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London, in 1886. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
The largest city in the world, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
the financial and industrial centre of a vast empire. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
It was a city divided between fabulous wealth and miserable poverty. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
It seems a mystery to us now. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
It was a different world. An entirely different world. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
But there is a guide to this human jungle - | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Charles Booth, Victorian London's social explorer. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Booth produced a series of pioneering maps | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
that colour-coded the streets of his London, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
according to the ever-shifting class of its residents. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Booth's maps are like scans, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
X-rays that reveal to us the secret past | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
beneath the skin of the present. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
If people knew how many cattle was killed there, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
I don't think they'd live there! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
He wanted his maps | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
to chart stories of momentous social change. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
I was on the bottom, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
and those houses were the lowest of the low. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
The ebb and flow between enormous wealth and terrible poverty. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
How easily desirable or well-to-do neighbourhoods | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
could descend into the haunts of the vicious and semi-criminal, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
and back again. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Now the maps can help us reveal the changes | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
that have shaped all our lives and made the story of the streets | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
the story of us all. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Oh my goodness! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
The old toilet's gone! | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Gentrification has swept across | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
much of the Victorian housing stock in London. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Reverdy Road in Bermondsey | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
has largely resisted the middle-class invasion. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
A street that hasn't changed much at all in the last hundred years. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
I'm working class, I always will be, you know. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
I don't aspire to be anything else. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
I've got friends who say they're middle class, it makes us laugh. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
Bloody Cockneys, the same as us! | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Who wants to be middle class anyway? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Terry Sullivan has lived in Bermondsey all his life | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
and has been in this house since 1962. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
I don't think because you drink fine wine | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
it makes you middle class | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
or if you like good music it makes you middle class. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
I think you should be proud of your roots, and I am. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
We call this the eating room, but actually we never eat in here. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Lynne uses it for her artwork. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
It's one of her pictures she's doing at the moment, I think. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Waterbed. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
Oh, I'm proud of that. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
See that marble? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
It's not marble, it's wood. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
That's what I did, marbling. I do marbling sometimes. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
That's one of my more successful ones, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
because I think that does look like marble, doesn't it? | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
That's across the road. That's my grandfather, my father, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
my Aunt Mary and Lena, Aunt Lena, and that's John. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
That's in Reverdy Road, looking down towards Southwark Park Road. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
In 1900, Charles Booth visits Bermondsey in south-east London. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
It's an area bounded to the north by the River Thames | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and to the south by the Old Kent Road. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Reverdy Road is a street of 85 two-storey houses, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
built in the 1860s. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Booth classifies this street as pink, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
meaning fairly comfortable, with good ordinary earnings. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
His first impressions of Reverdy Road, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
as recorded in his notebook, are favourable. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
These are all two-storied houses on comfortable streets. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Yellowed brick and built at the time of the Crimea. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Some were tenanted by one family like salesmen and travellers, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
but the majority, by two. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Good gardens at the back, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
railwaymen, engine drivers, police and guards live here. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
The houses are seldom empty and hard to get. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Fairly small fronts, with iron railings. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Fairly clean and broad streets. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
I remember coming first, and my husband fetched his friend in here. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
We were looking around the house, empty, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
looking around, and we went upstairs and looked at a bedroom. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
This friend of his, "Oh, this is the master bedroom, isn't it?" you know. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
And I looked at the garden. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
"Ooh, I'd need a bus to get down there," you know. It was a really big, if you know what I mean... | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
Compared to the place I lived in when I was young. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
Reverdy Road has always been a respectable street | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
for respectable working-class people. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
But the house on the corner is different. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
It's bigger and ever since 1891, it's been home to a doctor. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
This house has seen the formation of important principles of public health provision. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Max Gammon arrived here in 1979 | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
with a keen sense of being a community-based doctor. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
'You saw a patient right through as a person.' | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
The numbers of cases that I've had | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
in which I've seen a patient through | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
from the early stages, say, of a carcinoma, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
to the deathbed... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
You were part, an organic part, of this community, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
and one could actually feel that one was playing a crucial part | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
in the life not only of that patient, but also of that family. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
How many people had been seen in that surgery | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
since it began? I said, I thought, probably, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
-50-week year, and we saw 200 a week. -Right. So that's... | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
-For 100 years. -OK. So that's 10,000 a year, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
and then for 100 years, so then 10,000 times by 100, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
which is a million. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Yeah, a million is a ballpark figure. It certainly wouldn't be less. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
That's quite extraordinary. A million patients. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
The doctor's house was built in 1861 for local farmer William Poupart. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
This house was part of also the row of houses in Southwark Park Road, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
which was once Blue Anchor Lane, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
and it was Lily Cottage, Rose Cottage, etc, down the road, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:26 | |
and we were part of a farmstead built for the farm workers. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
The farm and mill attached to the cottage burned down in 1866, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
making way for the rest of Reverdy Road to be built two years later. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
The first census was in 1891, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
