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Northern Ireland has produced more than its fair share of world

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class writers and poets, Nobel laureates and academics.

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They have enriched our culture, examined our history

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and drawn inspiration from the landscape they grew up in.

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But there's one woman, a highly regarded academic,

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writer and poet, whose work helped lay

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the foundations for the success of those who came after her.

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She isn't a household name and her contribution to the arts

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and culture of Northern Ireland has been almost completely forgotten.

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Her name was Nesca Robb.

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In a life that spanned the launching of the Titanic to the

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outbreak of the Troubles,

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she witnessed history in the making, and what she saw

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made her what she described as that anomalous thing, an Ulsterwoman.

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Nesca Robb grew up at Ballyhackamore House in east Belfast,

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the second daughter of a prosperous and influential Belfast family.

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Her father's business, J Robb & Co,

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was a city landmark for over a century.

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But as well as wealth and privilege, Nesca inherited a rich

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streak of independence from her Scots Presbyterian ancestors.

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Nesca Robb didn't court publicity or notoriety.

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I think she often found herself out of step with the society

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she grew up in.

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And yet, she was a trailblazer, so why do we know so little about her?

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My name's Lesley Riddoch, I'm a journalist and broadcaster,

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and as you can hear from my accent, I'm Scottish.

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But until the age of 13, I lived here in east Belfast,

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a stone's throw away from where Nesca Robb grew up.

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I knew nothing about her then, but I'm going to put that right.

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I'm going to find out who she was, what she did

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and why Nesca Robb is a woman worth remembering.

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At the Public Records Office in Belfast,

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local historian Billy McCullough has been researching the Robb

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family and he's discovered

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a treasure trove of long-forgotten photos of Nesca,

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her unpublished autobiography and notebooks full of her poetry.

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If I'm wanting to find out about Nesca Robb, I've got to start here.

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Yes. Anything that I or anybody else knows about Nesca is

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basically contained within these pages.

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There's, I think, part of her autobiography, there's poems.

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There's different aspects of her life in each of the sections.

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The very last section of them that we looked at were the poetry books.

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And when you started looking in here, you didn't expect, did you, to

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find this kind of literary heritage, tucked away amongst all the annals?

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No. I wouldn't have gotten anything out of them

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that would have enhanced my history of the family,

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but they cover a vast selection of subjects

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and she did issue two poetry books at a later stage.

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-You've got a right stack of photos. What else is here?

-Well...

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Oh, there she is.

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-She's a chubby wee lass.

-She is a chubby wee lass.

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As she gets older, she never regarded herself as being a beauty.

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-Never. This is her sister, Mabel.

-So there's quite an age gap there.

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It's obviously her before the christening

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at Castlereagh Presbyterian Church. That's obviously a posed picture.

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Only the well-to-do or better class people could have afforded that.

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So, this photo here is Nesca.

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This is at the Ballyhackamore House, is it?

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That is correct, yes, this particular photograph is the only

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photograph that I have seen with Nesca's father.

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The pony is called Robin and this is Nesca, I think, at maybe four,

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five years of age.

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Strandtown Primary, my old school.

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100 years ago, Nesca Robb lived just down the road.

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In fact, the connections between us are almost scary.

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We grew up in the same part of town, walked the same streets,

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went to a Presbyterian Church, had Scottish links,

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went to the same university in England.

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To me, this school hasn't changed one iota.

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But to Nesca, the whole area would be completely unrecognisable.

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Then, Ballyhackamore had only just been

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incorporated into the city of Belfast.

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And was home to many of its wealthy merchants and businessmen.

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Nesca's family home no longer exists,

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but I'd like to see where it was.

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Well, I know Nesca's house was down here, number 44,

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but actually, CS Lewis lived on this corner.

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Well, this is Nesca's house, Ballyhackamore House, in 1910,

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and I think it was here.

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Just right there, where those houses are now.

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Ballyhackamore House was more than bricks and mortar to Nesca.

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It was the place where she was happier

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than at any other time in her life.

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Nesca was growing up at a time of enormous change.

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Belfast was growing rapidly and from a very early age,

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she was fascinated by life beyond the garden gate.

