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On the edge of Europe is a city | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
that was once the heart of a mighty empire. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
From here in Istanbul, the glories of the Ottoman Empire | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
came to match those of Ancient Rome. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Wow! | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Look at this! | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
This is the view that the Ottoman sultans | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
would have seen and it just simply takes your breath away. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
For 600 years, from the Middle Ages to the 20th century, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
one dynasty of Ottoman sultans, a single family, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
ruled over huge swathes of the world. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
The Ottomans were staggeringly wealthy. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
This is an empire of a million square miles. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
It's a superpower. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
The empire stretched south to Baghdad and Cairo, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
controlling the holiest sites of Islam. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
But it also reached deep into Europe, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
taking in Sarajevo and threatening the gates of Vienna. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
What's more, it was the world's last Islamic empire | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
and it collapsed less than a hundred years ago. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
In this series, I'm discovering why the Ottoman Empire | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
seems to have vanished from our understanding | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
of the history of Europe, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
why its story is exciting global interest once more | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
and how this year's struggles at the heart of the Ottoman story | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
have reignited on the streets they once ruled | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
from Syria to Turkey and Egypt. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
It's remarkable how some of the most important, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
yet unresolved, issues confronting us today | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
were also faced by the Ottomans. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
The conflicts between the Christian West and the Muslim East, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
the need to reconcile secular politics with religious ideology | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
and balancing the demands of the clergy | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
with the ambitions of the generals. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
All this was faced by one dynasty | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
that ruled for 600 years, across three continents. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
In this last episode, I'll discover how this great empire | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
was finally destroyed, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
why its achievements were largely lost | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
in the trauma of its final few years | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
and how the fallout from its collapse | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
created tensions that still resonate across Europe and the Middle East. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Across the continents, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
down the centuries, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
I'll be getting to grips with what we all need to know today | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
about Europe's Muslim emperors. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
The Ottomans had been part of the power politics of Europe | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
since their rise to power in the 13th century. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
They defeated the Byzantine Empire and turned its capital, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Constantinople, into THEIR imperial heart - modern day Istanbul. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
By the 16th century, they had become the leaders | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
of the Muslim world. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent ushered in a golden age. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
But 1683 marked the start of decline. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
At the gates of Vienna, the Pope's troops imposed a crushing defeat. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
All empires had great successes and losses, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
and they are the same, but they have been seen only as negative. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
As industrial and democratic revolutions transformed Europe, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
the Ottoman Empire became known as the sick man of Europe. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
The sick man could have cured himself and the sick man, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
rather late in the day, realised what he needed to do. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
The Ottomans tried to modernise along Western European lines. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
But the empire was already fracturing from within. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
Its lands began shrinking in the face | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
of an increasingly appealing concept - nationalism. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
People who used to be peoples of the empire said, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
"Now we want our country. Why don't we become independent? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
"Why don't we become a whole new nation?" | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
And that's why you had a Greek revolt, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
that's why you had a Serbian revolt and the Bulgarian revolt | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and Albanian revolt. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
Nationalism created a host of new hostile neighbours. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
With every one of those nationalist struggles | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
came tremendous violence done by the state to its society, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
by insurgents against the state. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I think...everyone was scarred. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
In a last ditch attempt to hold onto power, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
the Ottoman sultan tried to play the Islam card to rally | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
what was, for the first time, an overwhelmingly Muslim population. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
But by the start of the 20th century, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Istanbul was a city in turmoil. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
CHANTING | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Recent scenes on Turkey's streets | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
were mirrored in the early years of the century. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Tensions produced by nationalism | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
and the struggles to modernise the empire | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
affected the ideas of a new generation. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
So-called Young Turks demanded democracy | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
to replace the old world autocratic rule. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
One of the last Ottoman sultans, Abdul Hamid II, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
like his father and grandfather, attempted to modernise. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
The very schools and academies that the Ottomans had created | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
were churning out people convinced that the empire needed their ideas | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
to reform and they found the greatest obstacle to their participation | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
in the sultan himself. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
And in their resentment against Abdul Hamid II, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
you can really see where people who believed in meritocracy | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
were determined to end autocracy. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
The result is 1908, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
the Revolution of the Young Turks, and it's a very... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
it's the first example | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
of a very widely supported revolution, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
political revolution, which involve not only the Muslims | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
but also the Christians, and there's a euphoria, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
there's a hope of the Armenian population, of the Greek population, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
of the Jewish population, of the Muslim population, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
