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MUSIC: TRUMPET SOLO

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The Queen Mary is the oldest surviving Transatlantic liner,

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one of the great ships that plied the ocean routes at high speed,

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in old world luxury and in all weathers.

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A little bit of England floating across the Atlantic.

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She now rests in gentle retirement in the warm sunshine of Long Beach, California

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as a hotel and tourist attraction.

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The Queen Mary is a reminder of the post-war decades when national pride and prestige were at stake

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as countries competed to build the most magnificent ships on the great ocean routes.

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Come on in, come on in.

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This was the social and shopping area for the first class passengers.

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And only for... the first class passengers.

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Before the jet age, liners carried passengers and goods en masse across the oceans from A to B.

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They linked the world, essentially, and they made the modern world possible.

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The Americans, with the steamship, United States had the fastest.

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The Dutch had the elegant, Rotterdam,

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the Italians the sleek Michelangelo

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and the French had the France as their supreme symbol of national culture and cuisine.

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Great ships that, like the Queen Mary, were envied, admired and even loved.

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The coming of the jet liner and the '60s assault on class and privilege

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should have swept this world away, but somehow it clung on.

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Today, more people than ever travel on big ships, ships that have a modern take on glamour and romance.

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The beauty of the ships is that they are technological masterpieces.

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Each has a character and personality of their own

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and they become much loved by the people who travel in them.

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And one great liner still travels the North Atlantic.

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Against the odds, the Queen Mary 2 carries on in the grand tradition of the long gone liners of old.

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# Gonna take a sentimental journey Gonna... #

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As peace dawned after the Second World War, Britain alone was ready

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to reopen the great sea route between the old and new worlds,

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firm in the belief that pre-war elegance and glamour

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could be seamlessly welded to a post-war world.

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MUSIC: FANFARE PLAYS

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ARCHIVE: On July 29th, the Mary left Southampton on a two day trial in the Channel.

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From Captain C G Illingworth downwards, to a crew of 1260,

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everybody was busy getting used to their jobs on the reconverted liner.

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BBC cameras on board recorded these typical scenes.

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Soon, everything was going on much as it did in the pre-war days,

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and as it will on many Atlantic crossing in the future.

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At the end of the Second World War, Cunard's Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth practically had the

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Atlantic to themselves,

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they were the last of the large, prestigious liners

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to have survived intact from the 1930s with their original owners.

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With the Elizabeth and the Mary, the Cunard Line had both the largest and fastest liners afloat.

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And with their associations with royalty, they were an ad-man's dream.

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For a few short years, these ships maintained the illusion that Britain still ruled the waves.

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The Queen Mary had a real aura,

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there was a whole generation of people who absolutely adored her.

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She had that glorious rich timber interior.

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Slightly old-fashioned, when it was put in.

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It appealed to the class of people she was built to attract.

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I do have a strong affection for the Queen Mary, the first Queen Mary,

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which of course is now in Long Beach

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as a floating hotel, convention centre and all the rest of it.

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And when you go there, you see this huge black hull

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with literally millions of rivets.

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She wasn't welded, she was riveted,

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and these three, huge Cunard red funnels.

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And, you go on board and it is like stepping back

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into the 1930s and 1940s when she was in her heyday,

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when she was the fastest passenger ship in the world.

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Are we ready, guys? Very good, this way please.

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This is the behind-the-scenes, yes.

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If you get one of the original cabins if you stay at the hotel,

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again you can imagine yourself in the 1930s.

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The taps, tap for salt water as well as fresh water.

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A myriad of taps on this huge bath, rather than just a shower.

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It is a wonderful experience.

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FLUSHING

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Also, in the bathrooms at that time, the towel racks where electrically heated.

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When you stepped out of the tub,

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you would have a nice, warm towel to wrap yourself in.

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During the war, the United States had to rely on the great Cunard

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liners to move her army across the Atlantic for the D-Day landings.

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Her war record is phenomenal.

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In July of 1943,

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she carried 16,683 human beings.

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That still stands as the largest number of human beings ever

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transported on one vessel in the history of the world.

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In the growing chill of the Cold War, America wanted her own independent means of moving armies.

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A ship that, like the two Queens could transport whole divisions,

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so fast that no submarine could threaten her.

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In 1952, she launched the largest American passenger ship ever built.

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The SS United States.

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A passenger liner that could be converted within 18 hours to work as a troopship.

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Winston Churchill said that the Cunard Queens during the war

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collectively shortened the war by nearly a year

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because of their huge transport potential.

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And certainly after the war, the Americans seized on this

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and decided they had to have a ship of their own.

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So funds were appropriated and directed to the United States Lines

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to build a new troopship come liner which was the SS United States.

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DANCE MUSIC PLAYS

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In true American tradition, this baby was fast and a real gas guzzler.

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On her maiden voyage, she smashed the Atlantic record known as the Blue Riband, taking 10 hours off

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the Queen Mary's time and set a record for a passenger liner which remains unchallenged to this day.

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The main attraction of the United States was her speed.

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The accommodation was very modern, very tastefully decorated,

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but in comparison to the Queens and

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the other great ships of state, it was rather austere.

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As a small boy, naval architect, Stephen Payne was captured on home

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cine film when the mighty United States sailed into Southampton.

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On sea trials, it's rumoured that that ship achieved some 45 knots.

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When you are equate knots to mph, it is over 50 mph.

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I always enjoy saying to my American friends that had that ship been sailing down

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an American highway in the 1950s, she would've got a speeding ticket!