and reveals that Dr George Cooper was resident in the house, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
along with his wife, eight children and a servant. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Cooper had a strong notion of public service | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
and was devoted to his work as a Bermondsey GP. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
In 1906, he was elected as the Liberal Member of Parliament for Bermondsey. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
When he wasn't in the House of Commons, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Cooper would've been treating people in the Reverdy Road surgery. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
We found this in the old stables, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
because just through there, beyond the surgery, there was the coach house, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
because Mr Cooper had a coach and horse, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
and behind the coach house, there's a stable and a tack room. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:40 | |
This would have been the coach house. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
There would have been a highly polished carriage... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
single horse, I think, but I did have a patient who remembered Dr Cooper. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
He was 90 years old, this patient of mine, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
when I first came here, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
and he said he remembered Dr Cooper visiting in his carriage, wearing a top hat. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:05 | |
Even though the area was a very poor area, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
they'd got a very smart doctor in a very smart equipage, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:16 | |
you know, the equivalent today of a decent Mercedes, I suppose. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Booth assessed Reverdy Road as being "fairly comfortable". | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
The majority of houses contained two families, one living upstairs, one down. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
Cooking facilities were shared, and nobody had a bathroom. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Then, as now, Reverdy Road was slightly superior, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
a little posher, perhaps, than neighbouring streets, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
mostly working class, but very respectable working class. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
Census material tells us the kind of people | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
who were living here at the turn of the 19th century. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Charles Gibbs, born 1818, living on my own means. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:03 | |
Elizabeth Fences, widow, born 1849, with six children. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:10 | |
My name is Rebecca Newhouse. I'm 11 years old, I was born in 1880 and I'm a scholar. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
The most surprising thing about Reverdy Road is that it's hardly changed | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
since Booth had a look around in 1900. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
He found a street of hard-working people, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
most of whom were born in south London. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
And it's still not far off of that, is it? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Still not far off of that. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
There's not that many foreign people here, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
I would have thought, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
in relation to the area, in relation to the area. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
My brother, he's gone to middle class. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
He lives in Surbiton and he had a good job. He had brains. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
Went to a good school and got a good job | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
and earned a lot of money, and he's very comfortable. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
But I'm not. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
I'm not academic like he was, I'm more artistic, you know, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:12 | |
which doesn't earn you money. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
I wasn't good enough at that, anyway. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
But I'm working class. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
I gamble a bit. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
Bingo. Only once a week. But I like that. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Look at the camera, look! | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
Terrible. Sorry about that! | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
I'll tell you a funny thing. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
I've got a picture, taken by the South London Press, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
of my two daughters at the school. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
The photographers took the picture of all the schoolchildren. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
They'd grown flowers or something. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
And the caption to the photograph said, "These are the children from a deprived area. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
"They've probably never seen the sea and never seen a tree." | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
Bermondsey never seen a tree! | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
And we laughed, because that day, my two daughters had taken | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
pate de foie gras for their lunch break. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
120 miles to the north of Reverdy Road stands Alscot Hall, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
a rococo Gothic pile in the Warwickshire countryside | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
and once home to James West, former Secretary to the Treasury, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
now occupied by his descendant, Emma Holman West. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
Pretty special, isn't it? As I say to everyone, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
the day that I wake up and I don't enjoy the view is the day I need to retire. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
The West family had acquired a chunk of rural land in Bermondsey | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
in the mid 19th century and soon saw an opportunity | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
to profit from the population boom in London. They built 790 houses on that land. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:16 | |
This became known as the West Estate, part of which was Reverdy Road. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
The Wests were Victorian property developers. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
James West, who was married to Sarah, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
it was her family estate land. And basically Sarah's brother, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
who should have inherited, died, and so it then came to the Wests. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
It was basically farmland | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and it was part of the railways, and they had the river, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
and it's near where London Bridge is now. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
This map is a commercial map of London from 1807... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
Emma knows little about the building of the estate that bears her name. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
Most of the documents relating to it were donated years ago | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
to the John Harvard Library in Bermondsey. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Historian Stephen Humphries has brought back some of these documents to show her. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:10 | |
The estate has coloured in all its lands in pink and purple. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
The purple bits are going to be disposed of, but the pink bits, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:22 | |
including Reverdy Road, were kept down to 1960. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
And is there any reason where they decided to build? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
London was expanding, and by the 1860s, anything south of Southwark Park Road | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
was the next area in line to be developed. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-The value of it for building land was greater than it was for market gardens... -Sure. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
..or farming of any other sort. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
And do we know how the Wests financed the building of it? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
The usual way was to sell off chunks of the land on building leases, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
so the builder took the responsibility | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
for paying out all the money needed to build the houses. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
And then the builder would sell on the lease and get his money back, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
and the estate would then have the ground rents... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
-OK. -..which, on each house put together, would be vastly bigger | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
than what one meadow had had before. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Rents would vary according to which builder owned the lease. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
But people wanted to make a profit, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
so anyone wanting to live in this shiny new development needed proper employment. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
In the early years, there was a wide variety of occupations, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
ranging from a music publisher to an errand boy. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Florence Barker, draper's assistant, born 1871. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
