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40 years ago at the height of the Cold War, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
these nuclear submarines were locked in battle against the Soviet Navy. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
Their crews were bound by a code of silence, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
forbidden to tell their families where they were going or what they were doing. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Deep in the oceans, submariners from three navies, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
British, American and Soviet, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
played cat and mouse on the front line of the Cold War. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
I was obsessed with the Soviets. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
The whole idea was to go in and put a decisive blow and walk away. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
The Cold War superpowers pledged to reduce their arsenals of nuclear weapons. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
But beneath the waves, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
Soviet and Western submarines spied on each other, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
hunted each other down | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
and prepared to fight a war with enough firepower to destroy civilisation. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
In that ship we had more explosive power | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
than all the weapons dropped in World War Two. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
And we're talking about both sides now. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
This was a secret war | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
driven by espionage to maintain the tactical advantage. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Can you tell how many propellers it has? Yes. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Can you tell how many blades are on each propeller? Yes. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Does one of them have a nick in it? Yes. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
For over 40 years the details of this Cold War stand-off | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
have been a closely guarded secret. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
We're in a submarine that actually could sink him in three minutes. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
He would have difficulty sinking us. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Now the story can be told. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Captain speaking. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
We shall be going from Plymouth towards the nearest point in the ice edge, north of Iceland. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
The submarines of the 1950s had hardly changed | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
since the days of the Second World War. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
But Soviet, American and British sailors didn't mind. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Joining up felt like a special calling. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
It's a club, it's a small club, and it's great to be a member of it. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
# No other love | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I can probably tell you fairly rapidly | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
whether a chap is a submariner after ten minutes of conversation or not. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
# Now that I've known... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
# Every time, every time... | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
He said, "Honey, I really don't want to leave you | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
but it's just something I have to do. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I want you to know I don't want to go." | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
I say, "OK." He gets upstairs, he's packing and I hear... | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
SHE WHISTLES | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
He's happy as a clam! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
# ..to glory in your kiss... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
Good company. And good pay. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
And we had extra food, special food, called submarine comforts. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Things like tinned sausages, that was a luxury in those days. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Still had rationing in this country. And fruit juice. Absolutely amazing. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
Good life. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
On the surface, submarines were still powered by diesel engines. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Under water, rechargeable batteries took over. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
The maximum sort of speed underwater was sort of 15 or 16 knots | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
and you could do that for about ten minutes, the battery ran out. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Oxygen was limited so the submarine could stay submerged for no more than 20 hours. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
Water was rationed. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
The captain used to say, "I will use the basin," which is about so wide and about so deep, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
"first in the morning and have my shave | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and you make such use of what I leave in the pan afterwards." | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
So that was it. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-So you would wash in his shaving foam? -So we didn't wash. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Echo classified submarine. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Submarine, surfacing on the fourth quarter, sir. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
The diesel submarine's limitations | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
meant they were often reduced to acting as training targets | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
for sonar operators on Nato ships. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Submarine altering course towards us. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
It was known as "ping running". | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Ping running is when the submarine runs for a surface ship | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
who pings on him with his active sonar | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
and it was a very basic, boring way of spending the time. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
We were really acting very much as the loyal opposition in those days | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
and without a particularly warlike role. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
From sturding to Captain Deezer, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
thank you for the Royal Salute, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
and regret we must consider ourselves sunk. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
In the Cold War stand-off between East and West | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
the battle for supremacy was taking place on land, not on the high seas. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:54 | |
In 1956, the Soviet Union invaded Hungary. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
For the West, this was an ominous sign that the Soviet still had ambitions beyond the Iron Curtain. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:09 | |
Well, it's easy to forget now what the Cold War was like. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
I mean, we lived with a threat from the Soviet Union | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
right up until the fall of the Berlin Wall. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Nato's conventional forces were far outnumbered by the Red Army. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
The West saw America's long-range nuclear weapons | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
as an essential deterrent to Soviet aggression. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
You have to go back and think about how attractive nuclear weapons, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
if you could maintain an advantage, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
how attractive that prospect was for a NATO alliance | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
that perceived that it could never defend Western Europe conventionally. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Anything that could give you the promise of compensating for that, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