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Designed for military action, she was fitted with aircraft-carrier engines and fire-resistant asbestos

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to replace the opulent panelling of the Cunard Queens.

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The only wood onboard the United States was said to be the piano and the butcher's block.

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What the United States had in terms of speed,

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I'm afraid she didn't match

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the Queen Mary in terms of luxury.

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BELL RINGS

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Luxury was what the Queen Mary was about and in first class, it was about as good as it gets.

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ARCHIVE: 150 chefs cooking for critical, hungry mouths.

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Fare-paying passengers eating their money's worth all the way,

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taking five days off and putting 14lbs on.

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

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Hope I see you in good health tonight and I hope good appetite?

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I must congratulate you gentlemen on your choice of ladies.

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REFINED LAUGHTER

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ARCHIVE: Now, what is it like aboard?

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Like the society she was built for, the Queen Mary is rigidly divided by class.

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First class, cabin class and tourist.

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Only money makes it possible to rise from one class to another.

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That is the segregation gate, madam.

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I don't think you can mix

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Claridges and the Regent Palace can you really? I suppose you can...

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But if you are in the Regent Palace, you are in the Regent Palace, if you are in Claridges, it's Claridges!

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ARCHIVE: If you want to travel first class, you can have a small cabin with no porthole for £178.

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But a suite for two people is over £1,000 one way!

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If you don't feel up to the first class, there is the cabin class at the rear of the ship,

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gently vibrating over the propeller shafts.

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This costs £120 or so.

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Squeezed up in the bows there is room for 560 tourist passengers.

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# It was sad when the great ship went down to the bottom of the husbands and wives, children... #

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ARCHIVE: There, you can get a cabin for just under £100,

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but you'll will probably have to share for five days.

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# Oh, it was sad, it was sad... #

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RATTLING OF COCKTAIL MIXERS

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Life in the first class can be a round of cocktail parties beginning with the captain's reception.

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Good evening Mrs Keegan, welcome, nice to see you.

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Captain Simmons, Mrs Keegan.

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-How do you do?

-Good evening, sir. How do you do? Would you like to both come through...

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I believe basically there are three different kinds of people, yes.

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You take a menu to a first class passenger, he knows exactly what he wants. He can pick out...

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things and doesn't require much explanation of the dishes.

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But if you show it to a great majority of the tourist passengers,

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you show them the menu and they say, what is this?

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If it is in French, they don't understand the menu properly.

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Which is quite in order, everybody is happy to serve them.

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But you do find they are definitely different.

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ARCHIVE: Up in the first class, you can eat when you like, what you like

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and as much as you like.

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-A Waldorf salad...

-And I'll have the artichokes.

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-I think I'll have the ribs of beef.

-Ribs of beef.

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Very well done, you know.

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-Well done.

-Cremated?

-Yes.

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You couldn't even fly across the Atlantic in those days, so you had the cream

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of the world's traffic, if you like,

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the European, American, the British traffic travelling.

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You had all the government officials, actors, actresses, the chairmen of the big companies,

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both American, European and even the Russians used to travel with us in the main suites.

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I don't think you would have such a gathering anywhere in the world as you did in those days.

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It used to be terribly chic and fun,

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I am snobby enough to like it.

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Everyone dressed for dinner.

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Nowadays people come down in the most extraordinary clothes.

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Every night looks like a fancy dress party and...

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it used to be such fun. It was chic.

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Ladies, gentlemen, boys and girls,

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enter!

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You have just entered...

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one of the most beautiful rooms

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on board this ship.

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She is three decks high.

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This room was filled with overstuffed chairs and couches.

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During the day, passengers would come into this room to socialise with other passengers

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or just listen to music.

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Now, at that time, dinner was never, ever served in this room,

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but promptly at 4:00pm each day, tea was served.

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After the tea was served, they would play games such as...bingo.

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ARCHIVE: Eyes down, look in, think lucky, you'll be lucky.

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The first lucky number, 2-0, 20.

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Blind 60, 6-0, 60.

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Two little ducks on the water, 22.

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ALL: Quack, quack!

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The '50s were golden years for the Cunard Line, as post-war austerity blossomed into post-war boom.

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Soon, every nation desired a share of the prestige and the profits.

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In the '50s, Manhattan became a parking lot for the finest liners the world had ever seen -

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the national flag carriers, the ships of state.

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So, there was enormous competition between the great lines

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to see who could have the best ships and the ships that showed the better face of their countries of origin.

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The SS Rotterdam was the first of a new breed of European ships to carry their nation's flag and pride.

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The Holland America lines, succeeded not on speed or size,

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but by designing a dual-purpose ship that was at least a decade ahead of its time.

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The watchwords at the time were size and speed.

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You were either the biggest or you were the fastest.

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The Dutch said, no, that era is over

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and what they planned was a smaller ship,

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by today's standards a very small ship, although in her day she was in the top 10, but only just.

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And she wasn't particularly fast, she was designed to do the trip from Rotterdam to New York,

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I think in seven or eight days,

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rather than the four and a half to five from Southampton that Cunard were doing.

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The Dutch alone seemed to see the future.

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A future where the liner crossing had less importance and the real profits lay in cruising.

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With the Rotterdam, the Dutch had re-cast the role of the liner,

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but everyone else continued playing yesterday's game.

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The Italians dressed their national colours on the sleek Michelangelo and her companion, the Raffaello.

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Bold and beautiful ships designed for a new Italian Renaissance.

