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Widescreen. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Loud. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
Technicolor. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
Long. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
Charlton Heston. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
Charlton Heston. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
The Hollywood epic had it all! | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Literally, a cast of thousands. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
People always have to die for epics, don't they? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
The largest sets, the most wonderful locations, the best scores. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
But the epic wasn't finished there. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Like the films themselves, the list of ingredients grew longer and longer. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
The romance, the happy ending, the good moral story. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
I think an epic has got to knock your socks off. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
I mean, if doesn't do something that really stretches your eyeballs, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
then, it's not doing its job. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
The glory days of big cinema were the '50s and '60s. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
This was the age of Cleopatra and Ben-Hur, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
films so gigantic their very names seem to capture the essence of the epic. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
This was their heyday - when epics entertained the world | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
and everyone was drawn into the orbit of their stellar openings. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:41 | |
Nothing succeeded like excess, and each new film added to | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
the lustre of the genre with its own attempt to up the ante. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Join us as we share with you now: | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
The Ten Commandments Of Big Film Making. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
The epic story is always larger than life. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
It has to stage an important event from antiquity. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
It has to show you the fall of the Roman Empire, or the Red Sea parting. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Something vast and violent occurring - the Circus Maximus. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Maybe, if you're really lucky, some Christians being attacked by lions. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
The setting of choice was the ancient world, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
a place where good and evil faced each other. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Often in open-toed sandals. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Primarily, and I think what most people think of as epics | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
were dubbed "swords-and-sandals" kind of movies. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And these could cross, you know, from Quo Vadis and Spartacus, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
sort of great stories of the Roman Empire or classical Greece. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
Often real history, heavily adapted for the movie requirements. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
I ask nothing for myself. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
I humble myself before you! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
Have pity on a proud old man. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
These stories hooked the audience with the epic struggle | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
of a charismatic protagonist. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
You choose a hero, who's almost invariably male, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
who has some terrible tragedy befall him, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
and spends a very long part of the film | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
trying to recoup his earlier position. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
He usually fights against an Emperor. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
He's motivated by the love of his family. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
He usually has a romance. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
No self-respecting epic was content without a dash of romance - | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
of epic proportions. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Oh, what will I do? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm not as strong as I thought I was. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I have not learnt to live without you. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
In the '50s and '60s, families were going. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
And so, you'd have to give something for everyone, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
as patronisingly as give something for mum, ha-ha! | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
There was a reason Hollywood championed epic stories. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Television posed an unprecedented threat. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Cinema's best defence against this upstart was size, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
in every meaning of the word. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
The little box in the living room looked on in envy as the epic grew. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
And grew. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
And grew. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
We attack again tomorrow. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
You will need time to recover your strength! | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Must be tomorrow. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
The enemy will only grow stronger while we grow weaker. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
It's that time when cinema is fighting back against the television, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and asking, "What can we do that TV can't do? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
"Where can we take the audience where that flickery black-and-white thing | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
"in the corner of the living room is powerless to take them?" | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
And the answer is, the classical world. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
And tales from the classical world carried their own inbuilt bonus, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
they contained a strong religious element, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
and in more churchgoing times, audiences flocked to see them. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
It was like being inside a Bible story, you know. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
You could read it in the Bible, but my goodness, this brought it to life. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
And these films really did serve that function, I think. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
They were kind of an illustrated Bible. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
The story of Quo Vadis, the first big epic of the age, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
had it all, as its trailer proclaimed. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Witness the infamous revelry of the night in Nero's court. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
You will stand with the Christians in the catacombs. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
See the battle of the giants. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
You'll know the love of Marcus and Lygia. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
The spectacle of Nero's circus. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
The terror of the arena when Ursus stands alone against death. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
One of the great features of Quo Vadis is it's set during the period | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
when Nero, you know, set fire to the city. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
So you get a really kind of spectacular burning of Rome. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
# Take now this, Rome | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
# Oh, receive her lovely flames | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
# Consume her as would a furnace | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
# Burn on. Oh, ancient Rome | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
# Burn on. Burn on! # | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
He's a violent, repressive ruler who destroys people's lives at a whim, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
who erases the city at a whim. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
And yet, we can enjoy the spectacle of the city toppling. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
We can enjoy this falling masonry. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
There's fire everywhere, extras running about all over the place. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Incredible sets being demolished and destroyed before our eyes. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
There's a fantastically spectacular image of a city on fire, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
one that would really be meaningful to an audience in 1951, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
that would still have memories | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
and who'd have seen images of the burning of cities in the Second World War. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Quo Vadis was an instant hit, helped in no small part by the sheer | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
variety of spectacle its story offered. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
