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In Britain's not too distant past, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
our relationship with food was such that, for most people, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
going for a meal outside of the home was not | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
something done for pleasure. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
This is one of the new British Restaurants. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
They're starting them all over the country to feed people | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
during war time and - ha, ha - do they feed you! | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
But the dining-out experience was about to be transformed. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
We'd soon get into the habit of eating out. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
But first, we needed quite a bit of help and encouragement. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
The only spaghetti we knew was like baked beans-y stuff in a tin, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
and tomato sauce. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
And it wasn't just the spaghetti that changed. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Migrants from Italy, China | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and the Indian subcontinent helped us develop a taste for eating out | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
and, in the process, created meals that we've come to call our own. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Leaving their home countries with the hope of starting a new life | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
and arriving in Britain with few options, many opened restaurants. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
As an immigrant, you have no choice. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
You slightly have to take what you get, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
you have got to carve out your own niche. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
They brought with them new ways of dining and they taught us | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
how a meal out could be something not to endure but to enjoy. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
These restaurants helped to democratise the dining-out | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
experience by making a meal out accessible, inexpensive and | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
a touch exotic. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
And you just sat there and quaked | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
and hoped that you ordered the right thing. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
And it was pretty red hot. It was really brilliant. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
And they built on the British culinary tradition of fusing | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
tastes from elsewhere to spice up the often dull traditional cuisine. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
If you look at our food culture, since time immemorial, we've begged, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
borrowed, stolen, used, adapted foods from all over the world. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
This is the story of how Britain's food migrants helped us | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
discover the joys of eating out. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
In September 1940, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
British people were forced to discover the benefits of eating out. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
The government encouraged millions to dine at their communal-run | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
restaurants - not as an enjoyable treat but as a necessity. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
War in Europe and at home had displaced large | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
sections of the population and caused shortages. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Strict food rationing soon followed. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
People often, for the first time, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
were living away from home. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Not just soldiers, but, you know, factory workers and so on. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
And so therefore, you had to eat out much more. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
And I think they weren't necessarily going out to eat for pleasure, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
as we think now. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
We think of going out to eat now as we're going to go and have a | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
really nice dish of something interesting or good to eat. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Then I think you went out to eat | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
because that's where you had to find a meal. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
To help ease the pain of rationing and being away from home, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
the government opened its own chain of canteens. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
It was a smart move and mass catering became an effective | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
way of conserving precious resources and keeping people fed. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
The canteens were to be called Communal Feeding Centres, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
but it was decided that British Restaurant sounded more appetizing. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
We've had as much as we can eat, with rice pudding | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
and cups of tea to follow, for four and tups. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
And another thing, it helps the country. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It saves food, fuel and time. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
At its height, the so-called British Restaurant had | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
over 2,000 branches and was serving some 600,000 meals a day. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
Whilst the fare served was basic, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
the British Restaurant brought people together. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
And pudding for tuppence provided much needed comfort food. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Because that built on | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
the egalitarian sort of experiences | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
of the war, where no matter where you came from, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
you had fought together, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
you stood shoulder-to-shoulder together, you died together, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
this was, you know, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
a statement of the new Britain that we were all hoping to build. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
This new Britain would be a long time coming. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Peace had been secured in 1945, but the victory was bittersweet. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
Rationing would cast a long shadow | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
and the hardship of food shortages continued. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Rationing sort of ended in 1954. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
And why did it take so long? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
And you can imagine that the population actually was | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
somewhat resentful of this process | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and felt that it was, shall we say, an imposition. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
Even after rationing ended in 1954, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
dining out for leisure | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
remained something restricted to the better-off. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
For eating out regularly, that was people with a good | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
deal of money who would go off to what were always | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
smart French restaurants. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Yet for those who could afford it, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
the range of dining options was still somewhat limited. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
If you go back and look at the Good Food Guide of the 1950s, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
you'll see how restricted the range of culinary cultures to | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
choose from actually were. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
There had been a restricted diet during the war, there was | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
a restricted diet after the war. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
And so there was very little glory on the plate. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
But Britain was changing. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
A new optimism was mirrored by an increase in aspiration. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
People were hungry for something new, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
something better. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
The time was right for culinary change, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
but the revolution, when it came, would happen in the very British, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
very traditional setting of...the pub. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Although converting a pub into a fine dining venue might have | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
seemed like a very British solution, the idea actually came | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
from elsewhere, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
from two Italians - | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
brothers Frank and Aldo Berni. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
They even gave their new concept their Italian surname - | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
the Berni Inn. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
The first Berni Inn opened in 1955. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
Frank and Aldo's timing was perfect. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I think the Berni Brothers were absolutely inspired | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
in realising just what the British public needed | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
imm...you know, fairly soon after the war, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
when they hadn't had any meat or any sugar or any fresh eggs or | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
any of the things that we take for granted now. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
And they were sick and tired of eating horrible old ration food. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Serving up a dining experience | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