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I love her description of the tram journey into Belfast, past rows of

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precise, identical red brick houses and on across the Albert Bridge.

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The way she writes about shipyard workers steaming

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home from work like a river in space

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and mill girls with black shawls folded nun-like

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round their faces, filling the air with high-pitched talk and laughter.

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She wrote of a winter evening

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when the early dusk seemed to brim the streets like floodwater,

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the lamp lighters like uncouth pantomime fairies,

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with star-topped wands, touched lamps into blurs of gold,

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suffusing the foggy air with fugitive melting blue.

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And she describes how the city fed her imagination.

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A vast kaleidoscope, filled with a shifting human pattern.

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It made me irrevocably its child.

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Time and again in her writing, Nesca returns to the subject of place,

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of how she feels shaped by the city and the hills around Belfast.

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And she lived through some of the most significant

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events in its history.

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Remembering the collective pride people

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felt at the launching of the city's most famous ship, she writes,

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"Half the town seemed to be there, packing the riverside,

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"for Belfast took a proprietary interest in its ships

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"and this was our masterpiece of design and skill,

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"the largest liner in the world, the Titanic."

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Years later, Nesca wondered if the fate that befell the Titanic was an

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omen of things to come, of political unrest in Ireland and war in Europe.

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In her memoirs, she recalls, "Those were unquiet days in Ireland.

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"Whenever my elders got together, the talk was of the threatened

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"Home Rule Bill and of ways and means of resisting it."

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Nesca, in her memory of all of this, is very excited about the prospect.

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What was the atmosphere like in Belfast at that time?

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It certainly was a period of feverish excitement in Ireland.

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It was THE topic of conversation at every meal.

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It was something that dominated the newspaper headlines,

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something that dominated the public discourse.

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During the period of the third Home Rule crisis, we see mass rallies

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being organised, demonstrations vehemently denouncing Home Rule.

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With the organisation of the Ulster Volunteer Force in January 1913,

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we have a sustained campaign against Home Rule.

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What was the Robbs' take then on all of this?

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Well, the Robbs, like many people from a similar background, were

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vehemently opposed to the idea of a devolved parliament in Dublin.

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They were concerned that the parliament would be ruled

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over by the Catholic Church

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and they were fearful for their own civil and religious liberties.

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They were also fearful for the economic position of Ulster.

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Ulster had become wealthy in the course of the 19th century,

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Belfast in particular was growing at an astronomical rate.

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It was very much a city that was trading with many

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parts of the world.

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And the Robbs were among that Presbyterian middle class

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merchant class,

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who had done extremely well in the course of the 19th century

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and early 20th century

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and they were fearful that this would be undermined by Home Rule.

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Nesca talks about waking up one morning to discover her own

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family have been involved in what appears to be gun running.

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What was that all about?

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Well, the Ulster Volunteer Force needed weapons.

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The Ulster Unionist leadership arranged to have guns

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brought from Germany and landed, particularly at Larne,

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but also at Donaghadee and Bangor, in April 1914.

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There is some debate as to just how much was brought in at that

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time, but you see figures of 25,000 guns

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and three million rounds of ammunition.

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The guns are landed, from Larne and other distribution points,

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they are taken out across the province of Ulster.

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In a sense, the authorities turn a blind eye to it.

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One of Nesca's cousins was a dispatch rider with the UVF

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and her father provided support for his staff

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when they helped unload the cargo of guns in April 1914.

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For Nesca, as a young girl, I mean, she would have been just

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on the eve of her ninth birthday at the time of the gun running.

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And so it would have been a formative experience for her.

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I mean, something that she was extremely

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conscious of growing up in that household,

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in which they were fearful of Home Rule,

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they were concerned about what the implications it would have

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had for their family and for their economic and social position.

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And so it does leave a deep, deep impression on her

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and it does help to shape her thinking of her

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distinctiveness as an Ulsterwoman,

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so distinctive from the rest of Ireland,

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but even distinctive from the peoples across the British

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Isles, that the people of Ulster are separate people.

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But the threat of civil war

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and Home Rule was interrupted by the outbreak of the First World War.