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The Italian line was very proud to represent the best of post-war Italian design.

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The top architects were commissioned to design the ships -

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and they had a wonderful mix of minimalism with Italian flamboyance.

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But more than any other nation, it was de Gaulle's France

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that wished to recreate the pre-war glory of its ocean liners.

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All French hopes were placed in one showpiece ship called simply, the France.

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The longest in the world by just four feet.

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It was a ship for the rich and the fashionable in their bijou apartment suites.

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2000 passengers pampered by over 1200 crew.

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The French Line ships were legendary.

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It was said more seagulls followed French Line ships than

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of any other company, hoping to catch delectable bits of haute cuisine thrown out from the galley.

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I think this was terrifically important to France,

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the country itself, its culture, its design values,

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its engineering, were there to be seen.

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Very much, the France was very much

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a national flag carrier in that truest sense of a ship of state.

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She was very, very much a statement of France afloat.

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Originally they were going to build two fairly modestly-sized liners,

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but during the de Gaulle era,

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there really was the need for some great nationalist, prestigious project.

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And he chose the building of a great new liner

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which became the SS France, which entered service in 1962.

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FRENCH COMMENTARY

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But even as these bold, new ships enjoyed their maiden voyages, dark clouds appeared overhead.

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Jet aircraft started to cross the Atlantic non-stop in hours rather than days.

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The jet age was a body blow for the Atlantic liner companies.

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At first they didn't know how to respond.

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They'd been coining money during the 1950s,

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suddenly just over a decade later, passenger numbers were dropping off.

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I think what's sometimes forgotten in those early days of airline travel, it was extremely expensive.

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What happened was, the early airliners were taking out the first class passengers

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and it was the first class passengers, essentially, who were paying the profits.

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# Volare, oh, oh... #

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Even in the late 1960s, Cunard were attempting to operate a year-round Transatlantic service.

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And certainly in the latter years of their life, the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth,

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sailing in the middle of winter would sail with more crew members than they had passengers on board.

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Chic travel had moved to the skies.

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A new term was coined, the jet set for a group of the rich

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and famous who lived La Dolce Vita in New York, London, Paris or Rome.

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The whole imagery of air travel began to dominate the culture.

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So liners began to look increasingly dowdy, no matter how modern the ships themselves were.

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That was a real problem. Suddenly, young boys wanted to be airline pilots

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rather than work on ships, for example, because that whole culture was the fashionable thing.

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Although the Transatlantic lines enjoy the prestige,

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the other great sea routes were where most of the money was made.

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The routes to Australia and New Zealand were popular, lucrative

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and effectively out of reach of long-range jets for the next decade.

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From the early '60s onwards, the premier ship on the six week route to Australia was P&O's Canberra.

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The Peninsular and Orient Line had great success serving these long-distance passengers.

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Longer routes such as the routes from the UK to South Africa

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and the route down to Australia were still viable.

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Now, these ships were still liners in the true sense,

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but they were quite different from the Atlantic liners because they had to travel further distances

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before refuelling and they also carried, invariably, a lot more cargo than the Transatlantic ships.

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Liners went all over the world, just as airlines today.

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And looking at this from a British perspective, throughout the whole period of the Empire,

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the way civil servants and visitors and friends and families travelled around the world was by liner.

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So whilst the Transatlantic routes had the prestige, it had the famous liners,

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they were in the minority, most liners weren't on the transatlantic route.

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Some of the most popular liners featured the lavender-coloured hulls and black and red funnels

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of the Union Castle Line.

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Ships that ran a scheduled service on the South Atlantic routes to South Africa.

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Union Castle, it ran like clockwork, literally.

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It was always said that when the Union Castle vessel blew her parting whistle at,

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I think was a 4pm on a Thursday, Southampton could set their watch by it.

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A purserette on the Edinburgh Castle during the '60s was Ann Haynes.

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Welcome to my bureau, my little office of Union Castle treasures.

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Pictures, various items of happiness and memorabilia in here.

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And of course, one of my favourite items is...

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my curtain.

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A lovely gift from a friend in South Africa, but he and his wife only gave me the one curtain,

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but isn't it lovely with all of the various Union Castle ships on it.

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Another treasure I like...

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is an advertising item from the 1960s.

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If I want to say I'm leaving on the Edinburgh Castle on a particular Friday,

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I can put the Edinburgh Castle against the day of the week for Southampton

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and then discover where the rest of the fleet are.

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It was an exciting adventure on a liner and we were on a voyage,

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going from point A, to point B, C and D and back again.

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The true liner voyage, I think.

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The cargo was varied.

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I've got records showing that things like heifers,

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cows and horses and lots of animals were carried on deck.

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Locomotives, railway locomotives were carried, all sorts of things.

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Wool from South Africa came to the UK and one of the cargoes, of course,

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was gold bullion which came from South Africa.

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I didn't know about this for a long time,

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just shows how secret it was. I didn't know about things like that.

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I was told if I could lift one, I could have one.

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You probably know how heavy they are, so of course I couldn't lift one.

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A favourite ritual on the Union Castle Line was celebrating the crossing of the equator.

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One of the ceremonies that took part on the Union Castle ships was crossing the line.

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It was very much look forward to.

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So there would be King Neptune, his queen who was usually a male,

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with things in strategic places and weird and wonderful costumes.

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There would be a policeman in a little tiny policeman's hat.

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All the victims for the crossing of the line ceremonies were volunteers.

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They knew they were going to get covered in revolting-looking things.

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You have transgressed and upset the King!

