am, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
'a single-megaton nuclear missile overshoots Manston Airfield in Kent | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
'and air-bursts six miles from this position. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
SCREAMING | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
'At this distance, the heatwave is sufficient | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
'to cause melting of the upturned eyeball, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'third-degree burning of the skin and ignition of furniture.' | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
SCREAMING | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
'12 seconds later, the shock front arrives. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
SCREAMING | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
DEEP RUMBLING SOUND | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
'These are the inhabitants of what was once a housing estate | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
'near Rochester in Kent. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
'Following the explosion of three single-megaton missiles | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
'within this one county boundary, it's been estimated | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
'that each surviving doctor | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
'would be faced by at least 350 casualties, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
'many suffering from severe second and third-degree burns. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
'These will be the other casualties of a nuclear war. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
'Physically unmarked, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
'there will almost inevitably be thousands of people suffering from | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
'many complex states of fear and shock due to the things they've seen | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
'and the things that have happened to them. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
'Many of these people will probably lapse | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
'into a state of permanent neurosis. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
'This too will be the legacy of thermonuclear war.' | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
WHIMPERING AND CRYING | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
While the programme-makers in 1965 regarded this | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
as a legitimate portrayal of what could happen in World War III, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
the BBC, after pressure from the Government, did not. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
The film was banned for 20 years. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
For people in Britain, the Cold War really moves, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
as one historian has said, from the head to the gut. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
It's when you feel it viscerally. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
And of course it's in the '60s | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
that we have a big campaign for nuclear disarmament, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
a feeling that this is an issue now which is so important | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
that people have to take to the streets in order to stop the growth | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
of nuclear weapons and the possibility of nuclear annihilation. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
The superpower stand-off that was the Cold War | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
would grind on for over four decades from 1947. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
The 1970s brought a welcome detente | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
but, secretly, the arms race continued. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
The fear that the Cold War could spiral out of control | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and into a full-scale global conflict was played out on the BBC. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
SIREN | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
'This is how a war between the Soviet Union and the West | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
'would begin. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
'For over 30 years, there has been an uneasy peace in Europe, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
'preserved by a balance of military power. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
'Is that balance tilting dangerously in favour of the Soviet Union?' | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
The trends have been adverse to the West over the past 15 years. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
There is no question but that there has been a massive shift | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
in relative military power. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
In 1977's The Writing On The Wall, retired British Army officer | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
and politician Lord Chalfont travels to Germany's East-West border, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
the symbol of a world now split into two hostile camps. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
'The land border between East and West runs for nearly 1,000 miles | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
'through divided Germany - a network of electrified fences, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
'barbed wire, mines and machine-gun posts. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
'As soon as I appeared with the camera crew, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'an East German patrol arrived on the other side, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
'intensely interested in what we were up to. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
'This elaborate system of fences, with its vicious little weapons, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
'it designed mainly, of course, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
'to keep East Germans in East Germany. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
'It has no military significance at all.' | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Nonetheless, the film is still keen to point out | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
the possibility of Russian aggression. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
'If the Russian tanks came down to the wire and the gates were opened, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
'they'd sweep through into West Germany, and then the question is, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
'could we stop them getting to the Rhine?' | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
We are deeply suspicious because we don't have a true insight | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
into what the Soviets are thinking. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Historians were saying well into the 20th century | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
that one of the best sources they could get out of the Soviet Union | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
was rumour, because they had no access to documents, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
they had no access to the inner thoughts of the Soviet leadership. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
A year later, the Cold War took off into outer space. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
The British public had flocked to see the intergalactic battle | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
between good and evil, Star Wars. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Meanwhile, back on Earth, things also had a hint of sci-fi, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
as the USA and USSR planned a new generation of space laser weapons. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
Exploring public fears of what would soon be dubbed the Evil Empire | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
made for some terrific viewing. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
'Nothing now remains ridiculous in contemplating the real war in space. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
'Weapons that would have earned the derision of Buck Rogers himself | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
'are today being researched and tested in laboratories | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
'in Russia and America. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
'If the high-energy laser can be compared to focusing the rays | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
'of the sun through a giant magnifying glass, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
'the devastating new particle-beam weapon | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
'can be compared to harnessing and controlling bolts of lightning. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
'These weapons are already in an advanced state of research. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