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Nesca recalls, "From an upstairs window in the warehouse,

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"we were to watch the division's farewell parade through

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"the centre of Belfast.

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"Sir Edward himself was there to see them off.

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"And I nearly toppled headlong in my eagerness to see and hear him."

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As the world around her busied itself with the war effort,

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Nesca entered Richmond Lodge School For Girls.

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But having been educated by a governess till she was 10,

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she found it hard to fit in.

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She was teased for her lisp and for having the wrong kind of shoes.

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"Sometimes," she says, "nobody would speak to me, at others,

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"they would only speak in insults."

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Nesca found solace in books.

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And by her mid-teens, she'd begun writing poetry.

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Her inspiration came from the landscape of the Castlereagh hills and the Ards Peninsula.

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And she drew on the words and language of the people who lived there.

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English lecturer Kathryn White has been studying Nesca's

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poetry and where it fits into the Ulster Scots tradition.

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When you look at Nesca and think about, sort of, her story,

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erm, she was very influenced by her Presbyterian grandmother.

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She describes herself as being Scots to the marrow.

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And when you think even about her roots, her family,

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her ancestors were from the clan of MacFarlane,

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who came over, and round about the 1620s, settled in Bangor

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before eventually moving to the Castlereagh Hills.

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So, that influence was very much there.

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Nesca writes in standard English and she writes in Ulster Scots.

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Is there any kind of rationale for what she writes when?

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Yes, and I think it's interesting that she sort of goes between,

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actually, the two languages.

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But she turns to Ulster Scots and to the language, I suppose, of her

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grandmother and her ancestors, when she has something important to say.

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You can see this in a poem like Wishin', where Nesca

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writes of an old man longing for home.

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"All that's worth learnin', I got as a lump of a waen,

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"In the loanins an' boglands an' fields."

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So, the idea that she uses Ulster Scots

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when she's writing about important points or important

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periods of her life,

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says a lot about what she thought of the language.

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And that she thought Ulster Scots could perhaps express

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something that couldn't be expressed in standard English.

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"That there's no good in wishin's a thing that we all hae to learn,

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"And it's no kind o' job for a man for to yammer an' girn.

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"But the whins'll be out in the loanin and scentin' the air,

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"And the lark mad wi' singin' o'erhead

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"And I wisht I was there."

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She says herself in her early poems, which she

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was writing when she was very young, that she was sort of

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experimenting as well with this sense of

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the regional and the local.

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And she describes her early poetry as a private indulgence.

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Nesca's writing and her academic ability hadn't gone unnoticed

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at school, where she was encouraged

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to take the entrance exam for Oxford.

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This was a time when few girls went to university.

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As she said herself, "If a girl passed senior intermediate, she was branded clever.

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"If she wished to go further, she was apt to be regarded as a freak."

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Nesca's family were very supportive of her plans.

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But in 1922, her home life was torn apart, as first her sister,

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and then her mother, fell ill.

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I'm looking through Nesca's notes of 1922.

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She never included these in her autobiography.

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And they're very hard to make out,

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scribbled almost in some great haste.

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But I see in March, 1922,

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she records the death of her mother after a long illness.

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She says, "Of the events of that day, most have vanished.

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"But a few are as clear as yesterday.

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"My father weeping speechlessly while holding me in his arms."

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The loss of her mother, from whom she had inherited her

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love of literature, was a terrible blow to Nesca.

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But worse was to come.

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And here, in July, she recalls,

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"Auntie Katie entered with a troubled face.

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"'Nesca,' she said painfully, 'it's your father. He's gone.'"

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Just four months after burying his wife,

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Charles Robb died suddenly of a heart attack.

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The two girls are alone, Mabel and Nesca.

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They are in St Leonards-on-Sea, a resort on the south coast

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of England, where Mabel is recuperating.

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Nesca recalls that she went out for a walk

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and was greeted on her return by the hotel manager.

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He says, "I'm very sorry, Miss Robb, but your sister..."

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There was no need for him to say more.

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So, in nine short months,

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the three most important people to Nesca have died.

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What an incredible loss in one so young.

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She was just 17 and now all on her own.

