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Italy. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Enchanting and beautiful home to historic architecture, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
art and fashion. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
But there's a dark heart to this tourist dream. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
Italy is also a society of organised crime, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
corruption and unsolved murders. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Out of this chilling reality, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
a new wave of crime fiction has emerged... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
..with its own twist on the conventions of the detective novel. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Unlike the Scandinavians, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
you follow what I would term the British and American tradition fairly closely. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Murder, puzzle, psychology. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
The Italians, their books are much more relevant to the world we live in. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
It's a no-nonsense, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
no-frills | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
crime thriller, which is absolutely in your face. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
It's a world where everyone is a suspect. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
In a society where no-one can be trusted, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Italian crime writers take an almost philosophical delight | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
in telling stories that offer no simple resolutions. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
We write more noir in Italy than traditional thriller. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
That's because we are more pessimistic than you about human nature. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
A noir world with no happy endings. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
The detective novels of Andrea Camilleri | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
are set in contemporary Sicily. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
They deal with the casebook of the worldly Inspector Montalbano of the local police force. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
I absolutely adore Inspector Montalbano. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
I think the character is, in many ways, a kind of stereotypical view | 0:03:00 | 0:03:08 | |
of an Italian and perhaps also of a Sicilian man. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
In the TV version of the books, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Montalbano's liking for long lunches becomes his trademark. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He's frequently shown at his favourite restaurant | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
where the waiters are left in no doubt about his passion for food. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
He has an incredible interest in the whole culture and identity | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
of Sicily, particularly shown through his love of food. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
Montalbano is as enthusiastic when forensically inspecting a menu | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
as he is searching for clues to a crime. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
"Bring me a generous serving of the hake. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Camilleri armed Montalbano with a dry sense of humour. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
Like all Sicilian policemen, Montalbano has to face the Mafia. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
But Camilleri handles this confrontation in a surprising way. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
The Mafia is so deeply implicated into the structure of Sicilian and Italian society, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:29 | |
that if it disappeared, a lot of it would actually crumble. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
It's the cement that glues some of the bricks together. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Until they can find a substitute, they have to be there. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
In a community where no-one can be relied on, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Camilleri's stories are a web of intrigue. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
where nothing is ever as it seems. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
In this scene from the television series, Montalbano arrives | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
to investigate an alleged kidnapping and recognises immediately | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
that there are many layers to the case. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
The television series portrays Montalbano's encounters | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
with the Mafia in a very particular way. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
It as if he's dealing not with a criminal organisation, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
but with local bureaucrats, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
a tone he maintains no matter how long the conversation. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Camilleri rejects the Hollywood version of the Mafia, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
refusing to put them centre stage in his stories. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Instead, Camilleri chooses to focus on Montalbano's commitment to the law. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
He is someone who really has a very strong sense of justice. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
He will pursue something because he wants to get to the truth. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
Montalbano's image may be laid back, but his methods are not. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Here he conducts a classic interview. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Where Montalbano is different from most other Italian coppers | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
is that he isn't judgemental. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
He takes on the chin whatever he hears. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
He might be judgemental in terms of his own feelings | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
that he doesn't necessarily need to show to people, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
but he remains this cool, rational presence... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
A bit Holmesian, if you like. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Where the intellect takes over, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
although he's a very physical man - he's concerned with food, sex... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
Those are elements of his life. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
But he's still just basically a rational intelligence that works on problems. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
It's conveyed by Camilleri that people talk to him and they trust him. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
He gets results that way - more that way then by browbeating people. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
But faced with a corrupt society, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Montalbano is rarely able actually to solve a crime... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
And this sets him apart from the traditional fictional detective. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
The lack of a resolution in the Inspector Montalbano stories | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
can trace its roots back to a novel set in Rome in 1927... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
..during Mussolini's fascist regime. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
In That Awful Mess On The Via Merulana, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Carlo Emilio Gadda employed a crime story to explore Italy's fascist era. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