and that would preserve basically the status quo, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
was incredibly attractive. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
But in 1957 the Soviets launched Sputnik. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
If they could send a satellite into space | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
they would soon be able to launch nuclear ballistic missiles | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
against mainland America. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
"As Sputnik whirled around the globe, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
American citizen bases became as vulnerable to Soviet threat | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
as Soviet defences had been in the past to the nuclear strike power of America." | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
It gets the American people alarmed that a foreign country, especially an enemy country, can do this. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
I think it's a very bad thing to have around. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-To have these satellites going round? -That's right. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
As Sputnik went up | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
the Russians were launching missiles more successfully | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
than the US was at the time. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
We fear this. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
We fear that they have something out there that the majority don't know about. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
Western Europe could no longer rely on America's land-based nuclear missiles. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
President Eisenhower looked to the navy for a new way to defend the West. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
President Eisenhower said he wanted to be able to shoot a ballistic missile from sea. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
We had no missile, we had no warhead, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
we had no guidance system, we had no submarine. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
The US Navy launched a massive programme | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
to build a new kind of submarine, capable of launching nuclear missiles. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
# You keep saying you got something for me | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
This is a simplified schematic drawing of a nuclear propulsion plan. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
The part of the navy that Eisenhower liked was the part that had nuclear in it. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
And so this was where the money was, this is what the future was, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
this is what the West's strategy was at the time. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
# These boots are made for walking | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
# And that's just what they'll do | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
# One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Submariners were back in business. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
What are we going to do on Thanksgiving? We're going to work, that's what we're going to do! | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Your family just almost ceased to exist, you know. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
But we got through it. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
# These boots are made for walking | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
# And that's just what they'll do | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
We were the pioneers for the finest weapon system on earth. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
The nuclear reactor gave the submarine limitless power. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
Twice the speed of a diesel submarine, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
it could also produce its own water and oxygen supplies. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
As long as there was enough food it never had to surface. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Going from diesel to nuclear was like going from riding a bicycle to driving a Formula One. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Armed with Polaris nuclear warheads, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
the missile submarine was capable of destroying Soviet cities | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
at a range of more than 2000 miles. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
In that ship we had more explosive power | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
than all the weapons dropped in World War Two. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
And we're talking about both sides now. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
It's a terrible responsibility. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
The modern submariner. A new breed. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Young, technically oriented. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Make your depth 200 feet. Make your depth 200 feet. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Hidden in the ocean, impervious to Soviet attack, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
submarine crews were now on the front line of the Cold War. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
I said, "This sounds dangerous to me," | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and he said, "I am far safer than you will ever be staying at home." | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
He said, "I don't know what's going to happen to you, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and I don't know what's going to happen to this country, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
but nothing's going to touch me. I'm... | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Where I am they can't get me." | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
The defence of the Western world | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
was now in the hands of a small band of young American submariners. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
It was a tremendous deterrent that was always available to the National Command Authority. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
We felt proud about that and I think the country did also. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The Soviet Union was racing to produce its own missile submarine programme | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
but it was beset with engineering problems. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
The Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
needed a land-based launch site within range of the United States. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
In the late summer of 1962, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Khrushchev sent as many as 40 ballistic missiles to Cuba. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
And provoked the worst crisis of the Cold War. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
It shall be the policy of this nation | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
against any nation in the western hemisphere | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Four diesel submarines, known as Foxtrots, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
were sent to defend the Soviet forces in Cuba. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Each was armed with a nuclear-tip torpedo. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Enough firepower to destroy the American fleet. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Anatolii Andreev was a young submariner on one of the four Soviet submarines. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
As the Soviet Foxtrots neared Cuba, | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
the American fleet was lying in wait. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
We knew they were coming. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
We had known for weeks because of our detection capabilities, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
including our sound surveillance system | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
which was top secret at the time. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Unknown to the Soviets, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
the Americans had placed a 3000 mile transatlantic cable | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
deep on to the ocean bed. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
It was known as SOSUS. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Devised after the Second World War, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
SOSUS was an early warning system for any approaching enemy Navy. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
Fixed on the cable was an array of highly sensitive sonars. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
