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In or out? Stay or go? Remain or leave? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
As the arguments rage about our future with the European Union, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
one simple fact is inescapable, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
we're separated from continental Europe by geography | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
and, yes, history too. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Britain has always benefited through being somewhat separate. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
We do feel, you know, different. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Partly the island nation, partly the history. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
When Britain does want to lead in Europe, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
it almost always can. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You cannot have the same role | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
as in the 19th century, so... | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
For decades, one question has divided the public, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
has split parties, has felled prime ministers, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
has baffled and angered our neighbours. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Is Europe something that we are part of, or is Europe something separate? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Is it...is it them or is it us? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
It is both... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
but we're special. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
And let's recognise that, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
let's not be ashamed of that, let's be proud of it. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
I think we see the EU as them. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
And I think, actually, this is not just us, this is now... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Go to France, go to Germany, go to the Netherlands | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
and talk about the EU and it's "them," it's Brussels. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
If people were just arriving at the door of their villa in Spain, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
I think the "us" is quite powerful. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
But when they get back home, sneakily, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
although they've been told they really shouldn't do it, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
it's a bit racist and nasty, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
erm, they do think there's a difference between them and us. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
It is the people, you, who must now decide | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
whether Europe does mean them or us. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
The referendum in June will be the biggest decision | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
this country has taken for decades. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
In the past, the critical judgments | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
were largely made by our political leaders, their advisers, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
civil servants and diplomats, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
usually in private, rarely in public. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
This is the story of what they did and why. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
It's mighty hard to peer into the future, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
to know precisely what life will be like | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
if we choose to leave or to remain in the European Union. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
But one thing we can do is look at how we got here in the first place, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
to hear from those people whose decisions got us here. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
I like some bony bits in personality, some prickly bits. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
-It was a coup d'etat. -It was following it step by step. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
They always left us options open. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Oui, c'etait une sorte de trahison. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
It won't do! It won't do! | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
There were one or two - how shall I put it? - disobliging remarks. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
Oh, of course, but they were wrong. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
This wonderful treasure trove | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
of interviews with the key decision-makers filmed 20 years ago, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
many of whom of course are no longer with us, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
gives us a real insight into the decision that we now face. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
There's one interview we haven't got, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
it's with the man who in many ways was the father of a united Europe. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
No, he wasn't a Frenchman, he wasn't a German, he wasn't a Belgian, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
he was, in fact, the British Bulldog himself, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Winston Churchill. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
In the desperate days of June 1940, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Britain's new wartime leader's first instinct | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
was to go for full political union, quite unthinkable today. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
Churchill's plan, in a last-ditch effort to stop France | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
falling to the Nazis, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
was that Britain and France would become a single country, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
an indissoluble union with one war cabinet | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
running defence and the economy on both sides of the Channel. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
The British Cabinet backed it, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
but with one prophetic exception, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
they simply couldn't stomach the idea of a single currency. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
Days later France fell, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
and with it, at that stage, the idea of political union. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
CHEERING | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Straight after the war, Churchill gave the idea | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
of a united Europe another push. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
'20,000 people packed the Dam, or centre of Amsterdam, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
'to give a welcome to Winston Churchill. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
'And the new song, Europe Unite, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
'was sung as he drove past on his way through the city.' | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
CROWD SING EUROPE UNITE | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
But it wasn't clear exactly what he meant by European union. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
CHEERING | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
We cannot aim at anything less than the union of Europe as a whole. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
And we look forward with confidence to the day | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
when that union will be achieved. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
He had rather a simplest view of it. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
I always likened him to Moses, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
who pointed the way to the Promised Land, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
but he never actually led the children of Israel into...into it, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:16 | |
because he was old, but he did point the way | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
and fired the zeal and enthusiasm of others. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Please, lift your two fingers once more | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
for the V-sign, the sign of victory, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
but now the sign of winning the peace. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
CHEERING | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Churchill was never clear about what Britain's role should be. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Should we be partners or sponsors? Players or spectators? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Should we get involved, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
or simply encourage the grand project of unifying a continent? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Messieurs et mesdames...prenez garde... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
..je vais parler francais. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
CHEERING | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
He was ambiguous about Britain's role, but in the post-war talks | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
he was very clear that the old enemy must be part of the club. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
He looked round rather like a bull, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
an old bull fighting... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
and he said, "I don't see any Germans. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
"You know, you can't make Europe without Germany." | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
And there was no applause anywhere. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
A deep disillusion. Here was their hero...praising the Germans. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:40 | |
And it was as if he'd broken wind in public. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
So Churchill was clear, Europe couldn't be built without Germany, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
but with or without Britain? | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
We've always tended to see ourselves as different. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
After all, we won the war, they lost it or were conquered. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
We had friends all over the world, they did not. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
We were suspicious of politicians' grand dreams, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
they clung on to them as they tried to recover. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