He's using the tropes of crime fiction - the burglary, the murder and the ensuing investigation - | 0:12:31 | 0:12:38 | |
more as a way of examining society | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and what has caused the state of affairs, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
the fascist state in Italian society. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
That Awful Mess On The Via Merulana begins with the murder of a woman | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
in an upmarket Rome apartment. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
"The body of the poor signora was lying in an infamous position | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
"a deep, a terrible red cut opened her throat fiercely. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
"It had taken half the neck from the front towards the right, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
"that is towards her left, the right to those who were looking down." | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
But Gadda shows how pointless it is to investigate | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
a single crime when the society that surrounds it is so corrupt. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Gadda's story subtly reveals the way fascism penetrated the lives of ordinary Italians. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
It is an extremely critical view of the regime, particularly because | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
one of the things, to me, is very interesting in novel is the way | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
in which the main female character represents what Italian women | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
were facing during the fascist years. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
It's clearly a very patriarchal society. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Lilliana can't have children so she has all these fairly ambiguous, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
complex relationships with other young women, they are adopted by her. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:21 | |
The whole crime revolves around that. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
She has been murdered and we need to find out who murdered her. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Gadda was an established literary figure who delivered his anti-fascist message | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
in a distinctive style that mixed local dialects and slang to satirise Italy's dictator. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
Gadda, when he talks about Mussolini, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
he is satirical of his performances, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
his penchant for particular uniforms. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
His macho posturing. There's a series of name-calling that goes on. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
Here Gadda mocks Mussolini in a way Italian readers would have instantly recognised. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
I think he was attempting to do something which really hadn't been done before. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
Obviously, the closest parallel is Joyce. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
The time we spend in Rome is like the time we spend in Dublin with Joyce. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
It's astonishingly very panoply, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
this picture of an entire society. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
It uses, like Joyce, a variety of different styles. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
It uses a straightforward, academic style, it uses popular vernacular - | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
it just throws everything in. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
"In front of the big louse coloured building a crowd circumfused... | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
"..Protected an odd job man also in an apron, striped, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
"his nose the shape and colour of a wondrous pepper... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
"..concierges, the maids, the little daughters of the concierges." | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
What you have is a detective story, but it's almost a sort of playing | 0:16:15 | 0:16:22 | |
with the conventions of the detective story. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
You have a particular kind of inspector, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
a particular kind of investigation - | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
one that's ultimately open-ended and unresolved. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
It seems to be that this is an inquiry into the nature | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
of reality and the way in which one can know reality. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
So every type of inquiry leads to a new set of possibilities. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
So you can never really get to know and understand reality fully. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
The kind of suggestion is that what fascism is really doing is imposing | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
a series of infantile simplifications on the complexity of reality. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
By setting his detective novel in the fascist era, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Gadda became the first writer to use the crime story | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
as a way of looking at Italian history. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I've always thought that Gadda was one of the very first writers | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
that makes the link between crime fiction and Italian history very clear. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:28 | |
That will become almost like a blueprint for later writers. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
After Mussolini's fascist dictatorship ended with Italy's defeat in the Second World War, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
a writer from Sicily began gathering material | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
for crime stories which would challenge another sinister force | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
that came to dominate post-war Italy. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
Into the 1960s, Leonardo Sciascia's novels | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
would expose the power of the Sicilian Mafia. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
The Mafia had emerged as powerful players in Italian society | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
during the US occupation in the immediate post-war years. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Leonardo Sciascia's 1961 novel The Day Of The Owl told the story | 0:18:40 | 0:18:46 | |
of a police detective's battle to solve the murder of a local businessman. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
At every turn, his investigations are hampered by murky Mafia forces. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
It's a novel in which you really get a sense of how deeply embedded | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
the Mafia is in Sicilian society. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Not just simply from the point of view of the economics but from the point of view of the culture | 0:19:08 | 0:19:14 | |
and the reign of terror that, in a sense, gripped Sicily | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
has influenced the way in which Sicilians live their lives, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
the social cohesion of communities. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
The whole idea of not being able to speak freely, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
the sense of distrust that people have. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
On a personal level, the difficult relationship that people have | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
with each other all based on the fact that you cannot trust anybody. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
"Two ear-splitting shots rang out." | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
