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When I was a boy there was much talk of hobbies. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
You were supposed to have a hobby, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
just as you would need a career in later life. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
And the default hobby, the one that almost every child, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
including me, dabbled in, was stamp collecting. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Well, this is great. A philatelic grotto. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
You don't see many places like this any more. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
A hobby was something to do on a rainy day, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
and stamp collecting was perfect for that because it brought colour and | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
life into the drabness of an English living room on a damp Sunday. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
The stamp album itself was like a little portable picture gallery, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
or maybe a travel brochure. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
You could imagine yourself living in the places | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
where the stamps came from, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
or at least pretend that you knew someone who lived there | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and liked you enough to send you a letter | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
bearing a stamp from his exotic home. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
There was a patriotic element to it in that Britain had invented stamps, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
but there was also an un-patriotic element - | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
it had to be admitted that so many of the foreign stamps | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
were much more exciting than our own. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Why couldn't we have a pale yellow triangular stamp | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
with a vulture on it, like Mauritania? | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Stamps ensnared us all in a social and commercial web, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
but there's always been more to them than that. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
They've been symbols of our national identity. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
It's an image of royalty, of monarchy, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
and, indeed, of the country. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
And each stamp is an aesthetic event, a work of minuscule art. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
Are they going to be symbolic or pictorial? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
These are all complicated things to fit together into a tiny space. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:20 | |
Stamps provided not just a popular pastime, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
but a rite of passage for millions of children. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
You know, the world when you're eight or nine is a chaotic place, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
but if you can somehow bring it down to scale in an album... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And stamps have always had a knack of transcending their face value. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
What fascinated me was such a little thing having such a huge value. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:48 | |
7,900,000. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
These little sticky price tags not only revolutionised communication, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
they became objects of desire in their own right. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
This bureaucratic expedient, the stamp, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
became imbued with the most profound romance. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Hidden away in a private London vault | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
lie the remnants of a revolution. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Imagine the postal world of early Victorian Britain - | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
no stamps, no envelopes, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
letters were bundles of sheets. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
The charge for sending was based on the number of sheets, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
and it was always expensive, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
because postage was a form of tax. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
The system was slow, corrupt, a mess. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
But in 1835 one man sought to reform the postal service. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
His name was Rowland Hill. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
The population's increased by almost one third in the last 30 years, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
and yet there are no more letters sent through the post | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
than when I was a boy. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
I tell you, sir, as a commercial undertaking, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
the Post Office is a failure... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
This is Hill's journal. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
It's packed with engagements and activity, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
it's exhausting even to look at it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Hill ticked all the boxes for a Victorian do-gooder - | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
workaholic, strong Christian, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
dabbled in both railways and education reform. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
He was into connectivity. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
It's natural that such a man should turn a sceptical eye | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
on a postal system that was completely inadequate for the times. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Firstly, it was expensive. It cost a shilling, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
that's about £5 in today's money, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
to send a letter from Scotland to London. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
The second problem, it was inefficient. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
It was inefficient mainly because the recipient of the letter | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
had to pay, and not the sender. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
It might be a case of the postman knocking on your door and saying, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
"Can I interest you in having this letter that someone's sent you?" | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
A shilling for the letter, indeed! | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
You can tell the post office to take it back to London | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
and I hope it costs THEM a shilling! | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
In 1837 Rowland Hill laid out his proposals in a pamphlet entitled | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
Post Office Reform: Its Importance And Practicability. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
And his solution was a simple one - prepayment at a fixed cost. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
A cost that would be low and uniform, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
a cost that ought, as he put it, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
to neutralise all pecuniary objection. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
The sum he had in mind, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
one penny. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Now, my plan is to sell to the public some kind of a mark | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
which they could put on the letters themselves | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
to show that they've been paid for - | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
a printed cover, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
a small sticky label, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
in fact, a kind of a stamp. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
But what image to use on this adhesive label or stamp? | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Hill wanted to be as refined and aesthetically pleasing as possible, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
because that would be hard to forge. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
On one of his correspondences he said, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
"It ought to be the image of a beautiful young woman." | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Where to find such a person? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Diplomatically, Hill looked no further | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
than the young Queen Victoria. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
The portrait used was from this commemorative medal. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
It was copied onto this die, from which the printing plates | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
were created that made... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
..these. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
The Penny Black, as the first-ever stamp was christened, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
proved an immediate success. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
68 million were printed. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
They were unperforated, so post office clerks | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
had to shear off the sheets with long scissors, like so many tailors. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
These are the only remaining complete sheets of Penny Blacks | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
in the world. And their value is beyond measure. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
This set the template for stamps around the world. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
The size became more or less standard. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
It's beautiful. Why? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Because of its elegance, its simplicity, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and there's a becoming sombre quality because of the blackness. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
It's basically the Queen, at night. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Hill's postal reform swept the country. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
Within a year of its issue the Penny Black had caused | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
the number of letters being sent to double. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
This mass communication compressed Britain and then the world, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
in terms of space and time, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
and it boosted literacy too. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
