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'It's 7am on Monday 28th March. The news headlines this...'

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Another Monday morning and I've got nothing to look forward to

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except Mr Humphrys on the radio

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and another threatening letter from the bank,

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what I'd give for one little pleasant surprise.

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Does no-one want to write to me?

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A love letter from afar, perhaps.

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Something.

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Anything!

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Oh, hello.

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Now, what have we here?

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the Rowland Hill Retired Men's Club. Touting for members, no doubt.

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Hang on. they want me to give a talk on the picture postcard.

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Why me? What do I know about the picture postcard?

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Damn!

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Hold on, Nigel.

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There's dinner and a fee.

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Ah. So what is there not to learn? I'll Google "postcards"

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and this questing vole

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will uncover the definitive story of the postcard.

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I've got just a week to get this ready, so I need a plan of campaign.

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I need to find out when the picture postcard started,

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when it was popular.

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I need to find out why people sent postcards,

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and talk about the different types of card -

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people, portraits, saucy postcards, places.

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I'll find out if people collect postcards,

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and if so, how much a good postcard goes for.

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And most of all, I need some good stories on the way.

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But basically it's pictures on the front,

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writing on the back, this should be a piece de cake.

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So what shall we call this masterpiece?

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Yep, Kisses On The Bottom, oh, no, that's far too fruity.

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A bit of poetic alliteration should do it so...

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The Picture Postcard World of Nigel Walmsley.

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As Mary Poppins once famously said,

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let's begin at the beginning, or something like that.

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Guy Atkins is a collector of early picture postcards, nice house.

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Guy, tell me when did the picture postcard really take off?

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The golden age of postcards was between 1902 and 1914.

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1902 is particularly important

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because that was the first year when divided backs were issued.

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Up until that point, you'd either have an official postcard,

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which had the address on the front and then a message on the back,

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or you had simply a picture on the front

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and then an address on the back.

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1902, the postcard was divided

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such that you could have a picture on the front,

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a message on the left-hand side and then the address on the right,

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and that suddenly became a really attractive

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form of communication for people.

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It took off. From 1902 there were 350 million cards sent,

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by 1906 there were double that,

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so 700 million cards being sent each year.

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The postal system was a key factor

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in why the cards were so useful to communicate through.

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So rather than today where you've just got one post arriving each day,

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they had up to seven posts arriving and that meant

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that you could send a postcard in the morning

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and it would arrive in the evening, so you could actually arrange

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to meet up with someone that evening via postcard,

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much as you do with a text message or e-mail today.

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The golden age is so interesting

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because people were using them for everyday life.

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They're such fantastic insights into how life was in that period.

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Some of your cards look pretty incomprehensible.

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Yeah, this one is mostly written in code,

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in some kind of Masonic cipher,

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and that's quite common because, after all,

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this is a form of communication that is public.

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People are sending quite intimate messages, sometimes,

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and they know that the card might be seen by the postman,

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by their relatives before they arrive,

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the people in the sorting office,

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and so the Edwardians did adapt to this and used all sorts of codes.

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Guy, did the Edwardians get up to any other tricks?

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Well, this next card is one

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that really plays with the form of postcards.

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This is a card from Dorothy to her grandma

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and the front is a picture of the Albert Memorial in Kensington,

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but Dorothy's written it on the Tube,

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she says, "I hope you will excuse this scribble as I am in the Tube."

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It's a good example of the tilted stamp,

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this was something that the Edwardians did

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to show affection between the sender and the recipient.

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So whilst we can't be sure that Dorothy wrote the card on the Tube,

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we can be pretty sure that she loved her grandma.

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Stone the crows, I think I might start using that code,

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but where shall I put my stamp to the bank manager?

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-LAUGHS:

-Top right, "have you forgotten me."

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If only.

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This next card is possibly my favourite.

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It's actually the first card that I bought

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specifically for the message.

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It's sent in 1904 December 21, so just before Christmas,

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and it reads, "Come home at once, all is forgiven.

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"We have not had any news from Father,

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"there is heaps of m---y waiting for you to spend.

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"Surely after that you could not stay away."

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I don't think I've come across a card with more intrigue than this one.

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It's impossible, it's impossible to know what was going on.

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Was there money? Is it a joke?

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What's the relationship between Miss Emerson and Mr Bollen

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who the card has been sent care of.

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Yes, sent just before Christmas, is it a desperate attempt

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to get the family back for Christmas Day?

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And then on the front, I think we get the sense

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that this is quite a solemn message,

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it's an image of the cross on Front Street in Rothbury.

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There are bits of information here and there on the census,

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but it doesn't really give you any kind of idea

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as to what happened before or after this message.

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So did Miss Emerson go home? No idea.

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Do the messages affect the value of the cards?

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The value of the card, of course, is what's on the front.

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If it's an early photograph,

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if it's a photograph of something rare, or a popular subject,

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then those cards will have more value than others

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but the ordinary messages which I'm most interested in,

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yes, they carry no value apart from for myself.

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"Ruby, will you please meet me on the corner of Holbeck Row

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"on Sunday morning and give you a suck my toffee apple.

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"Dear, Nell, what the deuce does Mrs K know about my doings,

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"whether I have what you say or not.

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"I never said the things accused of about Hall,

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"it is entirely faked up, and as to the whisky, in the extreme.

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"I am coming home tomorrow and may call, especially if there's any...

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"I'm surprised at not having a letter from you.

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"Don't you think you ought to write to me? I do.

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"Will you please keep your feet out of my house in my absence

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"and return the scarf pin which belongs to my husband."