These lions start pouring out of these pits | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
concealed beneath the surface of the arena. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Very cleverly constructed with | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
special-effect shots, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
so that the actors playing the Christian victims | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
aren't in too much danger, I hope! | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
As with all epics, the effect would be unimaginable without | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
the presence of armies of extras. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
The Persians. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
In big cinema, even the extras demand attention. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
The cast of thousands had an active role to play - | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
they are the children of Israel, the people of Rome, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
the slave army. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Hail Caesar! | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Hail Caesar! | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Hail Caesar! | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
If you were an extra in an epic, you could expect to be doing | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
all sorts of things - galloping around on a horse, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
running away from somebody on a horse, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
breaking rocks at some terrible place of forced labour, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
or cheering as a Christian was disembowelled by a lion. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
Making an epic required the same level of organisation | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
as waging a small war. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Or perhaps even a big war. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Soldiers! | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Citizens of Valencia! | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
We have starved you! Now you are weak! | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
But we do not wish to attack you! | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
We are not your enemies! | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
It's a forgotten art, I think, in certain ways, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
that level of crowd scene, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
that level of containment of thousands. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
So your camera is going to... Imagine the amount of aides you are going to have to control, you know, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
2,000 people, 5,000 people, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
getting them not to kind of stare into the camera, not to pull a silly face. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
You are the unity which is Rome. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
'When you think there must be someone sticking their tongue out somewhere.' | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Crowds are notoriously difficult to control. You can have someone at the back, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
looking the wrong direction, and they might not be spotted | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
when the director is looking through the viewfinder. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
An entire scene can be ruined by people in the back. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
So it is obviously much easier not to have to corral all these people, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
and shout through a megaphone, "You at the back, take your sunglasses off!" | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
So I think that I love it when I see that. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
I love seeing all this, cos I like to marvel at it | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
and also I like to imagine that I'm really there. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Crowds don't come much bigger than the mass exodus | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
in Cecil B. DeMille's 1956 version of The Ten Commandments. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
The film's biblical story shows Moses leading the Hebrews out of slavery. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
You have these thousands of extras playing the Israelites, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
flowing through this desert space with sphinxes and everything. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
It's a vast mass of people on the move. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
And, you know, this would have been overwhelming, I think, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
for its original audience. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
Marshalling 20,000 extras and their livestock was a unique challenge. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
So what the special-effects people did was to run hot wires | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
down either side of what would be the avenue down which the extras had to walk, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
so that anyone touching it would be forced to move away. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
And in that way, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
they kept a kind of clear track down the centre of the screen. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
For the epic, the sky is the limit. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
Or the sea. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
The Ten Commandments showed Moses parting the Red Sea, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
a scene of typically modest ambition requiring only cutting-edge effects | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
and a huge crowd of extras for its impact. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
There's no way you could part the Red Sea and just send the dribble of extras through to do it. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
These are films, these are stories that required casts of thousands. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
In fact, the volume of the cast was something that these films | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
sold themselves to audiences with. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Audiences were compelled by the idea that enormous numbers of people | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
had been corralled and marshalled about to make these pictures. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
In 1961, El Cid revealed a Hollywood secret. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
If you want an army of military-trained extras, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
go to Spain to hire them. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
One of the most spectacular scenes in Anthony Mann's El Cid | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
is the battle of Valencia, where you see this vast mounted army | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
pouring out of the city gates and down onto the beach. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
And these 11th-century warriors are belting down this beach | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and they meet the opposing army. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
And you see a rain of arrows coming down. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
El Cid is the story of a Castilian knight who played a vital role | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
in the unification of Spain. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
The film was shot in Spain | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and cashed in on the inexpensive labour of General Franco's army. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
The battle on the beach deployed around 3,000 troops, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
as well as over a thousand mounted police. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
They also brought their own horses. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
One of the advantages of using an army is that | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
they're already trained in combat, they're trained in horseback, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
they respond very well to direction from second unit directors and stunt coordinators. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
They do what they're told in ways that ordinary civilians often don't. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Despite having professionals on hand, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
the battle scenes were still a dangerous place to be. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
I would imagine directing a battle scene | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
before the days when you can enhance it afterwards in post-production | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
must be the worst job in the world. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
In those old days, you know, Health and Safety were not quite the twin gods of everything as they are now. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
And they're obviously using not real axes, but they're using something. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
They're all hitting each other with something, aren't they? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
There's one moment, if you look carefully in the background of the shot, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
where one of the soldiers is knocked over by Rodrigo's horse | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
after he's been wounded as the Cid is riding back, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
with an arrow in his chest, to the castle. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
He runs straight over an extra who gets trampled into the surf. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