that was both sophisticated and aspirational - | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
at a price most could afford - | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
the Berni Inn seemed to be just what the British had been waiting for. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
I had prawn cocktail. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Prawn cocktail followed by steak or chicken. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Prawn cocktail, steak and chips, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
and Black Forest gateau. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
That was by far the most popular meal you could have there, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
but also, it's a great meal! People sort of make fun of me, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
but I think a prawn cocktail is absolutely delicious. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Steak to me was a sort of...an aspirational dish. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
And the steak at the Berni Inn was really good, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
to the extent that I went round the back one night, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
in Leicester or Northampton or somewhere | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
to see what kind of steak | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
they were cooking. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
And I found a box. And it was short sirloin or short rump from Argentina. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
So, in other words, they weren't skimping on the raw materials. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
The Berni Inn would become THE place to go for a special night out. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
I seem to remember it being very much a family thing. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
The family were going for a night out for Mum's birthday, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
maybe couples would go there for anniversaries and things. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
But it was a family atmosphere, as far as I can remember. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
If you are talking about my first-ever attempt to take | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
a date out for a meal, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
in places like Northampton, Newark and Darlington, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
it would've been at a Berni Inn. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Drinks were an important part of the offer at a Berni Inn. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
What was incredibly successful | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
was the schooner of sherry. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Cos in those days, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
people did drink at lunchtime. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
It was about that big. Yeah. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
The sophisticated thing | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
was to go and have a schooner of sherry. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
And it looked vast. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
It was only when you had actually drunk it, in about two mouthfuls, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
you realised that the schooner was almost entirely made of glass | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and the actually bit inside to put the sherry in was minute. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
But they were great big things. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
MUSIC: Sh-boom by The Chords | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
The first-ever Berni was set up in an old coaching inn in Bristol. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
For Frank and Aldo Berni, it gave them | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
a chance to experiment with their new ideas. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
The Rummer was the first Berni Inn that was opened. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
I think Dad got an understanding | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
of what customers wanted through working | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
in catering from a young age, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
from seeing how much... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
..waste there was. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Cos if you go to a very grand restaurant, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
you have... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
Because it's part of the sophisticated thing of going | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
to a restaurant. ..you get a huge choice of exotic foods. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Very expensive if you're a restaurateur to run. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
So he saw that actually, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
if you just provide steak and chips or chicken in a basket, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
um, that's all you had to provide, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
and that is precisely what the public came to eat. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
# I get no kick from champagne... # | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
The Berni Brothers had a clear idea of what diners wanted | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
because they had a lifetime of experience in the catering business. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
They had a canny understanding of what would encourage us to eat out. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
They were a good foil for each other. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Particularly Dad | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
was quite a shy man | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
and quite sort of cerebral. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
And he needed time to think and develop things. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Uncle Aldo was not as shy as him | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
and was much more the front man. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
The Berni Brothers' concept - to make quality dining accessible to | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
all - was one that had been simmering away for many years. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
The success of their business had its roots in their Italian origins. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
The Brothers Berni had migrated to Britain from the poverty | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
of rural Italy. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
They were one of many Italian families who moved to the | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
mining valleys of South Wales. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Frank Berni arrived in the 1920s to be with his family in Glamorgan. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
He came over by train, not understanding a word of English. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
And was on the train with another Italian who | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
got off the train before him. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
And he said, "Well, what do I do when I get there?" | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
He said, "Just get off the train and say, 'Berni,' | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
which he did. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
And then he worked in the business. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Frank got off his train in Merthyr Tydfil. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
His surname was well known in the area because it was above each | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
of the 48 Italian cafes owned by other members of his family. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
But the Berni's family business was just the tip of the iceberg - | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
there were hundreds of family-run Italian cafes | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
throughout South Wales. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
They didn't go down in the mines because their prowess was | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
they knew they could cook. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
They know... They can make coffee, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
they could do this, they could do that. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
And opening up a shop... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Because, don't forget, at that particular time, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
there weren't pubs around. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
It was more of a temperance movement with the Welsh people. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
And cafes then became meeting places. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
The shops were famed for serving hot coffee, ice cream | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
and evening meals. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
There was one family name that would become the catch-all | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
name for all these Italian cafes - | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Bracchi. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
Because they were so popular and so numerous, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
they were all called bracchis, with a hint of Welshness - | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
braaacchis. SHE LAUGHS | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
There were a lot of Bracchis, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
but there were also a lot of other Italians, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
like the Contis. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
We had 17 cafes at one point. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Popular with the mining community, Italian cafes, or bracchis, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
were a familiar sight throughout South Wales. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Because the miners were always down in the pits, it started off with | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
when they came back up again. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
Their throats were sore, they were filthy and thirsty. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
And the Italians were very good at ice cream, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
so they used to make ice cream. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
The cafes developed, I think, into more restaurants, where I can always | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
remember steak and kidney pies, the steamed steak and kidney pies, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
which was a big seller in my father's cafe. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
The Italians were very, very good to adapt to the needs, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