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A postman's life must have been far more fun in those days.

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I want to know more.

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First of all, where did the Edwardians buy their cards?

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They would go to shops,

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there were special postcard shops in those days.

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An they stocked a massive range of cards,

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often thousands of cards,

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and people would go through and pick out what they wanted.

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But then they'd also send them to their friends.

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Their friends would say, I collect this subject or that subject

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and so when they sent them a card they had to send one

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on that subject in order to please their friend.

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And that's when the craze really took off.

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This is a favourite because it shows the old bathing hut

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that used to be in vogue in Edwardian days.

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So we just take the lever down

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and we reveal the lady in her Edwardian bathing costume.

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You just poke your finger through the hole

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to give the nose of the lady for a comic effect.

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This postcard is what is called "a hole to light"

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which means that the windows and various other features

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have been picked out so that when it's held up with a light behind it,

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you can see these windows

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as if they were all lit up and illuminated at night.

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These cards, remember, were still sold at the time

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for about a penny each and the postage in Britain was just a ha'penny.

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So it encouraged people to be able to collect postcards

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and it became an absolute craze.

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Especially as the first years of the decade came up, 1905, six, seven, eight.

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Postcard publishers came up all over the place in Britain.

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And as a result people would send postcards to each other purely,

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"Here is a postcard for your album."

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And they would be able to collect them

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and they'd have their albums like this one here

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and they'd be able to put these collections together.

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So on the next page here we have what's called

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a composite set of three postcards

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which, as you can see shows, a dachshund,

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and the person sending the three cards

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would send each one a separate week.

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Maybe they'd send the middle one the first week,

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the end one the second week, and then they'd send the first one the last week,

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so that the recipient could put all three of them together

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to make a composite.

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Those cards of Tony's were gorgeous.

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Now I need to enlist the help of a favourite old cove of mine, Ronnie Barker,

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who I recall used to refer to himself as a deltiologist,

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posh for postcard collector.

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Must have him on tape somewhere.

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First of all, we are very honoured today

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by the presence of a distinguished delta...

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deltiologist Ronnie Barker, I nearly got it wrong.

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You nearly got it wrong. How are you? Nice to be here.

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I remembered your name though. How long have you been collecting postcards now?

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I'm afraid I have been collecting them about 20 years now.

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I was just thinking back, it's about '57 I started.

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How did you start?

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I was with an actor called Peter Bull and he collected cards,

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he sent cards to other people, and I went out one day

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and saw a lot of cards at a penny each in those days.

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I bought about 100 and I looked through them and thought, "I must give these to Peter."

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I looked through them again and thought,

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"Perhaps I'll give him half of them," and that's how I started. I picked the best half.

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The cards that you've got there in your hand, they're all trains.

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A lot of people specialise in just one subject, don't they?

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Yes, these are very sought after.

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They're London and North Western Railway Company.

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You see Crewe Junction looking north.

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Looking south probably looks exactly the same.

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When did postcards actually start?

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They started actually in 1870 in Germany,

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but people didn't really collect them very much I think.

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They became very popular, they became a craze in about 1903.

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From 1903, 1908 is the absolute height

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where everyone sent cards to everyone else.

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Is he throwing her in or pulling her out?

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-I don't know.

-HE LAUGHS

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I don't think he's made up his mind.

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What else have we got, yes, I've got her, yes.

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People were bigger in those days, even the small ones.

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What have we got... Oh, yes, that looks German.

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That looks German. That's wonderful.

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You pull that and she gets a smack.

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Yes, look at that.

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End of day one and I'm warming to my theme.

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Before I turn in, I think I'll see if the postcard is alive and well.

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I'll write to some of my all time heroes

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and see if I can get a postcard back.

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I can pass round on the night of the talk.

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ALARM BEEPS

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What next.

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Tom Phillips the artist seems to have written

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the definitive book on postcards.

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He'd be a good person to ask why people collect cards.

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Postcard collecting is democratic, you can enter at any level you like

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and stay that level if you like,

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but most people are tempted upwards all the time.

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They get every postcard of Piccadilly Circus except one

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and then they're after that.

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All the dealers know they're after that,

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so if they get this very special postcard

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of Piccadilly Circus in the war

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with Eros covered up and no traffic around,

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then that's worth a lot of money.

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So if you have a postcard that was posted on the Titanic,

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not on the Titanic but with the Titanic on it,

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posted by one person that actually was just on it,

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and sent postcards right from the beginning of the trip,

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which was possible on a little boat that went back to the shore.

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I mean, they've got something with the writing on it saying,

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"I'm on the Titanic looking forward to a wonderful time,"

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and you've got something that's worth £1,000, £2,000, £3,000.

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So people, they crave rarity.

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I'm almost the opposite. I crave the commonplace.

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The thing that's the most ordinary, that's what interests me.

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But what was really interesting and sometimes not properly discussed,

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is the postcards when you could get them made of yourself.

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Go into a studio, you pay a shilling and you get 12 postcards of yourself.

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Right in the very early years of the century,

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was often the first representation of yourself that you had had.

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In fact, it was a democratisation of portraiture

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because the portrait before then

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was only allowed to the gentry or the upper gentry.

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And they had pictures of themselves and you had no pictures

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of your family in the past, if you were an ordinary bloke.

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But now, of course, you existed on a postcard

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and you had a portrait of yourself, so this was an amazing thing.

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I bought this one for about 20p.

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It's not in very good condition, but what interests me here

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is it's got everything that I require from a postcard.

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It's got a narrative of why these people are there.

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It's two people in Aberdeen in 1911,

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obviously off the fishing fleet in some way.

