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ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS

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In the '80s, a new generation of women came of age.

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Inspired by their dreams and ambitions,

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they would help revolutionise Wales.

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MUSIC CONTINUES

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Women were saying, "We're going out to work, we're going to earn

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"the money and we're going to have a say in what we do with our lives."

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In the '80s when I struggled with business, to be honest,

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the learning curve was more like a line, straight up.

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It was like I was learning so much every day.

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It empowered me, it enabled me and it gave me the courage

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to act on my convictions, that's what the '80s did for me.

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This is the extraordinary story of a decade that saw the emergence

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and empowerment of the New Woman.

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SYNTHESISER MUSIC PLAYS

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MUSIC: Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics

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In 1980s Wales, women looked to the future in a society

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with greater individual choice than ever before.

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Their growing sense of independence meant

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they wanted much more from life than their mothers.

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Whether married or not, if a woman wanted a career,

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she soon hit the glass ceiling in a male-dominated world.

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# Sweet dreams are made of this

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# Who am I to disagree?

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# I travel the world... #

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Even in the music industry,

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there were few women who made it to the top.

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But one of the most successful of the 1980s was our very own Bonnie Tyler.

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# Cos we'll never be wrong

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# Together we can take it to the end of the line

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# Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time

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# All of the time

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# I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark

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# We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks

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# I really need you tonight

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# Forever's going to start tonight...#

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I always loved music. Music was in our family.

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My mother was an incredible singer.

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She was an opera singer but she was so shy.

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There was no way that she would, you know...

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She'd face the wall if she sang.

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My mother always used to say to me when I was younger,

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"Believe in yourself and do it

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"because no-one else is going to do it for you."

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And I think I probably wanted more out of life than

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a lot of people in my mother's era,

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wanted children, a family.

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I wanted a career, you know?

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# I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night

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# He's got to strong and he's got to be fast

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# And he's got to be fresh from the fight

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# I need a hero. #

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The powerful ballads of Bonnie Tyler provided

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a soundtrack for the life of the new woman and her independent spirit.

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After she married, Joy King worked as a barmaid in Swansea.

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I personally liked going to work.

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It got me out the house. You met people.

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I could buy my own clothes, my own perfume,

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my make-up, my shoes. Whatever I wanted,

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I could go and buy because I had worked for it

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and that gave you a sense of independence and a bit of confidence, really.

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The pub trade was very kind to me, very good to me.

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You were really partying.

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You were being paid to party.

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It's just there was a bar between you,

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and we had wonderful times.

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You had theme nights.

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You know, we had French night and fancy dress

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and Halloween. Any excuse for a party, it was there.

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MUSIC: Girls Just Want To Have Fun by Cindi Lauper

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Women were exploring new ways of expressing their identity.

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# And girls, they wanna have fun

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Oh, girls just wanna have fun... #

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Power dressing and big hair became the fashion style that

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defined the decade.

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In the '80s, it was massive big shoulders,

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with the massive big curly hair.

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Everybody thought I had a perm and that I caused the ozone

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layer with the lacquer, you know? But my hair was never permed.

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It was always kept shaggy

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and then it was loads of, you know, stiff gel

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and I used to scrunch it and I used to make it as big as possible, you know?

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I used to love wearing the big padded leather jackets.

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It made me feel powerful

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and you felt you can compete with the boys.

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# Rosa had a lover on the shady side of town

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# Tito, he was king of the streets... #

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Wearing the right clothes

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instantly boosted women's confidence and authority.

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Now they felt a match for any man,

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and they avidly followed the icons of the style.

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You had Joan Collins and Dynasty. Oh, we all loved it.

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And every garment you bought had shoulder pads.

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You'd buy a top and it had shoulder pads, you'd buy a jacket and it had shoulder pads.

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And I loved every moment of it.

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I'd go to work dressed in a suit and a jacket.

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Everybody did, and it was just absolutely wonderful.

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Lady Diana then, she brought in the frilly blouse

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and the tux look and the black trousers.

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Oh, well, that was it.

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I went out and bought the black trousers, the tux.

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Up until then, you see, we'd always worn skirts.