As the four Soviet Foxtrot submarines entered the Atlantic, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
SOSUS could detect the sound of the submarines | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and pinpoint their position. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
The Soviet submarines were forced to stay underwater | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
with no way of replenishing their dwindling air supplies. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Our orders were simply to harass them to bring them to the surface | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
and we were very, very good at that. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
They knew we were right on top of them. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Our sonar could be used as an offensive weapon essentially. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
We could turn up the volume and the amplitude of the sound | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
that we could transmit | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
and bounce off the hull of a submarine was immense. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Starved of oxygen and overwhelmed by two days of constant pounding, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
the Soviet submarines were finally forced to surface. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
They didn't really stand a chance. We had them outnumbered. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Our skill levels were extremely high, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
and I felt sorry for them in a sense. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
I welcome Chairman Khrushchev's decision dismantling offensive weapons, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
returning them to the Soviet Union under UN verification. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Vladimir Chernavin was a young submariner during the Cuban Crisis. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
He would later become commander-in-chief | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
of the Soviet Navy. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
The Foxtrot crews would find no heroes' welcome on their return home. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
Determined never to be humiliated again, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
the Soviet leadership instructed their shipyards | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
to build a new class of nuclear submarine | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
that could retaliate in the event of an American nuclear attack. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
The whole idea was in some sense driven by Soviet vulnerability. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
We're in this very dangerous competition, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
we're at a great disadvantage, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
we really have to achieve parity with the US Navy that have been, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
you know, for ten years outbuilding us and had these advantages. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
We have to catch up. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
In just five years the Soviet Union built 34 nuclear-powered missile submarines. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:55 | |
They called the new class Project 667-A. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Western submariners dubbed the submarine the Yankee. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
The theory of nuclear deterrence between the superpowers | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
was known as Mutually Assured Destruction. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Many people preferred the acronym MAD. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
# This is the story of the land of the free | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
# And what we have done for your security | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
# For the greatest thing you must agree | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
# Is that you be safe in the land of the free | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
# Safe as can be | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
The Soviets could go after our bomber bases, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
they could go after our bombers, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
they could go after our land-based missiles. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
# So then we showed that we had the means | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
# To launch our missiles from submarines | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
# We sent the subs far across the sea | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
# For retaliatory capability | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
But they couldn't go after the submarines. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
# But then they got the same sort of thing | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
# With all that power would any state | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
# Dare to tempt such a horrible fate | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
# Balance of terror | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
The nuclear submarine was the ideal weapon to apply the calculated logic of Cold War strategy. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:21 | |
When the ballistic missile submarine came along | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
it was like this perfect match | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
between these theories about trying to seek a kind of balance. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
You can see unfolding a period of not instability but complete stability. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
We wanted to make sure we could properly deter action | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
that would be bad for the world, not just for our country. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
In 1966 the Royal Navy joined the nuclear club | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
when it launched the first of four ballistic missile submarines. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
Britain's submarine force would now work alongside the United States | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
to deter the Soviet Union. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
The British and American submarine service relationship was extremely close. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
We talked about almost everything, and we shared information, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
and we had something to offer. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Britain's bases in western Scotland would now harbour US and British submarines | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
before they headed into the Atlantic. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Right. Pipe action stations, set condition 1SQ. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
Polaris missiles had a range of 2500 miles. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
Submarines could hide far from the Soviet Union and still remain a threat. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
Launcher prepared. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
They would be a continuous presence. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Ready to launch, 365 days a year. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
If you consider the Doomsday scenario, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
which is that the UK has been taken out by a nuclear strike, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
there are instructions on board which tell you what you are then supposed to do. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
Navigation ready. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
The envelope was kept in a safe in my cabin behind my bunk. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
So I slept alongside it | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
and all the other material in that safe every time I lay down. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:34 | |
It came from the Cabinet office. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
I think it gave instructions about | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
whether you were to fire your missiles and if so what targets. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Well, I must have sorted it out in my mind at some stage | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
and talked to Toby about it | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
and if he's happy with what he's doing that's OK. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
I didn't dwell on it because how can you? | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
The potential targets for British, American and Soviet missile submarines | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
