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The torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans,

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born in this century,

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tempered by war,

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disciplined by

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a hard and bitter peace.

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At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy

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was the youngest man ever elected President of the United States.

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He had promised bold new leadership, and to his supporters,

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his inauguration seemed to signal a new day.

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To those new states whom we welcome to the ranks of the free,

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we pledge our word

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that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away

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merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny.

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We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view,

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but we shall always hope to find them

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strongly supporting their own freedom.

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And to remember that, in the past,

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those who foolishly sought power

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by riding the back of the tiger,

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ended up inside.

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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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The new president gathered around him

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an extraordinary set of advisers,

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who shared his determination to confront communism.

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Including Secretary of Defence, Robert McNamara.

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Like the president who picked them,

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all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II.

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Each had absorbed what they all believed was its central lesson,

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ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks

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before they constituted a serious danger to the peace of the world.

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Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, the National Liberation Front,

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labelled by its enemies the Viet Cong,

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was determined to overthrow the

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anti-Communist and increasingly autocratic government

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of Ngo Dinh Diem.

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In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, Ho Chi Minh,

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the father of Vietnamese independence,

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was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, Le Duan,

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who was even more impatient to reunify his country.

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None of us knew anything about Vietnam.

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Vietnam, in those days, was a piece on a chessboard.

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A strategic chessboard.

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Not a place with a culture and a history

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that we would have an impossible time changing.

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Even with the mighty force of the United States.

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Over the next three years,

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the United States would struggle to understand

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the complicated country it had come to save,

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fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve,

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and misread how the South Vietnamese people

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really felt about their government.

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The new president would find himself caught

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between the momentum of war and the desire for peace.

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Between humility and hubris.

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Between idealism and expediency.

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Between the truth and a lie.

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For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric,

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for all the talent he gathered around him,

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the first months of his presidency did not go well.

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He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs

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that ended in disaster.

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He felt he'd been bullied by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev

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at a summit meeting in Vienna.

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He was unable to keep the Soviets from building the Berlin Wall.

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And in Southeast Asia,

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he refused to intervene against a Communist insurrection in Laos.

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Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive,

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inadequate to the task of combating

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what seemed to be a mounting Communist threat.

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"There are just so many concessions that we can make in one year,

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"and survive politically," he confided to an aide

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in the spring of 1961.

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In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act.

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After the president received reports

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that the Viet Cong might be in control

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of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta,

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he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow to Vietnam.

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They urged him to commit American ground troops.

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Kennedy refused.

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"It would be like taking a first drink," he said,

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"The effect would soon wear off, and there would be demands for another,

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"and another, and another."

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Instead, in the midst of a Cold War,

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with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation,

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the president sported a new,

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flexible way to confront and contain communism.

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Limited war.

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This is another type of warfare.

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New in its intensity,

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ancient in its origin -

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war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins.

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War by ambush instead of by combat,

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by infiltration instead of aggression.

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To fight his limited wars,

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Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets,

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Special Forces trained in guerrilla warfare -

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counterinsurgency.

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But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone

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would never be enough,

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so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army,

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dispatched helicopters and APCs -

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armoured personnel carriers.

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Kennedy also authorised the use of napalm,

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and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong,

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and destroy the crops that fed them.

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A whole array of chemicals was used,

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including one named for the colour of the stripes

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on the 55 gallon drums in which it came, Agent Orange.

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And the president quietly continued to increase

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the number of American military advisers.

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Within two years,

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the number he had inherited

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would grow to 11,300,

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empowered not only to teach

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the Army of the Republic of Vietnam - the ARVN -

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to fight a conventional war, but to accompany them into battle,

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a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam back in 1954.

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The administration did its best to hide from the American people

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the scale of the build-up that was taking place

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on the other side of the world,

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fearful that the public would not support

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the more active role advisers had begun to play in combat.

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Mr President, the Republican National Committee publication has said that you are...