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Well, I felt I was the height of sophistication

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in this pie frill blouse. And Lady Di had a bow tie.

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And I think clothes made a statement.

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And, for me, if I looked good, then I felt good.

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And it gave me confidence.

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# Just a little divine intervention... #

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For the summer, I have a few silk dresses, which, again, are classics.

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And they...they have to wear... we have to look after them.

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Margaret Thatcher, the first female prime minister,

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was another woman known for her power dressing.

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Though divisive, she was an inspiration for many women,

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especially those in business, like Marianne Pettifore.

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I was very impressed with Maggie Thatcher.

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Not necessarily her politics,

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I can't say I agreed with everything,

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but I definitely thought, if she could run a country,

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then why can't I run my own business?

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Maggie Thatcher had assertive skills.

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She was not afraid to get up there and say what she thought

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and I knew I needed to do that.

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If I was going to run my own business, I needed those skills.

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I can remember the Chamber of Commerce meeting, the very first one

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I went to and, you know, there were just two women in there,

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another one came later so that made four of us

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and about 80 men. It was quite daunting.

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Well, if I just sort of briefly explain to you...

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In the '80s, women were starting to get jobs undreamt of

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by their mothers' generation.

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Everything from selling computers to director of a training company.

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Erm, you could have answered the telephone,

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"Good morning or good afternoon", instead of "Hello".

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They were exciting times for women with ambition.

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Absolutely.

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In 1984, Sarla Langdon and her husband, Keith,

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took on running a free advertising newspaper in Swansea.

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She used her skill as a writer to attract new customers -

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small companies who needed to advertise their businesses.

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What I'd do is,

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I'd go to do the story on them.

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The advertising people would have sold the advertising and then

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I'd say we'll give them editorial, because we need to help these guys.

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These are the guys who are our tomorrow,

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so, cos I took an interest in them and wrote a story about them,

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the bond was created straight away.

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I did something nice for them.

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Sarla Langdon saw an opportunity to advance her career

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as a marketing advisor and help local businesses at the same time.

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I got to know what department

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of the Welsh government could help them

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and I started making the links between the funders

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and advisors and businesses.

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I started introducing them, so I was making sure

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they got to the right people.

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Some of the businesses Sarla helped were run by women.

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She understood the pressures they were under, especially the mothers.

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If you could get back to me on that one.

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MUSIC: Breakout by Swing Out Sister

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# When explanations make no sense

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# When every answer's wrong... #

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We were taught, with all these pressures of domestic life,

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having to do everything yourself, look after children yourself,

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create a home and a household yourself,

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how do you have the time or the ability or the inclination

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to also start business?

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Hats off.

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These are some of the most courageous women you will ever meet.

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# The time has come to make or break

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# Move on, don't hesitate

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# Breakout

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# Don't stop to ask... #

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But, at the beginning of the '80s, many Welsh women

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were still full-time housewives, with children to look after,

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especially in the mining communities of the Valleys,

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where few jobs were available to women.

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CHILDREN PLAY

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Sian James married her coal miner husband, Martin, when she was 16.

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We grew up in a community

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where there was a very traditional role for women.

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My biggest challenge of the day was my brass, the cleanest brass.

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Were my nets white and straight and ironed?

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And were the children going to school dressed immaculately?

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It was how other women judged you.

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Those were the things that the other women

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in your community judged you on.

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There was some women in the Valleys, though,

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with other worries on their mind.

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By 1980, the Cold War had reached a critical point.

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NATO was fast developing a response to Soviet deployment

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of new nuclear missiles aimed at Europe.

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In June 1980, the government announced

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that 100 American cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads

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were to be based at RAF Greenham Common.

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CND activists were outraged and took to the streets.

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Sue Lamb was a member of Rhonda CND.

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I couldn't lie to my children about something as fundamental as that,

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because I knew we were being threatened.

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That, if cruise missiles came into this country,

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then we were being put at increased risk.

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The women of Porth CND decided to stage a week-long demonstration

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in their own community.

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Sue Lamb and her three sisters were at the centre of events.

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We wanted to set up a camp in our own town,

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to advertise to the people locally,

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to bypass the newspapers, to bypass the television

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and just get straight to the people.

