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In the '80s, a new generation of women came of age. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
Inspired by their dreams and ambitions, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
they would help revolutionise Wales. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Women were saying, "We're going out to work, we're going to earn | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
"the money and we're going to have a say in what we do with our lives." | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
In the '80s when I struggled with business, to be honest, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
the learning curve was more like a line, straight up. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
It was like I was learning so much every day. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
It empowered me, it enabled me and it gave me the courage | 0:00:34 | 0:00:40 | |
to act on my convictions, that's what the '80s did for me. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
This is the extraordinary story of a decade that saw the emergence | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
and empowerment of the New Woman. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
SYNTHESISER MUSIC PLAYS | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
MUSIC: Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
In 1980s Wales, women looked to the future in a society | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
with greater individual choice than ever before. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Their growing sense of independence meant | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
they wanted much more from life than their mothers. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
Whether married or not, if a woman wanted a career, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
she soon hit the glass ceiling in a male-dominated world. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
# Sweet dreams are made of this | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
# Who am I to disagree? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
# I travel the world... # | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Even in the music industry, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
there were few women who made it to the top. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
But one of the most successful of the 1980s was our very own Bonnie Tyler. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
# Cos we'll never be wrong | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
# Together we can take it to the end of the line | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
# Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
# All of the time | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
# I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
# We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
# I really need you tonight | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
# Forever's going to start tonight...# | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
I always loved music. Music was in our family. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
My mother was an incredible singer. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
She was an opera singer but she was so shy. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
There was no way that she would, you know... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
She'd face the wall if she sang. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
My mother always used to say to me when I was younger, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
"Believe in yourself and do it | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
"because no-one else is going to do it for you." | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
And I think I probably wanted more out of life than | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
a lot of people in my mother's era, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
wanted children, a family. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
I wanted a career, you know? | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
# I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
# He's got to strong and he's got to be fast | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
# And he's got to be fresh from the fight | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
# I need a hero. # | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The powerful ballads of Bonnie Tyler provided | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
a soundtrack for the life of the new woman and her independent spirit. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
After she married, Joy King worked as a barmaid in Swansea. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
I personally liked going to work. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
It got me out the house. You met people. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
I could buy my own clothes, my own perfume, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
my make-up, my shoes. Whatever I wanted, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
I could go and buy because I had worked for it | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
and that gave you a sense of independence and a bit of confidence, really. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
The pub trade was very kind to me, very good to me. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
You were really partying. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
You were being paid to party. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
It's just there was a bar between you, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
and we had wonderful times. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
You had theme nights. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
You know, we had French night and fancy dress | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
and Halloween. Any excuse for a party, it was there. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
MUSIC: Girls Just Want To Have Fun by Cindi Lauper | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Women were exploring new ways of expressing their identity. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
# And girls, they wanna have fun | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Oh, girls just wanna have fun... # | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Power dressing and big hair became the fashion style that | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
defined the decade. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
In the '80s, it was massive big shoulders, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
with the massive big curly hair. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Everybody thought I had a perm and that I caused the ozone | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
layer with the lacquer, you know? But my hair was never permed. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
It was always kept shaggy | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
and then it was loads of, you know, stiff gel | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
and I used to scrunch it and I used to make it as big as possible, you know? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
I used to love wearing the big padded leather jackets. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
It made me feel powerful | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
and you felt you can compete with the boys. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
# Rosa had a lover on the shady side of town | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
# Tito, he was king of the streets... # | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Wearing the right clothes | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
instantly boosted women's confidence and authority. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Now they felt a match for any man, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
and they avidly followed the icons of the style. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
You had Joan Collins and Dynasty. Oh, we all loved it. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
And every garment you bought had shoulder pads. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
You'd buy a top and it had shoulder pads, you'd buy a jacket and it had shoulder pads. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
And I loved every moment of it. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
I'd go to work dressed in a suit and a jacket. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Everybody did, and it was just absolutely wonderful. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Lady Diana then, she brought in the frilly blouse | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
and the tux look and the black trousers. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Oh, well, that was it. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
I went out and bought the black trousers, the tux. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Up until then, you see, we'd always worn skirts. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Well, I felt I was the height of sophistication | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
in this pie frill blouse. And Lady Di had a bow tie. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
And I think clothes made a statement. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
And, for me, if I looked good, then I felt good. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
And it gave me confidence. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
