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For more than half a century, the BBC has captured the changing

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face of life in Londonderry and the North-west.

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In good times and bad times this vibrant region has given us

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some of our finest singers and writers.

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These are the archives and those were the days.

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I think it's absolutely essential to preserve

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and hold on to archive footage,

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because it's the memory of our community.

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I think the existence of an archive is hugely important.

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If we don't know where we come from,

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I think it's doubly hard to know where we're going.

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We need our memories to make sense of our lives today.

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And we need to remember, you know, the stars of the past

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and the places we grew up in.

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And I think it's wonderful that this footage exists.

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I just wish there was more of it.

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''Number 38, first time in - Undertones and Teenage Kicks.

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Blasting their way onto the nation's biggest music show

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these five energy-fuelled lads unleashed a punk classic

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on Top Of The Pops.

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# Teenage dreams so hard to beat

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# Every time she walks down the street...#

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The first we knew about our Top of the Pops appearance

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we were up the town and they called into Feargal's work.

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Fergal worked for Radio Rentals at the time.

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And he'd got the phone call from the record company

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to say that the record had charted and that we'd got Top Of The Pops.

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# I'm gonna call her on the telephone...#

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For me, the occasion of Top Of The Pops

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was overshadowed by the fact that I got pyjamas from my aunties.

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I was 19 years old,

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and they heard that I was going to London to do Top Of The Pops,

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and for whatever reason they thought I'd need pyjamas.

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But that's my memory of doing Top Of The Pops.

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There's something about it.

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I don't think you can ever put your finger on what makes great music.

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It's that riff, it's that lyric.

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Teenage Kicks... It's almost a timeless quality.

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I don't think they'd even have a clue at the time

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that what the were writing was a little bit of genius

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in this part of the world.

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And time tells us that this music,

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they'll still be playing this stuff in 100 years.

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It'll still THE Derry anthem.

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# I wanna hold her, wanna hold her tight

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# Get teenage kicks right through the night...#

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I think, Teenage Kicks is just two minutes, 26 of pure pop perfection.

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Everything about it is just magical for me.

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It's got an incredible chorus, it's got handclaps -

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it's got everything that a good pop song should have.

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Teenage Kicks... The lyrics really explain the song.

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It's not a complicated or in-depth theme to the song.

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It's just about wanting to meet a girl in the local area.

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And hoping that sometime you get the chance to meet her.

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And hopefully a chance to get a date.

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Any top ten that you get chosen by top people, Teenage Kicks is in it.

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And, of course, the great John Peel -

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it was probably his favourite song of all time.

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So if it's good enough for John Peel, it's good enough for me.

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The fact that John Peel liked the record and then

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when the record had stopped he picked up the needle

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and played it the second time, so it was played back to back,

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and we were thinking this is absolutely...

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This is the greatest thing.

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Now even to this day,

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I've never heard a record played back-to-back ever.

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Derry people to this day, absolutely adore The Undertones.

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Not just for the music they wrote, which was superb,

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but for what they represented.

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# Teenage dreams so hard to beat...#

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This is a Derry band, who put Derry on the map.

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We weren't trying to go against the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

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But it didn't prevent us from doing what we wanted to do.

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I don't think it changed anybody.

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And anyway in Derry, if you got above your station,

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they'd throw you in the river anyway.

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'Home again, and back to Derry to see Billy Kelly in action.'

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A world away from showbiz pomp, 1955 saw another local hero

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slugging it out on a very different public stage.

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But he attracted as much acclaim as his pop successors.

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And the BBC cameras were there to document Billy Spider Kelly's

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preparations for the biggest fight of his life.

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The British title.

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Billy Kelly was a huge star. Not only in Derry.

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You go anywhere...

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practically in the world, anywhere where there's boxing,

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they will know of Billy Kelly.

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I never saw Billy box,

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but you knew of Billy Kelly and you knew of his father.

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And what they had achieved in boxing.

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'The 22-year-old boxer is himself the son of a famous father,

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John Spider Kelly who won the British and Empire Featherweight titles 16 years ago.

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When I was growing up, the Kellys were sort of Bogside royalty.

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Because there was a dynasty there, or so there seemed to be.

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The position of being a great hero of Derry was being

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passed down from father to son.

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So it became not just an achievement in the past,

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but a living tradition, almost.

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To see where they trained, it was so primitive.