In the early 1950s, France had cast aside | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
the nightmare of its recent past and was dreaming of the future. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
'There is more glamorous elegance to a square foot in the Champs-Elysees | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
'than to a square mile anywhere else on Earth. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
'In the season of high fashion, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
'it becomes, how would you say, an open-air studio.' | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
The French were, how would you say, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
drawing up designs not just for the Champs-Elysees, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
but for an entire continent. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
The political equivalent of Christian Dior | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
was France's Foreign Minister Robert Schuman, a man with a plan. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
'World interest focuses on the Quai d'Orsay, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
as six European nations, including Western Germany, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
meet for their first working session | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
on the Schuman Plan for pooling steel and coal. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Pooling steel and coal production? Sounds exciting. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
..as of vital importance to the future of the European idea. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
They were vital because they were the ingredients of war. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
The plan's real aim was to prevent another one. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
'Our respondents know that this is a front-page story.' | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
-Look, Schuman's just started to speak. -Oh, Lord! Off we go. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
"Oh, Lord! They're making Europe without us!" | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
SCHUMAN SPEAKS FRENCH | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
'France's Foreign Minister Robert Schuman | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
'is the author of the bold, imaginative plan | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
'which bears his name. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
'It is the key to the future of Europe, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
'economic as well as political.' | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
The plan aimed to bind together old enemies, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
France with a Germany now led by Konrad Adenauer. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
It was as much about war and peace as coal and steel, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
politics as much as economics. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-ADENAUER SPEAKS GERMAN -Let us act rapidly, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
because tomorrow it might be too late. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
'But Britain, notable absentee, has not yet made up her mind. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
'Her absence begs the question, can the Schuman Plan possibly succeed?' | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
Britain had the chance to join from the start. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
The very day his plan was announced, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Schuman sent his right-hand man, Jean Monnet, to London, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
in the hope Britain would sign up. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
But in the draft wording was a phrase which revealed | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
it was the beginning of a grand European design. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
It's a phrase still toxic today. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
"Oh," he said, "I've got it here." | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
And he took out of his pocket a piece of paper | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and gave it to us to read. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
And this was the essence of the Schuman Plan. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And it said a condition of joining | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
would be that we would accept the principle of a federal Europe. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:49 | |
We said, "We don't think | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
"that the government will be able to accept this. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
"Are we to understand that if we don't agree to this, | 0:09:54 | 0:10:02 | |
"you don't want us in?" | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
And he said, "Yes, that is the position." | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
The idea of a federal Europe, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
one with powerful central institutions, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
didn't appeal to the British government. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
For three weeks, ministers sat on the fence | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
until they were given 24 hours to make up their minds. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
I was just planning to go home from the Treasury at eight o'clock, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and my secretary told me that a message had been received | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
from the French that unless we had agreed to accept the whole thing | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
by eight o'clock the following evening, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
we should be excluded from all further discussions. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
It was almost an ultimatum, so to speak, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
"We want a reply by such and such a date." | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Well, I said to my private secretary, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
"I can't believe such a message has been sent by the French government," | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
which up to that moment we assumed | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
were a friendly and civilised government. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
And she said, "Well, that's just what all the ministers have said, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
"so we're wiring back to Paris." | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
The French wired back that this really was make your mind up time, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
which posed a bit of a problem. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
The Prime Minister was away, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
the Foreign Secretary was in hospital, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
and the Chancellor of the Exchequer was ill as well. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
A Cabinet meeting was held, rather a second 11. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
There were two possible courses, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
one was to send a protest to this uncivilised diplomatic behaviour, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and the other was to ignore it. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
We gave what was essentially a negative reply. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
And the reply was somewhat delayed, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
partly on account of the ministerial situation | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
and partly because it was a very serious matter. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Europe didn't wait for Britain to jump aboard, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
France, Germany and four other founder countries | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
went full steam ahead, leaving us behind. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Monnet made it clear to us, he said, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
"We must have Britain. You can't build Europe without Britain. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
"But you will not get the British unless you first create facts. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
"Britain," he always used to say, "will never act on a hypothesis, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
"it will only act on facts." | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
We came out of the war with the fact, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
although to some extent an illusion, of being a victor state. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
We had so many other interests worldwide. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
So I think it's not surprising that we didn't go barging in. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
And I'm rather surprised that we've gone in as far as we have. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
That fateful decision, taken in a rush by a group of junior ministers, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
was only the first of many | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
on which British politicians decided we were different. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
We could sit things out, we could wait for it all to go wrong. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
The result was that the rules of the European club | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
were drawn up to suit them and not us. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
That's something that has bedevilled Britain's relationship with Europe ever since. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
Britain's problem with Europe is that we didn't invent it | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
and weren't there at the origin. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
And as a result of that, we've always felt that Europe | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
was something kind of done to us | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
and something that we were always...somewhat on the fringe of. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
MUSIC: Chorus Of The Hebrew Slaves by Verdi | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Britain was to get a second chance | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
as a result of what happened on the fringe at the other side of Europe. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
Messina on the island of Sicily | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
now boasts of being the birthplace of a united Europe. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Back in 1955, it played host to the ministers | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
of the European coal and steel community, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