were always a closely guarded secret. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Patrols were classified. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Few were allowed to know the submarine's location. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Hopefully the navigator knew where you were. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
But the nearest thing you got was you knew the seawater temperature. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
That gave you the nearest indication | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
of am I in the Tropics or am I in the Arctic or what. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
Critical to the success of the deterrent | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
was the submarine's ability to remain undetected by the enemy. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
The prime reason for remaining undetected | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
was because you wanted to be sure as you went into missile launch mode, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:21 | |
that a Soviet submarine that might have been trailing you | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
wouldn't then fire a torpedo and take you out. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Staying hidden meant remaining quiet. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Crews were rigorously trained in what was called "noise hygiene". | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Submariners, it's drummed into them from the first day to the last | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
that by dropping a spanner at the wrong moment you're capable of getting yourself sunk. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
If a spanner hits a metal deck, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
the noise will be transmitted through the hull of a submarine into the ocean. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
Sound travels easily through water | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
and enemy sonar would pick up the sound of the spanner. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
Britain and America rubber-insulated their decks | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
to ensure no sound was transmitted outside the submarine. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
Machinery connected to the hull was suspended on rubber mounts. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
New recruits quickly learned the difference between sounds that could be transmitted into the ocean | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
and the ambient noise of voices that stayed inside the submarine. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
My first day at sea, I always remember this. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
It was a Sunday and, er, there was a church service on board. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
But somebody mentioned to me they give you a free drink so I went down to it. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
And then after it had finished, after we'd been singing these hymns, which were quite loud, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
I went from 1 Deck down to 2 Deck on a ladder | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
and stumbled at the bottom and fell and I made a bit of noise | 0:27:49 | 0:27:55 | |
and the first lieutenant shouted at me, "You're making a lot of noise there." | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
And I thought, that's funny because we'd just been singing for the last hour, you know. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
I used to do a lot of chess myself | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
and the winner would win a packet of cigarettes. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
# Hold on honey I'd like to say | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
# I'm busting out and breaking away | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
On a boat, you're on a tin can, underwater for months on end, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
and it becomes very close knit. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
# Think about how it's gonna be | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
The only way you identified the days that were going by | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
was you got grapefruit segments on Sunday, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
you got mushrooms on Wednesday. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
Food was critical. We had steak once a week. We would have things like lobster once a week. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
We had frogs' legs way too often. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
This time I shall not fail! | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Oh ye gods, help me! | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Crews stayed submerged for two months. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
# Get out of my space | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
# Leaving now | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
# I'm leaving now | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
The nuclear stalemate between the Soviet Union and the West | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
failed to deter Soviet aggression in Europe. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
I was duty minister in the summer of 1968 | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
with the forecast from Nato | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
that there would be no invasion in the immediate future, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and was woken up in the early morning | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
to be told that they had invaded with Russian tanks into Czechoslovakia. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
"Heavy tanks rolled through the streets of Prague | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
as Russian, Polish and Hungarian troops carry out their cold-blooded occupation of Czechoslovakia." | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
We had an enemy and a serious enemy | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
and we were in ideological conflict | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
with the Soviet Communism all through the Cold War. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:11 | |
By 1970 the rapidly expanding Soviet fleet | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
had further fuelled Western insecurity. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
I couldn't think why they were building so many ships and submarines | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
unless they wanted to use them offensively one day | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
so it didn't seem like a defensive force. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
At Northwood military headquarters in north London, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
naval intelligence devised a new strategy | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
to locate and follow all Soviet missile submarines. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:04 | |
If war broke out, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
the West would sink the submarines before they could launch their warheads. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
An organisation was set up known as Task Force 311. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
I was the operations officer for two years | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
and I ran many, many operations | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
out of Northwood prosecuting Soviet submarines. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
SOSUS, the Americans' secret underwater surveillance system, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
remained critical to Western strategy. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Naval intelligence knew that with a missile range of just 1300 miles | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
the Soviet Yankee submarines had to cross the Atlantic | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
before they could threaten American cities. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
As they entered the Atlantic, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:49 | |
they still had no idea that SOSUS had located them. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
And SOSUS had improved. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
It was now so sensitive | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
it could differentiate between the frequencies emitted by each submarine. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
If naval intelligence could identify the frequencies SOSUS detected, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
they would always know what type of Soviet submarine was entering the Atlantic. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:14 | |