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And they've gone into a postcard studio, are they friends?

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What do they say? What happened before this? What made them go in?

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What was their relationship? What happened to them afterwards?

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Everything is contained in the moment

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and I just think that's incredibly intriguing.

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What happened to the guy afterwards? The black guy.

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He's obviously a West African.

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There was a record of somebody taking up farming not far from Aberdeen in 1915

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who might have retired from the sea.

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So the surroundings of that,

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the emotional surroundings, the social surroundings,

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the historic surroundings, the racial surroundings.

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It vibrates with all that for me.

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So that's why I find certain postcards incredibly rich.

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I'd never have thought of that.

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The picture postcard is the first democratisation of portraiture.

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Great card and a great quote, I'll soon sound like an expert.

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Now, I must look up a picture postcard magazine.

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Ah, here's the one.

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PHONE RINGS

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Good afternoon, Reflections, Brian speaking.

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-'Is that Reflections?'

-It is indeed.

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-'You publish the postcard magazine?'

-We do, yes.

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Many of the postcards that were published in the 1900-18 period,

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the golden age, showed photographs,

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showed scenes of towns or scenes of events

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that just weren't replicated anywhere else in photos.

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And often they're the only source of a particular event or a particular day in time.

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They are massively important and I think they're often underrated.

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Lots of Edwardian politicians were real personalities.

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Joseph Chamberlain particularly.

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And one of the elections of the Edwardian period in 1906

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was covered massively on postcards.

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Many candidates had election cards,

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there were cards detailing the results,

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there were photographic cards

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showing the results in a particular town being announced.

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Postcards did reflect politics just as they reflected

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all other areas of social and cultural life.

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If there was, for example, a train crash in a particular location,

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then a local photographer would be on hand to publish a postcard of the event.

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And people would send these to their friends and relatives

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to show them what was actually happening in their particular area.

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This happened very fast as well.

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I have a postcard of a train crash at Croydon on 10th July 1909.

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This event was on a postcard postmarked the same day as the accident, which is amazingly fast.

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So this means the crash happened in the morning,

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a photographer took a picture,

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it was printed as a postcard in the afternoon,

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and somebody mailed it in the evening.

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It's got a Croydon postmark on the same day,

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so all this was happening amazingly quickly.

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So postcard photographers

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were almost a 24-hour news provider.

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So what killed off the golden age of postcards?

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It was a variety of reasons. At the end of the First World War,

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the Royal Mail doubled the price of postage so postcards

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that had previously cost of halfpenny to send suddenly cost a penny, and then very quickly

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afterwards in 1921, they went up to three-halfpence so the cost had virtually trebled in three years.

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Also at the end of the First World War there wasn't as much money around,

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there wasn't the appetite that people had to go on holidays.

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Families had broken up, husbands had been killed, fathers had been killed,

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there just wasn't the same sort of cultural phenomenon around as had been pre-1914, the same atmosphere.

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Also more people were having telephones installed in the 1920s and therefore the whole

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function of postcards declined and postcards survived as either

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view cards of touristy places or as comic cards.

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End of a beautiful day, I think the Rowland Hill mob are in for a treat.

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Up to seven deliveries a day,

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they'd never have guessed that instant messaging started a century ago.

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And that Croydon train crash story, you'd be amazed if that happened today.

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Ah nice drop of vino plonko.

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Tomorrow I'll look for a couple of big names to add weight to my thesis.

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Now I love the way a postcard photograph fixes a place, a locality in print.

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It's a chronicle of costumes, events, adverts, people through times of peace and times of war.

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I can time travel to any location and see it develop through the decades,

0:23:040:23:10

this is becoming quite addictive.

0:23:100:23:13

And then we come to Wolverton Station...

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That old buffer John Betjeman knew a thing or two about visiting tourist destinations.

0:23:180:23:24

There are no posters on Wolverton Station and you'll notice how the signal box is made to fit in

0:23:240:23:32

with the style of the cottage to which it is attached...

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On arrival at a new place, Betjeman wrote, "I take a walk to the biggest stationers

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"and consult one of the revolving stands of views.

0:23:400:23:43

"There I generally find postcards taken by a local photographer." Brilliant.

0:23:430:23:47

If you need an instant shortcut to the best views of any town,

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just go and buy all the local postcards.

0:23:520:23:55

Of course this station is much more spick and span

0:23:550:23:58

than any other, it's won 30 prizes in the Eastern Region for doing so.

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I'm not surprised and it's not just the outside, I mean look here at

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the public waiting room and booking office.

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It looks to me from the carving and the style of it generally

0:24:110:24:16

as though it was done in the time of King Edward VII.

0:24:160:24:20

Thank you, John!

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By the time the Second World War had ended, and with the telephone becoming more common,

0:24:240:24:29

I suppose the picture postcard just morphed into the modern holiday postcard.

0:24:290:24:35

With the new generation starting to travel, the cliches of this is where

0:24:350:24:38

we're staying and wish you were here became common currency.

0:24:380:24:43

So I really need to speak to a tame telly don in order to examine the nature of this discourse

0:24:460:24:52

to inject a more intellectual tone to my upcoming after-dinner lecture.

0:24:520:25:01

-Hello.

-Is that Prof John Sutherland?

-None other.

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I understand you're always up for doing something on television or radio.

0:25:110:25:14

Yes, and if you got any donkeys I'll talk the hind legs off them.

0:25:140:25:18

OK, I'll be straight round"

0:25:180:25:22

John, I'm doing a talk on postcards. Tell me, do they have their own special language?