if you like, of what the South Walians wanted. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
You know, people love these places because they were welcoming | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
and people were very friendly. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Quite often there was music played in the coffee shops | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
and people singing along. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
So the atmosphere would have been great. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Also, you have got to remember, cafe meant sobriety. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Southern Wales had a long Methodist tradition, chapel tradition. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
There was a great worry about drinking. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
So you could all go out but do something sober. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
And your wives could come too without feeling threatened or frightened. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
The family only lived at the back of the shop, and so would come in | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
and... You know, it was pretty much a very friendly | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and family atmosphere in the Italian shop. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
The Italian-owned cafes of South Wales | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
played their part in democratising eating out, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
long before the government-run British Restaurants. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
The Italian emigrants brought with them an informal approach to | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
dining that working people could enjoy and, crucially, afford. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
A lot of Italians, well, they knew what it was like to be hard up. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
They didn't used to up the prices of anything. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
They used to try and keep all the prices as low as possible | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
so the working people could afford to just go out and relax. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
It was in this Italian catering business where Frank | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and Aldo Berni learned their trade and how to identify a target market. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
But it would be on a trip to America where Frank Berni found | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
the inspiration for the new dining concept that | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
lay behind the idea of the Berni Inn. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Uncle Frank had the idea of steak bars from a trip to America. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
When he went to America, he saw the beginnings of that | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
kind of restaurant where you could multiply a formula. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Frank had noticed that the American steakhouse had strict | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
but simple rules that allowed | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
them to multiply quickly. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
This principle would be applied to the British pub. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
The Berni Brothers kept | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
their menu simple and trained their own chefs using the Berni Manual. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
They could take people | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
almost off the street | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
and within a reasonable amount of time, train them | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
to serve steaks properly cooked, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
fish properly cooked. And chips. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
That meant that you could go out into other cities | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and train people quickly. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-Can I read you a bit out of Bernie's Rules? -'Of course you can, yeah.' | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
HE SIGHS Well... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
Here is a Berni's Rule Book. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
"Ingredients. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
"3oz of sirloin steak. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
"3oz of gammon steak. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
"3 1/2 ounces of lamb cutlet. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
"See card number G3-7. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
"Watercress - one tenth of a bunch. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
"Sausage four minutes. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
"Service and presentation. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
"Place grilled items, vegetables on a very hot plate and garnish." | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
This formulaic approach meant that diners knew exactly what to expect. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
They were getting very straightforward, simple, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
not risky food. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
The English, as we know, are very cautious about their food. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
And they knew what it was going to cost them. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
And that is, I think, what... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
It actually encouraged people to start going out. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
A - they knew what they were going to eat. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
B - they knew what it was going to cost. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
And it was hugely attractive. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
The concept proved massively effective. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
By the 1960s, Berni Inns had expanded nationwide | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and were widening their appeal. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
'Tennis champions eat at Berni's Inns. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
'They like the first-class service.' | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
All right, let's go. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
'But what everyone likes at Berni Inns are the tender Berni's steaks. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
'There's a place for you at your Berni Inn. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
'Why not join the Berni Set?' | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
Members of the Berni Set didn't enjoy just a steak dinner. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
Whilst the food and the pub setting might have been traditional British, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
the Berni dining experience was delivered with Italian style. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Frank and Aldo refurbished many old coaching inns, giving them | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
a particular look. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Eating at a Berni would be easy on the eye as well as the pocket. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
It was a little bit of a fold-a-roll | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
and sort of curly-Q kind of world. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
I remember them as having dark wood, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
with a mixture of sort of banquettes and tables and lots of red and | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
lots of candles and bright lights in a nice, old-fashioned building. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
It was Italian warmth, Italian service, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
but with a great Englishness. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
They tended to be slightly mock-Tudor, if I remember. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
It'd almost try and be an Italian pub, you know. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
So if it was the Duke of Wellington, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
they'd have a whole lot of prints of Waterloo. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
But they were great fun. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
And obviously, that helps sell these places. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
People were always interested in the history of them. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
That was always written up. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
When you went to the restaurant, you could see... | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
"Do you have the history of that?" It was written up everywhere. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I have nothing but good memories, so, the Berni family... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
Grazie. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
The Berni Brothers combined Italian informality and flair with | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
the formula of an American steakhouse chain - | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
all delivered in the familiar surrounds of the traditional | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
British pub. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
Although the Berni Brothers brought some Italian panache | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
to the dining-out experience, if | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
you wanted to actually eat Italian, you'd have to look elsewhere. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
Italian migrants in London had been a familiar sight to | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
diners for many years. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
The capital had a long tradition of Italians | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
working as waiters. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
By the 1960s, some of these waiters | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
opened their own restaurants, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
this time selling their home cuisine. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Pasta was an acceptable foreign food. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Garlic might be hidden away and it wasn't too obvious. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Tomato sauce was not actually...not that much different from tomato | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
ketchup. Anyway, it's that sort of familiarity. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
And it made pasta familiar. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
At first, Italian food was an urban affair. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
You could get a carbonara on Carnaby Street, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
but you wouldn't find any linguini in Loughborough. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