'They would work by converting colossal amounts of energy | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
'into subatomic particles. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
'These are then shot through the atmosphere in space in the form | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
'of a beam, and they're shot with such force and at such speed | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
'that the beam effectively disembowels its target. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
'By destroying all known matter, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
'the particle beam is today's ultimate space weapon.' | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Throughout the Cold War years, a balanced view of Russia | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
was generally absent from our screens. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Part of the problem was lack of access, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
but material that supported our fear of Russia did make for gripping TV. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
In 1985, everything changed. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Russia's economy was in decline. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
A new reformist leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
headed the Communist Party and the USSR was beginning to crumble. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Finally, the BBC felt it was safe to show The War Game, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
which now was beginning to look comfortingly like history. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
What's happened by 1985 is that we've lived through | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
a period of peaceful coexistence. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
We're a little bit more certain of how the Soviets will respond | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
to certain situations, how they will manage their nuclear arsenal, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
and we're presuming that they are capable | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
and sensible enough not to use the bomb. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Those were certainties that Britain simply didn't have in the '60s. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
The climate of opinion by the '80s is different. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
I think there is more of a sense of reality television. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
There are a number of films in the early '80s | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
about the consequences of nuclear war. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
I think the BBC and the media is also more open to discussing | 0:13:35 | 0:13:41 | |
alternative views of what's going on. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
When Gorbachev rose to become leader of the USSR, his policy of glasnost, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
or openness, was meant to aid desperately needed economic reform. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
But it also meant that Soviet archives | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
hiding years of the regime's abuses | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
were finally opened for both Russians and the world to see. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
British documentary TV played a major role in revealing | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
the true horror of the Soviet regime. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
In the summer of 1988, in an audacious step, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
history exams for Russian schoolchildren were cancelled. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
It was decreed that their textbooks were full of Stalinist cover-ups | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
and lies. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
In the same year, back in Britain, Timewatch began to reveal | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
some of these horrors in Bukharin And The Terror, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
showing the shocking disparity in the 1930s | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
between Stalin's public persona, created through propaganda, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
and the reality of his barbarism. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
'One child whose life was profoundly affected by the terror | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
'was Engelsina Markizova. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
'Aged seven, she attended one of Stalin's meetings in 1936 | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
'with her father, a minor party official from Serbia.' | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
-TRANSLATION: -I felt awfully bored. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
I was sitting there with a huge bunch of flowers, two of them. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Then I got fed up, and during one of the speeches I just got up | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
and started off towards the platform. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Stalin turned round and picked me up. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
That's the moment they printed the photo of. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
I thought I was the happiest girl in the whole country. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Because when I came downstairs to the hotel lobby the next day, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
I saw that all the papers had my photo in them - | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
a little girl and Stalin. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
And I was very proud of that. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
I told everyone, you know, "That's my picture. It's me, it's me." | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
And people started to invite me to visit them, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
people who lived in the hotel. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
And they gave me all sorts of presents, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
because I had become very, very famous. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
'A sculpture of Engelsina | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
'entitled Thank You, Comrade Stalin, For My Happy Childhood | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
'was erected in Moscow. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
'On December the 11th, 1937, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
'Engelsina's father disappeared.' | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
-TRANSLATION: -That was shattering, of course, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
because after such a placid life | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
I suddenly found myself the daughter of an enemy of the people. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Naturally, we wrote Stalin a letter, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
because we certainly didn't link my father's arrest with Stalin. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Well, the response to the letter we sent to Stalin... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
that's to say I wrote it and my mother dictated it... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
..was the arrest of my mother. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
'Stalin's reputation remained divorced from the terror | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
'until after his death in 1953. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
'Such was his effect on ordinary people | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
'that no-one realised what he had done.' | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
What happened in the Soviet Union is when you allowed people | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
to begin speaking openly | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
you had almost an overwhelming outburst of new material - | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
archives, film, photographs, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
that characterised all... all throughout the late 1980s. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
And then of course by 1990-91 | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
there was a kind of floodgate of discussion | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
at the point where the regime is falling apart. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
As the communist regime entered its death throes, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
we were being presented with some of the most heinous acts | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
it had committed on its own citizens. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
'During the 1930s and '40s, tens of millions of people | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
'from all over the Soviet Union were arrested as enemies of the people. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