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This little room or gym, produced a British and Empire champion.

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His timing was perfect, his movement was perfect, he bobbed

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and weaved like no other fighter that any of us had ever seen.

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He wasn't a knockout specialist,

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but he was a specialist at avoiding knockouts.

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People in the Bogside fed off the glamour of Spider Kelly.

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And it was all the more wonderful that you could see him

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in the morning running through the area.

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And wonderful that you could see his father,

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the previous Spider Kelly, cycling along.

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'Turning professional, he has worked his way up under the expert eye of

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'his father, who although retired from the ring,

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'still paces his son through the streets of Derry on training runs.'

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My father had a very long career in boxing.

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But when you think back to those times,

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it overhung their professional fights.

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And I think there was a natural progression there,

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that he would follow in his father's footsteps.

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'Last October, Billy Kelly completed half of his father's double

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'when he took the Empire title from Roy Ankrah at the King's Hall.'

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I did notice one thing, that as he was going down the street,

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he seemed to have big army boots on.

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And apparently that's what he wore, so that when he went in the ring

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and put on these light boxing boots, it felt he was gliding.

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He was on air.

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And I did notice too,

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when he was running across Craigavon Bridge a wee bit of a belly.

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I would have blamed his wife Pam for that.

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Because it takes you back to his house then

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and you see her preparing steak for the champion.

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# Some people say a man is made out of mud

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# A poor man's made out of muscle and blood

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# Muscle and blood and skin and bone...#

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But the thing that amazed me most of all was,

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here you have the little baby sitting in the high stool,

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and Billy's cutting the steak

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and he puts it over to the baby's mouth...

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And even the baby's saying, "Wise up, Da."

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And he keeps on!

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And you're..."He's not going to give that to the baby, is he?"

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And he puts it up to the baby's mouth

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and the baby's sort of going...

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"Da, no teeth. Take it away."

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And Billy's, "No, you're going to be a champion some day. Like me."

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Actually, I am that baby in the high chair. Now, 58 years ago.

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That is a big steak.

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It looks as if someone pulled the horns off a cow and sat it there.

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And the reason that steak's there is

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round the corner from our house was the slaughterhouse.

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So all the men there knew that he was fighting

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for the British and Empire title,

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and so we were very well fed with high quality meat.

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He lifted people up like nothing else did at the time.

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Here's something that we could do. Look at that.

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Here's Billy Kelly on the front page of the Daily Express.

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With his fist raised above him in triumph.

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If you came from the Bogside, you didn't get many opportunities.

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To see something like that and to feel that sense of triumph

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and achievement and vindication that Billy Kelly supplied to us...

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So he was terrifically important, far beyond the sporting arena.

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But beyond the sporting arena, for young people Billy's age,

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entertainment venues in downtown Derry were in short supply.

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'In the evening there is not a great deal to do.

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'And it's only on the teenage beat scene that there is variety,

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'choice and the odd, big-name, one-night stand.'

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However the dawn of the Swinging Sixties saw more stars play Derry.

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And the unmissable Embassy Court had a new generation jiving.

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Fashion-conscious factory girls boogied with boys with big hair -

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as this rare BBC film reveals.

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The Embassy, of course, was a very smart place to go to.

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But it was for slightly older girls.

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And it was much patronised by visitors to the town,

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like the sailors and airmen from Ballykelly

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and the boats that would come in.

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People dressed to the nines to go to the Embassy!

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Factory girls particularly could come out of work,

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buy a remnant of something,

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and have a dress ready to go out to the Embassy that night.

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The floor was always crowded,

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and many Derry girls smoked while they danced,

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so there was always a lit cigarette hovering around about ear level.

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And you had to be careful, one of you would look in one direction,

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one the other, because you could be set light to from either end.

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The bands of course were terrific. They got the big names.

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And it was very much a rather classy kind of place to go.

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'Coleraine is the location of the new University of Ulster.'

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Fast forward to the '70s.

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And the seven-year-old university of Ulster at Coleraine was being

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given the once-over by a fresh-faced BBC reporter Mike McKimm.

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But would this academic newcomer pass its first test.

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It was very interesting for me that particular film,

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because I was actually at the new University of Ulster in Coleraine

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at the very time that that was being shot.

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So to be made to face some of those issues that Mike was talking about

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within that film was really interesting.