The only spaghetti we knew was like baked beans-y stuff. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
You know, in a tin and tomato sauce. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
'There are a thousand ways of cooking spaghetti, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
'but only one way to eat it properly. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
'It takes skill and enthusiasm.' | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
And where did this mystery foodstuff pasta come from? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
Thankfully, the BBC were on hand to inform, entertain and enlighten. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
In 1957, there's this famous broadcast on April Fool's Day | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
by Richard Dimbleby, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
where he says...he talks about the spaghetti harvest in northern Italy. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
And there are these fantastic shots of young girls taking | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
the spaghetti down from the trees. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
'The last two weeks of March are an anxious time | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
'for the spaghetti farmer. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
'There's always the chance of a late frost, which, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
'while not entirely ruining the crop, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
'generally impairs the flavour and makes it difficult for him | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
'to obtain top prices in world markets. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
'But now these dangers are over and the spaghetti harvest goes forward. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
'After picking, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
'the spaghetti is laid out to dry in the warm Alpine sun. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
'Many people are often puzzled by the fact that spaghetti is | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
'produced at such uniform length. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
'But this is the result of many years of patient endeavour by plant | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
'breeders, who've succeeded in producing the perfect spaghetti. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
'And now the harvest is marked by a traditional meal. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
'For those who love this dish, there's nothing like real, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
'home-grown spaghetti.' | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
This broadcast went out on television and people genuinely believed it, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
so much so that inquiries came in saying, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
"How do I grow my own spaghetti tree?" | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
The official answer given back was, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
"Buy a tin of tomatoes and put one sprig in it." | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
# Veni, vidi, vici Veni, vidi, vici | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
# The moon above was yellow... # | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Whilst we might not have impressed the neighbours with a spaghetti | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
tree, an Italian restaurant was soon a favoured romantic rendezvous. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
# Veni, vidi, vici Veni, vidi, vici... # | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
What you went there was for the sense of occasion, the sense of pleasure. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
If you were with a girl, they were going to fawn on her, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
make her feel that she was the most beautiful and the most wonderful | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
person in the entire world, and that would reflect very well on you. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
And I think everybody felt that they could go there. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
# In our little rendezvous We kiss... # | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
And I remember, you know, in my 20s, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
when I went to an Italian restaurant, I couldn't afford | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
to have the main course, the meat and fish dishes, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
but you could sit there with a bottle of Frascati | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and have a pasta course. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
So the Italian restaurants completely democratised | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
glamorous eating out. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
They were... It really was a revolution. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Well, sometimes I'll have a spaghetti, which I like very much. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
But I think the coffee...the coffee bar, it's marvellous. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
It's a good thing. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
So the ordinary cafes, some people, you know, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
they think...at least I think they're higher class than me | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
because perhaps they're artists and things like that. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
But I think they're no different than me, really, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
so that's why I come in here. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
I mean, I'm just a common chap, like, which likes his pint | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
and all that. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
Italian migrants were among the first to encourage the cautious | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
British to try something different. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
They may have started it at a very small, local, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
domestic level through cafes and ice cream shops, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
but they brought the same sort of energy | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
and sense of hospitality when they started opening, you know, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
these smart trattorias up and down the country. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
And a visit to an Italian restaurant wasn't just about the food - | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
it was about the experience. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
By stepping inside, diners were transported to an imagined Italy. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
The decor was to give people a sort of feeling of Italy. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
I mean, OK, it was completely... | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
You now, artificial grapes hanging from the ceiling | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
and vistas of the Bay of Naples on the walls. But simple tables. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Instead of carpeted floors, they were tiled floors. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
So it was much more romantic. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
The trattoria had this sort of grape vine up there. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
And what we did, we used to put the grapes, hang the grapes, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
in the morning. So when people ask | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
for grapes to eat, we stood on a chair, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
picked up the grapes and cut it. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
And one waiter would hold the bowl like this, full of water. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
And then we cut the grapes | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
and put the grapes inside and give it to the customer. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Which again, it was part of the ambiance, part of the atmosphere. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
While the music in the background was playing, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
singing Amore, or whatever. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
Whilst diners enjoyed the bolognese | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
and chianti, there was one Italian classic that wasn't on the menu. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Pizza originated in Rome and Naples, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
and it was served mostly as street food. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
You wouldn't find pizza on the menu of the Italian coffee shop, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
spaghetti house, or Berni Inn | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
because Italian street food wasn't thought of as something | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
the British would enjoy. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:24 | |
It would be an entrepreneur from Peterborough | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
who would see the potential of pizza. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
Peter Boizot would discover a slice of Italy | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and bring it back to Britain. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
In doing so, he gave us a new dining experience - the pizzeria. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
Well, I had my first pizza in Italy in 1948. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
And then I lived abroad for a while. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
And when I came back to England, in 1964, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
I couldn't find any place to eat a pizza, a decent pizza. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
So I thought, "Why not open my own pizzeria?" | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
It really was a revelation. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
Because there hadn't really been pizza until that time. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
And the huge difference with Peter Boizot's pizza was, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
they were actually...they were authentic. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
In 1965, Peter Boizot opened his first Pizza Express | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
in London's Soho. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
In the early days, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:19 | |
he presented the food exactly as it would be served | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
in Naples or Rome. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
I started with big trays - | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
square trays, oblong trays - | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
and I cut the pizza into eight slices | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
and served it on a piece of grease-proof paper. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