But for some, stamps were not to be so casually dispatched. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
On the morning of May 1st, 1840, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
the day of the Penny Black's first issue, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
a zoologist called Dr John Edward Gray stepped out of | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
his office here at the British Museum and walked around the corner | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
to the main post office at Saint Martin's Le Grand. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
He bought a block of four Penny Blacks. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
But he didn't put them on an envelope, he put them in his pocket. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
Dr Gray was the first stamp collector. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
And he didn't have to wait long to expand his collection. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Just a week after the Penny Black came the Two Penny Blue, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
to cover heavier postage, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
and a year later the Penny Black gave way to the Penny Red, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
on which a black cancellation mark would show up more easily. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
From the early 1850s stamps took off around the world, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and these laggard countries all wrote their names on their stamps - | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
something the originator, Britain, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
didn't think, and still hasn't thought, necessary. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
As stamps proliferated, their collectors emerged from the shadows, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
or were sometimes discovered in the shadows. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
In February 1863 the opening pages of a new London monthly, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:46 | |
Stamp Collector's Magazine, gave a vivid account of illicit meetings | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
that had begun to take place in the alleyways | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
leading off Birchin Lane in the City of London. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
The article was called Postal Chit Chat. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
It recorded rowdy gatherings every evening | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
of up to 50 people of all ranks of society, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
from office boys to one of Her Majesty's ministers. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
These people carried under their arms what the author calls | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
small books studded with dark patches. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Stamp albums. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
These people were hell-bent on swapping, buying, or selling stamps. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:29 | |
-Have you a yellow Saxon? -I want some Russian! | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Will you exchange a Russian for a Black English? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
I wouldn't give a Russian for 20 English. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
I'll give a Red Prussian for a blue/bronze wicker. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Prices fluctuated dramatically. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
A stamp with a street value of a penny one night | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
might struggle to fetch a ha'penny the next. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
The police were soon involved, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
threatening prosecutions for unlicensed trading. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
And a popular rhyme was soon to be heard | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
echoing through these backstreets. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
When sudden a gruff voice is heard, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
That all the thronging bevy stirred, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
I turned, and fix'd my eyes upon, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
A bobby, crying, "Stamps, move on!" | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
Apparently similar things were going on in Paris | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
in the Tuileries Gardens. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
The scene there was a bit more civilised - | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
evidently people sat under the trees with the albums on their laps. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
But still there was a certain intensity. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
And a new word was coined to describe the mind-set - | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
timbromanie - stamp mania. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
But one French collector, Georges Herpin, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
took exception to this term, timbromanie, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
and decided to coin a more elegant one. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Whether he succeeded is open to debate. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
The rather lumbering Greek hybrid he proposed | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
means "a love of the exemption from tax" - | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
philately. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
And philatelists soon found they no longer needed to gather | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
in London's backstreets. Stamps were now a high street affair. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
Perhaps the biggest concentration of stamp dealers in the world | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
is grouped along both sides of a 50-yard stretch | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
of the Strand in London. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Dealers here hold stocks worth hundreds of thousands of pounds, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and cater for collectors of every age and stage. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
I grew up in the North, but I often came to London as a boy. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
When I walked along the Strand and saw that the famous theatres and | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
hotels shared the streets with so many shops selling | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
cancelled postage, it changed my whole idea about London. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
It made me think it must be a less hard-headed, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
and more whimsical place than I'd thought. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Almost all of those stamp shops have now gone, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
but one remains, the most famous, Stanley Gibbons. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Edward Stanley Gibbons was born in 1840, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
the same year as the Penny Black. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
As a boy he was obsessed with stamps, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
and he was shrewd enough to know it was a common affliction. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
He started out by running a stamp desk from the corner of | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
his father's chemists in Plymouth, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
before moving to London to develop his business | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and eventually opening a premises here on the Strand. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Stanley Gibbons owed his success to two kinds of books. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Firstly, there were his catalogues, which listed all | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
the available stamps which people could buy from Gibbons, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
and then they were his albums, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
which had reserved spaces for particular stamps, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
which, again, people could buy from Gibbons. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
And so the stamp collector was lured in. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
At Gibbons I met the philatelist Hugh Jefferies, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
who's been working in the shop since 1975. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
This is a copy book from Stanley Gibbons in 1864. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
He was a very hard-working man, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
and he is said to have sent 160 letters to his clients and customers | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
every day. He would dictate them to his secretary, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
and once she'd written them all out, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
she would then copy them into this book. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
So this is a few days' correspondence from Stanley Gibbons, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:39 | |
offering stamps to customers all over the world. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Here is the Stanley Gibbons catalogue for May 1869. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
British, colonial and foreign postage stamps - | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
that would seem to cover everything. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Was this his very first catalogue? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
No, it wasn't. He produced his first catalogue, which he did monthly, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
in November 1865. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
It was very much of this style and pattern, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
and a lot of the prices are the same. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Stanley Gibbons produced a price list, and, of course, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
people loved it because they could then assess the value | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
of their own collections by looking at how much | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Stanley Gibbons was going to charge them for their same thing. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Interestingly, he had a price for unused, and a price for used, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
and a price for a dozen. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
-Is it every stamp in the world here? -Yes, it was. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
1869. It was possible to list every stamp in the world | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
in a kind of pamphlet? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Well, we do still list all the stamps in the world. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
And how many stamps are in there? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