There are 12 people living in this house, and my name is Tom Shepherd, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
and I was born here in 1867 and I work on the transport system. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
Tom Ashdown, born 1856, food and sanitary inspector. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:02 | |
So the West family were quite particular about renting | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
to people in employment, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
and to ensure their tenants enjoyed good spiritual health, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
James West helped fund the building of a church | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
in nearby Thorburn Square. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
In the late 1850s, a young curate called Thornton Wilkinson | 0:16:20 | 0:16:27 | |
was given the task of actually founding a congregation in this area. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
And Thornton Wilkinson did it by standing on street corners | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
and holding impromptu services. He'd done that for quite some time, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
very bravely, when a group of people who must have had some money | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
came to him one day and said, "Look, we've seen you, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
"we admire what you're doing, we'll build a church for you." | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
-He is in fact named on here. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
-JR West Esq. -Yep. -He's giving £100 | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
to the contributions for the new St Anne's Church. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
-Oh, right. -Which was to be built in Thorburn Square. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-It's on that map. -And is the church still there? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
There's still a church there, yes. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
He's giving twice as much as the Bishop of Winchester on this list. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
When Booth paid his visit in 1900, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
the vicar of St Anne's was a Mr Walsh. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
The vicar mentioned the reluctance of men to attend organised religion, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
saying, "It is no use blinking the fact | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
"that the bulk of our congregation are boys and women who cannot get the men to church." | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
So the women of Reverdy Road attended church regularly | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
and made a good impression on the vicar. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Perhaps it was the air of hard-working respectability | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
that led him to describe his parish as the Belgravia of Bermondsey. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
His wife had formed a different view | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
and spoke despairingly about her life in what she called | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
the desert of Bermondsey. Her middle-class snobbery about the local women was undisguised. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
The women think of themselves ladies. That is the word that expresses it best. Ladies. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:12 | |
It is terrible. What do they do? Well, it is very difficult to say. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
They're very difficult to classify, and most are a very mixed set. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:22 | |
Life down here is very hard for my daughters, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
as, except for the local clergy, there is no-one to know. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
Mr Stobart is a snob, and Mr Ainsworth is a cad. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
And as for the wife of the latter, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
she is an obnoxious person, impossible. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Poor Mrs Walsh, marooned amongst the proles with no-one to speak to. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
At the other end of the street, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Dr Cooper was able to bridge the class divide | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
as a popular GP and Member of Parliament. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
He died at home in 1909, after a late sitting in the House of Commons. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
By 1920, the surgery had been taken over by Dr Alfred Salter, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
a republican and pacifist. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
Dr Salter was born in Greenwich in 1873. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
He trained at Guy's Hospital | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and took up residence in the Bermondsey settlement in 1898. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
He married Ada in 1900. Writing to Ada just before they married, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
Alfred Salter said this. "I have no lingering hankering for the flesh bots of Sudbury | 0:19:30 | 0:19:37 | |
"or Guy's or Harley Street, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
"but I have sometimes quailed before the dull, interminable, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
"leisureless grind, the weary, monotonous treadmill of work | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
"that certainly awaits me if I have to practise down here | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
"among the working people of Bermondsey." | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Alfred considered himself to be a Christian missionary | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and described his work as a divine vocation | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
and said in a letter to his wife, Ada, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
"We are to be given over to the service of Bermondsey, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
"to be her faithful servants, to live for her, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
"if need be, to give our lives for her." | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
He began to work with Bermondsey Council on a mission | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
to put in place a radical set of public health measures. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Well, I knew about Dr Salter, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
because of the fact he used to... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
It was him who got the council | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
to send a van round with pictures. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
These vans used to open up the back | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
and they used to have a screen there, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and the pictures were health, hygiene, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
and all that kind of thing, you know - | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
keeping everybody sort of healthy. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
"You should always wash your hands." It showed your hands, sort of thing, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
and children walking about and things like that. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
As kids, we just sat there, stood there, watching it, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
until the thing was finished, they closed the things | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
and away they went to somewhere else. It was good. It was free pictures. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
Alfred Salter had started out as an idealistic young doctor. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
He made a big impression on Charles Booth, who met him in 1900 | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
and wrote the following. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
Mr Salter is above average - | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
a cheery, pleasant fellow, whose visits are more likely to be welcome | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
and much more tactful than many of his brother missionaries | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
in approaching the spiritual side of his task. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
The teetotal doctor liked to joke | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
that he charged publicans' wives double for his services. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Everyone else paid what they could afford. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
If they couldn't afford the treatment, it was free. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
He was a familiar sight, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
peddling the streets of Bermondsey on his bike, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and became immensely popular with his patients. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
If we are a little sick, Mother sends for Dr Khan. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
But if we are proper sick, she sends for Dr Salter. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
A man turned up to the surgery one day with his wife | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
and was told that Dr Salter was away but that he could see another doctor. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
However, the man said that no-one else would do for his wife, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
not even if it was the bloke who does for the Queen. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Bermondsey had the highest rates of scarlet fever in London. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Overcrowding and proximity to the river | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
meant this highly contagious bacterial illness spread rapidly | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
and often with deadly effect. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Today, it is easily treated with antibiotics, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
but in the early decades of the 20th century, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
scarlet fever was a killer. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Alfred and Ada lost their beloved daughter Joyce to the fever. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