The beginning of the novel, in which someone gets shot by the Mafia | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
and no-one has seen or heard | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
anything, is really emblematic of that. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
"Nobody on the bus saw a thing. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
"It was a hell of a job to find out who was on the bus. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
"The passengers said the windows were so steamy they looked like frosted glass. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:16 | |
"Maybe true." | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
No-one has seen anything. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
You don't want to be involved, it's far too dangerous to be involved. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
You do know in Sicily, or you knew at the time, that you didn't have... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The police wouldn't come to help. The state was not there for you. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:34 | |
And that, I think, instigates a mechanism of self-preservation. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
You pretend nothing has happened. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
You don't want to know, you haven't seen, you haven't heard. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
You mind your own business. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
You lead your life in a very closed world. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
Sciascia doesn't consider himself to be a crime writer. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
He's looking at society. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:09 | |
And particularly Sciascia, as opposed to maybe Gadda or others, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
what's important for him is not just Sicily but also the landscape, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
the colours, the smells of Sicily, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
which I think come through incredibly well in his writing. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
"Dawn was infusing the countryside. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
"It seemed to rise from the tender green wheat, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
"from the rocks and dripping trees | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
"and mount imperceptibly towards a blank sky. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
The Gramole, incongruous in green uplands... | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Sicily IS different. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
You get off the boat or the plane and you feel you're in a different country in some cases. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
It's a bit like, if you understand French, if you go to Quebec. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
You almost don't understand the language. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
The Sicilians are very proud to have seceded, so to speak, from Italy, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
not only geographically but also, I think, mentally. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
It's a different atmosphere altogether, and there's a certain pride of place. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Like Gadda, Sciascia chose to reject the conventional model of detective fiction. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:23 | |
Instead, his investigator, Inspector Bellodi, is forced | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
to confront the corruption that exists in the society around him. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
In Day Of The Owl, the interesting thing is the protagonist, who goes on a journey of discovery. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:38 | |
It's an education for him. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
He has to learn the realpolitik of the way things get done and the way things don't get done. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:46 | |
And that book, more than many Italian crime books, has all-encapsulated the fact | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
that you learn who committed the crime, but there isn't necessarily closure. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
And we really want that, readers want that. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
But the great Italian crime writers don't give you that. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
They say, "OK, you know who committed the crime. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
"But this is the real word, and criminals go unpunished." | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
By the late 1960s, Sciascia began to inject political intrigue into | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
his stories as a way of talking about the rise of terrorism in Italy. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
An era that would become known as the Years of Lead. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
The Years of Lead starts from December 1969, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
when a bomb is planted in a bag in central Milan, in Piazza Fontana. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
There's a real sense, at the time, of great discontent. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
This neo-fascist bombing began a decade of terror, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
with bloody attacks launched by both right and left-wing extremists. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
Sciascia now took on Italian politics. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
In 1971, he wrote Equal Danger, a tense crime thriller | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
about the murder, one by one, of some of the country's top judges. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
"Never had prosecutors or judges been threatened, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
"or struck down for a position taken during a trial, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
"or for a verdict delivered." | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
In Equal Danger, there is a plot to blame the murders on left-wing extremists. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:36 | |
Sciascia takes on both the left and the right. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
So, he's instructed to pin the crime on the left. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
But it's not that simple. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
But you would think, "Oh, yes, OK, that means he's a writer of the left. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
"Therefore, the left will be idealised." No, they're not. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
They're shown as disinterested, they have fashionable left-wing causes which they take up. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
It's quite a nuanced view of Italian society. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Maybe typical, in many ways, of a lot of Italians who do have | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
ambiguous views about political dimensions. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
We have a period of great social unrest, political uncertainty. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
A sense in which no-one knew whether the enemy | 0:25:26 | 0:25:33 | |
came from within the state or from outside. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
Through the 1970s, Italy was torn apart by a series of violent terrorist attacks. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:55 | |
In total in that period, we have 14,000 terrorist attacks, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
374 people are killed | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
and 1,170 are wounded. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
In 1978, the kidnapping and murder of former Prime Minister Aldo Moro troubled Italians. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:23 | |
Was Moro killed by the Marxist militant group the Red Brigades | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
or by sinister forces connected to the government? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
