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The unprecedented rise of pop music in the 1960s | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
was just one of the many collisions between class and culture | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
that have changed this country in the last hundred years. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
It's an extraordinary story, full of oppositions, exceptions | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and contradictions. A rollercoaster ride. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Inevitably selective through a century. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
This is Wigton in Cumbria. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
A small market town with a couple of factories, it's where I grew up. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
It was a church-dominated town. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
12 of them in this little town alone. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
I sang in the choir here in St Mary's Anglican Church. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Every time I came, I heard magnificent language | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
from the King James Bible and the Book of Common Prayer. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
Outside the church, it was comics and pop songs and socials | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
and dances and outings and gangs | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
and roaming about in the countryside, liberty hall. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
At the Grammar School I was introduced to great literature. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
I acted in plays and I joined the Memphis Five, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
a skiffle group that could have gone all the way. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
There was the Palace Cinema, now a warehouse | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
and then, as now, a thriving amateur theatre. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Both my parents worked in factories in the town | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
and just before I went to grammar school, my dad tenanted this pub. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
We lived in the flat above it. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:13 | |
We were working-class and you don't lose that. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
At that time, it was austere, intelligent, swarted, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
funny and strong. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
Later on, I bolted on the media middle class. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
I'm a class mongrel these days. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Behind me is the House of Lords. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
A hundred years ago, it was occupied by hereditary peers, aristocrats, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
some of whose families had occupied the place for centuries. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
Now, people like me are in the Lords. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
So, does that mean that the ancient class system in this country | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
has finally been turned on its head? Are we all classless now? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
The gains have been immense but have there been losses along the way? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
The working classes were to emerge from a rigid system | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
but did that leave much of their distinct culture | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
as derelict as the old industrial sites? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
In this first programme, we'll see how a middle class | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
determined to hold on to what it possessed | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
despised the working class and its culture. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
And could the upper classes, who once dictated a narrow view of art and taste, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
survive the changes brought about by two World Wars and a depression? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
And in our second programme the lower-middle and working classes | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
were to lead a cultural attack, but did they sweep the old system aside? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
Was the lure of the middle classes so strong | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
that it simply began a cultural takeover? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
And a superclass was emerging. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
The new wealthy, the celebrities, artists among them. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
But also an underclass. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
Even so, in the third programme, I'll be asking | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
is class as we used to know it still with us? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Or is culture, recharged by the ever-growing reach | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
of the middle classes, now more important? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
I'm going to look at the connections between class and culture over the last hundred years. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Everybody has a view on it, this is mine. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
The big ceremonial event in 1911 was the coronation of George V | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
in London in June. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
The Edwardians dearly loved a parade and people joined in | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
up and down the country. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
In 1911, my father's father was a farm labourer, married, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
with a daughter, the first of eight children. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
He would go through World War I and then go down the coal mines. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
My mother's mother was a few years away | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
from a lifetime in domestic service. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Britain's favourite author Rudyard Kipling observed | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and many wanted to believe | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
that the essential note of the thing was the oneness of the people | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
and the ease and intimacy that goes with it. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
There were strains and fears running through society about wages | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
and conditions and taxation. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
Women were beginning to insist on their rights. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
But the famous British class system seemed secure. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:35 | |
I think it's absolutely the moment, 1911, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
when you see the three classes | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
at their brightest and, apparently, most triumphant. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
The rich enjoying an unparalleled extravagance of display. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:52 | |
Huge land-ownings and sense of power. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
And then, in the middle classes, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
the rising of the professions expanding hugely. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Doctors and lawyers and shop owners and so on. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
But most striking of all, in a way, in 1911, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
is the working-class culture, which is at its zenith. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
The trade unions, the non-conformist churches | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and all these other institutions which were created by the working classes. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
All this was at its greatest then. And, yet, in all the cases, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
it was about to crumble or be greatly changed | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
by the First World War and by the social consequences of the War. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Such were the classes, but what of their culture? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Throughout this series I want to ask of each class, what did they own? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
What did they consume? And what did they produce? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Certainly, the upper classes owned plenty of material culture, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
mostly inherited, and built by the labour of social inferiors | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
who were firmly excluded from it. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Centuries of exploitation were transformed into fine houses | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
like this one, Cliveden in Buckinghamshire. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
They owned great gardens, they owned paintings, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
which often recorded family lineage. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
In Edwardian society, as for centuries before, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
rich and titled women sought out fashionable painters. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
And nobody, at that time, was more fashionable than the American | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
John Singer Sargent. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
And this is his portrait of the woman who lived in this house, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Lady Astor. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
Nancy Astor was untypical. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
She was interested in social reform and became the first woman MP. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
But, nonetheless, she was very much a member | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
of the Edwardian aristocracy. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
They inherited, they curated, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
but the Edwardian aristocracy didn't seem to make much. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Once the aristocracy, as a class, had produced art through patronage | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
but now they seemed to quit the field. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
But there was the occasional enthusiastic individual. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Gladys, Marchioness of Ripon, was another forceful upper-class woman, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
also painted by Sargent. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
In Paris, Gladys Ripon had seen the Ballets Russes, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
produced by the impresario Sergei Diaghilev | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
and featuring the gravity-defying Nijinsky, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
drawn here, again, by Sargent. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
Assisted by Thomas Beecham, she brought the company to London | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