That became the job of both American and British nuclear submarines in the Cold War, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
which is to acquire those signatures from Soviet submarines | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
so that they could be put into a database that would be maintained and updated. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
That would enable SOSUS to maximise its effectiveness. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
To record a Soviet submarine's acoustic signature | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
meant shadowing it at close quarters. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
A new kind of submarine was needed. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
The hunter killer. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
They were weapons of war. They're dark, they're black. They're aggressive. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
They look evil, and the whole idea was to go in and put a decisive blow and walk away. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
The hunter killer was smaller and stealthier than the missile submarine. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
It was also nuclear powered so could stay submerged indefinitely, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
shadowing enemy ships. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
It was a complete revolution. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
The whole concept of operations now allowed you to get in close enough | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
to get a good readout from this signature, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
which you recognised as only emanating | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
from the particular sort of target that you were looking for | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
so it was almost possible to fingerprint each submarine. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
In 1975 Britain and America released their hunter killers into the Atlantic. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
"We're going north," that was the phrase. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
We're going to make a northern run. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:47 | |
When? In the fall. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
OK. Make your plans now. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
I used to say a quiet prayer and hope that it all went well. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
A large number of the operations were extremely highly classified. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
The intelligence they collected was always known as "the take". | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
The whole boat was in quiet mode. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Everybody on the vessel was told to walk around in their stockinged feet, you know. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
No stomping about. If you didn't have to move, don't. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Stay in bed. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
It was all about trying to get close to them. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
It was a whispered excitement. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
SOSUS could guide the hunter killer into the area of the ocean | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
where the enemy had been detected. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Then the sonar crews had to identify the submarine's noise signature. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
Bearing node 116. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Sitting at the sonar stack with the headphones on, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
scanning the water back and forth | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
and if you get to a part that sounds different than the rest of it | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
that could be a submarine. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Bearing node 113. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
Very quiet, not really so much as a tone, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
just sort of a ssssshhhh, a different sound in the water. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Can you tell how many propellers it has? Yes. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Can you tell how many blades are on each propeller? Yes. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Does one of them have a nick in it? Yes. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
We have phase one audible on track 296. Possible dangerous contact. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
That is what you listen for. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
You can tell the difference by the rhythmic beats | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and on the rhythmic beats is one stronger than the rest. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
If one's stronger than the rest there's some sort of damage to that particular blade of the propeller. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
There really wasn't a lot of sound to hear, it was more like low hums. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
Bearing 111. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
But very quietly. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
Once they had found the submarine, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
the hunter killer closed in on its prey. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
So you'd get in behind the Soviet submarine | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
recording all the radiated noises from the submarine, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
then usually one of the sonar riders would come out and say, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
"No, no, we didn't get enough, we need more." | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Sometimes the captain would say, "We'll make another run at it." | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Sometimes he'd say a bad word and say, "You've got enough." | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
You weren't fighting the submarine, you were fighting the bloke who was driving it, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
and therefore you had to focus on what these people were like. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
It's all about trying to outwit your opponent. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
And that game of chess, if you want to call it that, to me was fascinating. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
Closing, increasing. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
American and British submariners knew that their ability to go undetected at close quarters | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
gave them the tactical advantage over the Soviets. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
Although our numbers theoretically were lower than theirs, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
in fact, it certainly convinced me that we were in a position to win a shooting war | 0:38:54 | 0:39:00 | |
against the Soviet submarine service, yes. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Collecting intelligence on Soviet submarines wasn't without risks. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
We were very conscious that what we were doing was somewhat dangerous. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
Frank Turvey was a young engineering officer on a British hunter killer submarine. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
Its crew of 98 had been at sea for five weeks. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
One night when I went on watch, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
I left my sleeping area, my bunk space, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
and I had to walk through the control room. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Everything looked good and we were in silent mode. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
About 25 minutes past midnight there was an awful bang. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:04 | |
And crushing and scraping. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
And we were pushed right over in our chair...chairs, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
about 74 degrees, so we were almost on our backs. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
There were alarms on all of the panels, bells ringing, red lights flashing. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:26 | |
The submarine had lost much of its electrical power. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
The severe listing had also damaged some of its engineering equipment. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
But a strange thing happened to me. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
When I was at school we had a great Latin teacher. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
One of the sentences he diagnosed in detail. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