'They disappeared into the Gulag, a network of labour camps | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
'that stretched to every corner of the Soviet Union. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
'They were accused of spying, sabotage and treachery. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
'The vast majority were innocent.' | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
At these camps in Kolyma, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
in the remote corner of the Russian Far East, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
prisoners were forced to mine for gold. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Even for those who managed to survive the Gulag system | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
and return home, the nightmare didn't end. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
The testimonies of camp survivors were horrifying to us in the West | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
but perhaps even more shocking to the Russians themselves. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
This was the thing that undermined the system I think more than anything else. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
It was this...the flood of history. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Suddenly people said, well, if it was, you know, so many people died | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
and so many people were killed by this system, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
you know, why is it legitimate? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Television revealed the truth about Soviet history to a wide audience | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
but it's notable that even post-glasnost | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
TV didn't always provide a rounded picture of Russia. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
When we look at how we have presented Russia | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
on British television, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
we can see that the things we choose to tell and show | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
often reflect more on our own preconceptions of Russia. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
They often celebrate those most bloody and brutal aspects | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
of Russian history. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
Digging deeper into history a decade later, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
details of perhaps the darkest chapter of Russia's past | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
were revealed. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
In the West, World War II is often portrayed as being won | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
on the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
while Russia's enormous sacrifice | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
has almost been airbrushed from history. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
In 2002, Timewatch attempted to redress the balance. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
In the summer of 1941, the Nazi juggernaut surged across Russia | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
and one of Hitler's top targets was the city of Leningrad - | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
the former tsarist capital, renamed for the founder of the Soviet state. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
Aiming to capture the city | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
before the onset of the unforgiving Russian winter, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
the first German artillery shell hit as September began. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
But Stalin was as determined to defend Leningrad | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
as Hitler was to raze it to the ground. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
The ensuing stand-off between the Wehrmacht and the Red Army | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
would last for nearly 900 days. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Caught in the middle, frozen and starved, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
three million civilians. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-TRANSLATION: -It's impossible to communicate that feeling of hunger. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
It's the most terrible thing in the world. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
You have the feeling that some sort of animal has climbed inside you. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
Some savage beast. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
And he's scratching you, gouging you with his claws, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
tearing your insides, ripping everything. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
He demands bread, bread. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
Demands food. Demands to be fed. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
'The temperature dropped to -30 degrees Celsius. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
'The city had no more fuel, electricity | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
'or running water. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
'With no strength to bury their dead in the frozen ground, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
'bodies were left to lie in the streets.' | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
As the Red Army troops fought bravely to defend their city, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
the lives of her people were reduced to unimaginable brutality. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
What was also even more sinister taking place | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
was that murder for human meat | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
was...was occurring. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
That there were cases of people who were simply waylaying others, | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
particularly children, because after all their meat would be tender, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
and they were killing people for... for meat. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
Stalin achieved his goal. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Leningrad was saved, but only at the cost | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
of what's estimated to be over one million lives. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
More Russians died in the siege than the combined number | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
of Britons and Americans in the entire Second World War. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
The siege of Leningrad, which was a spectacular, appalling disaster, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
I mean, in which people resorted to cannibalism and eating rats | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
and chewing on floorboards, is not very well known in this country | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
and, of course, it wasn't the only such event | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
in the eastern half of the continent but it does show you what... | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
the level of suffering being something that actually in Britain was unknown. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
This is a city that's still... it's proud of what it had done, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
but still, in a sense, unable to speak about it. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Perhaps because the amount of suffering | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
is just too impossible to talk about. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
It's on an astronomic scale. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Certainly nothing that we can comprehend properly | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
from our war experience. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Stretching right back to Ivan the Terrible in the 16th century, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Russia has time and again found itself under the control | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
of the autocratic strongman who dominates his era. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
In the 20th century, British documentary television | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
has found its powerful figures endlessly intriguing. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Russian leaders have built up powerful personality cults | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
and we rely on historians and film-makers | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
to strip away the artifice. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
In 1997, 80 years after he seized power in the October Revolution, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Timewatch took on the myth | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