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have been, less than candid with the American people as to how deeply we

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are involved in Vietnam.

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Could you throw any more light on that?

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We have increased our assistance to the government, its logistics.

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We have not sent combat troops there,

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though the training missions that we have there have been instructed

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if they are fired upon, they are too, of course, fire back

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to protect themselves, but we have not sent combat troops

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in the generally understood sense of the word.

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So, I feel that we are...

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..being as frank as we can be.

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What I have said to you is a description of our activity there.

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I was a child of the Cold War.

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When I got off the plane in Saigon

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on a humid evening in April 1962,

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I really believed in all the

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ideology of the Cold War.

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That if we lost South Vietnam,

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the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the Communists.

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There was an international Communist conspiracy.

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We believed fervently in this stuff.

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Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter

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for United Press International, UPI.

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He had served three years in the Army

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in Korea and Japan before deciding to become a newspaperman.

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Vietnam was his first, full-time overseas assignment,

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and his only worry, he remembered,

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was that he would get there too late

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and miss out on the big story.

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Sheehan and other reporters rode along

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as the ARVN mounted a series of helicopter assaults

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on enemy strongholds in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere,

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and brought terror to the Viet Cong.

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American pilots were at the controls.

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It was a crusade, and it was thrilling.

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And you'd climb aboard the helicopters

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with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle,

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and you believed in what was happening.

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I mean, you had the sense that we're fighting here, and someday,

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we'll win, and this country will be a better country for our coming.

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The new M113 armoured personnel carriers

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were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies,

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and right through the earth and dykes

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that separated one field from the next.

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The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them.

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We have some people running along the dykes.

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Actually, the canal is perpendicular to the one you're attacking now.

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They have on black uniforms,

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and I estimate approximately 30.

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That's what was causing us to win, you see.

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We were winning one after the other.

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And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance.

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As the ARVN and their advisers pursued the Viet Cong,

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the government of Ngo Dinh Diem

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had launched an ambitious programme

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meant to gain control of the countryside

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by concentrating the rural population

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into thousands of fortified settlements.

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Ringed with barbed wire and moats, and bamboo spikes

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meant to keep out the Viet Cong.

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They were called strategic hamlets.

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Part of the effort to win the hearts and minds,

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and loyalty of the Vietnamese people.

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The French had tried something like it a decade before.

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They had called it pacification.

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President Diem's Strategic Hamlet Program

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is making substantial progress.

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About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets

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have been fortified to date.

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By the summer of 1962, news from South Vietnam seemed so promising

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that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara

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made sure the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan

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for a gradual withdrawal of American advisers, to be completed by 1965.

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So far as most Americans knew,

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the United States was achieving its goal.

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A stable, independent, anti-Communist state

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in South Vietnam.

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"It was a struggle this country cannot shirk,"

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The New York Times said,

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"And the United States seem to be winning it."

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But that same summer,

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Ho Chi Minh travelled to Beijing

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in search of more help from the Chinese.

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The American build-up in South Vietnam had alarmed him

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and the other leaders in Hanoi.

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Ho told the Chinese that American attacks on North Vietnam itself

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now seemed only a matter of time.

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The Chinese promised to equip and arm

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tens of thousands of Vietnamese soldiers.

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Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi

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had directed that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man

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be required to serve in the Armed Forces.

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People used to joke in Vietnam about winning the hearts and minds,

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and you hear that expression,

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but that should not be a joke.

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It's a serious, serious problem.

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If you pull off a military operation,

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and it may be successful on a military basis,

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but you destroy a village,

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then you've created a village of resistance.

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The important thing was not to alienate the population.

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If you got sniper fire from the hamlet,

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you send in riflemen to take out the sniper.

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You didn't shell the place

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because you were going to kill women and kids, and destroy houses,

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and you were going to turn the population against you.

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Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat,

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in the tradition of previous wars.

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But a handful of young reporters were beginning to see that from the

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Vietnamese countryside,

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things looked very different than they did from the press offices in

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Washington or Saigon.