I hope he got danger money, but whatever it is, it makes for a great moment. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
To stand out from the crowd, epic stars needed to be larger than life. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
One actor has become synonymous with the genre - Charlton Heston. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
Well, that was certainly a pretty hectic ride. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Did it nearly come off? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
Fortunately not, or I wouldn't be here. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
It's very easy to be have it turned into a...sort of a | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
turgid minestrone of | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
extras running around waving torches or, in this case, spears. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
And principle actors running around waving swords. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
And, as I said earlier, I was determined, if I did this, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
not to have it just a series of sword fights, all of which I want. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Heston is, of all actors, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
the one most closely identified with the epic form. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
And Charlton Heston himself defined the epic as any film that he was in. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Your colours are no longer black. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
He had a kind of formidable quality, an authoritarian quality, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
but also one of a kind of moral authority. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
If you are forsworn, may you die such a death as your brother did. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
Struck from behind by the hand of a traitor! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Say Amen! | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
You press me too far, Rodrigo. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
Say Amen. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Charlton Heston is your man, because he looks so imposing. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
He's got an amazing physique, and actually, an old-fashioned physique. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Not like the kind of gym-toned, bodybuilder physique | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
that all American male actors have to have now. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Those days, he just looked like he played a lot of sport, which | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
it's so much more true, probably, to the time, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
when he was playing a gladiator or whatever else. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
I mean, he wasn't always the best actor in the world, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
but he was a great star. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Come! We'll look for your hidden place | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
before the others find it. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
And it wasn't just the stars who were big, the screen itself | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
was bursting its bounds. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
The epic helped change the shape of cinema. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Until now, the choice for visual entertainment had been limited to either the black-and-white | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
of the television screen, proudly expanding to 10 or even 12 inches, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
or the equally cramped, almost square screen of the cinema. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Like proud parents, the studios sought ways to show off | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
their shiny new epics. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
They began to develop rival screening technologies. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Widescreen cinema was born. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Because size mattered. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
The huge curving screen is adjustable to accommodate any picture show. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Widescreen, cinemascope. In fact, everything. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
The new cinema is the perfect house to show, in all their splendour, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
those epic spectacular films which are today the pride of the cinema. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
In 1953, 20th Century Fox became the first studio | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
to release a dramatic film in their own widescreen format - | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
CinemaScope. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
A huge Technicolor epic was needed to do justice to the vast size of the screen. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
And they chose The Robe. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
The Robe is the story of a Roman military tribune, played | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
by Richard Burton, who commanded the unit that crucified Jesus. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Fox hyped the opening of The Robe. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
But then, they were expanding the audiences' horizons. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
The first shot of The Robe, the first CinemaScope film, is of a massive red curtain. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
Very much like the curtain that would just have parted | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
in the auditorium itself where the audience were seeing the film. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
The red curtain carries the opening titles of the movie, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
and, after the end of the titles, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
the curtain on the screen parts. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Rome, Master of the Earth, in the 18th year of the Emperor Tiberius. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
The screen gets bigger, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and bigger, and bigger, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
and BIGGER! | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
And before you know it, the screen is enormous. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
And you're in the middle of a gladiator arena. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
The sound is loud, it's stereo. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
There's speakers all over the cinema, it's coming out of everywhere. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And you hear Richard Burton's booming voice telling you | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
this is the height of the Roman Empire. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
I think the experience would have been extraordinary. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
The makers of The Robe pulled out all the stops to create | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
a splash with their new format - they even cheated a little | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
in post-production by adding shots from another film. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
The opening shot of the gladiator arena, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
that wasn't from the film itself. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
It was actually from Demetrius And The Gladiators, the sequel to The Robe. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And they just thought, "Hang on, we need a really big image, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
"big kind of epic scene to begin with. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
"Let's just stick this shot from the sequel in, to kind of like..." | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
There isn't... That shot with the gladiator arena... | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
There isn't a gladiator arena in the rest of the film. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
It just appears in that one shot. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Fox believed that the experience of watching The Robe in CinemaScope | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
should be more immersive, like watching it in 3D but without the glasses! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
And some critics thought it would be more honest | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
and more realistic cinema | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
because, as a spectator, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
you would be able to pick out for yourself | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
what you would be looking at. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
So when you get something like this sort of slave market scene. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
And has the protagonist kind of walking along through this scene, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
and really observing Roman life, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
I think the idea was that you could, as a spectator, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
find the position almost for yourself in that screen. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Look here, look here! A singer, a dancer, a companion for a noble lady, or a noble gentleman. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
Stop, gentleman! | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
A priceless gem for your household. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Look here... | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
The Robe was a winner for 20th Century Fox. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
The Robe was a box office hit, it was the biggest hit of the year. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