The conspiracy theories surrounding the execution of Moro | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
prompted Leonardo Sciascia to write his own investigation. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
In The Moro Affair, Sciascia drew his reader's attention | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
to inconsistencies in the official version of events. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
It all contributed to an atmosphere of political turmoil, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
in which there were frequent miscarriages of justice. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
The victim of one famous case would write crime stories which drew on his experience of the Years of Lead. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:09 | |
In 1976, Massimo Carlotto was a student and left-wing activist | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
who was framed for a murder he didn't commit. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
After being sentenced to 15 years in prison, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Carlotto fled Italy, first for Paris and then to Central America. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
He was returned to an Italian prison after five years on the run | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
and began an extraordinary legal battle to clear his name. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
Eventually pardoned, Carlotto was released in 1993. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
This experience led him to write The Fugitive, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
which became a best-selling novel. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
"I was a classic accidental fugitive, someone who never expected to have | 0:29:09 | 0:29:15 | |
"problems with the law, who never thought he would need to | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
"invent an escape from his own country as the one way to save his own life, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
"his freedom and his dignity." | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
The Fugitive inspired a film about Carlotto's years on the run. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
This graphic scene leaves the audience in no doubt about how tough it was for him. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
He was tortured at the hands of the Mexican police after he was captured. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
Carlotto is a kind of special case because obviously he's a man | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
who knows from first hand about miscarriages of justice. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
It's amazing really, if you think about it, what he went through | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
in terms of the accusations and the time he spent on the run | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and so forth before he became a writer. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
The ending of that in Britain might have been a ghost writer coming in, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
so the celeb writes a disposable book that's thrown away | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
that tells a story, everybody reads it, and its serialised in the papers. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
He actually turned into a very good writer. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
Carlotto has gone on to write violent crime fiction set in contemporary Italy, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
drawn from his experience of being in the country's toughest prisons. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
Carlotto's rough justice shaped the raw writing style of his novels. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
He was influenced by the political tone of Leonardo Sciascia | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
but he added a new level of brutality of his own | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
to stories like The Goodbye Kiss. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
It's a no-nonsense, no-frills crime thriller | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
which is absolutely in your face and doesn't deal with subtleties, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
but Italian readers and British readers who have encountered him | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
know exactly where they are with him. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
The book's kind of like a bucket of cold water being thrown in the face. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
His books basically look at white slavery, drugs, prostitution. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
I mean, there's nothing easy or cosy about his books. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
For The Goodbye Kiss, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
Carlotto rejected the convention of an investigating detective. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
He inverted this tradition by creating an amoral, violent former terrorist as the lead character. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:35 | |
The darkly shot opening scene from the film of The Goodbye Kiss | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
sets up this figure perfectly, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
as he coldly shoots one of his own men in the back of the head. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
The Goodbye Kiss is filmed as a modern day noir. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
In this world, killings are at once realistic and stylised. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
The male characters are real, sort of, macho, strong, aggressive. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
And this is not simply because Carlotto is using a particular genre | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
in which traditionally male characters are depicted in a certain way. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:56 | |
There's something more to that. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
When you look at the way in which women are represented in the novels, they are very marginal. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
Carlotto's time spent with hardened criminals | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
shaped the hardcore misogynistic actions of his lead characters. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
I don't think Carlotto does understand women. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
He sees them basically as pawns in terrible games, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:22 | |
which is probably why there is so much violence against women. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
And these women seldom fight back. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
I think he is the kind of writer who says, "I'm sorry, this is it. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
"I'm not going to varnish things. This is the way people behave." | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
There's no sentimentality. This kind of a small amount of human feeling. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
In fact, when you read a Carlotto book, you're trying to search out that bit of human feeling | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
cos you wanted and you grab it, and you're really grateful for it. He's not dealing with that. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
Carlotto's version of realism is motivated by a desire to bring what he regards | 0:35:08 | 0:35:14 | |
as a more journalistic approach than seen in Anglo-American crime fiction. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
Carlotto's first-hand experience of Italy's violent underworld | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
has heralded a new wave of Italian writers who base their novels on real characters. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:20 | |
From the other side of the law, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
a top Roman judge has dipped into his casebook to write an explosive novel | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
set in the Italian capital about the city's notorious gangsters. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
Giancarlo De Cataldo's debut novel, Romanzo Criminale, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