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So it was terribly important that we not only win the war,

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but that we as reporters report the truth

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that would help to win the war.

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We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth

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because it was very important to the welfare of our country,

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and to the welfare of the world.

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Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions

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about what constituted progress,

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what victory would look like, and if the people in the countryside,

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where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived,

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could ever trust the Government in Saigon.

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I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits,

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out to one of these hamlets.

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The Vietnamese general command of the area

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was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was,

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and some of these farmers were down,

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digging a ditch around the hamlet.

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I looked at their faces, and they were really angry.

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I mean, it was very obvious to me

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that if these people could, they'd cut our throats.

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Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes

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and move to strategic hamlets.

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Corrupt officials siphoned off funds,

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and villagers blamed the Diem regime

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for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks.

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As the people's anger grew,

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so did the ranks of the Viet Cong.

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It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men

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right out of those so-called strategic hamlets.

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And then the whole programme fell apart.

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Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Da Nang.

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His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools,

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but he joined the revolution,

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and as a political officer, wrote poems,

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songs and slogans to inspire the people in the countryside

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to support the Viet Cong.

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The Viet Cong cavalry would come in and talk to them,

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and their message is usually, "Bien dau buon cua minh thanh hanh dong,"

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which means, "Turn your grief into action.

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"Do something about it.

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"Join us.

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"We'll fight together. We'll liberate the country

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"from this corrupt, unjust government.

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"We'll throw out the foreigners.

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"We'll reunify the country,

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"and we'll bring in this great regime that will take care of you,

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"and bring economic and social justice."

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Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up some kind of a chart

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to determine whether we were winning or not.

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And he was putting things in,

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like numbers of weapons recovered,

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numbers of Viet Cong killed...

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Very statistical.

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And he asked head of Special Operations, Edward Lansdale,

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to come down and look at this.

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And so Lansdale did, and he said,

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"There's something missing.

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"The feelings of the Vietnamese people."

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You couldn't reduce this to a statistic.

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Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military cost-effective.

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He demanded that everything be quantified.

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In Saigon, General Paul D Harkins,

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head of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam, known as MACV,

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dutifully complied.

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He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly,

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monthly and quarterly data,

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on more than 100 separate indicators.

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Far more data than could ever be adequately analysed.

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Punctuated by bouts of violence,

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as government forces come to grips with the black clad Communist

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rebel forces called the Viet Cong.

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The country's 12 million peasants

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can scarcely remember what peace was like.

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On our side, we were not as committed, and we were, um...

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Our leaders were corrupt and incompetent.

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And so, deep down, we always had this fear,

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this suspicion that,

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in the end, it would be the Communists that would win.

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When John Kennedy assembled what he thinks is

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the best and the brightest,

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20 years before that,

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in a cave in the northern part of Vietnam,

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Ho Chi Minh also put together his best and brightest.

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And these guys are at it for a while.

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And when we show up, they were far along to consolidating their victory

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over this inevitable conflict

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between Ho Chi Minh and John F Kennedy's vision.

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The more you think about the American strategy...

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..the more you...

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..know that it was never going to work out particularly well.

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I was at my top of my game when I was in combat.

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You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear,

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because other people's lives depend upon you keeping your head cold.

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You know, when something goes wrong,

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they call it emotional numbing,

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it's not very good in civilian life,

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but it's pretty useful in combat.

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HEAVY BREATHING

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To be able to get absolutely very cold about what needs to be done.

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And to stick with it.

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To me, it's a little bit distressing to realise that I was at my best,

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doing something as terrible as war.

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President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia

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on saving South Vietnam from communism.

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As the army makes the sweep towards

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a village suspected of harbouring Viet Cong,

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it can't tell whether it will meet resistance.

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The troops round up all the young men they can find,

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since they can't tell who is a Communist just by looking.

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Those who try to run for it are shot

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on the assumption they've something to hide.