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King Neptune asked you to come here and account for your sins.

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Put in a chair and put on a table, but everybody got a certificate

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with their name on, signed by King Neptune and the date.

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Lovely certificates.

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Ann sailed her last voyage on the Edinburgh Castle in 1967.

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For her, an era had passed.

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The late '60s were also pivotal years in the lives of the transatlantic ships.

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First the jumbo jet and then Concorde captured most of the passengers

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who would have travelled by ship a decade earlier.

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The final blow is the onset of the 747.

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When flying becomes a mass market and pretty well everybody who could have afforded to cross the Atlantic

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on a liner can afford to cross the Atlantic on an airliner.

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And then the liner becomes an anachronism.

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It is the end of that era.

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No passenger line could escape the new economic reality.

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Cunard had two ageing ships in the Queens, Mary and Elizabeth.

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Ships designed in the '30s for a world now gone.

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They were old-fashioned and expensive to run.

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The much-loved Queen Mary bowed out in style in a long, valedictory voyage to her new home

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in Long Beach, California.

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The Queen Mary was out at sea for 31 years, she is here in Long Beach now for 42 years.

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So, she has become

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a part of Long Beach history longer than she was out at sea.

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She is literally responsible for putting Long Beach on the map as a convention town.

0:27:280:27:33

If you say, Long Beach anywhere in the world, people say Queen Mary.

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It you say Queen Mary anywhere in the world, people say Long Beach.

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She has had good days and bad days, money has been spent to try and keep her up.

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She is still a very, very fine representation of one of the old ships of state.

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ARCHIVE: On the quayside, even an American-style celebration

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is dwarfed by the huge bulk of the old lady herself.

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The final commanding captain of the Queen Mary, Captain John Treasure Jones.

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As the very last captain serving with Cunard of the Queen Mary you brought her here.

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What sort of experience did you find that last voyage?

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I found the last of voyage a thrilling experience in many ways.

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Because I knew I was bringing the ship on an adventurous voyage,

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if you like, round Cape Horn to a home where I felt she would be appreciated and

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become the jewel of the port of Long Beach and the centre of the harbour.

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So I didn't feel bad about it, in fact I was delighted to bring her here.

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From time to time during rough weather,

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the Queen Mary would rock and she would roll!

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And she would rock and she would roll!

0:28:520:28:55

And if the passengers became seasick, looked a bit green

0:28:550:29:01

about the face, they could look into the peach plate mirrors,

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see a healthy complexion

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and hopefully feel just a wee bit better!

0:29:130:29:19

The Queen Elizabeth was always considered the Mary's dowdy sister.

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She was the unsung partner in the famous double act.

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Elizabeth was an altogether more modern ship than the Queen Mary.

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She had benefited from at least a decade's design development.

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On board, however,

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there is a bit of a paradox because the Queen Elizabeth was

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actually slightly more conservative in her design than the Queen Mary.

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She didn't have the Queen Mary's...

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cult following, to put it in a modern parlance.

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She didn't quite hit it with the punters in the same way.

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Compared with Queen Mary, she was less warm, less comforting.

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The Queen Elizabeth, she was sold to a Chinese businessman, CY Tung.

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He decided to buy the ship and rebuild her as a floating university.

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His idea was to sail the ship on long cruises with passengers and students.

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The ship was undergoing a huge rebuilding programme whilst anchoring at Hong Kong and towards the end

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of that process in January 1972, the ship suddenly caught fire.

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The final death throes of this once great ship were reported by Blue Peter's Valerie Singleton.

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'Soon, the whole ship was alight and despite all the efforts of

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'the Hong Kong Fire Brigade, it became obvious the liner was doomed.

0:30:470:30:52

'For five days and nights she blazed and television viewers

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'all over the world were appalled by these pictures.'

0:30:560:30:58

She caught fire in several places at once, so it's assumed it was the work of arsonists.

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And, as with the Normandy in New York during the war,

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so much water was poured onto the ship to put out the fire that it made the ship unstable

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and so she rolled over and sank and was subsequently scrapped.

0:31:160:31:20

It takes a long time to cut up and carry away 83,500 tons of ocean liner.

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But every day she gets just a little bit smaller and soon even this rusting hulk will disappear.

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It's rumoured the salvage is being sold across the border to mainland China.

0:31:330:31:38

It's odd to think that the imperial grandeur of RMS Queen Elizabeth

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will end her days as scrap in communist China.

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This is the Blue Peter annual from 1972, which I received as a youngster for Christmas that year.

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If we open up, one of the articles here is about the Queen Elizabeth,

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Queen of the seas.

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And the very last paragraph reads,

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"It was a sad moment for everybody who loves great ships.

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"The Queen Elizabeth was the last of a great age,

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a super liner and nothing like her will ever be built again".

0:32:100:32:14

It just so happened at the time we were learning to write letters of complaint at school

0:32:140:32:20

and my English teacher, Miss Bootle, she said the most important letter you can learn to write

0:32:200:32:26

is a letter of complaint.

0:32:260:32:27

So I wrote for my homework, a letter of complaint to Blue Peter saying when I grew up I wanted

0:32:270:32:35

to design and build a new ship that would rival Queen Elizabeth.

0:32:350:32:39

So, I sent it into Blue Peter and lo and behold I received, by return,

0:32:390:32:45

the blue Blue Peter badge.

0:32:450:32:48

I was rather upset that they didn't give me a gold badge, I must say, I was rather precocious.