surrounding the first communist leader - Lenin. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Before glasnost, some on the British left had admired the ideology | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
of Lenin, but with newly released documentation, Timewatch revealed | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
the Bolshevik Party leader was not all that he seemed. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
'Once they held mass rallies in Red Square. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
'Today, Russia's Communist Party | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
'can muster only a few hundred old diehards. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
'The polished-granite mausoleum behind them holds the mortal remains | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
'of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
'In the Soviet era, his image was preserved and embalmed | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
'with the same reverence as his body. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
'The man who founded the perfect socialist society | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
'had to be depicted as perfect himself. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
'That man represented a whole epoch. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
'Everything that has been created and is being created | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
'in our Soviet land is connected with his name, with his plans.' | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
'In today's Russia, Lenin is becoming an unperson. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
'His statue, which once had pride of place in the Kremlin, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
'has been banished to a remote corner of the Gorki estate. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
'Communists no longer have the power to shape history | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
'to suit the party line. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
'In recent years, facts about Lenin long forgotten, long suppressed, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
'have been coming to light. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
'Until the collapse of communism, they lay buried here | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
'in the central party archives. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
'Only a handful of trusted party historians were allowed access | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
'to Lenin's secret files. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
'The secret archives have revealed a crueller and more violent side | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
'to Lenin's character. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We know of several documented examples of this. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Some of these show that in the summer of 1918 in Nizhny Novgorod, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
Lenin gave orders to hang a hundred kulaks in public | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
in order to force others to hand over their grain to the state. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
"Hang no fewer than a hundred well-known rich peasants. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
"Make sure that the hangings take place in full view of the people." | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Some people in our country have revised their judgment | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
of Lenin solely on the basis of new documents | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
which illustrate his brutality. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
For example, his orders to hang and shoot people | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
and his statements that civilians should precede Red Army soldiers | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
when they went on the attack. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
The respect that he'd been held in, at least on the left, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
certainly on the far left, in Britain, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
erm, even there it began to dissolve. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
What we see with Lenin's secret files | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
are the fact that he was more than willing to order the execution | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
of his enemies, of his opponents, of those that opposed | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
the Russian revolution, or those that were simply holding it up. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
We often think of the most brutal elements of the Soviet Union | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
as being the responsibility of Stalin. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Well, in some ways, Stalin had a good teacher when it came to Lenin. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
In 1924, Lenin died. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Both Russia and the West expected him to be succeeded | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
by his right-hand man Leon Trotsky. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
But the ill-educated and boorish general secretary of the party, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Joseph Stalin, schemed his way to the top. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
In power, Stalin became a god-like figure. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
A protector and a punisher. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
The all-seeing, omnipresent, supreme being. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
It seemed as though no thought or deed of a Russian | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
was beyond his control. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Although we needed him in World War II, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Stalin was a hate figure for many in the West. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
But we were also fascinated by him. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
It was only after glasnost, when witnesses began to speak up, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
that Timewatch could reveal the hidden details | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
of his true contempt for even his most loyal subjects. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
After the Red Army and ordinary citizens drove back the Nazis | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
in the siege of Leningrad, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Stalin feared he was losing his grip on the city. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
As the loyal Leningraders prepared to take part | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
in his 70th-birthday celebrations, Stalin struck. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
'On the basis of a series of bizarre allegations, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
'most of the Leningrad party organisation, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
'including their wives, parents and children, were arrested | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
'in what became known as the Leningrad Affair. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
One by one, the heroes of the Leningrad siege, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
from military leaders to party members, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
were arrested, tortured, accused of treason | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
and either exiled | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
or executed. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
'Even today, some of the truth about what happened | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
'is still hidden in the Russian archives. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
'A number of the documents relating to the Leningrad Affair | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
'and Stalin's involvement in it | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
'are still classified. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
'Lev Voznesensky is one of the few people who have been allowed | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
'behind the locked doors of the archive to study these documents. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
'He was able to copy some of them by hand.' | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Comrade Stalin didn't always give orders | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
in the form of clear directives. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I don't think it was accidental. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
It's what a person does | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
if he doesn't want to leave any clear tracks. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
Stalin directly managed the Leningrad Affair. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
When you become familiar with these documents, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