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Back home, Americans were paying little attention

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to what was happening in Vietnam.

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They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies and Gunsmoke on TV.

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They were interested in whether

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the Yankees would win the World Series again,

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and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe.

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But some Americans had been growing impatient

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with the slow pace of social change.

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We were told in the '50s

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that we lived in the best country in the world.

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In the middle of, you know,

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trying to figure out what it meant to be

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a citizen of this best country in the world,

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suddenly, the civil rights movement exploded

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into our consciousness.

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We didn't think we had any power.

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We didn't think we could be actors in history.

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That we could affect things.

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And suddenly, you know,

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these young, black students in the south were doing exactly that.

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And it just blew the tops of our heads off.

0:26:490:26:52

MUSIC: Stand By Me By Ben E King

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Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was.

0:27:250:27:30

South Vietnam in the competition against the North,

0:27:310:27:35

that should have been

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the golden opportunity to have that society open

0:27:390:27:44

with the free press, and free expression.

0:27:440:27:46

But there was not much choice

0:27:480:27:50

if the two systems are structurally dictator and oppressive systems,

0:27:500:27:57

one under the Communist Party, one under a family.

0:27:570:28:01

Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu,

0:28:200:28:22

ran a personal political party that mirrored

0:28:220:28:25

the techniques and the ruthlessness of the Communists

0:28:250:28:29

and supervised a host of internal security units

0:28:290:28:33

that spied on, and seized,

0:28:330:28:35

enemies of the regime.

0:28:350:28:36

Some reporters who probed too deeply into what Diem and Nhu were doing

0:28:380:28:43

were ordered out of the country.

0:28:430:28:45

When an American journalist objected,

0:28:470:28:49

Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him,

0:28:490:28:52

"Vietnam had no use for your crazy freedoms."

0:28:520:28:56

What we should have done is either forced the Vietnamese,

0:28:570:29:01

I mean, really forced them to clean up their act,

0:29:010:29:05

and if they wouldn't clean up their act,

0:29:050:29:07

to say, "We're out of here."

0:29:070:29:09

Because we don't bet on losing horses.

0:29:100:29:13

This is a losing horse.

0:29:130:29:15

You are not going to win this insurgency.

0:29:150:29:18

We, as Americans,

0:29:180:29:19

should have understood the desire of the Vietnamese people

0:29:190:29:22

to have their own country.

0:29:220:29:23

I mean... We did the same thing to the Brits.

0:29:250:29:28

In a few days after Christmas 1962,

0:29:300:29:34

the seventh ARVN division got orders

0:29:340:29:37

to capture a Viet Cong radio transmitter

0:29:370:29:40

broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles south-west of Saigon,

0:29:400:29:44

in a village called Tan Thoi.

0:29:440:29:47

The village was surrounded by rice paddies,

0:29:470:29:50

an irrigation dyke linked it to a neighbouring hamlet, Ap Bac.

0:29:500:29:55

At 6:35 in the morning, on January second, 1963,

0:29:570:30:02

ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company

0:30:020:30:06

to a spot just north of Tan Thoi.

0:30:060:30:09

They met no resistance.

0:30:120:30:14

Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese civil guard battalions

0:30:150:30:19

approached Ap Bac from the South on foot.

0:30:190:30:22

Facing them was Le Quan Cong,

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who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12.

0:30:270:30:32

The Viet Cong Commander let the civil guards get within 100 feet,

0:30:470:30:51

before giving the order to fire.

0:30:510:30:53

Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed.

0:30:560:30:59

Survivors hid behind a dyke.

0:31:030:31:05

Ten more helicopters filled with troops,

0:31:090:31:12

and escorted by five helicopter gunships, roared in to help.

0:31:120:31:16

Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft.

0:31:430:31:48

Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen.

0:31:480:31:52

The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN

0:32:020:32:05

struggling to get out of the downed helicopters.

0:32:050:32:08

It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong,

0:32:080:32:11

and American crewmen remember.