CinemaScope has come. Widescreen is the future of cinema. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Following this success, the other studios scrambled to | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
create their own widescreen formats such as VistaVision at Paramount. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
The vast expanse of these new bigger screens needed filling with | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
something that would convince the audience that | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
what they were watching was actually happening. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Rome wasn't built in a day. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And neither were the sets that anchored these extraordinary stories in reality. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
They may not have been historically accurate, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
but, God, they felt authentic. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
When one looks back on these films and, for example, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
you see stills from them or stills of the main sets, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
you are just amazed, really, by the vast, the sheer scale of them. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
It's a very important factor, I think, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
that the money is spent on creating those sort of backgrounds, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
cos it gives a veracity to the whole thing. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
To entice viewers away from the telly, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
the studios dangled their remarkable sets like a carrot. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Senators of Rome! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
The fact that the sets are huge is endlessly publicised | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
in the sort of pre-film publicity. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
So a lot of the advertising that was enticing people | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
to come into the cinema was kind of telling them, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
how much money was spent on the sets the costumes, the set designs. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
So, partly, making these elaborate sets is about creating | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
a sense of anticipation, creating a sense that what you're going to see is an event in itself. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
Epics had been made since the beginning of cinema itself. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Silent classics like DW Griffith's Intolerance | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
had all the scale of the Technicolor epics, only in black-and-white. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
In 1916, in Hollywood, Griffith builds Babylon, full size, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
a city actually built to contain | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
hundreds and hundreds of extras. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
You could drive a chariot along the walls of the Babylon set. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:48 | |
He shot it with this phenomenal kind of early crane, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
whereby the camera could move towards the set and through the set and down, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
so that you get this sense of being like a bird flying | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
above this vast city in which there's continual movement. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
And the sheer size of it, the elephants holding up the roof, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
the vastness of the design, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
the beauty of the way the patterning had been done in the walls and so forth, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
is saying continuously, "Look at the money we've spent." | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
In 1959, MGM chose to remake a silent classic. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
Ben-Hur became the archetypal epic, sweeping the board at the Oscars | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
including the ultimate prize in cinema - Best Picture. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
The film tells the story of Ben-Hur being sent into slavery by Messala. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
The defining moment is when the two men square off in a chariot race. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
It's like seeing a sporting event, cos you're actually looking at a stadium. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
And it's been built for you, and some sport is laid on for you, you know. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
It's a...imagine that! | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
If hearts were set racing by the speeding chariots, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
the eyes were dazzled by the set of the circus. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
It was an enormous set. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
I think it was, it was something like 2,000 feet long | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
and 650 foot wide. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
I remember that shot where the chariots are lining up at the start of the race. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
It's against such a massive entrance, and it's been shot and edited so logically, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
it feels that they are not showing you a huge bit of set, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
it really is a stunning shot. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
Those wonderful statues, they still have some copies of them, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
which I've never seen in any antiquity any statues like that. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Yet, they seem perfectly right, they really look terrific on the screen. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
The scale of the sets of Ben-Hur sometimes had a surprising effect on the audience. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
I must have been about eight or nine when I saw Ben-Hur in a cinema - the State Cinema in Grays. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
What I remember particularly was that I wasn't scared by | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
the close-ups or the violence or anything like that. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
I was scared by the big stuff, the huge sets gave me a kind of vertigo, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
which I actually found quite difficult to watch, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and I had to keep the rest of all the heads of the audience | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
in my field of vision, but quite often I was just sitting | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
there like that, and almost all the way through I was sitting like that. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
With Ben-Hur safely Oscared, the epic now reached for new territory. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
For David Lean's Doctor Zhivago Moscow rose again in 1965, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
just outside Madrid. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
The seasons were cast aside as a snow palace was prepared. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
Unfortunately, it didn't snow that year, and they waited, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and waited, and waited. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
And no snow fell. A little bit of snow fell, but nothing like enough. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
So they had to get to work with all | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
the devices of, you know, laying carpets, spraying things, simulating snow. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
Nobody, of course, who sees the film doubts for one moment | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
that this is not the depths of snowy Russia. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
It is magnificently done, and it's probably one of the great | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
pieces of trompe l'oeil, of making us feel that we are in a freezing Russia. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
Turning a dusty Spanish plain into a winter wonderland was | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
a masterclass in production design. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Zhivago is interesting because of the techniques that were used to | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
create this winter. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
They did sort of the icicles in fibreglass and then coated them | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
with paraffin wax, so the appeared to be melting. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
And then, I think, they had some winter trees in the foreground, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
and that gave the impression of a huge winter landscape. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
This is the lie that cinema tells, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
but would it be any better, if it had been done somewhere else? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
I don't think so. It doesn't matter. It what it looks like, and it looked absolutely amazing. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
With so much on offer, there could be only one outcome | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
in the small matter of the duration of these films. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:33 | |
One of the things about epics is they are really, really, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
really long. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Four hours, you know, they can be four hours long. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