She was eight years old. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
But their tragic loss did not deter them | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
from continuing their work in Bermondsey. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Alfred Salter never wavered | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
in his commitment to the people of the borough | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and he was most concerned to tackle the social conditions that give rise to illness, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
as revealed in another of his letters to his wife. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I've been paying numerous visits | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
to derelict families | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
all the afternoon and evening. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Several of the homes I've just been into have made me feel aghast | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
at my helplessness to lift their occupants | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
out of their existing poverty and squalor. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Oh, the cruelty and wickedness of this society today. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Like Dr Cooper before him, Salter embraced politics, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
first for Bermondsey Council and then as a Labour Member of Parliament. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
Ada was also a politician and became the Mayor of Bermondsey. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
The Salters were part of a political movement | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
that dominated the politics of the early 20th century. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
It could be called municipal socialism. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
They were intent on creating a new Bermondsey, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
a place with decent homes and green spaces, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
and they were intent on eliminating the diseases of poverty. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
People used to talk endlessly about the trees, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
which I believe Dr Salter...had trees planted. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Apparently, we were told as kids, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
it was one of the first areas in London that had trees, you know, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
working-class area, I suppose. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
Working with the council, the Salters were responsible for planting | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
more than 10,000 trees throughout the Borough of Bermondsey. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
Reverdy Road became tree-lined. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Alfred said of this venture, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
"The trees not only add to the beauty of the neighbourhood | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
"all through the spring, summer and autumn, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
"but the green matter of the leaves is purifying the atmosphere | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
"and helping to make Bermondsey a more healthy place." | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
The Salters' life of self-sacrifice gave hope to many. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Through their efforts, both medically and socially, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Bermondsey became a better place. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
The Salters, working with the council, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
had an ideological as well as a practical agenda. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
They wanted to demonstrate that they could build a local socialist republic in south London, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
even if it would be at odds with national government. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
The council built libraries, baths and parks. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
And their public health policies | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
included building the first solarium | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
to combat tuberculosis in Britain. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Those suffering more severe cases of TB | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
were sent to sanitaria in the Swiss Alps - | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
an unusual use of local authority money in the 1920s. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
That's one good thing he did. The solarium - | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
we called it the solarium - is still there. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Take the welfare. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
They used to have all the babies there | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
and weigh them there and whatever, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
and all my children went to get orange juice | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
and stuff like that there. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
But they really looked after you in them days. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Dr Salter did. I think he was a good man. I really do. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
You would go to the solarium, you were given spoonfuls of malt, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
I remember, tablespoons of malt. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
It was a great place, I think. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
It had a strange atmosphere about it, a strange smell, I remember. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
A kind of medical smell. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
The solarium offered artificial sunshine | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
to thousands of Bermondsey people. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Real sunshine was to be found in the summer in the fields of Kent. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
There was a long-established tradition | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
that each year, families would escape the grime of south London | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
and spend weeks picking hops for the beer trade. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
'Hop-picking is round again, and the family is setting out on its pilgrimage | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
'to the green fields of Kent. It's a thrill for the kids. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
'New things to see, new games to play, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
'new kids to meet and swap things with. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
'It's a break for Mum. Still plenty of work to do, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
'but she doesn't mind that when there's a change of scene and air to do it in.' | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
The popular perception is of chirpy Cockneys having a lark in the hop fields, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
getting fresh air and having a grand old time. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
It's seen a distant rural paradise, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
a taste of the simple joys of the countryside. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
But Bermondsey Council was having none of that. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
They produced their own film, a piece of propaganda | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
attempting to deter people from going to Kent to be exploited | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
by the brewing industry. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Families went down to the Kent hop fields, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
and it was regarded as a working holiday. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
You know, families didn't have much money, and that's what you did. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
When I was down there, my memory is of my mother with a long brush | 0:28:26 | 0:28:32 | |
trying to paint the back of my throat | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
and me trying to throw up. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
My mother was arguing with the farmer, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
demanding that he phone the local doctor. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
My mother spoke to him on the phone, and he got in his car | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
and drove straight down to Kent and gathered me up from my mother | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and brought us back. I remember being carried out of the house | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
into an ambulance in a bright red blanket. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
I had contracted diphtheria, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
which is a membrane growing over your throat. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
It sort of like suffocates you or strangles you. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Apparently, my mother told me later, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
they told them that there was no hope, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
that I was going to die that night. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
And then in the morning, the doctor said to her, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
"It's a miracle he's still alive. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
"But we don't know how or what's happening." | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
And, as you see, I survived. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
So that was a miracle, really, for which I'm grateful. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
Today, summer holidays are spent further afield than Kent, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
but there are still hops growing in Reverdy Road, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
a reminder of how the street's working-class families | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
used to spend their summers. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:44 | |
The tradition of Christian doctors continued | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