# Just a little divine intervention... # | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
For the summer, I have a few silk dresses, which, again, are classics. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
And they...they have to wear... we have to look after them. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Margaret Thatcher, the first female prime minister, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
was another woman known for her power dressing. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Though divisive, she was an inspiration for many women, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
especially those in business, like Marianne Pettifore. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
I was very impressed with Maggie Thatcher. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Not necessarily her politics, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
I can't say I agreed with everything, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
but I definitely thought, if she could run a country, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
then why can't I run my own business? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Maggie Thatcher had assertive skills. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
She was not afraid to get up there and say what she thought | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and I knew I needed to do that. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
If I was going to run my own business, I needed those skills. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
I can remember the Chamber of Commerce meeting, the very first one | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
I went to and, you know, there were just two women in there, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
another one came later so that made four of us | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
and about 80 men. It was quite daunting. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Well, if I just sort of briefly explain to you... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
In the '80s, women were starting to get jobs undreamt of | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
by their mothers' generation. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Everything from selling computers to director of a training company. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
Erm, you could have answered the telephone, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
"Good morning or good afternoon", instead of "Hello". | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
They were exciting times for women with ambition. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Absolutely. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
In 1984, Sarla Langdon and her husband, Keith, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
took on running a free advertising newspaper in Swansea. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
She used her skill as a writer to attract new customers - | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
small companies who needed to advertise their businesses. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
What I'd do is, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
I'd go to do the story on them. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
The advertising people would have sold the advertising and then | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I'd say we'll give them editorial, because we need to help these guys. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
These are the guys who are our tomorrow, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
so, cos I took an interest in them and wrote a story about them, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
the bond was created straight away. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I did something nice for them. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Sarla Langdon saw an opportunity to advance her career | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
as a marketing advisor and help local businesses at the same time. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
I got to know what department | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
of the Welsh government could help them | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
and I started making the links between the funders | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
and advisors and businesses. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I started introducing them, so I was making sure | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
they got to the right people. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Some of the businesses Sarla helped were run by women. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
She understood the pressures they were under, especially the mothers. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
If you could get back to me on that one. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
MUSIC: Breakout by Swing Out Sister | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
# When explanations make no sense | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
# When every answer's wrong... # | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
We were taught, with all these pressures of domestic life, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
having to do everything yourself, look after children yourself, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
create a home and a household yourself, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
how do you have the time or the ability or the inclination | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
to also start business? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Hats off. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
These are some of the most courageous women you will ever meet. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
# The time has come to make or break | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
# Move on, don't hesitate | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
# Breakout | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
# Don't stop to ask... # | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
But, at the beginning of the '80s, many Welsh women | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
were still full-time housewives, with children to look after, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
especially in the mining communities of the Valleys, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
where few jobs were available to women. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
CHILDREN PLAY | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Sian James married her coal miner husband, Martin, when she was 16. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
We grew up in a community | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
where there was a very traditional role for women. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
My biggest challenge of the day was my brass, the cleanest brass. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Were my nets white and straight and ironed? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
And were the children going to school dressed immaculately? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
It was how other women judged you. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Those were the things that the other women | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
in your community judged you on. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
There was some women in the Valleys, though, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
with other worries on their mind. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
By 1980, the Cold War had reached a critical point. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
NATO was fast developing a response to Soviet deployment | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
of new nuclear missiles aimed at Europe. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
In June 1980, the government announced | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
that 100 American cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
were to be based at RAF Greenham Common. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
CND activists were outraged and took to the streets. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
Sue Lamb was a member of Rhonda CND. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
I couldn't lie to my children about something as fundamental as that, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
because I knew we were being threatened. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
That, if cruise missiles came into this country, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
then we were being put at increased risk. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
The women of Porth CND decided to stage a week-long demonstration | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
in their own community. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
Sue Lamb and her three sisters were at the centre of events. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
We wanted to set up a camp in our own town, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
to advertise to the people locally, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
to bypass the newspapers, to bypass the television | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
and just get straight to the people. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
So we went down and chained ourselves up, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and it was amazing | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