And it went well. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
But a dear friend of mine, now dead, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Ron Simpson came along and said, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
"Why don't you server round pizzas with a knife and fork?" | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
So I moved over to that, and it went very well. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
By moving it from the street to the table, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Pizza Express had taken an unpretentious Italian food | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
and dressed it up for the modern British palate. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
The timing was key. In 1965, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
we were in thrall to all things Italian. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Italian chic may have been too expensive for many. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Dining in a pizzeria, on the other hand, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
was a stylish and affordable way to sample la dolce vita. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
Pizza Express wasn't expensive. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
I think it was affordable-chic. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
From top to bottom of society, they came. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
And, um, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
I didn't do anything to stop them. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
If the music of Mozart conjures up for you images of Baroque cathedrals | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
or the hills of Salzburg, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
as you listen to this performance of the Salzburg Serenade, think again. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
Oh, yes, the setting is Continental all right, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
but it is not quite so exotic as the music might suggest. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
In fact, it is a pizza bar next door to the British Museum. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
This was a wonderful democratic form of eating out. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
They were an excellent product. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
And not only that, but the places themselves were big, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
they were buzzing, lots of people coming and going. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
It becomes part of the evolution. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
It's another stage in the evolution of British eating-out. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
He wasn't interested in the family atmosphere. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
He wasn't interested in big fat mama with her great big | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
sort of steaming bowl of pasta | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
coming out and smiling at everybody. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Whilst Peter Boizet's mother might not have been on hand | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
to serve customers, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
to attract hip Londoners to his restaurant, he had to get | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
the atmosphere just right. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
We did have classical music on a jukebox. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
And one afternoon, Timothy Cramer came in and said, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
"Would you like to have music for real?" Classical music. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
I said, "I'd be delighted." | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
And, uh... So accordingly, he started playing. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
-'Are you delighted with the results?' -Very much so, yes. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
'Is it good for business?' | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
It's good for business, but I think the aesthetic | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
pleasure of the thing is what interests me the most. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
The fusion of music and mozzarella would prove to be | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
a recipe for success, and a string quartet with a side of | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Mozart wasn't the only thing on the menu. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
I went there to listen to jazz, actually. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
One, two, three four... | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
I had always been interested in music and jazz. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
You had a carafe of wine, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
you had a very satisfactory pizza, probably more than you could eat, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
and you got music. It was a fantastic deal, you know. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
It was a really good evening out. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Um, simple, you know, no frills. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
And you pretty much knew what you were going to pay when you went in, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
unless you had a second carafe of wine, which...sometimes we did. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
There was more than just music providing the entertainment - | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
making pizza was an amusement in itself. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
There you are, you're seeing | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
the pizzaiola chuck the base up in the air. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
You're seeing waiters come in like that, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
with a pizza in each hand, shouting out the names. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It's fun! It's a good atmosphere. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
I didn't want to hide them away in the kitchen. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
So I brought the kitchen out. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
I can work at the rhythm of the music, you know, it's very good. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
'Do you prefer it the nights the musicians are here rather than | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
'when they're not?' | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
Yes, I prefer when they are in. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
With authentic pizza-makers in charge of the food, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Peter brought in an Italian designer to complete the Pizza Express look. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Whether it's the Berni Brothers introducing the Welsh to | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Italian ice cream and coffee | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
or Peter Boizot fusing Neapolitan street food with jazz, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
the modern British eating-out experience | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
owes more to immigration than it | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
does to the foreign travel industry or the recipes of celebrity chefs. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
And it wasn't just Italians who enticed us to eat out. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Italian cuisine was largely popular in big cities. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
But in small towns and suburbs, there was another migrant community | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
opening restaurants in their thousands - the Chinese. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
'A few of Britain's Chinese live and work in the city Chinatowns, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
'like London's Gerrard Street. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
'But the great majority live in small family groups scattered | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
'throughout every town in Britain.' | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Chinese was our way of going out, I think, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
because we didn't feel threatened by Chinese food or Chinese service. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
We felt warm in it. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Whereas I think we've all been nervous with a French waiter, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
and even Italian waiters sometimes, looking down on us | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
cos we're not as sophisticated as them, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
we haven't...we're very ignorant of food. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
But of course, it's OK to be ignorant of Chinese food | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
because of course we haven't been to China. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
Many of these Chinese who opened restaurants throughout Britain | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
had emigrated from Hong Kong during the 1950s. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
They had moved to Britain in search of a better life. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
Civil War and revolution in mainland China had forced | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
thousands of refugees into Hong Kong. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Many continued their journey, settling eventually in towns | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
and cities up and down the British Isles. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
When a community settles overseas, its first problem, of course, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
is to survive. In other words, to make a living. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Now, how do we Chinese tackle that problem? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
There are two major lines of business which we Chinese go into - | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
the food business and laundering. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Certainly when the Chinese came over as immigrants to England, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
they worked in launderettes. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
And as that industry died, because people had washing machines at home, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
the only thing they could convert those into was maybe take-aways | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
or restaurants. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
Chinese restaurants soon became a favourite place to eat out, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and by the 1960s, there were over 2,000 of them. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
In 1965, a survey revealed that almost a third of those questioned | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
had eaten at a Chinese restaurant whilst only 5% of people had | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
dined on French cuisine. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