was inspired by his work as an investigating judge, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
a role that took him to both crime scenes and prisons. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Being a judge helps me to go in some places where writers long for going all their lives. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:19 | |
Like houses where people have been killed. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
And so that's a chance. If you are talented as a writer, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
if you have these gifts, you must use it. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
It would be a crime not to use it. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
Cataldo's training as a judge and his activity as a judge | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
I think is important, not only because it gives him | 0:37:44 | 0:37:51 | |
visibility, it gave visibility to his books at the beginning and it attracted additional interest. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
But also because it informs his way of writing. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
De Cataldo based his story on a real criminal street gang, the Banda della Magliana. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:17 | |
I studied the phenomenon of Banda della Magliana, which was a gang organisation | 0:38:19 | 0:38:25 | |
for people coming from the suburbs of Rome that became a real criminal power | 0:38:25 | 0:38:32 | |
collecting money and imposing a kind of law, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
as if Mafia for the first time had taken place in Rome. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
I first met one of those people from the gang, he was repented, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
he was under protection of justice. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
But those judges didn't believe him. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
So he was set free and then murdered. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
The second occasion, the second chance was working in a trial against | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
some of the members of these gangs, the survivors, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
because many of them had died. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
They were real criminals, but they were old-style criminals at the same time. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:18 | |
Set over more than a decade, De Cataldo's novel | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
imagines how these gangsters may have been involved | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
in the darkest chapters of The Years of Lead, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
an era that continues to intrigue Italians. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
One of the achievements of Romanzo Criminale is to fold in | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
the real life events that he talks about in a kind of responsible way. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
I mean, it's a long tradition. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Tolstoy put Napoleon in War and Peace. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
So it's been happening for quite a long time to put real events in. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
In 2005, these real events were brought to the cinema screen, | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
when Romanzo Criminale was adapted | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
into a stylish gangster epic, dubbed the Italian Goodfellas. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:08 | |
A pivotal scene from the film deliberately mixes real life news reports of the kidnapping | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
of former Prime Minister Aldo Moro with the action, reflecting the twin focus of the book. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:23 | |
I think the novel wants to inform readers. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
I think the novel wants to convey historical facts. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
And certainly wants to convey a particular idea of historical facts as well. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
De Cataldo also explores the bloodiest event | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
from The Years of Lead, which took place at Bologna train station in August, 1980. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
In a dramatic scene from the film, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
gang member Ice finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
The fictional character being placed within this | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
environment allows us to indulge what might have taken place. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:30 | |
We see Ice arriving at the station. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
The clock says 10:23. We know at 10:25 the bomb has to go off. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
And to see him emerging from the station with the bomb going off behind him... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
..and then walking in the rubble of | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
what is an incredibly effective reconstruction of the events, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
is extremely disturbing. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
And I think that scene brings us into the heart of the Bologna bombing. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:04 | |
It puts us there among the dead. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
I mean, the shots of children are incredibly chilling. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
And it brings home to us as well that this is not | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
just a fun gangster movie, but that there is a very sinister side to it. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
The movie is far different from the book, because in the book, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
we had no real link in a comparison | 0:42:28 | 0:42:34 | |
between the gang and the Bologna massacre. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
The movie is far different. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
But what I wanted to mark was that are part of Italian history | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
was criminal history, and that there's a grey zone | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
between the normal citizen, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
the power, the legal economy, and the underworld. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
And that is why Romanzo Criminale is more than a thriller. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
A historical and political crime novel. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
The location of this bombing was significant. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Bologna, a university city, was known as Red Bologna, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
in part due its reputation as a centre of left-wing politics. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
And today, this politically radical city has inspired | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
a young female author to write a crime story | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
which confronts the rise of sexual violence against women. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
In 2010, Barbara Baraldi's novel The Girl With The Crystal Eyes | 0:44:03 | 0:44:09 | |
introduced a new character into Italian crime fiction. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
The female vigilante. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
"Her quick, small fingers pick up a rose. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
"But it's not the rose's thorns that pierce the man's flesh, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
"but a kitchen knife, sharp and shining | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
"that enters deep into his chest and then slides out again, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
"spurting hot, dark, dense drops of blood | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