0:25:220:25:29

You'd write things which

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didn't contain any kind of information content at all,

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they were just what linguists call "phatic communion."

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That is to say they just established a relationship of community

0:25:390:25:44

with the person you were... Just as in a railway carriage, you might say, "Nice weather."

0:25:440:25:48

That is not information for the person sitting opposite,

0:25:480:25:51

it's a way of just a way of creating a short-term relationship,

0:25:510:25:54

saying wish you were here, having a lovely time, weather good,

0:25:540:25:58

bad, indifferent and so on.

0:25:580:25:59

The kinds of things would really be saying,

0:25:590:26:02

"I'm not lost, I may be off your immediate radar but I shall be back."

0:26:020:26:07

I don't thing that happens any more, I think the world has shrunk

0:26:070:26:11

so in fact you might make a phone call or send an e-mail

0:26:110:26:14

but in those days it was a big deal to travel

0:26:140:26:18

and part of that big deal package was sending back your picture postcards.

0:26:180:26:23

"Dear Win and Louis, thanks for your lovely card.

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"As you will see, we are on holiday and enjoying every minute of it

0:26:260:26:29

"after an enjoyable ride in the coach. Love Ivy and Bill."

0:26:290:26:33

"Dear Mother, we're having a lovely hol and the weather is really nice for a change.

0:26:330:26:38

"Hope you are feeling better and that you have got the pot off.

0:26:380:26:41

"All our love Mary and Frank."

0:26:410:26:43

"Dear Roy and Dorothy, having a good time, supped some stuff last night, dancing tonight.

0:26:430:26:49

"Twin beds here, nice to relax away from it all.

0:26:490:26:53

"Love Frank and Mary."

0:26:530:26:55

One of the interesting aspects of postcards was they were,

0:26:550:26:59

in a very small but interesting way, taboo-breaking,

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that's to say the early 20th century there was repression on

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things which were considered saucy and naughty,

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or to go one step further - obscene.

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Postcards largely escaped that because they were fugitive things,

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they would just be on a stand if you went to a newsagents.

0:27:190:27:23

It was very hard to actually oppress them

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in the same way that cinema was oppressed or radio.

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There was an area of freedom, together with certain other things because

0:27:310:27:35

when you sent postcards it was because you were away from home,

0:27:350:27:38

when morals were relaxed of course, so to some extent there was

0:27:380:27:42

this feeling of an immoral break out associated with some postcards.

0:27:420:27:48

Of course, famously was the one that Orwell wrote about

0:27:480:27:52

at great length, the Donald McGill postcard.

0:27:520:27:55

Donald McGill is the king of the double entendre -

0:27:550:27:59

he knew how to pull it off! Ha, ha!

0:27:590:28:03

So I must pack my suitcase and travel back to the land that time forgot,

0:28:030:28:08

this is the bit I'm looking forward to, the saucy postcard.

0:28:080:28:13

Some McGill cards are guaranteed to perk up my talk.

0:28:130:28:17

Mr McGill sees every angle, he is seeing the female angle,

0:28:300:28:34

he is seeing the child's angle,

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and he's just literally doing a raspberry at everybody.

0:28:360:28:39

Donald McGill was perhaps the most renowned comic seaside postcard artist of all time.

0:28:460:28:53

McGill really invented the whole genre, I don't think it's too strong an exaggeration to say.

0:28:530:29:00

He was in right at the beginning of

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the postcard boom

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and he in fact was the first full-time postcard artist.

0:29:050:29:09

He invented that genre, he had a huge output he worked

0:29:090:29:14

for almost 60 years

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and

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produced over 12,000 postcards.

0:29:200:29:23

Most postcards

0:29:350:29:37

ran into trouble as a result of local busybodies or puritans

0:29:370:29:43

getting awfully worked up and complaining.

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And when they complained, the police had to take action,

0:29:460:29:50

and then cards were confiscated from retailers

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and the retailers found themselves in the magistrates courts and sometimes

0:29:550:30:00

even in the Crown Courts.

0:30:000:30:02

The Isle of Man and Blackpool, they set up very studious censoring committees where they would have

0:30:110:30:18

all postcard artists sending their designs before the season started and those cards would be stamped

0:30:180:30:26

approved or disapproved so that they would know

0:30:260:30:28

that those cards were acceptable or not acceptable in their town.

0:30:280:30:33

McGill was prosecuted and appeared in court at Lincoln Quarter Sessions in 1954.

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21 of his cards were prosecuted and he was advised by his defence counsel

0:30:480:30:55

to plead guilty on four counts,

0:30:550:30:59

probably to achieve a more favourable outcome.

0:30:590:31:02

Bernard, what effect did the prosecutions have on the postcard trade?

0:31:020:31:07

Well, it's often felt that the prosecutions did damage the postcard industry.

0:31:070:31:13

Opinion differs and there is an argument which says

0:31:130:31:17

that the prosecutions actually gave the industry a boost.

0:31:170:31:21

Now for my celebrity surprise, the irrepressible Michael Winner.

0:31:270:31:33

Michael, do you think the McGill humour is quintessentially British?

0:31:330:31:37

Donald McGill was archetypally British, he shows the British

0:31:370:31:42

bravado during the war, he shows wonderful pictures of children,

0:31:420:31:47

the pictures were very beautiful, and he shows the British

0:31:470:31:52

as what they still are and people pretend they are not,

0:31:520:31:56

which is a cheerfully vulgar race.

0:31:560:31:59

They're quite earthy, and McGill summed up that British spirit of fun

0:31:590:32:05

and laughter.

0:32:050:32:07

He was a great social commentator of the times.