-I don't know. Millions. -Many millions. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-And how many stamps are in here? -A few thousand, I would guess. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Stanley Gibbons sold his business in 1890. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
As the in-house magazine, Stanley Gibbons' Stamp Monthly, admitted, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
he then dedicated himself to having a rollicking good time! | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
He went around the world three times. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
He liked to visit the places that had been depicted | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
on the stamps in his albums. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
He was particularly keen on the tropics. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
He also got married. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
Five times. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
He died just over the road in the Savoy Hotel, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
in the arms, it is said, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
of his last mistress. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
During his lifetime Stanley Gibbons had catered | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
for a booming collectors' market. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
His customers ranged from schoolboys, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
keen to fill a Gibbons album, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
to bigger players, with agendas of their own. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
One of the biggest spenders at Stanley Gibbons | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
was a mysterious little man in a Breton cap, who resembled a tramp. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
Both his exact name and his nationality are open to question, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
but let's say he was a European multi-millionaire, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
generally referred to as Count Philipp von Ferrary. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
Ferrary was the illegitimate son of a Genoese duchess. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
She raised him in her Parisian palace, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
and the two remained very close. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Probably realising that her introverted son needed a refuge | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
from the world, the Duchess commended stamp collecting to him. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
But the hobby became a mania | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
and Ferrary restlessly roved the world in search of rarities, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
for which he paid on the spot with gold coins. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Ferrary stored recent purchases in | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
the multi-pockets of a specially adapted long, black coat, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
so he was like a kind of walking stamp album. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
And he was a completist. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Ferrary aspired to own a copy of every stamp ever made, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
and he had the money to do it. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Stamps have been described as emblems of social order, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
but there is an iconoclastic element to stamp collecting. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Ferrary and others were attracted to the postal pratfalls, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
the misprinted or miscoloured stamps - | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
the errors - some of which have gone down in history. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
In 1847 the British colony of Mauritius | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
issued One Penny Red and Two Penny Blue stamps. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
The engraver was short-sighted, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and he wrote "post office" instead of "post paid". | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Only a dozen or so of the particularly famous Blue Mauritius | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
are thought to have survived. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Few enough for each to be worth a fortune, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
but not so rare to preclude one turning up unexpectedly, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
especially in fiction. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
What do you want with us? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
I think you know, so if you just hand them over I'll turn you loose, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and you've nothing further to worry about. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
If you mean the stamps, we haven't got them. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
Seven of them passed through Count Ferrary's hands, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
but they have achieved a mythic life beyond philately. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Look here, my boy. Someone's offered us a Mauritius Penny. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
What are you doing? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
No. You're mad. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Good shot! | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Perhaps the most famous error is the 1855 Swedish Treskilling, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:47 | |
or three shilling yellow, which should have been green. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Only one is known to exist, and it was discovered | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
by a Swedish boy in his grandmother's attic in 1886. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Ferrary acquired it eight years later. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
There was the equally singular One Cent Magenta, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
printed in British Guyana as part of an emergency issue in 1856, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
and again, unearthed by a schoolboy, and later purchased by Ferrary. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
It features a ghostly drawing of a ship, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
contributed spontaneously by the printer | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and not authorised by the postmaster. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
I will start the bidding at 4,500,000. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
At 6,500,000. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
In 2014 the One Cent Magenta sold at auction for a record figure. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
On the telephone then at 7,900,000. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
7,900,000. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Thank all you very much. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
With the premium, the stamp has just sold | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
for approximately 9.5 million. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
The buyer has requested to be anonymous. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Count Ferrary paid what were | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
outrageous sums at the time for these rarities. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
And even though he was a shambling maverick in person, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
his money helped elevate the social status of stamp collecting. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
At the start of the 20th century | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
there were 34 philatelic societies in Britain, all very pukka. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
But the oldest and most distinguished | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
was the Royal Philatelic Society. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Its most famous member, and its royal patron, was George V, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
whose official biographer remarked, unofficially, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
that for much of his early life George did little more than | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
"shoot game and stick stamps in albums." | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
The King's collection filled 328 red leather albums. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
In 1904 he paid £1,400 for one of the fabled Blue Mauritius stamps. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
A few days later one of his secretaries asked, had he heard? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Some damned fool had paid £1,400 for a single stamp. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
"Yes," the King replied, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
"I was that damned fool!" | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
The King devoted three afternoons a week to his hobby, which was, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
perhaps, his way of keeping a beady eye on his Empire. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
But in 1924 the King was invited to approve a new kind of stamp, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
a special stamp that would be sold for a limited time only - | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
a commemorative stamp. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
The King was wary of the whole notion of commemorative stamps. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
He thought they were vulgar, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
the kind of thing that foreigners went in for. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Indeed, the first commemorative stamp had been produced in Peru, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
in 1871, celebrating 20 years since the building | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
of the first Peruvian railway. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
The new and unprecedented British commemorative stamp | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
had been mooted by the General Post Office to mark the opening of | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
the British Empire Exhibition at Wembley in April 1924. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Given the soaring national debt, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
and signs of agitation amongst the peoples of the Empire, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
it was vital that the exhibition was a success, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
so the King was persuaded to accept the idea of a philatelic promotion, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
but he insisted it had to be done properly. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
Artists were invited to submit designs, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
and the GPO picked a modernist one | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
by the influential sculptor and typographer Eric Gill. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
But, again, the King took fright. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
The King was no aesthete - | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