and they performed in front of the new King and Queen. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
There was silence. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
There was no applause and Diaghilev thought, "This is a disaster. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
"What is...? What have I done?" | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
And then he looked up | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
and thought there must be a hole in the roof | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
because there was this little pattering sound, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
until somebody said, "No, no, it's not rain at all, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
"it's the audience putting their kid gloves together | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
"and showing their appreciation." | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
The rest of the nation was totally excluded from such experiences. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
A box at Covent Garden cost up to £60,000 a season in modern money. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
Diaghilev's production was radical but the aristocracy, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
so secure in its position, coped with his striking modernity | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
and took it in its stride. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
They had a common code of speech and behaviour and manners and, yes, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:41 | |
they were at ease with each other and inclined to repel borders. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
The insulated aristocratic world of Ladies Ripon and Astor | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
was more fragile than they knew. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Soon, like every other class, they'd be faced with upheaval. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
And what about the middle classes? What did they own? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
What did they produce? What did they consume? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
In this post-Victorian era, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
the middle classes saw themselves as the backbone of the nation. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
While they paid deference to the upper class, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
they disapproved of their frivolity. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
They liked to improve themselves. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
They liked concerts, music, especially Gilbert and Sullivan. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
They liked the theatre. Perhaps, above all, they liked novels, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
especially big, class-bound books | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
by Galsworthy, Arnold Bennett, Thomas Hardy and others. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
A best-selling author of his day | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
and, for many, the voice of the time was Rudyard Kipling. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
He lived here in Bateman's in Sussex. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
By now, Kipling had written The Jungle Book, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
the Just So Stories, Kim and much of his poetry, including Gunga Din. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
This is Rudyard Kipling's study. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
A fitting study for a great imperial writer. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Kipling's books were enjoyed across the classes. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
And Kipling himself, unlike many other writers of the time, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
was idealistic about people in this country, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
from whatever background, getting on together. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Kipling wanted the British, I think, to be one class, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
above the class system. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
He did that in his novels | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
but there's one piece he wrote which shows it most of all. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
It shows aristocratic confidence, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
what became the middle-class stiff upper lip | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
and working-class grit, all in one place. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
If. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
"If you can keep your head when all about you | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
"Are losing theirs and blaming it on you." | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
"If you can think and not make thoughts your aim | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
"If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
"And treat those two impostors just the same." | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
"If you can fill the unforgiving minute | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
"With sixty seconds' worth of distance run | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
"Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
"And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!" | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
The success of that poem was quite extraordinary. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It was hung in schools and homes and barracks and messes | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
throughout the world. It was translated into 27 languages. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
When Ernest Shackleton went to the Antarctic, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
he framed it and put it on the bulkhead of Endurance. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Kipling created a vision of Englishness | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
which he wanted all classes to share in, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
whether at the far reaches of empire or in a garden in Sussex. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
That vision of the classes in harmony was to recur | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
in the two World Wars but, always, it was temporary and ephemeral. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
There was another novelist who saw that age | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
just as clearly as Kipling but from a different aspect. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
He was born into fuzzy territory, this upper-working-class, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
lower-middle-class family. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
He was born here, in Bromley High Street in 1866. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
HG Wells. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Looking back on his young self, Wells would write that, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
"He's an individual | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
"becoming the conscious, common man of his time and culture." | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
His early experiences were similar to many of those struggling | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
to keep a foothold in the middle class | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
and not slip into what, they feared, was the abyss beneath them. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
His parents had run a dry-goods shop in Bromley and they'd gone bust. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
HG Wells would use that experience | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
when he came to write his novel Kipps - The Story Of A Simple Soul, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
about a draper's assistant | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
who comes into money and goes up a notch or two and is all at sea. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
He doesn't know what to do, this is a new culture. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
He seeks help, he wants the particulars. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Kipps's misadventures were hugely popular | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and the book was, later, turned into a film, starring Michael Redgrave, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
which caught the social vulnerability | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
of the innocent, lower-middle class hero. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
You, erm, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
you really think I could become a gentleman? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
You owe it to your position, my dear Kipps. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
You mean, I ought to get with educated people who know how to do things properly? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
So, say, if I wanted to call on someone I could know how to behave. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
That and other things. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Being a gentleman is a full-time occupation, I'm afraid. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
I can see that. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Wells had seen social disaster in the fate of his parents. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
He also saw upper-class life | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
when his mother took a job as a housekeeper, here, at Uppark House. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Kipling might paper over the idea of class conflict. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Wells would see only the chasm between the classes. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
He saw the skull beneath the skin. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Wells's views on class are most clearly seen in his science fiction. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:49 | |
But the future Wells predicted for the human race | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
was a dark and bleak one with savage class divisions. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
This mural is in Bromley High Street, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
just across the road from where HG Wells was born. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
And it celebrates Charles Darwin, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
a man who changed the way we look at the world. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
He lived nearby at Down House. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Wells studied evolution under TH Huxley, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
a close disciple of Darwin's. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
And his idea of evolution, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
when it came into contact with his acute consciousness | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
of class divisions, painted a chilling view of our society. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
What it was and what it might become. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
In the book The Time Machine, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
the traveller is transported thousands of years into the future | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
to find that the upper and lower classes have now evolved | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
into virtually different species. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
The sybaritic Eloi living on the surface. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
The industrious and vicious Morlocks labouring beneath it. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