0:32:070:32:10

But Mr Winner, Michael, George Orwell said that

0:32:100:32:14

the McGill cards had ever present obscenity and a lowness of mental...

0:32:140:32:19

George Orwell was an idiot. It's quite simple, he was an idiot,

0:32:190:32:22

I mean these were very fine drawings.

0:32:220:32:24

People decried the Impressionists,

0:32:240:32:26

there was a riot when the Impressionists first had an exhibition.

0:32:260:32:30

George Orwell wasn't an art critic, he had his qualities somewhere else,

0:32:300:32:35

I'm not sure where, in the toilet maybe.

0:32:350:32:37

But what does he know about art, it was impertinent of him.

0:32:370:32:42

He can have a view of course, he's a human being, but it's a rubbish view.

0:32:420:32:45

Lot 159, first of the McGill postcards.

0:32:450:32:49

-£50?

-But in those days I did go to the option, I think

0:32:510:32:55

quite a few came up in Sotheby's Belgravia, which no longer exists,

0:32:550:32:59

-and I stood there among the motley...

-280... 300.

0:32:590:33:03

And I bought two or three and then I just kept buying them endlessly.

0:33:030:33:08

I ended up with about 180 of them.

0:33:080:33:11

Sold at 450 then.

0:33:110:33:13

Yours.

0:33:150:33:16

But if the McGill cards were so lovely, why did you sell them?

0:33:160:33:20

I sold mine because I have about 700 pictures up in my house

0:33:200:33:24

and I had no wall space for them, there's a limit of space.

0:33:240:33:29

I mean in my toilets I've got seven, eight, nine important pictures.

0:33:290:33:33

I couldn't build another house to put them up, so I flogged 'em!

0:33:330:33:38

Well, this is coming along very nicely for my talk.

0:33:380:33:41

I've got history, messages, a prof with phatic communion, and

0:33:410:33:45

saucy postcards with Michael Winner. Must work in a, "calm down, dear" joke.

0:33:450:33:52

Now I need the post-war stuff and some people who do curious things with postcards.

0:33:520:33:57

Time for a quick trip to Phil, the Demon Barber.

0:34:050:34:08

He has his own collection of cards, every one of them a barber's shop.

0:34:080:34:14

Hi, Phil.

0:34:140:34:15

Hello, how are you?

0:34:150:34:17

Yes, yes, good. Now you collect cards of barbershops, don't you?

0:34:170:34:20

Yes, I do. People send them from all over the world.

0:34:200:34:24

That one's from India,

0:34:240:34:26

There's a few here actually from India.

0:34:270:34:30

Over here, I think that's in Puerto Rico, that's France,

0:34:320:34:39

and this one

0:34:390:34:40

they're suggesting I should get a bit more modern.

0:34:400:34:44

It says, "Isn't it about time you brought your shop into the 20th century?".

0:34:440:34:48

Well, I suppose he's right really, what do you think?

0:34:480:34:53

-Well, it's hardly the cutting edge.

-Thank you, goodbye.

0:34:530:34:57

Ha, ha, ha. Actually, I think this trade bit can be quite colourful and charming whether it's beer,

0:34:570:35:03

holidays, or a bank that not only could you withdraw from,

0:35:030:35:08

you can tow it away - caravans.

0:35:080:35:11

Caravans, holidays, didn't Brian have something to say on that?

0:35:110:35:17

Postcards really came into their own again in the '60s, '70s, 'and 80s.

0:35:170:35:22

I think it was fuelled by enthusiasm of people in Britain for package holidays abroad and also for

0:35:220:35:28

holidaying at the various Butlins holiday camps and other camps around this country.

0:35:280:35:34

Butlins themselves published thousands and thousands

0:35:340:35:38

of different designs and so you get an absolute mountain of postcards available now that people sent

0:35:380:35:44

during that period detailing their experiences at Butlins holiday camps.

0:35:440:35:49

These have become incredibly collectable again now.

0:35:490:35:53

I need to find out more on the post-war holiday era,

0:35:540:35:58

I need an expert.

0:35:580:36:00

Ah, here he is, the Butlins bloke.

0:36:000:36:03

Martin Parr, why are you fascinated by Butlins postcards?

0:36:120:36:18

When I was at college I used to go and work

0:36:180:36:20

at Butlins holiday camp, Filey,

0:36:200:36:22

and it was there that I discovered the postcards of John Hinde.

0:36:220:36:25

I was really taken with these brightly-coloured, brash postcards

0:36:250:36:29

and started to collect them and got really fascinated by the whole history.

0:36:290:36:33

I discover that these were done a few years earlier when Butlins had commissioned John Hinde to completely

0:36:330:36:38

update their postcard stock and I started to collect these.

0:36:380:36:43

They were a fantastic social document of this time at Butlins

0:36:430:36:48

so for me they hit all the nails on the head.

0:36:480:36:50

They're social history, they're great to look at,

0:36:500:36:52

and they tell us about the clothes and the interiors that people

0:36:520:36:57

were exploring and using in the late '60s and early '70s.

0:36:570:37:01

John Hinde decided to employ German photographers because technically they were a lot better.

0:37:010:37:06

They were all shot on 5x4s so big cameras,

0:37:060:37:08

they would then collaborated with the Redcoats and arrange people

0:37:080:37:12

literally within the photograph, so they're all entirely staged

0:37:120:37:15

and they're super-staged and that's how these postcards would come together.

0:37:150:37:19

So they spent a lot of time maybe shooting one or two per day,

0:37:190:37:23

fixing them up, getting everything right, wham-bam shooting them.