who dreamt of doing so much more. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
They wanted to fuse their economies into a common market, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
to create common European institutions | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
to harmonise their social policies. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
We thought it was little more than a dream. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
People didn't really believe that Europe | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
was going to be a going concern, I remember it so well, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
because Europe had made a hash of things so often. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
The story is that the government had said | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
that Messina was too outlandish a place to send a British civil servant to. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
Whether that's true or not, I can't tell you, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
but that was certainly the feeling in those days... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
that Britain was outside. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
Britain did choose to stay on the outside | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
when invited to further talks in Brussels | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
about how to turn the Messina dream into reality. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
We could have had the leadership of Europe on our own terms, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
if we'd started a little bit earlier, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
but we didn't and we missed the bus. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
There was this yearning for British leadership. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Every time they dreamed up something, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
in the famous words of Mrs Thatcher, we said, "No, no, no!" | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
And we wouldn't have anything to do with it. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
And this was one of the reasons | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
why I begged to go to those early discussions. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
Rather than sending a senior minister, or indeed any minister, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
we sent Mr Russell Bretherton, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
a middle-ranking official from the Board of Trade. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
His contributions to discussions were mainly giving the impression | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
that he was trying to sow doubt about what we were doing. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
Asking questions such as, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
"You do not really believe that a customs union | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
"would be possible among countries like you?" | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
And, "You do not really believe that it would ever be possible | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
"to create a common agricultural market?" I mean, that sort of contribution. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
He was sucking a pipe most of the time, but... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
And looking at us | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
like he was a teacher of a naughty class of children. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
He bowed out, on instructions from London, of course, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
saying that London thought that they knew now enough | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
about what the validity was of the proposal, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
that he had come to the conclusion that it would never work | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
and that, therefore, there was no sense in him wasting any more time and energy. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
We didn't bother about it, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
because he had not been playing a very active role. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
And we thought maybe he'd come back tomorrow, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
but he didn't come back and we never saw him again. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
MUSIC: Chorus Of The Hebrew Slaves by Verdi | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Once again, the six went ahead without Britain. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
In 1957, they signed the Treaty of Rome | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
to create the European Economic Community | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
on what was the seat of power in Ancient Rome. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
This was no mere common market. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
The moment of emotion was the day we signed the treaty in Rome. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
There is what's left of the Roman Empire | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
and we all felt that we all belonged | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
to the same cult of the same civilisation. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
We felt very strongly to be home. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
One young German MP, who would go on to lead his country, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
was so dismayed by Britain's absence | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
that he couldn't bring himself to vote to ratify the treaty. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Britain was not in it and I thought this was a major mistake. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
I was a convinced European, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
but if Britain was not a member, I thought it would go wrong, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
and, therefore, I did abstain. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
'For thousands of years, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
'frontiers have dominated the life of continental Europe. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
'And at the frontier most things come to a stop. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
'And now this age-old system is being changed.' | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
This is where many of today's arguments | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
about freedom of movement and free trade began. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Back in the 1950s, you had to queue up at customs, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
have your passport checked every time you drove across the border | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
between continental countries. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Lorries had to wait for hours at a time. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
The big idea enshrined in the Treaty of Rome | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
was that citizens of the new European club | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
should be free, not just to buy and sell and shift money across frontiers, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
but to move freely as well. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
'In the Common Market the barriers are gradually coming down, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
'the barriers to trade, the barriers to the free movement...' | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Western Europe began to recover from the war faster than anyone had expected. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
'And Europe is on the way to unity on the trade winds of change. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
'At the speed she's going, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
'the European Community will be rid of all artificial barriers to trade by 1970.' | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
But Britain was in no rush to change the old ways. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
We had a new Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
who embodied British ambivalence to Europe. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
He'd served in Churchill's wartime government | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and built a close relationship with the leader of the Free French, General de Gaulle. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
But Macmillan had become alarmed | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
by the rapid economic growth of Western Europe, particularly Germany. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
He reckoned at first that Britain could only score | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
if we knobbled Europe's new club. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Macmillan was completely hostile. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
He said, "You're going to ruin our trade. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
"This is the end of our trade. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
"We cannot accept that. And I'm going to fight you." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Macmillan wasn't to fight for very long, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
he was to lead the country through an extraordinary U-turn in its attitude to Europe. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
Why is revealed in these government papers, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
held in the National Archives at Kew. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
In a memo written before the Common Market was formed, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
before Macmillan was Prime Minister, he writes, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
"It may be very dangerous to us. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
"For perhaps Messina," those talks that set up the Common Market, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
"will come off after all and that will mean Western Europe dominated in fact by Germany, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
"and used as an instrument for the revival of German power through economic means. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
"It is really giving them on a plate what we fought two wars to prevent." | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
He signs off, "I don't want this matter to slide. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
"I believe it may be one of the most difficult | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
"that we have to deal with in the next few years. HM." | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
HM was eventually to conclude that if you can't beat them, join them. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
The change itself came enormously suddenly. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
The ground had been shifting below, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