The Chinese restaurant drew us in to unchartered waters, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
and we were intrepid explorers. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Absolutely terrifying. I mean, there it was in the far East End of London, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
never been that far east, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
and you just didn't know where you were. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
And you just sat there and quaked | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
and hoped that you ordered the right thing. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
And it was pretty red hot. It was really brilliant. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
The first Chinese restaurant I ever went to was this Chinese | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
restaurant just off Piccadilly Circus. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
It was upstairs. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
And it had a wonderful gloominess to it. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
And there was a sort of sense of going into a foreign country. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
It was wonderfully exciting for a ten-year-old boy, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
nine-year-old boy, whatever I was then. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
And everything about it was strange. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
And of course, there were these things called chopsticks, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
which took you the entire meal to try and master. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Western people often wonder | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
why we Chinese use chopsticks | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
instead of the usual knife and fork. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Well, the answer dates back to Confucius, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
as so many things in China date back to Confucius. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
He once said that a man of virtue will never live or go | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
anywhere near to the kitchen or the slaughterhouse | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
because he doesn't want to hear the killing of animals or to see | 0:39:48 | 0:39:54 | |
the meat being carved and sliced up. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
And that's why, in China, the slicing and carving of meat | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
has never been allowed onto the dining table. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Confucius almost certainly didn't have much to do with it, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
but chopsticks went a long way to promoting Chinese food in Britain. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
1960s Butlins holiday-makers might have encountered, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
alongside the knobbly knees and bonnie baby shows, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
the eating with chopsticks competition. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
VOICEOVER: Use chopsticks, it's easy, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
or so they told these other holiday-makers | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
at a Clacton holiday camp. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
They've entered a Chinese eating competition, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
because they've never tasted Chinese food before. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
Nobody realised they'd have to do it the hard way. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
This fellow would do better with a spoon and pusher. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
And look at that lady's stroke play. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Yes, it does taste good, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
and he wouldn't know, of course. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
He hasn't started yet. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
Hey, what's this? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
He's really mixing it now. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
Madam, please, that's just not cricket. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Oh, forget the chopsticks then. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
He's found the chop. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:22 | |
The showbiz version of chopsticks and chop suey | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
was a world apart from the real story. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Many migrants from Hong Kong followed in the footsteps of | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
the Italians in Wales, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
opening restaurants in working class suburbs and towns. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Lily Kwock set up her restaurant in 1950 just outside Manchester. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
It was one of the first of its kind. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
There's a famous quote that says, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
"The journey of 1,000 miles starts with one step", | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
and it really started with her in Hong Kong | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
working for an English family. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
And after post-war Britain, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
the English family wanted to come back. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
The lady that she looked after and cared for passed away, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
left a small inheritance for her, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and then, from there, she used that money | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
to start her own business. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
She set it in Middleton, in the 1950s. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
And they initially thought she was Japanese, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
so they boycotted her first restaurant, the Lung Fung, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
cos they thought she was going to poison their food. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Er, my grandmother, being entrepreneurial | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
and determined to succeed, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
hired a local lady called Mavis, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
and it was Mavis that helped to bridge the gap | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
and bring locals to come and try the food. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
They were won over by the spices, by the tastes... | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
You know, by the whole experience of dining out. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Lily's initial business, The Lung Fung Cafe | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
was modest by today's standards. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
My grandmother's restaurant in the 1950s | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
was a very basic restaurant | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
with, you know, white walls, tables and chairs. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
I think expectations were quite low. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
So, it didn't matter that she had a very basic restaurant. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
Middleton is a working-class area, you don't want to make it too posh | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
and put your diners off. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:36 | |
You've got to make it comfortable, so that they feel welcome there | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
and that's exactly what Lung Fung was. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
She was obviously, you know, very entrepreneurial, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
and I think she went up to about 26 shops, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
which was amazing for a woman in the '50s to do that. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
She had so many regular customers | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
who would order the same thing again and again | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
that I don't think she even needed a menu at one point. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
Some of those original customers still remember their introduction | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
to Lily's food. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:11 | |
The first time I went to Lung Fungs | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
was with my friend on a Friday night | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
and he said, "I'll take you for a good curry", | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
and we went to this, Lung Fungs is like a Chinese restaurant. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
So, we went in there | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
and it was, had flags on the floor, and all that, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
and she used to have a dish, a jug, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
and organise some forks in. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
So, it was really like, old fashion. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
After she'd been here a couple of years, they had a toilet put in, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
but it was right in the centre of the room, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
and if you were on the toilet, everyone could hear you. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
Opening a Chinese restaurant during rationing posed its own problems. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
When she first opened in the 1950s, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
obviously, there is a limitation on what kind of foods is available, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
and she was very creative, so she would adapt. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
If there wasn't sugar, she'd put apples into the curry | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
to sweeten things up. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
Um... | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
I know the curry used to change colour from green to yellow | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
depending on what was available. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
But, you know, she managed to find the spices from somewhere, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
and kept the customers really hooked on what she made. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
CHINESE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
Lily's culinary legacy is still evident today. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
60 years on, her family continue to cook her curry. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
My grandmother and my parents have had | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