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So we went down and chained ourselves up,

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and it was amazing

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the amount of people that encouraged us and supported us.

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The women's peace camp at Greenham Common was started in 1981

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by a Welsh group who had walked from Cardiff -

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Women for Life on Earth.

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The aim was to stop the deployment of cruise missiles there.

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MUSIC: Over and Over Again

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# For the peace that they seek

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# Over and over again. #

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A year later, Sue and 13 other women at the camp

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decided to take their direct action a stage further.

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On the night of 27th August,

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they cut through the perimeter fence and occupied a sentry box.

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It was going in and occupying that sentry box.

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That was the big step, because you knew, when you were doing that,

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that we were really putting everything on the line.

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The group of women were arrested and later jailed for two weeks,

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but, for them, it was worth it.

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We opened up people's consciousness.

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We created a mass movement.

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I mean, we became part of what was a burgeoning movement,

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but we accelerated that.

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When we went to prison, we actually went to prison in November 1982.

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Now, one of the most famous episodes in the history of Greenham

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is the embrace the base.

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That was the key kick publicity that motivated people.

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On 12th December, 30,000 women came to Greenham Common

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in response to a chain letter, calling on them to embrace the base.

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They linked arms as they surrounded the entire nine miles

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of perimeter fence.

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When the women held hands, we really felt, you know,

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that the power of that could bring down that fence.

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Being a part of it, I actually felt as if, you know,

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it's like Jericho - bring down the walls.

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Despite the women's protest,

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cruise missiles were sited at Greenham Common,

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but were removed several years later,

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when the Cold War ended.

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THEY SHOUT

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Just as Greenham politicised the many women involved,

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so too did the miners' strike of 1984.

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SHOUTING

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You make sure you get that on the news tonight!

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With no wages coming in, families of striking miners

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found themselves on the breadline, struggling to survive.

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Instinctively, wives, mothers and daughters came together

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to form support groups.

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For that year, we were truly a community that was working

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outside of the norms of society.

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We created our own alternative welfare state.

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4, 6, 8...

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But there should be 7 or 8.

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I can't see for looking.

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Yeah, I'm just saying, if they get a lump sum,

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they don't get social security, you can't spend it on luxuries...

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Often, discussions turned into debates about politics and feminism.

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For many women from the Valleys,

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this was a life-changing experience, made even more so

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when they travelled to other parts of Britain to promote the strike.

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THEY SING

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'You could see our awareness as women and about our own rights.'

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They were growing and by now we were meeting women from Greenham Common.

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We were meeting feminists from other, you know...

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lesbian and gay women.

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We were meeting people who were active

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within different trade unions, so we were being exposed to lots of

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different feminist ideas.

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All of this was happening, you know.

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There were all these different strands of our lives changing.

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So you were a mother, you were a wife,

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you were a political activist,

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you were a fundraiser,

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you were a debater.

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And we had this one massive thing in common -

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we all hated Margaret Thatcher.

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We detested her with a passion.

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# And you'll never

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# Walk alone

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# You'll never

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# Walk alone. #

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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The strike turned out to be a long test of endurance

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for the mining communities.

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By early 1985, it was clear that the strike was coming to an end

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and the miners would not be the victors.

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Those in debt were desperate to get back to work and normality,

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but there were some women in the Valleys with mixed feelings.

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For Sian James, there was no going back to being a housewife.

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I was afraid that I would be pushed back into that ordinary life

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that I had been quite happy with,

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but I knew I could never be happy with in the future.

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I was really afraid about that.

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I'd been exposed to all these new ideas, new friends, new experiences

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and I just couldn't, at that point, see how I could continue it.

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I changed as a person, you know?

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I knew that there were different things that I could do,

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that I had skills that could be useful,

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or that my opinion was just as important

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as other people's opinions.

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Many of the younger generation of mothers across Wales

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were rejecting the male dominance of family life.

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The opportunities they saw were very different to the traditional role

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of mam with children and a working husband to support.

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Some even saw marriage itself as an obstacle to their ambitions.

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In the early '80s, Michele Ryan was a budding film-maker in Cardiff.

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I was a single parent.