"that splash the perfect features of her face." | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
I think you'd have to say a writer like Baraldi has a cinematic sensibility. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:12 | |
She deals in a kind of visual language, even though its words | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
on a page, which she knows readers will quickly relate to. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
So there is the literary equivalent of fast cutting, and cutting between scenes. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
And there's a minimum of exposition. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
There's a minimum of explanation. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Cos she thinks, my readership will be able to keep up with me, and if they don't, too bad. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
They're going to have to struggle initially, but it will be worth it in the end. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
So she's of a generation where film has informed her writing as much as anything she's read. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
Baraldi found inspiration for her horror writing style | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
from literary classics familiar to British readers. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
"She takes a last look in the gilded mirror, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
"a mirror that wouldn't be out of place in a fairy tale, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
"a fairytale that's frightening but where she's the fairest of them all, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
"beautiful just as she is, smelling of blood." | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
They're almost like dark, nasty, black fairy tales. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
And in various respects, she is quite unique. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
Barbara Baraldi has to make her mark in maybe a society that doesn't have the most enlightened views of women. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:20 | |
So there are various ways to go. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
She went in the way that is kind of a rebellious, punkish way. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
She's probably aiming at younger readership. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
And you wouldn't read one of her books if you were squeamish | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
of easily shocked, because you'd put it down very quickly. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
It's taken a long time for the women to come out and Barbara Baraldi is one. But you have other writers. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:50 | |
You've got Francesca Mazzucato, and a mad writer called Isabella Santacroce, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
who does incredible public events, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
and whose books are almost like, Lewis Carroll goes psycho. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
The women, rather than bringing a sort of softer, cosy version of it, which, for instance a lot of | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
British and American female writers do, it is a bit cosy, a bit too convenient, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:21 | |
like the traditional Miss Marple. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
Although, obviously, some, Rendell are very dark for a psychological point of view. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:29 | |
But the new Italian women writers bring a feminine touch, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
but a feminine touch which is actually quite bloody. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
And proves an absolutely fascinating contrast with their male counterparts. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:41 | |
A contemporary of Baraldi's is another Bologna writer, who has brought | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
a journalistic rigour to the genre to become the most high profile and successful writer of Italian noir. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:04 | |
Carlo Lucarelli is the celebrity face of Italian crime fiction, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
even presenting a hugely popular TV show | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
where he casts himself as the lead investigator into real crimes. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
He has a very peculiar interest in setting himself up | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
as an investigative journalist-cum-historian-cum-writer. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:51 | |
He wants to combine all three aspects. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
He applied his extraordinary method when researching the character | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
of a serial killer in his best-selling novel, Almost Blue. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
"Sometimes my shadow is darker than other people's. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
"I've seen it sometimes when I'm walking along the street. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
"It stains the wall alongside me. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
"Sometimes I get scared that someone will notice it | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
"but I can't run away from it because it would follow me, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
"it would spread out stickily and black alongside me. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
"That's why I stay close to the wall." | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
We are inside a psychotic mind. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
That is more important than in the world that we see in some of the other Italian crime writers. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
That informs everything. So everything is paranoid, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
everything is strange, schizophrenic and disturbing. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
It was the first Italian crime fiction book which, in my opinion, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
actually integrated perfectly the best of English and American hard-boiled crime fiction elements. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:52 | |
And brought them alive within an Italian context. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
Lucarelli also used intensive research to dig up his country's | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
troubled past for Carte Blanche, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
a novel set during the final months of Italy's fascist regime. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
Lucarelli was frustrated at Italy's failure to properly investigate the fascist period. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
To research Carte Blanche, Lucarelli tracked down a former policeman | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
who had served in the fascist police. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
What shocked Lucarelli was that after the war, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
this fascist officer was allowed to continue as a policeman in Italy's post-war democracy. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:38 | |
Lucarelli's interviews with the policeman would form the basis | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
for the character of Commissioner De Luca in Carte Blanche. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
He would go on to feature in a further two novels, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
to form a period crime trilogy. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
By tackling Italy's painful history and embracing the lack of any certain resolution, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
Lucarelli can trace his method back to the roots of Italian noir. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:11 | |
He identifies in his fellow writers a shared commitment to write more than simple crime stories. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:19 | |
This is the authentic voice of Italian noir. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
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