but the buildings had not shifted on top. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
And suddenly, in June 1960, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Macmillan circulated to Cabinet colleagues | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
a note asking for their departments' views | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
about the advantages and the disadvantages | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
of joining the Community. And, I think, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
to most people in Whitehall this struck like a thunderbolt. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
'Goodbye, England. You wave and you're off for the day, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
'off to the continent for a day of wine and wonders | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
'and back in time for a goodnight cup of cocoa.' | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Soon British diplomats were waving goodbye to England, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
popping over to the Continent to get negotiating. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
'There'll be land ahoy. A foreign land, France, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
'yet so close to our own country | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
'that a passport really does seem a most absurd formality.' | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
The minister Macmillan put in charge | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
would become the leading man in Britain's European drama. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
His name was Edward Heath. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
His challenge, to find ways to bring the British economy | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
and British trade into line with the rules of the Common Market, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
which we'd had no part in writing. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
That meant ending the special deals we'd had with the Commonwealth. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
He and his team spent 15 long months in Brussels, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
haggling over everything from cars to fish to poultry. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
We couldn't open the windows because the traffic and the trams | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
made too much of a noise outside. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
The atmosphere inside the room, the physical atmosphere, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
was quite appalling. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
You have to remember that in those days, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
probably 50, 60, 70% of the people attending the conference smoked like chimneys. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
And, of those, probably one third smoked cigars. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
And the impact of that on the human frame | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
was at times nearly intolerable. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
'In Brussels, Mr Heath has fashioned for himself a political stature | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
'he's never quite achieved before. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
'People ask if he might not be the next prime minister but one.' | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Macmillan took a back seat whilst Ted Heath took over the driving. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
I was there the whole time. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Any other minister who was invited and hadn't been there, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
and, obviously, couldn't know when he came | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
what the atmosphere was like, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
what things had to be avoided, what things could be pressed. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
And, therefore, in order to avoid any difficulties | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
arising from their position, it was much better I should keep the whole thing under control. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
'The whole future balance of power is being discussed here | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
'in terms of the relative number of eggs laid by hens | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
'in Denmark and France.' | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
There was always friction with the Ministry of Agriculture. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
Ted explained in political terms that the moment of truth had come, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
that the nonsense had got to stop, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
that big concessions had now got to be made. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
And he then said, "Now, what are they?" | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
And he began extracting these concessions, personally, one by one. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:36 | |
On the home front, a battle began for public support, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
a little like today's, a little. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
'This programme is going to be about Britain and Europe. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
'It's one of the great issues of the day. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
'And rightly so, for much depends upon it.' | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
'Why have we entered into these negotiations | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
'with the European Economic Community? | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
'There are powerful political and economic reasons | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
'why we have done so.' | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
It was not said that the Community had no political content | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
but it was argued, and argued very strongly, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
that it was a primarily economic community. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Now, actually, that is not true. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
I think that some of the people who said that knew it was not true. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Opponents of the Common Market argued then, as they do now, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
that being in the European club would undermine our sovereignty. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Leading the charge, Labour leader Hugh Gaitskell. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Europe now became the great party-splitter. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
For we are not just a part of Europe, at least not yet. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
We have a different history. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
We have ties and links which run across the whole world. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
If this is the idea, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
the end of Britain as an independent nation state - | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
I make no apology for repeating it - the end of 1,000 years of history, | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
you may say, "All right, let it end," | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
but, my goodness, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
it's a decision that needs a little care and thought. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
To find that our hero was actually saying that the Common Market | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
represented the end of 1,000 years of British history, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
that our borders were not on the Rhine, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
they were on the Himalayas, and so forth, was a terrible shock. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
I mean, it was actually a kind of personal agony. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I'd had a very long lunch with him in the Garrick Club, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
about two to three weeks beforehand, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
in which we'd tried to reach common ground, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
and we'd gone until about 4.30pm. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Everybody else had gone, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
and he was pacing up and down in the small back room there, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
but the more we talked, the further apart we got, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
so, in that sense, it wasn't a shock to me, except that I... | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
As he made various points of "1,000 years of history", | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
I thought, "Oh, Christ, it's even worse than I thought." | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
It was a Tory, 68-year-old Harold Macmillan, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
who came to see Europe as this country's modern future | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
and asked to be let in. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
First, though, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
he needed to woo France's President Charles de Gaulle, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
to persuade him to say "oui" to Britain joining. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Negotiations in Brussels seemed to be going well, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
but the summit at Rambouillet was to give Macmillan a shock. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
MAN SPEAKS IN FRENCH | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
MUSIC: Milord by Edith Piaf | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
Macmillan's charm offensive had failed. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
De Gaulle spelt out why to his Cabinet, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
in words noted down by his Information Minister. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
# Mais vous pleurez, Milord | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
# Ca, je l'aurais jamais cru... # | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Macmillan didn't actually cry in front of his French hosts | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
but, on the way home, he was in tears. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
He kept de Gaulle's rebuff to himself, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
leaving Heath and his team to soldier on in Brussels. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
# Allez riez, Milord | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
# Allez chantez, Milord... # | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
"No disaster at Rambouillet. It passed off OK." | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