when William Mumford joined the Reverdy practice. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
He originally intended to be a foreign missionary but wrote in his diary, | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
"After I had been in Bermondsey for two years, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
"I felt very much that this foreign work wasn't the call after all. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
"I felt increasingly that I wanted to be as good a Christian doctor as I could be, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:12 | |
"working among ordinary people." | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
I had two children when I came to live here. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
And did you have more children while you were living here? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Yes, I had two more. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
And Dr Mumford came to me. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
The midwife delivered it, but he had to come and check on everything, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
make sure everything was all right. A nice man. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
He wasn't tall. A nice spoken man. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
I think they all are, aren't they? They all had college education. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
Didn't in those days, do you know what I mean? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
Only the rich got anywhere in those days, didn't they? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
The lady over the road, as I say, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
her mother lived downstairs, she lived upstairs, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
and she had a baby over there in there at the same time | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
I had my baby upstairs here. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
And we were holding our babies up, showing each other our babies. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Up at the windows, you know, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
talking to each other across from the bedroom. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
AIR-RAID SIREN WAILS | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
The Blitz started on the 7th of September, 1940. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
The nearby docks, the railway and local industry | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
all made Bermondsey a prime target for the Luftwaffe. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
The second bomb to fall in the Blitz fell at the end of Reverdy Road. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
Subsequently, five houses on the street | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
were destroyed by a German bomb. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Dr Mumford, still at Reverdy Road, wrote in his diary, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
"The populace of Bermondsey dropped from about 120,000 | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
"to 20,000 during the war. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
"But we kept the practice going. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
"Several of our Reverdy Road residents had direct experience of being bombed." | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
The air-raid siren had gone, and we ended up sheltering in a school. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
Then suddenly... they dropped a bomb on the school. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
Then all we could see was sky. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
See, all the debris had fallen on us, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and the man my mother was talking to was standing there dead. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
All my family stood up and not a scratch on us. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
Yet all the people were dead, and pieces of bodies, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
and all the debris all round us. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
And we stood up off that floor, shook the dust off - | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
what we could shake off - | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and not a scratch on any of us. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
It was exciting for kids, in some way. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
I mean, I was playing tin can copper - | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
you know, a can with two sticks and you throw a ball - with Wally Betts in Reverdy Road. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
We threw the ball, it hit the can, and the siren went. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
So I ran one way, picked up the can and sticks, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
and he ran the other way and picked up the ball. We shouted, "See you later, see you at the all-clear." | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
We both ran home. When the all-clear went, we came out and resumed. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
There is a gap on Reverdy Road, a hole where houses used to stand. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
One night during the Blitz, those houses were destroyed | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
by a German bomb. At the time, each house was fully occupied. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
Remarkably, nobody was killed. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Keith McLaren was two years old and living at number 12 with his parents | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
when the bomb dropped. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
Well, this was a house that we lived in | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
when I lived with my mother and father, obviously, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
as a baby and a very small child. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
Bombed out | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
and then moved just across the road behind us to number 17. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:29 | |
In Bermondsey, the fashion was for families to live close together. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
Keith's grandparents lived at number 17. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
Two-year-old Keith and his parents moved in with them. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Today, it's occupied by New Zealander Isolde Sommerfeldt. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
The people who lived in the house opposite, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
when they were bombed out, they came and lived here. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
And that's going to be amazing to meet them. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
They kind of felt that safe just moving across the road, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
so that'll be interesting to see what they have to say. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
It feels very strange to be standing in an empty space | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
where I used to live. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Keith grew up at number 17, living with both his parents and grandparents. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Eventually he got married to Maureen, and they had a son called Kevin. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
They moved from Reverdy Road to Kent in 1965. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
Today, all three of them are coming back | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
to see the house they once lived in. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
How little it's changed! | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
We've just gone back in time, quite honestly. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
We really have. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
-Eh, Kevin? -Yeah. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
It's just the same. It's a childhood memory for me, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
but it looks exactly the same. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Exactly. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
Was it what you would have called a working-class street? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Yes. Definitely. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
But it was always a nice road. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Yeah, it was. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
Wow! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
This is different. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
-It's so different. -It is. -So different. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
We said, as soon as we come in, we don't remember it being as narrow. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
It seems very narrow our there. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
It does. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
This was two rooms. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
This door was just like this. Obviously, this was the wall. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
And this... But it looks smaller! | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
It does, doesn't it! | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
Well, in this room, at one time, we had a small snooker table, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
a dartboard and a football game. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
And I don't know how it all got in there! In that area there! | 0:36:34 | 0:36:40 | |
It was me mum and dad who lived downstairs. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
When we got married, we lived upstairs. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
That's nice, so you were all together. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
And before that, before that, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
my nan and grandad lived upstairs, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
so when I was younger, it was Mum and Dad down here, and me, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
and Nan and Grandad upstairs. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Here, I always had a funny feeling. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
The sense of foreboding, shall we say? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
And if Keith's mum was out and Keith's dad were out, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
I was petrified. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