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Little over a year later, Nesca left Belfast to study modern languages

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at Somerville College, Oxford.

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It's strange retracing Nesca's footsteps, how often her world

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and mine cross over, first in Belfast and now in Oxford,

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where I went to university too.

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I've come here to meet college archivist Anne Manuel.

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She's discovered that in the archives of another student,

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Margaret Mann Phillips, there are dozens of letters

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and photographs relating to Nesca.

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She met Margaret Phillips in their Hilary term,

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which is the second term of college.

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And it was after that that I think she then started

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to settle into Oxford and make some more friends.

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There was a rather poignant story, actually,

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of when she met Margaret Mann for the first time,

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when they started to become really quite close,

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and it obviously meant a lot to Margaret as well,

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because she's written about it,

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and she talks about before she really got to know Nesca, what her

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impression was, that she was rather, erm...

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aloof, I think, and separate,

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and certainly that's what her contemporaries thought as well.

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So she writes, "In common room and dining hall, they had seen

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"each other and Margaret had once told another girl

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"in their year that she was asking Nesca to come for a walk,

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"at which the contemporary had replied, caustically,

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"you might have a more congenial companion."

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-Right.

-Which is a little bit rude!

-Yes.

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"This remark showed the attitude of most of the year towards

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"the silent Irish girl, whose reserve, awkward figure

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"too mature for her years

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"and suspected intellectual power kept the others away."

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She was a dark horse,

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so she must have felt very alone, I think, in a strange country,

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a strange environment, and with people thinking

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-that she was, somehow, a bit different.

-Yes.

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But Margaret took to the standoffish Irish girl,

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who confided in her about the loss of her family.

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The floodgates opened, she wept and wept,

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they comforted each other for quite a long time,

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and from that point on, they were the best of friends

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and I think, from there, Nesca felt she had somebody to talk to,

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and share her feelings and thoughts and spirituality,

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I think this was a very spiritual time

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for both Margaret and for Nesca.

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That really is striking,

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because we know that she has had such a terrible time

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before she came to Oxford,

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with her mother, father, sister dying one after the other,

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and she's... There's no evidence of that in a lot of her formal writing,

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later, about her time in England,

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but it seems like this is the moment that the dam burst.

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Yes, absolutely. Yes.

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So here are some photographs of her and her friend Margaret Mann.

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It's marvellous, because, actually, this is the first time we've

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-really seen Nesca as a kind of adult woman.

-Mm.

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Up till now, all the pictures of her have been just as a child...

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-As a child, yes.

-..and with all her contemporaries.

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Through Margaret, Nesca made many more good friends at Somerville.

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She's got quite a lot of photographs in here

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of her first few months at Somerville,

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and some of the friends that she made while she was here.

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I think there was a lot of humour in Nesca Robb, actually,

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and her friends obviously saw that, because a lot of these photographs,

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her friends are making odd faces at the cameras or smiling or giggling.

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This was obviously a lovely afternoon

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that several of them had on the river in Oxford.

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Throughout her time at Oxford, Nesca continued to write poetry,

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and the archive contains her published works

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and evidence of how it was received by the literary establishment.

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We have, in the collection, a couple of letters, one from TS Eliot.

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-Really?

-Yes, indeed.

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TS Eliot writes to thank her for the book of poetry that she sent him.

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"It has given me great pleasure and I am much pleased, also,

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"to have your book of poems.

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"I have appreciated the poem about George" -

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not quite sure who George is - "but I should like to add

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"that other of the poems of the book have given me pleasure."

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She was also in correspondence with Walter de la Mare.

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"They have been a great delight to me.

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"If only I mention a few in particular -

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"those on pages eight to 36 -

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"it is not because many others have not been a joy to me,

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"but because I should tire you with too long a list."

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And he even says at the end, look, there,

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"I wonder if you'd do me the kindness

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"of putting my name in your book", so he'd like an inscription.

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-So these are accolades from people that know about poetry.

-Yes.

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That archive was fascinating.

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So much information that sheds a light on Nesca's personality

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so far from home.

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One thing's certain, though - she must have left this college

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a very different woman from the grieving lass that arrived.