you'll recognise the symbols Stalin used. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
A little cross by a surname or an underlined phrase. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
They show the full agreement of comrade Stalin, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
whom he wants to be arrested, whom he wants to be tried. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Until his death, Stalin's grip on the Russian people never faltered. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
In the 1940s, there was the so-called cult of personality | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
everywhere in the Soviet Union. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
There were photographs of Stalin in every office building, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
Stalin's birthday was celebrated with great fanfare, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
there were clubs of children who were taught to sing songs | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
in praises of Stalin, Stalin's name was in all the history books. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
You would have had trouble getting through the day, probably, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
without hearing his name or seeing his picture. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
So his presence was all-pervasive | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
and this had a very deep effect on people. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Some people did love him or feel that he somehow symbolised | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
their nation and some people were simply very, very afraid of him. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
It wasn't just Stalin's persona that was so powerful | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
and shrouded in mystery, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
but also his relationships with his inner circle. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
In 2005, Timewatch and the historian Simon Sebag Montefiore | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
found new evidence that allowed them to make a rather unusual docudrama. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
This was an investigation of a conspiracy theory | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
in which Stalin, for once, played the victim. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
'The dictator Joseph Stalin, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
'who's already killed 30 million Soviet citizens, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
'suddenly falls into a coma. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
'Those surrounding his bed each have a motive to want him dead. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
'Svetlana, his estranged daughter. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
'Vasily, his unbalanced, alcoholic son. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
'Vyacheslav Molotov, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
'Stalin's most trusted accomplice. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
'Nikita Khrushchev, Stalin's fool. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
'And Lavrentiy Beria, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
'the secret policeman. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
'New evidence suggests that someone in this room may have killed Stalin. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
'Tonight we set out to find out who.' | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
In an Agatha Christie-style whodunnit, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Sebag Montefiore pulls together evidence to paint a picture | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
of exactly what happened at Stalin's deathbed | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
and enjoys revealing possible evidence of foul play | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
in hidden medical records. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
'The archive now further raises the prospect of murder, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
'undermining the idea that Stalin's illness was solely caused, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
'as officially related, by a haemorrhage in the brain.' | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
5th of March, it's now midday in the dacha. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Around the bed, everyone's watching. There's quiet. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
HE COUGHS | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
And suddenly, Stalin wretches | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
and then vomits blood. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
And this is terribly significant. We knew nothing of this before. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Why was his stomach suddenly bleeding so heavily? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
And the answer could well be that he had received some sort of poison | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
which caused his stomach to bleed. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
'So could this be the result of poison administered earlier | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
'by the bodyguard on Beria's orders? | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
'The idea that the vomiting of blood was caused by poison | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
'gains greater weight when Simon looks at the version | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
'in the Soviet press.' | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
We're looking here at Pravda on the 6th of March, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
the announcement of Stalin's death the next day, the next morning, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
and one finds no mention whatsoever of stomach haemorrhaging. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
No blood in the stomach, no vomiting of blood. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
So what has happened between the public announcement | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
of Stalin's death and the conclusion of the doctors just hours earlier? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
Well, someone has decided, and clearly it's Beria, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
to drop this rather significant information | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
about the haemorrhaging of blood into Stalin's stomach. Why? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
'At 9:50pm, March the 5th, Stalin was finally dying. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
'Svetlana described his last act.' | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Suddenly he lifted his hand as though he were pointing up above | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
and bringing down a curse on us all. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
The gesture was full of menace. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
'Vasily shouted... | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
'.."The bastards have murdered Father." ' | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Then came Beria's voice, the hint of triumph concealed. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
"My car!" | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
And Svetlana's belief that Beria had secretly assassinated her father | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
is supported by one more compelling piece of evidence. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
At Stalin's funeral, he whispered to Molotov and he said, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:37 | |
"I did you all a favour. I did him in." | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
But Sebag Montefiore remains unconvinced by the theory. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
The stomach haemorrhage and the vomiting of blood could just be | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
the result of a sick old body packing up, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
partly because he mistrusted medical advice. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
And the leadership may have deleted these details | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
from the public announcement because Stalin's system of government | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
meant they were understandably frightened | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
of arousing any suspicion. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Every suspicious circumstance was the result of the terror | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
that Stalin himself inspired. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Alone and dying, it may be that people were simply too afraid | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
to come to his aid. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
So if I had to point the finger at someone, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
then I think, ironically, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
I'd point the finger at Stalin himself. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