-Oh, dear! -You didn't want to know that, did you?! | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Kevin, when he was about five or six, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Keith's dad was looking after him, and he wanted something, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
one of his toys, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
and he came up here and he saw somebody, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
who shouted at him to go away, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
and he just literally laid down and put his hands over his head. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
He told me, but I never, ever said to him what I felt all the time. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:56 | |
Right. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
I don't feel it now. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
I think there are a lot of stories like this down this street. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
Yes, this is what we've heard since. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-Maybe they're just moving around, finding a home. -Yes. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
More than a million homes were damaged in London during the Blitz. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Given how close Reverdy Road is to the prime targets of the railway and the docks, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
it was fortunate that so few houses were destroyed. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Across the whole of Bermondsey, the council felt the Blitz damage | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
was an opportunity to continue the slum clearance | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
that had been one of the passions of Alfred Salter. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
In 1930, in the House of Commons, he'd said, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
"We intend, over the next 20 years, steadily and systematically | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
"to purchase the whole of the house property | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
"and rebuild the borough from end to end." | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Unfortunately, he didn't get to see the post-war rebuilding work, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
as he died in 1945. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
In Bermondsey, Alfred Salter is still held in high regard, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
and in 1991, a statue called Dr Salter's Dream | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
was unveiled by the Thames. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
It shows Alfred and his daughter, Joyce, and her favourite cat. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
In the post-war period, Reverdy Road was still fairly comfortable | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and ever so slightly up-market, despite having rudimentary sanitary arrangements. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
I had a bath hanging out in the garden on a hook on the wall. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
Tin bath. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
And every...Friday, I think it was, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
all the saucepans would be put on the gas stove | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
to boil the water with, and I'd have a bath then. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
But we never went in the bath one after another. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
We all had our own bath water. Some families, you shared the bath water. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:55 | |
My mum wouldn't have that. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Bathroom, no. We used to get the... what's its name, bath. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
You know, tin bath. Put it in front of the fire. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
And by the time the last person got in it... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
it was really black! | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Keith's mum and dad had the bath in the kitchen | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
with a cover over the top, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
but we used to go to my mum and dad's for a bath! | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
And before that up Bermondsey Baths as well. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Did you? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
Not me! Something was a bit awkward with Keith's mum and dad, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
to have a bath downstairs in their kitchen! | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
So what was the rent? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
26 shillings. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
A week? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
We paid a pound for upstairs, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
and your mum and dad paid six shillings at the time. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
Personal hygiene became quite the thing towards the end of the 1950s. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
People wanted running water and bathrooms. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
The move towards cleanliness was given a boost by the 1957 Rent Act. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
It abolished rent controls | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
but imposed certain new obligations on landlords. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
Why did your father decide to sell in 1960? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
From what I've heard, it was all to do with the new regulations | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
that were coming in with regards to bathrooms being put into the houses. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
Basically, Dad couldn't afford to do this, into that quantity of housing. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
And so he had no option but to put the estate up for sale. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
The West Estate comprises 797 houses, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
26 shops, 14 sites, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
6 factories, etc! | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
And the total income after deduction of rates | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
is £43,000 per year. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
It's being sold by auction. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
I remember reading in the South London Press that a mystery buyer | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
had bought West Estate, and nobody knew who it was, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
then it turned out he was acting on behalf of the council, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
and this caused an absolute uproar amongst the developers, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
cos they said it was cheating. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
I could never understand why it was cheating, but... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
the council said they bought the estate to prevent the developers coming in | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
and all the problems that would cause. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Bermondsey Council knew this was housing stock worth keeping. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
One change for the existing community was that the system | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
of subletting parts of houses to family members and friends | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
by informal word-of-mouth was now frowned upon. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
Everybody who lived in the street would have one of their family | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
living in the street or letting rooms upstairs to them, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
which kept the family close. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
It was only when the houses broke up and the council then moved us | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
to the Setchell Estate or the Bonamy Estate that it broke the families up. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
There was a fervour to modernise public housing, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
from the planning of it to the way it was allocated. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
It was supposed to be done without fear or favour, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
but in Bermondsey, there was a distinct tendency towards keeping local housing for local people. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:14 | |
If you wanted a council house, you'd go round the town hall. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Given that...lots of people moved out of Bermondsey anyway | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
during the war, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:23 | |
and there had been lots of empty properties at the end of the war, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
you know, you had a fair chance. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
To you, you are the top priority, obviously, but to us... | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
'As you got to the counter, they asked | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
'what your connection was with Bermondsey. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
'If you had none - reject. Next. It went like that.' | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
There was a policy to keep Bermondsey for Bermondsey people? | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
Definitely. Absolutely sure of that. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
And I think Robert Mellish, the MP, he was accused of that. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
They said it was pure parochialism, you know, outsiders were kept out. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
I absolutely believe that, yeah. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
I absolutely believe it was right, by the way. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
Everybody in Bermondsey would agree with that policy, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
and I'm sure it was true. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
You didn't have many coloured people here, not many immigrant families. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:08 | |
It was that policy, you know. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