That's the message that we read. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Well, we read it wrong. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
A few days later, de Gaulle went public to | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
"squash" - his word - Britain's Common Market application, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
at an electrifying press conference in Paris. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
800 journalists hung on his every word. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
The mood in the delegation was of fury - | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
fury at the arrogance of the man. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
My reaction was, "This is going to be front page news | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
"in every newspaper in the world." | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
It was like thunder had struck in the room. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
We were all flabbergasted. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Each phrase was a new nail in the coffin of the negotiations | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
and I think only by the end of it did we all realise that this was, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
in fact, tantamount to a veto. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
# Mais vous pleurez, Milord... # | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Macmillan's silent agony at the betrayal by a wartime colleague | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
finally boiled over. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
If there was an objection in principle, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
we should surely have been told so from the start. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
'A staggering blow is dealt to | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
'Western unity in this council hall | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
'in Brussels, when France blackballs Britain from the Common Market.' | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
The formal veto came from de Gaulle's Foreign Minister, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Maurice Couve de Murville, who, only two weeks before, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
had convinced Ted Heath that British entry would not be blocked. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
Couve laid the blame entirely on the British. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
That we were... | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
We refused to accept community disciplines here and there | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
and so on. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:39 | |
You asked about my own reaction. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
I had thought, when we went in there, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
that Couve de Murville was going to have | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
a very embarrassing, difficult passage, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
explaining the inexplicable. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
But, in fact, I felt exceedingly angry as time went by. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
I thought that what he was saying was so outrageous, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
any sympathy I might have had for him quickly evaporated. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Edward Heath, then unbelievably calm, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
took up Couve's points, one by one. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
He didn't say, "This is an outrageous travesty," and so on. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
In judicial fashion, really - | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
the learned, QC-type approach - | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
he destroyed all these arguments, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
pointing out that we had agreed to this. We had agreed to that. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
We had agreed to that. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
He completely demolished Couve's argument. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
The French were very definitely "them" | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
but, on this occasion, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
the other five member states almost became "us". | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
The British delegation got up to go | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
and all the five ministers - | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
not Couve, but the representatives of the other member states - | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
all lined up to congratulate... | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
At least, it's... I say that, and it's a slip of the tongue, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
but it's an interesting slip of the tongue. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Because it was... It was a very warm farewell. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
These hard-nosed, very experienced old hands, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
I was surprised to see so many of them visibly moved, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
and moved to the point of tears. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Do you accept it was a betrayal by the French? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Oui, c'est vrai. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
I can still see Couve de Murville, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
at the far end of the table on the right, back to the window, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
sort of laughing with... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
In retrospect, I think they must have found it acutely embarrassing. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
# Thank God for Englishmen | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
# And not Common Market scum | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
# For why should we be pally with the wogs who started Calais? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
# Old de Gaulle may be ten feet tall and think he's Napoleon | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
# But the French wash every three days on bidets | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
# The Herrenvolk are a standing joke with their shorts and hairy knees | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
# And the poor old Dutch do nothing much | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
# But smell very faintly of cheese | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
# An Italian beau always says hello | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
# With a squeeze of the finger and thumb... # | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Thank you. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
# So thank God for Englishmen | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
# And not Common Market | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
# Not Common Market | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
# Not Common Market scum. # | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
We tend to forget our failures - | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
we forget our humiliations, in the sense it was a humiliation - | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
so it's wiped from the public memory. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Nevertheless, to my mind, it was the moment, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
that day in January 1963, when Britain turned towards Europe. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:54 | |
The United Kingdom had made its decision for Europe. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
From that moment on, whatever the frustrations, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
there could be no going back. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
There's nothing like being barred from a club to make you | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
desperate to join it. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
It took a "non" from the old enemy across the Channel | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
to persuade the British to say yes to Europe, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and Ted Heath, the man thwarted by de Gaulle, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
became obsessed with overturning the French veto. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
He said that our membership of the Common Market would only work | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
with the full-hearted consent of Parliament and people - | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
perhaps that's where the trouble began. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
-CHEERING -Our purpose is not to divide | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
but to unite. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
I'm worn out. I've been shopping for six hours. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
What have you bought? | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Nothing. Nothing at all. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
A complete waste of time! | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
-Wicked, isn't it? -Wicked? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
It'll be worse when we join the Common Market. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
That nice Mr Heath would never allow that! | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
HE PLAYS ORGAN | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
That night, Mr Heath was a man of deeply-held passions - | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
for music, for sailing, but, above all, for Europe. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
He wanted to be the maestro who would lead his country | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
into the European ensemble. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
In the 1930s, he'd seen for himself the horrors of Nazi Germany. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
In the war, he took part in the D-Day landings. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
He believed that only a united Europe, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
with Britain at its heart, could prevent another war. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
De Gaulle's successor as French President, Georges Pompidou, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
was ready to listen. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Heath had already struck up a friendship with | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
Pompidou's right-hand man. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Heath asked Winston Churchill's son-in-law, Christopher Soames, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