a massive influence on my life. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
You know, in a former life, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
I used to be a lawyer. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
And so, I've given that up to open up a restaurant with Lisa, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
who used to work in finance. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
So, we have actually changed our paths quite significantly. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
To actually be able to make her dishes today | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
keeps her memory alive. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:07 | |
Hong Kong wasn't the only territory that would have | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
a profound influence on the British eating out experience. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
By 1970, Britain was fast becoming a diverse, multicultural society. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:25 | |
MUSIC: Paper Sun by Traffic | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
There were already well-established Asian communities | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
throughout Britain, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:37 | |
but relatively few Indian restaurants existed. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
It was migration from a specific region of the Indian subcontinent | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
that would introduce many of us to 'Indian' food. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
There's a lot of Bangladeshi people in Great Britain, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
but 90% of the people there came from Sylhet province. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
So, basically, actually, there are 90% Bangladeshi people, | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
they're called Bangladeshi, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
but they are from a particular part of Bangladesh, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
and they all speak with the same Sylheti dialect. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
The 9,000 Indian restaurants in this country | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
are actually owned and staffed by Bangladeshis. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
So much is the connection between the two countries | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
that St Albans actually is twinned with Sylhet. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
In 1971, Sylhet became a focal point in a civil war | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
between East and West Pakistan. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
The conflict arose when politicians in East Pakistan | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
declared independence from West. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
They named their new state Bangladesh. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
There was a refugee crisis. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
Millions fled the conflict. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Thousands of families from Sylhet came to Britain | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
in the hope of starting afresh. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
With limited employment opportunities, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
these migrants found Britain a difficult place | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
to begin their new lives. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
I think, for a lot of the immigrants, if not every immigrant, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
I think it was a really big shock to come to England. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
I mean, I don't know what they had quite expected, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
but you leave this vibrant country | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
where there is this big sense of community | 0:48:07 | 0:48:08 | |
where you sort of know a lot of people, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
you have a lot of family around you, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
there is colour and there is music and there is Indian food | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
and there is everything on the street and at home. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
And it's quite chaotic but it is anything but dull. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
And then you sort of come to England and... | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
And it's grey and it's dark early and it's raining. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
And you come back and your neighbourhood's really quiet | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
and you come back to your flat. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
That's quite a culture shock. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
-PRESENTER: -The Pakistanis are moving in and doing well. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
Kusna has to rub shoulders with the Nasral restaurant. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
The Ironmonger Libovitch has a new neighbour - | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
the halal butcher. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
It's the East End story. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
One wave of immigrants being followed by another. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Servicing the fallout from one particular British pastime | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
would present a late-night opportunity. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
When the Indian food started, I can still even... | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
my father and my uncle...used to be trouble all the time. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:11 | |
Indian food actually was the last option at the late-night. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
Their Indian restaurant used to open | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
until two, three, four o'clock in the morning. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
And on Friday, Saturdays, they had a lot of trouble. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
They were the only people who would stay open that late | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
to try and get some business, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
and they found quite soon that actually | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
if we stayed up until after the pubs close, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
we have a passing trade. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:34 | |
And no-one else really wanted to be open that late, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
they want to be in bed with their families. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
But, as an immigrant, you have no choice, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
you slightly have to take what you get, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:42 | |
you've got to carve out your own niche. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
The 1960s and '70s are now seen as | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
a time of increasing liberalisation, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
but for many migrants these decades were tainted | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
by racism, violence and routine discrimination. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
I'm sure if we are going to make ourselves | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
more acceptable to this society here | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
and have good relations with them, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
we have to readjust ourselves | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
and try to know their point of view as well. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
But dining out was one way the British | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
could get to know their new neighbours. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
I think the great thing about what Indian restaurants have achieved | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
and, in fact, all restaurants achieved | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
is they've managed to break down the barriers of race, class and sex, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
but especially race. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
It's very difficult to feel racist or xenophobic | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
when someone's just entertained you, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
in extensibility, their home, their restaurant. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
If someone feeds you, it's difficult to distrust them after that moment. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
Obviously, unless you get food poisoning. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
But, but, you, I think that's been, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
that's why this country has such a good track record of racism, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
because of the plurifilation of Indian, Chinese, Italian restaurants | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
throughout the UK. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Definitely, if you look around, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
I think the British culture is the one who's sort of accepted... | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
and adopted all these cuisines. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
And now, I mean, you get them on every street corner. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
I would almost say it's almost like modern British now | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
because you can eat modern British food | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
and have some spices from here and, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
I don't know, you just do. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:19 | |
And I don't know if it's because | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
they have the whole Commonwealth and they've travelled more | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
and they have more of a history | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
or if English food just really needed it. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Just as the Bernis had gone into serving steak rather than pasta, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
and Chow Mein was often eaten with chips, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Indian cuisine has adapted to cater for British diners. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
A lot of the early Indian food in this country | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
was made for a British palate. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
Hey, too hot for you, is it? | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
No, no, it's fine, is this. You know, it's all right. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
We've had much hotter than this. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:01 | |