the amount of people that encouraged us and supported us. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The women's peace camp at Greenham Common was started in 1981 | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
by a Welsh group who had walked from Cardiff - | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Women for Life on Earth. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
The aim was to stop the deployment of cruise missiles there. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
MUSIC: Over and Over Again | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
# For the peace that they seek | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
# Over and over again. # | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
A year later, Sue and 13 other women at the camp | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
decided to take their direct action a stage further. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
On the night of 27th August, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
they cut through the perimeter fence and occupied a sentry box. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
It was going in and occupying that sentry box. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
That was the big step, because you knew, when you were doing that, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
that we were really putting everything on the line. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
The group of women were arrested and later jailed for two weeks, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
but, for them, it was worth it. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
We opened up people's consciousness. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
We created a mass movement. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
I mean, we became part of what was a burgeoning movement, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
but we accelerated that. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
When we went to prison, we actually went to prison in November 1982. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
Now, one of the most famous episodes in the history of Greenham | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
is the embrace the base. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
That was the key kick publicity that motivated people. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
On 12th December, 30,000 women came to Greenham Common | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
in response to a chain letter, calling on them to embrace the base. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
They linked arms as they surrounded the entire nine miles | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
of perimeter fence. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
When the women held hands, we really felt, you know, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
that the power of that could bring down that fence. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
Being a part of it, I actually felt as if, you know, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
it's like Jericho - bring down the walls. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Despite the women's protest, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
cruise missiles were sited at Greenham Common, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but were removed several years later, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
when the Cold War ended. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
THEY SHOUT | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Just as Greenham politicised the many women involved, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
so too did the miners' strike of 1984. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
SHOUTING | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
You make sure you get that on the news tonight! | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
With no wages coming in, families of striking miners | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
found themselves on the breadline, struggling to survive. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Instinctively, wives, mothers and daughters came together | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
to form support groups. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
For that year, we were truly a community that was working | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
outside of the norms of society. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
We created our own alternative welfare state. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
4, 6, 8... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
But there should be 7 or 8. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
I can't see for looking. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Yeah, I'm just saying, if they get a lump sum, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
they don't get social security, you can't spend it on luxuries... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Often, discussions turned into debates about politics and feminism. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
For many women from the Valleys, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
this was a life-changing experience, made even more so | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
when they travelled to other parts of Britain to promote the strike. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
THEY SING | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
'You could see our awareness as women and about our own rights.' | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
They were growing and by now we were meeting women from Greenham Common. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
We were meeting feminists from other, you know... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
lesbian and gay women. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
We were meeting people who were active | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
within different trade unions, so we were being exposed to lots of | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
different feminist ideas. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
All of this was happening, you know. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
There were all these different strands of our lives changing. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
So you were a mother, you were a wife, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
you were a political activist, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
you were a fundraiser, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
you were a debater. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
And we had this one massive thing in common - | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
we all hated Margaret Thatcher. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
We detested her with a passion. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
# And you'll never | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
# Walk alone | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
# You'll never | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
# Walk alone. # | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
The strike turned out to be a long test of endurance | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
for the mining communities. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
By early 1985, it was clear that the strike was coming to an end | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
and the miners would not be the victors. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Those in debt were desperate to get back to work and normality, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
but there were some women in the Valleys with mixed feelings. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
For Sian James, there was no going back to being a housewife. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
I was afraid that I would be pushed back into that ordinary life | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
that I had been quite happy with, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
but I knew I could never be happy with in the future. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I was really afraid about that. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
I'd been exposed to all these new ideas, new friends, new experiences | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
and I just couldn't, at that point, see how I could continue it. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
I changed as a person, you know? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
I knew that there were different things that I could do, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
that I had skills that could be useful, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
or that my opinion was just as important | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
as other people's opinions. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Many of the younger generation of mothers across Wales | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
were rejecting the male dominance of family life. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
The opportunities they saw were very different to the traditional role | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
of mam with children and a working husband to support. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
Some even saw marriage itself as an obstacle to their ambitions. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
In the early '80s, Michele Ryan was a budding film-maker in Cardiff. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