You say of the Elois and Morlocks in The Time Machine of HG Wells, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
you wrote, "Wells sees them as the logical culmination | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
"of existing tendencies." | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
What were those tendencies and do you think he was right? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
It is a very peculiar thing that these great prophets of the future | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
in literature, HG Wells and Aldous Huxley and George Orwell, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
all foresee, foresaw the future as sharply divided by class. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:39 | |
While the politicians were saying, "We're all going to be one big happy family, the class war is over," | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
the writers were saying, "No, no, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
"the tendencies of modern society are to divide people more strongly." | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
I don't know whether you could say they're more prescient | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
or whether it's just a, kind of, they like to, kind of, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
unnerve their readers | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
and say it's not going to be as nice as you think. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
In another novel, The Dream, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
which, again, seesaws between the present and the future, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
he has a drunken, failed shopkeeper tell his pal about the miners. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
"'These 'ere miners are paid and paid 'andsomely,' he said." | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
Sorry about the accent. "'Paid 'andsomely they are. 'Andsomely. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
"'Why, I'd be glad of the pay they get, glad of it. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
"'They 'as bulldogs, they 'as pianos. Champagne. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
"'You and me, Smith, me and you and the middle classes generally, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
"'we don't get pianos. We don't get champagne. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
"'Ought to be a Middle Classes Union,' said my father. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
"'Keep these 'ere workers in their places.'" | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Who were these workers, these failed bogeymen | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
who froze the imagination of the middle class? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Most of the upper and middle class thought the working class | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
had nothing that could be called culture. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
The working classes, what did they own? What did they make? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
What did they consume? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Well, they didn't earn much in material terms. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
But they did earn a sense of themselves as communities | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
and that was underpinned by the common and participating culture | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
they made in music, for a start. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
# Jesu, joy of man's desiring. # | 0:17:31 | 0:17:39 | |
In Wales and across the land, the people sang. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Choirs were a rich seam in working-class culture. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
And there were the brass bands, the orchestras of the working class. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Each colliery and many factories had a band attached. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
And they, like the choirs, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
made no concessions in the quality of the music they played. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
Some of the great composers of the day wrote for them. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Holst, Vaughan Williams and Elgar. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
# Near, far | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
# Wherever you are. # | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
And there was craft. Working men and women made things. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Beautiful things. Whether it was ironwork for a balcony, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
a ceramic pot or intricate marquetry | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
for the inside of an ocean liner. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
# You open the door | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
# And you're here in my heart | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
# And my heart will go on. # | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
And behind this was a network of institutions and associations. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
There were the non-conformist chapels, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
often built by the workers themselves, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
providing a rich culture through religion. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
They set up Sunday schools, there were sports, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
there were reading rooms and the Mechanics' Institute. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
But we shouldn't be too sentimental, there were classes within classes. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
To enjoy the culture I've described, you needed access to community, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
a decent wage and leisure. And not everyone had those. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Two of my great grandmothers were in Middlesbrough, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
bringing up very large families on a very inadequate income. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
The town was very much the iron industry | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
and there was no work for the women, basically. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
The men, if they were unskilled or semi-skilled, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
often reached their maximum earning capacity | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
when they were very young men. And what happened after that, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
they set up house on 23 shillings a week. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
One child after another arrived. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
If the man was injured at work, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
and injuries in the iron industry were extremely frequent, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
the family was very quickly faced with absolute destitution. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
So, when we're talking about culture with regard to the unskilled workers | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
and the lower-skilled workers, what are we talking about? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Why does it feature at all in your description? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Scarcely at all, I'm afraid. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
In the early years of the marriage, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
where I think the children were arriving | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
one a year or one every two years, and money was particularly tight, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
and the woman's health was generally poor, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
I think there was very little going on | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
that most people would call culture. I mean, there was some. I mean, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
I don't really see why neighbourhood talk and gossip | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
should be excluded from culture. There'd be football, perhaps. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
And perhaps a very, very occasional visit to the musical hall. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Though I rather doubt that in some of these families. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
The working class at that time could and did nourish genius. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Thomas Hardy, for instance, and DH Lawrence. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
He was brought up in that mining community, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
the community that we've been talking about. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
And he added to it by going towards culture. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
He read more and more widely | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
and took on an intellectual view of society. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
He painted, he drew. He went to cathedrals and museums. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
He drew in as much as he could from that base. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
But inside that there's always class and an interest in sex | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
and the sexual politics of class and love. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
And the feeling that the world had to be explored | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
from where he started. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Lawrence fused a working-class imagination | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
which would be taken up and fired by young men and women | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
in the cultural revolution of the '50s and '60s. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
In the Great War, men and women of all classes | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
answered the call to serve their country. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
In the response, there seemed to be unanimity across the classes. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
Common purpose. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Private WB Owens spoke for many - | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
he was one of the Liverpool Pals | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
who joined up with a gang of his friends - when he wrote, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
"Well, we're away at last and, though no-one feels, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
"it's a solemn occasion to be in England for perhaps the last time. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
"I think the predominant feeling in every chap's heart, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
"in mine, at any rate, is one of pride and great content | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
"at being chosen to fight and endure for our dear ones | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
"and the whole country." | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
There was common purpose but the class system went to war too. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
Officers could suffer from shell shock, men were shot for cowardice. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
The officers were, on average, five inches taller than the men. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
And the officers had a servant at the front | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