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'NUU's fundamental problem is its lack of students.

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'There is just over half the projected number

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'at the university at present. With 1,000 empty places to fill,

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'NUU has little choice in its student intake.'

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It was trying to get across this message

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that the university wasn't operating correctly.

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Vast sums of money had been spent, and it simply wasn't going to last.

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As though the university had been something of a mistake.

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'Despite a vociferous campaign by the people of Londonderry,

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the decision was taken to site the university on 300 acres

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given by the little market town of Coleraine.

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In every Derryman's heart of hearts they're thinking why did

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they put it there?

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It could have been so much better!

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So much faster...had it been located here.

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where there was already the hub of Magee College

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which could perfectly adequately have been used to start it off.

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Even all these years later,

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this simple decision not to put the new university in the heart of this cultural, historic city,

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and instead sit in a couple of fields outside Coleraine...

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It's amazing because even the guys in this footage,

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the locals are going, "We didn't want it."

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The Coleraine people were

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so underwhelmed about getting a university.

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'What's the university meant to you,

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'now it's been here six or seven years?

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'Well, it hasn't really been a benefit really in the long run.

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'I can't see that it's done any harm.

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'Originally, when we heard it was coming to Coleraine

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'we had the fear of drugs and things like that,

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'but as I say, it's done no harm.'

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'Although it's often dubbed Coleraine university,

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'the campus is actually outside the town and surrounded by fields.

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'Indeed it's often described as a nine-to-five university.'

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As students we weren't in the centre of Coleraine very much.

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We wouldn't have gone into town too much.

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We tended to stay on campus.

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Interestingly, they call it a nine-to-five university.

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I'm not sure quite why that is,

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people were maybe commuting more at that point,

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but we were there to stay.

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A dynamic combination of sporting resources,

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state-of-the-art media resources,

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and new to Northern Ireland universities, an on-site creche,

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were all part of life for students at the Coleraine campus.

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My first impression, I have to admit of the university

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when I arrived up as a fresh-faced first year,

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was that I may well have signed to join a Soviet bloc sausage factory.

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Because I mean it is a bit of a carbuncle.

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It almost looked like a Korean nuclear plant.

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Because none of the foliage had grown, none of the trees had grown around it.

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It was just these stark white buildings.

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It's an amazing university for that sense that it may not look great,

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but there was a great sense of community in Coleraine

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and a great sense of student community.

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And there were people from all over the UK and Europe

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at the university when I was there. I thought it was a fascinating place.

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It was a real melting pot for cultures.

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There were a lot of very earnest young men there and you can see those guys in the documentary.

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You can see the guys who've spent more time growing a beard

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than actually going to lectures

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I love the footage of the students lounging about and reading papers

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and drinking tea and smoking, lying out right outside the refectory, you know.

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It maybe doesn't do them any favours, because it's playing into all the cliches about lazy students,

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but that's how I remember it, as lazing about in the summer.

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And it's great to see that old footage again.

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For many, academic life contrasted sharply with dreams of the open road.

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One such free spirit was Bangor grocery Jim Beck,

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who turned his childhood dreams

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of running away with the circus into a reality.

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Named after his wife, Jim launched Circus Dellabeck.

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And the couple and their three young daughters headed north-west to entertain the crowds.

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I know that my dad's circus brought a lot of joy into people's lives

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in the '70s when there was nothing. We actually were entertainment,

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which sounds a bit strange now, but we definitely were.

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And the people who came to see the circus wanted to see it.

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And whatever town we pulled into, he was determined to make sure they enjoyed the show.

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So whether the tent was half full, Dad always got the audience to interact

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and that generated a real buzz about the place.

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So he was quite a showman as well.

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-I want to have a drink with this guy. I want to meet this guy.

-HE LAUGHS

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I mean, he turns up in the town...

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and let's be honest about Jim and his circus,

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there are no tigers in this circus, there are no leopards.

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Jim has a couple of horses. Jim has a dog that jumps up and down.

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But he arrives in a sports car at the front of the cavalcade

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and the crowds turn up.

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Isn't there something absolutely magical about what this guy did.

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I just thought the whole footage was absolutely hilarious from start to finish,

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just everything about it.

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The fact that he'd been a grocer and then decided, you know...

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I think he had quite a successful cash and carry.

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And to just throw that all away, in a way, I really admired him.

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He followed his dream, didn't he?