I was a single parent. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
It was me and my son | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
and I was just starting to embrace working in the media, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
because I'd been an independent film-maker | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and, as a woman, I had seen the impact of not having much power | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
amongst my parent's generation. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
I was a single parent, because I didn't want to get married. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
So, for me, I felt like I had a degree of freedom | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
and responsibility and control over my life... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
..which meant that I could... | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I could do things in the way I wanted to. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
In 1985, Michele Ryan was working | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
with the women's film group in Pontypridd. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
They called themselves Red Flannel and named their first film Mam. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
It was a history of women in Wales. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
There's hardly ever any history of women on screen. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
Women had contributed to the Valleys, to the history of Wales | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
and where did you find it? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
We could hardly find anything when we decided to do Mam. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
We had to make it ourselves. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
We had to put those women on screen, because nobody had talked to them. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
It was all female crew. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
This was a film made by women, about women. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
We spent nearly a year recording women's voices | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
from the Valleys, from the mining valleys. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
In the first instance, when we went, they would sort of say, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
"Oh, no. You need to interview my dad, or my husband, or my brother." | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
You know? "Cos I just... | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
"Well, I'm just a housewife". | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
And, of course, they had amazing stories to tell. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Mam also included women's stories in the 1980s. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
We've got a community centre now, which we never had before, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
you know, somewhere actually to meet. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Women seem to get more isolated than men, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
because men tend to call in the club, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
but a lot of women don't. They've got the children, their young. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
You know, they just don't go anywhere. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Some of the women that appeared in Mam, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
a couple of them lived on this particular estate | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
and they had never gone into the college, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
which was literally 100 yards away from where they lived. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
They'd never gone through the door. It was just too terrifying for them. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
By the end, not only had they gone into the college, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
but they'd started a tenants association, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
so a lot of them found confidence and employment | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
through the work that we did. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Employment for women soared in the '80s, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
but, despite a few innovative schemes, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
childcare provision remained a major problem | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
with those with a family. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Many young mothers wanted work with part-time hours. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
It was an issue women in business understood well. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Marianne Pettifore and her friends | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
started a recruitment agency in Swansea. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
My partner and I, Anne, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
we started a healthcare recruitment company | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
and one of the challenges at the time was | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
a lot of women had children and, therefore, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
could only work certain times. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
And everybody was different, like their husband would come home | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
at five o'clock and they might be able to leave at half past five. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
So we set up a database with all these little quirky arrangements, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
like "only do a Friday afternoon, or I can work only weekends, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
"I can work nights, I can do two hours". | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
And we were able to accommodate that. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
They were mainly women, because it was the caring profession | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
and it was a wonderful feeling to be able to give them work | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
week after week. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
And, as we got busier and took on contracts, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
some of them were in permanent positions and freer contracts | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
and that gave Anne and I a lot of pleasure, you know? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
We felt that was very rewarding in itself. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
MUSIC: Find the Time by Five Star | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
-# So find the time -Find the time... -# | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
In their increasingly hectic lives, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
women were not only finding time for work. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
With money in their pockets, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
they wanted to enjoy a night out with the girls. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
This was in marked contrast to their mothers' generation. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
My generation had seen our mams | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
tied to the kitchen sink. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Erm... | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
my mother would only go out once a week, shopping. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
My mother never went anywhere with my father socially at all. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Many women didn't. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
Women now could come into a pub unaccompanied. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
They could come in on their own and nobody would look at them. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
And now you had women going on girls nights out. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
MUSIC: Greased Lightnin' | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
But, like many women, Joy found going out with her friends | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
caused friction with her husband. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I no longer felt now that I had to seek permission for this | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
or seek permission for that | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
and, now and again, perhaps he would say, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
"You're going out with the girls? Oh, really?" | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
And it didn't always sit very easily. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
You see, a lot of men looked at the way their mums and dads were | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
and you'd get, "My mother would never do that". | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Well, his mother never had the opportunity to do it. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
My mother wouldn't have done that. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
My mother was always there for my father. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
"My mother did this. My mother did that". | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Well, those days were long gone. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