that things are going to change for the best. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
But even as the reforming generation | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
tried to reshape the empire from within, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
the Ottomans faced one final fight with the outside world. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
It was the moment modern European history | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
collided with that of the Middle East... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
in the First World War. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
The great powers of Europe had been waiting | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
for an opportunity to pounce on the Ottoman's lands. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
It came in 1914. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
It was a very serious situation for the Ottomans. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
They knew that this would be a struggle of life and death | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
for the 600 years empire. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
The Ottomans had entered World War I on the side of Germany. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
They soon faced an Allied attack within striking distance | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
of their capital, Istanbul. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
'Under Churchill's direction, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
'the British fleet makes a surprise attack on Turkey.' | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
When you are looking down there to the entrance, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
how many ships can you see? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
One, two, three, four, five... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
On the 18th of March 1915, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
a fleet of 103 ships | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
sailed into this very small area. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
16 of the 103 were some of the biggest in the world at the time. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
Just to see them, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
that was a shock for the Turks who were here on the shores. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
This was the Battle of Gallipoli - | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
an attack the Ottomans had long dreaded. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
When the Allies made a landing, Ottoman troops were overwhelmed. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
But a young officer, Mustafa Kemal, or Ataturk, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
began his rise to prominence when he commanded the troops | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
to sacrifice their lives for the empire. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
"I do not order you to attack. I order you to die. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
"Within the time which will pass by, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
"other soldiers and officers will take our places." | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
And with his division, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
he stopped the Allies on that day. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
What followed was stalemate. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Both armies were entrenched here for eight long months. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
And sometimes the opposing trenches were only nine yards apart. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
There were terrible losses on both sides. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
The total casualty figure in terms of both dead and wounded | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
is thought to be at around 340,000. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Eventually the Allies had to accept a humiliating defeat. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Gallipoli convinced the Ottomans | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
that they were in a fight to the death. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
After years of battles | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
that had seen them lose vast territory and great wealth, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
this was a war they felt they had to win... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
at any cost. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Up to the First World War, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Kurdish Muslims and Armenian Christians | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
lived in Van in southeast Turkey. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
This is what's left of the old city today. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
This picture is very important for the Van history, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
because it's taken before the World War I, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
and it shows how the city was. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
And now we are seeing there, the minarets. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
And then the other major monuments, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
quarters, Armenian church right over there. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
After years of nationalist struggles in the empire, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Ottoman tolerance had worn out. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Thousands of Armenians had already been massacred. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
But here in the remote East, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
some fought for autonomy supported by Russia, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
until tensions escalated into a single, dreadful event. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
Looking down on it now, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
it is completely and utterly flattened, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
save for just a few minarets. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Why? What happened? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
During the World War I, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
especially starting 1915, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
bad things happened there. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
The Russian Army came to the Van | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and the Armenian Army burned all the Muslim quarters of the city | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
and many Muslim population left the city. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
When the Ottoman Army came here, take revenge, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
all the city destroyed it. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
The Ottomans had dealt brutally with Armenians before. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
But in 1915, their actions were unprecedented. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
They forcibly rounded up whole villages of Armenians | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
and marched them to the desert. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
The justification that the Turks will use | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
is the need to secure their own lines of communication | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
and the fear of a rebellion when it's facing a major military danger. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
What clearly happens very quickly is a move from there to outright | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
massacre of Armenians, come what may. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
There's a British parliamentary report on the deportations, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
containing eye-witness accounts. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I looked at it with Armenian historian Ara Sarafian. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Just to give you one example, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
we have the American consul in Harput, modern day Elazig, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
who describes the arrival of deportees from further north | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
and he gives a very vivid account of what deportation actually meant. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
He says, for example, | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
"If it were simply a matter of being obliged to leave here | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
"to go somewhere else, it would not be so bad, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
"but everybody knows it is a case of going to one's death. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
"The entire movement seems to be the most thoroughly organised | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
"and effective massacre this country has ever seen." | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
The British report has been dismissed by Turkey | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
as wartime propaganda. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
There's intense debate about what happened to the Armenians | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
and whether it should be described as genocide. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Genocide is about a deliberate intent | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
to destroy a race, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
that's what it means. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
And why the controversy has arisen as to whether the word "genocide" | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