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It was me and my son

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and I was just starting to embrace working in the media,

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because I'd been an independent film-maker

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and, as a woman, I had seen the impact of not having much power

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amongst my parent's generation.

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I was a single parent, because I didn't want to get married.

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So, for me, I felt like I had a degree of freedom

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and responsibility and control over my life...

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..which meant that I could...

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I could do things in the way I wanted to.

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In 1985, Michele Ryan was working

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with the women's film group in Pontypridd.

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They called themselves Red Flannel and named their first film Mam.

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It was a history of women in Wales.

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There's hardly ever any history of women on screen.

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Women had contributed to the Valleys, to the history of Wales

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and where did you find it?

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We could hardly find anything when we decided to do Mam.

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We had to make it ourselves.

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We had to put those women on screen, because nobody had talked to them.

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It was all female crew.

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This was a film made by women, about women.

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We spent nearly a year recording women's voices

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from the Valleys, from the mining valleys.

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In the first instance, when we went, they would sort of say,

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"Oh, no. You need to interview my dad, or my husband, or my brother."

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You know? "Cos I just...

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"Well, I'm just a housewife".

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And, of course, they had amazing stories to tell.

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Mam also included women's stories in the 1980s.

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We've got a community centre now, which we never had before,

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you know, somewhere actually to meet.

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Women seem to get more isolated than men,

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because men tend to call in the club,

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but a lot of women don't. They've got the children, their young.

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You know, they just don't go anywhere.

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Some of the women that appeared in Mam,

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a couple of them lived on this particular estate

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and they had never gone into the college,

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which was literally 100 yards away from where they lived.

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They'd never gone through the door. It was just too terrifying for them.

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By the end, not only had they gone into the college,

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but they'd started a tenants association,

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so a lot of them found confidence and employment

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through the work that we did.

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Employment for women soared in the '80s,

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but, despite a few innovative schemes,

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childcare provision remained a major problem

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with those with a family.

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Many young mothers wanted work with part-time hours.

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It was an issue women in business understood well.

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Marianne Pettifore and her friends

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started a recruitment agency in Swansea.

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My partner and I, Anne,

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we started a healthcare recruitment company

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and one of the challenges at the time was

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a lot of women had children and, therefore,

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could only work certain times.

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And everybody was different, like their husband would come home

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at five o'clock and they might be able to leave at half past five.

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So we set up a database with all these little quirky arrangements,

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like "only do a Friday afternoon, or I can work only weekends,

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"I can work nights, I can do two hours".

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And we were able to accommodate that.

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They were mainly women, because it was the caring profession

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and it was a wonderful feeling to be able to give them work

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week after week.

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And, as we got busier and took on contracts,

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some of them were in permanent positions and freer contracts

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and that gave Anne and I a lot of pleasure, you know?

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We felt that was very rewarding in itself.

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MUSIC: Find the Time by Five Star

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-# So find the time

-Find the time...

-#

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In their increasingly hectic lives,

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women were not only finding time for work.

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With money in their pockets,

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they wanted to enjoy a night out with the girls.

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This was in marked contrast to their mothers' generation.

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My generation had seen our mams

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tied to the kitchen sink.

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Erm...

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my mother would only go out once a week, shopping.

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My mother never went anywhere with my father socially at all.

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Many women didn't.

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Women now could come into a pub unaccompanied.

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They could come in on their own and nobody would look at them.

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And now you had women going on girls nights out.

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MUSIC: Greased Lightnin'

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But, like many women, Joy found going out with her friends

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caused friction with her husband.

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I no longer felt now that I had to seek permission for this

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or seek permission for that

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and, now and again, perhaps he would say,

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"You're going out with the girls? Oh, really?"

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And it didn't always sit very easily.

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You see, a lot of men looked at the way their mums and dads were

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and you'd get, "My mother would never do that".

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Well, his mother never had the opportunity to do it.

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My mother wouldn't have done that.

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My mother was always there for my father.

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"My mother did this. My mother did that".

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Well, those days were long gone.

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You didn't wear the crossover pinny

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and Donkey the doorstep anymore.

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There were far more exciting things to do.

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# ..and never brought to mind

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# Should auld acquaintance be forgot

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# In days... #

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As women strived to better their lives,

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there could be consequences for their marriages.