0:32:480:32:55

Cunard had the confidence to commission a new ship

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to replace the retired Queens, Mary and Elizabeth.

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Like the Rotterdam, she would be dual purpose, a liner and a cruise ship.

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I name this ship, Queen Elizabeth the Second.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The Queen Elizabeth 2, or QE2 as she is commonly known,

0:33:180:33:21

became the flagship of the Cunard line for nearly 40 years.

0:33:210:33:26

From 1969 to 2008, she was the most famous British liner of the modern age.

0:33:260:33:31

Sleek and spacious, she was built to take Cunard into a new era.

0:33:310:33:36

The big difference physically between the liner and

0:33:360:33:39

the cruise ship is that the line has to be significantly stronger

0:33:390:33:43

than the cruise ship, because it has to be able to be driven hard through bad weather.

0:33:430:33:48

The bow of a liner is much finer, much more like an arrow

0:33:480:33:52

and again it's to push its way through that rough weather.

0:33:520:33:57

All those things combined amount to about a 40% increase in the price of the ship.

0:33:570:34:03

So if you build a cruise ship and a liner of the same size, the liner would probably cost you about

0:34:030:34:09

40% more and that's a big premium to pay to call your ship a liner.

0:34:090:34:15

The QE2 really, in many ways was the bridge between Transatlantic

0:34:150:34:21

liners of the traditional kind and modern day cruise ships.

0:34:210:34:25

She was potentially able to operate as a two class ship,

0:34:250:34:29

equally as a one class ship.

0:34:290:34:31

She had all the facilities one would expect of a modern cruise ship.

0:34:310:34:35

She was like a modern hotel on board, her design was extremely progressive.

0:34:350:34:41

She was rather jet age and also in many ways, space age,

0:34:410:34:46

both in her external design and internal outfitting.

0:34:460:34:50

There were 50 luxury suites, and 300 deluxe cabins.

0:34:550:34:58

The QE2 was much more a floating hotel than a means of transport.

0:34:580:35:03

The new ship attracted a visit from Blue Peter.

0:35:050:35:09

PETER PURVES: 'After a fabulous lunch, I changed my clothes to go to the engine room

0:35:090:35:13

'as I thought it would be very dirty,

0:35:130:35:15

'but it looked more like Mission Control at Cape Kennedy than on board a liner.

0:35:150:35:19

'There were dials, meters, switches, knobs by the dozen, each one controlling or

0:35:190:35:23

'metering some part of the engine, so a constant check could be made by the control room's computer.'

0:35:230:35:28

'On the bridge I met the captain of the QE2.'

0:35:310:35:34

-Good afternoon, Captain Warwick, John Noakes of Blue Peter.

-How do you do?

0:35:340:35:38

The QE2 also had the unique distinction of being

0:35:380:35:40

the only Cunard liner to be captained by both father and son.

0:35:400:35:44

A huge great wheel, a relic from the past also.

0:35:440:35:48

The wheel was right on top of the rudder.

0:35:480:35:50

I first stepped aboard the QE2

0:35:500:35:53

to visit my father when it was at Kingston, Jamaica on a cruise.

0:35:530:35:59

This was the very first time I'd been aboard the ship

0:35:590:36:01

and I just couldn't believe what I saw, a fantastic modern ship and

0:36:010:36:05

it left me with the burning ambition to be captain of it one day.

0:36:050:36:10

And I achieved my goal in 1990 when I was appointed Relief Master.

0:36:100:36:15

But for the Dutch, the Americans and the French, the Atlantic game was up.

0:36:200:36:25

In 1969, the Rotterdam with her advanced design moved exclusively

0:36:250:36:29

into cruising and was a sought after ship for the next 30 years.

0:36:290:36:34

But there was no escape for the gas-guzzling United States,

0:36:340:36:38

brute economics sank her as a going concern.

0:36:380:36:41

Losing 3 million a year, she was taken away for a refit and never returned to passenger service.

0:36:410:36:48

The sudden loss of America's rocket ship left her devoted passengers high and dry.

0:36:520:36:59

There are always some people who would always go by ship.

0:36:590:37:03

I still get letters from people asking whether or not they can

0:37:030:37:07

travel as a passenger, even in these container ships we are operating.

0:37:070:37:11

They still want to run in a ship,

0:37:110:37:13

but as far as operating a passenger ship the size of the United States,

0:37:130:37:18

I rather doubt whether we could even assemble a crew.

0:37:180:37:23

The type of crew we had to operate that ship again, because

0:37:230:37:27

a lot of these people have retired,

0:37:270:37:30

a lot of them have died off and a lot of them have gone elsewhere.

0:37:300:37:33

I don't think she'll ever go to sea.

0:37:330:37:36

At one point she was towed across to Turkey to have her asbestos removed.

0:37:360:37:41

Of course, being an American ship

0:37:410:37:43

she was absolutely stuffed with asbestos for fireproofing reasons.

0:37:430:37:47

The job was done, but the owners couldn't pay,

0:37:470:37:51

so in lieu of money, they paid by allowing the scrappers to take her life boats away

0:37:510:37:57

which were made of aluminium and the davits.

0:37:570:38:00

So the remains of the United States, the gutted shell was towed back

0:38:000:38:06

across the Atlantic and she now lies as a hulk in Philadelphia.

0:38:060:38:10

Finally, even the world's longest ship, the France, the ultimate symbol of national pride would fall.

0:38:120:38:19

In 1974, with her 10 million subsidy removed by the French government,

0:38:190:38:25

her owners were forced to concede that her days on the Atlantic run over.