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You know, you think a lot of people have fantasies about things

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but he actually put it into practice.

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The stars of the show and the love of Jim's life are his Appaloosas,

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eight matched stallions and the reason for owning a circus.

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He had always had a passion for training horses,

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so he decided he had trained them so well that Northern Ireland should see them.

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So the best way for that to happen was to start up a circus.

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And... that's really how it all started.

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And then we were all taken off into this circus world,

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which was very different from our normal lives.

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MUSIC: "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer

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If life seemed like a circus for the Beck family,

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there was no clowning around for this hard-working clan.

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Behind the scenes of the Big Top,

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everyone had a role to play to keep this show on the road.

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Down the line, I saw other artists doing acts

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and I just thought, "You know, I am going to do that."

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And then I got my younger sister

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and we decided to teach ourselves to do an aerial act.

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So we both taught ourselves and the next thing we were a circus act in the Big Top.

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-SHE LAUGHS

-That's how it happened.

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I absolutely hate clowns and Bilbo the Clown was a particularly creepy clown. It was bad.

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But the nose, that was the most award-winningly evil clown nose I've ever seen in my life.

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And it was just, I'm sorry, that really freaked me out.

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-Bilbo the Clown.

-SHE SHUDDERS AND LAUGHS

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As Bilbo the Clown, Billy has been about circuses all his life.

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His wife, Betty, is a comparative newcomer but a trooper nonetheless.

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Well, there's three of us.

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Betty here and a son.

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And we started off with David throwing knives.

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I think we can learn a lot, firstly, from the guy with the knives.

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So let's look at his technique here.

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Betty, stand there for a minute, right. Wear a wee skimpy skirt

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and I'm going to get a few knives here and chuck 'em at you.

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And that was fine in Jim Becks. "You want a go at it?"

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"You want a go at the trapeze? Don't worry about safety."

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So he used his mother and he threw the knives at his mother.

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And it was so funny when Betty got hit.

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Well, as a matter of fact, I got stabbed in the arm.

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-How did it happen?

-David was firing the knives and one of them sort of missed.

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He went too close and one of them missed and I got it right in the arm.

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"He sort of stabbed me. He sort of stabbed me."

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And I'm thinking, "Betty, there's no such thing as sort of stabbed."

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And it was so funny, "The blood was running down me arm, but I would do it again."

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Well, I would do it again, all over again.

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They don't make women like Betty McCormac any more.

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You know, that good, stoical woman that just does what her husband tells her

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and lets the son throw knives at her. Those were the days(!)

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There's just something very homely about this which is probably timeless.

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And I'm sure his family cherish it.

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It brought back happy emotions. Really genuine happy emotions.

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You just think, "Wow! Did I really do that?"

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-And you just go, "Yes, I did!"

-SHE LAUGHS

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From the raw energy of the Big Top to the cutting-edge technology of TV

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the 1980s saw a new BBC programme made for and by young people,

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Channel One.

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And when the show broadcast from Derry,

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local presenter Jackie Hamilton

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gave viewers an insight into the city's youth culture...

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and questionable headgear.

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CHEERING

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Hello and welcome to our second Channel One On The Road.

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And tonight we're coming live from The Venue in Derry/Londonderry.

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MUSIC: "Into The Groove" by Madonna

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That show, Channel One On The Road, it's... just the '80s.

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Caron Keating's there. Caron's like Madonna,

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complete with the beads, everything, the hair, all Madonna-ish.

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Jackie Hamilton's shoulder pads.

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The whole thing was just, like, my teenage years.

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It was just them encapsulated in one programme.

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Just the whole scene was, you know, it was really... it was really buzzing.

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The band scene was buzzing

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and everybody was writing their own stuff. And they look so young!

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Channel One On The Road also provided a rare opportunity for new bands to get on television

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and grasp their chance to become Derry's next big thing.

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ROCK MUSIC

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In the '80s it was all about the talent, really, wasn't it?

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Just young kids getting together, putting a band together,

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ending up on television.

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One thing that struck you was that the music was good, you know,

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that those bands... They were good original tunes.

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And they could all play an instrument.

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I thought watching back it was great that the people such as John Roddy

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were trying to get a platform for something different in Derry.

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MUSIC: "Male Model" by The Undertones

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Music and fashion go hand-in-hand and local model agent John Roddy

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was determined to drag Derry's fashion scene kicking and screaming into the 1980s.