Una salus victus nonum sparare salutem. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
The one hope of the defeated | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
is not to think about your safety. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Do the right thing. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
For the next three hours | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
Turvey and his team of engineers fought to stabilise the submarine. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
Only later did he ask what had happened. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
We were told as far as I remember that we collided with ice. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
An iceberg. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
And, er, that was it. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
What did you think when you were lying in your bunk? | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
I suppose I thought that I was, and all of us, we were lucky. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:55 | |
And er... | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
I, er, in situations like that you think of family a lot. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
I did. Erm... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
And I could look forward to... | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
It's become known now that during my tenure | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
one of our submarines was quite badly damaged. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
I mean, its conning tower was not quite destroyed but very seriously bent. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
And of course we lied about how it had happened | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
and just said that now it is known it had hit a Soviet submarine | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
because it was shadowing it. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
Now, boys will be boys | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
and there was an element of just going off and doing this for bravado | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
and we needed to curb some of it and I think some of it was curbed. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
The Ministry of Defence has never confirmed any collision with a Soviet submarine. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
Operational details remain classified. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
On their return home, American, British and Soviet crews | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
were forbidden to talk about their patrols. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
# No other lips | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
# Could want you more | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
I didn't know very much because he never told me very much. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
I knew he was at sea, and I knew he would be gone for three months | 0:43:37 | 0:43:43 | |
and they knew that, and that was it, that was it. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
I was so excited about him coming home, it had been three months, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
so I made this big plaque that said "Tonight's the night", | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
and I took it down and waved it over the pier. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
Well, I was frowned on. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
-Who frowned on you? -All the Admirals and their wives. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
What did they think was going to happen? | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
I think they thought we were going to have sex. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
# The wonder of your smile | 0:44:37 | 0:44:45 | |
In 1974, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
East and West agreed to reduce their arsenals of nuclear ballistic missiles. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
But at sea, western naval intelligence learned of a new threat. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
The most dangerous ship in the Soviet Fleet, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
a 40,000 ton aircraft carrier called the Kiev. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:10 | |
Along with fighter aircraft, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:13 | |
the Kiev had eight Cruise missiles, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
each eight times more powerful | 0:45:17 | 0:45:18 | |
than the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
We were dealing with some pretty big bits of kit. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
There was a slight sort of apprehension verging on fear | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
that the Soviet fleet were flexing their muscles. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
The carrier was also faster than any submarine. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Within 18 hours of leaving territorial waters, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
she would be capable of launching her missiles on Europe. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
I name this ship Swiftsure. May God bless her and all who sail in her. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:57 | |
In early 1977, Britain's newest hunter killer submarine, HMS Swiftsure, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
was sent north to find the Kiev and record her acoustic signature. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:12 | |
Swiftsure was an operational submarine who'd done all its tricks and was ready, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
and what's more, about to go on front line deployment. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
Oh, it's exciting. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
I always found sailing extremely difficult, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
leaving your family knowing that there was going to be | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
a very significant challenge ahead. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
There was a feeling that perhaps in the back of our minds, Soviets were eight foot tall. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
We wanted to bring them down to five foot nine, which is probably the average. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
Swiftsure was heading for the Barents Sea, home to the vast Soviet northern fleet. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:22 | |
The only way you could detect the potential enemy | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
was going there close up and covertly. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
And when they're operating in their own areas | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
they're obviously a little bit freer and easier, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
thinking that maybe they are on their own. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
They were engaged in a very dangerous activity. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
But they knew what they were doing, they knew how dangerous it was, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
they knew how important it was. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
And they experienced when they did it how difficult it was. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
Among the crew were Russian linguists and electronic intelligence experts. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
We were going to do business with the Soviet Navy | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
so Soviet terms would be used, Russian names would be used. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
Swiftsure would be operating near the Arctic Circle. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
With just an hour of daylight in every 24-hour period, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
special red lighting had to be used. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
When it's dark up there, which it is for a lot of the time, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
light inside, at the bottom of the periscope, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
has got to be the same or less than the light at the top of the periscope. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
It was red lighting for the best part of, probably going to be about two months. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:45 | |
It became very, very tiring. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
When Swiftsure entered the Barents Sea | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
the crew found themselves in the middle of a major naval exercise. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
I was surprised at how incredibly busy we really were. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Your level of activity is absolutely constant, reporting, noise. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:25 | |