So whereas, like, Peckham and Southwark, it was all immigrants, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
here was a sea of white faces, you know, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
because it was the policy of the council. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Not because they were black but because they were outsiders, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
you know, not part of Bermondsey. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
We were insular people. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
My grandmother, for example, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
had never been out of Bermondsey. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
She'd never been over Tower Bridge even, you know. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
She'd never been through Rotherhithe Tunnel. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Why would she want to go there? She was happy here, you know! | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
It wasn't a paradise, but you know what I mean - people belong. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
People were more parochial in those days, I suppose. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
The isolation of Bermondsey was dealt a blow | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
when a Conservative government decided to reorganise London local authorities. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
The Borough of Bermondsey was swallowed up by a neighbour in 1965. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
Southwark took over then, Ted Heath merged us with Southwark, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
and the housing list went up from 70 to 70,000, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
you know, which was, by any measure, a disaster. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
We'd lost our insularity, if you like. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
In 1980, public housing policy changed forever. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
A radical Conservative government decided that | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
every council tenant should be given the right to own their own house. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
Legislation was introduced, giving people the right to buy | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
from the local authority, and at a knockdown price. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
The Belgravia of Bermondsey looked like a good investment. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
I bought this one. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
Do you mind me asking how much you paid for it? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
Do you want me to tell you? | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
-In confidence. -OK. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
You could scrub it. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
Some people like to go into a house | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
and, as it is, they want to put their own mark on it. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Do it as they want. So... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
I just leave it as it is. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
I'm happy here. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
And we put in the register - the right to buy thing - | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
I think it was 14,000, 14,600, or something like that. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:28 | |
I can see social objections and the reasons for them, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
because council housing is moving into private ownership. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
Soon there'll be no council houses. I can understand that. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
But then you're in individual living in a society | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
where you've got to look after yourself. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
Nobody else will, so we looked after ourselves by buying it, you know. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
My sister, who lives down here across the road, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
she bought hers, and it was at such a low price. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
But, erm...I was on carer's money, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
which was about £55, £60 a week. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
Looking after me son and me mum and dad. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
And I couldn't afford it. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
And they never had a lot of money. And we wasn't rich enough. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
It was just a shame. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
House prices have continued to rise, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
and so the character of Reverdy Road has changed. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
Only 40% of the houses are still owned by the council. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
Reverdy Road there. And here's Southwark Park Road. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
Younger people are moving in - | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
professional people attracted by the proximity to central London and the City. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
People like Stacey Cox. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
When I pulled up with a moving van on day one, the neighbours | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
across the street came across to welcome me to the neighbourhood | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
and as soon as they heard the accent, they said, "Why did you move here?" | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
But also I thought this area was supposed to be | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
an up-and-coming neighbourhood. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
They were redeveloping Bermondsey Street, Bermondsey Square. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
And of course it's close to central London. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
We're just on the border of Zone 1, Zone 2, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
so it's easy for me to get into work. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
Across the road from Stacey's one-bedroom flat is number 62. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:26 | |
The tenant recently died, and the council have put the house up for auction. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
Stacey wants to upgrade. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
TOILET FLUSHES | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
The toilet flushes. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:38 | |
This is a really large bathroom, actually. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
This paper reminds me of the paper in my flat across the street | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
when I bought it. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
Nice and dark. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
As you can see, the curtains don't match at all. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
It just really makes this room feel almost like a cave. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
We want it as a family home. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
And our objective is to go and bid on Monday. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
There's old pieces of paper under here. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
I could find all kinds of good things under these floorboards. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Something about the BBC. It is saying, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
"If this is entertainment on a grand scale, then the BBC might as well pack in." | 0:49:24 | 0:49:29 | |
Hey! | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
Basically, after I buy this property, I'm going to have to do | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
a full search to see what I want to save before the builders come in, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
because it will all then go in the skip, won't it? | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
I feel quite sad sometimes when I see some of the elderly people | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
who I know around here, because once they go, you know | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
that those houses, cos they're not owned by the council now, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
they saved up and bought their houses and cherished them, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
they'll go to the estate agents, and that's when things are really going to change. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
It's down to whether you can afford it now. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
The properties for sale in these areas is way beyond... | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
I mean, my children...and we're talking about ten years ago, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
my children could not buy anywhere in Bermondsey. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
Most of my friends and families have children | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
-that have all had to move out of Bermondsey. Forced out. -That make you sad? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
That makes me very sad, yeah. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
The West family sold the estate in 1960. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
Emma brought her son, the ninth James West, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
to see what the family once owned and to meet some of their former tenants. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
-Hello! -Hello. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
-How are you? -Good, thank you. How are you? | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Hello, I'm Emma. And this is James. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Hello, James. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
And they brought you some cakes. My girls have made some cakes. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:03 | |
-Hello. Tracy? -Hello! | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
-Hi. Emma. Good to meet you. -Hi. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
-Emma. Nice to meet you. You're Mike. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
-And this is James. -Come in. -Thank you. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