who was Britain's ambassador to France, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
to open secret talks with Pompidou. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
His task was to prevent another French veto. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
One aspect of it was the astonishing fact that | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
President Pompidou conducted | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
these very important talks without the knowledge of | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
either his own Prime Minister, Chaban-Delmas, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
or his Foreign Secretary, Maurice Schumann. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
It seems quite extraordinary, but it was so. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
After six months of talking, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
the two sides were ready for a leaders' summit in Paris, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
its aim, to erase the painful memories of a decade earlier - | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
to convert that French "non" into an enthusiastic "oui". | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
I knew that, to settle all of this, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
it had to be the French President who did it, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
and the only person who could, with the French President, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
was myself as Prime Minister. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
At the Elysee Palace, scene of the vital talks on | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
the Common Market, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
between the French President Monsieur Pompidou | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
and our Prime Minister. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
The talks are regarded as the final make-or-break attempt to | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
get Britain into the European Economic Community. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Ted Heath was a very thorough man, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
and I remember him sitting out, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
and people coming and talking to him | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
about New Zealand butter, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
talking to him about the sterling area, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
talking about the financial arrangements... | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Talking to him so that he really absorbed into himself | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
the detail of the discussion. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Heath hadn't just mastered the detail - | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
a man often seen as stiff and icy switched on his biggest smile. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
He'd cooked up a plan to win over French hearts | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
by appealing to their stomachs. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Ambassador Soames, a well-known bon viveur, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
invited the President and his wife to leave the presidential palace | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
and join Heath for lunch at the British Embassy instead. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
A good deal would be easy to swallow after a good meal. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
And I remember we had salmon with a mayonnaise... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
with a mint mayonnaise to start with. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Actually, it was a sea trout which had come down from Scotland. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
We had English lamb, I think it was, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
and we had some seriously spectacular wines. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
Which was, I think, a '55 claret and a '35 port, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:07 | |
and I think we had Chateau d'Yquem, with a very exciting sweet. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
All in real Soames style. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Inside the embassy, if there'd been any doubt about the prevailing | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
atmosphere between the two heads of government, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
that was dispelled at once in the way they reacted to each other. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
It seemed to bear out this evening's headline, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
in English, in the Paris newspaper France Soir, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
"Pompidou-Heath Smiling Day." | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
The two leaders returned to the Elysee Palace for | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
a historic press conference, in a room still remembered by many. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
This was the very room in which de Gaulle had pronounced the veto | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
and, when Pompidou made his famous remark, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
"There are those who say that France is determined to exclude Britain, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
"and there are those who say that Britain is... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
"does not have a European vocation, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
"and you see before you two men who are convinced of the contrary"... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
Ils sont convaincus du cointraire. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
..it was a marvellous moment. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
I had no idea he was going to | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
say anything of that kind, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
and, at this moment, I... | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
When I had recovered myself, because I was moved by this, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
I looked at the correspondents | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
and there were many wet eyes in the room. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
Macmillan's tears of pain had been replaced by tears of joy. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
How's it going, Prime Minister? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
The French veto was a thing of the past. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS All that was left to do was to | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
settle those negotiations | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
in Brussels about the little things, like the cost of food and money(!) | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
We were left, simply, at the end, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
with New Zealand dairy products, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
taking cheese and milk together, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
and our contribution to the budgets. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
On the third day of a marathon session, the deal was done. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
The great windows at the end of the council chamber were blood red | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
with the dawn, and people began to clap | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
and we felt that there had been a turning point in history | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
and then the champagne was produced. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Beautiful. Lovely. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
You can turn it into a loving cup... | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Ca commence bien. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
You can have the other side of the glass. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:21 | |
But there were those back home who weren't in love with Europe. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
'Tower Bridge was opened when a mini armada of England's fishermen | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
'sailed their boats up the Thames to protest against the | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
'government's fishing terms for entering into the Common Market. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
'The men were making the trip upriver because they believe that Mr Rippon, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
'Britain's chief Common Market negotiator, is selling them down the river.' | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
It all went very well. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
I mean, there was general approval of what had been achieved. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Obviously, critics were still saying we'd given away too much, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
but the general impression was that it was all right. It was virtually over. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
Far from it. Getting a deal in Europe is one thing, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
getting a deal in the House of Commons is quite another. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
A Prime Minister faced with a divided party simply needs | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
the votes of MPs in other parties. Sound familiar? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Ted Heath in the '70s faced the same problem as David Cameron does today. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
He, too, faced accusations of using tricks and ruses. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
The first of which was to say to Tory MPs, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
you can vote how you like on Europe. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
His real intention was to reach out to Labour's pro-Europeans | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
to tell them - vote with your conscience, vote with me. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
It was a plan dreamt up just down the road in Downing Street, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
by the Tory Chief Whip Francis Pym. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
Our overall majority in the Commons was only 25 | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
and we had something like 18 determined anti-marketeers, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
so that our majority on this issue, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
if the Labour Party were united against us, was clearly extremely vulnerable. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
But the Labour Party was split. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
While most of its MPs were anti, some of its senior figures | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
were passionately devoted to the cause of taking Britain into Europe. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