is appropriate has been, in part, because of the difficulty | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
of establishing absolutely clearly that intent. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Well over 2,000 villagers individually were targeted, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
were sent away and, by and large, murdered, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
so we can argue whether that's genocide or not, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
but that's pretty close to the definition. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
The round figure that tends to be used is a million Armenians die | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
out of a possible population of two or three times that. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
It's a story, though, which did not happen | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
because of the Ottoman system | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
but happened because of the fall of the Ottoman system. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Armenians had lived in the Ottoman Empire side by side with Turks | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
for six centuries, and because of the fears of nationalism, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
ethnic conflict, they had this tragic end. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
These ruins are a testament to the final troubled years | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
of the Ottoman Empire. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
It's incredible that this is all that remains | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
from what was once a thriving city. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
This kind of rough cut crosses, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
are memories of the Armenian community of the Van. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Did anyone win in the end, do you think? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
No. We lost the city | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and we lost the friendship between two communities. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
When World War I finally ended in 1918 | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
it was the Allies who were victorious. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
It signalled the imminent death of the Ottoman Empire. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
It wasn't solely European aggression that had defeated it. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Nationalism had fractured the Ottoman's diverse peoples, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
helping to destroy the empire from within. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
As the Allies set about shaping the post-Ottoman world, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
the deals done to win the war would sow seeds of conflict | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
that divide the world to this day. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
The victors - Britain and France - | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
now set about carving up the Ottoman lands. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Russian ambitions were no longer a threat, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
because that country had been thrown into chaos in 1917 | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
by the Bolshevik revolution. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
France claimed kind of northeastern corner of Turkey, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
around Edirne, and they wanted the Syrian coastline into Jalad. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
The British had discovered oil, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
so they wanted Basra and Mesopotamia. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
A whole series of new countries was created in the Middle East. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
France got modern day Syria and Lebanon. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
The British took control of modern day Iraq, Palestine and Jordan. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
The borders of these countries were not designed | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
according to any geographical reality or any ethnic reason. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
Iraq is the consolidation of three former Ottoman provinces. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
It was not logically shaped | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
to form a state, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
so the differences in terms of ethnicity differences, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
in terms of religion, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
meant that it was storing up future problems. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
The British had encouraged Arabs in the Ottoman Empire | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
to pursue the dream of self-rule. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Those who had joined the fight got their reward. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
So, the sons of the sharif of Mecca | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
became the kings of modern day Jordan and Iraq. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Descendants of the Arab Wahabi uprising, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
who rejected the authority of the Ottomans over a century before, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
became the new rulers of today's Saudi Arabia. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Britain had been using the possibility of territory | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
within the Ottoman Empire to secure allies, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
and so Britain makes contradictory promises, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
but in entering those agreements | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Britain has stored up terrible problems for the future, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
not only for Britain's own interests in the least, of course, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
but for the Middle East itself. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
What Britain didn't tell the nationalists | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
was that it had promised Arab territory to its allies, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
including Zionists who wanted a new Jewish state in the region. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
In a matter of decades, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Israel became a reality in former Arab Palestine. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
It left many Arabs feeling betrayed. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
It is in the Middle East above all, we continue to see | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
the effects of the First World War | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
and I have to say, in my moments of gloom, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
if I want to think where could a third world war break out, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
it would be there. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Modern day Saudi Arabia and Yemen | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
escaped control by the great powers of Europe. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Only one other major Muslim country would achieve this. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
Remarkably, that nation was the heartland of the Ottoman Empire. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Modern day Turkey. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
In 1918, the future of this country looked bleak. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
Ottoman power had passed on for the final time | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
to the last Ottoman sultan, Mehmed VI. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
He wanted to negotiate with the European powers. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
But the Allies had other ideas. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Lloyd George likened, actually, the Turks to cancer, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
that they were bloodthirsty, you know, Muslim tyrants | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
who suppressed, actually, civilised Christian peoples for centuries. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
This was really merely tapping into long-standing prejudice | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
that had both a religious and a racial element to it. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
And so Britain's Prime Minister, Lloyd George, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
decided to allow the Greeks to attack. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
What followed was a defining moment | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
in the relationship between Greeks and Turks. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
With the approval of Britain, Greece landed troops | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
in western Turkey in 1919. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
They wanted control of lands | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
which were already home to a sizeable Greek population. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
But officers in the old Imperial Army were outraged. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
One determined to lead the fight back. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
He was the same man who had rallied the troops at Gallipoli. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Mustafa Kemal - Ataturk. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Ataturk deliberately depicted jihad, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