Even decades after his death, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
the horrific figure of Stalin still haunts our perception of Russia. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
With Lenin and Stalin the towering titans of the early 20th century, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
we could only investigate their political intrigues in retrospect. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
But at the end of the 20th century, a new leader emerged, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
and this time, through film-makers, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
we've been able to watch his rise to power. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
Back in 2001, BBC Correspondent was asking, who is Putin? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:03 | |
'As the new millennium starts, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
'Russia, like the United States, has a new president. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
'Vladimir Putin has been in charge for a year but he's still an enigma. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
'A decade since the Cold War, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
'should we fear new superpower confrontations? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
'What has shaped this former spy and Kremlin bureaucrat? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
'Where is this man taking Russia? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
'Not long after his inauguration, he presided over a Red Square parade - | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
'the 55th anniversary of the end of the Second World War. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
'The massive military display astonished Moscow. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
'It was like being back in the Soviet Union. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
'And Putin's speech was an unapologetic celebration | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
'of Soviet victories.' | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
-ALL: -Ura! | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
'Words of enormous resonance for a nation whose international prestige | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
'had plummeted.' | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Putin started as a...a reformer, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
a nationalist reformer. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Erm, he's now often painted as a sort of second Hitler | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
or something like that, or with those kind of pretensions. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
What we don't really understand, I think, and we've missed | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
is the sense of deep grievance in Russia | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
about the way that things have gone since the end of the Cold War. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
Seven years later, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
and after a series of high-profile assassinations of his critics... | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
I looked into Mr Putin's eyes and I saw three letters - | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
a K, a G and a B. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
..Britain knew all too well who Putin was | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
and we were beginning to fear him like the Soviet leaders of old. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
Panorama tried to get a grip on why Russians | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
would voluntarily support him. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
'Oscar-winning director Nikita Mikhalkov | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
'is the most powerful man in Russia's film industry. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
'He's also close to Vladimir Putin. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
'He's in no doubt why his friend is so popular.' | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Because he answers questions. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Because he does not drink. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
Because he looks good. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Because it is clear what he stands for. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Because he does not hide from problems. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
You ask why do people like Putin. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
Because he has given Russia her dignity back. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
'But it's not just Putin's friends in high places | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
'who think a firm hand's needed. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
'The wealth is starting to trickle down to a new middle class | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
'who shop at places like GUM, Moscow's answer to Harrods. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
'They too love Putin.' | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We are not as civilised as we would like to be, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
which is why we have pretty hard leaders. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
For now there's no other way to rule us. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
And maybe with us Russians you need to be tough. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
'And no wonder, after the 1990s, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
'Russia was reeling from financial and social chaos. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
'Meanwhile, President Boris Yeltsin often appeared less than in control. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:06 | |
'The once-feared superpower was bankrupt and on its knees. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
'Crime was rampant and contract hits common.' | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Putin is not so much a cause of something | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
but the product of a reaction to the national humiliation | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
and collapse and degradation that we saw here in the 1990s. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
The country woke up again when Putin came. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
It stopped washing its dirty linen abroad, telling everyone | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
how sick, drunk and incapable of a normal existence we are. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
Putin gave us our nation back. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
'So, that's the popular view in the capital. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
'But Moscow is not Russia, the locals like to say. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
'A hundred miles away, things look very different. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
'But even here, where life is a struggle, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
'it's not hard to find fans of Vladimir Putin. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
'Take Larissa and her parents. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
'She earns £250 a month and their pension is only £80 each. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:24 | |
'Capitalism has not been good to them. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
'Mention Putin's name, however, and you will hear only praise.' | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Under Putin, of course things have become better. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
'Before Putin became Prime Minister, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
'most Russians wanted him to stay on as President. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
'What do you think?' | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Of course it would have been better for him to stay | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
because during his time we saw no suffering. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
Now, they pay our pensions and even raise them. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
I think that we often look at Russians as somehow duped people, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
that they've just naively accepted Putin's control | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
and that they don't know what's going on. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
I think that's a dangerous perception to cultivate in Britain. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
There's genuine opposition to Putin, there's genuine concern to Putin, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
there's genuine support for Putin and there's everything in between. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
It's also important not to forget that the democracy promised | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
in the glasnost era never quite materialised. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