It is an opportunity which offers great benefits for us | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
and great benefits for Europe as a whole. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
Harold Wilson, Labour's leader, did what so many have done over the years, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
he fudged and waffled and played for time. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
I'm not going to say we should go in whatever the terms, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
I'm not going to say we should stay out. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
We must wait for the terms. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
But once the terms were known, Wilson had to come off the fence. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
In fact, he was pushed off it by a speech given by his own | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Shadow Foreign Secretary James Callaghan. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
If we have to prove our Europeanism by accepting that French is the | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
dominant language in the Community, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
then my answer is quite clear | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
and I will say it in French in order to prevent any misunderstanding. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
Non. Merci beaucoup. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
But it was Heath who had the last laugh. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
'The great Parliamentary debate on Europe was fought for six days | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
'on the floor of the House. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
'Many MPs have described it as the greatest debate in Britain's | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
'parliamentary history.' | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
Dozens of Labour MPs broke ranks with their leader, voting with | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
a Tory prime minister, and their consciences, to say yes to Europe. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:24 | |
We watched, sort of, hawk-like as each person broke away | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
and came into the lobby and everybody was being watched | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
very closely to see what way they went and how they voted. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
But we had a sense, almost, I think, of solidarity that made it | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
actually quite hard not to vote in the yes lobby. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
And then the tellers came in | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
and this enormous majority was announced. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Mainly because Roy Jenkins had had the courage to lead 68 Labour MPs | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
into the Ayes lobby to vote for it. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
And there was pandemonium on the Labour benches. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
RAUCOUS SHOUTING | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
It's one of the few times, I think ever, I've heard | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
in the House of Commons bad language being used. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
You know, it's not the kind of thing you normally do. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
But bad language was used that night! | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
I remember someone crying out at Roy Jenkins, "Fascist bastard." | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
It was an ugly moment. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
There were one or two - how should I put it? - disobliging remarks. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
'The parliamentary vote was in favour of joining the six | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
'with a majority of 112 for the government.' | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
To celebrate, Harold Macmillan, the man who the French had snubbed, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
lit a bonfire on the white cliffs of Dover. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
Just as they'd done in Churchill's day to celebrate victory in Europe. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
Heath headed to Brussels to sign the treaty which would bind | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
the UK into the European Economic community. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
It created quite a splash. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
Well, I remember, you know, we marched into the great gathering, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
when somebody threw a bottle of ink over Ted Heath. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
Most unfortunate - not normal ink, but Indian ink, black and sticky - | 0:47:02 | 0:47:07 | |
very accurately by a German lady. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
Mr Heath was thrust into a lift and somebody pressed a button | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
and he disappeared. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
It's almost unbelievable, but it took about quarter of an hour to find him. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
The problem was, to clean up the Prime Minister. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
The ink had gone over his head as well, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
in his hair and one side of his face | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
and it was very difficult to shift. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
An hour behind schedule, Heath arrived to sign the treaty. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
He was well aware that before it could become law, he would face | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
many more hours of parliamentary debates and manoeuvres. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
At least he knew that his young, loyal MPs were sharing in the celebrations. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
I supported Ted Heath | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
and I supported him wholeheartedly... | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
..in the eventual signing of the treaty. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Well, we can all be foolish in our youth. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
It's much better to be foolish in your youth | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
and discover wisdom in your old age than the other way around! | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
But there were others on the Tory benches who saw the whole | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
European adventure as not just foolish but a threat. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
Enoch Powell had backed Heath's efforts to get us in in the 1960s. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
Now, though, he savaged the Prime Minister for betraying his nation. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
I do not believe | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
that this nation, which has maintained and defended | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
its independence for 1,000 years, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
will now submit to see it merged or lost. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:47 | |
Nor did I become a member | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
of our sovereign parliament in order to consent | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
to that sovereignty being abated or transferred. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:02 | |
Heath believed that by sharing sovereignty in Europe, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Britain's influence in the world would grow. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
But he knew Powell and his small band of supporters could link up with Labour. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
They could wreck the legislation required to enshrine | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
the treaty in British law. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
So, he kept the European Communities Bill very short. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
It may have been far-reaching, but it had just 12 clauses, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
making the wreckers' job harder. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
The simplicity of the bill overwhelmed all that saw it. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
I think the government was as delighted with it | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
as the opposition was horrified by it. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
But of course we can stop them. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
The mountain of legislation required for that purpose can be held up | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
in Parliament until we get what British democracy requires - | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
the right to choose. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:57 | |
The opposition had thought that it might be a 1,000 clause bill. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
Of course, but they were wrong... | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
..and those who were opposed to it, like Michael Foot, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
wanted to have the greatest possible excuse for holding up the whole | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
thing for years and wrecking it. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
That's why they demanded 1,000 clauses. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
There was no justification for it. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
Now all that was needed was to make sure that Tory MPs stayed loyal, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
another job for the party whips. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
Those who would support the government through thick and thin, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
because they were Europeans in their outlook, we called "the robust". | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
And we indicated them on our daily list with a blue sign, a blue tick. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
On the other extreme, would be those who we could never persuade | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
and they would have some good reasons, some bad reasons | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
for voting against the government and we gave them the | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
collective title of "the shits" | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
and we marked them off with a brown pencil. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
And then in the middle, there was a larger group than the others, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