0:38:250:38:29

France was laid up in Le Havre, her home port for several years

0:38:290:38:34

before she was bought by Norwegian Caribbean Lines.

0:38:340:38:38

They had her rebuilt as the SS Norway.

0:38:380:38:43

She was a very successful cruise ship for many years in a modified

0:38:430:38:49

form and has only recently been finally retired and sent for scrap.

0:38:490:38:54

As the France, this ship was the last of the ocean greyhounds.

0:38:540:38:57

Built for speed and to dash across the North Atlantic in competition with other great liners.

0:38:570:39:03

But in these days of rising oil prices, it's a recipe for economic disaster.

0:39:030:39:07

Perhaps the most curious fate of all befell the France's predecessor, the Ile de France.

0:39:090:39:13

The Ile de France was a very significant ship

0:39:150:39:18

in that she was the first,

0:39:180:39:21

effectively the first passenger ship to introduce the new Art Deco style.

0:39:210:39:27

She continued in service until

0:39:270:39:30

the late 1950s when she was sold for scrap to Japanese firm in Osaka.

0:39:300:39:36

But, it was the early days of the disaster movies and before they scrapped her,

0:39:360:39:43

the Japanese hired her out to an American film studio who were making a film called, The Last Voyage.

0:39:430:39:50

ARCHIVE: 1500 carefree passengers, happily unaware of a note to the captain.

0:39:540:39:59

They sent the ship out to sea

0:39:590:40:02

and created various explosions inside and on the open decks,

0:40:020:40:07

sent the forward funnel crashing down onto the bridge.

0:40:070:40:11

All realistic and I think the film won Oscars for the special effects

0:40:110:40:16

because they weren't made up, they were actually real.

0:40:160:40:20

You could see this great ship being destroyed for the purposes of the film.

0:40:200:40:24

Hold it, the piano's gonna fall!

0:40:310:40:33

CRASHING

0:40:330:40:35

EXPLOSION AND SCREAMS

0:40:440:40:46

Help!

0:40:460:40:48

Poor Dorothy Malone, the star of the film, spends about three quarters of the film up to her neck in water.

0:40:480:40:54

It's very difficult to give a good acting performance under those circumstances, I should've thought.

0:40:540:40:59

TRAILER: Never before has the screen flamed with adventure and suspense so real.

0:40:590:41:05

Every dramatic moment was filmed at fever pitch, entirely aboard the world's most glamorous luxury liner.

0:41:050:41:10

Hurry it up, for God's sake!

0:41:100:41:12

I can't hold her out of the water much longer.

0:41:120:41:15

-The telephone cord!

-SHE SCREAMS

0:41:210:41:23

She was then partially sunk for the finale of the film.

0:41:280:41:32

The French were absolutely scandalised by the use of the Ile de France in this film,

0:41:340:41:40

and they ensured that all references to Ile de France were very carefully erased.

0:41:400:41:45

In fact in the film, the ship is given the name Claridon.

0:41:450:41:49

I think that she was so much a ship of the movie age,

0:41:490:41:53

so many famous film stars had travelled on her,

0:41:540:41:58

her decor was so much before the war,

0:41:580:42:01

so much Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers,

0:42:010:42:05

that maybe that was a suitable final role for this great ship,

0:42:050:42:11

a starring role in a big-budget movie.

0:42:110:42:15

Not all liners met such a dramatic end.

0:42:150:42:18

Most were adapted for the expanding cruising market.

0:42:180:42:21

In 1981, Robert Robinson took a slow boat to Madeira.

0:42:240:42:29

The ship was the former liner, the Canberra.

0:42:290:42:32

It was now supposedly a one class ship, but reminders of the old days weren't hard to find.

0:42:320:42:37

Where some passengers had every convenience, some had very few.

0:42:370:42:42

Did you know you were in for this? I mean you're four strangers.

0:42:420:42:46

Can you switch the radio off please?

0:42:470:42:49

You knew in for this kind of chummery?

0:42:520:42:55

It's economics.

0:42:550:42:57

A single cabin would have cost another £200 extra.

0:42:590:43:02

But I wanted the company.

0:43:020:43:04

I like the company and this is where you get it.

0:43:040:43:07

It was company I was after.

0:43:070:43:09

Perhaps this situation wasn't quite the company I was looking forward to.

0:43:090:43:12

Fairly early on in the cruise,

0:43:120:43:15

people tend to split into two fairly well demarcated groups.

0:43:150:43:20

The people in the cheaper cabins, the old Second Class,

0:43:200:43:23

tend to congregate at the Alice Springs at lunchtime.

0:43:230:43:26

The Alice Springs is the casual bar where people sit in shirtsleeves

0:43:260:43:29

and the old classic Blackpool in the braces syndrome.

0:43:290:43:32

# I want to play a little game with you

0:43:320:43:37

# A little game that should be made for two... #

0:43:370:43:40

There are the people who live up in the front end of the ship,

0:43:400:43:44

the old First Class, the days of the Raj still sort of lives on up there.

0:43:440:43:49

ROBERT ROBINSON: As it were at the top end, the Commodore hosts a cocktail party on his private deck.

0:43:500:43:56

I wouldn't hear a word against it.

0:43:560:43:59

I honestly wouldn't. It's straightforward and I don't think you'd get better value for money.

0:43:590:44:05

'While at the other end, it's pub night.'

0:44:050:44:07

-So the Irishman walks in...