just as they'd had servants at home. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Behind the lines, the officers slept in the farmhouses. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
I'm not saying it was comfortable, but the men slept in the barns if they were lucky | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
and, you know, they were out in the field if they weren't lucky. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
So, the whole thing was completely different. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
But did that intense experience of sharing the danger | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
actually weaken the class system? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
And what culture came out of it? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Officers, many of them upper-class, even aristocratic, were expected to lead from the front. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
And they did and their rate of attrition was terrible. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
While the generals would be vilified, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
many officers, coming into contact with working-class men | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
for the first time, acted with a grace and humanity | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
not always associated with their class. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
This is Second Lieutenant Stephen Hewitt. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
One of his duties was to censor men's letters. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
"Naturally, there are many quietly funny things in the men's letters | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
"which we have to censor. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
"But they often blend with true pathos, courage and nobility. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
"What a lesson it is to read the thoughts of men, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
"often as refined and sensitive as we have been made | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
"by advantage of birth and education, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
"yet living under conditions much harder and more disgusting | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
"than my own." | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
# If you want to find the private I know where he is. # | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
In the ranks, a mordant culture did grow up, expressed in songs, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
cartoons and even trench newspapers. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
# I know where he is | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
# He's hanging on the old barbed wire | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
# I saw him | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
# I saw him. # | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Some men used their peacetime skills while waiting to go over the top. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
They made objects that would later be called trench art. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
And then, there were the recorders and observers from the middle class | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
who were often shaken out of their class loyalties by this experience. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
The middle-class painters and poets set themselves | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
to find and express the deep themes in the horror of the Great War. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
Some of the group of painters who'd studied at the Slade, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
including Stanley Spencer and Paul Nash, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
went to the front as official war artists. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Their former professor Henry Tonks made paintings of wounded faces | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
to assist plastic surgeons. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
In some cases, like Richard Nevinson, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
painters abandoned the new styles they'd picked up such as Vorticism | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
and returned to a simpler, more direct style, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
more in keeping, they thought, with the horrors of war. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
One of the most powerful paintings to come out of the First World War | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
was, rather surprisingly, painted by the fashionable artist | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
John Singer Sargent. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
He left the drawing rooms of London | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and went to the battlefield in France to paint this. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
"If I should die, think only this of me | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
"That there's some corner of a foreign field | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
"That is for ever England." | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Rupert Brooke died of septicaemia in 1915. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
His poem lasted. It came out of an aristocratic, chivalric tradition. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
But there was a new tradition. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
The realism of the middle-class writers | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
who would not conceal their disgust. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
"If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
"Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
"Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
"Of vile incurable sores on innocent tongues | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
"To children ardent for some desperate glory | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
"The old Lie | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
"Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori." | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
Early in the war, the decision was taken not to bring back | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
any bodies from the front. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
Mourning would have to be done at a distance. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Monuments like this by Charles Jagger would have to serve at home. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
One in three of all the men aged between 20 and 24 in 1911 | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
was now dead, including Kipling's son, Jack. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
But had the terrible sacrifices done anything | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
to break down divisions between the classes? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
There was a shifting of the class sands after the Great War | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
but it wasn't a tectonic shift. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
The equality of the trenches and the immense symbolism | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
of the fallen being buried together in the war graves, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
whether they were officers, squaddies, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
non-commissioned officers, was very, very powerful indeed. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
But, once they were demobbed, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
went back into the great industrial bastions of the big cities, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
this huge, manufacturing base that we still had, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
there were the old divisions. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
The Kaiser and the violence of that war | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
brought about an enforced equality but it was temporary. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
It was temporary but nothing was quite the same again. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Religious faith had sapped powerfully, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
never to be restored in terms of church attendance. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Plus, the homes fit for heroes that Lloyd George promised | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
that didn't materialise. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
The returning of unemployment within two, two and half years | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
on a grand scale. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
All this led to a deeply embittered home front | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
to which the soldiers returned. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
There had been changes but great social gaps still remained. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
The one thing every class in the United Kingdom shared | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
in the 1920s was anxiety. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
The upper class had lost sons, brothers, fathers. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
Now they lost land. Hundreds of thousands of acres changed hands | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
as death duties soared. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
The bereaved middle classes, too, faced economic uncertainty. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
They worried that the Revolution in Russia would spread west. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
For the workers, disillusionment with promises made and broken, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
the fear and reality of unemployment. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
This insecurity bred tension and fear between the classes. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
In 1921, the poet TS Eliot used to visit this shelter in Margate. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
He was trying to recover from a nervous breakdown. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
He was also composing the poem The Waste Land | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
which, more than any other, would express the nihilism of the time, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
the very opposite of Kipling. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
"On Margate Sands I can connect | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
"Nothing with nothing | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
"The broken fingernails of dirty hands. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
"My people humble people who expect Nothing." | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
"What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
"Out of this stony rubbish?" | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
That line and a half in The Waste Land from Eliot | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
summed up, for many people, what had happened to this country | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
after the devastations of the First World War. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Eliot was on his way to becoming a naturalised Englishman, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
a high Anglican, at the top of the literary | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
and poetic hierarchy of this country | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
which matched the hierarchy of the classes. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Eliot's first title for this poem | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
was taken from Our Mutual Friend in Dickens, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