he'd once burst out laughing at an exhibition of French Impressionism - | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
and he was probably wary of Gill. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
Some time before, Gill had produced a design for | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
the Great Seal Of The Realm. It showed the king astride a horse, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
but the design was rejected when somebody pointed out | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
that the horse appeared to be urinating. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Gill was given the royal brush-off for a second time, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
and the King chose a more traditional image by Harold Nelson, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
featuring a roaring lion. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
A British lion, of course. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
It was a bit like buying the T-shirt. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
By acquiring the stamp you proved you'd been to the Exhibition, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
because the stamp was only available on the Exhibition site, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
either from vending machines or from Wembley Post Office | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
where, on June 30th, in a formal ceremony, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
the Prince of Wales bought the five millionth one. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
Over six months more than 17 million people visited the Exhibition, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
where, like the King, they could tour a Mughal Palace, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
an African fort, and a Buddhist temple, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
or take a ride on a miniature train. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
All highly exotic and diverse, yet basically British. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
And if you hadn't caught sight of the real Prince of Wales, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
you could pop along to the Canadian Pavilion | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
and see his effigy carved in butter. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Looking around here now there's hardly anything left | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
of the whole jamboree. The last remnants of the old Empire Stadium, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
the Twin Towers, went in 2003. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
And that was the Palace Of Industry. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
But I've heard that one item was salvaged from the debris, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
by way of a memorial. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
And it's this, a lion's head corbel. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
It's all that remains of the British Empire Exhibition, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
except for the stamp, of course, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and one in pristine condition will set you back about a tenner today. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
The Empire Exhibition has long faded into history, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
but its commemorative stamp left an enduring legacy. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
It had sold very well, with 13 million snapped up. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
And the success of the Exhibition suggested that stamps | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
could function very well as miniature billboards. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
So why not issue another? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
In 1935 the General Post Office called on the services | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
of Barnett Freedman, an eminent artist and lithographer of the day, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
to produce a stamp for George V's Silver Jubilee. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Now, are there any particular conditions | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
in the designing of the stamp? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
Yes, you must keep to the head of the King | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
which appears on present stamps. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
-Otherwise I have a free hand? -Absolutely. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
A documentary, scored by Benjamin Britten, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
followed Freedman as he worked up his design, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
using a method called photogravure, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
which gave an almost three-dimensional texture. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
This one goes to the printers. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
This machine is producing over half a million Jubilee stamps an hour. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:56 | |
Freedman's Jubilee stamp was stylish and modern, but subtly so, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
which is, perhaps, why it got past the King. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
In the post-war years there seemed to be a great deal to commemorate, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
but the young stamp collector might not have been looking forward | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
to the Olympic Games, the Festival of Britain, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
or even the coronation of a new Queen | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
so much as the accompanying stamps. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Commemorative issues now provided regular treats - | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
bigger and more colourful stamps to enliven monotonous albums. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
By the early 1960s commemoratives had become a fixture. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
More than 20 had been issued since the Wembley Exhibition, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
but the chosen subjects had become increasingly uninspiring. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
With all due respect to the European Postal And Telecommunications | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Conference at Torquay, I doubt it set pulses racing, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
even among the attendees. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
And as for another commemorated event, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
the ninth World Scout Jubilee Jamboree, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
held over 12 days at Sutton Park, Birmingham, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
that was... | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
well, a wash-out. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
Even the stamp designers themselves were sceptical | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
about some of the commissions. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
I first got into it by... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
through an invitation | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
for a rather depressing subject, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
it was called National Productivity Year, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
which I felt was a bit Stalinist. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
I think that was one of the things that were wrong with stamps | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
at the time, that they had to be about a passing event, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
they couldn't be simply about something | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
because it was interesting. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
You designed a very stylish stamp for it, even so. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
I'd done a few stamps already and found out that it's extremely | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
difficult, on the tiny amount of space you've got on a stamp, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
to fit in several elements that fight each other, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
and so the Queen's head, particularly in those days | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
when it was a three-quarter view photograph, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
it was extremely difficult to make it sit well alongside another image. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:11 | |
In January 1965 David Gentleman wrote to the new Postmaster General, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:17 | |
Tony Benn, proposing, if not treason, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
then philatelic regicide. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
"I'm convinced that the main single drawback to the realisation | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
"of unified modern designs is the monarch's head. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
"Not merely the unsatisfactory angle of the present photograph, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
"but the traditional inclusion of the head at all." | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
I thought I'd said too much, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
and then I had a phone call from him saying, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
"Come and meet me at Post Office headquarters." | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Wednesday, March 10th, 1965. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
This is the day I'm seeing the Queen about the new stamps. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
David Gentleman came to breakfast again this morning at my request. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
He brought along the most beautiful designs | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
for Battle of Britain stamps made out of silhouettes | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
of RAF and Luftwaffe planes in combat. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
They were very simple, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
flat silhouettes of Spitfires, Hurricanes, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
some German planes flying about in the sky. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
They really looked lovely. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Armed with Gentleman's designs and a carefully-prepared speech, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Tony Benn took off for the Palace. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
The Queen beckoned me to sit down, and I started. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
On commemoratives, I said, we had broadened the criteria | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
to many subjects that had previously been excluded. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
This raised the whole question of the use of the head on the stamps. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
The Queen frowned, and smiled. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
She indicated that she had never had an opportunity to look at | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