a holy war between two major religions, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
you know, between Christianity and Islam. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
It's pretty normal in the history of this part of the world | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
that you raise the flag of religion to get everyone marching. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Ataturk began mobilising a rebel army to fight the Greek invaders. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
When the pushback against the Greeks came, it was incredibly rapid. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:10 | |
The Greeks advanced too far into the interior, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
they overextended their lines of communication. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
And before long, they were exhausted | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
and the Turks were able to turn the tide of war. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
Greek troops were pushed back to the western seaport of Izmir, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
or Smyrna, where there was a large Greek community. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
In September 1922, Turkish troops followed. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
The city was set alight. The only escape, on the waterfront. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Thousands perished in the flames and smoke. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Tens of thousands had to be evacuated. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
It was an event that the Greeks have not forgotten, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
the Asia Minor disaster. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
There was a fascinating combination of cultures all living cheek by jowl, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
which was destroyed, and it's left a real hole in people's lives, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
it's left a sadness for a lost world. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
A lost way of life. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
The rebel army had defeated the Greeks. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And they'd done it without the support of the sultan. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
He now paid the price. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Mehmed VI would be the last of the Ottoman dynasty, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
stretching back 600 years and through 22 generations. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
From its founder Osman, to Sultan Mehmed, who'd conquered Istanbul, | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
to Suleiman the Magnificent, who took the Ottomans | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
to the peak of their power. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
It was all over. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
The Ottoman Empire began at the time of the Dark Ages in Europe | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
and ended in the era of modernity during the 20th century. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
It went from before the Peasants Revolt in Britain | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
to the period when aviation had been invented. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
In 1922, the sultanate was abolished, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and Mehmed left for a life in exile. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
In the aftermath of the war with Greece, Greek Orthodox Christians | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
living in parts of modern day Turkey were told to leave. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
For centuries, they had lived side by side with Muslims | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
in villages like this in southern Turkey. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
The Greeks knew it as Livizzi. Today, it's Kayakoy. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
1,500 people needed to leave their houses. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
They cleaned their houses, made everything ready for the newcomers. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
They even left their keys. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Some of them left it into the local Jandarma to be given... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
The local police? Yes, local police, to be given to the newcomers. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
Despina Mavrikou and her daughter Vera | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
are descendants of refugees from the village, now living in Greece. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
The forced relocation is still a difficult family memory. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
SHE SPEAKS GREEK | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
My mother says that she feels pain, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
she feels sorry for what happened to them | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
because they didn't deserve such bad circumstances to live. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
When Greeks left, they opened the churches and took all things out. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
They painted the pictures inside the churches. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
They didn't need to do that. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
They raped girls within the Holy Table of the Church. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:30 | |
They didn't need to do so savage, so wild things to the Greek people. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:37 | |
It was as if they wanted to take revenge from the Greeks. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
The relocation of Christians was one side of a population exchange | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
sanctioned by the League of Nations. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Any Muslims still living in Greece also had to move. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
The Evrenos family left Greece in 1912. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
The ancestors of this family were responsible | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
for founding some of the first Ottoman towns | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
in 14th-century Greece. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
After more than 500 years of calling it home, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
the family found it difficult to come to terms with their exile. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
It is a painful story. The reason why my grandfather | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
and my grandmother moved into Istanbul | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
is that because they tried to assassinate him in Greece. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
Living there for more than 500 years, it's your home. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
Of course, they left everything behind and they created | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
their old lives again from scratch. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
So, it's not an easy thing to do. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
In total, around two million people were uprooted by conflict | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
and the subsequent population exchange. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
The exchange of populations enormously damaged relations | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
between Greeks and Turks. To me, it is a sad tragedy, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
a lost opportunity that, in modern times, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
Greece and Turkey have not been able to establish closer relations. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:29 | |
In the end, the steep location of this village | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
proved too challenging for newcomers. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
It was eventually abandoned. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Today, it's preserved as a reminder of the human cost of war. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
This is a disturbing place. Britain encouraged Greece to invade. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
But, of course, it was ordinary people in villages like this one, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
across Turkey and, of course, Greece, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
who paid the price for that decision. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
It's a cautionary tale of the West intervening in a country | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
it doesn't really understand. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
In a matter of years, everything had changed | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
in the old Ottoman heartland. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Where once about a fifth of the population had been non-Muslim, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
by 1923, it was only 2%. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
And with the sultan gone, there was no figure to lead the new country. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
But there was a man widely credited | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
with saving the nation twice over. Ataturk. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:45 | |
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a war hero from Gallipoli, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
but what really made his career, was his leadership | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