Remember where we used to go to | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
-after night school? -Oo, yeah. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:04 | |
-I like it hot. -Hey, what is that? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
-It's lime pickle. -Chilli, I think. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
Here, you're looking really flushed. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
Carling shatters more thirst than any other lager | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
and leaves you with a flavour to savour. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
It's safer to not have really strong spices | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
when people are not really used to spices. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
ALARM RINGS | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
HE PANTS | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
It's not what you would call proper Indian home food, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
and I think that's why our curry houses are slightly confused | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
because the people who cooked it all from one region | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
and its Bangladesh now, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:42 | |
but at one point it was Bengal, which was part of India. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
They didn't have the right ingredients | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
to cook their own home food. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
And, they were used to this restaurant style of cooking. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
So, I think all these forces came together | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
and we ended up with the British curry house. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
Indian food in the UK is as much influenced by British taste | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
as it is by Indian spice. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
To some British Asians, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
the local version of curry is unrecognisable. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
-VOICEOVER: -This is the chef, the Vesta chef | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
who diced the beef, sliced the onion, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
mixed the fruit, ground the spice, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
stirred the curry, prepared the rice | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
that went into Vesta beef curry, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
and it took him three hours. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:19 | |
This is the wife who went to the pantry, who opened the packet, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
then cooked and served that wonderful Vesta beef curry, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
and she did it all in 20 minutes. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Some of the dishes do show a resemblance to what we eat at home. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
They might not be called that, the same sort of thing, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
but they do have resemblance there. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
And other ones are completely different. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
They're not things we'd even consider making at home. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
I don't think my mum even knows how to make chicken tikka masala, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
so, whereas, obviously, she would know | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
how to make something like a bhuna, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
which is that sort of flavouring and that sort of spice. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
MUSIC: Song Of Innocence by David Axelrod | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
Well, there isn't really an Indian food, as such, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
and we've now learned that, cos now we have all the regionalities | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
coming out in restaurants, in supermarkets, in magazines now. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
Everything's like a Keralan this or a Goan that, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
which is great, because that provenance is enough. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
Cos there isn't a universal Indian flavour, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
but there seems to be when you enter a curry house. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
That's where all bets are off and everything changes. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
SITAR MUSIC PLAYS | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
Indian restaurants have succeeded so well in Britain | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
that nearly all of us have own favourite curry house. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
We're now fluent in Indian food. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
Some of them didn't bother to look at the menu. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
They know exactly what dish they're going to have, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
but 40% will ask to look at the menu. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
For 10 minutes, they'll browse for 10 minutes, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
then, 10 minutes later, they'll order the same dish. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
What the Indians did so brilliantly | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
was they standardised their menu right from the beginnings. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
When they, even in 1910, they standardised, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
they invented these dishes called dopiaza, and all this sort of thing, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and they even invented chicken tikka masala for us, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
because a man ordered chicken tikka, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
which, as you know, is a dish without sauce, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
and said, "Where's the gravy?" | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
You hear a lot of stories about how it was invented in England | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
and it was an English dish. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
And I know that you will never find a chicken tikka masala in India, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
but it's so similar to butter chicken, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
is kind of grilled tandoori chicken in a creamy tomato sauce. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
Now, for me, it's so clear that there's an origin, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
so I'm not convinced that that's a true urban myth, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
that it was invented by some punters. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
After over 40 years, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
the typical British curry house is still a family-run business - | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
and a thriving one. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:33 | |
And if you go to London and all over the UK, actually, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
our family and our distant cousins, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
they are still involved with the restaurant business. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
They own a lot of restaurants. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
I wouldn't be surprised if it was | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
a good few hundred coming up to 1,000 in regards to numbers | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
if you take that into account. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
By enticing us to dine out and to try something different, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
generations of immigrants have transformed | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
the British eating experience. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
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Migration has given us more accessible, more affordable | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
and more accommodating restaurants. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
This has helped democratise dining out for everyone. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
I think people learnt to eat out. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
In 1959, we only spent 10p in every pound that we spend on food | 0:56:30 | 0:56:36 | |
on eating away from the home. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
In 2005, it's now 38p, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
so very gradually, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:42 | |
we learned to be comfortable sitting in a restaurant with a menu. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
So, the experience is no longer intimidating as it once was. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
These restaurants encouraged us to try new things | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
and be a little more adventurous. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
What it does is that people get used to spending money on food | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
that they're not eating at home. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
They get used to eating away from home. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
After a bit they get bored, so they go try something else. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
And that leads them up a food chain, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
and it leads them on | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
to expect something better and better and better. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
By fusing their flavours with traditional British tastes, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
they have created dishes that have become standard local fare. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
If you look at our food culture, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
since time immemorial, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:30 | |
we've begged, borrowed, stolen, used, adapted foods | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
from all over the world. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
Spices from here, you know, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
fruits from there, meats from somewhere else. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
Ideas, techniques and so on. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
The success of these restaurants is remarkable. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
Italians, Chinese and Asian migrants have introduced the British | 0:57:50 | 0:57:54 | |
to the joys of eating out and eating differently. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
The desire to build a better life in a new country | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
ended up changing the way we all dine out. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 |