0:37:230:37:27

Then the saturations and the separations for these

0:37:270:37:30

postcards were made in Italy to give this very bright, intense colour,

0:37:300:37:34

which is all part of the secret as to why John Hinde

0:37:340:37:37

was such a successful postcard manufacturer.

0:37:370:37:40

I've chosen here are couple to show you which are from Filey, the very place that I worked at.

0:37:400:37:44

Here's the French Bar, the fantastic interior.

0:37:440:37:48

Look at the way they've been arranged,

0:37:480:37:50

the people being set up, fantastic colours.

0:37:500:37:52

Look at the clothes that people are wearing.

0:37:520:37:55

And then Filey from Butlins is the Beachcomber Bar.

0:37:550:37:58

I worked for two summers at Butlins, first as a black and white walkie,

0:37:580:38:01

we were called, and then the second year I was promoted

0:38:010:38:04

to a colour walkie and the place where the colour

0:38:040:38:07

walkies were allowed to go to was the Beachcomber Bar,

0:38:070:38:10

which was the height of sophistication at Butlins, Filey.

0:38:100:38:14

Look at the colours as well. Aren't they absolutely fantastic?

0:38:140:38:17

Now Martin is also into motorway cards and '60s architecture,

0:38:210:38:27

but if push came to shove I wonder which he'd plump for.

0:38:270:38:30

Martin, what's your all-time favourite, is it a Butlins card?

0:38:300:38:34

Difficult to actually pin down one card that would be my absolute favourite but I guess

0:38:340:38:40

my collection of motorways is particularly cherished

0:38:400:38:43

and within that, for example, let me show this one here,

0:38:430:38:46

the Captain's Table in Leicester Forest East.

0:38:460:38:49

This was taken a few years after it opened and this is as a time when

0:38:490:38:53

the actual motorway service station was very glamorous and people

0:38:530:38:56

would come in and book themselves in for a meal on a motorway service station.

0:38:560:39:02

It was absolutely the bee's knees for a night out.

0:39:020:39:05

And here look at this other postcard of the M1, what's fantastic about it is how deserted it was.

0:39:050:39:11

Then the M1 was a really heroic thing, I remember being taken on

0:39:110:39:14

to the M1 is a treat when I was a teenager.

0:39:140:39:17

So the postcard is a very good indicator of how our social trends and attitudes have changed.

0:39:230:39:28

The period in particular that these cards come from was the time in the '60s and '70s

0:39:280:39:34

when Britain was building itself up again after the Second World War

0:39:340:39:38

and many of the things they show, such as motorways, shopping centres, all look now rather drab

0:39:380:39:44

and dreary so although technically we think of them now as a bit boring,

0:39:440:39:48

of course at the time they were really the height

0:39:480:39:50

of the new achievement of the utopia being built in Britain after the Second World War.

0:39:500:39:55

What is the appeal in boring postcards?

0:39:570:40:01

I mean, look at this, a power station control panel,

0:40:010:40:04

is this what they call post-modern?

0:40:040:40:06

Hang on though, there may be something in this.

0:40:060:40:09

On one of my old Parky's, I think there's a bit of Andrew Sachs

0:40:090:40:14

with the ultimate in boring postcards.

0:40:140:40:17

Earlier in this series I was talking to Andrew Sachs about his life and times,

0:40:170:40:20

about playing Manuel in Fawlty Towers and all that, when he mentioned his hobby of collecting boring postcards.

0:40:200:40:24

Well, that started it, from all parts of Britain they came to us by the sackful.

0:40:240:40:29

What Andrew Sachs is regarded as a private habit

0:40:290:40:32

proved to be a national pastime.

0:40:320:40:34

Anyway tonight is a big night for all the boring postcard collectors

0:40:340:40:36

because we're going to announce the most boring postcards of all time

0:40:360:40:40

and celebrate with a suitably boring prize.

0:40:400:40:43

To do the honours, please welcome the man who started it all,

0:40:430:40:45

Mr Andrew Sachs.

0:40:450:40:47

APPLAUSE

0:40:470:40:50

Here's the card you might have seen before,

0:40:580:41:00

it's this one showing a kilted gentleman

0:41:000:41:03

looking at a large hole.

0:41:030:41:04

The person who sent it

0:41:040:41:05

suspected he was doing something other than looking

0:41:050:41:08

and he christened it "Piddler of the Glenn."

0:41:080:41:13

Let's move on now, Andrew, to the three that we've picked out

0:41:130:41:17

in reverse order, as somebody else is always fond of saying.

0:41:170:41:20

-Yes.

-So the third then.

0:41:200:41:22

Well, these three, I must say,

0:41:220:41:25

they lowered our spirits considerably

0:41:250:41:29

and set the blood coagulating in my veins.

0:41:290:41:32

This one here is a classic example,

0:41:320:41:35

it's caravans, Nissen huts, prefabs are always good value,

0:41:350:41:39

and it would have actually come possibly second or even first

0:41:390:41:43

except for the inscription on the back

0:41:430:41:45

which says "Scenes of interest and beauty from Lyneham in Wiltshire."

0:41:450:41:49

Mmm, yes, a likely story. That was number three.

0:41:490:41:52

The second one,

0:41:520:41:54

this is an American entry.

0:41:540:41:56

Yes, from Judith Oakley, it's quite nice, it's again in colour

0:41:560:42:00

but it's OK, it's a brick wall with some holes in it.

0:42:000:42:04

The O'Brian Hall, Amherst Campus, it says.