0:32:110:32:13

Captain James Scanlon was an adviser to the seventh division of the ARVN.

0:32:140:32:20

It would take him an hour to convince his ARVN counterpart

0:32:200:32:23

to mount a rescue using a unit of APCs.

0:32:230:32:28

Another two hours were lost before the APCs

0:32:280:32:31

could make their way through the paddies towards the trapped men.

0:32:310:32:34

By that time, the firing had died down.

0:32:360:32:38

Everything was quiet.

0:32:400:32:41

You could see the open expanse of rice fields,

0:32:410:32:44

and my reaction was, "Hey, it was all over."

0:32:440:32:48

The first two APCs drop their ramps.

0:32:480:32:51

Infantry squad stepped out,

0:32:510:32:53

prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire as they advanced.

0:32:530:32:58

In the past, that had been enough to make the Viet Cong scurry away.

0:32:580:33:03

This time was different.

0:33:040:33:06

Eight of the APCs came under attack.

0:33:090:33:12

Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed,

0:33:120:33:15

shot through the head.

0:33:150:33:17

And, boy, we got wrecked.

0:33:180:33:21

So it was like a pool table, we were on the green

0:33:210:33:24

and they were in the pocket, shooting at us.

0:33:240:33:26

That night, the Viet Cong melted away.

0:33:290:33:32

In the end, at least 80

0:33:340:33:35

South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed.

0:33:350:33:39

So had three American advisers, including captain Ken Good.

0:33:390:33:44

We stacked the bomber personnel carriers with bodies,

0:33:480:33:52

stacked them up on top until we couldn't stack any more.

0:33:520:33:56

And I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans.

0:33:560:34:00

So I carried the Americans out

0:34:020:34:05

and, um, and I was exhausted.

0:34:050:34:10

They told me about Ken Good getting killed.

0:34:100:34:14

And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions,

0:34:160:34:19

and to hear that he got killed hurt.

0:34:190:34:23

Great guy.

0:34:260:34:27

Back in Saigon, General Harkins immediately declared victory.

0:34:300:34:35

"The ARVN forces had an objective," he said.

0:34:350:34:38

"We took that objective, the VC left,

0:34:380:34:41

"and their casualties were greater than those of the government forces.

0:34:410:34:46

"What more do you want?"

0:34:460:34:48

Ap Bac was terribly important.

0:34:500:34:52

They shot down five helicopters

0:34:520:34:54

which they previously were terrified of.

0:34:540:34:56

They'd stopped the armoured personnel carriers.

0:34:580:35:00

They demonstrated to their own people

0:35:010:35:03

that you could resist the Americans and win.

0:35:030:35:06

In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen by

0:35:260:35:29

party First Secretary Le Duan

0:35:290:35:31

and his Politburo allies,

0:35:310:35:34

as evidence of the inherent weakness of the South Vietnamese regime.

0:35:340:35:38

"We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam,"

0:35:400:35:43

President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring.

0:35:430:35:48

"These people hate us.

0:35:480:35:50

"But I can't give up a piece of territory

0:35:500:35:53

"like that to the Communists

0:35:530:35:55

"and then get the people to re-elect me".

0:35:550:35:57

Buddhist monks and nuns are joined by thousands of sympathisers

0:36:050:36:08

to protest the government's restrictions

0:36:080:36:11

on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam.

0:36:110:36:14

Diem began by alienating the rural population,

0:36:140:36:18

and that started the Viet Cong.

0:36:180:36:20

Now he was alienating the urban population.

0:36:200:36:23

In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac,

0:36:240:36:27

South Vietnam plunged into civil strife

0:36:270:36:31

that had little to do with the Viet Cong.

0:36:310:36:33

Religion and nationalism where at its heart.

0:36:350:36:37

The Catholic minority had for years

0:36:390:36:41

dominated the government of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country.