If it's less than two hours, it's not an epic. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
It's just a film with some Romans in. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Over two and a half hours. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Over three and a half hours. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
It's possible with an intermission. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Ideally, with the first cut by the director that was about five hours long, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
the studio laughed out of the screening theatres. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Long running times made the audience feel | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
they were getting their money's worth. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
And cinemas cashed in by selling more refreshments. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
And I do remember that, you know, you chew your way through, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
continuously, these films. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
And quite often, there were epics about people having trouble finding anywhere or any food to eat. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:30 | |
And there you are, stuffing yourself. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
There's somebody crawling across the desert, starving, towards you. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
Or, you know, entire crowds of people crying out for bread. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
And you're sitting there, thinking, "Oh, poor love, terrible." | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Epic films were SO long that the audience required a break. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
The human bladder has limits. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
The cinematic intermission was born, endowing the epic with a sense of grandeur. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
The intermission says this film is really long, right? | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
It's like a theatre play. This is, I think, what the intermission is all about. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
It gives the illusion that you are actually at the theatre, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
so it makes it posher and better, because all theatres have intermissions, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
all plays have intermissions. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
During the intermission, the audience could discuss the film, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
including what the leading ladies were wearing. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
For epic extras, costume was a case of "one size fits all". | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
I've seen a few kind of battle scenes being done, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
and the efficiency with which sets costumed their extras is a marvel to behold. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
There are kind of these really long tents. There's a queue lying on one end. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
And a queue going out the other. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
In plain clothes, there's kind of normal people stepping on one end, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
and out the other end come Romans. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
There's a certain identikit, kind of toga/ancient Roman costume, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:24 | |
kind of "one-size-fits-all" kind of effort. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
But when it came to the stars, nothing was impossible. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
For Cleopatra, 20th Century Fox had to dress the biggest star of the day, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
Elizabeth Taylor. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:39 | |
Both the actress and the character were flaunted in the publicity material. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra, Siren of the Nile. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
Her stunning beauty and notorious intrigue | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
turned the tide of civilisation. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
Cleopatra's lavish costumes became famed for both quality and quantity. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
The film won an Oscar for costume design, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
and Taylor held the Guinness world record for most costumes changes. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
I'm sure that the studio were very keen that Elizabeth looked sexy. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
It would have been pointless making the film | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
if she'd looked like Old Mother Frump. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
And Cleopatra, of course, prettiest woman in the world, and all those things. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
So there had to be some bosom on display, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
there had to be the marvellous swan neck. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
That had to be the profile. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Then accept it, Caesar. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
I have never before settled for half a victory. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Nor will you now. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
Caesar, mighty Caesar... | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
All I can say to you is what you've taught me: | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Take a little, then a little more | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
until finally you have it all. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Crucially, to emphasise Elizabeth Taylor's rather ample cleavage, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
they keep putting a slit in her costume. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
That's absolutely not an ancient Egyptian, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
that's Elizabeth Taylor. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Although they were set in the past, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
canny epics ensured they tapped into a modern zeitgeist. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Elizabeth's costumes look very much of the 1960s. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
Some are more successful than others. They were an awful lot of them, 65. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
And I read that 40 costumes, in addition, were never actually used. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:31 | |
"Liz Patra" became a fashion icon - | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
women everywhere wanted to get the look. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
In magazines, it was sold the idea of the Cleopatra look. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
Hairstyles, kohl eyeliner, Egyptian style, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
sort of art-deco-ish kind of costumes. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
And these were all items that you could go out and you could buy, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
and in particular the make-up and the cosmetics really took off as a style. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
Eyeliner, you know, I don't know which came first, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
but the heavy kohl eyeliner of Cleopatra. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
The wacky eyeliner became very, very fashionable in the '60s. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Now, today the girls are going for the Cleopatra look, including Holly Elwis. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
I have with me David Aylott, who was in charge of all the make-up | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
on the film Cleopatra when it was being made in this country, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and did, in fact, make up Elizabeth Taylor herself. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
I'm going to be a guinea pig, and perhaps you will be kind with | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
the help of our assistant, Claire Wallace, to make me up as Cleopatra. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
Let me see how you do it. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
Well, there you are - Cleopatra. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
My, my... Hollywood, here I come! | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Cleopatra's costumes had to be up to making a grand royal entrance. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:02 | |
Cleopatra's entrance to Rome is one of the great spectacular sequences. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
Through the Arch of Constantine, which, by the way, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
wasn't built until 250 years later, never mind. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Through the Arch of Constantine, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
pulled on this giant sphinx mobile, you know, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
a huge sphinx on wheels pulled by countless Nubian black slaves. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
She sits on this sphinx, in this gold costume, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
with the sun disc on her head, covered in sort of gold leaf. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
And then, when she actually gets there, after all this pomp | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
and wonderful music, you know, fanfares and marches, she winks. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
So we are not being that pompous - we're being Elizabeth Taylor as well. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
It's one of the great spectacular scenes in epics. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
To stand out from such a spectacle, designer Irene Sharaff | 0:36:00 | 0:36:06 | |
had to create a costume that was a cut above. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