He Do The Police In Different Voices, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
and it's full of different voices. Esoteric, literary, philosophical, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
mythological, ravishing for any adolescent of any background | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
who could read, who read it. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
And, at one stage, he attempts, rather patronisingly I think, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
rather superficially even, a working-class conversation. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
"When Lil's husband got demobbed, I said | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
"I didn't mince my words I said to her myself | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
"Hurry up please it's time | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
"Now Albert's coming back, make yourself a bit smart | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
"He'll want to know what you've done with that money he gave you | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
"To get yourself some teeth He did, I was there." | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Eliot himself was middle-class. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
He worked part of his life in a bank and in a publishing company. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
He was a friend of the intellectuals known as the Bloomsbury Set | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
which included Virginia Woolf. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
You quote Virginia Woolf on the Armistice Day celebrations, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
saying, "The London poor with their hideous voices and clothes | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
"and bad teeth make one doubt whether any decent life | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
"will ever be possible. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
"Or whether it matters if we're at war or at peace." | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
I shouldn't imagine that wasn't commonly thought | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
but it was thought, emphatically, by a serious number of intellectuals. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
It's very odd, it seems to be confined to intellectuals, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
particularly intellectuals who regarded themselves | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
as socialists and wanting to see, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
you know, social improvements. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
I can't get to the bottom of it. You know, if you read poetry | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
and novels, particularly the great novels of the mid-19th century, | 0:31:54 | 0:32:00 | |
they're full of sympathy and often respect for the poor. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
Then, suddenly, Modernism appears to carry with it this strange, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
kind of, vicious side and a wish to draw away from the masses | 0:32:10 | 0:32:16 | |
and to regard them as the enemies of civilisation. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:22 | |
The working class was taking a cultural hammering. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Maybe it was fear of their potential strengths. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
In the mid-'20s, the author Warwick Deeping, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
a former doctor and wartime officer, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
wrote a book that spoke for the fearful middle classes | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
and re-voiced that revulsion of the working class | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
expressed by HG Wells. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Sorrell And Son was a blockbuster of the '20s and '30s. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
It went into 41 editions and it was filmed twice. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
A remarkably faithful television series was made in the 1980s. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
The novel, according to one critic, achieved talismanic status | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
among its middle-class and lower-middle-class readers. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
Shall I go to school at Staunton? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
Of course. I expect there'll be a grammar school. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
Will it be a gentleman's school? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Stephen Sorrell had been an officer in the war. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
His wife has left him for a richer man and he can't find a job in London. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
Desperate to care for his son and educate him as a gentleman, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
he finally takes a job well below his class as a hotel porter. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
Sorrell is bitter about the profiteers who sat out the war | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
but he has another target. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
Sorrell and, I presume, Warwick Deeping's real venom | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
is reserved for the working class, who he sees as brutes getting ready for a class war. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
Perhaps this was what made his books so popular. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Kit is the victim of a class-based attack | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
and the author pulls no punches. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
"Sorrell had seen that these sons of working men hated | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
"the son of an ex-officer. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
"They hated his face, his voice, his pride, his very good temper. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
"They hated him for his differences, his innocent superiorities. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
"Hatred, a cheaply educated hatred, was loose in the world." | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
In Sorrell And Son, class issues come to be crystallised | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
around the matter of Kit's education. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
-Would I get cricket at the grammar school? -You would. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
But there's one thing we must face. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
You'd be the son of a porter at the Angel Hotel. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
They might refuse to take you. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
That's my fault, not yours. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Between 1911 and 1947, education was the most powerful motor | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
in shoring up and challenging the class system. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
Between the '20s and '40s, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
successive governments tried to change the state educational system, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
which looked after 75% of the population. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
It was a big job. There were board schools, council schools, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
local-authority-funded schools, church-funded, community-funded. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
No-one argued against the goal of creating a ladder of opportunity | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
but no-one quite knew how to achieve it. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Above the struggle, the public schools sailed on serenely. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
They continued to prepare their pupils for lives in government, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
in empire, the law. Yet, from the middle of the 19th century, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
the time of Tom Brown's Schooldays, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
the public schools had managed to find a place | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
in the public's affections and even in popular culture. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
Greyfriars School and its cheery pupils lead their carefree lives | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
in the comic The Magnet for almost 40 years. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
The debates about reforming state education | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
and what to do with the public schools rumbled on | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
but they would become crucial in the Second World War | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
when people had to decide | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
what sort of society they wanted after that war. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
But it wasn't all dissension and class conflict. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
After the War, everybody wanted to find a place they could have fun. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
In 1919, ragtime raged in from America | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
and there was an explosion in public dancing. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Everybody wanted to do it. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
And they took to the dance floor, the dustman and the duke. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Though, not always the same dance floor. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
The Original Dixieland Jazz Band played a sensational residency | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
at the fashionable Savoy Hotel in London in the same year. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
The first Palais doors opened in Hammersmith | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
and working-class people cascaded onto the floor. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
The working classes, those feral masses, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
turned out to be stylish dancers, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
well-dressed, well-mannered, cultivated. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
The working class was, literally, on the move. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
Upper, middle and lower classes might have found new common ground. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
Ballet and opera might have been exclusive, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
books might have been mainly for the middles, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
but everyone could go dancing. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
And for the next 30 years, dance music and public dancing | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
became popular across the nation. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
It was a great unifier of class. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Everyone, everyone went ballroom dancing. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
It's where probably 90% of people of my age's parents first met. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
It did come in as a great invasion, partly from America, didn't it? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
And the idea of, people had a little bit more money | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and then the clever people built the great ballrooms | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
which are sort of dancing palaces. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