of the Turkish War of Liberation. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
He emerged as a hero, you know, victory personified. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
He was the political leader and the military leader | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
of the struggle and therefore, he immediately became | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
a saint-like figure in Turkey. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
That's what sealed his role, basically, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
as the unchallenged President of Turkey for life. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Ataturk grew up in Salonica, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
the modern Greek city of Thessaloniki, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
when it was still part of Ottoman lands. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
He had been born outside the borders of the state he would lead. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
But he had experienced the tensions at the end of the empire | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
and they shaped his thinking. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
He had a vision of a new state, rising | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
from the ashes of the failed empire. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
On the 29th of October 1923, in a new capital, Ankara, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
the Republic of Turkey was formally declared. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
It soon began to impose fundamental changes to society. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:06 | |
This factory was one of the first built in the new republic | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
and it was a bold statement. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Drinking alcohol is not permitted in Islam, but this was a brewery. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:18 | |
The new state was calling time on its Muslim past. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Ataturk would sit in cafes, drinking alcohol in public, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
so that people could see him do it. He wanted people | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
to behave like Europeans and he saw drinking alcohol | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
as something which Turkey could move towards. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
He wanted Turkey to be the equal of Europe, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
which in those days, of course, was the civilised world in his mind. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:58 | |
Ataturk was a product of his time. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Educated Turks viewed history in the same way | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
as intellectuals in the West. It was a struggle | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
between religion and science, and religion held back progress. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
Ataturk was convinced that for the republic to succeed, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
it had to adopt modern Western ways | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
and leave behind its traditional Muslim outlook. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
One of his famous maxims | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
is that the only true guide is actually science. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:37 | |
He really believed religion will fade away | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
and science will reign supreme. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
And so Ataturk subsumed religion to his state. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
Almost overnight, the country started to look very different. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
Traditional Islamic dress, such as the headdress for women, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
was banned. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
Ataturk's vision for a secular state | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
touched every aspect of people's lives. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
One of the most commonly used calendars was the Islamic calendar. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Now, if Turkey had to be a European nation, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
it had to have a European calendar, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:12 | |
so Ataturk implemented what is known as the "Calendar Reform". | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
The Turks went to bed one night, it was 1341, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
they woke up the next morning, it was 1926. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
When Ataturk adopted Sunday as the holy day instead of Friday, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
it deeply affected people, because Sunday | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
was associated with Christianity. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
He decides that Turkey has to switch to a Roman Latin-based alphabet. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
That switch happens, once again, very fast, in less than three months. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:49 | |
He gave rights to Turkish women and this happened, really, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
before such rights actually were granted to women | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
in many Western societies. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Women being discouraged from wearing the veil, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
the Christian calendar being adopted instead of the Islamic one | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
and the traditional Arabic script being replaced | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
by the Western Latin alphabet. It was a social revolution | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
of incredible proportions. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
In a way, the Ottoman Empire raised its own nemesis. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
Ataturk wants to do away with the Ottoman legacy, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
eliminate everything that has to do with the Ottoman Empire | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
and establish a republic from scratch. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
Seyda Kayhan was a child in the new republic. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
She feels Ataturk's reforms | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
transformed their lives for the better. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
"Look to the West," he said, "because the result is progress | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
"and enlightenment... getting out of this mess." | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
And then schools were opened, where we could learn English, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
they learned how to put on European clothes, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
they learned how to throw off their fezs. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
That's what they did | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
and they did it with pleasure, I mean, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
nobody forced them to do it. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
They were poor, they wanted to be Western. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
Why shouldn't they? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
But Ataturk could be ruthless with anyone who didn't share his vision. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
In 1925, a new reform was introduced which forced the Turkish people | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
to show their acceptance of the new secular society. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:53 | |
At the start of the 20th century, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Muslim men in Turkey wore a hat known as the fez. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
And this is the last place in Istanbul where it was made. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
At the time, it was an incredibly advanced workshop | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
with steam-powered looms, but it all came to an end in 1925. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
From that point on, the fez was banned. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
It's ironic, because the fez itself had been installed | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
by a Westernising sultan in the 19th century who had banned the turban. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
Yet a hundred years later, the fez has now... | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
the invented tradition had become what people thought | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
was their tradition going back hundreds of years. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
The fez became a symbol for those who resented | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Ataturk's sweeping reforms. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
An Islamic scholar called Atif Hodja decided to make a stand. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
Atif Hodja, he had actually prepared a pamphlet | 0:36:41 | 0:36:47 | |
and said that this was really un-Islamic. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
So he was arrested and brought before, actually, one of those, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
court martialled and sentenced, actually, to death. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
And he was actually executed. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
This is 1926, right after he objected to the reform | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