We often talk about Putin's poll numbers | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
but we don't talk about how one gets poll numbers. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Often these are phone calls and you will pick up the phone, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
you'll be asked, what do you think of President Putin? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Well, if I were a Russian, I would think, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
who's on the end of the line? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
So I think sometimes the way that we present these things | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
is a little bit, erm, skewed. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
Film-makers have captured the power games of the Cold War, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
revealed the hidden horrors of Soviet rule | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
and explored the personas of Russia's leaders. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
But when it comes to the Russian people, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
their portrayal on TV has often been obscured by limited access | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
and the shadow of big history. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
In 1975, programme-makers found it hard to separate Russians | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
from the regime they lived under. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
In KGB - The Soviet Secret Police, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
we're presented with an Orwellian nightmare version of Russia. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
A society in which no-one can be trusted. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
'From their earliest schooldays, children are instilled with | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
'the concept that loyalty to the state is the highest virtue | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
'and talebearers, far from being discouraged, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
'are treated like little heroes.' | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
I would say that we are expected | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
to inform on our classmates. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
'As a little girl, Alla Rusinek had a conventional Soviet education. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
'She recently emigrated to Israel.' | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
Probably this was the result of the education. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
And our heroes... | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
were Young Pioneers... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
..who reported on their parents. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
The famous hero | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
was Pavlik Morozov, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
who reported his father | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
to the authorities | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
and his father then killed him for this. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
So we were expected | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
to behave the same way. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
This idea that they were willing to denounce their parents | 0:48:39 | 0:48:44 | |
or that there was a culture or a society | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
that was developing along those lines | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
was another example of otherness, of alienness. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
'In recent years, there has been a calculated effort to improve | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
'the image of the KGB with the man in the street. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
'To eradicate the nightmare memories | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
'of the secret police of Stalin's time, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
'which subjected the entire country to 30 years | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
'of unrestrained lawlessness and terror. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
'And for the ordinary Russian today, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
'the KGB is synonymous with authority. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
'This is what makes the KGB unique | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
'among the intelligence services of the world | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
'and makes it so powerful as a secret police organisation, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
'for the Soviet citizen has to rely upon authority | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
'for almost everything in his life. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
'For a start, his freedom of movement | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
'is controlled and kept in check through a complicated system | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
'of documentation and registration. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
'The most important document is the internal passport. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
'Everyone over the age of 16 is issued with one of these. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
'He must produce it to the police on request | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
'and is meant to register with the authorities | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
'if he moves anywhere inside the Soviet Union or stays at a hotel. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
'It does not entitle him to travel abroad. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
'In addition, every citizen is registered in a house book, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
'kept by the caretaker of the block of flats where he lives. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
'If he is away for any length of time or has foreign visitors | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
'or behaves suspiciously in any way, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
'this may be entered in the book or reported to the KGB.' | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
But with glasnost, it seemed that we would finally be able to build | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
a relationship and an understanding with Russia's people. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
As the 1990s dawned, for the first time we could hear a cacophony | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
of Russian voices speaking out against the system. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
RUSSIAN CHORAL SINGING | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Welcome to this live programme from Moscow. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
It's the fifth anniversary of the week in which Mikhail Gorbachev | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
became leader of the Soviet Union. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
Here in Russia, where more than half the Soviet people live, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
it's been election day today. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
The first chance that they've had to choose the individuals | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
that they want to represent them in local and regional government | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
and in the Russian parliament itself. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
There was a huge amount of hope in the West about Russia. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
There was a hope that the Soviet Union would evolve into something, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
erm, if not like us, then friendlier to us. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
This would have been inconceivable five, four, even three years ago. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
Individual Soviet citizens holding court in the street, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
crowding round you in animated argument | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
about the state of the nation. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
They debate glasnost and perestroika, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
communism and the free market. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
They argue about the demise of the party, ethnic conflict | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
and even the collapse of the Soviet Union. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
THEY SPEAK RUSSIAN | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
After a long history in which silence has been imposed upon them, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
it is still remarkable for the outsider to witness at first hand | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
the awakening of the Russian people. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
No fears, no inhibitions, just the outpouring | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