-LAUGHTER

0:44:070:44:11

Big Paddy walks in, he says, "Paddy, there's a cabbage and potato a knife, which is the odd one out?"

0:44:110:44:16

Paddy says, "Jaysus, sir, I reckon it's the cabbage..."

0:44:160:44:20

At the Commodore's party, one of the guest remembers what cruising was like in the '20s.

0:44:200:44:25

They made their own amusements.

0:44:250:44:27

Appointed a sports committee when they had the first day out,

0:44:270:44:33

helped by the senior officers on board.

0:44:330:44:38

# Go Johnny, Go

0:44:380:44:40

Go, go, Johnny Johnny be good. #

0:44:400:44:44

The following year, the Falklands War created new roles for the QE2 and Canberra.

0:44:520:44:57

MILITARY PIPING MUSIC PLAYS

0:44:570:45:00

Like their predecessors in the Second World War, these welded

0:45:000:45:04

leviathans were the only realistic means of transporting an army over long distances in all seas at speed.

0:45:040:45:11

They are ready to fight if they have to, but we, in the government,

0:45:120:45:15

will do our very, very best to see that that is not necessary.

0:45:150:45:19

But if they have to, I know they'll equip themselves with honour.

0:45:190:45:22

How do you feel now as the ship is sailing away?

0:45:220:45:24

I think I'll be quite tearful in a few moments, actually.

0:45:240:45:28

-What about you?

-Just about the same, very tearful.

0:45:280:45:31

As long as they come back safely, that's the main thing.

0:45:310:45:34

It took the QE2 to just 16 days to reach the South Atlantic.

0:45:420:45:46

These grand ladies could lift up their skirts when they had to.

0:45:460:45:49

The QE2 was kept at arm's length from the Argentinians.

0:45:520:45:56

The Canberra was sent into San Carlos Water, in the thick of the action.

0:45:560:46:00

She received a heroine's welcome on the return to her home port of Southampton.

0:46:000:46:05

By the 1980s, the new cruise ships looked very different from the classic ocean liners of the past.

0:46:070:46:13

Whereas as traditional liners had their ladies' retiring rooms and

0:46:190:46:24

smoking rooms, and all kinds of spaces for sitting and relaxing,

0:46:240:46:28

the modern cruise ship is built around revenue-earning spaces like bars, casinos and shops.

0:46:280:46:36

The new purpose-built ships were designed in that way.

0:46:360:46:39

It was only in the 1970s when cruising came for the mass market.

0:46:410:46:44

That's when various new operators started, like Royal Caribbean Line,

0:46:440:46:50

Carnival Cruise Lines, Norwegian Cruise Line.

0:46:500:46:54

They brought in specialist ships that were very successful, high-density ships,

0:46:540:47:02

that really supported the mass market.

0:47:020:47:05

# The Love Boat... #

0:47:050:47:08

This new-world was soon attracting drama treatment in the hit television series The Love Boat.

0:47:150:47:20

Its glossy take on cruising helped to make floating holidays even more mainstream.

0:47:200:47:26

The Love Boat, with its mixture of romance and comedy,

0:47:260:47:29

changed middle-America's perception of what went on in cruise ships.

0:47:290:47:32

It generated a huge boom in affordable cruising in the USA.

0:47:380:47:43

The Love Boat herself was the Pacific Princess, operated by a British company, P&O.

0:47:430:47:48

Here they come, out of starting gate.

0:47:480:47:50

This hit the imagination of the American public, so that people

0:47:530:47:59

maybe in middle-America who had never dreamed, maybe never seen the sea,

0:47:590:48:03

suddenly realised that cruising was not for the toffs, it could be fun.

0:48:030:48:08

There was always a hint of romance, drama, whatever.

0:48:080:48:13

The Love Boat really put mass-market cruising on the map.

0:48:130:48:17

One can never underestimate the power of television.

0:48:170:48:20

Television was making cruising seem accessible.

0:48:230:48:26

Travel programmes were quick to democratise its packaged glamour.

0:48:260:48:30

'Parting can be such sweet sorrow, but not for long on a ship like this,

0:48:300:48:34

'where you'll soon find plenty of shallow water to drop anchor again.'

0:48:340:48:38

The last thing you need in this heat is more heat!

0:48:380:48:42

'Good job then there are so many pools like this on board.

0:48:430:48:46

'Naturally, a lot of activities are arranged around the pools.

0:48:510:48:54

'I found there was still enough space to enjoy your own privacy if you so desired.

0:48:540:48:58

'For those that have been before, what's the appeal of a cruising holiday?'

0:48:580:49:03

If you get on a beach and you get covered in sand, you get covered in

0:49:030:49:06

people, here, your room and shower are just a few yards away,

0:49:060:49:10

the bar stewards are passing by every couple of yards, every couple of minutes...

0:49:100:49:15

The pool is there to dive into.

0:49:150:49:17

It's very easy.

0:49:170:49:19

Thank you very much. They tend to do things in style on cruise ships.

0:49:190:49:22

This is not a meal, it's a drink - a blue Caribbean.

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Normally, you'd have to carry around two wallet loads of money to pay for it.

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Like everything else on board, you simply pay for it with a credit card.

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Over the last four decades or so, the cruise market has changed very much.

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Cruise ships have changed very much.

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Most of them are much bigger now, they've much better facilities.

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People now very often demand that they should have a balcony outside their cabin.

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Also, cruising has become, in real terms, very much cheaper than it was.

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How about coming into my room?

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This is it. That's the shower room and toilet in there.