any of these new stamps and would be interested if she could. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
And he said, "I've got some here in my bag." | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
It's like Blue Peter, here are some I made earlier! | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
And so I spread out on the floor 12 huge design models | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
of the stamps, provided by David Gentleman, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
bearing the words "Great Britain", and no royal head on them. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Benn thought that the Queen liked them. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
That wasn't quite correct, was it? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
He told me that she'd been interested, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
but that by the time he got back to his own office | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
the message had come, via the Prime Minister, that the head was to stay. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
-So the battle was lost. -The battle was lost. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
The Queen's had had to stay on stamps, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
and here it is on The Battle Of Britains, as small as it could go. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
But, with a further commission the following year, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
David Gentleman challenged another of the conventions | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
governing commemorative stamps, namely the one decreeing | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
that no living person apart from a member of the Royal family | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
could be featured on one. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
The issue of fourpenny stamps | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
to mark England's victory in the World Cup | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
brought early morning queues at post offices all over the country. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
The first day's supply of about 1.5 million were going like hot cakes | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
very soon after opening time. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
The reason is that nearly everybody believes the stamps will be | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
worth a lot when the collectors really get busy. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Here are some commemoratives you did for the 1966 World Cup. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
I don't see Bobby Moore or Geoff Hurst. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
I don't recognise these people, and that's because | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
you weren't allowed to depict a living person on a stamp, I think? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
In those days, it might have been Stanley Matthews, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
I'm sure that they wouldn't have tolerated the idea | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
of a known footballer. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I got a photographer to photograph two football friends | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
to, in my mind, epitomise the nature of the game. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
-And that stamp is based on those photographs. -It is. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
So this really is the first example of a living person | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
specifically depicted on a stamp? | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-That broke the rule, didn't it? -It did. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
But they're not personalities. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
They are there as anonymous footballers. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Which is rather commendable, because a stamp is basically | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
a democratic medium. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
I wonder if they know that they're on a stamp? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
I think they found out at the time. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Well, I hope they've got a few stuck in their albums! | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
That would be great, wouldn't it, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
-to point to a stamp and say, "That's me"? -That's me. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
The Queen's head remained an issue. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
In three-quarter profile it seemed to obtrude from the stamps. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
A consensus emerged amongst designers that a new image | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
of the Queen was needed to be used on all stamps, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
primarily on the standard ones, known as definitives, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
but also on commemoratives. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
So Tony Benn announced a competition to design a new, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
more muted royal profile. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Let's have a look at it. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:54 | |
And at the British Postal Museum in London I've been granted | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
a private audience with Her Majesty. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
Well, this is the work of Arnold Machin, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
and Machin was a sculptor, so the work that he did | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
was in the form of a plaster cast, or bas relief. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
Apparently Machin spent a whole year doing nothing but working on this. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
Why a whole year? What was he doing all that time? | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Well, it may look a simple image, but it is, in fact, quite complex. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
When he began with his sketches, most of them were rather elaborate, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
so he spent the year simplifying things, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
and then the Stamp Advisory Committee suggested that he change | 0:35:29 | 0:35:34 | |
the tiara to a diadem, as you see here. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
And this diadem looks familiar to me. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
That, in fact, is the diadem that is worn by Queen Victoria | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
as seen on the Penny Black. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
There was an attempt to go back to the Penny Black, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
especially with the Queen herself. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
The Queen was quite hands on about how exactly the image should end up? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
She was obviously interested in her own image, as it appeared on stamps, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
and with the photographs that were taken, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
she annotated all 60 or 70 of them. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Some of them she marked as being "good", some just "yes". | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
So quite restrained annotations. She didn't write "terrible"? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
She didn't write "terrible", but she did write "no" in capital letters. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
And then chose a particular colour, a dark olive sepia brown, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
deliberately to imitate the Penny Black | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
on the first class letter rate. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
And here is that colour, of the first Machin. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
1967 to the present day. Why has it endured so well? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, the image is timeless, it's a classic. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
The Queen doesn't consider that a portrait of herself, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
it's an image of royalty, of monarchy, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
and, indeed, of the country. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
The fact that we're still using Machin's definitive | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
shows just how successful this rebranding was. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
It, and many classy issues designed by the likes of David Gentleman, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
propelled stamp collecting to a peak of popularity. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
I had merely dabbled in stamps back then. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
A more committed collector of the late '60s and early '70s | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
was the author Simon Garfield. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
He suggested we meet at his old, well, stamping ground, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
Stanley Gibbons. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
I used to come here a lot when I was, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
you know, short trousers in the '60s. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
And it was a kind of... | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
joyful voyage on a Saturday afternoon. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
I began at Trafalgar Square Post Office, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
for the new issues, which you just got over the counter at face value, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
and then working your way along the Strand. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
But, you know, Gibbons, I suppose, was sort of | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
the ultimate, and the Mecca. It was bustling at that point. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
Really, sort of, a kind of heaving place. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Lots of kids like me. I remember they used to call me Sir, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
which, you know, I used to call my teacher Sir, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
but to be called Sir when you walked into a shop, age of eight... | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Well, they obviously sort of looked me up and down, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
in my short trousers, and said, "Well, actually, what he's after is | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
"one of these," which is one of these, sort of, selection packs. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
You would fill a lot of album space with this. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
You would never find anything of any great worth. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
What's the number one psychological explanation for stamp collecting? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
I think, for me, when I was a kid, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