Wow, this looks incredible! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
I hear you've got lots to tell me. I'm fascinated. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
It's always been a business premises. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
Please tell me about that. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:22 | |
Way back, it was a moneylenders, I do know that, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
because the little window in the front there, in the front gateway, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
-they used to lend the money out through the window. -Oh, OK! | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
That's pretty amazing. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
So would this have been the original loo? Sorry. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Don't open it, please! | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
No, no, no. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
The reason I'm interested in it - I'm not going to look in, don't panic - | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
is because one of the main reasons our family sold up | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
was because all the bathrooms were outside, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
and we couldn't afford to put them all inside. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
-Really? -Yeah, in the '60s. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
So what else is in this house's history? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
During the war, the 1939 war, right, he had a haulage contract business. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:07 | |
And he used to have horses - big grey horses out there in the yard. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
-They were lovely. -Where did you keep the horses, Elsie? | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
-Where did he keep them? -Mm. -In the backyard! | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
It's got a story to tell, hasn't it? | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
It's fantastic what you've done. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
It's just not like living in London in any of these houses, is it? | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
Well, totally. It's so... Again, it's so very quiet. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
-Exactly what I've being saying all day. -Down this road. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
It is huge! | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
James can touch him - I'm not very good at stuff like that. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
What kind of lizard is it? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
-A bearded dragon. -I'll be daring. OK. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
How do you feel about coming back to your family history, then? | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
I'm totally overwhelmed, if you want me to be honest. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
It's fantastic. I love where you live. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
-Yeah, so do we. -It's fab. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
I know it's a really cliched thing to say - I feel like I'm coming home. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
It's left a lasting impression that will never be forgotten, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
and I think I was saying to Mark earlier, | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
it makes me want to sell up our flat where we live in London at the minute, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
cos my husband works in the City, and actually buy a house down here | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
and come back. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
-Seriously? -Yeah, I really mean that. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
-You'd seriously buy a house in Reverdy Road? -Yeah, I would in this area. Come back to the West Estate. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
I feel really strongly about it. It's twitched something in me. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
Lot 12 is 62 Reverdy Road in Southwark SE1. Freehold. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:37 | |
Two floor, end-of-terrace house. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
Selling this by order of the London Borough of Southwark. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
Where shall we start the bidding? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
Reverdy Road and the surrounding streets are now highly desirable, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
and the cash-strapped council are selling them off as soon as they become vacant. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
Stacey wants to buy number 62 and raise a family there, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
but she's competing against a roomful of property developers. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
At £319,000, selling for the first time. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
319,000 for the second time. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
Third, last time. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
Sold. £319,000. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Stacey didn't have the financial muscle | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
and lost the house to a property investor - | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
somebody who sees a quick profit in a Victorian house | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
rather than a permanent part of the community. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Number 62 Reverdy Road was home to three families in 1891. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
By 1911, it was home to one family, headed by a police officer, James Lowder. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:37 | |
Now it's been bought from the council by a property developer. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:43 | |
After renovation, it will sell for close to half a million pounds. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:48 | |
One house costing more than all 797 houses together | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
when the council bought them in 1960. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
In my younger days, these properties were not wanted at all. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
Everybody wanted to get out of the old houses and get into the new places, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
and now it's completely circled again. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
If you was to offer anybody a flat or one of these houses, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
I would've said 99.9 would jump at one of these houses. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
Bermondsey is quite chic now, and all is changing on Reverdy Road. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:29 | |
Prices have gone up, and people with money and interior design plans are moving in. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:35 | |
Gentrification has finally arrived. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
If Booth came to Reverdy Road today, he might upgrade it from pink | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
perhaps to red or even yellow, and if he took a stroll by the river, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:50 | |
which used to be blue and black, meaning poor and semi-criminal, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
he'd certainly upgrade it. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Today this is an area of swanky apartments and business developments. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
Even so, not all the criminals have left. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
This was the statue of Dr Salter, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
and you can see where it was fixed to the seat, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
and recently some thieves came and stole it. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
Local people have got together to form some association | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
to either try and recover the statue, which I think is highly unlikely, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
or get a new one commissioned. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Alfred has no doubt been melted down, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
but at least his daughter and cat were spared | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
and have been taken into protective custody. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
The surgery on Reverdy Road closed in 1994. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
Max Gammon is the last in a long line of doctors who have lived here | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
and served the people of Bermondsey. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
I do believe it is the end of an era. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
I'm the last of a line, really, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
and so I'm very satisfied - and very privileged - | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
to have been the last doctor to live in this house. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
All nice people. They really are. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
No, if I chose to live anywhere, it'd be down this street. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
Next week, we go to Arnold Circus. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
It's like walking into, I don't know, somewhere so different. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
A Victorian model village in the heart of the East End. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
And you would get six of the best if you misbehaved. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
It hurt. Left marks on your buttocks, as most of us never wore underpants! | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
A haven in the heart of the city. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
Home, sweet home. Hello, Mum. Hello, Dad. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
To discover more about Britain's Secret Streets, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
the Open University has produced a free guidebook. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
Go to... | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
..and follow the links to the Open University. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
Or call... | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
THEY PLAY JAZZ | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
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