In the world of the epic, the logical answer was a dress | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
fashioned from 24-carat gold. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Incredibly elaborate, beautifully made. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
I've held it, and it's amazingly light. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:24 | |
It's an applique on to a | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
virtually transparent black net, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
And it's like scales. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It must have taken a whole gang of ladies to embroider. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
You know, weeks and weeks of work. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
And then, at the end of the film when Cleopatra kills herself, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
of course, that's what you would kill yourself in. I mean, it's quite logical, isn't it? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:56 | |
You would wear your best, because that's how you wanted to be remembered. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
And the Roman asked, "Was this well done of your lady?" | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
And the servant answered, "Extremely well." | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
As befitting the last of so many noble rulers. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:18 | |
There's no question, the epics looked the part... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
so the music had a lot to live up to! | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
There's a remarkable amount of music in these epics. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
Sometimes scores that last 100 minutes. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
I mean, an incredible amount of music. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
And they give an extra kind of grandeur to what | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
you're seeing on the screen - an extra sense of scale. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
To infuse the epic with a sense of occasion, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
the studios stole another idea from the theatre. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
The overture warmed the audience up for the forthcoming entertainment. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
Now, Ben-Hur, for instance, had a massive overture, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
specially written, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
which contains most of the themes you'll hear later on in the film. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
So it's doing what an overture will do for any opera. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
It unspools over about eight minutes. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
During that time, it's on the soundtrack on the film, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
but there's no pictures on the soundtrack. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
So the film is actually starting in the projector, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
and what you get is eight minutes of music with the curtains closed. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
It think this was... This made sense if you'd already announced | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
to people there would be an overture of so-and-so. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
But when I went to see Ben-Hur, I think I was amongst a whole audience of people who couldn't | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
understand why the curtains weren't open, because the film had started. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
Well, actually, no. What we were treated to | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
was the equivalent of the orchestra in the pit, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
giving us the music we were going to be getting later. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
And then, the curtains open, off it goes. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
I'm sure there were projectionists out there who just cut off that | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
eight minutes of leader film. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
The rest of the film was full of dramatic scoring | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
to heighten the action. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
DRAMATIC MUSIC | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Hollywood invented the sound of ancient Rome. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
What we think of as Roman music is really 19th-century classical music, | 0:39:54 | 0:40:01 | |
filtered by geniuses, particularly like Miklos Rozsa, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
who scored Quo Vadis, scored Ben-Hur. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
And kind of came up with a chord structure | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
which sounds like it could be ancient, it sounds like, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
it starts sort of "pum-pum-pum, pum-pum-purum" sound. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
It sound like what we think Rome ought to have sounded like. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
It's probably about as unlike the ancient world as you could possibly get. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
But not all epics were set in the pomp of Rome. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
And a new setting required the search for a new sound. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
As David Lean found with Lawrence of Arabia. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Seeking out the score for Lawrence of Arabia, David Lean | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
had an idea in his head that he could never vocalise to anyone. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
He said, "I know what score I want. I need someone to give it to me". | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
And they went through a lot of the big composers of the time, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
and David would sit there and the composer would say, "This is what I thought of..." | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
And he'd shake his head and go, "Yeah, it's nice, but I've heard it before." | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
And he couldn't find it, until these various networks of people said, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
"There's this young French guy, you know, he's just starting out, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
"you should give him a try. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
"His name is Maurice Jarre." | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
He comes in and David Lean goes, "Who is this young child?" | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
And he sits down at the piano and he wipes his hands, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
and he begins to play the great, you know, Lawrence of Arabia theme. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
Lean stands up, puts his hand on his shoulder, and goes, "You've got it." | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Jarre sounds expensive and glamorous. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
And that I think it's part and parcel of what the epic is. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
This must have a terrific amount of money spend on it. It's a Faberge egg, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
and the music sounds like it is coming from somewhere very luxurious. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
And in that wonderful scene, when Lawrence blows the match out | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
and kind of blows the song up over the desert, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
you give this build of music. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Bild-bild-bild-bild-bild-bild, and then a cut. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
Push! To a full summer light. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
MUSIC BUILDS TO CRESCENDO | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
And it's like, "We are in the desert, and it's gorgeous. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
"It's not hot, it's not killing, it's nothing of those things, but it will be later." | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
But for now, we're in the Hollywood desert. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
I remember buying the piano music of Lawrence, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
and also learnt how it worked. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
That sweep of sound. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
That's something that could really have come from the movies, I feel. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
Everything about the epics was rich and lavish. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
Rich, lavish and expensive. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
In the war against TV, Hollywood had waged a no-expense-spared campaign. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:49 | |
When they made epics, they went for broke. Almost literally. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
The budgets of historical epics, I think, are governed by a whole | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
different area of mathematics that doesn't apply with other | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
forms of calculation, because they always got massively out of hand, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
and that, weirdly, they became one of the appeals of them to an audience. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
When you remember in the 1950s, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
the average cost of a movie, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
of a major studio Hollywood film | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
was around a million or million and a half dollars. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
And a film cost 13 and a half million dollars, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