it was trying to put some order on the world. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
You know, the world when you're eight or nine is a chaotic place, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
but if you can somehow bring it down to scale in an album... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
And also the idea of, sort of, completing something, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
collecting. The idea of a quest is kind of very good. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
But also things that other people don't have, you know. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
The idea of having the same collection as everybody else | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
in the world is just not a very interesting thing. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
You want to specialise, and the things I specialised in were errors, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Great British errors. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
The one I think I remember I saw first | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
was the Post Office Tower stamp. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Well, two new stamps have been issued, which we've put, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
of course, here into our stamp album. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
And they're to commemorate the opening of the Post Office Tower | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
in London. The threepenny is a most unusual shape | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
because it's vertical, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
and shows the tower springing up above some old Georgian houses. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
They had made, you know, 50 million of the stamps, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
but 30 of them, I remember, had missing olive green, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and the olive-green was the Post Office Tower itself. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Clearly, as it was going through the printing machine, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
the olive-green had run out. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Here is further evidence of the stamp collecting craze | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
of your boyhood, the early '70s. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
Collect, "a great new stamp collecting game, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
"all the excitement of the stamp collecting world." | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
I wouldn't hesitate to say a great new stamp collecting game... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Perhaps the only stamp collecting game, is probably | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
-the other way of looking at it. -You played this? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
I did, and I like to think that this was me - | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
very happy with wonderful stamps. This part of it is clearly a lie. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
There were three girls playing | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
and that never happened in the history of the world. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Do you think the fact that somebody bothered | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
to make a board game about stamp collecting in 1972 | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
means that that was the very peak of the hobby? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I got the feeling, though, that sort of mid '70s | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
it was sort of trailing away, but that was perhaps just me. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
That was when I discovered, you know, punk. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
In 1977 the most memorable image of the Queen wasn't on a stamp. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
It was what you might call a punk definitive. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
# God save the Queen | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
# The fascist regime | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
# We love our Queen... # | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
As emblems of order, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
stamps may have been losing their appeal to the anarchic young, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
but they were being marketed heavily towards older collectors. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
Portfolios of rare and valuable stamps were now offered | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
as a hedge against the rising inflation of the late '70s. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
A sort of stamp bubble ensued. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
This is the last call. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Sold to Mr Irwin Weinberg at 280,000. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
We consider it an exceptional buy. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
-Why? -Well, it is of course the rarest stamp in the world. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
It's the first time in 40 years it has come up. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Stamps have, in fact, over the years, performed consistently well. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
People are looking for a secure home for their money | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
and they have many markets to choose from. Stamps, gold, diamonds... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
350, dreihundertfunfzig. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
375? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Any more for 375? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
SHE SPEAKS GERMAN | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
But in just one minute, it was over. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
Going at 70,000. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Well, it's the smallest and lightest form of portable security | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
there is in the world. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
1,400. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
SHE SPEAKS GERMAN | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
1,400. 1,500 I'm bid.... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Life Magazine stated that it's undoubtedly the most valuable | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
object in the world by weight and size. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
I can open this stamp, Lot 374, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
for 325,000. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
It's absolutely wonderful. Didn't think I would ever see it. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
I have a bid on the right at 850,000. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Last call. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Sold. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
That particular bubble burst, as they all do. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
But the economic uncertainty and low interest rates | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
of recent years have benefited the high-end stamp market. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Phenomenal prices have been achieved. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
I've come to Geneva | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
to visit one of the leading philatelic auction houses. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
I'll be meeting a man who has masterminded many record-breaking sales. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
Five, six, seven... | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
David Feldman is, you might say, a born dealer. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
At the age of eight he set up an exchange scheme | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
with classmates in his hometown of Dublin, and at 11 | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
he started a mail order business called The Shamrock Stamp Club. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
HE SPEAKS FRENCH | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
12,000. At 12,000. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Any more at 12,000? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Lot number six at 4,800. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
HE REPEATS IN GERMAN | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
At 4,800, going, going and... | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
BANGS GAVEL | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
Almost all of my friends were collecting stamps. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
I saw that there was a need perhaps for someone to exchange stamps | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
between them, or bring new stamps. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
With the club we had little books which you called | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
stamps-on-approval books, which I had handmade myself. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
We would send you a book and you could buy those stamps | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
and you would have a discount, so you could... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
you yourself could even offer them to friends and make, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
if you want, a commission. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
So it was like pushing other people, your customers even, maybe to take, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
they would take at a discount or sell to friends. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
So you're like a kind of drug dealer, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
making them addicted to stamps. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
Well, I wouldn't want to make that comparison, but in a sense, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
being able to have more money to buy better ones, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
let's say more rare ones, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
more expensive ones, and then show them to my friends. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
That grew and then I became enveloped in that business. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
I became immersed. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
Lot 32 at 10,000 now. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
10, 11 and 12 for me. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
And 13, 14... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
15. 16. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
It's been explained to me that these gentlemen are postal historians. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:43 | |
They are interested in the use of the stamp, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
the accumulating postal value of one or more stamps - | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
that's the franking - or perhaps in the route that a letter took. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
A letter might have been diverted because of a war | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
and that will be denoted by the postmark. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