0:36:410:36:45

That spring, in the city of Hue,

0:36:470:36:50

Christian flags had been flown to celebrate

0:36:500:36:53

the 25th anniversary of the ordination of Diem's older brother

0:36:530:36:57

as a Catholic bishop.

0:36:570:36:59

But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags

0:37:020:37:07

to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha,

0:37:070:37:11

police tore them down.

0:37:110:37:13

Protesters took to the streets.

0:37:140:37:16

The Catholic Deputy Province Chief

0:37:190:37:21

sent security forces to suppress the demonstration.

0:37:210:37:24

The soldiers opened fire.

0:37:250:37:27

Eight protesters died.

0:37:280:37:30

The youngest was 12.

0:37:310:37:34

The oldest was 20.

0:37:340:37:36

My mother was convinced that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith.

0:37:380:37:43

She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches,

0:37:440:37:49

and she was just extremely upset.

0:37:490:37:52

She was not alone, there was a lot of people like her.

0:37:530:37:56

American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu

0:37:580:38:02

to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists

0:38:020:38:05

for the sake of maintaining unity

0:38:050:38:08

in the struggle against communism.

0:38:080:38:10

They refused.

0:38:100:38:13

On June 10th, 1963,

0:38:140:38:17

Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press

0:38:170:38:19

received an anonymous tip -

0:38:190:38:22

something important was going to happen the next day

0:38:220:38:26

at a major intersection in Saigon.

0:38:260:38:28

He took his camera.

0:38:290:38:31

To protest the Diem regime's repression,

0:38:390:38:43

a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire.

0:38:430:38:47

As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death,

0:39:060:39:11

another monk repeated, over and over again

0:39:110:39:15

in English and Vietnamese,

0:39:150:39:18

"A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr.

0:39:180:39:21

"A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr."

0:39:210:39:23

I remember they held the ashes of

0:39:300:39:33

the monk who burned himself to death,

0:39:330:39:36

or it was kept in one of the main pagodas.

0:39:360:39:38

And lines of people came to pass by it.

0:39:390:39:43

And I saw these women, not rich women,

0:39:430:39:45

ordinary Vietnamese women,

0:39:450:39:48

take off the one piece of gold they had on them, their wedding ring,

0:39:480:39:51

and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle.

0:39:510:39:55

And I thought to myself, "This regime is over.

0:39:570:40:00

"It's the end."

0:40:000:40:01

Soon, other monks would become martyrs.

0:40:050:40:08

Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse.

0:40:110:40:16

Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said,

0:40:170:40:20

if more monks wanted to burn themselves,

0:40:200:40:23

she would provide the matches.

0:40:230:40:25

The only thing they have done, they have barbecued

0:40:260:40:31

one of their monks

0:40:310:40:34

whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence.

0:40:340:40:40

Even that barbecuing was done not even with self-sufficient means

0:40:400:40:46

because they use imported gasoline.

0:40:460:40:50

They felt she was arrogant, she was power hungry,

0:40:510:40:55

they suspected her and her husband of being corrupt.

0:40:550:40:59

Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people.

0:40:590:41:04

People feared the Diem regime,

0:41:060:41:08

perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it.

0:41:080:41:12

Students, including many Catholics,

0:41:140:41:17

rallied to the Buddhist cause.

0:41:170:41:20

So did some army officers.

0:41:200:41:21

People among the military had to ask the question,

0:41:230:41:27

"Can we continue with this kind of situation like that

0:41:270:41:30

"when the whole country was almost burning

0:41:300:41:33

"with the protests from the Buddhists?"

0:41:330:41:37

I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk.

0:41:400:41:44

We had watched the

0:41:470:41:49

civil rights movement in the south,

0:41:490:41:52

and it had set the standard for us,

0:41:520:41:56

to stand up against injustice.

0:41:560:41:58

To allow yourself to be beaten up,

0:41:590:42:02

to allow yourself to be attacked by a dog, or hit by a police truncheon.

0:42:020:42:05

And we had enormous respect for people

0:42:050:42:09

who were willing to go that far.