of long-suppressed feelings and opinions. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
If promising to listen and learn is a new experience for him, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
it is no less remarkable for his audience. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
And this is a new experience for everyone? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
TRANSLATOR SPEAKS | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
Can any of you imagine voting one day for another party? | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
The kind of conversations that were seen on that film | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
of people on the streets talking openly about society | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
and change and so on, erm... | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
I think in Britain and in the West generally | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
there was a tendency to say, oh, great, finally they've seen sense, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
they're going our way, they're going to become like us. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
There's a sense that this could lead to genuine debate, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
to something more akin to democracy. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
Erm, I think also...Britain was also a little bit naive. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
The West in general was a little bit naive. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
This new age of optimism was not to last. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
In the 1990s, Russia plunged into economic meltdown. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
When she rose again a decade later, in the Putin era, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
many in the West felt disturbed. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
Russia now seemed alien and threatening yet again. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
In the 21st century, we're now being presented with | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
a new type of Russian we haven't seen before. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
The super-rich. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
In 2008, Panorama squeezed into an exclusive Moscow party | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
celebrating the launch of the first Russian edition | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
of the society magazine Tatler. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Now joining those Western standards Hello and Vogue | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
on the Russian newsstands. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
I have a feeling that almost all the country changed. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
When I look at my first issues, I think, oh, my God, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
this was the magazine done and tailor-made for a different country. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
This was a Russia that had embraced capitalism with a vengeance. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:57 | |
In Britain, we're looking at the excesses of Russian capitalism | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
and almost turning our nose up, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
almost thinking, oh, they might have money but they don't have class. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
And there's a danger in that view. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
There's a danger that we are not presenting the Russians fairly | 0:55:11 | 0:55:17 | |
and it's not to say that Russian capitalism is a pleasant thing, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
it's not to say that rich oligarchs are particular nice people, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
but there's also something unpleasant sometimes | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
around the way that the British media presents that. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
And behind the glitz and glamour, another story was playing out. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
When this programme was made in 2008, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
Russian tanks had just rolled into neighbouring Georgia. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
While the Russians felt besieged, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
the West viewed them as provocatively aggressive. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
'At events like this, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
'the Russia of today looks more like the West than ever. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
'These people are educated, sophisticated and travel abroad, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
'but scratch the surface and, even here, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
'people say we don't understand them. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
'And nowhere more so than over the recent invasion of Georgia. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
'Billionaire Alexander Lebedev is unusual. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
'He's a vocal critic of the Kremlin | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
'but he too says Russia was unfairly treated over the action it took.' | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
I think there's too many wrong things said about Russia. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
Everybody in the world | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
says this is the old, aggressive Soviet-style Russia | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
now attacking a small, democratic and very peaceful state. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
So what do you think the war was actually about? | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
I think Russia had no other way but behave this way. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
We mishandled it from the point of view of propaganda, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
of explaining our position, but the West should be a bit more objective. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
What is it that the West doesn't understand about Russia? | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
If I could tell it and specify it, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
the issue would have been resolved in one minute, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
and it hasn't been resolved for hundreds of years. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
What happens is that sometimes people in the West think they know | 0:56:53 | 0:56:58 | |
and understand Russia and Russians | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
but they don't. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
We didn't understand what the Soviet Union was during the Cold War | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
and arguably we still don't fully understand what Russia is today | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
because we like to look at a caricatured vision of Russia. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
We will never penetrate Russia | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
in the way we can penetrate the United States mentally | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
because of the barrier of the language. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
I don't think the media have particularly helped us | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
because they have tended to present the relationship with Russia | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
in an either-or situation. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
Either a real threat and a problem, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
so in the Stalin period or even now in the Putin period, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
or else very cosy, very friendly, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
as in the middle of the Second World War or in the Gorbachev era. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
An attempt to really understand the complexities of Russia | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
is much rarer on the British media. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
Now, nearly 80 years have passed since Winston Churchill | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
uttered his famous summation of Russia | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
Strangely, these words seem as true now as they did then. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
British television may never be able to crack the mystery | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
of the largest country on Earth. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
Despite the entangled history of our two nations, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
a true understanding of Russia may be more distant now | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
than ever before. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:38 |