as The Ten Commandments did, or 15 million dollars, as Ben-Hur did. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
These are huge, huge sums. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
None had a bigger budget than Cleopatra. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
At an estimated cost of 44 million dollars, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
it was the most expensive film ever made. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
Adjusted for inflation, it still is today. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
Nobody could have really foreseen the problems with Cleopatra. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
They built the sets in this country, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
but unfortunately, Elizabeth Taylor wasn't well. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
She had a tracheotomy or something. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
They had to stop production, actually close it down. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
This is just unthinkable - the amount of money they wasted, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
and then they moved it to Italy and rebuilt it in Rome. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
They basically built the sets twice. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
Now, that sounds like a lot of money wasted to me! | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
One of its interesting features for us now | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
is that you can read all the letters backwards and forwards | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
from the studio in America and the producers in Italy at the time, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:26 | |
saying how the huge cost of sustaining Elizabeth Taylor | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
in her villa outside the city of Rome. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
She was described as having "cushions and furnishing covers | 0:45:34 | 0:45:40 | |
"that had to match the cigarettes she smoked each day." | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
That kind of cost is clearly going to spiral out of control, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
as indeed, it did. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
Taylor became the first ever film star contracted to earn | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
a million dollars for a single film. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
Elizabeth told me that she was quite proud of the fact that | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
she was the highest-paid film star of that time and I think that | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
the original fee that was negotiated was for a million dollars, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
which in the early '60s must have been an enormous sum of money, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
but I think she eventually earned seven million | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
because of overages and because it went on for so long. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Hoping to replicate the success of Ben-Hur, 20th Century Fox | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
threw good money after bad. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
But this was the tipping point. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
Cleopatra nearly bankrupted its studio. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
It was so expensive that, even with packed houses, it took years | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
to return its investment. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
Then, in 1964, came Samuel Bronston's aptly-named | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
The Fall Of The Roman Empire. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
The choice of title proved fatally prescient. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
The Fall of The Roman Empire is the last of the big epics | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
of the post-war period. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
One of the reasons for that is the huge amount of money | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
that it invested in its spectacle, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
the spectacle, particularly, of the Roman Forum. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
And what we see is the Emperor Commodus, in triumph, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
moving through the Roman Forum set. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
So you get a very strong sense of the money | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
that was spent on creating a full, huge set of this kind. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:27 | |
The set that was built for it still holds the record | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
of being the biggest set ever constructed for a motion picture. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
It has a cast of thousands of extras | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
and not enough people went to see it. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
This is the moment when the bottom falls out for the epic. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
When audiences develop a kind of fatigue and don't want to see | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
Romans any more and don't want to see the classical world. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
The Fall Of The Roman Empire cost 16 million to produce, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
God knows how much to market, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:02 | |
and it grossed less than 2 million at the American box office. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
The public just got sick of epics, because there were too many. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
I am leaving with my husband, and soon I'll be far from this city. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:25 | |
I think it's like having a rich banquet, really. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
You can't have three rich banquets in a row. You need a little snack. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
It wasn't just familiarity that had turned cinema-goers away. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
By the mid '60s, the cinema audience had changed. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
Whereas in the early '50s, going to the cinema | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
was a family experience, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
by the mid '60s, there had developed a suburban life, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
DIY had taken over from cinema-going for the adult community | 0:48:49 | 0:48:55 | |
and it was largely teenagers who were going to the cinema | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
and what they wanted to see was their own lifestyles on screen. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
So, we get the teen flick, the horror films, much more violent, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
much more sexually explicit cinema. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
'This was the beginning of the fall of the Roman Empire. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
'A great civilisation is not conquered from without | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
'until it has destroyed itself from within.' | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
Which is what the epic had seemingly done. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
Traditionally, when people write the history of the epic, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
they draw a line under The Fall Of The Roman Empire | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
and say, "See - that was the fall of the epic". | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
And in a way, it was, for a time. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
But the epic is always ready to bounce back and although it did mark | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
the end of a period of epic production, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
it was only a temporary halt. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
Hollywood may have turned its back on the epic, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
but other countries were ready to take up the reins. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
So the epic moved eastwards and it shifts to countries | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
where you can afford a large army, where you've got crafts skills, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
where you've got a landscape that doesn't have telegraph poles | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
so you can have a 360 with the camera without examples of modern civilisation. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Epics don't have to be Judeo, Christian, Roman. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
They can be other things, too | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
and there are some very interesting epics made in other cultures. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
An international tradition of epics had grown alongside | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
the Hollywood version. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
The Russian War And Peace featured 120,000 Red Army troops, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:53 | |
temporarily distracted from their day job of global domination. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
The film was so long, it had to be released in four parts. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
Japan's Kurosawa was in the epic game by 1985. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
Ran, the most expensive film made there to that date, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
retold the story of King Lear, set in feudal Japan. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Ran does what all the best epics do. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
It transports us back to a barbaric past and it does so | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