0:42:040:42:07

Well, that excites me. The thing that stops it again from winning

0:42:070:42:10

is I think a little too much excitement

0:42:100:42:12

about the trees at the bottom.

0:42:120:42:14

Normally, trees are pruned at the top,

0:42:140:42:16

these are pruned at the bottom.

0:42:160:42:21

Let's now look at the winner.

0:42:210:42:24

Yes, this is totally underwhelming, it's wonderful.

0:42:260:42:30

Now, for the benefit of those viewers

0:42:320:42:35

who have perhaps summoned up enough energy to switch off

0:42:350:42:38

or go into a coma,

0:42:380:42:40

may I describe it a little bit?

0:42:400:42:42

It's almost uniformly grey or off sepia,

0:42:420:42:46

it is totally without interest.

0:42:460:42:48

Right, so that's the out and out winner.

0:42:480:42:51

Ah, boring postcards.

0:42:530:42:56

ALARM BLEEPS

0:43:000:43:03

I'm really well stocked with stories but I'm sure I'm missing something.

0:43:090:43:13

The postcard OF art and the postcard AS art,

0:43:130:43:17

what was it Professor John said?

0:43:170:43:20

They're very beautiful, a lot of them, and they were artworks.

0:43:200:43:25

This continues to the present day, and if you look for instance

0:43:250:43:30

at the kind of postcards which people like me actually buy...

0:43:300:43:34

I've got one in my pocket actually,

0:43:340:43:36

which is a very lovely picture by a very good photographer George Rodger.

0:43:360:43:43

Now I wouldn't necessarily, even though I admire his work,

0:43:430:43:48

I wouldn't necessarily buy a whole book,

0:43:480:43:50

they're very expensive coffee table book of Roger's work,

0:43:500:43:55

and also if I send it, it signals to the person I am sending it to

0:43:550:43:59

that we have shared high cultural values.

0:43:590:44:02

It's a kind of snobbery but I think a very innocent kind of snobbery,

0:44:020:44:06

the kind of postcards you choose define you.

0:44:060:44:09

Go to a museum for instance and people are buying postcards.

0:44:090:44:14

They're not necessarily writing wish you were here

0:44:140:44:16

and sending them to their nearest and dearest like we used to

0:44:160:44:19

but people still like to have them,

0:44:190:44:21

they still like to have around,

0:44:210:44:22

they're nice objects, nice things and also they are very cheap

0:44:220:44:26

so you leave the museum thinking you bought something,

0:44:260:44:29

you've got a relic, and it only cost you 90p or someone like that.

0:44:290:44:32

Gilbert and George have done some amazing things with postcards,

0:44:350:44:40

namely, stick them in patterns.

0:44:400:44:43

Oh, get on with it.

0:44:480:44:50

Why did you choose to live as artists?

0:44:570:45:00

It was not our choice, we are driven to be artists.

0:45:000:45:04

What's your favourite colour?

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We have no taste, we are artists.

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These Gilbert and George patterns of postcards from phone boxes

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and tourist shops are supposed to represent the male urethra.

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It is meant to be ironic or are they just taking the piss?

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I mean is that art or artifice?

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Come on, that doesn't look a bit like my urethra.

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Actually I don't know what it looks like because I don't think I've ever looked at it.

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OK, if you can't beat them, glue them.

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There, I'll call that Donald McGill's Blackpool Tower,

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must be worth a bob or two.

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The postcard is a form loved by many artists

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and I hear someone is doing something special with mail art.

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That's art using the post.

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To find out more, I'm going to Chelsea College of Art.

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My name is Nigel Bents and I work at Chelsea College of Art,

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and I'm involved with something called mail art.

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My explorations into mail art

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made me go in all sorts of different directions

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until I discovered that for me the postcard is an exquisite form.

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It wasn't until some years later

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that I came across somebody called Reginald Bray,

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the father of mail art.

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Bray also produced some remarkable postcards,

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in their concepts they were just tremendous

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and there's a couple that I'm going to show you now.

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It does what it says on the card really,

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it's to any resident of London

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and this postcard he sent to any resident in London.

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Sadly it didn't get sent,

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it's got a rubber stamp here of insufficiently addressed,

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but a tremendous idea.

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He was successful in sending postcards

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that were more specific, he'd find a picture postcard in the shop,

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the Old Man of Hoy, Orkney Islands,

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and would address it to a resident nearest this rock.

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He then came across a format for which I guess he was most well known

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which was his autograph card postcard

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in which he gathered the addresses of whoever was in the news

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or whoever needed their autograph taking

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and he would send this card with a bit of blurb at the top there

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saying who he is and who he was.

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He sent tens of thousands of these off, and on the back the recipient

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would sign their autograph and then post it back to him

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and he amassed a huge collection.

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It seems nothing is beyond Nigel Bents imagination

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in his testing of the resourcefulness of the postal services,

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but deep down Nigel is also a determined postcard collector.

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I'm collecting some large letter postcards at the moment,

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I'm trying to amass all 50 of the American states.

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The most important postcard for any collector and every collector

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is the one that you haven't got.

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It doesn't matter at all about any of the ones you have,

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as soon as you have them, that's done, it's on with the next.

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I do not have North Carolina yet, I will soon, it's in the post.

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I do not have Alaska, it's too expensive at the moment,

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it's £14-£15 and one person in America issues them every so often.

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And Hawaii, which doesn't exist so I intend to design it myself

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and then distribute it to needy collectors who need Hawaii.

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Stone me, postcard intercourse, and who are my correspondents?

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Ah, Jimmy McGovern! Hero of Hillsborough and the street,

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with an amusing tale of how his postman

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reads all his cards and hopes to visit all the places on them.