which we called "the wets". | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
And it was a term, in fact, invented by the then Chief Whip Francis Pym. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
Any loss of a vote or any setback | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
in the course of this passage was a blow to the whole | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
standing of the government and the whole position. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
So, the stakes just could not have been higher. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
But with anti-Common Market demonstrators on the streets, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
accusing Heath of betraying Britain, he needed every vote he could get. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
Pro-Market Labour rebels didn't have the nerve to keep | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
defying their party en bloc. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
So, Heath's party managers had one more ruse, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
they did secret deals with sympathetic Labour MPs. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
The Labour Party knew, and those pro-Europeans in the Labour Party | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
knew, that I wasn't asking for anything excessive | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
but I had my back to the wall and when we needed a bit of help, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
they provided it and they knew we were not asking for anything excessive. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
We always knew and the whips knew, that if they were wanted, they would come. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
How did you know that? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:15 | |
In the usual way. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
A secret back channel was arranged between the government | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
and pro-Common Market Labour MPs. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
For years afterwards, those in the know still didn't want to talk openly about it. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
There was no collusion in which I was involved, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
but the government was never defeated. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
I think I was, sort of, kept away from anything like that. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
People disappeared, they went to films, they just didn't show up and so forth. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
There was quite a bit of quiet understanding that there were | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
certain amendments where it was better for people to just find | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
themselves speaking at a meeting in Little Gainsborough or something | 0:52:55 | 0:53:00 | |
so that they wouldn't be there. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
Details of the secret channel were kept by a little-known | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Labour backbencher, John Roper, in a big red book. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
Its pages enabled him to guarantee there would be just enough | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
Labour abstentions for Heath's government to win every vote. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:20 | |
The tactic was to try and ensure that we got the bill through, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
but without having a phalanx of 20-25 Labour pro-Europeans | 0:53:23 | 0:53:30 | |
who were abstaining right through the bill. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
I knew the people who I could rely on and I knew others who | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
I could turn to when it was necessary. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
It was a secret, it was a secret arrangement. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
I mean, everybody knew what was happening, how it was happening | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
nobody quite knew, and that seemed to me very satisfactory. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
It was enough to seal Britain's membership of the European Community, now the EU. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:56 | |
It was not enough to silence those dismayed that we'd joined | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
without the full-hearted consent of Parliament and people. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
In Brussels, British residents saw in the New Year with | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
a celebration of the fact that Europe now meant "us", not "them". | 0:54:11 | 0:54:16 | |
'Officially, we became members at midnight local time, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
'but to make doubly sure they kept things going for another hour | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
'until midnight Greenwich Time sounded in London.' | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
I don't think people understood, they didn't care, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
they didn't take any notice of a bill being passed | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
which solemnly renounced the supremacy of | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Parliament in legislation in control of finance and which subordinated | 0:54:35 | 0:54:41 | |
the courts of this country to the courts of the European Community. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
But we were imbued with the idea that we were building something big, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:50 | |
something important for the future of Europe | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
and for the future of the world, and inevitably, there are changes which | 0:54:53 | 0:54:58 | |
come then and that was something, a price which we had to pay. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
It was a coup d'etat by a political class who didn't believe | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
in popular sovereignty, that's what it was, it was a coup d'etat. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
The power was seized by parliamentarians, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
they seized power that didn't belong to them | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
and they used it to take away the rights from those they represented. That's how I saw it. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
Ted was right when they said you can only do a thing like this with | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
the full-hearted consent of the people, but he knew he hadn't got it. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
And this is coming home to roost upon his successors. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
After the long years of haggling and all the politicking, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
all we had to do was hand over our signed membership documents. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
'But even here the ceremony was in a low-key. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
'The letters were accepted by one of the departmental directors general | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
on the 15th floor landing. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
In little more than a year, Britain would be questioning | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
its European membership and as we'll hear in next week's programme, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
planning a referendum very like the one we're having now. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
-Happy New Year. -Happy New Year. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
There was no plan then to give the people their say, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
instead the Queen was escorted by her prime minister | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
to his Fanfare For Europe. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
A grand celebration at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
Europe was now officially us. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
Let us pause to consider the English, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
because every Englishman is convinced of one thing, this - | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
that to be an Englishman is to belong to the most exclusive club | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
there is. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
A club to which benighted bounders of Frenchmen and Germans | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
and Italians et cetera, cannot even aspire to belong, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
because they don't even speak English. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
Behind the scenes, the European dream had already moved on. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
Europe's founders were now contemplating the next step | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
in ever closer union - economic and monetary union. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
In other words, a single currency. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
Even before he celebrated with the Queen, Heath knew things | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
were about to change. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
I was across at Number Ten when the message came in | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
from Pompidou setting the agenda for the meeting | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
and the centrepoint of it was a move towards economic and monetary union, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:28 | |
which Pompidou suggested we should aim at for 1980 | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
and we saw this. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
Heath then came in and read the message and made no comment. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
And then Sir Alec Douglas-Home, the Foreign Secretary, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
also came in - read it - | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
and he looked across at Ted Heath and said, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
"I don't think the House will like this very much, Ted." | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
Is that what Alec Home said? | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
To which Heath said, "But that, Alec, is what it's all about." | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
Hm. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
Well, that's what it WAS about... | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
..and we'd have got it. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
# We've got to get in to get on | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
# You must move ahead or we fall behind | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
# Nothing in life stays the same | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
# We got to get in to get on. # | 0:58:15 | 0:58:21 |