0:42:090:42:11

And then, one day in 1963, we saw on television

0:42:160:42:21

a picture of a monk in Saigon.

0:42:210:42:24

This was an extraordinary act.

0:42:240:42:26

Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself on the streets of Saigon?

0:42:290:42:34

The protests continued.

0:42:380:42:40

Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened.

0:42:400:42:44

The more the Kennedy administration demanded change,

0:42:450:42:49

the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist.

0:42:490:42:52

Martial law was imposed.

0:43:010:43:04

Public meetings were forbidden.

0:43:040:43:06

Troops were authorised to shoot anyone

0:43:060:43:09

found on the streets after nine o'clock.

0:43:090:43:13

When college students protested in support of the monks,

0:43:130:43:17

Diem closed Vietnam's universities.

0:43:170:43:19

High school students then poured into the streets.

0:43:200:43:24

He shut down all the high schools,

0:43:240:43:26

and the grammar schools too.

0:43:260:43:28

And arrested thousands of schoolchildren,

0:43:280:43:31

including the sons and daughters of officials in his own government.

0:43:310:43:35

Henry Cabot Lodge took over as US Ambassador

0:43:360:43:39

in the midst of the turmoil,

0:43:390:43:40

and he is reported to have demanded that President Diem's brother, Nhu,

0:43:400:43:43

be ousted, or US aid to Vietnam will be cut.

0:43:430:43:46

A small group of South Vietnamese generals

0:43:500:43:53

contacted the CIA in Saigon.

0:43:530:43:55

Diem's brother, Nhu,

0:43:560:43:57

was now largely in control of the government, they said.

0:43:570:44:02

What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup?

0:44:020:44:05

President Kennedy and his senior advisers happened to be out of town.

0:44:070:44:12

So Roger Hilsman Jnr,

0:44:120:44:14

Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs,

0:44:140:44:18

and a critic of the Diem regime,

0:44:180:44:20

took it upon himself to draft a cable

0:44:200:44:23

with new instructions for Ambassador Lodge.

0:44:230:44:26

The US Government could no longer tolerate a situation

0:44:280:44:32

in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said.

0:44:320:44:35

Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother.

0:44:350:44:39

If he refused,

0:44:400:44:42

Lodge was to tell the generals,

0:44:420:44:44

"Then we must face the possibility that Diem himself

0:44:440:44:47

"cannot be preserved."

0:44:470:44:49

The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.

0:44:510:44:55

Under Secretary of State George Ball

0:44:550:44:58

read part of the cable to him over the phone.

0:44:580:45:01

Since the early 1950s, the United States Government had encouraged,

0:45:020:45:07

and even orchestrated, other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala,

0:45:070:45:13

The Congo and elsewhere.

0:45:130:45:14

Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable.

0:45:170:45:21

In part, because he thought his top advisers had already endorsed it.

0:45:210:45:27

They had not.

0:45:270:45:28

And, somehow, because of a cable

0:45:300:45:33

that came out from Washington, Lodge decided,

0:45:330:45:36

that the only solution was to get rid of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu,

0:45:360:45:40

the bad brother, but also of Diem himself,

0:45:400:45:44

and that started us on this whole business of promoting a coup.

0:45:440:45:49

And it was not a good idea.

0:45:490:45:51

I just had a feeling of impending disaster.

0:45:530:45:55

On September 2nd, 1963, Labor Day,

0:45:570:46:00

Walter Cronkite of CBS News

0:46:000:46:03

interviewed President Kennedy.

0:46:030:46:06

The president used the opportunity

0:46:060:46:08

to deliver a message to President Diem.

0:46:080:46:12

President, hasn't every indication from Saigon been

0:46:120:46:15

that President Diem has no intention of changing his pattern?

0:46:150:46:19

If he doesn't change it, of course, that's his decision.

0:46:190:46:22

He's been there ten years. As I say, he has carried this burden when

0:46:220:46:25

he's been counted on a number of occasions.