Or they're interested in the way that the stamp is cancelled. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
An eccentric cancellation might go for a lot of money. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
So it's more than just the stamp, per se. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
Against the net now, at 24. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
In the room at 24. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
HE REPEATS IN GERMAN | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
And... | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
Gone. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:18 | |
Where does the balance now lie for you between the appeal of the stamps | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
and the appeal of the money? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
Well, I think if you're in the business, you have to be... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
Basically, presumably you have to be a businessman. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
What fascinated me was the item, the value, the adventure, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
the excitement and the continually changing by buying and selling. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
Since Count Ferrary acquired the Treskilling Yellow | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
for £400 in 1894, the legendary stamp changed hands | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
ten times before David Feldman put it up for auction | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
just over a century later. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
The most valuable stamp in the world has been sold at auction | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
in Switzerland for £1,364,000. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
The Swedish dealer who bought the Treskilling Yellow | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
for an unnamed private client said it was a bargain. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
The stamp, issued in Sweden 140 years ago, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
is a unique misprint which should've been green | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
but was coloured yellow by mistake. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
Now, I've always said if you want to really make a good investment | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
in stamps, if you're thinking of it in that way, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
the only sensible way is you should invest in what others collect | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
because then there is the real collecting market and interest. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
So the only real way to know that is that you either | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
have the knowledge yourself of the collector, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
or you go and get the advice of a professional | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
who has a collecting clientele and can tell you that this is | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
very interesting for collectors, and presumably will continue | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
to grow with collectors, and that should be a good investment, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
but not a bubble investment that suddenly rises and falls. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
So now you need a more subtle understanding of what the collectors want. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
I think you always did if you want to understand the collecting world | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
and you wanted to be successful let's say long-term. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
Short-term, you might be able to get in and get out to make a quick | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
profit, as you say, but that was not related to the collecting world. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
David Feldman's auction house near Lake Geneva | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
is just a short boat trip from where Count Philipp von Ferrary | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
died of a heart attack in 1917. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
He'd just been buying some more stamps. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
What drove his obsession? | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
I'd like to think it was something to do with the beauty of stamps, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
a quality that consistently struck me while watching the Feldman auctions. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
But Ferrary also took stamp collecting into the big money league | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
and David Feldman advises anyone who wants to invest in stamps | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
to study the collectors. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
In order to observe them in their natural habitat, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
I'm going to have to exchange Geneva for Croydon. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
Specifically the East Croydon United Reformed Church | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
and a meeting of the local Philatelic Society. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to tonight's meeting. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
This evening we'll be entertained by our own members, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
so we can look forward to a wide variety | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
and plenty of material to enjoy. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Now, I've selected just 15 sheets | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
and I've tried to select some rather sexy sheets, if you like. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:33 | |
I mean, philatelically sexy, of course. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
I didn't have any firm notion of how a modern stamp club operated | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
and I admit that I was slightly thrown. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
I'd expected to see more actual stamp albums on display. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
And if you can't see the overprint through the back of the stamp, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
it's a forgery. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
-I'll have a custard cream. -Yes, likewise. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Apparently, if we'd come to this stamp club 30 years ago, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
there would've been plenty of people with stamp albums | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
and the business of the club would have been one person | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
showing another person their stamps in their album. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
But now the stamps have broken free of the albums because it's easier | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
to display them and easier to talk about them if they're mounted, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
like this, on what are called frames. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
And the idea is that the members of the club give a show and tell, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
like a kind of school assembly, explaining about their collection, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
why it's of interest | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
and perhaps hinting at how much it's worth as well. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
There's one thing you might not know, Andrew. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
It's a funny little quote. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
"A postage stamp is a dirty piece of paper | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
"that somebody else has spat on." | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
-And it's so true. -Yes. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
Or it was, but now a lot of them are self adhesive, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
so that blows that one out of the water! | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
I think you've put me off starting a collection. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
Now, Pauline, you collect stamps showing cats... | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
-I do. -..from all around the world. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:09 | |
You are a rare breed yourself, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
because you are a female philatelist. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
-Here, we have got about 20-odd men and three women. -Yes, yes. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
What do you think, is the appeal of a stamp, to a man in particular? | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
It's the hunter-gatherer, got to collect. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
So if there is one of something and there's another one out there, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
you want it. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
But you have a glaring example of just that here. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
-I do, yes. -From this issue of cat stamps, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
issued by the island of Stroma, off Scotland. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
-Yes, yes. -A rare example of a local issue of a stamp. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
-Yes. -One's missing. Why is it missing? | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
The chances of me finding it are virtually nil. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
-But that stamp does exist? -It must do. -It's out there. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
It must do. It will be out there. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
Well, are you not tormented by the thought of filling in | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
-that black hole there? -Erm... No. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
I am, and it's not my collection! | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
A lot of stamp collectors are very secretive. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
-Male ones? -Yes, yes. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
When I worked at Stanley Gibbons, I quite often had a client, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:14 | |
who would be male, say, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
"Please don't tell the wife what I've spent," | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
or, "If I'm not in, please don't leave a message." | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
If this club is typical | 0:51:28 | 0:51:29 | |
then the standard philatelist is a person of a certain age, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
but inducements to the young, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
or at least new collector, continue to be offered. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
They take the form of first-day covers, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
specially-designed envelopes bearing new stamps | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
postmarked on their first day of issue. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