They must have been amazing for people from ordinary backgrounds | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
to go into these, palaces like the great cinema palaces, weren't they? | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Wonderful. Yeah, no, you go into the Empress Ballroom | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
or the Tower Ballroom, Blackpool, and you look up. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
These are people that are probably living in tenements, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
all the buildings around and about | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
and suddenly you're in this most palatial place. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
You have the band, the orchestra. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
You've got a chance to get hold of a girl | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
and smooch around and maybe a slight touching of the bosom. Oh, come on. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
I can see her now, a couple of mates, in we go, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
"Phew, she looks good over there, going to go and... | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
"May I have the pleasure of this dance?" "Of course..." | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Fabulous! Who wouldn't love it? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Do you think it was a class thing | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
that was mostly for working class, lower-middle class, that end? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
My dad, who was a keen ballroom dancer, as I say, met my mum. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
He would say it was mostly the working class. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
You'd finish work and you'd get home and you'd scrub your nails | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
to get them clean and put your best stuff on and off you'd go. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
And he had a regime, as long as the money lasted, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Monday nights he'd be at the Orchid, Purley, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Tuesdays he'd be at the Royal, Tottenham, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Wednesday he'd go to the Hammersmith Palais, and so they'd go. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
-Was there anything left for Friday? -No, no, by then... -Bated breath. -They were skint by then. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
And if you weren't going dancing for your night out, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
you were probably going to the pictures. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
The flicks, the movies, the pictures, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
the other form of popular culture that everybody enjoyed. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
I'm standing at the epicentre of cinema-going in Britain, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
in Churchgate in Bolton. Around me, there were once 47 cinemas. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:29 | |
There was The Royal, The Regal, The Queens. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
We had loads of cinemas in the town. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
What was it like on a Friday and Saturday night when you had all those cinemas here? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Oh, it was fantastic. It was lovely. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
And, they had two houses and there's one early, just after six o'clock, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
and then another after eight. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
So, of course, people'd come for their tea and then go to the show | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
and the people waiting to go to the second show | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
would come and eat and then queue up to go into the Grand or the Theatre. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
This street was the very centre of it. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
This was the equivalent of Bolton's Golden Mile. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
So, you'd have the Grand Theatre behind us, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
the Theatre Royal, the Capital Theatre, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
the Regal right at the end of the street, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
the Hippodrome and the Embassy. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
So, all the way up here would be absolutely chock-a-block with people | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
visiting the cinema. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
And there's not one left in this street now? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
Unfortunately, not one left in the town centre. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
All of them have gone. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Bolton was a mill town. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
People laboured long hours in difficult conditions. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
When they went home it could be to overcrowded, cold, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
uncomfortable houses. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
The picture house was warm, cheap and glamorous. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
Working-class people didn't have a lot of choice in their lives | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
but they could choose what they wanted to enjoy when they weren't working. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
And they wanted to enjoy the cinema. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
And, at the cinema, they wanted to enjoy, most of all, American films. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
For Bolton cinema-goers and working-class audiences | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
around the country, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
the heroes they mostly wanted were cowboys or gangsters. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Dangerous broads rather than society ladies. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
In American films, they found an energy, excitement and, above all, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
a classlessness missing from most of the films made here. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
But the middle classes and the upper classes also went to the cinema. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
Middle-class writers and directors would make the films | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
and the upper classes were besotted by them. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
It was a form of cultural equality. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
From the late '20s, there were new voices available, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
mostly from the wireless. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
These immediately fell into the old, established ways. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
'Leicestershire and Yorkshire at Leicester. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
'Yorkshire 365, Leyland made 153.' | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
In 1932, the British Broadcasting Corporation, funded by all of us | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
through the licence fee, moved into its new headquarters, here, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
at Broadcasting House. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
There was a need for a voice to unify classes and cultures. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
Now there was the institution which could do it. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
But did it do that? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
The BBC's tone came from its Director General, the flinty Scot John Reith, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
whose values were, and appealed to, that solid middle class. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
The BBC was the sound of the Establishment, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
giving the public, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
as he put it, slightly better than it now thinks it likes. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
# The weird sisters, hand in hand. # | 0:42:32 | 0:42:38 | |
Reith's intention was that the BBC should impose culture | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
from the top down. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
It should be, as he said, "Authoritative, impartial | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
"and embody the best in the values of the educated classes." | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
But he never went onto explain why the values of the educated classes | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
should have such national domination. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
That's not to say there weren't programmes for people of every class to enjoy. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
Popular music, for instance, played by the best bands and orchestras | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
was relayed from London's top hotels. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Variety shows soon started, as did coverage of sports. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Yet, despite this spread, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
the BBC, staffed almost exclusively by public school boys, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
was, in its official voice, a narrow, rather than a broad-caster. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
Famously, from 1924, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
radio announcers wore dinner jackets to read the news. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
And, in 1926, an advisory committee on spoken English decreed that, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
"A form of educated English, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
"which would fall within a narrow band of southern English, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
"should be the sound of the BBC." | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
Now we're taking you over to Montreal, where Captain Bisset | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
of the Ascania will describe last week's rescue in Mid-Atlantic. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:55 | |
It would be some years before the BBC would live up | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
to its licence-fee obligation to speak to and for all the nation. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
Two passages from successful novels published in the early '30s in Britain | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
show the difference of experience between the classes. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
The first is from Evelyn Waugh's Vile Bodies. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
"Masked parties, savage parties, Victorian parties, Greek parties, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
"Wild West parties, Russian parties, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
"parties at Oxford where everyone drank brown sherry and smoked Turkish cigarettes. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
"Dull dances in London, comic dances in Scotland | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
"and disgusting dances in Paris. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
"All that succession and repetition of mass humanity. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
"Those vile bodies." | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Waugh was a middle-class writer who'd adopted the upper classes. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