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In the '80s, divorce in Wales was on the increase,

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often an outcome of women's' desire for greater independence.

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MUSIC: Into the Groove by Madonna

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Marianne Pettifore's ambition to expand her business

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broke up her marriage.

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I changed and, unfortunately, that had a price.

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You're not quite the person you were before.

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The other thing that was a problem for me was

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coming home maybe with...

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having a lift with several men, businessmen,

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from a network, who'd say, "I'll drop you off".

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Well, this caused trouble with the partner, my husband.

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You know, it's very difficult to work in a one-gender vacuum.

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You can't just work with women,

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you are going to come into contact with men.

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And, very often, some of these events were quite late

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in the evening, but I had to have a presence there.

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So, once you start being in all these business networks,

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I'm afraid the home life took a toll

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and, eventually, my marriage ended.

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And it ended because the woman he married

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had changed, unfortunately.

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A dedication to her work could affect a woman's life in other ways.

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Late childbirth became increasingly common for women

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caught up in the pursuit of their career.

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In the late '80s Bonnie Tyler, then 39,

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and her manager husband Robert,

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were drawing breath after her seventh album

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was not the success they hoped for.

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At that time, it was a quiet-ish time for me

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and so...

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We'd always put off having children,

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because it was all so busy, busy, busy.

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And it just felt the right time for us, you know?

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And so we started to try for a baby then, you know?

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We stopped all precautions and...

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and I caught almost straight away.

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It was unbelievable.

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And I was pregnant for only, like,

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three months or something.

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And, unfortunately, it wasn't to be.

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Bonnie lost her baby and never conceived again,

0:25:510:25:55

but her faith helped her cope with this personal tragedy.

0:25:550:25:59

It's like God telling me,

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"Yes, you can have children, but it's not for you."

0:26:010:26:04

You know? And, believe it or not, it helped me immensely.

0:26:040:26:08

In the '80s, men were becoming more sensitive

0:26:130:26:16

to the needs and aspirations of their wives.

0:26:160:26:20

After Sian James managed to get a place at Swansea University

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as a mature student to read for a degree in Welsh,

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her husband, Martin, came up with a solution

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for the care of their children, even though he still worked as a miner.

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This meant that Martin had to basically do three years of nights,

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while I was in university.

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Really, the strike, you know, supporting him doing the strike,

0:26:400:26:43

we did that as a family together.

0:26:430:26:45

We sat down and we said,

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"Right, we're in this together, as a family", from day one,

0:26:460:26:49

and I think we saw university as an investment in our future.

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We saw getting a degree and getting a good job at the end of it

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as a positive thing for our family.

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After graduating, Sian James became involved

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in women's rights campaigns

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and later was elected Labour MP for Swansea East.

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By the end of the decade, women across Wales,

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whatever their background, were reaping the benefits

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of a newfound independence.

0:27:250:27:27

Women were saying,

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"We're going out to work, we're going to earn the money

0:27:300:27:33

"and we're going to have a say in what we do with our lives.

0:27:330:27:36

"And we just want to be equal to men."

0:27:360:27:38

If success, for you, is bringing up your family,

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then that's success.

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If it's one day a week in a shop, that's success.

0:27:450:27:48

If it's running a huge company, then that's success.

0:27:480:27:51

But we're not all about chasing that corporate dream, you know?

0:27:510:27:55

Women had changed.

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The women were getting more confident,

0:27:580:28:00

the women wanted more of a stake.

0:28:000:28:02

And, as much as I hated Margaret Thatcher as a political figure,

0:28:020:28:06

you had to say, look, she was leading a bunch of men,

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why not me?

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We can all do it.

0:28:110:28:12

The '80s gave me

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a sense of who I was.

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It empowered me.

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It enabled me and it gave me the courage

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to act on my convictions.

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That's what the '80s did for me.

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And it changed my life, as a result.

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MUSIC: The Power by Snap!

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The new woman had come of age

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and she was not going back.

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# I've got the power! #

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Next time, we look at extreme personal challenges

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in a decade defined by conflict and celebrity.

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# Power! #

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# I've got the power! #

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