on an epic scale. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
It's got fantastic costumes, a marvellous sense of the movement | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
of armies and, of course, they're more exotic for us | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
than the Roman armies that we're used to in many epics. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
Like its Hollywood predecessors, Ran treated the audience | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
to spectacular set pieces. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Most memorable is the burning of the castle. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
This was reminiscent of Rome in flames in Quo Vadis. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
They build a castle and they set fire to it | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
and you get the destruction of the castle in shot. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
So, Ran is an example of conspicuous production | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
and with conspicuous production, you get conspicuous destruction. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
It's like car chases. They like watching car crashes. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
You can't do it in real life, but you can enjoy it vicariously in the cinema. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
You can't burn down a castle in real life | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
but it's great to watch it on the screen. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
More recently, Russian Sergey Bodrov filmed the epic Mongol | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
in remote locations in Kazakhstan and Inner Mongolia. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
The idea of making a film about Genghis Khan, who conquered | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
most of Europe in the 13th century, is a story just waiting to be made. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:10 | |
The great thing about making an epic about the Mongols | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
in Kazakhstan is that you're in a land | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
where feats of horsemanship are still running in people's blood | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
and so, I think, what Mongol has to draw on | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
is the great tradition of eastern horsemanship | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
and you do see it on the screen. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
This is horsemanship of a kind that we haven't really seen | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
since the great days of Hollywood epics in the 1950s. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
It actually gets to the heart of what made the Mongols so successful. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
They were great horsemen. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:50 | |
Mongol was filmed in the east, where extras were cheaper. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:55 | |
But the budget could still only stretch to some 1,500 people. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
A far cry from the glory days of the Hollywood epic. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
But this was a 21st-century production. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
Mongol could expand its crowd scenes | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
with the occasional use of Computer Generated Imagery. CGI. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
The very technology that invited Hollywood | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
back into the world of the epic. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
Ridley's Scott's Gladiator was the first classic | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
Hollywood epic for decades. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
It was greeted as a long-lost friend. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
40 years after Ben-Hur, Gladiator swept the board at the Oscars. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
Once more, an epic was awarded Best Picture. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:43 | |
Gladiator is one of those landmark films that led everybody to say, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
"Where has the epic been? It's come back!" | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
Director Ridley Scott was able to make Gladiator on an epic scale | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
as he recreated Rome through CGI. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Rome still wasn't built in a day, but it WAS built in a computer. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
When everyone was waiting to see what CGI could do | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
for the reconstruction of past worlds, and in his film, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
we finally get to see the Coliseum, but we see it with the gladiators | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
on ground level, as the camera moves in a 360-degree circle | 0:55:17 | 0:55:23 | |
and they are amazed and aghast at the images they see before them. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
All they did was build half a Coliseum and then, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
using computers, build the top tiers | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
and it was one of the early examples of building crowds with CGI. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
An interesting use of crowd technology, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
so the top two tiers of the Coliseum aren't real people, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
they're CGI versions. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
The spirit of the resurrected epic had also spread | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
to the work of other directors. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
James Cameron's Titanic employed set-building on a scale | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
not seen for 30 years. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
But seamlessly integrated CGI helped sink the ship. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Most recently, Cameron has taken it one step further, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
restyling the epic in Avatar. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
I think Avatar is basically how the epic is going to become. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
It's going to show, "Let's do CGI to build huge worlds virtually, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:33 | |
"in a virtual environment. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
"It's not going to be new sets, nothing physical, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
"let's just make it in the computer | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
"and our only limits are our imagination." | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
The climax of Avatar may be a virtual 3D image, | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
but this well-choreographed battle scene is highly reminiscent | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
of the scale of the battle of Valencia at the end of El Cid. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
We have the most extraordinary sensation of going into battle | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
against this great machinery of the Earth forces | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
who are trying to conquer the Na'vi | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
and I think it delivers that sense of being on the weaker side, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:18 | |
who will triumph because they're fighting for their livelihood | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
and their beliefs. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
The qualities that set the epic apart were many years in the making | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
and this heritage will continue | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
to contribute to our cinema-going experience. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
They aimed for the stars, and we loved them for taking us beyond | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
our imagination...even if they did try a bit too hard at times. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
But it's those elongated entertainments of the '50s and '60s | 0:57:44 | 0:57:49 | |
when film makers did it the hard way that will always hold | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
a special place in the epic hall of fame. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
In these films, you can see the blood, sweat and tears on screen. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
It is the 11th unwritten commandment that makes them truly epic. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
"Thou shalt keep it real." | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
It's interesting. Digital film can do anything. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:17 | |
You know, you can paint in a million Orks | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
or you can paint in the Titanic or whatever, and in a funny way, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
it's taken a step back from the point of view of suspension of disbelief. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
There's something about knowing that, physically, that set was built, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:33 | |
that there really were thousands of people there, that makes you | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
suspend your disbelief and really get lost in the story. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
It's like "Do you believe in Walt Disney cartoons?" | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
No, you can admire them, you can enjoy them, you can cry, but they're not really happening. | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
Whereas these epics were really happening. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
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