He went on to write Brideshead Revisited. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
Other writers, like the working-class Walter Greenwood, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
were beginning to turn to the plight of those at the bottom of society. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
"Nothing to do with time Nothing to spend | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
"Nothing to do tomorrow or the day after | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
"Nothing to wear, can't get married | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
"A living corpse | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
"A unit of the spectral army of three million lost men." | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
In 1936, the future QC Lord Hutchinson | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
had just left his public school. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
You witnessed the Jarrow March. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
Could you look back and say that had a challenging and an important affect on your life? | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
Yes, an enormous affect. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:38 | |
One's experience | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
as a public school boy living in the South, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
we had no experience of the North at all. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
And the Jarrow marchers going past, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
all with their caps on and their haggard appearance | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
and what they'd gone through made a tremendous impression on me. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
And so, were you seeing another part of the country for the first time? | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
-Yes, really. -The, sort of, hidden nine tenths. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
Yes, exactly. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
I mean, one didn't know about the North. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
I mean, my nanny came from Newcastle in the North | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
and, therefore, I knew a lot from her about how people lived | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
on the Tyne and so on but I never went there, until leaving Oxford. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:27 | |
Events like the Jarrow March forced the nation | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
to look at the kind of lives some of its people were living. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
People who were demanding a better life. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
There'd always been those who'd taken an interest in the lives of the lower classes. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
Now there grew up a new movement, which at times lamented | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
but at times celebrated the life and work | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
of ordinary people. Documentary. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
The documentary film makers wrestled with their bulky equipment | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
to show the dignity of labour, the hardship of life | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
and to give working-class people a voice, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
something the Establishment and BBC, up to that point, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
had largely failed to do. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:05 | |
It gets on your nerves when everything's filthy. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
Dirty, filthy walls and the vermin in the walls is wicked. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
So, I tell you, we're fed up. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
Writers as well as film makers set out to rediscover their own country. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
The novelist and journalist JB Priestley | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
made his English journey, chronicling some of the glories | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and many of the horrors of England in 1933. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Some have regarded these sort of accounts as patronising | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
in their approach. I don't agree. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
There's no doubt that there was the will | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
to help pull the working class up the ladder. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
JB Priestley, already, in the 1930s, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
an enormously successful writer, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
travelled England in his trusty Daimler. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
Another writer, not as well known at the time, came on foot or by bus. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
George Orwell made his way to Wigan. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
We're near the site of the original Wigan Pier. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
It was where they used to load coal onto barges. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
The title came from George Robey, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
the musical artist who used it rather facetiously. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
George Orwell nicked it for his book The Road To Wigan Pier. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
The Road To Wigan Pier was based on Orwell's experiences | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
over January and February 1936. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
And his observations of the realities of working-class life | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
and unemployment have entered the canon of human observation. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
"One scene stays in my mind," he wrote. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
"as one of my pictures of Lancashire. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
"The dumpy, shawled women with their sacking aprons | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
"and their heavy, black clogs, kneeling in the cindery mud | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
"and the bitter wind, searching eagerly for tiny bits of coal." | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
Wigan Pier is about living conditions and unemployment | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
and politics. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:57 | |
But it's also, and perhaps mainly, about class, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
particularly the class of the writer himself. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
An old Etonian, a middle-class writer | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
who tries to work out how he can interact with other classes. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
He spells it out. "Here am I, a typical member of the middle class. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
"It's easy for me to say that I want to get rid of class distinctions | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
"but nearly everything I think and do | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
"is as a result of class distinctions. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
"All my notions, notions of good and evil, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
"of pleasant and unpleasant, of funny and serious, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
"of ugly and beautiful are essentially middle-class notions. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
"My taste in books and food and clothes, my sense of honour, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
"my table manners, my turns of speech, my accent, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
"even the characteristic movements of my body | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
"are the products of a special kind of upbringing | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
"and a special niche about halfway up the social hierarchy. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
"When I grasp this, I grasp that it's no use clapping a proletarian | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
"on the back and telling him that he's as good a man as I am. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
"If I want real contact with him, I have got to make an effort | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
"for which, very likely, I am unprepared." | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
Right at the end of the book, Orwell, rather tongue-in-cheek, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
envisions the sinking middle classes. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
The private school master, the bankrupt commercial traveller | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
and the freelance journalist hitting on hard times. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
All of them "sinking into the working class", he writes. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
"Where they belong." And he adds, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
"It may not be so dreadful. All we have to lose is our aitches." | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
He was completely wrong about that. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
The middle class has not sunk. It's risen and risen and risen. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Another matter Orwell was wrong about, I think, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
was that values of the middle class | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and the working class were different and incompatible. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
Essential moral values, like a sense of honour or, as he writes, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
"Notions of good and evil, funny and serious, ugly and beautiful," | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
could be found in the working class every bit as much | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
as in the middle class. And they meant much the same to both. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
In 1936, Hitler invaded the Rhineland. War was coming. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:59 | |
'Now, isn't that a cheery dance?' | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
Soon the nation would have to face hardship and danger again, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
less than 20 years after the end of the First World War. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
But, in the meantime, they'd enjoy themselves while they could. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:14 | |
Ballroom dancing flourished. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
It had categories, competitions, judges, professionals. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
But, in 1937, one dance emerged from the working class | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
which became a symbol of national unity almost. The Lambeth Walk. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
Even the King and Queen did it. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
# When you walk down Lambeth Way | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
# Any evening, any day | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
# You'll find us all | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
# Doing the Lambeth Walk, oi! # | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
And off you'd go. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