of wearing the Western-style hat. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
To build a republic out of post-war chaos, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Ataturk believed the needs of the state | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
had to come before the rights of an individual. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
If you were an opponent of Ataturk's, you would know about it. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
But on the other hand, there was nowhere near | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
the level of brutality or brutalisation | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
that you saw with, shall we say, Stalin, his exact counterpart | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
in the Soviet Union. There was nowhere near | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
the level of brutalisation you see in China with Mao Tse Tung. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
He's very criticised today by multiple groups, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
but as a nationalist leader that started a new country | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
and was able to adapt this old imperial state | 0:37:45 | 0:37:51 | |
and society very quickly to become a productive nation | 0:37:51 | 0:37:59 | |
in the new world, he was very successful at that. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
Ataturk's choice of presidential residence in Istanbul | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
reflected his Western focus. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
The Dolmabache Palace was built by the Ottomans, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
but influenced by the fashions of 18th-century Europe. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
For Ataturk, it embodied his ideology. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
But his new state was built around the idea | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
of a single Turkish identity, and it didn't suit everyone. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
In particular, the tribal Kurds of southeast Turkey. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
The Kurds and the Turks, they fought together for the Turkish republic. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
But then the Turkish side with Ataturk pushed them off overboard, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
as it were, and said, "No, actually, you're going to be Turks now." | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Some Kurdish nationals say that Kurds were free under the Ottoman Empire, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
so we should have those rights. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
Kurdish resistance to the idea of a single Turkish identity | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
had its origins in the 1920s and has continued | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
right up to the ongoing peace talks. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
That's one of the big drivers of the current conflict with the PKK. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
Most Kurds are absolutely insistent now that their identity | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
be recognised as equal and that they be treated fairly, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
and that wasn't an issue in the Ottoman Empire. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
At 9.05 on the 10th of November 1938, Ataturk died. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
The teacher came in, her eyes were swollen, she said, "Ataturk died." | 0:39:41 | 0:39:48 | |
Because we saw our teacher crying, we began to cry, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
but when we walked out to the recess, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
there, everybody was crying. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
I was taught to love Ataturk, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
but then, as I grew up, I realised it was the truth. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
He was the saviour | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
and I feel gratitude | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
and I feel appreciation for him. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
75 years after his death, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Ataturk's presence is still felt in modern Turkey. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
It's just after nine o'clock | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
on a pretty cold and miserable Saturday morning. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
But something unique is just about to take place. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
CAR HORNS BLARE | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
Every year on the 10th of November, at 9.05 in the morning, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
everyone stops for one minute. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
They remember the moment the founder of the modern Turkish republic | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
passed into history. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
A man who created a state that is still distinct | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
in this part of the world. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
What Ataturk does is he makes the transition from military rule | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
to civil regeneration and does so with less harshness | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
than was the case across much of the world in that period. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
Ataturk built his republic at the heart of the former empire. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
But the transformation of Turkish society didn't happen in isolation. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
One of Ataturk's revolutionary changes | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
reverberated around the Islamic world. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
For centuries, the Ottoman sultans had also held a role | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
of supreme significance to Muslims. In the 16th century | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
they laid claim to the title of caliph, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
religious leader to all Sunni Muslims. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Basically, when Prophet Muhammad died, Muslims sat down | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
and said, "What are we going to do now?" So, they ultimately chose | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
one among them, the person they thought the most pious, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
and he became the first caliph. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
But Ataturk saw the caliph as a potential threat, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
an alternative leader. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
So after the sultanate was abolished, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
he also got rid of the caliphate. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
This was a shock for many people and it felt for many | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
like the centre had been taken out of the Islamic world. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:57 | |
It was a trauma for Turkish Muslims, it was a trauma for Arab Muslims. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
For the first time in its history, the Islamic world | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
became devoid of the caliph, a leader. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
Now, nobody has any authority to say what is right or wrong | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
from an Islamic point of view. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
When there are some radical terrorists like Al-Qaeda | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
do some very unacceptable things in the name of Islam, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
there is no caliph to come up and say, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
"This is Islamically wrong, Islam doesn't allow targeting innocent people". | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
So there's a post-caliph chaos, if you will, in the Muslim world. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:32 | |
And the forgotten fallout from the break-up of the Ottoman Empire | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
is playing out today with bloody civil wars | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
and the toppling of tyrants from Damascus to Cairo. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
But now some in the region are starting to make sense | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
of the present day by referring to its Ottoman past. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
And the reason is the remarkable change in Turkey itself. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
The country that so dramatically turned its back on the Ottomans | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
is once again looking to its Islamic heritage. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
In the decades that followed Ataturk, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
secular Turkey clung to its leaders' mantra that to modernise, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
it needed to Westernise, and that meant to secularise. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
Driving many of its reforms was the ultimate goal | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
of joining the elite club that is the European Union. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
And a sign of that was if you looked at Turkish weather forecasts, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