0:46:250:46:27

Our best judgement is that can't be successful on this basis.

0:46:270:46:30

But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw.

0:46:300:46:33

That would be a great mistake. That would be a great mistake.

0:46:330:46:35

I know people don't like

0:46:350:46:36

Americans to be engaged in this kind of an effort,

0:46:360:46:39

47 Americans have been killed.

0:46:390:46:41

We are in a very desperate struggle against the Communist system

0:46:420:46:46

and I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese.

0:46:460:46:49

Do you think this government still has time to

0:46:490:46:53

regain the support of the people?

0:46:530:46:54

Yes, I do. With changes in policy, and perhaps in personnel,

0:46:540:47:00

I think it can. If it doesn't

0:47:000:47:03

make those changes,

0:47:030:47:05

I would think the chances of winning it would not be very good.

0:47:050:47:08

Despite the cable,

0:47:100:47:11

Kennedy and his advisers were sharply divided about a coup.

0:47:110:47:15

Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson,

0:47:160:47:21

and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it.

0:47:210:47:26

Because, while none of them especially admired Diem,

0:47:260:47:29

they did not believe there was any viable alternative.

0:47:290:47:33

In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge

0:47:350:47:38

to tell the renegade generals that

0:47:380:47:41

while the United States does not wish to stimulate a coup,

0:47:410:47:45

it would not thwart one either.

0:47:450:47:46

The generals laid their plans.

0:47:480:47:50

On November 1st, 1963,

0:47:580:48:01

troops loyal to the plotters

0:48:010:48:03

seized key installations in Saigon

0:48:030:48:06

and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender.

0:48:060:48:09

The battle for the city went on for 18 hours,

0:48:120:48:14

and most of it was centred on the presidential palace.

0:48:140:48:18

Just after 6.30 in the morning, Saturday, the shootings ceased.

0:48:180:48:21

Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church,

0:48:300:48:35

and agreed to surrender to the rebels

0:48:350:48:38

in exchange for the promise of safe passage out of the country.

0:48:380:48:42

They were picked up in an armoured personnel carrier.

0:48:420:48:46

GUNSHOT

0:48:460:48:48

And murdered soon after they climbed inside.

0:48:480:48:51

GUNSHOT

0:48:510:48:53

Madame Nhu survived the coup.

0:48:570:49:00

She was on a goodwill tour in the United States.

0:49:000:49:03

Monday, November 4th, 1963.

0:49:070:49:11

Over the weekend, the coup in Saigon took place,

0:49:110:49:14

culminated three months of conversation

0:49:140:49:17

which divided the Government here and in Saigon.

0:49:170:49:21

I feel that...

0:49:230:49:26

..for it,

0:49:260:49:28

beginning with our cable of August, in which we suggested a coup.

0:49:280:49:32

..to it,

0:49:340:49:36

without a round table conference.

0:49:360:49:38

I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu.

0:49:420:49:46

The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent.

0:49:460:49:49

The question now is whether the generals can stay together

0:49:490:49:53

and build a stable government,

0:49:530:49:55

or whether public opinion in Saigon will turn on this government

0:49:550:49:58

as repressive and undemocratic, in the not-too-distant future.

0:49:580:50:02

Kennedy would not live to see the answer to the question he had asked.

0:50:080:50:13

He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later.

0:50:130:50:16

There were now 16,000 American advisers in South Vietnam.

0:50:170:50:21

Their fate, and the fate of that embattled country,

0:50:230:50:27

rested with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson.

0:50:270:50:33

We thought we were the exceptions to history, the Americans.

0:50:500:50:55

History didn't apply to us.

0:50:550:50:57

We could never fight a bad war.

0:50:570:50:59

We could never represent the wrong cause.

0:50:590:51:01

We were Americans.

0:51:010:51:03

Well, in Vietnam, it proved that we were not an exception to history.

0:51:040:51:07

MUSIC: Mean Old World By Sam Cooke

0:51:240:51:29

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