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I sense a play coming on.

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Nicholas Parsons! Heaven.

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"I love postcards and keep those sent to me by friends." Ah!

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"I enjoy sending postcards..."

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Bzzz! Repetition, sorry Nicholas.

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Oh, my old mate Bill Oddie.

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Ooh, gracious, not of the feathered variety.

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These cards can be my homage to Reginald Bray, the autograph man,

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after all, it is mail art and they are all male.

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That reminds me...

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I'm sure there's an old postcard album

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somewhere up here in the high Andes.

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Hello, Little Ted.

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Beano, Beano...

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bingo!

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Quite an eclectic selection, comic stuff, rare views,

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ah, Butlins, must be worth a few quid.

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Next stop, the UK's largest postcard collectors fair.

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The organiser of the postcard fair is Barrie Rollinson,

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if ever a man knows his clientele, it's Barrie.

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What a queue! Mainly men,

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with the occasional sighting of the fairer sex, presumably.

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I've got a waistcoat like that. Ah, there's one.

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This is amazing, postcards, postcards everywhere

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and not even time to blink.

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Everything! There's another one.

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On every stand, boxes and boxes of pictures and messages,

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cheap cards, expensive cards.

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Barry, everyone here seems a postcard addict.

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They have a history and a memory,

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that's what we all collect,

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memories that give us pleasure to remember these things.

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What's the one postcard you've yearned for?

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It's so easy for me to answer, my grandfather was Mayor of Rotherham

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in 1939, and a picture postcard of my grandfather in his mayoral robes

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would be an absolute delight for me. I would cherish it,

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Wow, if you could have a cornucopia of cards, this would be it.

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Nearly 150 dealers, this is the ideal place to cash in on my album.

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Ha! They'll bite my arm off.

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Yep, she'd go for my album.

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Hi, would you look at my cards,

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-I think they're rather special.

-OK.

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Some are a bit loose.

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From our point of view these cards are rather on the modern side,

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we tend to sell older cards than this.

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They changed the size of the cards

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and the bigger size cards are the more modern ones,

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which we don't have any of at all,

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or if we do they're in our cheap boxes.

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Cheap boxes?!

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I wouldn't actually be interested in buying that really.

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No, oh, dear. Well, thanks for having a look.

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Yes.

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Oh, there is Brian. Hi, Brian.

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I must buy something, I'll follow young Martin's lead

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and go for the early motorway stuff, it shouldn't cost too much.

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Have you got any motorway cards? Ah, thank you.

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-They're £2 each.

-Brilliant, great stuff.

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I'll give Barrie a waft of my album, he looks a generous type.

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These are modern, I'm sorry there's no value.

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-So I'm not going to retire on these, Barrie?

-No.

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No, but if you could I'd already be a millionaire.

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At least Brian from Reflections is bound to give me a good price.

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Right, OK.

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Anything there catching your eye?

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To be honest, to be worth any real money

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postcards have got to be pre-1920.

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We class these as modern cards

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and so the chances are there won't be anything of terrific value.

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I don't think you'd get much more than a tenner for that.

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-I know it's disappointing.

-A tenner?

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That's only three pints in old money!

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But on the upside I now think my quest is all but over.

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Time for a quick recap of all my favourite quotes from my journey,

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for as my mate Picassos said, "Good artists borrow, great artists steal"

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I think there is a magic about sending a postcard today,

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in fact I'd go so far as to say that it's in some ways

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more of an impact it has than postcards then

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because it is so unusual to get a handwritten note

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from a friend or a member of your family.

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That's good, thanks, Guy.

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Next up, Martin Parr.

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In this day and age the postcard's role

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is almost gone because everyone now has got a camera phone,

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you can send a picture, you can write a message on it,

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you can do it instantly, you don't have too rely

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on someone else to take the picture,

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you can take it yourself, so everything has its time and place

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and the postcard had had a great century and long may it live,

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but it won't because it's dying in front of us.

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Trust a photographer to be negative.

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Everything in the world is represented somehow in a postcard.

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In fact you could put it the other way round and say that

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everything in the world exists in order to end up as a postcard.

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You'll find nothing,

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you find no point of reference

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which doesn't echo itself in a postcard,

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isn't illuminated by it, any aspect of human life

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and the things we see and do.

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What more can you ask of an object?

0:56:150:56:17

Tom, I'm won over.

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As James Bond once nearly wrote, postcards are forever.

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Excellente, so I'll start my talk in 1902

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and the first split back card,

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then cover some of Tony's gorgeous ones.

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Then talk about the messages on the back

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as tantalising glimpses of Edwardian life,

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hit them with the amazing number of deliveries,

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so the card was a phone call, e-mail, text or Twitter

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all rolled into one.

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Rounding up nicely with holiday postcards

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of the post-war period,

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Butlins and all that.

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Finally the Holy Grail for the collector, an authentic card

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sent off the Titanic at her last port of call in Ireland,

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this one went for £6,500,

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Jack the writer didn't survive,

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that'll create a hush around the room.

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I could even pass round my own album,

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somebody might but it as a memento.

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But how to start?

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It just has to be a Donald McGill joke to win them over.

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Tonight's the night!

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They're going to love this!

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Gentlemen and ladies, my talk is on the picture postcard

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so I must start with my favourite Donald McGill saucy caption.

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Lady store assistant is saying to a male customer,

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"Gentlemen's requisites?

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@Yes, sir, go straight through Ladies' Underwear."

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Yes, the are picture postcard as we know it started in 1902

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-when the post office first allowed split back that we...

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