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And what better catwalk than Channel One's studio floor.

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Like, trying to start a model agency.

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That was stuff you did in London it wasn't stuff you did in Derry.

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But he was deadly serious about it

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and the people taking part at the time were deadly serious about it.

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He was trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear with some of those boys.

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Those boys were just, like, straight off a tractor.

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You know, this big gulpin in a... you know,

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in a jumper that he had squeezed into his jeans.

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And then the girl. The girl was hilarious with that whole big swagger up and down.

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And it was just hilarious.

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I mean, no sophistication about the whole thing.

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Well, to find out what has the men of Derry all rushing off to the catwalk,

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I have with me the man responsible for it all, John Ruddy.

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John, it used to be that all male models were very skinny and the arty type,

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yours are all fairly natural and well built.

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I think that's maybe the image I'm after anyway.

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It takes away from the usual run-of-the-mill sort of small and skinny.

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I prefer them tall.

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I think he's in awe of Caron Keating to begin with. SHE LAUGHS

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And John's trying to tell her about models. SHE LAUGHS

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And it's... it was just funny.

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As the glamorous '80s made way for the alternative '90s,

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Derry's live band scene was witnessing a renaissance.

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These wannabe rock stars needed a secure space to hone their performing skills.

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And captured on the BBC TV series 29 Bedford Street was the new Northwest Musicians Collective.

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All those guys in that collective were playing in their own bands,

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your Stooms, your Cuckoos, your Turtle Assassins.

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Suddenly the Collective comes along and they're going,

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we can do something bigger together.

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And then the Nerve Centre comes along and almost put a capital N and a capital C on those endeavours.

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The Nerve Centre was set up in Derry around about 1999

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and the main thrust of the Nerve Centre was to provide facilities

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for bands where they could rehearse and they could get equipment and they could record.

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Which is a very positive thing for them to do,

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because when The Undertones were starting out there was no such facility.

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We couldn't find a room in the city where people could set up a drum kit

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and then amplifiers and, you know, play in a rock band.

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And somewhere far away

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that wouldn't make too much noise and annoy anyone.

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That was the original vision of the whole place.

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MUSIC: "Jimmy Jimmy" by The Undertones

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The Undertones achieved pop success without this level of support.

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But as he explained in this BBC documentary

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the band's rhythm guitarist John O'Neill was keen to share his skills

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with this new generation of musicians.

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There are about 30 bands that actively use the building that we have,

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so we've built quite a big following among young people.

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There really has never been anything for the youth in Derry.

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John wasn't just an inspiration,

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it was the experiences he had throughout the '90s when we were developing the Nerve Centre.

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And then having him and his band open it,

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I suppose for me that's a bit like all your dreams coming true.

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This is the hottest ticket in Derry tonight

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the reunion concert by The Undertones

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to mark the official launch of the Nerve Centre here in Derry.

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And, of course, Newsnight has a sneak preview.

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I think what those guys were really doing was taking control

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and taking the power. What they were doing was saying, let's bring this back to Derry,

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let's take control of the space, of the contract, of the deal,

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of the skills and let's give that to young Derry musicians.

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As the Nerve Centre evolved, so too did its proteges.

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Animators, photographers and film directors were among its apprentices.

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Derry had discovered a new cultural heartbeat.

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Back then these guys were absolute innovators.

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It was only the networks or the broadcasters, your BBCs, your ITVs, who could do this stuff.

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Suddenly you had kids in Derry doing it for themselves

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behind the scenes in the Nerve Centre.

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It's not just the Nerve Centre and the trendy stuff

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we saw up front, the gigs, the bands, the films and the animations,

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but behind them, almost from the ground upwards was this army of young people being skilled up.

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And, what, 30 years later that Nerve Centre is still doing that.

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MUSIC: "Those Were The Days" by Max Bygraves

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From The Embassy to The Undertones

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the story of the Northwest's music, culture and young people shows us how we used to live.

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And thanks to a rich archive and the magic of film,

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we can bring those bygone days back to life.

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# Those were the days, my friend

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# We thought they'd never end

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# We'd sing and dance for ever and a day

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# We'd live the life we choose

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# We'd fight and never lose

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# For we were young and sure to have our way... #

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# ..Those were the days

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# Oh, yes, those were the days. #

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