You didn't wear the crossover pinny | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
and Donkey the doorstep anymore. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
There were far more exciting things to do. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
# ..and never brought to mind | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
# Should auld acquaintance be forgot | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
# In days... # | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
As women strived to better their lives, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
there could be consequences for their marriages. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
In the '80s, divorce in Wales was on the increase, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
often an outcome of women's' desire for greater independence. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
MUSIC: Into the Groove by Madonna | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
Marianne Pettifore's ambition to expand her business | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
broke up her marriage. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
I changed and, unfortunately, that had a price. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
You're not quite the person you were before. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
The other thing that was a problem for me was | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
coming home maybe with... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
having a lift with several men, businessmen, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
from a network, who'd say, "I'll drop you off". | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Well, this caused trouble with the partner, my husband. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
You know, it's very difficult to work in a one-gender vacuum. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
You can't just work with women, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
you are going to come into contact with men. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
And, very often, some of these events were quite late | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
in the evening, but I had to have a presence there. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
So, once you start being in all these business networks, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
I'm afraid the home life took a toll | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
and, eventually, my marriage ended. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
And it ended because the woman he married | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
had changed, unfortunately. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
A dedication to her work could affect a woman's life in other ways. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
Late childbirth became increasingly common for women | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
caught up in the pursuit of their career. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
In the late '80s Bonnie Tyler, then 39, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
and her manager husband Robert, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
were drawing breath after her seventh album | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
was not the success they hoped for. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
At that time, it was a quiet-ish time for me | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
and so... | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
We'd always put off having children, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
because it was all so busy, busy, busy. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
And it just felt the right time for us, you know? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
And so we started to try for a baby then, you know? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
We stopped all precautions and... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
and I caught almost straight away. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
It was unbelievable. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
And I was pregnant for only, like, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
three months or something. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
And, unfortunately, it wasn't to be. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Bonnie lost her baby and never conceived again, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
but her faith helped her cope with this personal tragedy. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
It's like God telling me, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
"Yes, you can have children, but it's not for you." | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
You know? And, believe it or not, it helped me immensely. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
In the '80s, men were becoming more sensitive | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
to the needs and aspirations of their wives. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
After Sian James managed to get a place at Swansea University | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
as a mature student to read for a degree in Welsh, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
her husband, Martin, came up with a solution | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
for the care of their children, even though he still worked as a miner. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
This meant that Martin had to basically do three years of nights, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
while I was in university. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Really, the strike, you know, supporting him doing the strike, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
we did that as a family together. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
We sat down and we said, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
"Right, we're in this together, as a family", from day one, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
and I think we saw university as an investment in our future. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
We saw getting a degree and getting a good job at the end of it | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
as a positive thing for our family. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
After graduating, Sian James became involved | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
in women's rights campaigns | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
and later was elected Labour MP for Swansea East. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
By the end of the decade, women across Wales, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
whatever their background, were reaping the benefits | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
of a newfound independence. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Women were saying, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
"We're going out to work, we're going to earn the money | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
"and we're going to have a say in what we do with our lives. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
"And we just want to be equal to men." | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
If success, for you, is bringing up your family, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
then that's success. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
If it's one day a week in a shop, that's success. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
If it's running a huge company, then that's success. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
But we're not all about chasing that corporate dream, you know? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
Women had changed. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:58 | |
The women were getting more confident, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
the women wanted more of a stake. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
And, as much as I hated Margaret Thatcher as a political figure, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
you had to say, look, she was leading a bunch of men, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
why not me? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
We can all do it. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 | |
The '80s gave me | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
a sense of who I was. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
It empowered me. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
It enabled me and it gave me the courage | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
to act on my convictions. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
That's what the '80s did for me. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
And it changed my life, as a result. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
MUSIC: The Power by Snap! | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
The new woman had come of age | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
and she was not going back. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
# I've got the power! # | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Next time, we look at extreme personal challenges | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
in a decade defined by conflict and celebrity. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
# Power! # | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
# I've got the power! # | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 |