In my boyhood, these were considered the most exciting things | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
to come out of a post office, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
with the possible exception of a postal order. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
But do people still buy first-day covers? | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
I've come to the main post office at Trafalgar Square | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
on the morning of a new issue. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
The issue is called Masters Of Music, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
which, in practice, means Pink Floyd. A range of stamps | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
commemorating the 50th anniversary of the formation of the group, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
I think. I have no interest whatsoever in Pink Floyd, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
but I should imagine that's true | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
of anyone who comes here to buy the stamps. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
If anyone does come, because, so far, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
I'm the only one in the queue. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
-Excuse me? -Hi. -Are you here for the Pink Floyd stamps? | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
-Yeah. -Are you a stamp collector? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
-No, I'm a Pink Floyd fan from Japan. -Oh. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Excuse me? Are you here for the Pink Floyd stamps? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
Are you here for the Pink Floyd stamps, sir? | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
Can I ask if you are here to buy some Pink Floyd special issue stamps? | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
No? Pink Floyd special issue? | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
Pink Floyd stamps? | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
No, they're just regular punters. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
# Money | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
# It's a gas | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
# Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash... # | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
So the old first-day cover trick seems to have lost some of its allure. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
And even the sending of ordinary letters | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
with ordinary stamps is in decline because of e-mail. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
Britain's average daily mailbag peaked in 2005, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
at 80 million letters. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
It has been contracting sharply ever since. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
So, what is the future of stamp collecting? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
For the past 20 years, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
this woman has been trying to ensure it has one. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
Erene Grieve visits schools to promote philately, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
and she has helped to establish numerous stamp clubs, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
some of which have waiting lists. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
When I was your age, you saw an advert and it said, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
"Send for a sack of stamps for ten shillings." | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
We opened up the sack, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:06 | |
emptied them out on the table and, believe it or not, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
there were hundreds of stamps in there, from all over the world. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Places I'd never heard of. There was the world on our table. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
Zanzibar, Mozambique, Madagascar, | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
Turks and Caicos Islands, Trinidad and Tobago. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Places I'd never heard of and things on there I'd never seen, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
cos, of course, we didn't have what you've got today | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
that shows you a window on the world. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
Put your hand up if you've got a television. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
Oh, we didn't have television when I was your age. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
Put your hand up if you've ever been abroad to another country. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
'I think adults have stopped introducing children to stamps,' | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
getting them interested. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
I think, when a child starts looking at a stamp, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
looking at what's on a stamp, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
and understanding that that foreign word | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
or those squiggly signs actually refer to a country | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and a currency, and the pictures on it refer to something | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
that's happening round the world, there is a magic to it, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
and it's rather hard to put one's finger on it. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
That is a very famous stamp. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
You see, somebody, one or two people, knew it. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
-Why do you think it's famous? -Cos it was the first stamp. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Absolutely right. It was the very first stamp. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
Things seemed to change a lot in the '70s. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
Mums started going out to work more. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
I think perhaps parents don't have as much time now | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
to follow that sort of hobby with their child. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Is there any evidence that it is being taken up | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
by the latest generation? | 0:55:34 | 0:55:35 | |
It tends to be where you've got somebody in the family, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
usually a grandparent, who is encouraging their grandchild. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
Or where a school has set up a stamp club, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
that really seems to make a big difference. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
I just love the reaction from the children. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
A little girl in one of the schools announced that it had been | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
the best day of her life. I mean, how can you better that? | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Yeah, let's hope she goes on and acquires a Blue Mauritius in 30 years' time. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
Will it ever go back to being like it was in the '50s, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
-with almost every child doing it? -The best prospect, for me, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
would be that more stamp collectors would come forward | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
to help run stamp clubs in schools, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
cos I think that is where we have the right atmosphere | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
for stamp collecting, really. I think that's the best place. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
This one is... You've got '06 on it. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
It's from France. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
And that would be 1906. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
So, that is 110 years old. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
I've been in top public schools, I've been into inner-city schools, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
I've been to sink schools, village schools, tiny schools, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
enormous schools, but the reaction is always the same. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:44 | |
Now, explain that. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:45 | |
-Well, it's down to the mystique of the postage stamp. -Yes. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
I've learned something of that mystique, I think, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
having communed with the Penny Black in the dark, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
seen the way that early stamp collectors disturbed the peace | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
in the back streets of London, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
and learned of Count Ferrary's obsession, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
a word that might also be applied to the philately of King George V. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
The battles fought over commemorative stamps | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
and the profile of the Queen tell us something about | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
the importance of stamps to our national identity. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
I've seen stamps go under the hammer for a lot of money, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
and heard the proud speeches of amateur collectors, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
of which there are plenty left. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
Even if it's no longer the rainy day fallback of almost every child, | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
stamp collecting remains a popular hobby, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
but its focus will become increasingly retrospective. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
As postage gives way to electronic communication, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
so the romance of philately | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
will be compounded by the romance of nostalgia. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
And when we do get a letter, | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
there's very often an impostor in the top right-hand corner. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:54 | |
Rather than this pallid frank, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
who wouldn't prefer to get a letter with a stamp on it? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
I know I would. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
# I've got one from Spain and two from Japan | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
# I've got a couple from Israel and Azerbaijan | 0:58:17 | 0:58:21 | |
# I've got a plenty from Poland but none from Sudan | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
# Or from Fiji or Uzbekistan | 0:58:24 | 0:58:29 | |
# Did you know I can't believe I'm telling everyone that I know | 0:58:29 | 0:58:34 | |
# That every stamp in my collection is a place we could go. # | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 |