I saw missiles streaking through the air. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
I saw firings by guns. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
I saw a torpedo firing exercise. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
Never ever in my wildest dreams thought I would do that. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Well, you're sitting there at the centre of the spider's web. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
It's a lovely feeling of being surrounded by people who can't see you but you can see them. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
Then, Swiftsure's sonar detected something new. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
The Kiev. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
I remember the excitement first time I saw her. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
The captain and the XO had lots sightings before I did | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
and I remember thinking, come on, I want to have a look at this. I really want to see her. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
And when I did she was impressive. Beautiful-looking ship. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
She was big, clean lines, just looked the part. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Soon after that Captain John said, "Right, let's go and have a look at this." | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
We started our approach from behind the carrier, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
and obviously we had to go in at a slightly higher speed than his. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:53 | |
We were constantly assessing his course and speed as accurately as we possibly can. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
Coming up from astern you can identify the wash from the propellers. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:09 | |
Once we see that we know we are very close. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Course 130. Speed 50 knots. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
We needed to match his speed almost exactly. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Going up one revolution at a time. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
And you give yourself enough time to get down, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
steady on the depth that you want to do this operation at | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
and then slide in underneath. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
It was quite a relief to find that we were sliding under him. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Gently and without incident, so to speak. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Swiftsure's cameras and acoustic devices began gathering the Kiev's secrets. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:52 | |
CAMERA CLICKS | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
Always tense, always total concentration. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
How close were you to the Kiev? | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
Top of the periscope be about 10 to 12 feet. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
We're running 12 feet away from a 40,000 ton aircraft carrier. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
Well, so be it. That's what we're doing. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
If that makes you nervous to think about it, yes, fine. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
But if you're there, you're sharp, you're on the ball. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
You're not day dreaming while you are doing this, that's for sure. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
But we are in a little ship. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
You say it but we are in a submarine that could actually sink him in three minutes. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
He would have difficulty sinking us. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
That's the sort of arrogant bit of knowledge to tuck away. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:06 | |
We know he's there and we're controlling this whole evolution. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
And he doesn't know we're there. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
CAMERA CLICKS | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
After we had been underneath for quite a long time | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
we felt we'd seen everything that we could usefully see. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
We pulled out gently and went off to a decent distance. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
After 70 days at sea, Swiftsure returned to Britain. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
Contained in her sonar bays was the Kiev's entire acoustic fingerprint. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:54 | |
If the carrier ever planned to attack, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
the West would be able to find and sink her | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
before she was in range of Britain or Western Europe. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
It was sharp end, cutting edge of the services. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
It was the front line of the Cold War operations. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
And it was a very exciting thing to be part of. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
Over two decades, British and American hunter killers | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
brought back vital intelligence about the Soviet fleet. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
This gave the West a priceless strategic advantage over the Soviet Union. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:37 | |
Well, this was given to me as a parting present by my ship's company | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
and it says HMS Swiftsure on it. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
But this actually is a model made by my ship's company | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
who, over a glass with them, this was presented to me. | 0:54:54 | 0:55:00 | |
I was absolutely delighted. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
It's based on the Kiev, the carrier. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
-Did you talk to your wife about it when you came home? -No. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
I wasn't allowed to do that, no. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
So what did you tell your wife? | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
I said, well, we had a story that we had just been on a training patrol. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:25 | |
That's what all the ship's company were told. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
My wife knew that these were difficult patrols | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
and she was used to seeing me come back having lost weight and grown a beard and tense. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:41 | |
No doubt about that. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:42 | |
My wife was absolutely incredible looking after my children. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:50 | |
Very, very rarely there. | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
Through the Swiftsure days through... Tough. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:06 | |
The whole part of that world | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
that you've put to one side for almost two months you pick it up again. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
You hadn't seen the colour green for a long time. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Grass. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
All the delights, you know. The smell of a woman. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
And I don't mean that salaciously, I just mean smelling a woman. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
And touch. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:37 | |
No one touches you in a submarine and that's something that I found I noticed. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:43 | |
-How did it feel? -Ah, it was lovely, lovely. What you haven't had you miss. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
# It's all over | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
# Didn't even cry | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
# I just stopped living | 0:57:07 | 0:57:14 | |
# When you said goodbye | 0:57:17 | 0:57:23 | |
# It's all over | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
# Didn't feel a thing | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
# I just stopped living... | 0:57:39 | 0:57:46 | |
In the next programme, the Russians fight back. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
Secret weapons beneath the ice and a disaster at sea. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:57 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 |