the map would not centre on Turkey, it would centre somewhere in Hungary | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
and you would see Turkey as part of European weather patterns, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
so it kind of shows you the Turks thought of themselves | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
as part of Europe, but not part of the Middle East. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
Eventually, Turkey adopted a Western-style free-market economy, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
but it produced unexpected results. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
Many of the entrepreneurs who seized the opportunity | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
came not from the cities in the west of the country | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
but from its more central heartlands, Anatolia. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
By the late 1980s, this new economic policy was paying off. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
Newspapers began to describe a phenomenon | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
known as the Anatolian Tigers. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
This new breed of entrepreneur transformed regions like Konya | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
in southern-central Turkey. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
I looked around one of its factories | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
where they produce vegetable oil for export to 50 countries. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
What do you think personally about the title Anatolian Tiger? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
Do you like it, or do you prefer something else? | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
We like it too much. We like it because this is a... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
A tiger is a good animal, a strong animal. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
So Anatolia is the... | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
We are Anatolian, so this is a really big honour for us. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
Despite Ataturk's secular vision, religion remained important | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
to people in these conservative heartlands. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
Islam is seen by many as a crucial part of their business success. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:05 | |
The Muslims must be hard-working and trustable | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
and always they said true things. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
So you have to be trustworthy as a Muslim and as a businessman. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
Yes, all the Muslims must do the trustable... | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
..after then they do the good business, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
after then, all over the world, people give the respect. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
The economic success of the Anatolian Tigers | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
gave them political muscle. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
In 2002, they helped elect modern Turkey's first Islamic government. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
The AK Party have held power for over a decade. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
In the old days, Islam was seen as being part of the problem. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
The current party in power is the one that has seized upon the Ottoman story | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
as a way to show that it is the heir of a great empire. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
It likes the fact that most people | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
see the Ottoman Empire as an Islamic empire as well in Turkey | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
because they tend to emphasise the religious side of things, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
and they've repackaged it, in their own way, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
they've reinvented the story to serve their political purpose | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
and they believe that it makes them seem like an eternal | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
and powerful ideology and force. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
With an elected Islamic party in government, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Turkey's undergoing a change. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
One which is reconnecting with its Ottoman past. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
But not everyone is happy. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
Secularists worry that it's turning back the clock in Turkey, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
undoing decades of social reform. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
CHANTING | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
There's even been controversy over a hit TV show about the Ottomans. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:59 | |
THEY SPEAK IN TURKISH | 0:47:59 | 0:48:05 | |
HE SPEAKS IN TURKISH | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
Set in the 16th century, the golden age of the empire, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
Magnificent Century attracts 200 million viewers worldwide. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:22 | |
HE SPEAKS IN TURKISH | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
HE SPEAKS IN TURKISH | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
But it's a show that polarises people | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
and the directors have faced a storm of protest. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
THEY SPEAK IN TURKISH | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
You are just making a TV series and everybody in the country, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
suddenly, was talking about it. I mean, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
we were sitting at our homes and all the channels... | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
All the channels. ..all of them was talking about your show. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
You couldn't believe. It was like a horror movie for us! | 0:48:58 | 0:49:04 | |
Before that, no-one wanted to make a thing like that, about Ottoman, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:10 | |
because it is very sacred issue, you know, untouchable. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
Some dislike the TV show because they revere this Islamic history. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
Others don't approve because they blame the Ottomans | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
for everything that went wrong in their nation. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
I detest it. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
I don't like it, because it's gone. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
Who goes back. Who is going back? | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
I don't know what makes it so attractive. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
Which part of it? | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
People are interested only to know what was happening in the palace, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
the fine arts, the music, the poetry. Oh, I love it. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
The costumes are very nice, the jewellery is beautiful, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
the miniatures also, but it wasn't all. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Ottoman Empire had its ups and downs and it had huge sufferings as well. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:15 | |
The actor in the lead role of Sultan Suleiman welcomes the debate. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
People started to read history. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
They started to discuss about history and they are trying | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
to learn what's right and what's wrong and they are discussing. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:34 | |
So this is good for the future, very promising, because if you know | 0:50:34 | 0:50:40 | |
your history, then you can build your future in a healthy way. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:46 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
TANNOY ANNOUNCEMENT | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
The resurgence of this interest in the Ottoman Empire today | 0:50:52 | 0:50:59 | |
is both positive and also negative. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
Religious extremism has given us this image | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
of Islam as intolerant, so the Ottoman Empire is a very good | 0:51:07 | 0:51:13 | |
example of tolerant Islam for a very long time. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
On the other hand, the end of the Ottoman Empire was horrendous, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
where massacres happened, where populations were eliminated. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
HE SINGS IN TURKISH | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
Every Turk today has a vision of the Ottoman Empire. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
If you just ask a Turk what do you think about the Ottoman Empire, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
you'll get an answer and that answer will tell you | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
what political camp that Turk is probably in. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Conservatives generally identified with the Ottoman Empire, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
praise it as their model, as the source of their heritage, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