The dance came from a musical, Me And My Girl. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
In it, the Cockney who's become a lord invites his mates | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
to a knees-up. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
The toffs can't help joining in | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
and the result is a riotous dance in which class divisions are dissolved. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
It became a national myth and a propaganda weapon. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
MUSIC: "The Lambeth Walk" | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
When war broke out, Jeremy Hutchinson had already served a year | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
in the Navy as a rating. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
That was an eye-opener and something that I very much wanted to do and enjoyed. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
What was the eye-opening thing about it? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
Living with people of a completely different background of all sorts. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:40 | |
And finding that it was perfectly possible to do that | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
without embarrassment, with a common purpose, as everybody had, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
and enormous enjoyment. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
All guns closed up and cleared away and communications tested, sir. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
-All to action stations. -Very good. Open fire. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
The theme of people of different classes pulling together | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
in the national interest | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
is one that the British cinema would take up and push relentlessly. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
Reynolds, Adams, Blake, Coombe, Parkinson, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
what sort of a ship do I want the Torrin to be? | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
-A happy ship, sir. -That's right. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
-An efficient ship, sir. -Correct. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
A happy and efficient ship. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
A very happy and a very efficient ship. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
In the film In Which We Serve, Noel Coward told the story | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
of Louis Mountbatten's destroyer Kelly and its company. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
And he emphasised the respect and affection between the classes. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
SHE GIGGLES | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
Hello, Blake, what are you doing here? | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
-I'm on my honeymoon, sir. -Well, that's splendid, congratulations. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
Thank you, sir. This is my wife, Mrs Blake. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
-How do you do? -Pleased to meet you, I'm sure. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Alex, come and meet one of my shipmates and his wife, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
they've just been married. Ordinary Seaman Blake, Mrs Blake, my wife. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
-How do you do? -Ma'am. -I hope you'll be very happy. -Thanks. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
Jeremy Hutchinson experienced it first-hand. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
He knew Mountbatten, played by Coward, | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
and he was on the Kelly when it was torpedoed. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
How accurate was that film, in your view, of what really went on? | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
It was really very accurate | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
because Mountbatten was a friend of Noel Coward's. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
I've come to say goodbye to the few of you who are left. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
And when Mountbatten told him about his goodbye to the survivors, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:22 | |
standing on a box and each of us coming up | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
and shaking his hand and talking to him | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
and saying goodbye, which was very, very moving. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Noel Coward said, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
"Well, that's very interesting, I want to know exactly what you said." | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
And Mountbatten then told him exactly what he'd said. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:41 | |
It is accurate. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:42 | |
Goodbye. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:43 | |
Good luck. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
And thank you all from the bottom of my heart. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
It's a scene Kipling would have applauded. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
During World War II, politicians seemed to realise | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
that those returning home, if the Allies prevailed, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
would have the power to demand a better, more equal society. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:06 | |
And realistic plans must be laid and made to work. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
'As the result of much intensive study | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
'into questions of social security, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
'Sir William Beveridge is the recognised authority | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
'on present-day and post-war problems.' | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
In 1942, the Beveridge Report delivered its strategy | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
on social security which would attack inequality and poverty. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
The welfare state was plainly in view. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
It means that no-one is to fall below a certain standard. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
'At last, Labour in power in Britain | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
'and here are some members of the new government.' | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
The Labour Party got this huge, 146-seat overall majority, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
and the Conservative Party was prostrate. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
The expectation was both, I think, higher in 1945 than in 1918 | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
and also it was fulfilled, to a remarkable degree. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
It wasn't socialism and paradise on earth, far from it. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
But the huge deprivations | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
that the Industrial Revolution had bequeathed this country | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
were in retreat. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
And there was a period of genuine optimism | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
that, generation upon generation, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
there would be a kind of exponential betterment | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
and you would gradually ease the class antagonisms | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
that had so disfigured the 19th century and the interwar years. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
It was the most extraordinary moment. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
There was a real bloom of promise and optimism for all the austerity. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
But there was still unfinished business. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
The Education Act had promised free secondary education for all. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
But it had stopped short of abolishing the public schools. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
The Labour Party's great victory shows that the country is ready... | 0:56:43 | 0:56:49 | |
Attlee, a public-school man himself, who loved his old school, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
could have done it but he didn't. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
Perhaps he thought public schools would wither on the vine | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
as state education achieved excellence. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
When the Labour won that election and we had the great meeting | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
in the Westminster Hall the next day, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
I was convinced the apartheid in education would go | 0:57:07 | 0:57:14 | |
and that the...this would be the end of the public schools. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
I really believed that. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
Would you welcome, would you have welcomed that? | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
No. Absolutely. I thought the.. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
I mean, as long as the public, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
as long as 7% of the population go to public schools, | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
have a separate and wonderful education, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
the class system will go on. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
Bound to. We have class somehow in our genes in this country. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:45 | |
It still goes on. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
On November 20th 1947, the bells rang out from Westminster Abbey, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:58 | |
just over there, announcing the wedding of Elizabeth Windsor | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
and Philip Mountbatten. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
The gathering of crown princes, kings, titled aristocracy, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
the enthusiasm of the crowds might have recalled | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
the scenes of George V's coronation in 1911. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
But this was now poised to be a very different Britain. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
So, had the class system and the culture that reflected it | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
disappeared after two World Wars, economic hardship, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:25 | |
a depression and the promise of a socialist future? | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
Or is class locked in our genes as Jeremy Hutchinson suggested? | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
In the next programme, I'll be looking at 1945 to 1979. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:37 | |
The angry young men, rock'n'roll and the full impact of TV. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:42 | |
# We gotta get out of this place | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
# If it's the last thing we ever do | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
# We gotta get out of this place | 0:58:49 | 0:58:52 | |
# Girl, there's a better life for me and you | 0:58:52 | 0:58:57 | |
# Believe me, baby | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
# I know it, baby | 0:59:01 | 0:59:03 | |
# You know it too. # | 0:59:03 | 0:59:05 |