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At Somerville, Nesca found friendship and literary endorsement,

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and her PhD on the Italian Renaissance

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became essential reading for Italian scholars.

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But like so many other women,

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she couldn't get a full-time teaching job,

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so, in 1938, Nesca left Oxford for London.

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Within a year, Britain was at war with Germany,

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and eager to play her part, Nesca joined

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the Women's Employment Federation, where she specialised in identifying

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and recruiting skilled women for the war effort.

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Once again an eyewitness to history,

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she wrote of her experiences during the Blitz.

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Later published as An Ulsterwoman In England,

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it was well received, and Nesca was invited to join

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the prestigious Royal Society of Literature.

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But the book was as much about her cherished Ulster identity

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as it was about London,

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so perhaps it's unsurprising that, in 1947, Nesca returned to Belfast.

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I've come to Cregagh Glen on the outskirts of east Belfast,

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land that once belonged to the Robb family.

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The council put up this plaque

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as part of the Cregagh Glen Heritage Trail.

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It is the only visible clue to Nesca, her life and her work.

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It's an acknowledgement of Nesca's importance

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as a writer and academic,

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and also of her contribution to the National Trust.

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For when Nesca inherited this land, and Lisnabreeny House,

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from her uncle in 1937, she did something unheard of at that time -

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she donated it to the National Trust.

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Lisnabreeny was one of the Trust's very first acquisitions here,

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and one of its most important.

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But it was the income it derived from renting out the land

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at Lisnabreeny that kept the Trust afloat in its early years.

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Without it, we might not have the stately homes

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and Areas of Natural Beauty

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we associate with the National Trust today.

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Nesca joined the National Trust Committee on her return to Belfast

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and became a prominent figure in the arts community,

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promoting Ulster writers and artists here and abroad.

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She was working alongside well-known writers

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John Hewitt and Sam Hanna Bell.

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In fact, it was through John Hewitt that writer Patricia Craig

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first became aware of Nesca.

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I think I was first introduced to her little booklet

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by John Hewitt.

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He thought quite highly of her, and so did I when I read the book,

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which was very humourless.

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There was a lovely bit in one of her poems

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where she has two old country people talking and discussing

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the terrible pass that the world has come to

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and they're saying how disgraceful it is,

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all these young women bathing in July

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and they weren't wearing as much as we'd dust a flute...

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THEY LAUGH

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..which was a nice Ulster expression!

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You've been speaking about Nesca in the same breath

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as some of the luminaries of Northern Irish writing.

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Why was she the one who seemed to be forgotten?

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It was to do with the times, I would say.

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The '50s was male-dominated

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and women had a very hard time trying to get anywhere.

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She had a lot of professions, if you like.

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You know, she was a scholar, she was a historian,

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a poet, a woman of letters, and autobiographer,

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a teacher and committee member,

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and so she didn't really concentrate on any one of these

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to the exclusion of all the others.

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If you try to think of an outstanding woman writer

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of the 1950s, it's just a blank,

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you know, which is why I think, in a way,

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that Nesca Robb might have filled that gap, if she had gone in more

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for self-promotion or if she hadn't tried to do so many things at once.

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So how would you place Nesca Robb's contribution, then,

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to Northern Irish culture?

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I would place her quite highly, actually.

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I mean, she was ahead of her time.

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I wish someone would publish her unpublished autobiography.

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It is so interesting and so good and so well-written

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that it's time that some attention was paid to this woman.

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But by the mid-'50s,

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Nesca was beginning to make a name for herself -

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writing a radio play, books of literary criticism

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and a biography of William III.

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And in a rare interview for the Belfast Telegraph,

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she revealed a little more of her personality.

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She said she "loved all good things in life -

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"friends, music, art and writing...and a good joke."

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She hated "tripe, sweet tea, rhubarb and the bulldozer."

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Nesca continued to work until her death in 1976.

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Nesca Robb was a forthright and interesting woman,

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who contributed across a whole range of the arts in Northern Ireland

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and lived through some of the most momentous years

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in European and Irish history.

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And yet her own reputation here

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seems to have been slightly forgotten,

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and I think that's a mistake,

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because Nesca Robb was, without question, an important woman.

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