whereas more secularist Turks look at the empire as somewhat corrupt. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:01 | |
But the TV series about the Ottomans doesn't just | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
attract viewers in Turkey. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
This history is being opened up across former Ottoman lands, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
from the Balkans to the Middle East. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
500 years ago, it was Sultan Selim the Grim who brought | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
Ottoman rule to cities like Damascus and Cairo. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
Now the Ottoman past is a topical subject here too. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
In 2006, I went for a visit to Damascus, the Syrian capital. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:37 | |
My guide, who was fantastic otherwise, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
the first morning took me for | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
a tour of the city and he took me to the central square of Damascus. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
I'm originally from Turkey. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
He looked at me and he said, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
"This is where your grandparents executed my grandparents." | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
Of course, my grandparents were not in Damascus, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
but this is how the Arabs look at Turkish legacy. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
They see it as the former imperial masters. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
In Cairo as well, discussion of the old era of Ottoman rule was | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
back on the agenda after the Arab Spring uprisings. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
The Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
was greeted like a visiting celebrity by supporters of | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
the former government of Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
They appeared delighted to see a strong, outwardly Muslim leader | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
ready to speak out against Israel and for the Palestinians. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
There's a Turkish leader who shows up in Cairo right after | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
the fall of the Mubarak dictatorship there | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
and he's met by a million people at the airport, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
so he receives a very warm welcome. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
But when the Turkish Prime Minister appeared to advocate the value of | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
a secular transformation in Egypt, the enthusiasm cooled | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
in some quarters. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
I think Turkey's plans to become a regional leader | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
will be checked by the reality that | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
the Arabs don't want a big brother to come and tell them what to do. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
And yet, Ottoman history is unmistakably present within | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
the debate about the future. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
The spectre of what's been termed "neo-Ottomanism" | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
is used to raise concerns about Turkey's growing prestige. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:21 | |
Syria's embattled President Assad, for example, has accused | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
the prime minister of aspiring to be an Ottoman-style sultan. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
Personally, he thinks that he is the new sultan of the Ottomans | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
and he can control the region as it was during the Ottoman Empire, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
under a different, let's say, umbrella. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
But that umbrella in Turkey IS democratic, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
unlike President Assad, who effectively inherited his rule | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
from his father, or the Ottoman dynasty sultans whose family also | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
passed power down the generations - this government can be voted out. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:57 | |
Turkey is a combination of its current Islamic leadership, | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
its secular century and its Ottoman past. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:07 | |
Even in the post-Ataturk phase, Turkey's leaders have | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
a little bit of Ataturk in them. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
This idea that this country has some unique aspects | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
of its identity, that it's secular, that it's Western, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
and a little bit of an Ottoman sultan also, but it tells us so much about | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
modern Turkey, that this is a country that is rooted in | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
the Ottoman Empire. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
And a democratic Turkey, reconnecting its public life to | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
Muslim traditions, offers not fear but hope to politicians in the West. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
America in particular has been keen to see Turkey as a role model | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
for other Middle Eastern countries. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
Some people are hoping that Turkey has a magic wand | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
and that these other countries can somehow magically become Turkeys | 0:55:52 | 0:55:57 | |
and become somehow tame, but I think it's very unwise to try and transfer | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
the very individual experience of Turkey onto the other very difficult | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
experiences of the very separate countries in the Middle East. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
There is a debate about whether Turkey serves as a role model | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
that Islam and modernity can coexist. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
I think Turkey is as far advanced a case that can be made that | 0:56:15 | 0:56:23 | |
a country can be mostly Muslim, yet at the same time | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
part of both the global society and the global economy. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
The Ottoman story tells us that, for centuries, a Muslim empire, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
based in Europe, was a global leader. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
An advanced, highly organised state with a sophisticated culture | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
and, for its time, tolerant of religious difference. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
The modern day politics of the region continue to be buffeted by | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
Western powers, as they have been since it was the sick man of Europe. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
This is both a European story and a Middle Eastern story. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen | 0:57:13 | 0:57:18 | |
and Egypt, the hot spots of the 21st century in the Middle East. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
All former Ottoman lands bound together once more | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
by political aspirations for change. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
And re-emerging as a role model for this revolutionary Middle East, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
straddling East and West, Islam and democracy, is Turkey. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
This is a nation that knows what it is to have | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
an imperial, expansionist past. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
It understands that it lives in a truly secular society. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:53 | |
And it's learning what it is to be Islamic and democratic. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:58 | |
From this melting pot of options, Turkey will decide its future, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
a decision that will affect all of us. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
The relationship between East and West isn't just | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
symbolised in this country where the continents meet. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
Since the Middle Ages, it's a relationship | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
which has been defined by what happened here. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
And today it's at the heart of a battle between democracy, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
secularism and Islam. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:24 | |
At stake are regional and global ambitions | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
and agendas that cannot be understood without grasping | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
the history and legacy of the Ottomans, Europe's Muslim emperors. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:59:05 | 0:59:07 | |
TENOR SINGS ROUSING ITALIAN SONG | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 |