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You get a fridge, two single beds, there's a television.

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You get a telephone and you can actually phone home from the boat.

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This particular room has a balcony, which of course costs extra.

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It's independently air-conditioned and I'm sure as ship's cabins go, it's quite spacious.

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If you have any ideas about bringing the sort of trunks that you see in the movies, well, I'd think twice.

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The cruise ship was not a means to transport its passengers, it was now a destination in its own right.

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A destination with no revenue stream untapped.

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Drinks cost extra, and make Carnival money.

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They've found a way to sell as many as possible.

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My salary is very small, about 48 a month.

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Then you get 15% of all your sales.

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If you don't run, you don't make money.

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That's the way it is.

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Passenger numbers soared,

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by the turn of the century, two important milestones had been passed.

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Miami, with easy access to the Caribbean, became the largest passenger port in the world.

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And for the first time, the largest passenger vessel afloat wasn't a liner, but a cruise ship.

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Cruising is now very big business.

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In the course of events, they've gobbled up

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a lot of the smaller companies.

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Well, I say smaller.

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For example, Carnival has taken over Cunard.

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One thinks of Cunard as being a big company, but in today's world it was a mere minnow.

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More berths at sea at the moment, as we speak were people are sleeping on

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cruise ships on the oceans than ever there were back in the liner era.

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And in an ironic twist, an old enemy was now a new best friend.

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It's strange to consider that the cruise industry today really

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does rely on the aeroplane bringing in vast numbers of passengers

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from all around the United States,

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to the ports of Miami and Fort Lauderdale, New York, and the other areas.

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Whereas jet airliners had been disastrous for the liner trades,

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they were actually very advantageous for the cruise ship companies

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because jet aircraft can fly passengers straight to

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sunny departure ports like Miami in shiploads.

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In 2008, the two great liners that had pioneered the transition

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to cruise ships sailed to their final resting places.

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First, the port of Rotterdam in the Netherlands saw her most famous ship come home.

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Against all expectations,

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and much to my delight, the one ship that was saved from

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the '60s era of transatlantic ships of course is the SS Rotterdam.

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Back in her home port, the port of her birth, back in Rotterdam.

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This ship was just too beautiful to see off to a scrap yard.

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So, Rotterdam has finally, after many misadventures,

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has finally found her way back to the port of Rotterdam.

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There were amazing scenes on 4th August 2008.

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I feel so lucky to have been there.

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The port was heaving, immense numbers of people turned out!

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A huge flotilla accompanied her in.

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To be part of it was one of the most extraordinary experiences of my life.

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The day that the Rotterdam came back

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into our port was a celebration that gives you goose bumps.

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It was as if a lost child was welcomed home again.

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You can't describe that feeling, that one didn't think about,

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but when one saw the emotions of the people here in Rotterdam.

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So proud, and so tearful almost,

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seeing her back into port, knowing she was going to stay this time.

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400 work men are racing against time

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to open the ship as a museum and hotel in the summer of 2009.

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When restored, all the Rotterdam's period features including the famous Odyssey murals by the Dutch artist,

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Nico Nagler, will help preserve the legend that is the Rotterdam for future generations.

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Also in 2008, the QE2, once Cunard's flagship,

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and for a decade part of the Carnival empire, bowed to the inevitable.

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After nearly 40 years on the oceans of the world,

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she was sent off in style to drop anchor in her new home of Dubai.

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The idea is that her heritage, all the artefacts on board,

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will be on display to show future generations just what a great ship the Queen Elizabeth 2 was.

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But the story of the ocean liner is not quite over.

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In 2004, a new queen was launched, the Queen Mary 2.

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Once again, a Cunard ship is the largest, longest and fastest passenger ship afloat.

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The dream of the small boy who wrote to Blue Peter...

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My brief from my management was simple, I had to design a ship

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that could be constructed in the modern era,

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using modern materials and modern methods,

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that would be able to do the Transatlantic route, and that would

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make the same return on investment as if we'd spent the money on building cruise ships for cruise service.

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The Queen Mary 2 is an attempt by Cunard to recapture

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what they want to promote as being the golden age of liner travel.

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Her hull is absolutely that of a liner.

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The naval architect Stephen Payne, who designed it, is a very brilliant man.

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In designing that vessel, he actually had to look back to ships from the 1960s, to find

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the inspiration for a hull form that would be able to sail across the Atlantic quickly all year round.

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Up top however, the QM2 is most definitely a cruise ship.

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This is a ship that's a high-tech, super modern ship,

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dressed in historic fancy clothes.

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One of the things they're selling is the heritage.

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Although there are now largely American-owned,

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they still want to give a rather British atmosphere.

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To think something as amazing as this was inspired by Blue Peter!

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Steve, I see that you've got a nice nautical tie-pin.

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I'd never be without it.

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I've something even better than that which I hope you'll never be without.

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-Wow!

-Yes, it's our highest accolade, a gold Blue Peter badge.

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-I'm going to pin it on you.

-Wow, that's marvellous!

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I bet you didn't think you'd get this as a young child.

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-I certainly didn't.

-Congratulations.

-Thank you, very much indeed.

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Ladies, gentlemen, boys and girls.

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Have a fantastic day on board the Queen Mary, and thank you

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-for coming on board.

-APPLAUSE

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# Gonna make a sentimental journey

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# To renew old memories...

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# Got my bag, got my reservation

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# Spent each dime I could afford

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# Like a child in wild anticipation

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# I long to hear that "all aboard". #

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